I tweeted this in the heat of the moment.
‘Any other manager would be gone after this’
I deleted it. Weird thing is about 15 people messaged me the same thing. Every single one of them was right.
Mikel Arteta’s fall from grace has been stunning. Only at Arsenal. I can forgive another loss, but not the way he delivered it. The mix of arrogance, stubborn behaviour, and poor delivery was something else.
Xhaka. Willian. Auba. Lacazette. Hector. All in the starting 11. A show of defiance from a manager that ignores history, performance, merit, and behaviour to play his favourites with the biggest contracts… getting punished deservedly by the bums the fans KNEW would fail him? It is NOT unbelievable. It was the easiest script to write. Too obvious to be a plot worth exploring.
I don’t want to bag on Granit, he’s a good guy in the grand scheme of the total bums we have at Arsenal… but he ended Wenger, he ended Emery, and now he’s close to ending Mikel Arteta. Well, at least under normal circumstances he would.
Arsenal weren’t totally shite, let’s be straight on this one. We came out for the second half strong. Granit then moved on the game like deviant that gets off on negative attention, the way he always does, and landed a red card for violent conduct. It wasn’t even retaliation to an attack, it was a reaction to one of his classic slow late tackles.
We went on to lose from there.
It wasn’t a downed tools game, though you might remember it that way. We had 18 shots, 6 on target. That’s a powerful 90 for us in the Premier League (lol). But once again, it was ruined by a senior player that’s been ruining managers for what feels like a decade.
Arteta had choices. He chose not to take them. He wants to die on the same hill as Emery and Wenger. It is clown-like behaviour. It lacks maturity. It is bereft of managerial EQ. It is the move of a suicidal deer actively moving towards the headlights.
He’s not going anywhere though.
I kind of get it as well. How many managers can this group of players down before you start taking action? Problem with this line of defence is Arteta picked the bums despite having better options. He’s trying the same thing we’ve seen 100 times before. An innovator, a man of ideas, principles, and energy… slotting Granit back into his starting 11.
I don’t really read too much into the gossip, but Chris Wheatley reckons Mikel has fallen out with David Luiz. I mean, colour me fucking shocked. I wrote when he signed that he was a player that has downed big managers in the past and as soon as things aren’t going his way, he strops out. You saw it for the City game, he was dropped, then he played like a sulky child. Arteta approved that move. Inexcusable.
Willian, he’s just gassed man. No pace, no hunger… I cannot understand how a whole team of coaches thought £250k a week made sense. It was a sackable decision. What makes it worse is that Arteta can’t admit defeat, it’s December and he’s still flogging an old horse like it has something to give. Couldn’t he just call Petr Cech and ask what he thought of the two Chelsea rejects?
Here’s the thing, bag on Mikel all you want, but any technical director worth his salt would not have allowed those moves. They were traps. Set by a dirty super-agent. Arteta is a capable coach who should not be allowed near transfers. But we let him anyway because we are addicted to making bad decisions.
If the manager isn’t going anywhere, which he’s not, then we need to make changes elsewhere. Ralph Rangnick is without a job at the moment. Is there anyone better in Europe at setting a vision, building infrastructure, and looking after young managers than him? No. There’s not. Arteta should have his power taken. He’s not a rockstar, he’s a talented kid in the garage learning the guitar, someone at Arsenal needs to find him the support he needs and stop shirking the big decision… Edu is not it. Own it.
We’re now at the stage where an incredibly opinionated blogger is looking at another Arsenal wreckage without much of an idea where we go. I don’t even have a bad opinion to give. We are relegation fodder. The fans are out of belief. The squad is a wreck. The manager is out of his depth. No one at Arsenal has the guts or know-how on how to make the project better.
My suggestion? Back to basics. Prioritise hunger, effort, and suitability to the system.
Fans will forgive young kids faster than they’ll forgive the bums. We’ll happily wait 3 years for a better Arsenal if the plan is exciting. We just need to see a proper plan and some action fast.
My worry? No one has the ability to control this mess. It’s really sad and incredibly disappointing to watch on a personal level. This hurts, deeply. 10 years of weak leadership came at us pretty fucking fast, right?
Sorry Pedro, ur guy isn’t cutting it
Top 4
2
Tr4phy
Top ten!
