Chink in the Arsenal armour exposed by leaks

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Welcome to Saturday my darlings, what have we on the frying plate today?

Well, we might as well continue talking about miserable things because why not.

I think one of the sub-narratives of the mess that we’re in at the moment is leadership at the very top of Arsenal.

We’re still in a very messy era. There are some very positive things going on at the club, but there a number of things that still don’t quite sit right.

The death of Don Raul last summer saw some pretty decisive moves. We used the cover of the pandemic to move on a lot of underperformers. Our scouting network was obliterated and we canned Huss Fahmy just a few weeks ago. Lots of positive moves, but we didn’t quite cut to the bone where we needed to, and I think the blunt knife we used in some areas might be problematic.

One of the least surgical decisions we made, almost immediately, was to promote Mikel Arteta to manager. The first sniff of ‘rock star’ and we caved.

On paper, it’s not a big deal. Coaches fuss about it. Pochettino went from wearing fancy threads to rolling with a tracksuit when he felt he wasn’t being listened to.

‘I might as well be coach’

It’s a power thing. When you are a coach, you take what you are given and you make it work. When you are a manager, you are in control of more things. Now, I don’t know what Arteta’s remit is inside the club, but it’s certainly not just coaching.

I would imagine on the face of it, the decision was the fairly logical view: Arteta knows what good looks like, let’s give him a bigger remit to make good elsewhere.

For me, this was a bad move. In advertising, if you are an elite creative, there’s making the work, then there’s everything else. You want your best creatives focused on making the work. Not fussing over structure, recruitment, and PDPs.

We promoted someone before they’d really done something. Arteta should be focused on the work, not the PDP for the new Gunnersaurus. This move set a tone we’ve seen before.

‘Trust in the manager’

We spend 10 years trying to escape the clutches of a manager that filled the power vacuum in the mightiest of ways. At least Wenger had won 3 league titles before things got out of hand.

The most worrying thing about the current structure is it was put in counter weaknesses we have elsewhere in our football leadership team.

This is Tony Adams last week.

“I think it got lost, this one, in the transition of the chief scout at Arsenal going out.

“He was spotted very early on, not by me, by the Arsenal recruitment office.

“The chief scout was absolutely bowled over by him and the great prospect that he is.

“He had more or less done the deal, but at that moment the new sporting director Edu came in from Brazil and had no European experience and no UK experience.

“I think it got lost in the transition, Edu didn’t know nothing about this player.”

Maybe we could give Edu a pass on Bellingham because of Raul. Maybe we could ignore our old scouts crying in the press because let’s be honest, their taste levels had been wide of the mark for about a decade (Park, Perez, Asana, Jenkinson, Yaya, Ryo, Campbell). What you can’t ignore is the fact Adams is being very pointed in his attack here.

He is saying these things because there’s weakness in the Arsenal armour and a lot of people know it and talk about it. Vinnai put Arteta on the same level as Edu, not because Arteta is a god, but because they are picking up slack for the questionable tenure of Edu so far. Expect more stories like the one from Adams to creep out of the next 6 months.

Leaks are always strategic. Follow the money. No one ever leaked against Arsene because he was literally seen as a god at Arsenal and player, agents, and coaches knew that there was no way to ever remove him. A direct attack from a legend is not good, especially when the same person was full of compliments for Arteta the week before. People know the regard Arteta is held in, they don’t fear ramifications of crossing the Technical Director.

That said. Arteta should not be on the same level as the Technical Director. That’s not how it works. Leadership structures are there for a reason. You need clarity when it comes to R&R. Someone always needs to be the boss. There has to be someone that makes tough decisions. Not every conversation can be a negotiation.

If we had Luis Campos or Ralph Rangnick running Arsenal, do you think either would have sanctioned the deal on Willian this summer? Absolutely not. Do you think Arteta would have lobbied for the deal? Absolutely. But strong leadership would have seen that sort of signing as unacceptable at a club that has haemorrhaged cash consistently over the last 5 years.

