This is going to be a power-post because the week I’m having looks like Denilson in midfield against Stoke.
Mikel Arteta wants Arsene back at the club.
I would like to see him back around us. He was a massive figure for me and he’s someone that I can still learn a lot of things from and I would like to have him closer to us.
Obviously the actual environment doesn’t allow us to do it, but I think he’s a figure that has to be very present in what we do at the football club because he is, in my opinion, the one who had the vision and helped this club to evolve and be what it is today.
The man does not miss with the press. You cannot force him into an error, he’s very, very good with media folk. Pretty sure he’d not be wanting Wenger making decisions, but one day, you have to expect that Wenger will take on a Bobby Charlton like role at Arsenal. He’s an elite figurehead.
Mesut Ozil is now 32. Arsenal.com posted a miserable picture of him and wished him happy returns. All a bit sad really, he’s on the back 9 and clinging on at a club he doesn’t need to be at. It’s so, so boring.
THOMAS PARTEY IS TRAINING AND FIT. He might start, though I find that a bit of a stretch. He’ll be on the bench though… ready to ease our sorrows when we’re 3-0 down after 20 mins.
This game will be interesting. Coming back off the international break in great form is tough. Who knows which City will show. Arteta says they’ve been unlucky in games. No, they haven’t. Leicester spanked them and a team of their calibre shouldn’t be challenged by a side like Leeds. I don’t know what is going on at City, but they have been in a hangover. We could win 2-0 or get our asses absolutely handed to us. You just don’t know which side will show.
The big question mark over team selection will be whether Kieran T will play. It seems pretty clear the club are arguing he had it this summer, so he’s immune… so we’ll see how that pans out. Either way, it’s clear he’s integral to any success we might have. This sort of thing is exactly why international breaks through the season are a lump of bullshit.
Right, really short post. See you tomorrow. x
Valentin
Interesting but I didn’t think the Neanderthals made it to China either – my personal opinion and it is purely an opinion is the reason for “high death” rates in Europe & the US is down to having a large number of elderly and high obesity rates.
The United States has 8 million cases and close to 220,000 deaths.
Christ.
Approximately 35 000 dead people in France, of which 25 000 could have been avoided had the government done his job earlier.
They confined the whole population because they waited too long before they ordered or produced the masks and the tests.
Just saying
https://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2020/04/25/les-lecons-de-la-penurie-de-tests_6037752_3232.html
karim
That’s whats pissing me off at the moment over here – people are politicising this when lots of country’s are seeing a resurgence = France, Germany, Holland, Spain etc etc
Jim, pro-rata that’s about the same as the UK given that the population of the US is about five times that of the UK. Throw in the lack of decent healthcare provision for the poorest in the US and I’d say it compares favourably with the UK given that context.
Some tabloids are running stories that Arsenal is bidding to sign yet another central defender in January.
I really can’t believe we will sign Villarreal’s Pau Torres when we still do have an attacking midfielder.
Marc
I’m not anti-government for the sake of it but it does look like they waited for more than a month before following the WHO recommendations, unlike Germany for instance.
You want to have an idea about the guy’s wits ?
Just look at his jokes.
*Still do not have an attacking midfielder.
“Almost 60% of Africa’s population in 2019 is under the age of 25, making Africa the world’s youngest continent. According to the UN’s demographic projections, the median age in Africa is going to be 19.8 in 2020.“
Yea, but how old are they really.. you know, factoring in their glow and that?
19.8 soon becomes 28.4 I think you’ll find.
Anyway, let’s beat Pep again !
Dissenter
I can’t believe that, I think the fans will start to get pissed off if we do. It’s like having an alt version of Wenger back – we all know what we need and the manager keeps hoarding other positions.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1348557/Arsenal-news-Mikel-Arteta-Chelsea-Man-Utd-Tottenham-Liverpool-Man-City-Premier-League/amp
Man-like-Lescott going hard at the power rankings.
If we play four at the back with Luiz we will be done for. He will be sent off or we will ship at least three goals. He can’t do it anymore. It’s the main reason we started playing 3 at the back in The first place.
343 and we have a chance. 4 at the back with Luiz and we lose 3-1 at least.
Shutting down cities with 0.4% of the people having Covid with 98% recovery rate.