Europa?
Why isn’t he going anywhere though? No sauce, poor judgement, no clear plan, no accountability, what exactly is the argument to keep him on post? He ‘might’ get better? Really?
The thing is, even if Arteta manages somehow to turn this around (and it’s a HUGE if), how good will it really get? Most of us will probably say Arteta Out (and probably rightly so), but for those who think he should stay… I mean, I’m sure he’s not as bad as these results have been, but how GOOD can he get after this? If he turns it around and ends up being only an average manager, rather than a terrible one, is this good enough? What are the chances that he actually, underneath all of this, is an elite,… Read more »
Admit defeat Pedro on this one he surely cannot be allowed to carry on with this farce !
gEnErAtIoNaL CoAcH. Thanks for lying to us Pete. hahah Arteta is such a fraud. If you are crossing the ball from the Wide attacking zone you will not be successful, if that is his new sTraTeGY he’s got to get the players to drive to the by-line and then whip in a low-driven cross. Otherwise, it’s just a waste. crossing for desperation.
I think a lot of us kinda gave up on arteta last night when we saw the lineup.
When things are going wrong you expect to see changes but this is repetition week after week.
Artetas defiance in post match conferences shows he believes the way we play right now is the correct one which is concerning.
The crosses is a strange tactical ploy and watching it the players all run in eachothers way showing theyre unsure what to do.
Dark days these…..
Not much of a manager with sauce now, innit?
Nah. It’s over Peter Peter the Pumkin eater.
It’s so hard to write anything constructive. Most of us zone out because it’s too painful to dwell on . The collective groan when the team was announced would have been enormous if we had gathered together . Vinai knows his neck is on the block and it’s interesting to know how KSE will react to the awful mismanagement. I freely admit I thought Arteta was a very exciting answer to our problems but his teams are sooo poor going forward working the ball out wide incessantly to no effect . We won the Cup and the Shield because Auba… Read more »
“I think a lot of us kinda gave up on arteta last night when we saw the lineup”
Yeh, nicely put. Lots of teams and managers go through these awful spells at some point (maybe not quite as awful as ours has been), but Arteta isn’t learning anything from it. I so wanted him to do well, I wanted to believe everything Pedro said about him, but unfortunately he just looks totally clueless right now. And his interviews afterwards basically saying that he can’t fault the overall performance, we’re dominating the games, etc.. it’s embarrassing.
Any other manager is going to come in and still have the bad attitudes and knackered out players to deal with. I say avoid relegation (maybe narrowly) with the kids. Drop ALL the troublemakers and liabilities, not just ozil. That list starting at the top Xhaka Mustafi Luiz Bellerin Kolasinac Guendouzi Ozil All of these have not performed either in their arsenal career or in the last number of years or have just shown terrible attitudes . They need to be out of chances and sold and replaced or free transferred if necessary in January. Instead of knee jerk replacing… Read more »
Sorry but #ArtetaOut
Relegation?
MA so posed source is nothing more than our of date salad cream, stinks and leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Time to face facts, MA isn’t a good manager! It’s like having AW and UE rolled into one, picks his favourites regardless of form and is tactically nieve. I truly believe will will get related if he stays in the job.
Deflecting blame to Edu but he doesn’t pick the team or discipline the players. After Don Raul left, he overruled Arteta for Partey. Only AFC can manage to break a player so quickly though…..
I blame Arteta and the players for the performances on the pitch and blame the board/KSE for the car crash that is the running of the club. I hope they all lose their fucking jobs!
Let’s not forget this group of players beat MC and CFC in the FA Cup, so they have the ability to play and win. It’s down to poor management the mess we’re in, I really like MA but he’s done. He needs to drop down a division or to for at leat 2 years to lurn his trade. Should of ne er been hired in the first place, all the other managers that were disregarded as eith not good enough or just not liked by the fan base are all above us in the league.
Get Arteta & Edu out ASAP. Bring in Ralf Ragnick as a caretaker manager until the end of the season & then leave him in charge of all football matters from summer 21′.
I’m 100% sure one of Rodgers, Hasenhüttl, Marco Rose, Erik Ten hag, Nagelsmann would be willing to take the job in the summer not the winter. We will not attract any of the sexy names unfortunately.
