Arteta Enters The Death Spiral®

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It’s hard to know where the bottom is for this squad of players. It’s tough to fathom whether the manager can arrest the decline. You wonder if the exec team has the knowledge to intervene and support. We’ve not seen a run this bad since the 80s. We’re rudderless top to bottom. The process is fucked. We are back to being a banter club.

Arteta is in big trouble. This is going the way of David Moyes at Manchester United. Listening to him insist 44 crosses to nobody was some sort of success for the future was painful listening. If you don’t have a striker like Robin, Ade, or Giroud, why would an entire coaching staff go out of their way to ramp up crosses per game by 11.3 since November (James Benge stat)? Last time we came close to yesterday’s number of crosses we at least had Danny Welbeck to aim for (Leicester 2016).

Steve Round said in one of his Youtube videos that in the end, not winning enough games cost him the United gig. Now we’re following that regime’s legendary path to the bottom… literally.

Cross numbers were the least of our problems yesterday.

Arteta is stubborn. He is trying to will a flawed plan into points. Everyone looked at that starting 11 and worried we lacked legs and character. We gave Willian another game to bomb. We started Granit Xhaka despite his terrible form, his lack of physicality, and the absolute nothingness he offers to the squad. We gave Auba another game. The guy is a disgrace. Arsenal.com shouldn’t have run that interview with him in the week where he looked like he was a hostage on day 57 after being asked to denounce his religion, family, and love for nice things. He is not behaving like a captain. Everyone at Arsenal knows this. If your charismatic leader can barely crack a smile, how are the rest of the squad meant to pick themselves up? Leadership is turning up when things are hard, he’s not doing that right now.

The Thomas Partey decision delighted us. He was really solid for the minutes he played. Then something popped, he rolled off the pitch as a counter-attack started, and Arteta tried to shove him back on. It reminded me of that time Denilson dropped to the floor against United and didn’t smother the ball… except Wenger didn’t run on the pitch to pick the player up and kick him towards goal. If Partey has the same injury, we’re deeply fucked. It’ll take longer, there might be all sorts of complications. We’d have just killed our escape plan. We took a risk on our best player and broke him in the busiest month. Unbelievable banter. The worst of short term decisions. We were always a long shot to beat Spurs away. Now we’re a longshot to beat Burnley next week.

That starting 11 showed that Arteta is not learning his lessons. He saw what athleticism offered to the starting 11 in the week and he ignored it. He continues to opt for senior players that can’t play his system. His system might be fucking magnificent in his head or at City, but if the expensive experienced players he has can’t play it, it’s total shit. We thought we were hiring in a manager that could rearrange a motley squad of players to be better than the sum of its parts… it now looks like we’ve hired someone that is wedded to something he can’t do. At least when we shithoused we were competitive.

Arsenal won’t change the manager. The players will go long before he does, but that might be predicated on Arsenal not being in the relegation zone come the end of the month. We are shite. Our players have a long history of pundits bemoaning their meekness. But Mikel doubled down on them, no one asked him to. He gave out the deals, he extended the stay of execution for about 8 players, and he insisted that the things they do at training was the stuff of top 4 teams. Things went to shit in the first 10 games and he excused it by saying he needed 6 players to get back to the top. GREAT, we needed that actioned in the summer, not now.

Hector Bellerin was leaving. He was convinced by the project. We thought he had changed. Yesterday, he dropped his 6th foul throw of the season. HE IS A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALLER AND HE FOUL THROWS. Let that sink in.

The opening 3 minutes of the game was beyond parody. Lacazette was so slow from kickoff he was clattered as he passed the ball out for a throw. Granit Xhaka’s first instinct when Harry Kane burned him for pace was to rugby tackle. Hector gave possession away from a throw. 3 of our most experienced players dropping amateur moments like that, how can you progress with players doing things like this?