Arsenal should have stripped back this summer, made themselves lean at the cost of short term success, then built back better. We didn’t. We are still the same bloated monster we were last year. We simply prolonged the same failed football strategy we’ve been working to since 2017 when we chased Top 4 by topping up on expensive players that weren’t quite right.

A strong Technical Director would have said, ‘look, we have been hit hard by poor investments over the past 5 years. We’re going to fix it. We ripped out the scouting desk. We’re prioritising elite young players we can grow. If we’re buying senior players, they’ll need to have resale value. We installed a young developmental coach for the longterm, he will grow with the players.’

Instead, we’ve found that horrible half-space where we semi-go at being a big club. You sign a big player, but you only land one. You sign a player that does what you need… but probably way better 6 years ago. You miss out on a creative talent altogether.

None of this is to say that we haven’t made some good signings. Thomas Partey and Gabriel were laser-focused, elite, and they solved actual problems we’ve had for years. The point of the post is that if we truly believe in creating a high-performance culture, we have to make sure the leadership structure is correct. We cannot have precocious talent unfocused during the formative years. We cannot drag deadweight. We cannot shirk making difficult decisions.

I don’t have all the information on Saliba. I know mostly why he didn’t make the squad this year. What I don’t understand is why the situation has been so messy. The player has a good profile in Europe, he started training with Arsenal well before preseason started, it must have been clear that he wasn’t right this year. So where was the loan move? We have a loans manager? Now, it could have been many things. The player might not have wanted Brentford, West Ham, or whoever the club was. It might have been the club felt they needed to build him physically. It might have been a late problem with St Etienne. Whatever it was, it looks like a fuck up. Now the narrative has been lost to the fans and it’s an unwelcome grey cloud that is arguably more toxic than Ozil.

What I think you should watch for is whether Vinnai makes moves next summer. Is he a ruthless operator, or is he passive like Ivan Gazidis. The simple truth is this: If Edu were the Technical Director we believed he was, he wouldn’t have taken a demotion this summer. If I were Edu, I’d have resigned on the spot at the disrespect. Sadly, we live in a world where only the good people take news like that with a smile on their face.

Anyway, there’s not a lot that can be done right now. I still firmly believe we’ll fix the problems. There’s a way to unlock our attack and the sign of a good young coach is how they deal with adversity. The good thing is that we’re in our adverse moment now and we’re only 6 points off the top of the league. We either solve it like Wenger did in his early career, or we flunk, and we have an Emery moment. If we find a run like we did last year, all this drama will be forgotten… but we really need to fix up fast. Poor in attack, a press that has lost intensity, and boring football… a lot of fixing.

Over to you, Mikel.

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Dan

We took positive steps in bringing in Gabriel and Partey, and with the likes of mustafi and ozil contracts ending this year, we were in a better position, but then went and gave contracts to willian, Cedric, and Mari. One step forward, two steps back. Now they are the new dead wood.

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So wait… I’m a little confused here. It’s Edu’s and whoever he reports to fault that Arteta signed Willian? Sorry, Peds, but our genius of a manager should’ve known better himself. The likes of Willian, Soares, Mari should’ve never been signed. And the likes of Xhaka, Lacazette, and perhaps a few others should’ve been shipped out. That’s on Arteta. He wanted those guys, and he got them. Now it’s up to him to make things better and to have those guys mentioned above perform at a higher level. Should he fail, he will be asked certain questions and perhaps will… Read more »

shad

Good post Pedro. Well balanced.

Arteta really has to mix it up, and stop micro managing. If he isn’t careful he’ll get burnt out fast and a club as impatient as ours won’t have handkerchiefs in wait.

Marc

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Marc

Pedro

So it’s war then?

Tom

I guess I’m in minority here but I don’t mind Arteta’s bigger decision making role personnel wise. At least if he fails it won’t be because “he never got his players “ in.

