New kids added to Europa mixer!

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Today is KILLING me. It’s like a last 16 game in the Europa League, you’ve been 2-0 down all game, you pulled the game back with an own goal and a deflected shot… now you’re praying extra time will see the win over the line.

This is painful.

Let’s dive into some escapism with FOOTBALL.

Mikel Arteta said he was ‘fed up’ with the situation of William Saliba. I suspect he’s quite miffed there’s so much attention focused on someone who isn’t playing, again. When it’s Mesut Ozil, I can understand the fascination, when it’s a 19-year-old centre back the press are wondering about, it starts to get a bit boring.

Firstly, we’re pretty good at defending. There’s no need to wonder if we should be taking a risk on a player the coaching staff has deemed not ready. Secondly, he’s 19 years old, he is just a kid, there’s a long career ahead of him, he’ll be just fine.

If I’m reading between the lines, the problem actually sounds like they couldn’t find a club for him that matched where he is in his career. Going back to St Etienne for another season seems regressive, he probably doesn’t fancy Championship football, and I would say with certainty that most Premier League coaches would have the same worries about having him with them.

Arsenal has added Zane Monlouis and midfielders Omari Giraud-Hutchinson and Charlie Patino to their Europa squad. Not sure they’ll start, but it’s great to have some new names in contention.

My hope for tomorrow is that we see Joe Willock put in another good shift. Arteta said what we all think, namely that he has some special qualities we lack. The problem for Joe is that it is very rare that we see him do it in the games that matter. Still, another run-out, another shift, and maybe he’ll earn a chance in a Premier League game.

I’m also keeping them crossed that we see Smith-Rowe play some minutes. There’s a lot of hope riding on his abilities. We know he has a lot of energy, his passing is fast, and he can be a bit of an all-action hero. The question, as always, is can he do it on a rainy night in the Europa?

David Luiz might have to. He’s back in contention. Arteta clearly loves the Brazilian, but I am hoping that we’re going to see the slow phasing out of him as we move through the season. Aash made the point on the podcast… there’s a difference in confidence when you go into a game without the players that make big errors on the regular. Luiz is a beast of a player, but he is a box of chocolates player.

Two other Brazilians we won’t be seeing for a bit. Gabriel Martinelli won’t be back until next year. We just have to deal with that and imagine how exciting our frontline will be if he comes back strong. Pablo Mari (not Brazilian, but played there, so maybe?) is also out again. He suffered another setback on his return to the starting 11. I’m interested to know whether he’s a good player, or another of Raul’s special, special deals.

Right, short post today, I’m brutally hungover. See you in the comments. x

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grooveydaddy

1st

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Tr4phy

grooveydaddy

Nice!

rollen

trump

Aasim

Awful news on Martinelli and Pablo. Outside ESR I would also be very interested to see Balugon getting decent minutes in this game. We also need to give minutes to Soares, AMN, so the team pretty much picks itself. Also, very keen to see Pepe in the number 10 role. My understanding is that’s the role he played at Lille and I also feel the more he sees and feels the ball during the game, the more confidant and creative he gets. He will beat and dribble past players, always. So allowing him more touches will probably allow him to… Read more »

redbro14

top ten?

DivineSherlock

What is going on America ? I dont even understand the elections! Inject some football into my veins .

Tom

Pedro, sorry to say this but the Saliba situation is clearly a fuck up so no point in dressing it up.
I was kinda on board since I never saw him play, but if his supposedly inferior CB paring from St-Etienne is good enough for Leicester, then that kinda settled it.

raptora

Fact is the elections are around Trump – you either hate him, or love him. No middle ground. So many people have cast their votes because strong feelings are involved this time around. Extreme feelings.

Pretty sure that the people voting Biden, are actually voting against Trump and not specifically because they like Biden so much. How did the democrats come up with such a weak candidate I’ve no clue.

Guns of SF

The one thing that Trump has going is the economy that is being buoyed by big tech, most who are anti trump… also a economy inherited by Obama who over 8 years pulled us out of a terrible deficit, housing mortgage crises etc.

Raptora you are right, there is too much that is ideological in this election. Folks who are undecided are weird… what is there to undecided about???? You either love or hate trump

UGgooner

Mari is not a Brazilian

DivineSherlock

Forgive me if I am wrong but how is Biden a weak candidate when the alternative is Trump ? Outside of America I dont think anyone really thinks he is good.

