Arteta enters the Emeryzone

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Arsenal moved to DEFCON 5. The Redzone. We’re in the jaws of a big fuck-off crocodile, we’ve been pulled into the waters of mid-table, and the death-roll has begun. Not many escape it.

The season feels over before it started. Lots of small bad decisions have snowballed into an almighty avalanche of shite and it’s hard to escape our reality: We are not very good.

The turning point for me was making Arteta the rookie coach into the all-powerful manager. He saw a power-vacuum at a club that lacks leadership and he went for it… he should have been told to fuck off. Instead, Arsenal elevated him because they don’t rate Edu. An embarrassing decision.

It’s amusing because when I broke into advertising after 18 months of trying, my boss at the time quit and my dad told me to apply for his job after 3 weeks of experience. I did. I was literally laughed out the room. A really embarrassing moment in my career, but ultimately, who the fuck did I think I was asking that after 3 weeks?

I was told to fuck off because I worked for strong leaders. We don’t have that under Edu. Arteta was promoted too early and allowed to make terrible decisions right away.

The two biggest?

  1. Trusting players that always let Arsenal down

2. Giving new deals to old players in the hope they had one last job in them

Granit Xhaka was an abomination yesterday. A non-negotiable should be ‘don’t back a rival player over your teammate’, but here we are a week on after the Alioski incident and the slowest plodder in the league had another disaster class in midfield. We should have moved him on this summer.

On this point. Our letdown players seem to have this thing where they’re so comfortable, they feel they can be affronted by competition. Xhaka was good last season, you can’t deny it. Is it any coincidence that he and Ceballos, both dropped for Elneny and Partey, are dropping 2/10s now they’ve been disrespected?

What did AMN do at the training ground that was so bad he can’t contribute to a midfield with the mobility of my 94-year-old grandma three-point turning her trolley in an Aldi shopping aisle?

David Luiz was an incredible player 5 years ago, but we should never have given him a new deal after the season he had last year. That’s on Arteta, he trusted a player that tanked for us on the pitch. He thought £160kish p/w was deserved based on behaviour behind the scenes. Don’t even get me started on how he was allowed to play on like a wounded soldier after a clash of heads that sounded like a car accident.

Auba. Love him. But it is ALWAYS a risk to sign a player based on emotion. He’s 31 years old, we are not a mega club, should we have given him a 3-year deal? An experienced technical director would have said no. Nagelsmann moaned after the Champions League semi-final that he hadn’t been allowed to sign players of that profile. Rightly so. That’s how big swingers act with upstart coaches. Put them in their place.

Back to Auba.

He was nowhere. he looked disinterested. No fight in him at all. It was a pathetic run out that spoke to the bland season he’s been having. He is not a complete striker, which means you need a special type of setup to get the best from him. Namely, wingers that can go past people and find him in the box. We don’t have that.

Willian, an early sub again, after another nothing game. He was never the player we needed. So many people raised the flag on that signing, yet we invested £250k a week on ANOTHER aging player. It looks like a catastrophic signing for a club that is working from the strategy of signing players that look like Champions League level, but are in fact not. Look at the players Wolves sign, generally cheap, always built for the league, better than ours. Can we not compete for these types? £72m for Pepe versus £23m for Jota? Who would you prefer?

Lacazette looks finished at this level. Pepe doesn’t look like he can compete in the Premier League. The kids aren’t good enough and the environment to blood them is absolutely toxic.

Manchester City doesn’t have great strikers, but they have an incredible pipeline of creativity that feeds them.

Spurs don’t have an incredible pipeline, but they have complete forwards in Kane and Son.

We don’t have complete strikers. We don’t have good wingers. We don’t have good midfielders. Slander Arteta all you want, but this squad is built for no manager in the world. It’s a fucking mess.

When all of our players are playing at their peak, we can bumble our way through games. When NONE of our players are putting in a shift, we are fucked. Arteta did really well to get a turn out of them last season, now it seems he can’t.

It’s not all his fault, but it’s hard not to point the finger at him for continuing the bad decisions.

He is a brilliant coach, but a terrible judge of players. I went at people in the summer who said he was conned. I am rethinking that evaluation because it looks like he has been well and truly hoodwinked by a group of players who are built to fail.

