Well, I threw my toys out of the pram yesterday. Nothing like a Spurs loss to really bring the emotions out. Today, we get back to the mission… which is like, you know, a win or something.
Things aren’t great for Arteta. He can’t hide behind many excuses, though clearly, there are some. I think the theme that has come via the interesting criticism is that the biggest mistake of his tenure thus far has been enablement.
He came into a mess, he knew the stories, but he still backed the bums who always let the managers down.
He also threw his name on the strategy deck of short-term fixes, one he should have recognised was tainted badly by history.
His biggest mistake was to stand by ideas that have failed since 2014.
Is he a bad coach? No.
Is he finished at Arsenal? No.
Can we turn things around? Yes.
The journey was always going to be rough, maybe I didn’t expect it to be this rough, but still… this is a big job that requires more than one man to contribute value if it’s to be completed on time and in full.
Something has to change though, and I think there’s a pretty clear consensus amongst fans, explayers, and pundits on what that needs to be.
HONESTY
The season is more than likely over in the Premier League. We’re not competing for top 4 now. We’re playing for a respectful finish and some improvements in January. Arteta needs to front up about the season and he needs to look to the future. He tempted us with top 4 knowing we were 6 players short of what was needed. That’s quite the porky to tell the fans, now he has to rectify the lie, be honest, and tell us what IS possible. Get it out the way, no bullshit or protecting feelings.
One of the biggest things you learn in management is that it does not matter how likable someone is, if they are shite, they will ALWAYS let you down.
Now, I’m not talking about kids. I’m talking about experienced people that have entrenched behaviours and clear patterns in the way they operate when the pressure is on. Mental weakness never turns to strength. Laziness can shift into a blip of good behaviour, but always, the bad self waits in the wings. Character… well, that is set in stone. It’s even worse if a collection of bad characters form the backbone of a culture at a football club.
That is where Arteta is with this project right now. He thought he had fixed it with his cup win. He was wrong.
He has been burned for enabling. Now he has to draw insights from the wounds, formulate a simple plan forward, then implement it with brute force.
EXPERIENCE
We have spent 7 years watching the club shuffle in ‘experience’ that just doesn’t have what it takes to deliver over the course of a season. The biggest letdowns are the big names. Most of them aren’t on Arteta. They are the responsibility of past managers, CEOs, and sporting directors. Two of them, Auba and Willian are on Arteta, but there is still hope there.
Xhaka, Bellerin, Mustafi, Luiz and Lacazette aren’t cutting it and there needs to be consequences. It’s time to move on them. Make a statement. It’s time to accept that these guys will always, always, always let you down in the end.
Arteta came in like a fireball of logic and pragmatism… he played those that deserved it, dropped those that were shite. So simple. Where did that approach go? How can you soil your own non-negotiables so badly?
It needs to change. The big names need to be treated the same as the smaller names. Bad performances on and off the pitch must have consquences.
THE HALE-ENDERS
On paper, they aren’t up to the level. We know that. However, they work hard, they are all athletes, and on a good day, they make the system look like a system.
Arteta doesn’t like using them because they make mistakes. Well Mikel, so do the senior player that have us sitting in 15th.
AMN is the legs in midfield we don’t have. Reiss Nelson has the power and pace we don’t have out wide and he’s at the very least hungry. Eddie will doggedly press, he surpassed Shearer’s record for the U21s. Maybe ESR could offer more mobility to that #10 role we put Lacazette into. Could Balogun be any less interesting than what we have going on right now? If we like lobbing long balls into the box, Moller just landed player of the month for the U23s. At least he’s big.
If Arteta is honest with the fans, then the Hale-Enders approach is easier to implement. Fans know that we’re shit now. Our season went with Thomas Partey hobbling off. I think we’d all prefer to see the kids have a crack at doing something interesting. At least they’d care. At least they’d improve.
PLAY TO WIN
Arteta needs to do what works with players that give a fuck. He doesn’t need to play Pep-lite football. He doesn’t need to appease our every whim (irony of me listing three ways he can fix the football is not lost on me). He does need to give us footballers that look like they care.