Guns of SF

Divine true, but Biden was the party ticket, which many feel was not the strongest candidate. I voted for bernie S, but the dems pushed that Biden was the one who can defeat Trump the best. Bernie lost out again…

bacaryisgod

Pedro-fair to say that Huss Fahmy’s departure was largely down to the Saliba contract mess?

bacaryisgod

No matter what you think of Trump (and mine are almost entirely negative), his energy levels in the last few weeks of the campaign were remarkable. Biden was a lot more active in campaigning than the Republicans claimed but Trump was incredible.

andy1886

In any sane world a high turnout for an election is a GOOD thing, for anyone with any sense making voting easier – postal votes for example – is a no-brainer. Only on Planet Trump are both of these things BAD and an excuse to cry like a baby and throw your dummy (sorry pacifier) out of your pram (or Stroller if you prefer).

Guns of SF

bacary it was the adderall man…. trump lives on that shit

AC

Mari is a spaniard not brazilian

bacaryisgod

Guns of SF….I forgot about that. Those Covid steroids he took must have been pretty strong too.

Guns of SF

His 100K $ treatments, cured him real fast.

Too bad the rest of us will never get any of that….

Fascist perks I guess

JayJay

Good point AC, pedro’s lack of knowledge again, we fucked up with saliba, just admit it, simple as that

Tom

Andy , Suppressing voter turnout has been the Republican game plan for a long time, the only difference is Trump said the quiet part out loud this year because he’s a moron who has no filter.

London gunner

Trump lost but damn it was close.

Thought biden was going to win by a landslide.

SpanishDave

What’s actually wrong with Martinelli he’s been out for a long time for a teenager.
Will he recover to the level he was at?
ESR the same he doesn’t make the bench

bacaryisgod

I think Martinelli didn’t have a setback so it’s not terrible news. He’s just going to be brought back very carefully. That torn meniscus is especially risky for an explosive player like Martinelli.

London gunner

Fuck man I thought martinelli was back soon.

Marc

SF

Well if anyone’s still undecided they may be a bit late for 2020.

bacaryisgod

Sounds like Balogun is still on his way out. I’m not sure there’s much Arsenal could do about this. He’s itching for first-team experience and he’s just not ready. Having said that, we should probably have accepted a transfer fee with a fat sell-on clause and maybe even a buyback option.

Right now, he holds all the cards.

bacaryisgod

The year 2020 got the election it deserved. Totally f’d up…

AC

As far as Saliba is concerned, my theory is 1. He is not better than Gabriel, tierney and Rob, so not a first 11 material which is understandable at his age 2. We owe a solid fee to St. Etienne for appearance related bonus this season 3. We have reasonable backups in Luiz and Mustafi even though they are not better than Saliba they will do just fine as backups Because of 1,2 and 3 – the edu/arteta probably decided to not play Saliba this season and save some money. Considering we let go gunnersauraus, i wouldn’t be surprised if… Read more »

Jamie

Demba Ba rolling back the years! Utd 1 down.

TheBayingMob

Trump succeeds here because he reflects a lot of America; he’s a bigoted cunt. I’ve worked in the midwest for a few years now, on the whole the states that have turned red overall see no issue with his behavior. He is a racist. A rapist. A liar. A fraud. A misogynistic chauvinist. He’s rude and a bully. And no the whole, so are they. It’s not so much that Trump is a corrupt politician, most of them are, we know that it’s not a surprise. It’s the unprecedented behavior from a head of state that is shocking, and even… Read more »

Jamie

2 down!

OGS excellent again.

PhD2020

TR7November 4, 2020 14:07:51 PhD‘Yeah,Hispanics all think the same way-therefore voted the same way!’ You are supporting my argument actually. I am also saying it is wrong to tarnish Trump by saying he is anti Hispanics when there are some hispanics who don’t think he is as they would not have voted for him had they thought so. CT was putting all sort of labels on Trump to which I said things don’t work out that way in reality. For someone Trump might be misogynist but many women actually support him. Many people of color support him too despite people… Read more »

Marc

” He is a racist. A rapist. A liar. A fraud. A misogynistic chauvinist. He’s rude and a bully. ”

And his bad points?

englandsbest

I understand why Arteta is ‘fed up’. It’s the football journalists, masters of ‘fake news’. I am inclined to believe they invented it. Someone should tell them: ‘Gossip is for females not football fans.’

