FEAR IS NOT A STRATEGY

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The big debate before the game was whether the sacrifice we’ve been making on style could be countered with the gains we’ve made on points. Win 2-0 last night, we’re a point from the top and clear in the top 4. Sadly, the argument was momentarily settled at home to a weak Leicester because Arteta bottled our first-half dominance and lost to the most obvious of strategies > let Jamie Vardy win the game late on.

Fear is not a strategy. Mikel Arteta has moved mountains when it comes to our defensive output, structure, and fight. We can all salute that. His coaching moves were made during the worst moment we’d faced as a club in 38 years. However, let’s be honest, those players he’s working with are not the 8th worst group of players in the league, they are better than that. He was supposed to breathe life into them this season, so far, he hasn’t.

From where I’m watching, it looks like he doesn’t trust his squad. We’ve eeked out wins this season, but we’ve been unadventurous and boring… Leicester beating us feels like the warning shot. You cannot shithouse your way to 4th with these players. There needs to be a second act. We need to speed up the process. The coaching staff need to show some balls and do something interesting. Being guided by what bad things ‘could’ happen is negative energy. I’m all for clean sheets, but not at the expense of looking meek. Yesterday, we looked scared… just like we did midweek when we rolled the ball into the corner to protect a lead against Austrian minnows.

After the Villa game last season, I wrote that the biggest mistake Arteta could make would be to continue to trust players with weak mindsets and output. Well, he doubled down on them… and guess what, we’re not looking great. We’re 6 games into the season and now it’s time to be real… our averageness is not a style, it’s the xG warning we had with Unai Emery.

Alex Lacazette has been atrocious for a long time. He’s physically weak and completely incapable of being a central point when it comes to attack. On another day, with a better striker, we’re exiting the first half with 2 goals. Aouar was a big miss this summer, but let’s not pretend having an elite creator was moving the needle with Alex through the middle. If Eddie can’t do it, then try Balogun. Continuously giving game time to someone that looks less and less athletic is not the answer. Alex should have gone this summer, he didn’t, but that shouldn’t mean he’s starting important games.

Nicolas Pepe might have cost £72m, but he’s not delivering to that level. Why do we keep depending on him? He’s weak, he can’t hold his balance, and he looks scared. He was useless when he came on, I’d prefer to give Reiss a chance. I don’t know whether there’s a second act with him, but so far, he looks like a huge dud.

Granit Xhaka served a purpose last season, but it’s clear that in the big games, he doesn’t have the next level. How long are we going to fool ourselves into believing he’s going to take us to the promised land? I have the exact same feelings on Mustafi. I feel terrible to give him any blame after a long period of time out, but let’s be honest, the club desperately tried to move him out this summer, he’s not getting a new deal, so how much can we expect? I’d rather fail with young players than create false hope that we can resurrect players that we know can’t do it. They do it at Dortmund, why can’t we do it at Arsenal?

The biggest mistake Arteta can continue to make is 1) Believe that there’s no way he can get our players operating in an attacking structure 2) That bum players will give him one more year after he spent the summer trying to sell half of them.

We need to see some bold action. I watched Southampton boss Everton yesterday. They don’t have a squad anywhere near our level. They attacked with free-flowing football, they caused problems all over the park, and they were worth more than the two goals they scored. Why can’t we do that?

Villa were spanked at the weekend, but they will run at you, they create, and they are exciting with players that are a long way from world-class.

Bielsa has been at Leeds for two seasons. His free-flowing brand of attacking football will likely end in tears, but he has lesser players than us and he totally dominates teams and has never offered up shit football.

There’s a system out there where we can be solid with Leno, Partey, Gabriel, Bellerin and Tierney… but still attack with Saka and Auba.

I simply do not believe that players at the level we have need to be coached so hard they can’t think outside NFL style power plays everyone has sussed.

The handbrake is on.

The players fear unleashing the magic.

We’re really fucking boring.

One of the most important things you learn as you develop as a young manager in any industry is that people who are talented have a great propensity to surprise you… but only if you empower them. Sometimes, you have to throw them off a cliff and ask them to swim. Arteta doesn’t seem to trust his squad at the moment and that, for me, is why our ceiling is crushing us.