There isn’t anyone at the club with a track record of having built a successful team anywhere before anyway, so might as well give Arteta enough rope…….

shad

The scouting network didn’t die to keep geriatrics on fat contracts. Arteta has to fall on that sword himself. His case is not made better when you hear rumours of Mustafi being offered a new deal with Saliba not even making the Europa League squad.

Marc

Pedro

On a serious note – good piece. The real concern is if you take your comments one step further – Edu isn’t right for the role and is removed next year or whenever. We then look to bring in the right person but he expects to be above the manager you’ve then got a situation where you’re talking about effectively demoting Arteta or having to fill the role with someone who isn’t up to the job.

Just when we seemed to be getting some of the structure sorted we’ve sabotaged ourselves.

Marc

shad

The rumours about a sizable offer for Laca when he only had 2 years left on his contract don’t help.

Nelson

Just read that Son Heung-min forced to quarantine as four South Korea teammates test positive for Covid-19. He is awaiting test himself…

shad

@Marc,

If we aren’t careful, we’ll end up signing Broke Back Källström and Yossi Benayoun to inject some pace on the flank..

Kaz

Weren’t you praising the ‘Arteta is a manager now’ shtick not so long back?

Regardless, if he can finally release the handbrake and start setting the team to attack then good.

I still think he gets sacked end of the season as we aren’t finishing top 6.

shad

If this is the litmus season where Arteta is expected to getaway with murder, he definitely needs to loosen up on the defensive pragmatism front and give the attack much more freedom. I honestly want to see more of the kids play, who knows, one could come good. With the games coming in thick and fast, can we see more ESR, Balogun, Azeez, Moller..what do we have to lose by trying them? Nketiah, Nelson and Willock aren’t exactly pulling down trees.

Marc

Nelson

Spud’s have got City next Saturday evening. Mourinho will go fucking mental and for once it’ll be hard not to agree with him.

Words+on+a+Blog

Pedro,

Not convinced that Edu is the problem.

And if he is, he’s a medium term or a long term problem.

The immediate issue is for Arteta to sort out his tactics and our attacking play against “tier 2” teams.

If Indeed he is a problem, Edu is one for Stan and Vinai to resolve In the long term.

shad

“I still think he gets sacked end of the season as we aren’t finishing top 6.”

Bold prediction. I think he’ll be “demoted” back to coach and a DoF brought in to handle the business side of things. Think the FA Cup has leveraged him an extra season, and he really needs to come correct next summer.

Kaz

You’ve seen our games this season right? Shad 😂

I don’t see us getting in the top 6 at all and I don’t see the Kroenke’s keeping him around barring a Uefa win.

Marc

WOAB

Arteta getting the tactics / balance right is an everyday problem.

Having a structural imbalance doesn’t look as important but needs sorting just as urgently – Edu needs to be making sure the right targets are lined up, players contracts are being overseen properly and getting players out the door we don’t want.

shad

@Kaz,

Our football is shyte but Arteta is fortunate there are no crowds in the stadium. I get where you are coming from because unlike Emery, he had a good pre-season and a full on summer to get the ins and outs required (especially outs) of which he’s bungled. Let’s see whether he will switch up the play and where we’ll be in March.

andy1886

Funny how when I questioned last summer how much Edu would know about current European footballers I was shot down by the knee-jerk posititivas who claimed that of course he would, his Brazilian players played in Europe. Thought that it was bollocks then and seems that it was.

Truth be told we haven’t had an executive team that could tell a good player from a crap one for years. We’ve got lucky with one or two but overall our transfer dealings have been awful.

Champagne charlie

The actors involved need more than a Covid riddled half-summer with Don Raul exiting the stage to prove their worth.

The issue at the club right now is Arteta delivering, that’s the pressing question, not Edu, or Vinai, or anyone else.

