Arteta struggles look insurmountable. Can he find the way?

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Well, here we are, reality.

Life is pretty shit if you’re an Arsenal fan right now. But, things can improve fast if you believe. Positive. Mental. Attitude. Who said that? Kriss Akabusi?

For example, by thinking posi (shortened for impact), I managed to muster the energy to have the letter ‘T’ fixed on my laptop. Do you know how good that feels as a writer? Glorious. Absoluely glorious.

What doesn’t feel glorious is overseeing the current wreckage at Arsenal. However, spare a thought for Aston Villa who were beaten by the might of David Moyes and the strong backhand of Lady Luck last night. Also, pour one out for the main man, Brendan Rodgers, whose Leicester lost to Fulham. We’re still just five points from 4th, even after losing half our games. This year is going to be rough for everyone.

What those losses mean more generally is that you can go from fraud to not-fraud quite quickly. 5 wins on the bounce and you are in the mixer.

The main problem Arsenal has is there don’t seem to be too many escape routes out of this mess.

Thomas Partey is apparently out for a long time.

We banished the one creative we had at the club.

Willock, Eddie, ESR and Reiss are a long way from being ready.

Ainsley must have sat on the boss’s guinea pig because he’s out in the cold again.

Pepe, let’s face it, is not good enough. He can barely look elite against pub teams. No chance he’ll click and be the Zaha Senor Emery wanted him to be.

All the great solutions we have as fans just don’t work with the mix we have at the moment.

Let’s also be honest, we lost our three big games in fine margins matches. Aston Villa was the blip. Then all hell broke loose and we demanded a more attacking brand of football.

What did we get? Emery carnage.

What does that teach us? That maybe we’re not good enough to play a delightful brand of football with players that couldn’t do it last year.

So much for the fans that said ‘I’LL TAKE SHITTY RESULTS IF WE TRY AND PLAY MORE ATTACKING FOOTBALL.’ Monday morning after a loss and people are sacrificing sheep on the Armoury stairs hoping the gods of football termination are listening.

Arsenal are a five at the back squad right now. Without Partey and Mo driving the midfield, we’re fucking shite. WIthout a creative to connect midfield and attack, we’re pedestrian and anti-playing through the middle. It’s a real shit sandwich.

Things will get better because I don’t think they can get worse at the moment.

By January, we’ll have Partey and Mo in the middle. That gives us tempo and speed at the base of midfield. It also gives us players that can press for a full 90. We’ll bring Gabriel M back into the mixer, much needed, again, he gives us something we don’t have. He’s direct, good with his head, and no one attacks the ball like him. He’s the Leeds United energy we lack. Then you have Pablo Mari and Cal Chambers coming back into the mixer. Who the fuck knows what Pablo will be like, but he can pass and he’s built. Cal was playing very well before the break and he can move the ball with purpose.

Then you have the transfer kitty that the execs will go begging for. We’re being linked with a whole collection of players. Buendia of Norwich, Isco of Madrid, Max Aarons… there are rumblings that we’ll try and do something sexy so we can unlock some sort of exciting football in the back half of the season. I don’t know how much I believe that noise… Vinnai is like a gambler racking up bigger and bigger debts at craps table. How ย many more ‘please sir, can I have some more’ moments will the Kroenke family accept with the wage bill we have and the empty stadiums that are happening?

The hope is we’re not starting January thinking about next season. I’d like to be in the mixer. That could start with a win this weekend, though I’m hard-pushed to see us dealing with Kane, Son, and Mourinho who are all in excellent in form at the moment.

Still, crazier things have happened. Are we not due something crazy? DO WE NOT DESERVE A THING AT SOME POINT?

I tell yah, fuck being the positive beacon of hope in the Arsenal community. It is way easier to be a miserable c*nt. Just take a negative position on everything, because eventually, in football, you’ll always be right.

Why did I back the vision? I could have just taken it easy, but oh no, I had to treat the Arteta brand like I was selling cookies at work. WHY DID I CHANGE? Now I have nowhere to hide, but you know what, fuck all of you that come to the site to gloat. You may have won the battle, but the war isn’t over… and let’s be honest, the people that are crying ‘SACK ARTETA’ would be the guys at war playing cricket with live grenades.

