Just a quick blog today so we can start a fresh thread of elite comments for the Leeds game.
Mikel Arteta clearly took a pilgrimage to Arsenal Internet and he has been baptised in the knowledge of the fan selection demands.
Joe Willock starts. This game is huge for him. He has the chance to show he’s more than Europa League player.
Auba looks like he’s starting through the middle. Again, this is huge. It’s an acceptance that our best striker should play through the middle and it’s an end to the rein of Lacazette.
Willian gets the nod. Arteta clearly loves the player. He believes form is temporary, class is permanent. He wants to see if he can make his stuttering free transfer rock today.
Nicolas Pepe also gets the nod. The Ivorian is a maverick, he lacks consistency, but deep down, we all hope there’s a rocket man waiting to blow.
I think Saka is being rested. He’s played a lot of minutes and we don’t want to break him.
The only other notable exit is David Luiz. He didn’t make the game-day squad. I think he’s fit. This could be disciplinary action. To my mind, he’s too slow for a game like today, but we will miss his abilities in the build-up.
UPDATE: His wife had a baby. Damn, I just went straight to drama.
So, in short, we have seen a reaction on the line-up, now let’s see if there’s a reaction on the pitch. We need to see high energy, we need to see smart on and off the ball movement, and we need to make some chances.
See you in the comments.
It’s all over for Arteta, the players have binned him. Remember that 2 2 against Watford when they had 31 attempts on goal. Well it was 24 today against a team 15th in the league. Arteta is a massive, serial bullshitter. So out of his depth it’s embarrassing. This club I’d sliding to championship football fast.
TR7
If we continue on the path of 8 hrs without a goal in open play then Arteta will fully deserve his sack.
You don’t need another window to solve the overly cautious and unimaginative malaise that’s been fostered on the club.
Art out
Samesong
I don’t for 1 second think he’d join us but if it were to happen how long do you think it would take the Pooooooooooooooch to get us playing better?
You can answer in matches or minutes played!
“I’m longing for players who allow us to play at an elevated level and are a higher quality than our current play. Yes, how foolish of me.You on the otherhand are jerking off to everything Arteta does and says, never seen such brown noser.“
No you’re literally longing for Torreira, Guendouzi, and Ozil.
I’ve said numerous times we need to replenish the actual quality that’s been purged the last two years. Your Aouar’s, Hungry Dom, Thauvins of the world.
Mesut fucking Ozil as the answer is peak. You’re elevated alright.
CC Torreira was continually played out of position, played as an upfield harrasser which was not his strong suite. Surprise surprise, it didn’t work. Lampard finally plays Kante at his best position and Chelsea look like a better team, Same issue with Torreira. Guendozi was partnered with the pathetically shit Xhaka and had to do the running around for both of them, of course he got pissed off. Both players are much better than what we got tonight. Partey with Torreira is fucking quality, Simone himself wanted it, he was gushing to himself about how he was going to line… Read more »
Diss
He won’t let the players play
Micro managing every fucking move…
He’s a dictator not a manager
Arteta won’t get sacked even if he finishes midtable.
The noose will be waiting next season if he doesn’t turn it around by then.
And turning it around is not too strong a term either.
It’s clear that this team are not really enjoying their football. It all looks like a bit of a chore for them and that is not a good sign.
Somehow Arteta has got to get this team actually looking like they enjoy playing.
You can answer in matches or minutes played!
3 matches.
Samesong
Really?
I was thinking about 35 minutes.
CC
I’ve been gushing about Szoboszlai long before you started posting his name.
So don’t tell me what you think I say. You have no idea, all you do is swallow the official club stance and argue with anyone with differing opinions.
Marc
You were championing Emery on here so you don’t get to comment on the present management.
Pierre was saying that Arteta will get the win when he needs to.
Well he didn’t get the win today. And he will break Saka soon.
Ishola
Despite the excuses on here we have some good players.
Tierney, Saka, Martinelli, Auba, Partey, Gabriel, you’ve then got Saliba who was rated enough for the Spud’s to be in for him as well.
Outside of Auba who’s age and wage level would deter interest – how long before clubs start looking at these players and how long before they want to leave?
I was thinking about 35 minutes.
LOL
We have gone backwards .art could be a good manger … But he needs to let the players .be players on the pitch .
Granted
He has done wonders with the defence tho..
Just needs saliba
We play like individuals not a team.
Brighton looked compact, lively and positive.
We look laboured lethargic and negative.
It’s the coach he trains them he picks them, and then coaches them from the sideline.