Doesn’t this whole show prove that scoring goals is more important than prioritising defence? The trouble with good defence is that you only need to leak a few and then not score goals to put nerves throughout the team and suffer on both fronts. This is exactly what’s happened.
We focused on being tight, then got unlucky against Leicester, and then the house of cards starts to fold.
I far preferred watching Wenger’s teams. Yes we were conceding, but you have much more chance if you’re at least scoring too.
He’s really special this Arteta guy.
He is going to buck the trend of managers getting sacked when their team collapses.
He is truly unique this guy.
It’s an all round shit show bit in shit shows at football clubs the managers are always one of the first to go, to get the boot.
This is what happens in football.
“I don’t want to bag on Granit, he’s a good guy in the grand scheme of the total bums we have at Arsenal” What? He has been a disaster since he has come to the club. Its not like this is just a recent development. The guy should never have played for the club again after the Palace incident and once again should never play for the club after last night. “Arsenal weren’t totally shite, let’s be straight on this one.” We were playing Burnley… at home.. christ almighty the bar has been set low. “He’s not going anywhere though.… Read more »
Pedro
Arteta is another indicator of how poor this club is being run.
He is a failed appointment in an overall failed club.
He gets moved on.
GET RID OF VINAI VENKATESHAM HE IS NOT CEO QUALITY & I AM CERTAIN HE WOULD NOT GET A SIMILAR JOB IN THE ENTIRE FOOTBALL LEAGUE!
To be honest, I can’t see Arteta getting another job after this, he is basically Gary Neville part II.
Is not finishing in the bottom four a trophy?
What some of you are missing MA had the chance to even sell some of the dross and HE chose not to.. Yes let that just sink in a minute….. His handling of Ozil whether you like him or not is irrelevant he’s our top earner and has to be involved even with the view of moving him on….that alone is a sackable offence Loaning out players is fine IF you have replacement’s. Coming in……..he didn’t …sackable When you lead your word has to be your bond… not one rule for one,one rule for another.. loss of trust lose the… Read more »
lol there are still fans that think Arteta is good.
He isn’t. He’s out of his depth and drowning.
It’s got to be faced. This is an all round shit show Arteta et al. All of them. None spared.
According to Pedro, ‘Arteta is a capable coach…..’ There, just knew that line would be dropped in somewhere while taking a hammer to the players’ kneecaps.
Again, how did a normally discerning Pedro arrived at that conclusion. Somebody should please let us know becaise Pedro isn’t going to offer ignorant people like me any insight.
“Again, how did a normally discerning Pedro arrived at that conclusion.”
Its funny, for a guy that rallied against the cult of Wenger it has taken just under a year for him to become as fanatical about an ex-player with no managerial experience as people did with a revolutionary manager that won us titles.
The only hope is that Partey will be fully fit in January.
What does Arteta see in Xhaka? Please someone tell me?
Fuck Arteta.
We’re languishing so bad because of his shit decision making.
Fuck anyone who still supports him.
We’re Arsenal FC. Not Arteta FC.
Sure we were slightly outplaying Burnley before the red but not by much. Burnley are proper bottom 3 material and we were really struggling against them. Granit’s red was the get out clause for Mikel but all the problems were still there and bigger teams like the 3 next fixtures will find that out anyway unless Mikel can finally grow a pair and include the young players – ESR, AMN and Balogun going forward.
At least Bellerin and Xhaka cannot play against southampton but Arteta will probably bring Cedric and Cebellos in.
The peerless Arsene Wenger ( whose teams normally trounced Burnley) once said.
****When you give success to stupid people, it makes them more stupid sometimes and not more intelligent****
Thats whats basically happened to Arteta since the cup final.
If Arteta stays till the end of the season, either we relegate or stop shy at 16-17th. Grab whatever tools you have now, its going to be a long long season.