It might start with retiring the season and playing the system with players that can do it, even if it’s not at the ‘technical’ level Arteta wants. At the moment, the principles we set out with look like they’re being soiled every week by senior players that don’t give a fuck. How can Mikel be so ruthless jettisoning the ‘bad’ players to the far reaches of nowhere (right decision), but so accommodating for the absolute bums he rolls out every week?

Here’s an idea he should have adopted this summer. Play the young players instead. Just like Frank Lampard did at Chelsea. The guys that are attached to the club. The guys that want careers beyond current contracts. The kids that have ceilings. If we’d written off this season and binned the idea of yet more short-term fixes, the fans wouldn’t be as angry as they are right now. He promised Willian a Champions League final in 3 years. He can’t even get an accurate cross from the Brazilian.

Can anyone honestly tell me AMN, Reiss, and Eddie could have put in a drossier performance than what we saw against Spurs? I suspect Möller might have been better suited to a system built for Giroud like target practice and he’s never played a first-team game. Would he have bottled challenges? Would he have cowered aerial balls? Would he have been so half-arsed?

Leeds United cause everyone problems because they have a system built to accommodate subpar players. Worse players than we have. Jurgen Klopp said a good gegenpress is better than a number 10. Time to get real, the current players can’t play City football. ‘What can they do?’ is a must-find answer.

That answer should be geared around power, pace, and one-touch passing. We need to get back to the aggressive pressing, it’s shocking that Arteta let it slide like Wenger used to. We need to have actual athletes in the middle of the park. We need to find a modern take on creativity because we’re not getting it with the players we have right now and lobbing the ball into the box will not work without big players who love to rough it with slaggy defenders. If there is a vision of what the football could be, let’s play it, even if it’s only at 80%… because at least we could see where this process could take us.

Cedric has a final ball and he’s fast, I doubt he makes foul throws. Why did we sign him for four years if he can’t play?

AMN marked Mahrez and Traore out of two games. He moves the ball fast, he’s aggressive, he has some flair in his passing. Give him games. Hold him accountable. Make him better.

Reiss Nelson can move. He is fucking rapid. His career depends on making it at Arsenal. Give him minutes because he cannot be worse for the system than a player who complained he didn’t really understand what Arteta wants from him after taking a £250k a week deal.

Would ESR offer as little movement between the lines as Lacazette. Would he give you 4 pass attempts into the penalty box as a #10? Alex was one of our better players and he didn’t do much bar run around with some aggression. There was a moment in the first half when Thomas Partey broke the lines and none of our forwards gave him the movement he needed. Painful viewing.

Auba is droppable. Willian is droppable. Xhaka should be left off the January squad list. If you are not doing it, you should not play.

I know fans think they know best. We mostly don’t. But we do know that a chunk of our players will always let Arsenal down because we’ve been watching the patterns for years. I have said it time and time again, I’d rather watch kids fail who can get better, than watch older players stink out the place because they don’t care.

Arteta was hired as a rookie. We were told to take a chance on his coaching and promise. He should take a chance on players that want to be there. Kicking on with the seniors that have a history of mentally collapsing at every opportunity is unacceptable leadership regardless of how old you are.

Give the Hale-Enders a go. They have a culture, a shared belief, and drive. The understandable mistake Arteta made was being conned by bums, the unforgivable one is continuing with them despite their utter tripe performances.

Ainsley had it right. Get some legs in the setup. Get ‘a little bit of dynamics’ going. Find a way, because that’s the job. The stubborn approach is not yielding results. Big names are taking the piss. It’s time to get a grip. It’s time for shock and awe. It’s time to resuscitate the season because it is about to need an ICU bed, the nurse is revving up the ventilator and we all know that means it’s 50/50 prognosis in the worst of ways.

There are plenty of managers that have turned dire situations around, but most of them have admitted mistakes and made changes. We need that and we need it fast. Arteta looks like he’s unraveling and that’s not good for anyone. Let’s hope the soul searching this week is a little deeper than ‘just do the same thing.’

Fingers crossed.
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Ernest Reed

“You can always count on Untold for an alternative point of view, bless ’em:. Truly shocking article, can’t believe an adult wrote that.“

Why would any sane person ever read anything written by the halfwits that are Untold?