I don’t know why, I can’t explain, but I think Pepe may turn out to be one of Arsenal’s greatest. Call it instinct. I hope Arteta puts him on from the start in the next game and whispers in his ear: ‘Do what you do best. Attack!’

andy1886

Nice piece TBM. I’d add that this is a man who has made numerous sexually inappropriate comments about his own daughter, calling her ‘hot’ and ‘a piece of ass’ amongst other things (including saying if they weren’t related he’d probably be dating her). As a father of daughters he makes me sick to the bottom of my stomach but maybe that appeals to rednecks too.

bacaryisgod

If Biden wins, he just needs to focus on the few Republican senators that he can do business with. Don’t even try to work with McConnell.

Murkowski, Collins and Romney will be incredibly powerful now.

PhD2020

MarcNovember 4, 2020 18:45:48
” He is a racist. A rapist. A liar. A fraud. A misogynistic chauvinist. He’s rude and a bully. ”

And his bad points?
———
You mean his good points?

He shoots from the hip.. 🙂

bacaryisgod

TheBayingMob

The reason he gets the fat, white, middle-aged male vote is not that their lives aren’t good, it’s that they worry losing their rigged advantage over women and minorities.

bacaryisgod

We need United to end up winning this game 5-2. Otherwise, Ole might get sacked this week.

TR7

PhD What are your views on capitalism ? As far as I am concerned capitalism despite all its pitfalls is the best economic system. America is the greatest economic and military power in the world because of capitalism. South Korea uplifted millions of people from poverty and became a developed nation in two decades thanks to capitalism. Singapore, China, Japan, Hong Kong, Canada,Australia ….you name it. The list goes on and on. You talked about India. India abandoned socialism in 1991 and fortunes of the country changed since then. Millions and millions of people came out of poverty and the… Read more »

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Peter

You reckon saliba being over looked cos him good mates Mattie..

Or does art not fancy ?

underrated Coq

TheBayingMob,

You sound very angry and unstable too…..at least the tone and content of your rant does.

Just saying

underrated Coq

Don’t care for American elections.

Can’t wrap my head around every man and his dog from every corner of the World having a strong opinion on what’s good for America and Americans.

It’s embarrassing because most of these clowns probably don’t know the names of their own Mayors.

andy1886

What’s wrong with being greedy? LOL.

If everyone is a selfish self-absorbed ignorant w@nker just after more and more of the Earth’s limited resources then the planet and every living organism on it is well and truly fucked wouldn’t you say? There’s more than enough to go around if it wasn’t for the greed of a small number of parasites that want it all and fuck everyone else.

And let’s be clear, the vast majority of so-called communist states were communist in name only while being run by crooks and charlatans for their own benefit.

PhD2020

TR7November 4, 2020 18:59:58 PhD —– You miss the point again. I don’t have a problem with capitalism.. I have a problem with a tyrant or despot in charge purporting to be a leader of the free world, whilst being the most corrupt, racist, misogynistic, divisive, inarticulate phony to ever take presidential office of a so-called super power country. Wedded to that, this despot comes out today during mid-election counting and announces he has won, and any result to the contrary is a ‘Fraud on the nation,’ without following due process, without respect to the institutions in place. Is this… Read more »

Tom

“We need United to end up winning this game 5-2. Otherwise, Ole might get sacked this week.“

Maybe not this week but it’s coming

Marc

““We need United to end up winning this game 5-2. Otherwise, Ole might get sacked this week.“2

We need Zidane to leave Madrid first so the Poch isn’t interested.

Pierre

On to more important stuff…The Arsenal . The needle has swung in favour of Arteta after the result at the weekend. .What has benefitted Arteta is the superb protection being afforded to Leno in the last 3 league games, meaning Martinez is slowly becoming a distant memory.. What else has benefitted Arteta…Bringing in Elneny for Xhaka could be the start of a beautiful midfield partnership that will finally give the team the perfect base to control games.. The next step of course is to address our chronic lack of real creativity, Arteta has 3 choices .1) bring back the one… Read more »

TR7

PhD Trump is not my idol, why on earth will he be my idol ? I said it myself he is not a nice human being. Is he the most corrupt ? I don’t think so. Does he respect women ? He surely doesn’t. Racist ? Well I have had debates with you on racism before and I don’t think we will ever have converging views on this. Inarticulate ? I.wouldn’t say he is a gifted or fluent speaker like Obama but he is an effective communicator as he gets his point across in a very simple and basic language.… Read more »

GunnerDNA

Coq,

“Can’t wrap my head around every man and his dog from every corner of the World having a strong opinion on what’s good for America and Americans.It’s embarrassing because most of these clowns probably don’t know the names of their own Mayors.”