Kaz

I think Edu is getting blamed for things Arteta wanted.

Edu overruled him to get Partey and rightly so, probably got us Gabriel and Willian isn’t shite he just isn’t getting the game played to his strengths.

James wood.

Things in and outside of the club will feel a lot better
I’m sure when Gunnersauruses best mate finally moves
on.

Words+on+a+Blog

The other thing is that we’ve had several summers of structural and personnel changes in management and backroom staff and this summer has seen a pretty brutal restructuring.

I think it’s high time to pause from playing musical chairs with management and backroom staff and focus on what’s happening on the pitch.

Kaz

Fair enough Pedro, I wasn’t sure precisely so didn’t want to go too dip down that line of thought.

Valentin

Pedro, You may be right in that Edu does not have the experience and character to be a successful DoF at Arsenal. However there are still many things solely Arteta’s responsibility that obviously are not working. Edu may not have been able to seal the right deals but Arteta is still the one having Auba on the left wing and Willian as a false 9. Strangely the new narrative is that it is all Edu’s fault, when the noise that I have heard is that Arteta is impossible to work with. Dither, change his mind, refuse to compromise. That stubbornness… Read more »

Kaz

Didn’t want to dip too far down that line of thought*

I cannot multitask. Christ that was a sentence cock up.

Captain Tierney

Great Post.
Lets just stop with the 6 points narrative. We are only 8 games in the season.
Imo theres no point in looking at the table at least until 15 matches are done and dusted.

Marc

Pedro

“Shad, I don’t think he’ll get demoted, but I think at some stage, we’ll hire a technical director that is rightly put over the top of him.”

Do you think Arteta will accept that?

“he wouldn’t have taken a demotion this summer. If I were Edu, I’d have resigned on the spot at the disrespect.”

Surely that goes for Arteta as well.

Kaz

I still reckon Ozil and Guendozi questioned him and that’s why they’ve been deemed unplayable.
Big loss for us.

Captain Tierney

Pepe’s touch map.
One of the things that need fixing

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/ju2qm8/pepe_lille_touches_vs_arsenal/

shad

@Kaz,

Not missing Guendouzi but we definitely miss Özil’s guile around the 18 for teams sitting deep. He’d at lest give us one good game every 3 matches, 65min per game.

Champagne charlie

Pedro That’s fair. But I still think everyone involved realistically has next summer as their ‘show and tell’ as far as competency goes. I wasn’t particularly a fan of how things unfolded this summer behind the scenes, but there was a necessity to it so you kind of grin an bear it. I think in a regular summer we absorb that better and maintain firmer grip on the moves both in and out. It wasn’t, and we didn’t, so it all became a bit frustrating. January is a shitty market but maybe we can see a show of confidence on… Read more »

Marc

Cc

What do you mean “address Lacazette”?

Captain Tierney

Rangnick is where the future is at.
Dont think we’ll go for him tho.

Even Monchi’s second stint at Sevilla has been excellent.

Campos is tearing it up at Lille.

And we have Edu+ a loan manager. Botched a loan deal for one of the best young players in the world. They had 2 friggin months to sort it out.
Tho the deals of Gabriel and Edu shed good light on Edu we need to see much more from him. He also couldn’t sell any of our deadwood.

jwl

Not that i have inside knowledge but i assumed Atteta promotion to manager meant he would be part of discussion on who to buy/sell, and maybe a few more responsiblity, but Edu and club have final decision. I agree with Pedro that Edu probably quits if Arteta is now in charge of club direction. I much prefer Eiropean style where managers are constantly hired/fired, head coaches come and go, but club stays. Wenger had way too much power, way back when i remember article about all the work he did on moving into Emirates – it sounded like Wenger was… Read more »

shad

“Shad, I don’t think he’ll get demoted, but I think at some stage, we’ll hire a technical director that is rightly put over the top of him.”