I think most people are on board with the idea of keeping Arteta on the project. We’ve seen 3 managers downed by this group of players, I’m not sure the club has the stomach to give someone else a go. The pipedreams of Allegri, Poch, or Nagelsmann are just that.

  1. We don’t have the money for their salaries
  2. We don’t’ have the money for the transfers managers on the up need to fulfil their ambitions
  3. We’re a fucking mess. Until we address the issues that are 10 years in the making, it’ll be hard to attract the very best.

We took the young manager route. We’ve made some bad decisions along the way. We will hopefully learn from them and course correct.

Arteta turned things around once, he can do it again. He needs to get back to basics. For starters, we’re not pressing, something that was really effective before. Where did it go? Players should be picked on form, not on reputation. Players should be dropped if they don’t’ hit the standards. Why have we gone from starting Reiss against Liverpool at the start of this project to bumming around with Willian again? If 5 at the back is the way, fuck it, it’s the way. If Auba on the left is better for him because he won’t press like our system needs, put him on the left. If Xhaka needs a special system to look half decent, then maybe he’s not the player for an 11 that needs 11 players that can run.

My hunch is it is not over, we’ll get into a good run, and we’ll laugh and joke about this moment as a turning point.

Dream, not hunch… but I can dream grenade cricketer.

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DM

The morning after the day after the night before

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DM

Pedro “fuck all of you that come to the site to gloat” I don’t think most people want to gloat, but I’m sure a lot of people do want consistency. Remember when the tagline under the LG heading was “Where you can have an opinion, not get one”? The problem is that every time anything went wrong with Emery, you went in super hard with the “we should’ve gone with Arteta” line. Not just “we shouldn’t have got Emery”, but that we made a HUGE balls-up in not getting Arteta, who is this generational manager. Look, I’m not even saying… Read more »

Nelson

Good morning DM

Nkem

Well said DM, For some reason fans didnโ€™t like Emery, I still think the management havenโ€™t helped him with enough transfers though

David Smith

Fair play injecting a little cause for optimism, hard to find. Still believe the biggest problems are the way the club has been run for a long time, an increasingly misguided dictator, followed by a sudden power vacume, that will always cause problems, and is certainly not Artetas fault. Most eventually pay a price for running something badly, or neglecting it, trusting the wrong people. Some teams in the fairly recent past have paid a bigger price than the bottom half of the EPL, others have taken years, or a lot of money to get back back to where they… Read more »

andy1886

Emery obsessive!

Kris

I think we’ll surprise everyone and win at spurs, but then again suffer against ‘smaller’ teams.

We do NEED Martinelli right now. If we get a creative player in Jan, and Martinelli and Partey return, things could get better fast.

Calypso

David Smith

Why are you making excuses, Arteta knows more than anyone how the club is run him being an ex-player and all that.

andy1886

Anyone discovered what this ‘project’ or ‘vision’ actually is yet? Or are these just meaningless buzz words thrown around to try and hide our lack of direction?

Nelson

As the old saying goes, to win the war, you have to know yourselves and the opponent. As for the opponent, Mou’s team is strong playing fast counter. If you defend high, Son will pick the gap and Kane will feed Son. Kane always keep an eye on Son when he has the ball. As for us, Mohamed Elneny is ideal to cover Kane. We’ll return to the trusted 3 4 3 where our players are familiar with. When defending, I’ll keep Auba close to the midfield line. Whoever got the ball, send it over the top for Auba to… Read more »

Chinagunner

Top 20

ace

Like somebody predicted in the comment section after the loss against Wolves, that come Tuesday, after a Monday of grieving, Pedro would remind us where his head is at; firmly up Arteta’s butt. Listen people, Arteta is an excellent coach. Look how he occupied the assistant coach’s seat at City with such distinction that nobody knows the current City assistant coach. The players are sabotaging him. it’s a full blown mutiny dammit! People should be made to walk the plank. *Just trying out how it feels to have my head up the ass hole of a rookie coach with no… Read more »

Sid

‘Arsenal are just as passive and cumbersome with the ball. They have the 4th most touches per 90 minutes in their own defensive third but the 12th fewest touches in the opposition third and opposition penalty area.’