Arteta needs to address what we don’t have with confidence, not fear. There needs to be a shift in mindset. We can’t be celebrating 1-0 losses to Manchester City as progress. We can’t be saluting Premier League players for coming back from a goal down against a bang average Austrian team. We cannot live in a world where our team collapses because David Luiz stops creating.

Last night was boring, it was predictable, it lacked intensity, and it was totally avoidable. We need to find the next stage of whatever the grand vision is because a season of ‘stop being Emery’ will not be tolerated by fans that bought into the vision of a coach that promised us progressive football and results.

This can be fixed.

Over to you, Mikel… you are better than this.

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Pierre

Midwest
“The Axis of Evil is still here, Xhaka, Mustafi and Ozil.”

Two thirds of the axis of evil haven’t played for months, look elsewhere for the reason why you are so depressed.

Ernest Reed

“Le Grove was so happy last week with the Ozil news, i tried to warn the obsessives that it will all end in tears and that their celebration was premature.”

You are alone on that one Pierre. Ozil never was and never will be the solution to what ails Arsenal today. Seriously, you are only punishing yourself by beating on a dead horse that turns out be, just yourself.

englandsbest

Marc

And you are bordering on dissembling.

Stick to the point, mate: you asked for twelve problems where Arteta was powerless.

It’s impossible to know which applied last night but I would hazard numbers 1, 4, 8 and, in your case, number 12.

Guns of SF

Dani is not a CAM- not a creator in my book.
He is and 6/8 and assist making is not his forte.

Breaking up play from deep and moving the ball is his game. Reading the game is his strength and positioning.

Valentin

Arsenal can’t just ban Özil from the training ground, it is a breach of contract. Özil can then sue and is entitled to all the remainder salary plus potential punitive damage. If they really wanted to be ruthless, they should have just negotiated a pay off with him to go away. If they can’t afford the payoff, then they have to swallow their pride and make use of him. Pay up or shut up. It is just bad management. He will linger around the club until the end of the season. Every bad results/performance will be viewed, analysed and discussed… Read more »

MidwestGun

Pierre it only takes one..member of the Axis to make us terrible… they are that powerful.

Yesterday we had 2. It is 100% on the manager to replace them and not play them. I’m aware.

Marko

i tried to warn the obsessives that it will all end in tears and that their celebration was premature.

How was the celebration premature? He’s literally played his last game for Arsenal he’s done it’s brilliant

Doesn’t want Ozil but offers contracts to Soares, Mari, renews luiz contract and offers Mustafi an extension. Sorry but Arteta is clueless and worse than Emery.

Dissenter

Arteta should have reviewed the video of Danio Ceballos at CAM under Emery. He was dismal.
He has to respect Emery’s body work and not try to reinvent the wheel.
Ditto Xhaka, he has to drop him and try playing Elneny instead. Elneny is more mobile – let Partey to the passing and ball carrying.

Marko

Arsenal can’t just ban Özil from the training ground, it is a breach of contract

Listen know it all you don’t know what’s in his contract so keep it down

Arteta only plays the players who suck him off and tell him how amazing he is.

MidwestGun

Can Arsenal ban Ozil from twitter? they should check that.. he is just trolling us like Jay on LG at this point.

Jay

Give Emile Smith Rowe a chance to play in the first team? decent home grown Huddersfield player.

Nelson

“undoing years on mismanagement was always going to take time.”

The problem is, we are continuing the mismanagement. Last Summer when there is rumor that Laca could be sold, Arteta wanted to keep him. There was an offer on the table for Xhaka and AMN and Arteta wanted to keep both. And we are signing Willian, Mari and Soares long term. It looks like the club is creating more problems still.

Ishola70

We will know whether Arteta has really turned a corner when we start seeing some actual interplay in central midfield on a regular basis. Pedro put it in very good terms. He described Arteta’s football as NFL plays. Very accurate description. It just highlights the rigidity of Arteta’s system and plays. Ernest Partey was invisible because he was left all alone in central midfield and under utilised. Also Xhaka isn’t having the team built around him as one poster put it but he is being shoe-horned into the team at all costs as another poster stated. His newest position now… Read more »

Spot on Nelson

Pierre

Marko
“How was the celebration premature? He’s literally played his last game for Arsenal he’s done it’s brilliant”

It’s all about the qualìty of football fans like to watch…if you’re happy watching your team play football that’s sleep inducing then of course , ” it’s brilliant”

azed

Whoever thought it was a good idea to offer Mustafi a contract should be fired instantly.