Fair enough. Though at this point in time his 2 dilemmas are getting us playing attractive, effective football and unfreezing out some players, which means having to eat humble pie..something I’m not sure he is ready to. Let’s see where we’ll be by game 15 to 18.

Kaz

@shad

I know, I reckon us banishing Ozil is shockingly bad AND stupid. We have put up with serial underperforming players in the squad for years but we happen to get rid of the one who can make us tick and give us the most output when he does play, but kept the others.

Madness.

I think Guen can be a real baller too.

Pierre

Shad “can we see more ESR, Balogun, Azeez, Moller..what do we have to lose by trying them? Nketiah, Nelson and Willock aren’t exactly pulling down trees.” It depends gow tou look at ,wiĺlock , Eddie and Nelson have only started one league game between them. League cup …away victories over Leicester and liverpool Europa cup…victories over rapid, dundalk and Molde. Goals for 11 Goals against 2 And yes , I would like to see Balogun start, I would like to see Martinelli start when fit.. I’ve been advocating starting youth for weeks now, as you said …nothing to lose, they… Read more »

Valentin

Shad, ESR is a perma-crock. I wrote last year that he will get a career a la Wilshere: full of what-if and remember THAT GAME. The one I was excited is Azeez. He has more defensive awareness than ESR and he can play as part of double pivot. He may not have the dribbling ability of others but his passing range is what set him apart. Balogun is not going to displace Nkethia, Lacazette anytime soon. With both Brentford and SHU guaranteeing him direct access to the first team, it is unlikely that he will sign an extension. I expect… Read more »

Kaz

CT

I reckon Edu wanted to move on players, I think Arteta told him he wants them to stay and he wanted to give Mustafi a contract extension ffs….

This is what I mean, I think Edu is getting blamed for Arteta things.

Champagne charlie

Marc

Laca and Auba were peas in a pod this past summer. Both contracts winding down, both among the top earners. We chose Auba as the future, we never offered Laca an extension.

To me you’ve now got a player on 180k that we need to shift to retain some value. Use him in Jan as bait for Aouar. Lyon are losing Depay end of season for nothing, we should be offering a proactive approach to make things happen.

I’d sooner we do that than bring in the hottest teenager going.

shad

@Kaz,

Guedouzi can be a baller in the right set up but first he needs to get is his head out of his ass and be humble. We don’t really have enough older players with the Arsenal DNA to hand hold a lot of these youngins – then again, what’s player loyalty these days? Plus signing Partey being signed and the emergence of Willock has basically relegated him further down the pecking order.

Valentin

Marc,

How is the ST system work now.
Last week, I received a call from Arsenal asking me if I wanted to drop a deposit on a Club level ST to guarantee first opportunity when the fans are authorised back in the stadium.
It might be BS by the sales guy, but he sounded confident that ST holders would be authorised in the stadium soon. I asked how soon and he pretty much stated before the end of this season.

Marc

Cc

The reason I asked is because the rumour is Roma put in a “sunstantial” bid in for Laca during the summer.

We’re now heading towards a situation where he’ll start to look at leaving on a free.

Captain Tierney

Kaz Edu is to blame for us failing to offload our deadwood. Period. He is our technical director and transfer window is the period where he earns his keep. He failed in sales big time. Maybe just maybe Arteta wanted to keep Mustafi. That still leaves out Sok who should have been sold Kola/Amn. At least one should have left. We now have 5 full backs in our team. 6 if you also count Saka. Torreira- We needed money . And then simple loaned him to a team who didn’t even want to negotiate with us for one of their… Read more »

Ishola70

Guendouzi was not an AM so doesn’t really make sense to say that Willock would have demoted him.

Guendouzi had far more about his game though than Willock as a central midfielder.

Partey would have been the reason to see Guendouzi demoted.

Captain Tierney

Marc

Right now for Roma even 10 million is substantial

Marc

Valentin

Yeah they’re trying to get people to bite on club level ST’s – last I heard they started circa £3 grand a pop.