Dream, not hunchโ€ฆ but I can dream grenade cricketer(lmaooooo)

Sid

‘we had the joint-most attempted crosses by a PL team in a game this season on Sunday’

GeNeRaTiOnAl!

Left Testicle

Test

Pierre

https://arseblog.com/2020/11/tactics-column-from-caviar-to-sausages-to-this/

This was posted by Le Sauce earlier and it is spot on..

It’s all very well Pedro saying all the players are basically crap but they are being set up to fail and this link shows you why..

It is impossible to judge any player at this present time..

He needs to get back to basics and ffs stop asking our centre mids to play on the touch line.
To have willock and ceballos Ceballos basically playing in the full back area is hardly going to get the best out of those players is it.

Calypso

Damning statistics โ€“ Only Newcastle, Crystal Palace and Burnley have averaged fewer shots per game than Arsenalโ€™s 9.5. โ€“ Only one club (Liverpool) have won fewer aerial duels than Arsenalโ€™s average of 12.5 per game. โ€“ Despite tightening up under Arteta, Arsenal are still 10th for shots conceded per game. โ€“ No team has made fewer tackles than Arsenalโ€™s 11.7 per game. โ€“ For interceptions, Arsenalโ€™s 10.4 per game ranks 12th in the Premier League. โ€“ Only three clubs โ€“ Villa, Sheffield United and Burnley โ€“ have attempted fewer dribbles than Arsenal this season. โ€“ Only Liverpool have blocked fewer… Read more »

Nelson

Spuds has to travel to Austria and we play at home on Thursday. At least a small advantage.

James wood.

Sid .
Most of those crosses did not pass the 1st defender.?
Appalling.

David Smith

Calypso, yes he does, he was clearly shocked by things as he sat on the City bench not long before he joined us.
But that doesnโ€™t alter the fact, the club is a mess, and someone needs to sort it, but it is going to take Arteta or anyone else a long time.
Arteta maybe isnโ€™t the type to duck a challenge

Foxy

The problem as shown by our good performance at Man U is not 3 at the back but the players we have such as Xhaka and Holding how Arteta is implementing it to cover their deficiencies . Wenger and Arteta both won the FA cup with 3 at the back as it gives us a degree of defensive solidity with less than Elite pacy centre halves when the rest of the team bomb forward, As Pedro has mentioned the secret is how the ball is then played out from the back i.e ball playing defenders bring it forward to feed… Read more »

Nelson

Pierre

That won’t happen if we play the 3 4 3 system. There we have the two wing backs occupying the touch line.

Le Sauce

Pierre

Nothing we have seen from Arteta shows generational coaching as the arseblog article indicates. Looks more like we’re being set up by Lucy the tea lady
Our play is so risk averse, ponderous, one-dimensional (loading the wings), predictable and very boring. It look’s a very silly decision to bench Ozil without any back up plan. Arteta needs to wake up!!

Pierre

Wouldn’t it be nice to see a no.10 /cam type playing in the hole, taking the ball on the half turn linking the play and bringing hia team mates into the game…

If only we had such a player ….oh yeah , we have !

Left Testicle

The state of things when you want Elneny back in the team!

GARY_SSSSS

Pedro, We all have to lower our expectations with what Arteta can do with this squad of playing staff. Seriously, how many of these players would we keep if we could play fantasy swop shop, 4 or 5 maybe, at the most? The FA Cup win and the two good signings made in the summer, plus Willian (major disappointment) gave us all false hope and raised expectations, and at the end of the day, it’s the hope that kills you. Right now, I think we are likely to finish 8th at best, and only if we see some serious improvement.… Read more »

Pierre

Nelson
“That wonโ€™t happen if we play the 3 4 3 system. There we have the two wing backs occupying the touch line.”