The stats after the game made me queezy. We played 36 crosses into the box and only 2 found players. This is peak David Moyes. Is this Steve Round’s contribution to Arsenal? Is that all we have? Arteta is a progressive coach that can’t recognize our striker has no physical presence in a crowded box? How many hip youngsters in the backroom do we need to suss that strategy is a terrible one?

The club won’t sack Arteta. They can’t afford to. Their pride won’t allow it. But he’s now in that territory with a chunk of fans, which is the moment we live in. There are enough bad decisions you can apportion to him for this to be his responsibility. However, we have to be rational. The squad is not built to his specs. There is no manager you’d want that we can afford. It is going to be a massive undertaking to fix this.

The summer is a tipping point for us. The question is, do you have the team in place to deliver the brutality we need? If Edu isn’t the one, are you going to let him lead it and waste more money we don’t have? It certainly cannot be led by Arteta. He’s made too many bad decisions and the extra responsibility has clearly fucked his main focus, which should be coaching.

Here’s an idea. Sign Rangnick. Milan offered him £4.5m a year. That’s peanuts. Give him total power to reshape the club. Heavily bonus him. Set aggressive targets. Demand a premium version of what he offers the RB franchise. Don’t stick it out with people that don’t have a high ceiling. If you have a junior coach, do NOT have a junior technical director. Build a team around his weaknesses, don’t let him choose who he hires, especially if he hires people he likes to have control of the backroom

Address the job roles. We exited a dictatorship only to put ourselves right back into one with someone not ready for it. That is the weakest of all sauces. It’s seasoning your chicken wings with milk. It’s adding sparkling water to your Bud Light because you have meeting at 0830. It’s having an early night at your best mates wedding. We need to get a proper structure in place to fix the club. We need real hierarchy and clearly defined R&Rs. That should start now because we need to save our season. We have boots on the ground, where is the action?

I’m too furious to write about the path forward right now, I’ll bring that tomorrow. But know this, I fully recognize we hit a terrible tipping point yesterday. The slide is on. Arteta looks like a rookie caught in headlights. Maybe worse, he might have been hit by a truck, now he’s limping in the forest and the bears of doom are tracking him. He doesn’t have the infrastructure around him to solve it right now. He needs to call his pals in high places for advice. He needs to get a turn out of his players. He needs to pull off a miracle and get some pride back into the football, if he doesn’t, this is Emery in season two.

He can turn this around though, Ralph Hassenhutl did at Southampton. He lost 10 of his opening 17 last season after 6 months in charge. He conceded 36 goals in the process crowned by a 9-0 defeat to Leicester. This was a coach known for defensive rigour. He turned it around. He summoned the magic, now he looks like a contender to replace OGS. Mikel needs a run like his. Will he find it? Who knows. He needs to shock the system with something electric. Let’s see what he has.

Right, that’s me done. Off to find the bears of doom to see if I can get myself eaten. See you mugs in the comments.

P.S. Double the traffic when we lose? Seems that Arsenal fans like to blog here when we lose whether I’m pro or anti a particular manager. What a bunch of masochists you are.

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Champagne charlie

Weagle I agree, and I think it’s why you’ll maybe see him out the door to get fresh blood after that extension. At 26 he’d be a terrific purchase for us if they’d entertain it at the right price. Anything north of 30-35 mil and we should be walking away though, should only be paying that kind of fee for players like Aouar at 22. Said it before, but I’ve a suspicion the City player most likely to join in the summer is John Stones at RCB after the purge occurs. With 3 CB’s walking away for free, you’re talking… Read more »

Jamie

When Bamford said we beat a bottom 5 side, I think he meant a top 5 side.

Elite power rankings.

WengerEagle

Charlie

Oh Christ, I hope not. CB should be literally our last priority. Not keen on Stones either.

Bernardo is out of our league status-wise, would be a massive step-down that he won’t want to entertain in the prime of his career.

If anyone at Barcelona post Bartomeu had their finger on the pulse and Bernardo was on the market, he’d be their number one target.

Champagne charlie

Weagle

I’m less keen on Holding, and Chambers after a year out. Not saying it’ll be a priority, but we’ll def have have an eye out for that kind of deal I think.

Hopefully Jan throws us someone like Buendia, or Thauvin would be my pick for player that can play as a 10 and down the right. I really love his ability and think he’d stick in England second time of asking.