I’ve still got my 6 credits left so I can’t see it costing me than a coupe of tickets max if / when we’re back in the ground.

Marc

Wasi

Well that’s the magic question – I would have thought that if it was an Italian club trying it on we would have leaked the amount.

Champagne charlie

Marc

Hence why he’s a player we need to address. Though I don’t see him being here beyond the summer, he certainly won’t be leaving for a free.

Laca’s value to us will be in an exchange imo.

shad

@Valentin, Weird treatment of Balogun – I actually rate him higher than Nketiah, who I feel is one dimensional – he can poach the goals but besides that, doesn’t really offer much as a centre forward. He isn’t a dribbler neither can he hold up play or have aerial strength. Laca is on his last legs but Arteta is playing 2nd fiddle to his relationship with Auba. I also like Azeez – he is a high IQ baller and reads the game very well and his passing range is super – I think he can complement Partey very well if… Read more »

jwl

I love Tony Adams but he talks a lot of shit often. Arsenal put a lot of time and effort into pursuing player and then one guy left and club forgot young talent existed?

Perhaps the club decided to not follow recommendations of people they just fired and start fresh or we decided to spend money differently. Weve bought martinelli and gabriel, buying young feisty talented players was not our problem last summer.

Captain Tierney

Dont get fans fascination with Balogun and Azeez recently.

I get it Balogun’s very highly rated and should get some minutes in Europa. But what have you guys seen that coaching team have not, already labelling him better than Nketiah.
Lets not forget Nketiah was much more prolific than Balogun in PL2 and all the age groups. PL football is a different gravy.

Azeez as highly rated as he is, is not ready to start in the PL or even EL. His positioning is nowhere near a top level footballers yet. Watch the friendly you’ll get what I’m talking about.

Kaz

CT Arteta didn’t help. If he’s telling the players they all got a part to play, why are they going to agitate for a move and for less money? The only one who agitated hard was Torreira who was the only one worth real money. However ‘Rona has all clubs keeping their wallets tight. We could have hard balled more but Arteta didn’t even want to utilise one of our best dms. Arteta didn’t let AMN leave and most of the players are happy to see out their contracts or have been told they have a part to play in… Read more »

shad

“Guendouzi was not an AM so doesn’t really make sense to say that Willock would have demoted him.Guendouzi had far more about his game though than Willock as a central midfielder.” @Ishola, Willock and Guendouzi prefer to play as box to box CMs with Guuendouzi primarily a #6 and Willock more of a #8 (if we are taking the traditional formation of a 4 4 2) but given how those positions dovetail so much in the modern game and with our 3 4 3 formation, they interchange quite a bit to the point they perform the same role – tracking… Read more »

Ishola70

Shad

Willock is not a good enough all round midfielder yet to be talking about him other than an attacking midfielder that can be capable of getting on the end of moves.

Guendouzi had far more influence in the middle of the pitch than Willock has shown thus far.

Marc

Cc

” he certainly won’t be leaving for a free.”

I hope not the list of valuable players who have / are walking on free’s is getting a joke recently.

Mustafi
Ozil
Sok
Miki
Ramsey

We’ve got Chambers, Nketiah, Elneny and Kolas contract running out 2022 as well as Laca.

shad

@CT,

Balogun has better aerial ability, can shoot better with his weaker left foot and is pacier than Nketiah. It would be tragic to lose him for a pittance while still keeping lower ceiling players. And yes, I’ve watched a a ton of PL2 as well. I recall calling out Saka as well ..

Captain Tierney

Kaz

What do you expect Arteta to say in the prezzer?
This this and this deadwood is not required at the club anymore? And drag down their prices even more.

Edu hasn’t done anything yet other than signing Partey and getting Gabriel over the line ( a process which Raul had already begun). The gross incompetence of not finding a loan club for Saliba has to put some real pressure on him from above.