Receding Hairline

“As usual, Emirates stroller is issuing wordy posts about nothing.”

very incoherent stuff too

Emiratesstroller

Bellerin is a wing back and his forte is not in defence. If you are going to play him in the wing back position then you have to have solid and reliable centre backs who will compensate for his defensive weaknesses. Sadly playing Mustafi and in particular Holding alongside him in defence is not a solution. Mustafi is too often out of position and prone to mistakes and Holding is a very basic centre back more suited to Championship level. The situation is not helped by both Willian and Pepe losing too often the ball as we saw yesterday when… Read more »

TR7

I will hold my hands up on getting it horribly wrong on Willian. The guy doesn’t care even one jot about Arsenal, he’s here just to mint money. We should perhaps make it a rule to not sign old pensioners from rival clubs.

Dissenter

The question needs to be asked whether Aouar was the right player to pursue last summer.
I don’t think he would have worked for Arteta, certainly not for the €55 million euros

I don;t trust Arteta’s judgment for transfers.
Partey wasn’t his judgment, the club had been pursuing and talking to his people since the summer of 2019.

Marc

“Arteta should transfer list him, Partey , clearly already wants out of the club.”

Look’s like CG’s off his medication again.

Danny+S

Who’s been disrespekin you Pedro?

Valentin

ES, With all due respect, this is BS of the highest order. The reality is that for whatever reason, Arteta did not fancy Saliba and his coaching staff have used all sort of excuses to justify his omission from both squad lists. The latest being that he is not playing well for the reserve, when anybody who had seen the game in which him and Pablo Mari played would have said the opposite and that out of both CBs Pablo Mari was the one who had a poor game. He was directly responsible for one of the goal conceded. Yet… Read more »

andy1886

Pedro, Marc called it good, I called it sterile. Agreed, Spurs let us have it because they weren’t worried that we’d do anything with it and they were absolutely right.

Marc

That’s a worry me and Malcolm agreeing on something.

Dissenter

Pedro
Remember many of us told you that Partey wasn:t ready
How do you do go from training alone to prevent contact to starting in 72 hours
That’s a classic case of manager-breaks-player.

Marc

I never said our possession stats yesterday were good.

Nothing about us yesterday was good in fact I’d go as far to say that in the entire Gooner universe the only good thing yesterday was the excellent Beef Bourguignon I’d made.

salparadisenyc

Dissenter

You are now talking bullshit for the sake of it, Aouar is precisely the type of signing this club needed. In fact we should of doubled down and gone with two creatives with Ozil being sidelined.

And this notation that Partey is now shit being floated, is ridiculous. Get a grip people.

Ernest Reed

The fact that Spurs scored both goals on the counter and otherwise never really generated anything else, highlights the fact that Arsenal are hopelessly without any offence at all of their own, a direct contradiction of Arteta’s own post game words.

His words absolutely do not match the narrative he presents. Very troubling when you cant even see reality for what it is.

WengerEagle

Expectations are so incredibly low that we have people saying that we were the better team and played well yesterday. We created nothing meanginful over the 90 mins besides a couple of Lacazette half chance headers from the 50+ crosses that we pumped into their box which was our only means of creating anything. And Spurs scored two goals with ease on the counter, 2-0 up at HT. Easy, job done. Shows how far we have fallen as a club. There was a day in the not too distant past that we used to laugh at their lot and celebrate… Read more »

Marc

Dissenter

Even worse is Arteta saying the player was pushing for a start – his actions in coming off scream I shouldn’t have been on the pitch in the first place.

Receding Hairline

‘Hey Thomas, I know you’re now out for 3 months after we rushed you back, but can we talk about how you communicated your injury?’

This truly cracked me up

Dissenter

Valentin’ I agree with you that Saliba will never play a game for the club. He’s done with the deceit of Arteta.
The club spread rumors that he was mentally nit ready because of bereavement but yet Don;t want him to go back to France on loan.
If they really care about his emotional well-being m then why don’t they let him return back to conditions that favor his healing.?
Instead they want him to go to a championship squad; a player who was in the French U-21 set up.