They seem uninterested
prvhc
Don’t think this present Arteta situation can’t get to what ultimately unfolded with Emery.
If he is obviously failing in the EPL the FA Cup and Charity Shield isn’t going to help him.
He is most likely going to be given time but if things don’t move on by some distance by next season he will go the way of Emery.
prvhc
Not true – I said I’d give him a chance and if you went back to the International Break last year you’d see comments by me saying he had to go.
Arteta’s had 29 PL matches plus cup games with a stronger squad and it’s getting worse.
Oh yeah I’ll comment on anything I fucking want – the only person who gets to make that decision is Pedro and I’d happily remind him that the pitch of Le Grove used to be “where you can have an opinion not get one”
” .Arteta stopped the sale of Xhaka for £25 million – that could’ve bought a good player.
He turned down a bid for AMN who can’t get a look in.
He turned down a bid for Laca.
He sent Torriera on loan.
He sent Miki on loan.
He ostracized Guendozi”
You call that a list of errors.. Lol
Marc
“Outside of Auba who’s age and wage level would deter interest – how long before clubs start looking at these players and how long before they want to leave?”
Of course they will move on if the club doesn’t progress.
Think back to the start of Arteta’s reign. We played exciting, energetic and exhilarating football at home to Chelsea and Man Utd. I am not convinced that Arteta does not know hot to get a tune out of this team, he just needs to go back to what we were doing then, it looks way off now however. In the context of Pepe’s brain dead sending off, a point isn’t a bad result, but it’s also fair to say we were poor before that happened. We are stuck in a place where we must continue to give Arteta time, but… Read more »
When is Martinelli fit, he walks straight back into this team.
Auba’s confidence is shot but to be fair he is getting jack created for him.
Unless we bring in a creator in January we are absolutely in a world of the deepest shite fest imaginable!
Evans with a Pepe there. Lol
@CC I’ve said numerous times we need to replenish the actual quality that’s been purged the last two years. Your Aouar’s, Hungry Dom, Thauvins of the world. Mesut fucking Ozil as the answer is peak. You’re elevated alright. That is all for next season, however you have to deal with what is on hand now. To not give a squad number yo Ozil for this season is criminal especially since you know the creative midfield is none existing. Ozil is not the problem solver nor the future, with Partey doing the defensive part he is more creative then anything else… Read more »
Why doesn’t that happen for us Evans own goal.
Liverpool 1 up.
Marc
I was being sarcastic in my last two posts, in case you.missed it.
We’ll get the same.talking points I listed from Pedro anyway.
G
Not sure if you’re saying they weren’t errors or if the term “error’s” is far too polite?
“So don’t tell me what you think I say. You have no idea, all you do is swallow the official club stance and argue with anyone with differing opinions.“ I’m repeating what you’ve said, and it’s literally written above. You’re talking bollocks when it comes to what I say though because that’s the typical chatter that occurs on here. I wanted CM addressed this summer, it wasn’t. I’ve been talking about the need for replacing Santi, Jack, Rambo for two years, we haven’t. I said the second Auba signs that Laca needs sold, Auba moved central, and a creative wide… Read more »
prvhc
No didn’t realise – my sense of humour is struggling at the moment.
I blame Pedro.
Despite my reservations initially I have allowed Pedros rhetoric and enthusiasm for Arteta to convince me I can be optimistic about the future of Arsenal football club. Now I look at us and we are totally unrecognisable as a footballing side and there are lots of issues that are Artetas own doing. Guendouzi – was the worlds most promising CM a year ago. Now ostracised and worth a fraction of what he was. All for being a bit bratty. Saliba – loan move ballsed up and can’t use him in euro matches. Ozil – I hate the cunt but what… Read more »
Arsenal can’t be languishing in midtable or just above or not even giving a proper challenge to top four.
Not even for saucy young Teets.
If Arteta doesn’t cut it from here on in going into next season Arsenal will have to roll the dice yet again and it will be goodbye saucy and thanks for that FA Cup.
Arteta will be gone by January. That was a very frightening display from players who straight up dont care. He’s fucked and he knows it.
Not really sure what would be the excuse this time.
I am #ArtetaOut already
Oh and the whole ‘keep martinellis feet on the ground’ by benching him fir Eddie.
Let him fly Ffs.
It is depressing watching us slide further down the league.
Arteta today looked clueless.
Willian off at half time,Putting Saka on when he must be in the red zone.
Today putting three passes together was an effort, we panicked by just kicking the ball aimlessly upfield to Mr Nobody. It was shambolic .