Marc

shad

We’ve tried to extend Balogun’s contract and he’s turned us down it’s basically out of our hands.

Captain Tierney

Shad

If Balogun is so good why does he have less goals than Nketiah in the lower age groups?

I dont doubt Balogun’s talent. But I think he is been massively overrated by some on here. Unai who gave Saka a debut at 17 didnt fancy giving Balogun a chance. Freddie who had worked with the U23s and U18s for the past how 2-3 years also didn’t fancy giving Balogun a chance.

Kaz

I expect Arteta not to mention the players at all and not even bring it up, he can quite easily talk about something else. Why the fuck would you leak you want to give Mustafi a contract extension.

You think anyone hearing that is going to go, oh no we better bid fast!

Graham62

I don’t get it.

What’s Edu got to do with our tactics on the pitch?

Deflecting things away from Arteta.

Very clever.

shad

@Ishola,

Guendouzi played in a more liberal midfield system under Emery where truth be told, our midfield was cat amongst pigeons really. He was all action because he was next to a static Xhaka so of course he’d look mobile – even a phone booth looks mobile next to Xhaka. Now, in a more rigid system where positional discipline and spacial awareness is required, Arteta will not have Willock running around like a headless chicken a la Emery days.

Captain Tierney

Calling out Saka was not a tough task. Whoever had seen him knew he was special.

Marc

I suspect the reason why we didn’t sell him is the following
We were going to get pittance if we sold him last window.
So maybe the club thinks if we can give him chances in the first team this season and show him he’s got a future here, he might just sign.

Marc

Graham

If I was a complete cynic I would agree Pedro’s trying to develop an angle.

Fact is with no football there’s very little talk about and it is getting boring discussing Arteta’s numerous cock ups.

They’ll be plenty of time to discuss Arteta again soon.

Captain Tierney

Kaz

Well when journalists specifically keep asking you about specific players he has to talk them up. Every good manager does that. Just listen to some of Klopps or Pep’s prezzers.

Re Mustafi
Are you just spouting nonsense for the sake of it?
The Mustafi contract leak came a month after window shut.
‘You think anyone hearing that is going to go, oh no we better bid fast!’
If this was the goal the leak would have been made during the TW.

Ishola70

Shad

Willock has look limited as a central midfielder since day one when he first started making appearances in the first team and with Xhaka involved as well.

The reason Guendouzi was more “liberal” in his play was because he was and is a better central midfielder than Willock at this time.

Willock as AM on the end of moves ok possibility. Willock as more of an all round midfielder = not shown enough yet.

Kaz

CT

How is it nonsense, why the fuck was it leaked?

Like I said, if Edu wants to move on players then Arteta tells him, no no not him and is telling the players he wants them to stay, how is Edu going to move them on?.

Why can’t you see this very easy to understand point.

Footballers aren’t slaves they get to decide if they move too.

Champagne charlie

Marc

Would sell everyone you mention there. This summer is a massive one for movement at the club, I think it’s going to be one of the biggest turnovers we’ve seen in many a year.

Only hope we have CL money to add to the pot.

shad

@CT,

Balogun is still a bit lightweight but his finishing ability is incomparable to Nketiah. Maybe he needs to bulk up a bit more or get some minutes in the Championship but the kid is a decent baller. If we can secure £10m for him as was being touted, then that’s OK.

Kaz

Anyway Ziyech was available and doing very well last season too.

I sincerely hope we are really going for Szoboszlai. I’m sick of seeing these kind of talents going to our rivals.

Marc

Cc

I assume you mean the ones who’s contracts expire in 2022! Yeah all of them could be replaced without too much trouble – Even at reduced fees there’s got to be £20 – £25 million there.

Ishola70

Kaz

“I sincerely hope we are really going for Szoboszlai. ”

He shows good signs of being a ball carrier.

Should be more than interested in him.

Kaz

Ish

Who scores and assists too!