You can play wing backs without overloading the wide areas .
Can be a 3-5-2 , this gives the team 3 centre mids and 2 strikers and the wing backs do what wing backs are supposed to do , patrol the wide areas.

Left Testicle

Andy1886
I think they’re buzz words – along with ‘process’.
‘Project’, ‘vision’ and ‘process’. Sounds good – doesn’t mean anything.

Has anybody else noticed the latest thing with pundits and politicians. Before getting to their point they tell us to ‘listen’ or ‘look’. For example…’Listen, Xhaka shouldn’t be in the team’. We don’t need to be told to ‘listen’. We ‘listen’ be default – we don’t need telling. The worst culprit being Rio Ferdinand.

Calypso

You’d be hard pushed to get this team playing worse than Emery’s bad spell blip yet Arteta has managed to with aplomb.

Le Sauce

We need to change the approach and make do with what we have. It’s all good and nice to say new signings will be the panacea to our problems but not all signings work out (Nicolas Pepe). We can’t be scared of playing against the smaller teams and completely neglect the middle of the pitch. We don’t have a balanced squad but the squad is better than what we’re currently experiencing.

Bergkamp63

Garry_sss

Iโ€™m with you on that, unrealistic expectations given the last 10 years.

Pedro,

How long before Edu parts company with us ? My money would be on him going first.

JonSST

Dear Pedro , very enjoyable read as always. Why would anyone want to gloat , if they do then thatโ€™s disgusting to their fellow fans. I enjoy reading everyoneโ€™s opinion. Especially when it turns out wrong, lol. But itโ€™s brave to put it out there in black and white. Itโ€™s what football is all about, having heated debates in the pub over a few pints and laughing at each otherโ€™s wild opinions . Not being allowed in to vent frustrations / support the team (usually at the same time) is sending everyone crazy right now. Iโ€™m gonna support this manager… Read more »

Left Testicle

There shouldn’t be one first team player anywhere near that squad on Thursday.

andy1886

Give it up Pierre, you’ll only get all grumpy again when Ozil is left out of the squad in January.

Foxy did make me laugh though when talking about the team ‘bombing forwards’ – I must have missed that this season!

On the plus side we seem to have abandoned the sloth like passing out from the back for now, a small silver lining at least.

Le Sauce

Pedro

I feel it’s high time we let go of the whole Emery thing. I know statements like emery carnage triggers some on the blog but Emery is the least of our problems right now. If anything Arteta is out performing Emery on the “Emery carnage stage”

andy1886

@B63 – What difference would Edu leaving make to the way we are playing?

Gbat

The players are struggling with the positional tactics. There’s very little movement and it’s predictable and easy to defend against. Pepe, Willian etc need a lot more freedom than they are being given. And bringing Ozil in isn’t going to make much difference if everyone is stuck in their “zones”.

YZ

As crazy (and naive) as this sounds, things aren’t THAT bad. I think everyone just needs to breathe. 1. We’ve had 3 bad results at home, undeniable. 2. The performances haven’t been good – particularly against Villa and Wolves (versus Leicester we were not great but they didn’t deserve to win). I think the real issue is that is has affected players confidence. It feels like they have no belief they are going to find the back of the net. And it’s now affecting everything. Arteta has got all the ingredients to be a great manager. His lesson from this… Read more »

Waz

Complaining people come to gloat when you regularly take every opportunity to tell us how right you were is rich. People with fragile egos shouldnโ€™t live in glass houses. Thatโ€™s the problem here, so much bias and agenda and little objectivity. Itโ€™s all so binary and childish; good or shit, Emery or Arteta. That may produce good headlines and get the comment numbers up with silly arguments but wouldnโ€™t it be great to analyse things, debate and hypothesise without the playground nonsense.