Ishola70

Oh and this supposed new contract offer to Mustafi is genuinely terrifying.

How can you have faith in what is being done at the club with such decisions.

Rich

James Wood Lacazette needs to move for sure, but who’s else is going to pay him the reported £200k p/w I think you’ll see plenty of player happy to run down their contracts. Lacazette is a decent player, who’ll bag you a few goals, and works hard for the team. But he lacks the stamina + physicality to be elite, he’s just another poorly thought out and expensive mistake, I felt within a a few months of watching him, that he was a downgrade on the underrated Giroud. Our attack doesn’t work with €200million worth of talent Our midfield doesn’t… Read more »

Nelson

We all know that Xhaka can be caught ball watching. Elneny is more reliable defensively.

Pierre

It seemed our tactic in the 2nd half was to bypass Partey with our passing..
He had an excellent first half but failed to make an impression 2nd half .

Playing 90 minutes in Austria probably didn’t help.
The same could be said of Gabriel , excellent first half , sloppy 2nd half , also played in Austia.

Ernest Reed

“It’s all about the qualìty of football fans like to watch”

You still insist that Ozil can still produce quality football, despite all the evidence showing otherwise. Ozil is a busted flush and all the make believe in your world isn’t going to change that one iota, Pierre.

Ernest Reed

Pierre, if these guys cant put together back to backs – ah shit, stop making excuses! You have nothing to offer so simply dont try.

Upstate Gooner

azedOctober 26, 2020 15:27:59
Whoever thought it was a good idea to offer Mustafi a contract should be fired instantly.

… as well as convincing Xhaka to stay.

Pierre

Ernie
Of course he can, he was playing perfectly well before lockdown, as was the team ….not sleep inducing that’s for sure.

James wood.

Rich 15.28
You must be watching the same team as me.?
And who mentioned Arteta not me I will wait
for the one.🧐

Upstate Gooner

“How many years again before having a proper coach/manager ??”

End of the season when we’re in 12th place.

Rich

Pierre

I agree about the Europa league groups.

We’ve got our hardest European fixture out the way, we’ve now got 2 home games back to back.

I don’t want to see anyone who’s pencilled In for Sunday, starting on Thursday.

Saka is 19, and shouldn’t be playing 3 games in a week.

Luiz is 33, and shouldn’t be playing 3 games in a week.

We’ve got a first team squad of 31, if our second string can’t get a result against Dundalk at home, then we’ve got massive issues.

Ernest Reed

“I think you’ll see plenty of player happy to run down their contracts.”

In a nutshell, thats pretty much it Rich. Its not about redemption for many of them, but rather about the bottom line. Say what you want about Mikki, at least he wanted redemption for his career. If guys on the squad see Ozil being Ozil, why not run down their contracts and not play too boot. Its all the rage at Arsenal these days – Do The Ozil!

Ishola70

Rich You make some good points but you are so off on a couple of them. No Xhaka is not good for this team. He actually hinders it. And no this team can’t shithouse it’s way to 4th place as you said they might be able to as Pedro and many others now realise. You keep continually banging on about Xhaka’s win rate while playing for Arsenal. It’s an absolutely pointless stat because he has been virtually a constant starter since he first arrived and Arsenal has been failing as a football team since his arrival. Xhaka was near out… Read more »

Marko

Pierre you’re confusing the current problems on the pitch with Arsenal finally being rid of a shit player in Ozil. You don’t want to do that it’ll make you look foolish

Ernest Reed

“Of course he can, he was playing perfectly well before lockdown, ”

Is that how you saw it, Pierre? I saw a lazy shit being a lazy shit! To each their own.

James wood.

For that one.😂

MidwestGun

If then, we’ve got massive issues.
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Rich – We have massive issues.

Graham62

For my sins, I’m a fan of the ‘Despicable Me’ trilogies. Blame my youngest.

Remember when Gru said “Light bulb” moment, well, that’s how things work with me.

My light bulb moment with Wenger came in December 2008, after we lost 2-1 at Stoke. With Emery it was just after the 2-2 debacle at Watford when we conceded 99 shots! With Arteta, I have a feeling it was the Leno cock ups in Vienna last week.