It’s understandable, the USA sets the trend.

WengerEagle

Doubt this is what Cavani has envisaged, getting scraps from the bench and behind Mata in pecking order.

TR7

Anyway good news for most of you -Biden likely to be the new POTUS.

Marc

Pierre

“.1) bring back the one player who would compliment the superb work of Partey and Eneny…..that is Mesut Ozil, that is not going to happen.”

It can’t happen Ozil is not listed in the 25 man squad – I believe you can amend the squad by a couple of players in Jan but whatever has gone on behind the scenes I think there’s too much water under than particular bridge.

The only real question is will Ozil be open to / Arsenal have the money to offer him a payoff to make an early move in Jan.

Marc

TR7

You’re assuming he’s not going to take that walk towards the light between now and 20th Jan!

TheBayingMob

“ You sound very angry and unstable too…..at least the tone and content of your rant does.”

Ha. Fair enough. I would say my state of mind is more bemusement. If I am angry, well at least I know what I’m angry about unlike half of this lot. And it isn’t stemming from my fear of black people and gay people!!

Marc

TBM

Why do you have a fear of black and gay people?

GunnerDNA

It’s a matter of when now before Pochettino is confirmed as the new manager at United.

MidwestGun

OGS the smarter, more experienced, more technically sound manager then Arteta according to a certain United fan. …whose name escapes my mind. Starts with a B or something, …getting schooled by a Turkish team who has never won a CL match in their history.

Now that was fun to watch.

karim

Trump7
The gift that keeps giving

TBM
Thanks a lot for that excellent analysis of yours.
Feels good to have a few sane people left in 2020

PhD2020

TR7November 4, 2020 19:32:49

At least Trump is good at handling the US economy and creating jobs.
—–

Are you kidding me?
I expected more than this from you at the very least..

It’s well documented that Trump rode off the back of the coat tails of Obama’s restructuring of the economy post 2008-2016..

Bearing in mind, when Obama took over from Bush in 2008-when their was the GFC and the bank bailouts,Obama spent two terms steering the US economy to where it is now, of which Trump is trying to take acclaim or credit for…

Seriously….

Tom

Quiz ,
“Trump files suit to stop vote counting in Michigan”

“Trump lobbying to include Georgia vote ( the former Russian republic) into the tally “

Which is the fake headline ? Lol

TheBayingMob

“ Why do you have a fear of black and gay people?”

God daaayyyumm! Im a gonna get myself my guurrrnnss and protect maaa property boy, in case any of those god dayum black qu33rs try to subject me to some of that there anal sodomy. Praise the llooorrrrrd!! The more of those guuurrrrnnss I have the less qu33r I am, you hear me!!!

Marc

“TR7, means I can go home to London… fingers crossed.”

Trump for POTUS!

MidwestGun

OGS IS AN INTELLIGENT MODERN MANAGER HOW DID THIS HAPPEN!
____
NO idea … now this deserves a congressional investigation. I’m sure super-fan Bam will let us know.
#LGdeservesApology.

GunnerDNA

“OGS the smarter, more experienced, more technically sound manager then Arteta according to a certain United fan. …whose name escapes my mind. Starts with a B or something, …getting schooled by a Turkish team who has never won a CL match in their history.”

OGS, Fat Frank and Mikel Arteta are all novices the difference between them really is PEA.

Tom

PhD2020
Trump took Obama’s economy and gave it a steroid shot – a double dose of tax cuts( mostly for the rich), which the R’s put on the credit card.

The funniest part about Trump losing will be the fact that a Kenyan born Muslim got two terms while the smartest businessman the world has ever seen, and the best president maybe since Lincoln only will have gotten one lol.

Marc

OGS managerial CV

Cardiff – got relegated
Some girls team in Norway that went moldy
ManU – spent fortunes was shit

That’s going to be some fucking job interview next time round!

MidwestGun

GunnerDNA.. I contend that Fat Frank or Arteta would do better with the same exact team United have now. Although I would like to keep that on the down low.. so as OGS gets more time to turn it around. 3 more years at least.