Le Sauce

Gbat

Exactly!!. You don’t expect to see free flowing attacking football if the players are not allowed to express themselves. Players are not robots and Arteta is too rigid with his approach. Seems like we could sign Messi and still create fuck all as he would be asked to hug the touch line and not leave his “zone”

South African Gooner

The reason you got conned by Arteta- is because soccer is the bullshit industry in the world. So its easily done- you will not be the first to be duped- you will not be the last. I ‘ve been ‘doing’ English soccer for 5 decades- and I have never seen such an inept manager as Arteta.And the word inept is so generous. There is nothing he does right. Nothing. Just look at the Luiz head injury and keeping the stricken player on the pitch. Blood seeping through the bandaged Luiz in these corona times. Sickening! You can spin as many… Read more »

Ernest Reed

What doesnโ€™t kill you will make you stronger. To be honest its better that Arteta experience the lows associated with trying to find a system that works with an obviously dysfunctional group of players. This much is true, barring a complete collapse Arteta will outlast some of those whose attitudes are detrimental to moving forward. Eventually this will truly be his team. You don’t remove years of blunders in player acquisitions overnight and as has been shown, sometimes you cant move on deadwood period because no one else wants them either. This was always going to be a long term… Read more »

Sid

Left TesticleDecember 1, 2020 10:03:42
The state of things when you want Elneny back in the team!

Ouoooooch

Jamie

CG has been waiting for this moment to shoot his load.

How’s Burnley doing under the expert guidance of proper manager Sean Dyche?

Truth hurts.

Le Sauce

Is south African gooner CG?.. Truth hurts comes to mind, Tick Tock is next

Peckobill

Give it up Pedro itโ€™s over for arteta , you know it , I know it , everyone knows it . No one comes to gloat just to vent because we are tired watching this shit . Forty years Iโ€™ve been a fan and in all honesty this is the worst Iโ€™ve ever seen us play . Iโ€™ll back any manager who is taking us in the right direction but arteta isnโ€™t it , he just cannot coach an attack whatsoever, this is artetaโ€™s version of arsenal

Ernest Reed

โ€œIf only we had such a player โ€ฆ.oh yeah , we have !โ€

Is it Wednesday yet, you insufferable old goat, Pierre! I hope you at least polished up your clubs and buffed your shoes?

Sid

‘Itโ€™s all very well Pedro saying all the players are basically crap but they are being set up to fail and this link shows you why..’

This much is clear especially for our forwards Auba, Pepe, Nketiah
Kept saying this when we played Xhakalson a midfielder as Left sided CB, It was hipster back then in reality it means one less player involved in attacks.

Left Testicle

If a new manager comes in and tanks I don’t think he’ll refer back to ‘the Arteta carnage stage’ like he refers to ‘the Emery carnage stage’.

Just saying.

Left Testicle

Part of me thinks it’s deliberate marketing by Pedro.

Emery references = more posts on the site.

Grant

This all stems from the Ozil issue, imagine how some of the ayers fell knowing the team is lacking creatively. How must they fell seeing Ozil in training doing what’s missing in the games, you can’t honestly tell me we’d be in a worse situation if Ozil was in the team. Regards on what he’s done behind the scenes, football is a results business. Sadly this is going to get much much worse, and will result in a relegation scrap and Arteta being sacked.

Mattb

Pierre,

Thereโ€™s a lot of good recent analysis on Arseblog, and 7am. You know hipster, data-driven stuff. (it is 2020 FFS). All says the same thing. The coaching is letting the players down.

Le Sauce

Ernest
Like it or not you’ll have to cope with Pierre for a while because we’re actually not creating anything so there is a possibility we get to see Ozil by January. We need to start creating chances and scoring goals else the “we’re still five points off top four” rhetoric would read “we’re still five points off the final Europa spot” by early April.

Pierre

Morning Ernie
Bloody freezing out there , just taken the dog for a walk on the beach .
Hope the wind drops for tomorrow, 11.30 tee time

Have a watch of this Ern …i posted it yesterday but the miserable gits on here were too busy talking football .

https://youtu.be/irBmlk6HWQw

Ernest Reed

LeSauce, coping with Pierre is the easiest part of my day. He and I go back and forth and i happen to like him, truth be told. Its just banter between a couple of older codgers.

Pierre

Grant
“Regards on what heโ€™s done behind the scenes, football is a results business. ”

Missing a Zoom meeting(whatever that is).

Chewing gum in class also breached the famous non negotiables..

Pierre

Ern
Correct..