We all have our “light bulb” moments.

What’s yours?

James wood.

The benefits of shorter contracts.
Would have solved the problems we are in?
2 year contracts MAX.?

MidwestGun

I’m not sure why Pierre has so much man love for Ozil, anyhow. Had he played to his capabilities, Wenger would most likely still be here.

RodneyKing

Saliba, just like Nkounkou and Fofana should be getting as much game time as possible. Those two have been impressive so far, especially Nkounkou (in the Carabao Cup games he’s played for Everton).

I was very disappointed that he wasn’t included in the EL squad. The only excusable reason would be that he’s yet to fully recover from his most recent injury. It would be a real shame if it’s because “he’s not working hard enough in training”.

Ishola70

We need to see more flowing football and fluid football through central midfield as well as the flanks and up to the forwards. We saw shades of it against Sheffield United and surprise surprise Xhaka wasn’t around in that match to slow things down. We need players that are comfortable taking it to the opposition in crowded areas. If Arteta is indeed into his NFL style plays and sees this as the way to go then his fixation with Xhaka makes perfect sense because Xhaka has been described before as a quarter back style football player. We don’t want this.… Read more »

Rich

Ishola70 I never said Xhaka was good for this team, I’d love a more dynamic player, who can move the ball much quicker. I said he’s been our best and most important midfielder. He’s a better player and more experienced than both Torreira + Guendouzi. Torreira at 24, may well develop into a better player over the next 18 months, Guendouzi at 21, may mature into a superior player over time. But over the last couple of seasons Xhaka has been our best available option, I never said a great option, I’m just arguing that the alternatives weren’t any better.… Read more »

alex cutter

Interesting article in The Athletic about players being dropped from the squad. ‘It destroyed me.’ This is what happens when you’re frozen out like Ozil By Stuart James and Dominic Fifield Oct 24, 2020 161 “It’s a power play,” Stephen Warnock says. “They try and fuck with your head as much as they can and hope that you’ll turn around and say, ‘Right, pay me X amount and I’ll leave’. That’s what they’re after, ultimately — they’re trying to break you down mentally so that you walk out with less money.” Warnock is talking about what it’s like to be… Read more »

Dissenter

There’s always that Churchillian political aphorism to remember that “Never let a good crisis go to waste.”
It seems Pierre is determined to not let this moment pass without reminding us that Ozil is the best attacking midfielder on the planet.

Valentin

Marko, This is standard term mandated by the premiership, FIFA and UEFA. Taken from the Athletic, In any Premier League player’s contract, the club consents to provide the athlete with certain amenities: a place to train, medical facilities etc. Unless motivated for extraneous event such as Corona virus, threat of physical arm to another employee, Banning a player from training ground is basically viewed by various court of law as constructive dismissal. Clubs have tried that and they have all got sued and lost their trial in front of TAS (Tribunal Arbitral du Sport) often referred in English to CAS… Read more »

Rich

Ernest Reid This is why we should play hardball with Ozil. His agent is openly briefing not only against the club, but also against the manager. KSE need to step in, get him training on his own, and at different times to the rest of the squad. And if he’s got nice little earner lined up to the states in Jan? We should give him what he originally asked for, and make him see out his last 6 months. We can’t set a precedent of giving into players who throw temper tantrums, otherwise players will look to that in future,… Read more »

Ishola70

Rich

Again it is pointless to say he was our best CM. The CM has been trash overall

There can be a way to judge whether a player can be termed a good CM. How would Xhaka fare if he was asked to play actual central midfield for five EPL games on the spin? Not deep, not left but right bang centre of the pitch. Then after those five games come back and tell me he is worth all this bother.

Ernest Reed

Wholly geez Alex Cutter, you lost me at the cut and paste!

James wood.

Alex 16.07
That article and it’s contents.
Remind me of the book “War and Peace“🥴

Ashburton

We missed a a massive opportunity when inside a few weeks Jose and arteta were both available. One took the cheap option again, a former player (average one at that) that the fans would give a warm welcome. Jose would have divided the fan base, he’s said some poor things about arsenal. After a few weeks things would have settled down and we’d have a manager with a winning record who’s won it all,the board knows Jose would put them under strain to get top players in and that’s why they didn’t do it…look at spurs in the last window!!!!… Read more »

TR7

I don’r understand why managers prefer Xhaka to Elneny. I really don’t.