Utter madness.
No chance a CB is coming for another two seasons unless we sell 3 out of Chambers, Holding and Saliba. Luiz, Sokratis and Mustafi will be going for free next summer. Arteta has recently signed two CBs. Ceballos isnt our permanently and Arteta was looking for Aouar too. I expect all our money will still go to midfield and May be full back positions depending on how the season goes.
Dave gets it.
Valentin “Reading a controversial report on COVID-19 that states that bar the pre existing condition, the biggest factor to determine the impact of the disease on an individual is the presence of a specific Neanderthal gene.People with the gene have 60~80% chance of being put on ventilator if they got COVID. According to that study, People without the gene AND without pre existing condition rarely need hospitalisation.” What has happened to the same African origin people who are now living in UK and Europe ? Preferably if samples with similar lifestyles as whites are compared your theory could be confirmed.… Read more »
“Emiliano Martinez has claimed Arsenal offered him a contract to remain at the Emirates but he opted to join Aston Villa instead, speaking to DAZN.“
Hopefully this polemic is now put to bed?
“What has happened to the same African origin people who are now living in UK and Europe “
If you look at the numbers out of the US, black Americans are around 3x as likely
As white Americans to contract COViD. So it’s highly unlikely this anomaly in Africa is gene related. More likely, as mentioned, it’s down to the veracity of the data collected, cultural issues such as not flying off to Spain and Greece on holiday in the middle of a pandemic or standing around inside pubs in Liverpool while screaming drunk…
Dave
The Government’s caught between a rock and a hard place and I think they’re trying find a balancing act. If people keep pushing and the Tier system is dumped we end up with a circuit breaker lock down for a couple of weeks – problem is when rates spike again a month or two after we’ll have to keep repeating the circuit breaker lock downs.
I think a lot of the recent spike is down to students and morons not following the very simple rules that were in place and it’s fucking it up for everyone.
I think the main driving force behind any lockdown is to keep the illness at a level where the health service can cope. I don’t want any lockdowns but if no action is taken we could end up with queues of ambulances outside our hospitals.
It’s balancing health & wealth.
I think a lot of the recent spike is down to students and morons not following the very simple rules that were in place and it’s fucking it up for everyone.
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There are people who still don’t see the connection between themselves being young, fit and healthy and at no particular risk and passing the virus onto a family member or friend who is vulnerable.
Can anyone tell me why the masks are mandatory only after 10 am in the city I live in ?
Is the virus a late riser ?
Same at bars where you can put your mask off as soon as you sit but then you run the risk of paying a € 135 fine as soon as you stand up ?
The list goes on and on
How do you want people to follow the rules when the said rules are that dumb ?
I really do hope they go for The boz at Salzburg.For the midfield role.Reasonably priced & a future worldy Moreso than Aouar who’s been fluttering his eyes at Madrid & Juve.plus wouldn’t have to deal with that mad b’stards Aulas again….I believe they ( Salzburg) are willing sellers.Lets hope they’ve kept the loose change for a Christmas pressie 🤞
Left
I’m waiting for all the snowflake students whinging when they start killing off elderly relatives over Christmas.
It’s really not that difficult is it?
We have the Rule of six where you can’t meet in groups of more than six indoors or outside. So you could be in a group of six in the park and then, as an individual, walk over and join a group of five etc.
We would be a lot better off if we could all use common sense but unfortunately a fair few don’t seem to have it. Like the numpties walking around the supermarket with their hands over their nose and mouth or the ones wearing a face mask but only over their mouth.
*of no more than six indoors or outside
58,000 dead in the UK due to Covid-19. That’s very nearly a full Emirates Stadium.
Though if the figures were released by Arsenal they would insist it was full to capacity! 🙂
Marcus Rashford ‘won’t accept any less’ as school meals petition races past 200,000 names.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Why doesn’t he stick to playing football.
…or, if he’s so concerned, pay for the meals himself.
If we were doing only 100,000 tests per day we would be doing this stupid lockdown.
Everyone is brainwashed and fixated on numbers without comparing them with seasonal flu and pneumonia which is higher than this.
Average age if Covid deaths is 82.5 the average life expectancy is 81!
It is not killer for 98% of the population .
Ask yourselves what is going on.