It’s nothing personal ..

We are missing Ozil though..

Mattb

Sid,

I Enjoy your posts.

Weโ€™ve used the most players of any club this season. Tells you Arteta doesnโ€™t know his best team yet.

In the last 20 league games weโ€™ve won 29 points.

In the second half against Wolves we failed to have a shot on target. Not the first time this season.

Phil Neville would do a better job ๐Ÿ™‚

englandsbest

It’s the personnel, not the manager An overpaid uinderperforming bunch. The end result of negligence by the owners, the nuttiness of egotistic Wenger, the ineffectuality of Emery, the dodgy dealing of Sanlehi. Nobody is suggesting Arteta is perfect. Far from it. But he will learn quickly. His biggest flaw is naivety. His belief that he could transform the overpaid and underperforming. By now he must realise that they were much too comfortable to change.Or if they did, it would be momentary. His hope lies with the youngsters, the untainted, not the old hands. No doubt many would have been sold… Read more »

Ernest Reed

Now thats funny, Pierre! You just made my day. LOL

Ernest Reed

โ€œWe are missing Ozil though..โ€

Just you, Pierre. ๐Ÿ˜‰

AC

DM – I thought and you said. Pedroโ€œfuck all of you that come to the site to gloatโ€I donโ€™t think most people want to gloat, but Iโ€™m sure a lot of people do want consistency. Remember when the tagline under the LG heading was โ€œWhere you can have an opinion, not get oneโ€?The problem is that every time anything went wrong with Emery, you went in super hard with the โ€œwe shouldโ€™ve gone with Artetaโ€ line. Not just โ€œwe shouldnโ€™t have got Emeryโ€, but that we made a HUGE balls-up in not getting Arteta, who is this generational manager.Look, Iโ€™m… Read more »

Le Sauce

How nice Ernest.. Seems like Pierre is winning tho and can gloat for now till Arteta comes up with something. Cheers!

Sid

Left TesticleDecember 1, 2020 10:40:33
If a new manager comes in and tanks I donโ€™t think heโ€™ll refer back to โ€˜the Arteta carnage stageโ€™ like he refers to โ€˜the Emery carnage stageโ€™.Just saying.

Supreme leader finds himself outnumbeerd, LT with the The frog splash, after the gorilla press slam, they now have him in the Texas cloverleaf…..Marc is on the top rope Harlem hangover incoming

Left Testicle

๐Ÿ™‚

Left Testicle

Is Marc binned?

andy1886

I’m sure that the players really miss Ozil – or teacher’s pet as Ramsey called him. I’m sure that they were super delighted that when they took a pay cut he declined. A real team player is our Mesut!

Batistuta

๐Ÿ˜ฑ Arsenal haven’t managed more shots per game (9.5) than any of the bottom clubs across Europe’s top five leagues

๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Sheffield United – 9.5
๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Crotone – 10
๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ Huesca – 10.2
๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Schalke – 10.6
๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท Dijon – 10.1

Dissenter

Pedro
Iโ€™m clear-eyed about us taking the โ€œ the young manager routeโ€™
Iโ€™m however;I Iivid because we gave that young manager too much power too quickly.
You were too wiling to do an about-turn on everything youโ€™ve argued for just because you love the manager.
Heโ€™s a one trick pony whoโ€™s surrounded himself with yes-men and whoโ€™s suffering from writing power away from an inexperienced technical director.
Have fun re-arranging the chairs in the Arteta-Titanic. You have a royal-stateroom view.

Marc

Pedro “Now I have nowhere to hide, but you know what, fuck all of you that come to the site to gloat. ” I know this is really difficult for you to comprehend but some of us don’t support Arteta, or Emery or even Wenger we support Arsenal. Manager’s come and go, some are good, some aren’t, some are successful most aren’t but you need to get through your head that I don’t give a shit who the manager is providing they are doing a good job. That doesn’t mean winning every match it does mean evolving the squad and… Read more »

Dissenter

*wresting powerโ€

David Smith

sadly, this plight is about so much more than Arteta. If he or someone else cannot sort it on the pitch, this club could easily sink in a way that would make Leeds of a yesteryear look a well run club. Just look at the overheads this club face in coming years. I am sure there are people at the club trying to turn things around, but they have made major mistakes, let things rot for way too long. Just hope Tim Lewis, when all said and done , just a lawyer, has a handle on what has and is… Read more »

Dissenter

What we are going through right now is free fall relation level football; dismal results and even poorer performances
Why not produce xGA numbers?
Players are clearly unhappy and many are just going through the motions.
If we feel miserable now, wait until we play Spud and the gulf in class shines through.