Ernest Reed

Buying out Ozil is likely not even being entertained, Rich. To your point, we have not seen or heard the last of this – Ozil and his band of Mimes are going to get their money, but he’s going to have to go to the very end and grow stale doing it. In the end it works for me, you want it this way, it goes this way, enjoy your hibernation tough guy.

Ashburton

Arsenal need to get ozil off twitter ASAP.. We pay him 1 million every 3 weeks to embarrass the club on a weekly basis. Shocking state of affairs.

Pierre

Dissenter
“the best attacking midfielder on the planet.”

Not at all , i would be more than happy if we brought in a player like coutinho or Eriksen who were both going through difficult times at their clubs.

As it stands , Ozil is still the best option for linking the play , until we find someone better , then he should play.

Ernest Reed

Pierre, you are as hopeless as you are hapless. You have no shame, bub.

Pierre

Ernie
“Wholly geez Alex Cutter, you lost me at the cut and paste!”

Maybe you should read it and it may enlighten you.

Marko

Unlike Ernest who seemingly can’t be arsed to actually read anything more than a short paragraph I appreciate the post Alex. I found it interesting though I will say that I don’t agree with the sentiment towards the article and I see no problem with clubs going down that route because otherwise you end up being forced to keep and play players who simply have no desire to leave and play elsewhere or in Ozils case play at all. Also Val I’ve seen players over the years be forced to train by themselves or with the under 23’s or whatever… Read more »

Graham62

Ashburton

No way would I want Jose at my club.

No frigging way!!

My choice was Ancelotti, not Arteta.

We needed someone who had done it all and got the T-shirt to prove it.

One other thing, Carlo wanted to come to Arsenal.

3 or 4 years of Ancelotti and we’d have been sorted.

Up 4 grabs now

Alex,

That’s was interesting, cheers for posting.

salparadisenyc

Last time Ozil was a world class attacking mid, Gordon Brown was still PM and Obama was half way into his first term.

Leave it.

Ernest Reed

I was merely pointing out that Alex is not known for such long posts, he usually is quick, sarcastic and quite funny.

Unlike both of you morons, who get on a point and beat it beyond the inch of life that it had. Get over yourselves, both of you have been moronic for well beyond the expected expiration of topixcs.

Up 4 grabs now

Graham,

I wanted Don Carlo as well.
The annoying thing is he was available when Wenger left and was available when emery got the boot as well.

MD-Gunner

@Marco You don’t know Jack get yourself a subscription to the Athletic and you will see if Ozil trains at Colney. From the Athletic: Are Arsenal and Ozil currently fulfilling their contractual obligations to each other? Yes. In any Premier League player’s contract, the club consents to provide the athlete with certain amenities: a place to train, medical facilities etc. They are doing that. The club are not, however, obliged to select Ozil, nor to register him for competition. For Ozil’s part, he continues to report to London Colney, as stipulated in his deal. He is still training regularly with… Read more »

Ishola70

Arteta needs to turn the ship around here. We need to see quite significant changes.

It’s not a case of just little tweaks.

Rich

Ishola70 At no point have I made the case for Xhaka being top class., I don’t think he’s terrible, he’s a slightly above average PL midfielder. But he has been our best available central midfield option over the past couple of years, which shows how poorly we’ve recruited. It also shows what poor options Emery and Arteta have had to work with. Which is the point i keep making, our squad really isn’t very good, we have the least dynamic team in the league, and Gabriel and hopefully Partey, have been signed to address that issue. The Partey signing has… Read more »

Up 4 grabs now

Pedro,
Yes they lost to Southampton away.
We lost at home to a team that had one attempt on target with three players out injured with there star striker on the bench.

And with Madison playing his first game of the season.
And with no real recognized striker.

Still backing arteta but as each game goes by and each strange decision appears.
And we keep dropping points, it’s getting harder to defend him
It’s starting to go the way of emery.

Valentin

Marko,

You said ban him from the training ground, not ban him from training with the first team.

Anyway it is a moot point, because we all know that he is not leaving until next summer.
However I would not be surprised if Arteta were to depart from Arsenal before him.