Dissenter

Marc
I don’t understand why Arteta.beating Burnley should earn him a reprieve.

Zacharse

Willian was the only attacker yesterday who exhibited any real threat but that was only in the first half.
Saka was the biggest culprit and laca xhaka and bell right behind him. Saka took the wind out of our sails numerous times. If you are going to play possession ball it isnt gonna work when u have so many individual errorsgoing on. Back to 343 imo

Graham62

The art of successful management is to not show favouritism and to treat everyone in your team on equal merit. Where certain team members are proving to be a liability/weak link in your set up, they must also be dealt with accordingly. Arteta is failing miserably on this score. By trusting in Xhaka, Willian, Bellerin, Leno, he has alienated the others in the squad. I can’t give details on Guendouzi or Torreira but let’s just say it doesn’t add up. Productivity can also be maximised if he shows a ruthlessness when it comes to these obvious weak links in the… Read more »

Receding Hairline

“Andy, ‘good’ is an illusion. We were never in control.”

Exactly Pedro, at no point last night were we in control of the game, From the minute Son scored Spurs had us exactly were they wanted us

Zacharse

Ernest
Have you met mr. mourinho?

Ishola70

Spurs were ultra confident that they could sit back and not concede. Give Arsenal the possession, give them the ball. We don’t care. We will keep them out. If Spurs can keep out a team like Man City by doing exactly the same thing with their attacking options and probing then they aren’t going to be in any worried are they in regards this present Arsenal team. It is pointless to say Arsenal played well. Not when Mourinho pre-game would have sat down and seen his wishes and how he wanted the game to pan out go exactly to plan… Read more »

Ernest Reed

“Expectations are so incredibly low that we have people saying that we were the better team and played well yesterday.”

Arsenal were absolutely not the better team yesterday, WengerEagle. Arteta got schooled by Mourinho, totally schooled. Mourinho came with a plan and Arteta, bless his beard laden face, came with nothing – no answer or response.

More concerning is Arteta is so immersed into himself that he completely missed the fact that Partey injured himself, right in front of his own eyes no less!

Arteta needs to man up and own it, stop throwing your players under the proverbial bus.

Graham62

Burnley will be licking their lips.

Mark my words.

raptora

‘Hey Thomas, I know you’re now out for 3 months after we rushed you back, but can we talk about how you communicated your injury?’

LOL

Emiratesstroller

Valentin You are wrong. My feedback is that the problem with Saliba arose when the decision was taken to call him back and not allow him to play for St Etienne. That decision was taken by senior management at club and not Arteta. Since then the player has been in a bad mood and clearly wants out of the club. The consequence is as I have said is that Arsenal will be forced to loan him out in January and/or ultimately sold. Arteta made the decision not to register Saliba on two counts. First because he was not been playing… Read more »

Marc

Dissenter

You’re assuming we’ll beat Burnley. As I’ve said before I couldn’t see us getting more than 4 points against the Spud’s, Burnley, Southampton, Everton and Chelsea.

Right now I’m not sure we’ll get the 4 points with the way the wheels are coming off but that would give us 8 points from 30 – over a quarter of the season.

Arteta is finished some people just haven’t realised it yet.

TR7

WE

Who’s saying we were better than Spurs ?

Dissenter

Sal
No I said Partey’s signing was in the works since the summer of 2019. We hosted his people at the Emirates and discussed terms when Emery was in charge.

It is Aouar that I’m questioning. Arteta wouldn’t know what to do with him< maybe will have him jumping for headers in the box like he thinks Auba is the new Benteke.

raptora

“Expectations are so incredibly low that we have people saying that we were the better team and played well yesterday. Shows how far we have fallen as a club.”

Set up by Arteta btw, who was all smiles after losing to Man City, extremely proud and said we’ve turned a corner. All of his interviews of late are shocking.