Marc

“How long before Edu parts company with us ? My money would be on him going first.”

Now that wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest – the problem is we’ve just promoted Arteta to be on the same level as Edu – any replacement worth his sort would demand and need to be senior to Arteta so how do you balance that?

Gonsterous

Not getting points, wrong system, worse performance, not playing to our strengths, no creativity, no attack, no fluidity. I didn’t think we could get worse after emery but here we are, and we are still being asked to be patient and allow arteta another 200m to spend. What proof is there so far that he’s going to improve arsenal with that investment?

Dissenter

Arteta inherited a bad team, no different that his preceding manager [not Freddie]
He then proceeded to make the situation worse, steering the club to make meaningless loan purchases of Mari and Soares.
Then he needlessly got involved with wage reduction negotiations brought by inexperience and over-eagerness to please his bosses.
Thereโ€™s no way the club signed Willian or made permanent the Soares and Mari deals behind his back – these are Arteta players..

Gonsterous

Auba scoring goals for fun the last couple seasons, has nobody providing anything. Who do we blame for that? Player poverty? RVP singlehandedly got us to 3rd, because we played to his strength. RVP top of his form and Wenger moves him left, would that happen?

Gbat

I don’t see Arteta getting the sack any time soon. I think he’ll be given until at least this time next season. The summer will see a big change in the squad. We’ll finally have Ozil out the club. I, for one will be very happy about that.

Arteta can still turn it around. Things change very quickly in football.

Batistuta

That stat i posted above. We’re in such horrible company it’s quite scary. Not so sure giving him more time even till January would be ideal if the next couple of results don’t improve

Dissenter

Arteta doesnโ€™t know his limitations
Heโ€™s the type of guy that will go red in the face when asked to assess his own weaknesses.
I always bristle when I hear him talk about how the squad he inherited was disconnected from the fans. Heโ€™s lucky that fans arenโ€™t in the stadium to connect their feelings with him.

The Saliba situation is really bad, I doubt if that young lad will ever play for Arsenal. Heโ€™s done with Arteta, much like Guendouzi.

Gonsterous

Inexperience has come to bite tets in the back. Owners backed by getting TP, he should have sold the dross to fund other upgrades. That’s on him.

Wasn’t a fan of his hire, but I was swayed by his FA cup win and the fulham game. I was conned. Poor, innocent me.

I’m back to Tets out, this guy would have the current chelsea or city squad in 10th trying not to concede a goal.

Dissenter

When people say they donโ€™t see Arteta getting fired soon and he will be given till next season.

A]The need to add on provisos; provided the results turn around.

If we continue to bleed at this pace, heโ€™ll be gone in December and itโ€™s Josh Kroenkes who will the lever. Vinai and Edu are too alloyed with Arteta- the sack job has to involve them too.

Kaz

Ped
You were licking his balls over every decision he made over players.

It’s been proven he’s been wrong on nearly everything.
We’ve been pointing out his shit tactics and man management for a few months but you just covered your eyes and yelled sauce at us.

Let me break it down.

He fluked an FA Cup. He’s fucking shit. We are playing the worst football in the league and are slowly getting to that level.

No more excuses.

#ArtetaOut

Kaz

I asked you a few articles ago do you support Arsenal or Arteta.

You didn’t answer.

Kaz

We didn’t take the young manager route we took the novice manager route. A guy who’s been coached by dreck most of his life and had absolutely no hands on experience but 3 seasons of Guardiola would undo the rest?

Why the fuck does he deserve more time?