Zacharse

Saladin

Not that worried if we have tierney gab holding amn as back 4 tbh
More worried about the attack

Has he gone yet?

Damn!! Suppose we might beat a few teams in championship so not all that bad

Elmo

If Pedro wants to lift himself out of the fire and enjoy the comfort of being able to smugly sit on the fence and lecture all sides, he should pivot this blog towards being a personality cult around Tim Lewis, claiming he’s the second coming of David Dein and has all the answers to our problems, but is constantly being thwarted from fixing the club by various bad actors at the club.

Would be a much easier life, while having all manner of internal club conspiracies to explore over a good 4-5 years before having to pivot again.

G8

Dippers had hit & miss with managers..
Souness, Evans, Houlier, Benitez, Hudgson, Daglish, Brenda and finally klopp
Some won trophies too, but they got the chop regardless
Same with the Chavs
I don’t see why we can’t fire and hire until we get it right again!
“Change is good” that was this blog motto not so long time ago!

WengerEagle

Charlie Out of the 8 CB’s that we have: Definitely will be sold/let go- Sokratis, Chambers, Mustafi. Definitely will still be here next season- Gabriel, Saliba, Mari. Leaves Luiz and Holding both of whom have question marks surrounding their futures. I’d be happy for us to keep one and let one go. Would prefer we held onto Luiz as imo he’s a better player as well as what he brings to the table over Holding in terms of leadership, experience, winning pedigree as well as being an important dressing room figure for our Brazilian contingent as well as the younger… Read more »

Zacharse

Pedro
start an onion-style arsenal blog where you just make chris morris-level absurd takes and speculation about arsenal. Clear the decks here without losing traffic. Somebodys gotta do it, arsenal fan tv halfway there

WengerEagle

TYAG

Next day out in Wembley, pencil it into your calendar mate.

Championship Play-Off Final June 2022.

salparadisenyc
Elmo

Zacharse

That already exists: the ITK transfer news cycle, where hundreds of thousands of adults avidly buy into the pronouncements of teenagers making stuff up on Twitter about football transfers while on the bus home from school!

WengerEagle

Sal

And they say that only the foreign boys are at that. Complete myth for the longest time.

Ashley Young was one of the worst divers that I’ve ever seen. Kane and Dele Alli both love taking a tumble too.

Can add Grealish to that club now.

Valentin

If Arteta is still Arsenal manager next September, I would not be so sure that Saliba would be here. Reports in France seems to clearly suggest that bridge between Saliba and Arteta have been seriously burnt down. Desperate, angry, furious are some of the less colourful words used to describe Saliba state of mind.

With Fofana now talked as a possible surprise call for France at Euro 21, there will be a lot of resentment from Saliba toward Arteta.

salparadisenyc

Eagle

Yes indeed, beyond piss take that one. Kane is a specialist, real cunting skill in box. One of the only reasons I like VAR is to potentially nullify these antics. Somehow its fallen short thus far.

But the peak has to be the Italians or the entire Barca side in last decade plus. Iniesta really sold it, trophy stuff. Neymar should watch tape on him..

WengerEagle

Charlie

You watch Rangers a bit, what’s the story with this Tavernier bloke?

On paper he’s a RB but he’s scoring and assisting goals at an outrageous rate. 14 goals and 10 assists already this season and he put up a 17 and a 15 goal season in past years although only 3 last season curiously.

Does he take pens? And if not what’s the tale of the tape on him. 29 years old so no spring chicken.

Champagne charlie

Weagle

That’s what I mean, this summer there’s a nuke going to our CB’s.

Imagine we’ll have Gabriel, Mari, Saliba and Holding/Chambers it’s take your pick. Not thrilled with the last two and Saliba is green. Def an area to look at if possible.

raptora

WE,
Rooney and Vardy hello! lool
It’s mostly the English nowadays.
When a foreigner does it, he gets flogged and marked for life.
When one of their own does it, it quickly gets swept under the carpet and everything resumes like nothing had ever happened.

Remember Oumar Niasse becoming the first retrospectively red-carded player for deceiving the referee. There were multiple cases before him, but were all sweethearts like Kane and Vardy. Remember Kane had to give an interview that he isn’t a diver. And obviously didn’t get punished.

WengerEagle

Sal

Oh how we loved him but Pires was a terrible diver.