Arteta is winging it , he’s now found out that management is not easy, and Peps ideas don’t work at Arsenal.
CC
You’ve got a short memory unable to think back to previous posts clearly, obviously why you now deny defending Xhaka so hard.
You revise what you think you’ve said so many times it’s actually funny.
No comments regarding Torreira now though ey? Didn’t think so.
Continue being the clown of the blog 😉
If Leeds had an on form striker, they would have cruised that 3-0. The number of chances they created, and that was even against 11 men. Why do we look so turgid. Leeds had something like 65% possession. Apart from Saka and Tierney, it is hard to see any great spirit or desire in this jumbled patchwork of a side. Is Mikel a Spanish Southgate in disguise – all talk, earnest deployment of tactical formations and eternal promises of jam tomorrow? The schoolteacher with all the theory and none of the practice.
Our form guide at the moment is 4 points from 15 with 1 scored and 5 conceded.
Sorting out the defence isn’t really doing it for me.
If we loose the next two games should Arteta get the push, or do we wait until it gets beyond salvation
Come on, it’s obvious. Anyone who has worked in the real world and listened to an Arteta interview. The guy is a serial lying bullshitter.
Guernsey
The scary thing is he might actually believe his own bullshit.
It’s over for so many players, manager, board and club.
Turn out the lights, we’re done.
Marc, yep, he’s in that I’m great mode. Everyone else sees him for the slick talking bullshitter he is. Dark times for the club I live.
Fraudeta will not leave in January because any new manager will not have the time nor AFC the money to start a rebuild and new playing philosophy. However at the end of the season it will be a different matter. New manager new start and more hopes for decent football by AFC after this shit show has ended. 9 games and yes I am writing this season off because of what I have seen from the AFC manager and the football the club is playing. Take it easy on Pedro tomorrow he is suffering just as much as we are… Read more »
Love.
Is SpanishDave The former CG?
MD
Ain’t gonna happen – I wonder if Pedro is reading the comments?
Of course he is!
Danny
Not even close – Dave is a good guy – CG is completely lala.
It would however be amusing to have CG back on here this afternoon – he’d bum fuck Pedro to death over whats going on at the moment.
EmiratesstrollerNovember 22, 2020 18:49:55
Thank you goodnightPlease stop blaming the Manager. Our poor performance is down to the performance of the players.
ES shame on you…it’s now the player’s fault?I have followed auba from Dortmund and he has played under more than 10 different managers,which other manager has managed to make auba look this useless?The captain had like 4 fooking touches in the first half ffs and you are telling me the manager is not to blame?
Spanish Dave knows his onions. Arteta is a bullshitting fraudster. Factoid.
When arteta arrived we pressed really hard. I remember watching the Chelsea game thinking we are onto something here! The talent was poor but we could see a vision. We also played out from the back and had clever movement for our wing backs and midfielders.
Fast forward and we allow teams the ball and have resorted to hoofing long balls down the channels. No running from midfield and bellerin just let’s players go past him time and again.
This is really bad now. We have no identity with the ball
WE,
Are you watching?
“You’ve got a short memory unable to think back to previous posts clearly, obviously why you now deny defending Xhaka so hard.“
I’m not denying that I’ve defended Xhaka previously, I absolutely have because he’s been scapegoated numerous times. I’m dismissing your bullshit claim that I’ve suddenly changed my tune on him.
You’re now trying to shift goal posts because that’s what your type revers to after making ridiculous claim after another.
Stick to one and own it.
My fave is how we’re Ozil away from free-flowing glorious football. Tell that story again.
The tire old rim crew on here. Utterly fucking depressing.
MD-GUNNER ” To not give a squad number yo Ozil for this season is criminal especially since you know the creative midfield is none existing. Ozil is not the problem solver nor the future, with Partey doing the defensive part he is more creative then anything else in the squad now. That is the opinion of many other pundits and ex Arsenal players. ” Couldn’t have said it better myself…. How they all celebrated on Le Grove when Ozil was left out of the squad….i would say that 70% of those are having 2nd thoughts about Ozil and would love… Read more »
CG I am not, I have been a fan for a very long time..
I do not like being rude and just enjoy good banter .
You guys are real fans and like me love the club.
We want our Arsenal back, good exciting football and a few goals!
Arteta is not the man to do it
Where are the idiots that thought Jota was overpriced?
Brilliant signing always was.