We are in a mess. That has been clear for a very long time and not just in the Arteta era as many who post on here seem to think. The decline and fall of Arsenal started with Dein going behind the backs of the Board and encouraging Kroenke to buy into the club. It was followed by him selling his own shares to Usmanov. The tragedy was complete with the premature death of Fiszman who was not just a shrewd businessman but a passionate Arsenal fan. That left Arsenal in limbo for several years before Kroenke took over not… Read more »
Thanks Pedro, not an easy read as one who really wants Arteta to succeed, but there we have it. The problems go way beyond the manager, that isn’t to say he hasn’t made serious mistakes. If you replace Arteta, someone else has to still deal with, and fail with these players. If you replace Arteta, there is still an owner with no clue and a shit structure above the manager The club is becoming a graveyard for managers, there has been one thing in common throughout of course. The owner might allow money to be spent, and plenty of it,… Read more »
I had so much optimism for Arteta and his big non negotiables ‘Project’. But it has unravelled and he clearly doesn’t know how to turn it around at the moment, he’s left clutching at straws. As soon as I saw the line up last night, I joined in the collective groan from all Arsenal fans everywhere. Of that starting 11; Xhaka – shite Willian – shite Laca – shite Bellerin – shite Auba – no form, no confidence, he is currently lost Elneny – an average water carrier journey man Holding – an average centre half, a squad player at… Read more »
ES
” If as I suspect he is sacked it will be down to the failings of
others”
Wow again I didn’t realise just how special Arteta was.
He completely tanks the team to 15th in the league and has just lost at home to one of the poorest teams in the league and yet he has no responsibility for it at all.
Special guy this man.
How are you guys still deflecting this away from Arteta??
He’s fucked us.
We had a squad capable of hitting top 4. We absolutely did. His “coaching”, man management and instructions are fucking destroying us.
Puel got sacked for being shit. People were even questioning Vardy’s ability as he was playing so badly.
Rodgers comes in and BAM, Vardy goes back to being the absolute terror we know he is.
Auba & the team are going through the same team.
Get this clueless guy out.
People can go on all about the club bla bla bla owner and all that malarkey. Let’s talk facts when it comes to manager and player’s
Xhaka was asked too stay when we could of sold him to Herta? Who’d decision was that?
Who decided to buy Willian?
Who decided to keep Bellerin playing when the man can’t even make a proper throw on?
Who decided to sell Martinez. A much better keeper than Leno?
Who decided to
Same thing*
We’ll get slightly better with some incomings but arteta doesn’t have the coaching ability to make a success of this job , we’ve all seen enough to know what his garbage brand of is on top of his awful ego of playing players out of form especially willian for no other fact than he’s his signing so he must be proven right . Pepe is wildly inconsistent and never worth the money we paid but why arteta keeps playing a garbage William over him even before his ban is negligence . Oh and before Pedro or someone comes leaping to… Read more »
It’s the FA Cup win isn’t it. Fans think that was fucking golden. It wasn’t. It’s a secondary trophy in todays modern football world for the real top teams and Arteta won it by playing underdog football tactics that opponents would suss out sooner rather than later as time went on. His FA Cup win was the baby exam for him. The EPL was the big boys exam for him. He has failed the bog boys exam by a very big margin. No-one is arguing that the club is in a bad mess overall. But this notion that Arteta is… Read more »
Gary
****Just how low can we go????****
(Oh, much lower)
Think Sunderland low.
(Not even scratched the sides of lowness.)
Relegation certainties next season.
I actually think the top 3 in the championship:
Norwich City
Bournemouth
Watford
would beat out rabble, and they certainly have better managers- even though , I aint got a clue who any of them are.
Bertie
“Your Rangnick suggestion is a great idea but Arteta won’t stand for it . He has made a power grab already and it was a terrible decision to let him do it”
That’s a good point. For any manager you either stand your ground or resign: you don’t cede authority and be undermined.
The depressing thing is that means yet another wholesale change of our key executives (manager sacked, Tekdek sacked) and restarting from a blank canvas, which indicates one thing: those at the very top don’t know what they’re doing, yet there’s no prospect of them leaving.
Repeatedly making the same mistakes and the arrogance reeks of Wenger, difference is Wenger used to be good back in the day. Make no mistake, our club is in a death spiral
#ArtetaOut
Pedro, I am sorry but your constant defense of Arteta is unbecoming of you. Yes the players let him down, but Arteta let the club down first. He has created a toxic poisonous atmosphere where players are stressed by his impossible demand. Players have also noticed that his talk of meritocracy, clean slate and we are all in it together is just PR bullshit that bear no resemblance to how he behave internally. His tactics are so 20th century, it makes David Moyes look like peak Klopp. Time to admit that we hired Cruyff but instead of Johan we got… Read more »
We all wanted Arteta to work out, especially Pedro, but we cannot carry on this way.