Off the top of my head in the all-time flop rankings you have Robben, Drogba [hilarious given what a specimen he was], Nani, Young, Busquets, Suarez, Iniesta, Dele Alli, Kane.

Italians and South Americans have the most infamous reputation for it but there you have it, some nice diversity in that list.

WengerEagle

Charlie

Do you not rate Luiz over Holding/Chambers? Or do you reckon that Arteta will want him gone?

Because he seems to be an Arteta favourite along with Granit.

salparadisenyc

Never saw Pires dive….. no clue as to what you speak of.

Champagne charlie

Weagle

Tavernier is a bit Baines of old, takes corners, free kicks, and pens. Has a good cross on him so his stats are padded, certainly not at the level his numbers suggest.

Tell you what though, Glen Kamara would be such a savvy buy for someone. Tall, athletic, good passer, has verticality to his game. He’ll go for circa 12 mil and will look a steal in the Prem. just turned 25 I think, ex Arsenal academy.

WengerEagle

Sal

Haha.

My favourite ever Drogba post-match interview went along the lines of:

‘Sometimes I dive’…

Two questions later- ‘I don’t dive’.

All said with a straight face. Hilarious.

salparadisenyc

Great list btw, a nice cull of serial offenders, Luca Toni really springs to mind as well. As does Ribery, Marcelo, Di Maria and we’d have to add Gerrard who got dizzy with the slightest hint of contact.

Champagne charlie

Weagle

I do rate Luiz above them, just think he maybe want to get two or three years under his belt back at Benfica or something.

If it were up to me I’d purge the lot except Gabriel, Mari, Luiz, and Saliba. But still I think you need 5 CB’s so when a player like Stones is about for less than 20 mil at 26 I think he becomes attractive. Basically a shitter peak Luiz, great baller who has his moments.

salparadisenyc

Hahaha oh Drogggs what a legend.
No doubt he’ll be President soon, next go around.

WengerEagle

Charlie Ah cheers, yeah figured they were padded stats because even in the SPL they would be unbelievable if it weren’t primarily from set-pieces. Still impressed by them, man has nerves of steel and doesn’t miss them much. Must be some decent players knocking around the Rangers side considering the damage they’re doing in the league and are holding their own in Europe. Morelos is an interesting player as is Kent out wide. SPL carries a bit of a stigma and rightly so to an extent as it’s piss poor compared to the a couple of decades ago but it’s… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Weagle

They’re a good team, better players are who you mention, plus Kamara and Borna Barisic who again would be a very good PL left back.

If we were into anyone it’d be Kamara and Morelos, but think we need creative midfielders

WengerEagle

Raptora Nearly as bad as when he swore on his daughter’s life that it was his goal and not Eriksen’s haha. Fucking hell geezer. Agree with your point, Young is the only English player that I can remember being demonized in the media for his diving and that was a particularly egregious dive itself IIRC. He was a bit part-England player as well, not a flag-saluting, badge thumping favourite like Kane or Rooney too. I’m still bitter about Rooney’s dive against us to win that penalty at Old Trafford 16 years later which ruined us hitting 50 PL games unbeaten.… Read more »

WengerEagle

Sal

Luca Toni and Pippo Inzaghi both loved taking a tumble. Cassano too.

Hard not to love Italian players though. No country has ever produced better defenders or late bloomer CF’s.

Luca Toni, Di Natale, Quagliarella, Graziano Pelle, Miccoli.

And the Brits brag about Vardy.

Anonymous Commentator

I really need an answer from Pedro, how are we supposed to win games with the current setup?
We can’t do smash and grabs anymore cause our defensive patterns have been studied and are now being exploited.
We aren’t going to outscore anyone cause our lads don’t know how to attack anymore.
What exactly is arteta going to do to rectify this that I’m just not seeing?

WengerEagle

Charlie

That’s 20m that could be better spent elsewhere. Potentially get a good midfield player for that if you look in the right players.

In the last year we’ve spent 75m on assembling those 4 CB options, we should at the very least give them a crack of the whip together before going out and bringing in a 5th CB. Use one of the guys from the youth teams if you’re smashed by an injury crisis and need a body.

China1

‘We’ve all been conned by a cone man’

Speak for yourself! I was coned by a conman!!