If 4 at the back doesn’t work, then play 3 and ignore the whinging.
If Auba is best out wide, leave him there, the player wasn’t complaining.
If 10 games in a row will make one of the kids ready for the league, let’s do it and enjoy watching a team grow together.
The current approach of rolling out a transition system that the senior players aren’t interested in playing is really, really not clever.
Get back to what worked last season. Hungry players putting on a show even if it was disgusting to watch. A death spiral can be arrested. Miserable players can be brought back to life. You can get a 10 game run out of this squad. This can be better.
We need some magic and a lot of hard work. Let’s see what Mikel has because he’s not going anywhere.
“I think there’s more to this side and manager than we are seeing,”
Any ideas why we are seeing what we are seeing? Why is he putting his worst foot forward, to test our faith?
eb
It means I’ve supported the club for over 30 years and I have a season ticket at Arsenal – do you really think I give a shit about getting one up on Pedro if it’s at the expense of us doing well?
“I think there’s more to this side and manager than we are seeing,
What’s he waiting for?
“I think there’s more to this side and manager than we are seeing,What’s he waiting for?
Your power rankings .
Marc
“It means I’ve supported the club for over 30 years and I have a season ticket at Arsenal – do you really think I give a shit about getting one up on Pedro if it’s at the expense of us doing well? ”
The answer to that would be affirmative
He doesn’t want my power rankings.
Probably 18th this week. Not looking good
NY giants though looked good vs my Seahawks.
Your jets are still bottom
So we have gone from quick interchange passing to fat Sam high balls in the box.
Some coach Arteta, Now in panic mode.
I don’t think he knows how to develop young players , paying big for washed up old farts is a Man City way only they buy younger talent
20 years from now, Arsenal still without another title, we’ll learn from year 2040 Le Grove posters that it was all the fault of Arsene Wenger 30 years earlier when he settled for the 4th spot.
Pierre
Only a person who thinks that way would think someone else would think that way as well.
Trouble with Arteta the standards he has come from will never be met at the Arsenal not with this current set of owners /players and the way the owners have chosen to actually run the club down. The cost cutting exercise within the club was deplorable those people where the Arsenal I have a friend who was sacked who had 30 years service with the club his story like others really hits you of the turmoil within the club over the last few years. Arteta struggles with man management. Although he probably has had to with some of the moody… Read more »
Grasping at straws Pedders. The club is unfortunately riddled with dry rot – if it was a house it would be condemned.
The problems go from the very top all the way to the bottom. There isn’t a single level that’s functioning properly.
It’s been getting worse for the past 10 years. I think only a massive shock such as relegation or a new owner is going to turn things around inside 2-3 years.
When I said we would not finish higher than 7th the le grove blog heaped scorn, derision and mockery on me.
I was seen as overly pessimistic and that we had a pretty high quality squad. I was counter to the universally held view on this blog that we would challenge for 4th.
Well I think this blog owes me a huge apology. I will give you the po / zipcode to post it.
As always london gunner is right
My main issue with areta is making him manager was setting him to fail. Arsenal a club in free fall after years of stagnation and the head coach who is a complete rookie has now been made manager. It didn’t make any sense and shows how shit the club is from top to bottom and reveals the lack of trust/faith in edu to do his job. I think areta as coach only would have been better than this. His decisions as a manager are the ones that have really come back to haunt us. As other playwr shave mentioned extended… Read more »
M Faber ***I would not be surprised if this blog has an inside into Arteta and hence continue to defend this mess. Sad, but vested interests tends to trump the truth.*** Well said. The MSM are parrotting the same nonsense, with regards to Arteta and that he can not and must not be sacked and its YOU /Me & all the ignorant supporters who are in the wrong. Well , I am glad the supporters can see through this BS. In the very unlikely event Arteta gets the next x 100 big footballing decisions right that comes his way –… Read more »
Pedro still doesn’t understand that Arteta had brought us down to fighting to avoid relegation. Massive six-pointer against Burnley coming, which we will not win with Fraudster in charge.