“He has created a toxic poisonous atmosphere where players are stressed by his impossible demand. Players have also noticed that his talk of meritocracy, clean slate and we are all in it together is just PR bullshit that bear no resemblance to how he behave internally.”
Its as clear as day
Who remembers when
Losing Presidential candidates conceded
Incompetent managers resigned
Mistaken bloggers admitted they made a terrible call
ES I don’t think there’s one poster on here who feels that we are in a mess just because of the Arteta era. My take has always been based on us leaving Highbury and the arrogance of the club in assuming that success was guaranteed because of our values and principles. Those in charge back then arrogantly assumed we were going to be dining at the top table for years to come. Yes, David Dein had a part to play in our fall from grace but Wenger overstayed his welcome by a good 8 years. Our owner is shite and… Read more »
CescAppeal, Marko, and Receding are owed an apology, imo.
Their treatment here was nothing short of deplorable these last 18 months.
There, I said it. CA will never come back.
not one poster
Arteta is hitting a point where he isn’t only damaging our present, but he’s seriously fucking up our future. Xhaka, Laca and Bellerin could all have gone fir good money in the summer and before then. Now we will probably get half of what was being touted. Guendouzi and Saliba will go if Arteta stays. Two players who could have been the future of the team. Martinelli, will mikel stifle him like he has Nelson? Arteta has lost the plot currently and I can’t see how he can pull it back. I’ve said for a while now I think Auba… Read more »
Stroller,
I would settle for a competent manager with a decent short term plan. Right now the house is burning and you are complaining about the curtains.
Long term vision can come next summer with a proper recruitment drive for both players , coaching staff and admin staff.
“Edu is not it.” I agree, mostly because who would have liked to share a job with someone who is supposed to be beneath him??? Only at Arsenal. Pedro .If you think that Rangnick’s job will be to select the starting lineup, strategy and playing pattern, then sorry but that is the manager’s job. Arteta has failed EXTREMELY bad in all paragraphs of his job. You cannot pick a DoF who’ll do the job of a manager. Arteta has shown horrible skills in it. Who in their right mind persists with Xhaka, Lacazette, Willian? He begged these players to stay/come… Read more »
I mean, how lenient can Arsenal be to failures? Look at Dortmund.
If Arteta is not sacked by tonight then the message to the players is – come, park yourself for a couple of years, have fun in London, don’t care about results. There’s no accountability in Arsenal.
Bergkamp63 December 13, 2020 18:37:45 I see it’s 10 v 12 again, I won’t even bother to watch You didn’t need to be a prophet to know what was coming last night, glad I didn’t bother watching. It smacks of arrogance and stubbornness, the last days of Wenger sprang to mind. Arteta should be demoted to head coach and told in no uncertain terms to drop the bums or he gets sacked. He’s a good coach, but a poor manager at this time, his career is on the line unless he has the maturity to admit his failings. I still… Read more »
Edu’s tenure will be the worst Arsenal has seen in 100 years.
What’s this ES, started with Dein? The guy did more for AFC than just about anyone in the modern era. He may have introduced Kroenke as a counter to Abramovich but actually it was your mate Fiszman that sold his shares to Kroenke, not Dein after Fiszman ousted him.
“I think a lot of us kinda gave up on arteta last night when we saw the lineup” Yup. I really wanted him to succeed as an ex player and all and was hoping for a reasonable top 6 pushing the top four challenge this season whist implementing a style of play as well as the further development of our most promising young players. I thought the journey would be bumpy at times but fuck me, it’s as if Joe Willock’s at the steering wheel. I hate the managerial merry go round, but surely Arteta is a dead man dying.… Read more »
PhD2020December 14, 2020 09:40:53 TheLegendaryDB10December 14, 2020 09:10:45 This in SSN from Arteta:“We were on top from the beginning to the moment of the sending off,” Arteta told Sky Sports. “We threw the game away.”He is well and truly deluded. —– No more deluded than Donald Trump still ranting and raving till today that he won the elections.. When to any rational informed human being,knows that he not only lost the popular vote by almost 8 million,but more importantly lost the electorate vote by 306 vs 232. A landslide victory for Biden.Is that not the same number of electorate votes… Read more »
Ishola 70
Arteta is not special.