Champagne charlie

Weagle

Yes and no. I’m just not convinced by Luiz in a back 4 starter is all, but I think whether we go for a RCB will largely depend on what Saliba offers as the year progresses.

Maybe Mari can surprise us all and deliver well enough for him and Gabriel to be a decent pairing while we focus on a rebuild up top?

WengerEagle

Charlie I think that Luiz is still serviceable in a back 4 so long as we have more quality going forward and on the ball which we hopefully actively are looking to rectify with transfer targets. I also would like another CM that fits the same physical profile as Partey does, said earlier that you could do far worse than bring in Anguissa for that. Gifted athlete and line breaker, lovely assist for Lookman today and he’s solid defensively like Partey. Really can play, him and Santi were brilliant for Villarreal in CM last season so imagine a CM with… Read more »

China1

Weagle ofc the odds are already against the goal keeper in a penalty… it’s called a penalty mate lol. It’s a Serious punishment for foul play in the most important part of the pitch. Keepers have a more than sufficient chance of saving a pen without stepping off their line. And the striker can miss it as well. I don’t understand the problem

WengerEagle

Leno, Bellerin, Gabriel, Saliba, Tierney, Partey, Anguissa, De Paul, Thauvin/Memphis, Isco/Draxler, Aubameyang.

And to rotate/bring off the bench: Martinelli, Saka.

That’s a very strong team with plenty of athleticism, ball comfortable players as well as goalscorers and creators.

WengerEagle

China

Look at penalty shoot-outs of times past and you’ll see that the keepers came off their line nearly every time. Never was a problem until VAR came in.

Not saying that they should be allowed to come yards forward or anything but I don’t see the issue with a little forward momentum as they dive. CF should still always score.

Pierre

My analysis of the game v wolves.is that when Wolves had the ball in the first half , we defended on the back foot never on the front foot , consequently we fell deeper and deeper towards our own penalty area. First half , very little pressing or intensity in our play.. When we had the ball in the first half our full backs were much too high, they were more often than not higher up the pitch than Ceballos and Willock who played way too wide leaving the centre of the pitch exposed. This also left us open to… Read more »

China1

Also ET you are wrong to suggest Arteta had no say in transfers when he came in. Just because he was coach and not manager doesn’t mean he wasn’t instrumental in the decision making process. Xhaka has one foot out the door. He was unhappy and the fans had turned on him. Arteta comes in and he’s back in the first team and we turned down the offer. You really think that was Edu or Raul’s idea? The rejection was obviously because arteta wanted him to stay. Likewise Mari was recommended by Arteta because he’d worked with him before. Arteta… Read more »

WengerEagle

But look, that’s pie in the sky I know.

We ain’t bringing in 4 new first team midfielders/forwards for significant fees in a single window.

Just showing what is possible without breaking the bank. We’ve spent 280m in transfers since the time that Emery was appointed as is and so much of it was wasted.

China1

Weagle watch the liverpool vs ac Milan shootout and it was a joke. Dida and whoever was in for Liverpool both abusing that no one stopped them moving forwards. The result was half the penalties were saved The real question is how do you determine what constitutes an but of forward momentum’ compared with ‘moving too far forwards’? It’s impossible grey to officiate. Secondly for what reason do the keepers need help? Like why is it a problem if a penalty heavily favours the attacker? It’s called a penalty man. It’s by definition a punishment! As for penalty shoot outs… Read more »

China1

The only reason anyone even notices or cares about this keepers coming off the line rule is that keepers keep breaking it and getting punished with a retake

If keepers would just follow the rules, all these retakes would disappear and no one would even notice the difference

raptora

Lovely team WE, although I’m not sold on neither of Isco and Draxler after the recent fiasco with Ozil, and Willian. I’d prefer going for younger, hungrier player or in case someone like Bernardo Silva is looking for a team.