Graham62 Agree with you on this: setting the sight on top 4 rather than first spot was the first sign of Arsenal’s decline. I never took it as Wenger’s decision, but a result of lack of transfer money. Even that might not have mattered had Kroenke footed the annual stadium repayment bill. Anyway, that’s why I don’t rate setting top 4 as a major target. Yeah, I know about the extra money. But a club as big as Arsenal should be aiming to win things, not come second, third or fourth. It defines us as a second-tier club in Pl.… Read more »
Are the supposed younger crop of players at Arsenal going to drive forward a brighter future ? Time after time youngsters that have broken through have bombed indeed for every Fabregas there is two or three flops. I still am far from sure about the likes of AMN , Willock and Eddie. Then you have the likes of Saka, Martinelli and Gabriel. All three are at a level but they now have to push on . Will they be able to take that next step or is what we see now is it and in the case of Martenlli will… Read more »
While watching the Fulham game I had posted about playing with ten behind the ball and struggling to get past the centre line.
The same Fulham game that some consider the high water mark of this season,
I knew from day one.
Arteta reminds me of empty vessels. Slick talker. That’s all.
Terraloon
Chelsea will probably win a minimum of 4 of the next 10 league titles. Huge pool of young, Hungry and talented players there.
They (I do not like saying it) are The London Club now.
We will be competing with West Ham, if we are lucky.
Those who are bugging up Gabriel. Let me tell you he is no saviour.
He is clumsy on the ball. The shine will rub off soon.
“Any ideas why we are seeing what we are seeing? Why is he putting his worst foot forward, to test our faith?”
Like I said Receding it really isn’t looking good man, think next set of league fixtures to New Year will dictate much.
‘Unlike you the local weather vane who literally blows in whichever direction the herd goes’
Meaooow, the claws are out, im willing to bold the earings
For free!
Wengaball
***I knew from day one***
You are bright.
I knew before though (about 2hrs into his reign) when Round was announced and that he never wore an Arsenal Blazer at his opening press conference ( a silly T Shirt) and when he reinstated Luiz in his 1st match at Bournemouth.
Knew all along.From The Off.
It is really sad being completely surpassed by Chelsea as the most relevant London club. And perhaps Spurs as well. On this form and under Arteta I doubt we could beat Crystal Palace truthfully.
The Athletic; “ The xG table: Spurs to fade, Sheff Utd unlucky but Arsenal not in false position” In terms of advanced analytics, the metric that has unquestionably broken through into the mainstream most successfully is the concept of “expected goals”. The xG figure for each game now appears in the statistics listed on Match of the Day, for example. It’s essentially an advanced “shots” figure — rather than counting every shot as “1”, attempts are cross-referenced with historic examples before assigning a value to every shot to express the probability of it resulting in a goal. An open goal… Read more »
As long as the club is run by the three stooges plus dumb and dumber, who is going to fire Arteta? Wishful thinking that things will change. Write off the season and EPL position for European football, but buckle up and hope that the Cup competitions will give Arsenal European football with the three stooges and dumb and dumber running the club. Here is for wishful thinking that things get so bad at Arsenal that the club changes hands. When that happens fan support will increase and we will see the light at the end of the tunnel. Make Arsenal… Read more »
Maybe a relegation dog fight is just what Arsenal Football Club needs.
Why not?
The desire to win should be even greater.
@Mics_
There are 6 clubs in London only Fulham is below Arsenal.
MD-Gunner
There is logic in your argument.
Dissenter
“Arsenal simply aren’t progressing the ball into dangerous areas, and certainly aren’t getting the ball towards their forwards in goalscoring positions.”
Makes the decision to leave Ozil out of the squad look even more ludicrous as that is exactly what he does, feeds the ball into dangerous areas
Our arrogance and snobbery these past 14 years will finally be put to the test.
Burnley will be our first six-pointer of the season.