EmiratesstrollerNovember 22, 2020 19:14:30 Thank you goodnightIt is not excuses but fact. We have a mediocre and unproductive midfield and that has been the problem over two seasons. Collectively Xhaka, Guendouzi, Ceballos and Torreira who have been the mainstay of our midfield over last two seasons have produced offensively nothing.I doubt that there is a manager on the planet who would get that bunch would improve us under a different manager. This is switching of goalposts. Werent we told that these players needed coaching to get the best out of them?Was torreira even given a fair chance under arteta?Same with… Read more »
Some Arsenal fans are a joke. Calling for the managers head after battling for a point with 10 men for the second half?
Some cunt saying he’s lost the players? You don’t battle to a point like that if you’ve lost the players.
Under later AW and Emery as soon as we went down to 10 the game was finished. Not anymore. We’re solid and hard to beat but the flair and goals will come.
We would have done Leeds 11 v 11 they always gas out 2nd half.
“I’m not denying that I’ve defended Xhaka previously, I absolutely have because he’s been scapegoated numerous times. ”
So when a few of us were saying he’s a terrible player and we should get rid of him we were wrong but now we should get rid of him because he’s not good enough?
Beginning to think Cc’s got a mild case of the Troll’s – takes the opposite stand just to cause an argument.
Ashburton the spud cunt out again. You’re fooling nobody you sad bastard.
” You’re fooling nobody you sad bastard.”
You’re only marginally better – the only person you are fooling is yourself.
Pierre, as boring as AFC may be playing right now that pales into insignificance compared to your mind-numbing Ozil trolling.
Marc
That clearly isn’t what I’ve said, or am saying.
Only one trolling is you with your Debbie routine and embarrassing fixation with Xhaka.
You have to wonder how seriously Arsenal take football. I believe it goes right back to the 8-2 at OT. The club lost its heart and soul, their whole reason for being, and Wenger’s response to it was as casual as you like, no shame, no personal apology, and absolutely no accountability, just a couple of £10m has-beens, a useless winger he tried to shoo-horn into left back, and a player we didn’t need on loan. All of that shit, as well as resting his whole seasons outcome on the young inexperienced shoulders of 18 year old Jack Wilshere. That… Read more »
Sunday football is saved, watching now a decent game Napoli vs AC Milan. very inexpensive in the US only $50 per year for ESPN+ including Biundesliga, Seria A and all the cup games in the different countries, Rugby plus a decent Football show. Seria A to the rescue for a terrible Sunday so far.
Zlatan just scored a goal in every Seria A game so far, and AFC has what 🙁
Ozil could put the ball on a sixpence
This is something my dad would say and he’s in his sixties. Pierre is in his 60’s
Jotta looking like a really decent player. Power pace skill. He’s got a bit of everything.
Whatever you think of our squad they are better than no goals from open play in 8 hours.
They are not enjoying their football and that’s the managers job, to make professional footballers happy to play the game.
We are not even defending that well to justify the rubbish in the attacking third.
mmm Ozil is a setpiece king as well now.
Never knew that.
SuperRob
Don’t agree.
Pierre
This has nothing to do with Ozil.
We were progressing until Arteta started to change things.
The Ozil of 2020 is finished.
Suck it up.
CC Being pedantic to win Internet points doesn’t really work. You skip the main talking points because you have no response but focus on the wording on a sentence to springboard off of instead. Ozil in the team = more fluidity and more chance creation. Not total free flowing football. Happy now? Ass. Now tell me more about how you think Torreira is bad player for being played out of position most the time. Tell me how despite Simone himself wanting to partner him with Partey it is stupid of me to want to have Torreira back next season with… Read more »
CC
He wasn’t scapegoated, he was shit.
Kaz
The so-called big taking points aren’t worth it with you because you’re literally offering up Torreira, Guendouzi, and Ozil to return as the answer.
Just illiterate and ignorant bullshit from a ten pence cunt online
This line broke the internet for me. CC at his best LMFAO
Cc
Have no idea what a Debbie’s supposed to be. You spent months telling and Ishola we were not only wrong on Xhaka now you want him out.
As for fixation – I look at the players some are OK, some are good and some are bad – then you have Xhaka.
As to how I’m trolling? Is someone trying to deflect.
CC
Yeah didn’t think you were capable enough.
MarcNovember 22, 2020 20:04:50 “I’m not denying that I’ve defended Xhaka previously, I absolutely have because he’s been scapegoated numerous times. ”So when a few of us were saying he’s a terrible player and we should get rid of him we were wrong but now we should get rid of him because he’s not good enough?Beginning to think Cc’s got a mild case of the Troll’s – takes the opposite stand just to cause an argument. @Marc I dont know why you and other people waste time with CC . I started commenting on Legrove just last year but I… Read more »
Marc
CC revises so many things he’s said it’s funny.