I’m just so depressed of the quality of our play at the moment. Shite is so bad that during yesterday’s 36 crosses we made, I thought about Lord Bendtner and how he’d have slotted in at least a couple of the chances. Lord B… Imagine…

Champagne charlie

“An ideal haul for me would look something like Anguissa [30-35m], De Paul [35m], Thauvin/Depay [25m because of contract situations] along with an Isco/Draxler type deal [25-30m].“ So as a basic assessment you fancy a CM, CAM, AM x 2. I’d agree on the needs, just not sure about the wedge we have for those levels, particularly CM. My ideal would be Thauvin in jan for less than 10 mil there and then if they’ll have it, or tied up for the summer on a free. Hungry Dom. Then Aouar as the main catch next summer, with a player of… Read more »

WengerEagle

Haha China fair enough re the punishment. Just think that it’s never been easier to win a penalty as it is now with the daft handball rule and with the line crossing being officiated so strictly by VAR on top of it, it’s given us a penalty goal pandemic. It doesn’t have to favour certain teams for it to be a problem that needs looking at. Nearly everyone agrees that the handball rule needs to be changed and that doesn’t favour anyone in particular, does it? Don’t chalk off perfectly valid goals because a CF’s stud was offside, don’t award… Read more »

WengerEagle

Charlie

It wouldn’t be too outrageous a haul considering we spent 100m on Pepe and Toreirra. Even 3 of those 4 would improve us tenfold.

Depay/Thauvin would be more goalscorers than creators, could swap in a player like Musa Barrow for them too.

If we can’t bully clubs like Bologna [Barrow], Udinese [De Paul], Fulham [Anguissa] and Marseille [Thauvin] than we’re doing something very wrong indeed.

Getting Merino would be a whole lot more difficult than the others imo, he’s really made a name for himself at Sociedad and they’ll likely be a CL club next season.

China1

Weagle yeah we agree the new handball rules are trash. I don’t support those at all and all these new penalties are just some bs way to try and market the PL as more exciting

Couldn’t agree more

WengerEagle

raptora

I always remember that really amusing stat about United under Moyes putting up something absurd like 40 crosses in a game, they were rightly memed for it with lump it into Fellaini being his ethos when they had ball players like Mata and Rooney as well as RVP.

Scary that we’re not far off off of that type of game.

Fair enough re Isco/Draxler although I don’t see why they both couldn’t have a James-esque rejuvenation somewhere where they are appreciated and properly involved. Neither has suffered serious injuries, both are 28 and 27 respectively.

China1

And yeah var is absolutely horrendously misused as well because the officials who are judging it couldn’t officiate a fucking children’s 5 a side game. The entire lot of PL officials could be fired tomorrow and you could replace them with any dick Tom or Harry from the crowd and it wouldn’t get any worse

Awful the lot of them

salparadisenyc

For those speaking of Johnny Depps demise I beg to differ:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_xZGoYU1eg

Champagne charlie

Weagle

Nah, Thauvin is a creator at heart, added a real mean streak in front of goal for a season there but reason he gets the juices flowing is his ability to create, to burst through and find a man with a deft ball. Superb technician, but super smart in terms of football. Basically what I hoped Pepe was.

China1

I always say it but there’s zero reason for any VAR decision to take longer than 30 seconds absolute max. In 30 seconds you can watch the replay from about 3 different angles about 5 times. If you can’t conclusively are what’s happened with that it’s inconclusive and the original decision must stand. These 5 min car reviews are a disgrace. It’s not murder she wrote. It’s really not that complicated. They don’t need to dust for finger prints on the shirt of the guy who went down ffs. Either it’s definitely clear or it’s not. If it’s not stop… Read more »

Dissenter

There’s a that old aphorism in law that ‘ “If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table.”

Anytime Pedro writes about Emery, he’s just pounding the table.

Remember when Pedro used to throw around xGA stats to belittle results under Emery, even an unbeaten run was swatted away? Now that Arteta has neither results nor performance, what next?
For Arteta, it’s down to plain old hopes-dopey blind gait; “if we win” …

Dissenter

* hopey-dopey blind faith

WengerEagle

Great post China that last one, couldn’t agree more. At the very least there ought to be more transparency, they should be mic’d up so we can hear the conversations as they happen in real time. I’ve lost count of the VAR reviews that literally have taken 5 mins. How many times could you have possibly watched a 3 second highlight? If it’s that tough a call to make it ain’t even close to being a ‘clear and obvious’ error. Off the top of my head, Chelsea getting cheated out of a penalty at the death vs Pep’s Barcelona, Henry’s… Read more »

WengerEagle

Charlie

Could adjust it accordingly so.

Anguissa [CM], De Paul [CAM], Isco/Thauvin [Wide playmaker], Barrow/Cunha. [Goalscoring wideman]

Champagne charlie

Weagle

Mate I’m all in. Really need to see us land an influencer this Jan, hard rumours about Buendia so maybe he steps up and provides Hleb-like impact.