“The biggest letdowns are the big names. Most of them aren’t on Arteta. They are the responsibility of past managers, CEOs, and sporting directors. Two of them, Auba and Willian are on Arteta, but there is still hope there. Xhaka, Bellerin, Mustafi, Luiz and Lacazette aren’t cutting it and there needs to be consequences.” What a crock of shit. All of them are on Arteta, not just Auba and Willian. Xhaka wanted to leave, Arteta convinced him to stay. Bellerin is playing like crap. Well, Arteta doesn’t have to pick him week in and week out. We have Soares and… Read more »
MD
“Here is for wishful thinking that things get so bad at Arsenal that the club changes hands. When that happens fan support will increase and we will see the light at the end of the tunnel.”
Will that rid Arsenal of the entitled fans that bring embarrassment to the club ….there’s a few on here that’s for sure.
Upstate.
“Arteta had ballz to bin Ozil and Guendouzi but can’t do the same to other underperformers”
We were challenging for champions league prior to the binning of Ozil and Guendouzi so I’m not sure they were the underperformers.
Pierre
Welcome home.
A fit, motivated and inspirational Ozil, I would agree.
Unfortunately, he left the building, in both mind and spirit, long ago.
Ozil just typifies everything that Arsenal became as a club.
Lazy, disinterested, arrogant and lacking in self-awareness.
The guy is a has been.
Remind me again, who’s the “obsessive” again.
One less “again “
Sad to know there isn’t any real light at the end of the tunnel for the club. I’ll gladly eat my words if things turn around but I don’t think it’s going to happen under Arteta. Arsenal really could use a big win, and I don’t just mean in matches. Where’s our £20m signing that explodes in a £100m worldie? Where’s our home grown talent that develops into a captain for club and country? The highly paid star that actually earns their bloated salary? Where’s the smart coaching hire? The forward thinking executive? Almost all the moves made over the… Read more »
Hope you love your wife and kids this much Pierre
Pierre
“We were challenging for champions league prior to the binning of Ozil and Guendouzi so I’m not sure they were the underperformers.”
Under which manager ?
Graham
“Our arrogance and snobbery these past 14 years will finally be put to the test.”
Do you mean the arrogance and snobbery from the entitled fans like yourself who believed ( falsely) that the club were failing.
Look at the league table now and look at the football we are playing now ….that’s failing.
Upstate
100% spot on.
It’s all on Arteta.
Anyone who doesn’t see that, is totally off their rocker.
Oops!! Sorry Pedro.
Beat Everton and Southampton then we talk, not even convincingly, just beat them
Burnley don’t count, fail to win that then i don’t see how he oversees another match to be frank but we already know he will stay either way
Scrap all that
I don’t know what he has to do for some fans to stop saying “i believe in Arteta” a day after every aimless performance
Just argue for him to be given time, that’s fair enough, stop with the belief nonsense, its based on nothing tangible
urnley will be our first six-pointer of the season.
How sad is that
Instead of 6 pointers v top 6 clubs we are relegated to 6 pointers v bottom 6 clubs.
Well done Arteta. Thank you wenger for staying 14 years too long
It’s laughable clowns saying we were heading for relegation under Emery with more than half the season remaining..lol lol
Those very same clowns are now silent when Arsenal are in a much worse situation lol lol
“Entitled”
“Obsessives”
Is this all you have in your armoury?
You have your agenda, which is fair enough,Mobutu all you do is pine for those who brought the club to its knees.
Wenger Mark 2, is culpable for where we are now and to a lesser degree, so is Ozil.
Arteta is not up to the task, that is becoming clear to us all .
Tell me, what’s your take on our “top 4 as success” argument from earlier today. You know, the slippery slope scenario.
Mics
Spurs is the one killing softly, built the stadium skipped the austerity just kicked on with clever sells and reallocating well in the market.
Meanwhile this club enabled Wenger and his slow downward trajectory for a decade talking about FFP, austerity then stock piling assets that gained no value and if they did we didn’t cash in when the writing was on the wall. Then enabled a structure to take hold that literally ate itself with warning signs being sent from those inside who were spit out the back.
Mobutu!!! Shite, should have said but.
Wasn’t he the king of Zaire?