Won’t be going to footy matches this season at all, Boris will see to it.
Eventually the money runs out, then what?
Dave
Did you see the official figures they published a few weeks ago showing deaths between Jan and end August comparing COVID, Pneumonia and Flu?
I found them very difficult to believe.
The data on Covid deaths is definitely off in many African countries, similar to many other parts of the world. What can’t be denied though is that the hysterical – and wishful in some quarters – predictions of millions of deaths hasn’t happened. That type of mass death cannot be kept under wraps any longer with today’s technology. And yes Africa indeed has a very young population.
Hi Marc In 2013 2014 winter 60,000 people died with flu and pneumonia and nothing was said about it. There are jabs for flu and pneumonia and most old folks have them.and still the numbers each year are the same. The survival rate is 98% overall what do they not understand? Jabs will never stop this virus it is now part of the human chain and won’t go away. The government have no long term strategy just knee jerk responses, like Boris just bumbling along . Hancock is our MP useless tosser if there was was one.. Only when the… Read more »
Ozil not in the 25 man squad list? Hell yeah. Arteta having Wenger back at the club? Hell no.
Debruyne ruled out because of injury!! Now I’m starting to feel like we can get a result in this game! He always kills us.
Most European governments have introduced similar measures to counter Covid.
Either they are all idiots or they’re on to something.
Dave
Official number for deaths 1st Jan till 31st August:
COVID – 48,168
Pneumonia – 13,169
Flu – 394
Now as our average deaths from Flu each year are usually 10,000 – 20,000 it either means that the norm is for almost all of them to happen Oct to December or last winter had an incredibly low rate of Flu.
It doesn’t seem to add up.
No debruyne or aguero? Our betes noirs.
If we play well we have a good chance of a result this weekend.
“Either they are all idiots or they’re on to something.”
All idiots! Its guys on football blogs who have it all sorted!
Marc, flu season is winter, so the UK hasn’t felt the full impact of flu and COViD together yet.
I would expect flu numbers to be lower as social distancing and face masks will reduce the spread which happens in the normal course of things.
Having said that, if those numbers are correct the flu data would seem to be wrong as it should pick up jan-March or whatever which is a flu hot spot.
Moray
Agree on what you say but that will be for this coming winter these numbers were for between 1st Jan and 31st August 2020 so there A) shouldn’t have been any COVID deaths in the Jan and Feb numbers we didn’t have it in the UK B) the Flu numbers can’t have been reduced by social distancing etc because it wasn’t in place at the start of the year.
Where were the other normal numbers of flu deaths? We either had a huge number in late 2019 or we’ve had really low flu deaths over winter 19 / 20?
“What has happened to the same African origin people who are now living in UK and Europe “
BCG Vaccination!
Finally the madness of pulling an international break at this moment is over, Le Grove will be stronger for it place goes to shit when Arsenal are on hiatus.
Just listened to the Wenger – Ornstein pod, not really shedding any new light.
Just listened to the Wenger – Ornstein pod, not really shedding any new light.
………………….
Still a tosspot.
Top 15 most valuable squads in the world according to Transfer Markt
1. Liverpool (£991.08m)
2. Manchester City (£971.64m)
3. Barcelona (£790.65m)
4. Bayern Munich £782.06m
5. Paris Saint-Germain £772.88m
6. Real Madrid £769.50m
7. Chelsea £760.41m
8. Manchester United £719.87m
9. Atletico Madrid £661.95m
10. Tottenham £660.20m
11. Juventus £621.18m
12. Inter Milan £616.59m
13. Arsenal £568.76m
14. Napoli £534.58m
15. Borussia Dortmund £528.53m
10. Tottenham £660.20m
13. Arsenal £568.76m
How…
“Arsenal defender Konstantinos Mavropanos, on loan at VfB Stuttgart, will require surgery on a meniscus injury that could lead to several missed games.”
Not having a lot of luck is he!
Actually feeling quite positive about our chances against city tomorrow. I just hope that we don’t continue with the insistence on playing out from the back if City are really pressing. It makes out games almost unbearable to watch.
Sid: how correct you are!
1. yes, arsenal is outright borefest. Without Ozil this borefest will only be more and more unbearable.