Idk how much he’s touted for mind.

WengerEagle

Charlie

Buendia wouldn’t be topping my list but wouldn’t say no to him, had a good season for Norwich last year. Definitely would help out with creativity.

I’m nearly more concerned about finding homes for our bunch than the players that we ought to bring in to be honest.

Shipping Lacazette, Pepe, Toreirra, Xhaka, Kolasinac, Chambers and Holding will be hard as they all still have a couple of years left on their deals.

Won’t be hard to find a home necessarily but to get any sort of return on them?

Champagne charlie

Weagle

He’s topping the championship for creative inputs in fairness, lots of positivity in the ‘pre’ department with him on paper. He’s not my fave, but he’s bare minimum that we should be gunning for at least.

Get him and Hungry Dom and there’s enough sexy there to kick us up the arse in attack I think. Have to put a bit of lipstick on by then to avoid being seen as desperate though.

Champagne charlie

Weagle

Fab Rom saying he expects something special from Arsenal in the Jan window. I’m clinging to that nipple twister for now lol

Sid

‘There’s a that old aphorism in law that ‘ “If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table.”Anytime Pedro writes about Emery, he’s just pounding the table.’

Seems more like supreme leader & diet Pep pounding each other on the table. l😂l

Sid

36 crosses during our game confirms Moyes is Artetas mentor
You can take this to the bank!

Sid

‘We’ve all been conned by a cone man’

Quote of the year, right there!

Sid

The question is once the inevitable happens will he get another manager gig faster than Emery or Wenger?

S Asoa

To all those whomsoever it may concern
( i.e. those advocating full scale clearout )

At 14 place and since 2 nd year of Emery Teams no longer have respect for Arsenal. Arteta too has now a reputation of being nasty and whimsical. So lot of good players will be reluctant to join. It is only the etheraeal wages here that attract.
Therefore in large scale clearout, we might not be able to replenish in time

Guns of SF

Buendia

Dream10

Fabrizio Romano saying expect something “special” from Arsenal in the next window. That probably means an out of favour big name. Isco and Eriksen both fit the bill. Big wage and a low future fee just like Willian and Mkhitaryan.

Guns of SF

Buendia and Isco might be ok for the now and future…
Im done with Aouar… ditch him and go for DS

However, a cheaper option would be loan for Isco and buy Buendia…
Buendia is younger and prem tested… also a more robust player…
plus he is Argentine, we need one in the team

Sid

How anyone went for Willian instead of Buendia is inexplicable

Sid

If Arteta does not make it to seasons end, we should go with Per, who should play the new blood, ESR, AMN, Balogun, Saliba, bring back Guen without favouritsm.

Fresh start.
mix it up with hungry/grafter signings like Buendia, Edouard

Guns of SF

Arteta likes players above age 26 its seems.
What he does with Martinelli will say a lot to me.
The one weapon we have – who is almost match fit… lets see what he does…

Isco, Buendia and Martinelli all on the pitch together would be great to see.
Skill and aggression…. attack mode

Guns of SF

Sid why do you have that picture of Melania as your avatar. I know there is much better ones out there! LOL

Hope you accomplish your mission man!

Emiratesstroller

China 1 I accept the point you made about original loan of Mari in January ie that Arteta wanted to recruit a “left footed” centre back. However, I disagree with your suggestion that he was involved in other transfer decisions at that time. Transfer business was conducted by Raul and Edu with Venkatesham the MD overseeing the financials and Huss Fahmy the contracts. One of the material changes that has occurred this summer is that Arsenal have appointed Tim Lewis as a member of the Board who is a partner at Clifford Chance and I am fairly sure that he… Read more »

Sid

Different folks different strokes

Habesha Gooner

Domink Szoboszlai is one of our top targets it seems. Very good young player. But I dont know if he will fix our creativity situation right now. Aouar is still a target but he wont come in january. Buendia is my choice though. familiar with the league, creative, feisty, can make his own space and has insane defensive stats for an attacker. Rodrigo de paul is also available but he will cost a lot. The rest are probably Eriksen and Isco. Both past their best. We would receive players needing to start over and low on confidence. Both around 28… Read more »