I said 5 games ago if we don’t pick up more than 4 points in the next 5 fixtures then Arteta should be sacked, we’ve picked up 4 points,..bye bye Arteta.
Anyone else notice how things have gone downhill since Ljundberg left….? 🤔.
Arteta now only has his team of cronies around to listen to whilst maybe before with the Swede’s greater knowledge of the team he gave more useful insight and support to the players in the background ☝️
I find Artetz bland lacking any spark and riddled with cliches.
We’re fucked. Spurs will attract players because of superior league position and that Levy has his fingers in the pots all across europe. That’s a double whammy against us. People can criticise some of the Mislintat signings, signings by the way that he wasn’t really known for like experienced older players , he was told he had to get some of these type of players in but as soon as he was ousted from the club with that midget Raul winning in the internal power struggle then we were fucked. Mislintat as clear director of football with his actual football… Read more »
That little cunt Raul.
Pedro
I cant see any other long term plan than what youve been drooling for if we keep going at this rate
We’ll be out of europe, sell off the spine who ‘want to play in europe’ (minus partey of course) and boom funds and youth and plenty of time to train
Sam
Very good point.
No coincidence that things have gone pear shape since Freddie left the building.
Another one to add to the list.
Ishola
I’ll second that, agree. Someone posted the post Arsenal Mislintat interview yesterday. The one nobody paid attention to where he said those running this place knew sweet fa what they were doing.
Behold.
Freddie Ljungberg?
I’m sorry love the guy but it was clear he was in over his head when he was caretaker manager for that short period.
The argument of course is would he have been anyway worse than Arteta. But that shouldn’t be an argument. Both of them were not good enough to be Arsenal manager at this time.
Sal
“I’ll second that, agree. Someone posted the post Arsenal Mislintat interview yesterday. The one nobody paid attention to where he said those running this place knew sweet fa what they were doing.”
We didn’t even see did we what Mislintat could bring in a more senior role. Criminal really.
Those that backed Raul over Mislintat backed the wrong horse.
I’d know what I would rather see at this point. Mislintat the football man, the man who has real footballing links throughout europe overseeing things rather than this amateur set-up we see now.
Fuck you Raul.
Before the TW opens there are 6 games Burnley, Southampton, Everton, Manchester City, Chelsea and Brighton. 18 points are on the table how many will Arsenal get in their present condition? I can see a possible 5. Again the question who is going to show Arteta the door? Can’t see anyone doing that and so we go into the TW with the three stooges and dumb and dumber running the show. Depressing to say the least.
Ish
I stopped talking about Mislintat on here was such a trigger word, in fact wait for it.
Sal
“I stopped talking about Mislintat on here was such a trigger word”
Fans always do that.
Whoever leaves the club is good for nothing.
Whoever remains is the way forward.
Well we saw with the Raul situation unravel at a later date that this was a crock of shit didn’t we.
Pierre
“We were challenging for champions league prior to the binning of Ozil and Guendouzi so I’m not sure they were the underperformers.”
Not sure about that but we’d definitely be better off with both of them in the squad. Torreira too. And Mikhi. Anyone with at least an ounce of creativity would come in handy. But hey, Mikel knows better.
Appreciate the effort today Pedro. Is there evidence that Arteta is a good coach though? Roberto Martinez won the FA Cup with Wigan but was still out the door at Wigan because of being relegated. Before anyone says that they were relegated, they are fucking Wigan and we are Arsenal. Chelsea kicked Di Matteo into touch only months after he won Chelsea the Champions League and FA Cup double. And Chelsea were doing nowhere near as badly the following season as we are. Mourinho was sacked at United after winning the Europa League and League Cup in his first season… Read more »
What a shit storm Arteta’s in, sounds like the Partey injury now 8 weeks.
That gamble paid off well, very poor.