WengerEagle

Beating Burnley changes little to nothing, they have scored 5 goals in 10 PL matches.

If we can’t beat a side like that at home then Arteta might not last the next couple of weeks.

Marc

Emirates

You’ve always been an intelligent and balanced poster but at the moment you’re making stupid arguments that don’t add up in reality. For example:

” and second because at the moment we are overloaded with Centre Backs.”

Why did we have 2 youth keepers on the bench against Molde then? Are you seriously telling me that was a better use of resources than giving a young talent the experience of being with the EL squad.

Leftside

Beating Burnley doesn’t prove anything and they’ll be rubbing their hands in excitement at playing against the likes of Willian, Xhaka and co

Guns of SF

Nelson ESR Soares and AMN need to start games now.

South African Gooner

W ***“Arteta should transfer list him, Partey , clearly already wants out of the club.”**** He is out and out merc. He has left Ath Madrid and their title challenge and CL forever to join our rabble and chaos for one reason only- DOSH. And lots of it. (they are just about the worst type of signings a failing club can make) We need young, hungry talented players on a pittance and with something to prove. Next season he will be 29 ( hopefully) and he has recurring groin issues already. That big Emirates pitch is not a home for… Read more »

Leftside

because make no mistake, those same players are walking straight back into the starting lineups

La croqueta

Apologies if I’ve misunderstood this information. But I’ve noticed many on here saying “when we clear the duds out in the summer” (2021). Then we’ll get rid of alot of the ded wood. So from what I can see here: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/arsenal-fc/vertragsende/verein/11/vertragsendeJahr/2021/plus/1 Only these players must leave due to expired contracts. Ceballos (Loan) Mustaphi Ozil Sokratis D.Luiz Macy. Now looking at the players who started yesterday. They haves years left on contract. They can refuse moves away. They can refuse to take lesser wages elsewhere. What makes fans so sure the exact same players that started yesterday won’t be here next… Read more »

Dissenter

‘ Arteta is 38, intelligent and speaks 6 languages’

….and Bielsa doesn’t even speak English, never yells at the sidelines and yet his players play with an expressive language .

Up 4 grabs now

Evening,

Pedro, good post, one of your best for a long time.
I’m just disappointed you had to write it.

Not many of us expected much from the game yesterday.
Our record their is pretty poor the last ten years so wasn’t expecting much.

We actually played ok, but we’ve seen this scenario hundreds of times before.
Dominate possession without creating much then a long ball over the top.
Maureen did it at Chelsea with drogba.
He did it at man utd with rashford.
He did it yesterday with son and Kane.

No surprise.

Gbat

Raptora

Yes I think if you’re pretending to be some kind of expert then you should have at least played the game.

Sid

‘And this notation that Partey is now shit being floated, is ridiculous. Get a grip people.’

He is not shit but he is overrated, better ways to spend what we paid for him.
Theres also a high chance he takes the same path as 29 yr old Wanyama at Spurs.

You can take this to the bank!

Ishola70

If Arteta continues to be so conservative in both his overall play and player selction then the Burnley game will be another slog with any result possible.

He dare not pick up the three points in that match though.

If he doesn’t get the three points and continues on it means this club is very contradictory and dishonest.

And you rarely get rewarded for being dishonest.

andy1886

Receding, I didn’t use the word ‘good;, no idea where Pedro got that from. I said we had sterile possession like back in the days of latter day Wenger.

andy1886

Tuchel? No thanks, getting fired by PSG isn’t likely to be much of a recommendation.

WengerEagle

TR7

Nobody, was more just lamenting our regression as a club.

Spurs were never in any danger yesterday though, always in control of the game.

TR7

‘You’ve always been an intelligent and balanced poster’

Allow me the liberty to be a cunt but I don’t recall ES ever saying an intelligent thing on this blog which puts him in the same category as me.

Graham62

Did I hear that Arteta took it as a compliment that he was being compared to Tony Pulis at Stoke?