Pierre

It wouldn’t surprise me if it is the same fans that use to complain about Aŕsenal playing “tippy tappy” football and ” trying to walk the ball in the net “back in the day, are now complaining about the number of crosses into the box.. Give me one twos, good movement and intricate play in and around the box any day of the week… Fans use to think that “tippy tappy football” was just for show , it’s not. One and 2 touch football is the best way to beat a packed defence , that style of play is now… Read more »

Daniel Altos

– Wasn’t getting the best out of the youngsters or helping develop anyone. Is this not overwhelmingly true under Arteta too? Exiles Saliba from the team, benches Martinelli when he came in fresh at the start despite him being one of our best performers, benches Nelson and Willock for the most part, the only youngster that he seems to have any time for funny enough is Nketiah who I would argue is our worst. @WE you must be joking….saka was promoted under emery and got plenty of playing time,guendouzi,martinelli even willock…answer this,given arteta’s treatment of martinelli and guendo would he… Read more »

Elmo

Sid
“If Arteta does not make it to seasons end, we should go with Per, who should play the new blood”

We can’t keep throwing our talented ex-players who show potential for the future to the lions just to bridge management gaps due to sackings. Let Per do his work at the Academy, and see how he progresses. No point forcing him to temporarily take the managers job, after which like Freddie you likely lose an important member of the club’s staff as they feel they have to move on.

Pierre

At least the majority of posters now agree with me that the non negotiables and Arteta’s words are just Bullshit. . What i have noticed is that he has toned down the bullshit element in the last week or so and is not looking so confident and the smile has disappeared from his face.. I think he’s feeling the pressure and regretting some of his poor decisions of the past few months . This will only be a good thing for him as he needs to take a retrospective look at the last few months and hopefully he will come… Read more »

Calypso

Pierre

Wenger’s brand of jumpers for goalposts football saw Arsenal knocked out of the Champions league round of 16 knockout stages 7 times in a row.

shaun

Looks like Arteta should have tried the champion ship first for a couple of years as his team looks ok in the europa but absolutely clueless in the prem

shaun

lets hope he can turn things round but what is most concerning and my main worry is that this situation does look like when Emery lost the players and if that’s the case and the people above don’t act then take the piss keano’s comments need to be taken seriously

Valentin

Pierre,

Confidence has ebbed away from him, because he is starting to realise that things are not working and he can’t charm his way out of hard questions with the media anymore.

Journalists are now openly asking him questions about his sacking. Wait a few weeks, when players will know he is a dead man walking and will challenge his authority.

Kesses+gunner

Calypso. There is no shame being knocked by Bayern and Barca after all we are desperate to get back to ucl

Calypso

Losing 10-2 on aggregate to Bayetn is shameful

Has the Benidorm beach bum been sacked yet 😀

Sid

‘We can’t keep throwing our talented ex-players who show potential for the future to the lions just to bridge management gaps due to sackings. ‘

We should stick with guys like freddie/Per/Bergk, intelligent grounded and have worked with academy players just like Barca and RM have with Pep and Zidane.

Or go with Ragnicks students.

Keep off the Allegris, Pochs, and egoists(i can smell them from a mile away) like Arteta, Henry

Calypso

Most clubs if not all clubs would have sacked Arteta by now.

Calypso

What was the point of sacking Emery and replacing him for a man who needs 4 years to turn things around.

Le Sauce
Graham62

ES There is no denying that when Arteta walked into the club, he was taking on a poisoned chalice. A large core of substandard players as well as certain individuals who saw themselves as being more important than the club. My main gripe is that what momentum and positivity Arteta created, based on our Cup success, has been dismantled and, in many aspects, destroyed. There were definite signs that the players were responding and even enjoying what was being done but, inexplicably, Arteta started to change things. The Martinez saga. Taking AMN out of the equation. Persevering with GX and… Read more »

Graham62

Calypso

15-3!!

Graham62

Arsenal are “passive and slow” because the players are bored senseless and demotivated.

Just like us.

Thorough

I have a hypothesis. Removing Bellerin from this team and adding AMN will make us better.
And Tierney should be a left back fffs,not this central defender whos a left back when we’re on the forefront.
Arteta is actually coaching and positioning these players into confusion. Now Ceballos, plays something resembling a right wing back/right winger when we all know he influences the game more from the center.

Can we just do the basics and see where it leads us.

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