Ishola70, Freddie knew he was not ready, but he was not helped by the fact he had absolutely no staff to work with him. Per the head of the academy was lending an hand. As soon as Arteta arrives, he then banned Freddie to the stand, allegedly to help scout the opposition instead of sitting with him during the games. The one guy who could have given insight into the squad was sidelined so Arteta could bring his team of “bright” assistants. Even if he did not rate Freddie as a coach, Arteta should have lean on him for his… Read more »
Eagle
Chelsea were in 3rd place when Di Matteo was shit canned for not qualifying for knockouts, he’d won 7 of his opening 8 league matches with some scattered results after.
Harsh but can’t argue with it, Rafa came in maintained the 3rd and won the Europe league. We’re undoubtedly in a whole different level of shit.
“Before the TW opens there are 6 games Burnley, Southampton, Everton, Manchester City, Chelsea and Brighton. 18 points are on the table how many will Arsenal get in their present condition?”
Isn’t the City match in the League Cup?
“We didn’t even see did we what Mislintat could bring in a more senior role. Criminal really.”
Players signed whilst Mislintat was head of recruitment:
Miki
Auba
Lich
Mavropanos
Sok
Torreira
Guendozi
Leno
I don’t think I’ve left any off – Only 2 still with us not including loans and they’re Sok who’s just taking up a parking place at the training ground and Leno.
We took the wrong guy from Dortmund because they’re still signing amazing young players.
Sal
It just shows you the vast difference in expectation between Arsenal as a club and Chelsea/Man United.
For far too long now we haven’t been an ambitious club in the least.
Don’t know why Edu doesn’t use his connections to Brazil more often, some amazing talent over there.
Martinelli was plucked from the 4rh division.
Instead of building on that we raid Flamengo, a team full of exciting offensive talent for a CB when we already had 7-8 on the books, oh dear.
Eagle
Yes indeed that is the exact point I was making yesterday on here, we have indulged mediocrity for so long its become reality. From the owners on down, top four is the trophy. The fall has been rapid when put in that context.
Our midfield used to be our forte.
We had Rambo, Wilshere, Theo, Mikhi, Gwen, Ozil, Torreira.
Now suddenly we are weak in midfield after having destroyed the structure.
We used to play Wengerball. quick one touch football and our players were technically trained, now we look one paced. Almost boring.
Arteta may have great ideas and is surely putting in a lot of hard work. But the fect remains that he is a rookie. I’d take Carlo over Sauce always.
Marc You backed the wrong horse. If we never got Aubameyang we would have found ourselves in this position sooner. He has been the player that has delayed this huge mess. Torreira and Guendouzi were interesting progressive signings. That Arteta feels the need to dump them in favour of someone lke Xhaka is his own daft call. Not all these younger signings are going to come off but at least we would have a real identity going on with Mislintat in the more senior role. He was instructed to bring in older players to do a job for a short… Read more »
Weagle
“Don’t know why Edu doesn’t use his connections to Brazil more often, some amazing talent over there.”
His Brazilian connections are agents and the old brigade set of players.
Upstate
I did mean champions league qualification prior to lockdown….
From Athletic XG article:
“There have been 107 Premier League matches this season — and only three results have been fair. In other words, only three matches have finished with a scoreline you would get if you rounded both sides’ xG figure to the nearest whole number.”
Could that not also mean, the XG model is a bit shit?
By the way, we also signed Denis Suarez with Mislintat because he wasnt in charge; he was part of a transfer committee where he could be and often was overruled by Sanheli. Context…
Venga
“Could that not also mean, the XG model is a bit shit?”
It can be a bit of an indicator that is all.
But of course we get people overdoing it’s importance.
I worry about the people compiling the information in the first place to actually put it together.
These are the same mongs who were trying to tell me that Granit Xhaka was a good player with stats.
Same with Denilson, Ish. They can piss right off hahaha
ishola ***That you still argue in favour of a midget vacuum cleaner salesman over a proper footballing man is laughable.*** Ignore Walt- he gets everything wrong. (He is giving Arteta a run for his money, with the amount of mistakes and misjudgements he makes). SwenM – I put in the same category as AW. Both eccentric but genuine soccer people- that want to do the best they can for the clubs they work for. Off course- they make bad signings. But always for the right reasons. As for for the vacuum salesman- any sign of him? Any clubs stupid enough… Read more »
VD
Not only is the XG overrated but also so is the whole modern stats based scouting system.