His memory clearly isn’t great so he can never remember what his original posts were. But it’s the rest of us who keep shifting goal posts 🙄
Fuck ,me there’s a cunt on here who thinks shipping 24 attempts against the team who are 15th is good.. what a clueless fuck kunuckle.
Marc
Deflect from what?
You’re attributing a pov to me that I’ve not said whatsoever. If you’re going to even begin to talk about trolling and being contrarian just to argue, you maybe want to start with the very basics and talk about what someone else actually fucking says – not your own made up nonsense.
I don’t want Xhaka out, haven’t said that at all. I’ve no issue with him being sold, as is the case with literally any player, but I certainly wouldn’t start there for reasons I’ve made clear numerous times.
When you watch what Kroos does for Real Madrid playing in the same area for them as Xhaka has been playing for Arsenal for going on four seasons it is truly embarrassing the gulf between them.
Truly embarrasing.
Kaz
You clearly weren’t on here when I had the row with him about what percentage of PL goals in Henry’s first season were before Christmas – he said half and when he was showed he only scored 4 he wouldn’t let it go.
It went almost half, well it was 40% to almost 40% and so on for hours.
Arteta is a shit coach wbo has zero man management skills.
He should be saying shit like he is a good lad, I did not see it or some other deflecting shite. To hang Pepe out in public is piss poor even if it’s true. You need to keep the spirit strong, not undermine your own.
Sooner he leaves the better.
Samesong
I’ve been behaving remarkably well for months, but reading some of the patter of the last 15 mins I’m strongly considering reverting to type.
Apparently Arteta doesn’t have the attack he wants according to Miguel Delaney
All other coaches in English football have exactly the players they want except Arteta, explains the no goal from open play in 8 hours.
I am relieved now, its gonna be okay once he has what he wants.
Arteta doesn’t have to defend Pepe.
Enough have seen that Pepe has issues and not just today.
CC
Quoting Billy Butcher doesn’t make you cool.
Not happy with the performance today. Embarrassing we struggle in every single game, no matter the opposition.
No wonder Freddie played the kids in his last game, these first teamers are a joke. Arteta deserves until the end of the season…But so far the process isn’t inspiring. Of course he was left with a terrible squad with a terrible attitude, so I’m not sure if he can take the majority of the blame.
This is down to Kroenke and Wenger leaving the club in a mess.
Cc
So you don’t want Xhaka out?
Are you saying he’s good enough and should be a mainstay of our midfield?
RH
“Apparently Arteta doesn’t have the attack he wants according to Miguel Delaney”
Full of shit the written media and journos.
Startling to think there are some that hang on every word from them.
Marc
😂😂😂
That sounds exhausting and totally not surprising.
Arteta does have to defend Pepe. It’s his job. He can ball him out in private, but in public it needs to be one team.
He did the same thing with Guen and he did it in his press conference when he squealed about finding the mole. Bullshit style. He should be deflecting and playing down the issue not giving sticks to pricks to beat us with…
@RH
😂😂😂
“Apparently Arteta doesn’t have the attack he wants according to Miguel Delaney”
Then why did he turn down a bid for Laca?
Don’t tell me he doesn’t have the midfield he wants either – good job he didn’t stop Xhaka and AMN leaving for a combined £45 odd million then.
. Marc FaberNovember 22, 2020 20:24:12 Arteta is a shit coach wbo has zero man management skills.He should be saying shit like he is a good lad, I did not see it or some other deflecting shite. To hang Pepe out in public is piss poor even if it’s true. You need to keep the spirit strong, not undermine your own.Sooner he leaves the better Spot on …I wrote the same thing on twitter. Yes Pepe was a cunt today but its basically being turned to being his fault for the loss now. Wenger would at least say he didn’t… Read more »
Kaz
It was surreal – really strange.
Faber
No he doesn’t need to defend him when he has obviously had problems with the guy before today.
The player is fucking annoying with his mental deficiencies and lack of character.
What happened today is most likely the finall straw for Arteta regarding Pepe.
My defence of Pepe would of been Pepe should not have done that with his head but the Leeds player went down like a cunt!
To say what Pepe did was wrong and unacceptable in the post match interview is in my view OK – we have standards and this wasn’t them.
To say he let the team down – just think that’s something you say in private.
Wenger always (rightly or wrongly but I agree with it mostly) was praise individually criticise collectively.