Was Arteta at Arsenal when Ramsey was taken out( nearly for good) by Shawcross?

No he wasn’t.

Well done Mikel though for associating yourself with a team and manager that Arsenal fans detest

Marc

TR7

You’re in you own special category!

Dissenter

A players who’s so good his club went to war to have him play in a French cup final is really not good enough for our U-23 team.

Anything to prop Arteta it seems.

Black Snake

has anyone seen this site, it’s quite interesting.
https://www.coachesvoice.com/tactical-analysis-tottenham-2-arsenal-0/

even has a masterclass on how emery beat the bin dippers in the europa league final haha
https://www.coachesvoice.com/unai-emery-liverpool-sevilla-europa-league/

Up 4 grabs now

If arteta wants to get the fans back on side, and believe me he needs to do it quick.
He needs to drop the players who are constantly letting him down.
He needs to blood a few youngsters and if they screw up it won’t be any worse than what we’re seeing now.

You can’t rely on lumping crosses into the box especially if your tallest player is on wing and the crosses aren’t great.
You can score a goal ten different ways, trying the same thing over again is pointless.

Guns of SF

South African Gooner/ CG

Are you just trying to wind up folks?

Partey is our best player, injured and rushed back. Got injured during the game and was shoved back onto the pitch by an inept manager.

Same manager who found it ok to keep Luiz on for the first half with a bleeding head

Arteta is an ass of utter proportions. A drill seargent type who will get punched out if he is not careful by a pissed of player or 2!

Marc

Didn’t realise that the Burnley match is a 19.15 kick off on Sunday – cause they’ve gone really well for us.

Samesong

Even old Harry Redknapp going on about Xhaka now.

Open season

andy1886

Careful lads, or Ken Friar will be round with his knuckle dusters….

raptora

Gbat: “Yes I think if you’re pretending to be some kind of expert then you should have at least played the game.”

I play once a week with my buddies. But I guess you mean professionally.

You played for who exactly?

Marc

SF

It’s CG – he was doing this when Emery was in charge and is doing it again. He does not support Arsenal he supports Wenger. He wants the club to collapse so Wenger can come back and rescue it, if that can’t happen he’s like to see the club go bust as punishment.

WengerEagle

Nagelsmann, Gasperini and Marco Rose are all top tier choices and will be difficult because they are all at top clubs now competing in the league and CL.

Allegri is available but is an elite gaffer and may be waiting out a better opportunity to open up than 2020 Arsenal.

Also like Lopetegui, Marsch at Salzburg, Rodgers, Galtier at Lille and Imanol at Sociedad.

Marcelino is another available gaffer that would be a decent choice.

You look at the saliba situation. This is a kid who at 18 was a first team regular for st eteinne, the future of French football, some tabloids compared him to a young VVD , the world at his feet. All of a sudden he’s come to Arsenal and basically been told you’re not good enough and you’ll play for the under 23’s and we won’t play you at all in the first team. How the fuck would that make you feel? Especially when he looks over at Leicester and sees an ex team mate fofana getting game time and… Read more »

Ernest Reed

“Ernest
Have you met mr. mourinho?”

No, not personally. But i do admire his career results, despite him not appearing to be a particularly good person to deal with at times.

Marc

WE

As long as the interview process is conducted properly I’ll go with whoever the club pick. Interview only needs one question “Would you ever pick Xhaka?”

Dissenter

I believe it was Wenger Eagle who was making the point that Aubameyang has scored bags of goals for every gaffer he’s ever played for.
Every gaffer until Arteta came along and decided that he had to be remade as Benteke

Kaz

🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾

Come on Rafa, you’ve always hated Jose, come to us.

TR7

WE

Yes, even a brief spell between 30 min to 45 min until Kane scored got me a tad excited simply because we had little bit of impetus in our game, things have gone that bad.

South African Gooner

Sidney

****He is not shit but he is overrated, better ways to spend what we paid for him*****

Off course there is.
Thing is- we do not have any scouts left.( Edu)

Thats why no sensible club paid the the ridiculous bounty placed upon his head and splashed out £200 k a week on him.