2. Arteta is a pathetically conservative manager. You can get a grip of the magnitude of this borefest when a Wenger hater starts imagining Wenger’s ideas of lending and attacking mindset could still bring in something interesting to this team.
Flu in most cases gives people pneumonia so that’s why the government lump them together. Doctors have included Covid on death certificates often without testing, they have just assumed it. So the numbers are not completely trustworthy. Even so this virus is not a big killer it’s made out to be. The WHO started this panic and now they are retracting saying lockdown doesn’t work Over one million people in the world have died so far out of 7.8 billion and 70 Million children have been born into the world in the past nine months . It all needs perspective… Read more »
Please don’t feed the troll.
We need to stop people breeding.
There is a lot of politicising and left wing media commentary criticising the government about our performance level regarding Covid. The United Kingdom has the highest rate of testing in Europe [excluding Russia] and the second highest rate of per capita testing after Denmark a significantly smaller country in area and population. Here is a comparison of the 4 most populated countries in Europe as of Wednesday. United Kingdom 28,677,578 tests 421,791 tests per million population Germany 19,276,653 229,859 France 12,710,000 194,594 Italy 13,077,827 216,393 Germany has over 80 million population, France and UK around 66 million and Italy 60… Read more »
Jim
Better stay at home and do as you’re told
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-oJt_5JvV4&feature=share
If I have one criticism of the Government it is that they need to communicate better with the public.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Didn’t they recently appoint a media spokesperson?
@karim –
Is this somehow related to the Kennedy assassination?!
…Allegra Stratton.
Introducing the new Ford Allegra Stratton.
Dave
“Flu in most cases gives people pneumonia so that’s why the government lump them together.”
But they didn’t on this report they had the 3 conditions separate which is not something I remember seeing before eg if we had 25,000 flu deaths one year does that mean there were additional deaths from Pneumonia?
Jim
Exactly my point
Emirates
As always bring a balanced view point.
“If I have one criticism of the Government it is that they need to communicate better with the public.”
This is critical – I’ve refused to watch BBC news for years – you might as well just read Socialist Worker but this year Sky News has gotten even worse – it’s an utter joke.
The Government needs to attack the media when they are reporting mis-truths or bullshit.
According to information I received from a friend who is a scientist at London School of Tropical Medicine the main mistake the government made was to delay the lockdown in
March by one or two weeks.
Exactly what I pointed out earlier btw
Marc,
Agreed re: Sky
I e-mailed them twice regarding BLM. I stated that they were a Political Movement and by constantly advertising on Sky Sports it compromises their position. I stated there was no problem with a slogan like Kick Out Racism but they shouldn’t be using the BLM slogan. They basically told me to do one.
Left
I can’t remember which film it was but a few weeks ago the description for a film on Sky Movies instead of giving an outline of the film had the “this film contains outdated themes yada yada”.
It’s like the snowflakes are taking over the world.
Like this?
https://news.sky.com/story/disney-warns-viewers-about-racist-stereotypes-in-classic-films-on-streaming-service-12105375
To be fair since the restart of the football, racism from the stands is said to be down by over 35%.
Looks like Pep without De Bruyne, Jesus and likely Aguero for this weekend.
Left
I saw that earlier it’s what reminded me of the film description.
Aussie
subject: Top 15 most valuable squads in the world according to TransferMarkt
“How?”
1. Wenger spent poorly
2. Raul’s spending was a mixed bag
3. the Academy hasn’t been producing enough top quality players
4. other clubs have spent even more money than we have
5. other clubs have spent their money more intelligently than we have
City 1
Arsenal 2
My favourite thing at the moment is listening to commentators tripping over themselves trying not to attribute racial stereotyping to players! There will be no “strong” or “powerful” runs from Partey!! 😂
“subject: Top 15 most valuable squads in the world according to TransferMarkt”
Are these arbitrary valuations or what the club paid for each player?
To be fair since the restart of the football, racism from the stands is said to be down by over 35%.
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🙂
To be fair since the restart of the football, racism from the stands is said to be down by over 35%.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Surprised it has gone down that much with John Terry on the bench at Villa.
The slogan should be…
Let’s all be nice to each other.
Slogans are a waste of time any way. As if some loud mouth racist thug is going to change his/her views because of a slogan appearing at the top of the screen.