I would take an opinion of a veteran scout with a proven track record over a stadDNA recommendation any day.
It took me all of three Villa games last season to decide Grealish was the real thing without looking at any of his stats.
It took me twice the time and games to say the same about Jota too…….and I’m not a scout but some schmuck who played a little and watches PL teams every weekend.
Snow kid.. Are u saying Wenger was so good that he decided he wouldnt challenge for the league and decided for top 4 instead..
“Could that not also mean, the XG model is a bit shit?”
Of course it’s absolute rubbish, only reason I mention it is to annoy Pedro.
What’s not nonsense is that we have had two shots on target in each of the last three league games.
Edu needs to find us the next Zico from Brazil.
What a fucking baller he was…..
Profiling Rangnick on BT Sport 2 at the moment.
Honestly, Wenger had clout in the worst of times. He was able to draw talent to our team.
I worry about Arteta and his clout. what is the clout? Fa cup win?
Pep cone boy?
I fear we do not have the sway or pull, other than high wages and living in London.
You do get folks who want that, but they dont come for sporting ambition it seems nowdays
Apart from being hired to be Raul’s sideman what exactly did Arsenal see in Edu?
Ishola
If Sanllehi was bad for us so was Mislintat – Gazidis was the driving force behind the Auba signing Mislintat was only brought in because of their previous connection.
Our entire set up has been piss poor and we need to start getting it right.
The only thing Mislintat is good at is promoting his own legend. If he’s so amazing why did Dortmund take him back?
Simply they didn’t need him. Zorc’s the guy we should have gone for.
There is a rumbling in the media about Allegri looking for a job and he is open to coming to the EPL. Wouldn’t mind him taking the Arsenal job, BUT??? Is there the money for his contract and transfer demands?
Mislintat is doing alright at Stuttgart, helped get them promoted.
@Marc
Looks like Sven is doing an excellent job as Stuttgard’s DofF.
Radio agree,
Mislintat certainly coming out well, overhauling Stuttgart to promotion and currently sitting 8th in the Bundesliga on an upward trajectory looking into Europe. New triumvirate up front all contributing with new had coach hire the first American in league.
“the project” why do so many Arsenal fans sound like they have been let out of a cult on weekend pass. If it’s not fawning, idealist, lefties like Pedro, it’s the Ozil cult.
Neither are helpful to Arsenal, the institution, not its transitory employees.
Things are not ideal at the moment, the man needs time but as others have said, Arteta is more David moyes than Rinus Micels right now. Any plan heay have had is failing and is looking increasingly silly.
Silly hyperbole is actually not helpful to the Arteta cause.
Tell you what, I’d rather have Mislintat than Edu 10000000000%
Wonder what Don Raul’s been up to?
How can you be Arteta’s leading (ONLY) protagonist and title a post ‘Three ways to save the season’ after eleven games? lol
Ishola70
Yep, when you think about it, Torreira and Guendouzi are dumped and GX remains.at the club.
Where’s the logic in that.
There is none,
You couldn’t script it.
Farcical.
Tell me, does anyone on here know what really happened in respect to Guendouzi?
Maybe he just pointed out a few home truths in a slightly petulant manner. As youngsters tend to do on occasions.
You know, along the lines of “Granit is utter shite, why are you favouring him?”
God knows.
“VD
Not only is the XG overrated but also so is the whole modern stats based scouting system.”
Agree. Stats always play catch-up to a good subjective eye.
Marc You and I don’t know what may have occurred if Mislintat had been given a senior role and more influence. At the least you would have expected more of an identity going on with signing younger progressive players. You can scoff at him all you like. He was a respected man across europe and a respected footballing man. We certainly wouldn’t have seen a ridiculous 72m purchase of a player in his mid 20s with one real standout season in France with Mislintat calling the shots. Now we find ourselves in an awful situation at a later time with… Read more »
Graham
Maybe he’s an excellent judge of character and telling Arteta he’s a cunt wasn’t petulance but just insight.