Party £50 million
Pepe £72 million
Saliba £30 million
Willian x 156 weeks @ £250 000 per week

G of H is correct- we do not deserve to survive.

We deserve all of this. And more.

TR7

I want Arteta to do well and I hope we get back our form but in case Arteta gets the boot then I wouldn’t mind Hassenhutl. I am impressed by the work he has put in at Southampton and he wouldn’t be that difficult to get.

WengerEagle

TYAG

The Europa League exclusion of Saliba was shameful. And Arteta was shameless in his explanation of it publicly.

I don’t care how green you think the lad is, if he is not up to Dundalk home and away, he’s not cut out to ever be a part of this club.

I still can’t believe that he went on to spend 40m on Gabriel and Mari to load up our squad with EIGHT centre halves.

8 CBs and not one creative or attacking midfielder worth their salt.

Dissenter

TYAGN
Aouar played in the French u-21 team with Guendouzi by the way.
Word gets around.

WengerEagle

Marc

Two part question then:

‘How many crosses into the box does it take to win a PL game?’

Kaz

Also, super minor point but Auba pretty much always gets a star shaved into his head everytime he plays Tottenham.

The fact he didn’t this time round I think speaks more for him getting fed up with the boss.

Kaz

And again the disrespect shown to the guy who has rescued us so often is crazy

South African Gooner

SF

****Partey is our best player, injured and rushed back. Got injured during the game and was shoved back onto the pitch by an inept manager.*****

Best player or not. You DO NOT just walk off the field of play.

you can fall on the floor,
you can stand your ground,
you can wave to the bench.,
you can rugby tackle the Spurs player.
but you can not just quit……

Would he have done that in a ATM shirt and with Simeone as his manager?

Dissenter

Wenger Eagle
You’re missing the point as usual
The goal of those 44 crosses into the box is to use mind control the opposition defenders to get us an own goal.
It will happen, waits for it.

Marc

“Would he have done that in a ATM shirt and with Simeone as his manager?”

Would Simeone have forced someone to play in such a high profile match when clearly not fit? Maybe Partey’s sussed Arteta already?

Kaz

In fact Arteta reminds me of when Paolo Di Canio was managing in the PL. Out of his depth, constantly alienating players and poor team selections.

WengerEagle

Has Aubameyang ever gone on such a long goal drought in league football since he’s been a CF?

Has not scored in open play since the opening day match at Fulham.

If not for the penalty at OT he’d be scoreless in 10 PL matches.

Gbat

Raptora

Play with your buddies once a week? Sounds very competitive. At least I now know how far your knowledge stretches. You keep posting those stats.

Pierre

I see more urgency in our attacking play .
I see us having more attempts at goal
I see us getting punished for every mistake..
I see an attack that’s devoid of confidence.
I see Arteta trying to change things.

I also see desperation in our attacking play
I dont see composure
I dont see patience
I don’t see composure
I dont see Ozil ..(unfortunately)

Expectations need to be lowered and fans need to be patient..

Maxy

Long time reader, first time commenter. Pedro – love reading you, and have always found myself totally aligned with your thinking (especially throughout the misery of the latter Wenger years.) So am really surprised to see how quickly you’ve gone nuclear on MA. It’s horrendous right now, I don’t think there’s any debate there. And MA has clearly made mistakes and needs to own them. But he’s also done a lot of good in his first 12 months (not least a trophy) and it’s absurd how quickly people have lost faith in him, and discarded all the rationale into why… Read more »

Ernest Reed

“Also, super minor point but Auba pretty much always gets a star shaved into his head everytime he plays Tottenham.The fact he didn’t this time round I think speaks more for him getting fed up with the boss.” You may want to check the replay again Kaz, Auba did have a star shaved in for yesterday. Bottom line, if you cant get pumped up and raring to go against Spurs, you have no business being on the pitch. Auba was abject at best yesterday and despite protestations otherwise, at least Xhaka came ready to play and bruised his way about… Read more »