Ishola70

“get yourself a subscription to the Athletic”

You needed the Athletic to tell you that.

This worship of The Athletic is funny.

They are just journos who were around before and who you could read for free just a few years ago.

But now they are behind a pay wall their scribblings take on a golden hue.

Marko

You don’t know Jack get yourself a subscription to the Athletic and you will see if Ozil trains at Colney.

Yes the club is obliged sure he can train by himself or with the under 15’s if he likes

Ishola70

Rich

“The Partey signing has to work, and with Ceballos now settled, we’re hopefully not as reliant as we have been on Xhaka.”

Well it won’t work if what we saw last night is a taster of things to come. He was far too isolated on his own.

We need to see Ceballos actually operating centrally with him.

But as you say it is early days but it was a poor start by Arteta regarding the central midfield yesterday with Partey in the equation.

G8

On talksprt now the callers and ofcourse the ginger fucker Durham are calling the saucy one Unai Arteta lol
Could get ugly soon!

Marko

You said ban him from the training ground, not ban him from training with the first team

Well technically you said they can’t ban him from the training ground and I made a sarcastic comment about you knowing what’s in his contract. Read what’s actually written.

Plenty players before him have been forced to train by themselves or with younger groups and they should do the same with Ozil

Hector Gonzalez

The whole team are a farce…no desire, strength or guile. Arteta is an amatuer who has been given the responsibility to MANAGE a club with no experince at all. Looking forward to Arteta being sacked soon. Without doubt, Manchester United WILL beat Arsenal this weekend.

Sid

Ralph Hasenhuttl is the one,
if we were really had to go with inexperience Viera would command more respect and give younger players drive.

Rich

Ishola70 Arteta is doing the right things. Emery’s big mistake was trying to dump players, then bringing them, back. The clubs big mistake was not backing the manager in moving players on, and allowing Raul to recruit over Emery’s head, If Arteta goes with young players, and they’re not ready, then reverts back to the experienced players. They’ll go into self preservation mode, and throw him under a bus. Last night was a game that could have gone either way, the margins were small. I’ve always said top 4 was unlikely, but not impossible. But I still think sh*thousing our… Read more »

Marko

Ozil surviving another manager? Nah I think he’s used up all his lives now. We’ll be rid soon happy days

Hector Gonzalez

Xhaka is a complete and utter pile of shite!

Sid

Losing against southamptom makes Arteta better than Ancelloti?

Rich

Ishola70 Partey has trained at the club a week and a half. It’s the first time we’ve played that trio. The idea you can make any type of definitive judgement after 90 minutes is insane. Cohesion and stability are such underrated advantages. Squads are built through the transfer and youth systems, but they’re built on the training ground. If you think of our famous back 5, or the class of 93, what they had was cohesion and stability. We’ve had a huge turnover in terms of playing + back room staff over the past few years. We’re at the start… Read more »

Ishola70

No many are not of that opinion now Rich. That being that Arsenal can shithouse their way through the whole season.

And he is not doing the right things as that midfield set-up testified to yesterday if you could call it a central midfield.

Arsenal’s central midfield yesterday was Partey. That’s it. No more no less. If that continues there are going to be many fans and posters on here who will get very underwhelmed by the Partey signing and very quickly. At least give him some support centrally.

Valentin

Rich, I agree that Arsenal has poorly recruited. I said two summer ago that we buy players in a haphazard way with no idea how build a squad. I was hoping that with Raul gone and Edu now in charge, some football intelligence would be on show. However it looks like the same rigid, unplanned approach. Partey was the easiest deal to put in place. So it should have been concluded early. The idea that only top players can improve us and that therefore we should only go for our top targets is just a bad joke when in the… Read more »

Dissenter

Ishola “You needed the Athletic to tell you that.This worship of The Athletic is funny.They are just journos who were around before and who you could read for free just a few years ago.But now they are behind a pay wall their scribblings take on a golden hu” So true, having access to the Athletic is now like an ITK thing when these are washed up journo’s that bailed out to a small American site for more money. I don’t know anyone who pays for the subscription here in the states. I get it free from my phone company, my… Read more »

Graham62

Arteta………..Oops!! Sorry, I mean Pedro

Does it not concern you that we have regressed over these past two months?