I fear Arteta is just going to be petulant because Auoar isn’t the main target (and he shouldn’t be the main target)

Ishola70

Kaz

That goal he scored for Hungary the other night. Yes the game was stretched and it was near the end of the match but it was quite impressive in how quickly he carried that ball just inside his own half to the edge of the opponents box to score.

Marc

“I fear Arteta is just going to be petulant because Auoar isn’t the main target (and he shouldn’t be the main target)”

Whilst there are plenty of criticisms that can be directed at Arteta I don’t think he’s naive enough to think he can insist of signing’s that we just can’t afford.

If he makes CL this season he’ll be in a position to push for more backing but January not unless there’s a huge improvement in performances and results.

Champagne charlie

Marc

I’ve been a big advocate of us gutting the fringe players at the football club for some time. Often that’s been construed as protecting first team players that ‘aren’t good enough’. It’s not.

I just believe we’ve numerous wasted bodies offering very little value to any project. Chambers, Elneny (until the last two months) are clear examples that in truth have just existed on the wage bill in their careers here. And no, it’s not because they’ve never been appreciated for their ability….they’re not at the level.

Marc

Cc

Like anything it’s about getting the balance right. We’ve got too many players on too much money, having squad players is something you need to do but we’ve got sub standard players who are earning more or similar levels to first team players in other mid table PL teams.

SpanishDave

Not much strategy buying a much needed midfielder two hours before the window ended!
Didn’t go for a creative midfielder in the window.
So the club cannot seem to have a plan going forward and this is now being witnessed.

Marko

You know Tony Adams not being involved with the club whatsoever and coming out and spouting shit like some scorned slut it shouldn’t count as a leak.

But if we are counting it as a leak it makes Mikel look like a bitch cause I remember all those leaks under Emery looked poorly on him

Champagne charlie

Marc We’ve not been close to striking a good balance for a while. Post-Wenger was the big hope from me as far as squad building was concerned, thought we’d see a big turnover for Emery’s first window and a structure toward the new era but it wasn’t that impressive. Two summer windows later we’d recruited guys who largely aren’t fit for purpose and are being sold, so the strategy again gets called into question. Now that’s the focus for me as much as the profile of player with who we’re going for now. The 3 this past summer are encouraging… Read more »

englandsbest

Let’s not get into ‘blame everything on the manager’ mode. We are right to be wary of too much power in one man’s hands, though. Remember Wenger? But we should also remember that Wenger was not a problem while David Dein was around. I believe Arteta deserved promotion from coach to manager. Like it or not, he is now the ‘face’ of Arsenal. Something Emery could never be. People looked at the Club and they saw Wenger. Now they see Arteta.. But behind Wenger there was the shadow of David Dein. Wenger’s book reveals that he was narrow-minded beyond belief.… Read more »

Ishola70

Fuck all is encouraging about signing a 32 yo on a three year deal on big wages.

Ishola70

Partey and Gabriel as others have said are encouraging signings though.

Marko

Tony Adams is literally leaking information on the record and you don’t count is as a leak.

No I don’t. Doesn’t work for the club doesn’t count as a leak and the comments and reference to Bould (who’s not involved with transfers btw) seem to be solely about Mikel. It’s really nothing to be taken seriously but because it’s a negative about Edu and not Mikel I assume that’s why it’s being talked about by you. But again if it’s a leak and it’s happening under Mikel the manager’s watch then it makes him look like a cuck.

Marko

Staff leaking ‘Emery is a boremonster’ = Weak
Legends leaking ‘He’s the guvnor’ = not so weak

Again you’re kinda changing the goal posts we literally argued about leaks of any kind under Emery being bad and now you’re talking about a recent leak and how it’s a serious leak and not a nothing leak which is what I’m saying and disregarding a leak under Mikel’s tenure. It’s all very consistent.

Just to be clear I don’t think what Tony Adams recently said matters in the slightest that’s you.

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