Valentin

ES, Strangely enough, I have been told the exact opposite, that the entire fiasco was the result of Arteta and his coaching staff meddling and changing their mind on Saliba, Holding and Mari. By insisting on Arsenal still occurring the same initial financial penalty for playing the 19th game of his loan in the French domestic Cup final, ASSE misjudged Arsenal mood and that backfired. Saliba had accepted the decision and understood and agreed on the reasoning behind. However what has not been accepted by Saliba is the fact Arsenal was negotiating behind his back to sell or loan him… Read more »

Mb

Cheer up, guys. The worst is yet to come!

raptora

It literally was between Mustafi, Mari and Saliba and he decided to exclude Saliba and give spots to the other 2. He was perfectly aware that Saliba is joining but still bought Mari. Between Mari and Saliba: Saliba is younger, has way higher ceiling, had fantastic reviews, would have used the Europa games to bed in, was already bought but not by him, was available to start the games in Europa. Mari is older, has probably peaked in his physical attributes and fk me you couldn’t call him quick, Arsenal was by far the biggest club he could sign for,… Read more »

Dissenter

Kaz
Regarding Paulo Di Canio
The story goes that he scored the highest ever grades for the Italian coaching badge. His football knowledge was never in doubt.
He was a guaranteed psycho though, same as Roy Keane

raptora

Gbat,

Answer my question. Who do/did you play for? I answered you, it’s your turn now.

Guns of SF

And that would stop Spurs from playing? Seeing Partey injured?
Also, rugby tackling a spurs player? Really?
CG stop smoking what your are smoking man. You going crazy

Best player or not. You DO NOT just walk off the field of play.

you can fall on the floor,
you can stand your ground,
you can wave to the bench.,
you can rugby tackle the Spurs player.
but you can not just quit……

Would he have done that in a ATM shirt and with Simeone as his manager?

South African Gooner

**** Maybe Partey’s sussed Arteta already?*****

probably has.

But what about the supporters?

£200 k a week and he just ambles off the pitch in a NLD?

I can not stand Luiz- but he ( wrongly) continued last week with blood pouring out of his head wound.

No excuses for Partey.

Feeble.He will fit in well here at Arsenal.

salparadisenyc

Partey’s only crime was being too professional and walking off, should of held to his La Liga roots and planted himself right in the center of the pitch where the counter then ensued.

Jamie

“I have been told”

Up to his old tricks again. Perfect.

WengerEagle

Don’t disagree Sal but it wouldn’t have changed the outcome, no chance that they would have kicked it out in touch during such an opportunity to counter.

Would have saved him possibly doing more damage though the way that Tets made him attempt to run back on.

Nelson

Just watched the replay of the 2nd goal. When the ball was pasted from Son to Kane, Gabriel went over to cut down the cross. Leno should move up to cut down the angle. Instead, he was rooted on the goal line. The ball flew over his hands.

Montana Gooner

Glad I was out fishing yesterday and not watching. Wonder if relegation would rid us of Kronke because the one common denominator of the past 10 years of shite is him.

Marc

Emirates / Valentin

Wasn’t it being reported in the summer that Saliba has decided not to take time off in the summer and was doing extra training in order to get in shape for the season?

Doesn’t sound like a player sulking to me. Emirates I don’t know who your source is but I’d take it with a pinch of salt – sounds like someones playing the blame game and trying to stop Arteta taking another hit.

Dissenter

Nelson
No goalie was saving that shot from Kane
It was 4 vs 2, the goalie was grabbed away once Son played Kane on.

Dissenter

Marc
I agree with that last post
Saliba reported for Arsenal duty very early, as far back as the FA cup final.

@Marc

Spot on mate. Arteta is a shit judge of a players ability. Just look at the fact before Martinelli got injured he dropped him for Nketiah. Fucking clueless. Should be thankful Sanogo is no longer here as Arteta would be playing him every game along with gus ceaser in defence

Dissenter

The goalkeeper was dragged way

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