Not only that, what about all these crazy decisions.

Answers please.

Ernest Reed

Bravo Rich!

Upstate Gooner

“We all have our “light bulb” moments.What’s yours?”

When Arteta came on for injured Flamini, scored an own goal and got injured himself in the process. Shit player doesn’t necessarily translate into shit manager but in our case, unfortunately it’s looking that way. Sitting next to Pep for 3 years apparently didn’t do much for him either.

GunnerDNA

“Arteta fucked up last night, but let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater”

The previous manager was sacked when his record was 3 defeat in 13 games and the present manager is 3 defeat in 6 games but “let’s not throw the baby out with the water”. Arsenal fans and logic 😂😂😂

Trask

What’s this nonsense now?

Arteta will be lucky and infinitely grateful to have the type of careers Jose and Carlo have had. Half that, even

Dissenter

GunnerDNA
So you would SACK Arteta for losing losing at home to Leicester 1-0 and for away losess to City & Liverpool?

You’re coming across as a bit frantic my man.

MidwestGun

Let’s give our guy time to work, and let’s back him, particularly against and players he deems not committed enough.
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I’ve been backing Arteta, but if your going it continue to play Xhaka with Partey and favor Mustafi over… well, anyone, really. I can’t help you.

Trask

they actually offered Mustafi a new contract

All you need to know about the club right there

Upstate Gooner

“lol, don carlo, beaten easily by southampton at the weekend, tanked Napoli, and was run out of Bayern by players who thought his training lacked intensity.Jose… lost at 3-0 lead to West HamArteta fucked up last night, but let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater” Just when I thought to myself that Pedro finally turned the corner with his honest and truthful analysis/assessment of last night’s game including players AND the manager, he posts this nonsense. I don’t care what Carlo or Jose are doing at their respective clubs. I do, however, care what Arteta is doing at… Read more »

MD-Gunner

To all those Ozil hatters in this thread: Since the start of the new season what we all have known for years Arsenal has NO play maker or attacking midfielder. The EL & PL squad has no one, naught, zilch player that can create chances, thus the futzing around with formation and we basically are at the same square were we were at the end of last season. When Arsenal plays as shitty as they did on Thursday and Sunday it is the Ozil supporters right and pleasure to take the stage front and center and gloat over the no… Read more »

MidwestGun

Ozil fan boys are relentless. If only he was on the pitch.

Rich

Valentin The only signing we can 100% link to Arteta is Partey. Mari, Soares and Willian with a 3yr deal were odd deals to say the least. It’s not just that the players we’ve scouted and recruited have largely been poor and we’ve massively over paid them. We’re the most one paced, and least dynamic side in the league, the profile of players we’ve signed has also been wrong, The PL is all about pace, power, aggression, stamina. And yet Lacazette + Pepe are €135million lightweights This isn’t an Arteta issue, maybe we can develop Pepe a bit? But it’s… Read more »

GunnerDNA

Dissenter, “GunnerDNA So you would SACK Arteta for losing losing at home to Leicester 1-0 and for away losess to City & Liverpool?You’re coming across as a bit frantic my man.” You’ll never understand bro, after 10 months if that’s all MIkel has to offer it’s best to cut our losses. It’s deeper than result, don’t agree with Perrie Ozil sentiments but read his post, most of what he’s saying is facts. He’s not stupid. MG, Saliba, Pepe, and LT should be apart if this Arsenal team and they’re not good enough according to baby Allardyce. Look at the players… Read more »

Trask

Would really love Nagglesman.

I bet he’d not have the team playing this turgid football

Pierre

Looking forward to seeing bissouma in midfield for brighton, very underated player who is technically superb and he has a bit of edge in his game…would love him at Arsenal.

Nelson

You could learn much more after a loss. How quickly Arteta can learn and improve the offense will decide the success of the club for this season. I still think that he’ll need help to setup the offense with the available players.

Le Sauce

Mustafi rejecting a contract offer from arsenal is funny isn’t it.
Arteta just got his ass saved by mustafi… That was a dumb decision tbh. Saliba should take mustafis place under normal circumstances

Le Sauce

I second your thoughts Pierre.. Always thought Arsenal would’ve gone in for bissouma if Partey didn’t come in. That guy is quite underrated