You sincerely believe a functional manager wouldn’t be able to extract more out of our squad? Shows you to be the fool.

Yes, Arsenal still can attract good managers, it’s Arsenal. Maybe not elite but at the moment we don’t have a good or elite manager.

South African Gooner

Gbat ***Arteta can still turn it around. Things change very quickly in football.*** Another dreamer.Wake up man. How? We can not score from open play. Our center half is our most potent goalscorer. The players all look and play like they are 5 years older than they actually are, Imagine going into training every day and listening to Steve Round And Arteta talk about transitions and blocks? Wheres the fun and enjoyment in that? Scott Parker’s Fulham are on our coattails. West Ham are superior. Bloody West Ham United! Arteta. has locked all our resources into older codgers like PEA,… Read more »

englandsbest

David Smith

‘Can’t think what happened …’?

Negligence by the owners, that’s what happened.

The default position on here is to blame the manager. People seem to forget that that the owner is the boss. And almost invariably when a top tier club declines the way Arsenal has, the owner is the cause.

The decline can be dated back to when DD became persona non grata.. Fingers crossed, Tim Lewis can play that role.

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Kaz

Englandsbest

We all know the Kroenke’s negligence has been a factor or our descent.

No one is unaware of this.

However, Josh and Stan Kroenke aren’t setting the team and tactics each bloody week are they?

Kick this shit manager out.

Graham62

When Arteta took over the reigns nearly a year ago, he must have known that he was taking over a poisoned chalice. He would also have known that the players, and squad in general, were shot and lacking in confidence and belief. There were clear signs though that the players were buying into his methods and principles and our FA Cup success highlighted that the team was bonding and starting to play as a unit. Yes, there were still visible frailties in the team but things were definitely improving. Inexplicably, Arteta disrupted the feel good factor and, as we have… Read more »

Nelson

I wonder what this Zoom Meeting is all about. The players didn’t play any smarter. Did they spend all the time talking about pay reduction and Ozil missed that information?

Marc

Graham

As Pep’s Ass Manager he would have been part of the tactical setup when assessing the opposition – with that in mind don’t tell me City didn’t look at certain players as being particular weak links eg Xhaka and Mustafi.

With that in mind why did Arteta convince Xhaka to stay only to drop him a short time later and then have Mustafi offered a new contract.

The joke of here about Arteta being a fat kid in a sweet shop and not letting players leave has far too much substance to be written off.

Emiratesstroller

Pedro There is a proverb “too many chefs spoil the broth”. Arsenal have at the moment a bloated squad of mediocre players accumulated over many years at inflated transfer fees and in many cases on ridiculous wages and contracts. Moreover the club particularly under Wenger focussed his recruitment on players with more style and substance. We are now at the point where we have a young manager who is being pilloried for what has happened before and unable to invest properly in team unless we can generate revenue which in the case of most of our dross is not going… Read more »

Kaz

Emirates

Are you really so delusional? You really think we who want Arteta gone believe we have a top 4 squad? ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Hahahaha

Globalgunner

Pedro saying “I was wrong but actually I was not wrong”. A blogger can afford the sin of an opinion but not the crime of a religion. The church of Arteta is crumbling before your very eyes. the best thing you can do is quit being a false prophet and return to being an analyst. We can now see that its not all about Laca missing chances, Leno being the lesser keeper or Auba being a footballing god or even Ozil being ostracised. Its about a manager not even knowing what he is doing. The good things happen by chance… Read more »

Kaz

Arteta started off on a clean slate, he’s made more bad decisions than good, he’s already got players giving up on him within a year but you believe the manager is not at fault? ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

Review our wins on the FA Cup, we were outplayed outshot and outpassed.

We had a solid keeper and a super clinical striker and a lot of luck.

That’s it.

Gbat

South African Gooner

Things do change quickly in football. Hasenhรผttl looks to have turned things around at Southampton. Pochettino went from Champions League final to sacked within 6 months. Ranieri went from laughing stock to Premier League winner to sacked within 18 months.

So who do you want in then?

SuperRob

kaz wasn’t you the one who admitted pedro made up your mind about Arteta?

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