However, do you seriously believe that the cancer in the club is going to be solved by yet another manager.
Whoever comes in will be saddled with the same problems that have confronted the managers who precedes him. Our squad is not fit for purpose and far too many players are
mediocre and unsaleable.
If you read most posters on Le Grove the bulk of our squad should be offloaded.
I’m not sure how you can defend this shower sh*t against the likes of Burnley?
Incredulous..
Sure our squad needs to be overhauled but it’s a top eight squad at worst, not bottom six. Just about every other half decent manager is able to overhaul a squad without falling so far. The term ‘in transition’ usually means falling off the pace for a bit, not plunging towards the bottom of the table.
Was it Edu that played Willian right after he breached protocol? Was it Edu that sent Saliba to the reserves? Was it Edu that picked Xhaka ahead of AMN? Was it Edu that that kicked out Guendouzi and Torreira to play Xhaka? Was it Edu that pushed an injured Partey back to the pitch? Was it Edu that benched Martinelli? Was it Edu that picked Willian ahead of Pepe? Was it Edu that made this group of players look like relegation fodders? Was it Edu that has shown absolutely horrendous ingame management? Was it Edu that has started the seniors… Read more »
Pedro’s trolling you guys..
He knows what’s up..
lol
ES We all know that the club is in a mess overall but at this point it’s about how hard a manager is going to fail rather than him leading us to the glory land. And Arteta is failing massively at this point. In this instance you have to get in a replacement that is not going to fail as hard as Arteta is at this time. And he’s failing very hard. The overall problems at this club haven’t just started with Arteta’s appontment. We had the same shitty owners when Emery first came to the club. We had the… Read more »
Pedro: “Arteta is a capable coach…” No… he really isn’t!! And there’s nothing to substantiate that small yet highly inaccurate statement above. We just lost to a team who have scored 6 goal this season, AT HOME…. If Arteta keeps his job, AFC as a club is properly dead (but the truth is, AFC has been dead for quite some time) We will get smashed against Southampton, Everton and Chelsea- We literally have no idea where the next GOAL is coming from, much less the next win… Arsenal haven’t been this bad for literally 70 years. Not to sack the… Read more »
gambonNovember 30, 2020 10:13:17
Its over for Arteta.
He’s a scared, overly defensive manager that doesnt have a clue how to set a team up.
gambon said this over two weeks ago. And we are still here.
I believe a new (experienced) manager can make a big difference and get us at least winning games.
You gotta give Vinai & Edu some credit.
They saw the shambles of Gazidis
The disgusting reign of Sanllehi
And seem to have said you thought that was unorganised and shambolic, well watch this space
As a schoolkid back in the dark days of 74-76, I went to tons of matches at Highbury. In those days you bought a ticket at the ground on the day, there were always tickets. Bertie Mee was highly respected but the double team was broken up way too quickly e.g. George Graham to Man U, Charlie George to Derby, Ray Kennedy to Liverpool, Francis McLintock to QPR, Bob Wilson retired etc plus the worst of all Don Howe left to try and make it on his own (he failed). The replacements weren’t good enough – Terry Mancini anybody? BUT… Read more »
andy 1886
Our current squad is not top 8 at worse. On current form we are relegation material.
When a team cannot put the ball in the net it is in serious trouble and that is the problem at
the moment.
EmiratesStroller
Correction: DD brought Kroenke along to INVEST in the Club not OWN it
He wanted a Rights Issue – but Danny & Co wanted to sell up and get out. That’s why DD was fired.
And that’s when the decline of AFC began
I wouldn’t have mind arteta for longer, but what I’m scared of is losing our youngsters, hence why I’m firmly of the belief that he needs to go, but we need to seriously get our ahit in order behind the scenes.
RIP Gerard Houllier
Wasn’t Gambon a Xhaka enabler at some point.
He was obviously oblivious to this Xhaka hill that these managers keep dying on.
If I ever come across this Xhaka hill I’ll take a big turd on it.
In memory of our Granit.
Edu and company sacks Sven Mislintat. He goes back to Stuttgart. Finds them Silas Wamangituka – a diamond from Congo. #diamondeye
ES: “Our squad is not fit for purpose and far too many players are mediocre and unsaleable.”