Is there anyone else interested in paying for a banner to be flown over old Trafford with the words ‘Ole forever worlds best manager , please don’t sack him ‘ , written on it

TR7

PhD While.I take your point about Trump inheriting a good economy from Obama it is highly biased on your part to discount the work Trump has done. Investments, government spending, private consumption and trade surplus/deficit form the 4 constituents of GDP. Trump took measures to boost all the 4 components. Personal and corporate tax cuts resulted in increase in personal consumption. He loosened the government’s purse stringa to ramp up government spending. A better performing economy naturally attracts investment from doemstic and foreign players and the US attracted a lot of capital especially from 2016 to Feb 2020. Through protectionism… Read more »

GunnerDNA

Mid,

OGS is useless! Didn’t want him to get the sack because once they get a proper manager they will be a force again same as Chelsea. The hype around these 3 ex players are just from YouTubers and Bloggers trying to stay relevant. After every result they swing the direction of the wind.

PhD2020

TheBayingMobNovember 4, 2020 19:53:38
“ Why do you have a fear of black and gay people?”God daaayyyumm! Im a gonna get myself my guurrrnnss and protect maaa property boy, in case any of those god dayum black qu33rs try to subject me to some of that there anal sodomy. Praise the llooorrrrrd!! The more of those guuurrrrnnss I have the less qu33r I am, you hear me!!!
—–

Lol

That was funny..Liked it.. 🙂

I know Bamford would chip in

Marc

TYAG

If you add on to the end “love Bamford” I reckon you’ll get a few takers!

MidwestGun

Ty&Gn I would chip in for your banner but right now all my money is tied up in the Xhaka Out banner I’m working on.

@Marc

😂😂 bless him. He must be hurting right now

@Midwest

Hahahaha. I’ll chip in for that banner as well

PhD2020

TomNovember 4, 2020 20:00:15 PhD2020 Trump took Obama’s economy and gave it a steroid shot – a double dose of tax cuts( mostly for the rich), which the R’s put on the credit card.The funniest part about Trump losing will be the fact that a Kenyan born Muslim got two terms while the smartest businessman the world has ever seen, and the best president maybe since Lincoln only will have gotten one lol. —— Good take on that actually..The irony also.. Given,Trump had an obsession with Obama, trying to override Obama Care, without having a plan in place to replace… Read more »

TR7

Got myself totally sucked in to political debates so much so that I did not even realize why the entire LG was talking about Ole and Bamford. Just checked United have lost to a club I can’t even bother to spell 🙂

@TR7

It’s why united should keep OGS forever. It’s all part of his master plan , I read it in the Bamford pamphlet he produced online. 😁 only banter Bamford

James wood.

Totally pissed off with this American Malarkey.
Bring back the German girls.

Nothing better than tits Pedro, have to agree with Mr Wood.

Marc

“Bring back the German girls.2

Where the fuck are the Fraulins?

PhD2020

TR7November 4, 2020 20:07:34 PhDWhile.I take your point about Trump inheriting a good economy from Obama it is highly biased on your part to discount the work Trump has done. Investments, government spending, private consumption and trade surplus/deficit form the 4 constituents of GDP. Trump took measures to boost all the 4 components —— Oh dear… The so-called 4 components that enrich his cronies and the big companies at hand and at heart… A man that tried to have a future G7 /G20 meeting scheduled at his resort in Florida, until he was told that would be a conflict of… Read more »

Tom

This is only the second time I’m watching Upamecano, wasn’t he supposed to be the hottest CB prospect around?
I’m not impressed

Jamie

It’s over. Biden won. Spare a thought for Rich and Buzzy, and let’s get back to unpacking how excellent and intelligent OGS really is.

Arsnil

America is f****d. Even should Joe Biden win, the mere fact that such numbers voted for a cartoon says it all ………..

MidwestGun

I’m 100% behind the movement to bring back Ze German girls. Have to cast my vote on that before the polling closes.

PhD2020

JamieNovember 4, 2020 20:30:25
It’s over. Biden won. Spare a thought for Rich and Buzzy, and let’s get back to unpacking how excellent and intelligent OGS really is.
——-
It’s not over yet…

237 Biden vs 214 Trump..

Far from over..Though it seems like Biden has picked up Arizona, possibly Nevada and if he picks up Michigan-I do think it is-‘Thank You & Good Night.”

PA will not matter so much,if the above comes through for Biden.

Arsnil

Joe Biden’s great great great grandfather came from Co. Mayo in Ireland. And his surname …… Blewitt. I kid you not!!!!!!!!

karim

Rennes have conceded an early pen at the bridge but they’re playing.very well actually.
Shame Camavinga is injured.

karim

248 – 214 apparently