Only a matter of time we get to hear how Danny Ings, 0 goals, 132 mins in European competitions, is a far more accomplished striker than Aubameyang, 38 goals, 5153 mins in European competitions, multiple Golden boot winner, having scored more than 5x the goals that Ings has scored in best leagues in the world.
How it’s perfectly normal that Southampton are 4th while we are 15th, 10 pts behind them.
Only a matter of time.
Ishola 70
Arteta will be sacked sooner or later. He will take the can for what is going on.
However, his departure changes nothing. We will be saddled with the same squad and problems.
Okay Saliba and Ozil may be registered for first team squad in January, but is that going to be
a game changer?
So much for trying to run a club without a scout
Danny Most definitely kroenke out, I mean, looking at his NFL teams, they are all doing well but he has no clue how to handle a franchise in the EPL. He is listening to all the wrong people and is trying to get to the CL through shortcuts, that’s not going to last. Arsenal needs a serious 3-4 years of rebuild while being a feeder club. Make the club attractive for youngsters to try and make a name for themselves. Like in the Wenger days. Where Wenger failed was to then start getting experienced players in their prime and blood… Read more »
“Okay Saliba and Ozil may be registered for first team squad in January, but is that going to be
a game changer?“
Why not? Because the new manager will not play Xhaka and Bellerin and Willian.
Englandsbest.
You are wrong. Dein misled Kroenke into believing that the Board would sanction sale of club.
That is why he was sacked and left without compensation.
Its unquestionably down to poor player attitude. These players have tanked under 3 managers now. When arteta first came in they pressed hard and put in a shift. That has slowly diminished over the months to pedestrian football now. That doesn’t absolve arteta the blame. He picked the dross and his tactics have gone from power to timid. I guess the reason we are in this place is that it doesn’t appear any manager can turn this around. We were willing to give arteta time but he is nose diving now. Reports of saliba and luiz moaning dont tell the… Read more »
Sorry Pedro I too was very hopeful regarding Arteta. But he simply has to go and sooner the better. Only problem being that we don’t have a football brain in the higher echelons of the club that can pick a good manager. We would be in danger of getting another Emry/Arteta.
Get Ragnick in and have him overhaul the setup from top to bottom. Then go from there.
ES Why shouldn’t Arteta take the blame as well as others? He is failing and failing badly here. If fans want to get serious about getting Kroenke out then all good but that doesn’t mean you plough on with a manager that is clearly out of his depth. We could change owners tomorrow and Arteta would still be out of his depth as Arsenal manager. Arteta is not a victim. He is yet another sign of how poorly this club is being run by being appointed in the first place. tbh he had to be a bit of a delusional… Read more »
Emery had 18 points form 13 games when sacked, Pocchetino had the same, Arteta can get 16 points from 13 games IF we beat Southampton, think that tells a story. Time to go
“However, do you seriously believe that the cancer in the club is going to be solved by yet another manager.” No. But here’s the issue ES. Arsenal are in 15th place in the league midway through December with a -7 goal difference. And we are there not by an unprecedented injury crisis, not by consistent dodgy refereeing and not because we chose to transition with a whole bunch of young players . We’re 15th on merit. Of course it’s not all Arteta’s fault and, as you mentioned, the clubs problems have been running for many years but he’s the manager… Read more »
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Pedro thinks that Arteta is untouchable.
Keeping this charade where
the manager is atrocious, stubborn and clueless,
the technical director is extremely passive and weak,
the players have downed tools and don’t want to play for him
is only going to hurt Arsenal long term.
Appoint someone to clear some of the dross in January.
Arteta’s situation with the players is untenable.
It’s not going to get better and we are sinking deeper and deeper.
Something needs to be done and swiftly.
Stroller Is the key point to our rebuilding, though, for the Tekdek to have a clear medium-term strategy, to aggressively remove the existing dead-wood, and to slowly assemble the pieces to trade up to being a relevant team. At the moment the manager is calling all the shots on personnel decisions, which means all the choices are short-term, because his motivation is just surviving the next year in the job. The whole point on the separation of powers that we called for when Big Weng was autocrat was that if we had the right structure and a competent Tekdek, then… Read more »
And Arteta thinks we’re playing well!?