Left
What even to Scouser’s?
Jim
Neither. They are based on what the writers / editors at Transfermarkt think the value of the player is today. For example, we signed Pepe for £72m but they have him listed at £34m today. That’s not “arbitrary”; that’s their opinion on his market value. Yes, that makes it somewhat subjective, but subjective and arbitrary are two totally different things, and the better the publication, the more accurate its assessments.
Good point.
Let’s all be nice to each other*
*Does not include scousers,mancs, chavs and spuds
Aussie
subject: Top 15 most valuable squads in the world according to TransferMarkt
Sorry, allow me to add:
6. Wenger mismanaged contracts (see Ozil, Alexis and Ramsey, for example)
7. Wenger may not have developed talent as well as he could have (see Walcott, for example)
8. Wenger may have mismanaged players in such a way that they suffered career-hampering injuries (see Wilshere and Ramsey, for example) they wouldn’t have suffered if they had been properly managed
*and Jane McDonald
@Bamford –
Bamford either way its trash. There is no way to quantify a players value. A bunch of lads have gone into a room and spitballed what they think each player is worth? How is anyone meant to take this seriously?
A player is worth what a club is prepared to pay at a point in time.
eg August 2016 / Shkodran Mustafi / £35m
“My favourite thing at the moment is listening to commentators tripping over themselves trying not to attribute racial stereotyping to players! There will be no “strong” or “powerful” runs from Partey!!”
I noticed this, and it is kind of funny. Now even if a black player is all speed and not much else, they specifically mention his intelligence just in case.
I noticed this, and it is kind of funny. Now even if a black player is all speed and not much else, they specifically mention his intelligence just in case.
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Couldn’t use the ‘intelligence line when referring to Walcott.
“Jim LaheyOctober 16, 2020 15:50:51
“subject: Top 15 most valuable squads in the world according to TransferMarkt”Are these arbitrary valuations or what the club paid for each player?”
Jim, a combination of factors like what league and position a players plays in, his age, form and performance as it relates to other players in similar leagues and positions is taken under consideration while evaluating players worth.
Totally agree with Jim, Transfermarkt is trash. Its run and created by football enthusiast from around world whom are able to alter as they wish similar to Wikipedia, christ at one point I had Midwest Gun on the Puma sponsored athlete page.
Banter.
Jim “There is no way to quantify a player’s value.” You’re joking, right? This is what executives at every club on the planet do every day. How do you think clubs arrive at a fee for a player? By quantifying the value of the player. As for Transfermarkt, I assume they speak to contacts at clubs, scouts, etc., just like journalists do when they write things like, “the player is valued at an estimated …”. Transfermarkt may have in-house analytical people as well. I don’t know. Do you think their valuation for Pepe (£34m) is unfair or inaccurate? If so,… Read more »
@Tom –
But a lot of these variables you have listed are unquantifiable. Consider “what league”, how do we distinguish the quality between leagues? Is it a way that can be replicated and produce the same results each time or is it personal opinion, like the Premier League is better than La Liga therefore X,Y,Z.
Jim
Maybe it’s trash or isn’t.
Last time I checked Transfermarkt though, they haven’t given any Covid guidance or political commentary regarding presidential chances for Trump or Biden , so maybe these guys actually specialize at one thing and one thing only, which might just make them a bit more knowledgeable about it than most around these parts.
ES
Fair points on Covid.
The government’s response hasn’t been as bad as the Guardian would like most people to believe.
Boris and co. have made errors but the mitigating circumstances you’ve mentioned are valid.
I do believe that much of the criticism has been politically motivated and has become part of the rather nasty, counterproductive, post Brexit political discourse in Britain.
“Wenger may not have developed talent as well as he could have (see Walcott, for example)”
Lets forget the others that he did develop..
Sal Even if it’s just football enthusiasts, it would still tell you what the average avid football watcher thinks of this or that player. Now, that obviously may differ from what executives at this or that club think or what the market at that moment thinks, but that doesn’t mean their current market valuation is “worthless”. I mean, look at Pepe: do you think his valuation has increased, decreased or stayed the same since arriving at Arsenal? I’ll tell you: it has definitely decreased. The only question is by how much. One should obviously take Transfermarkt’s valuations with a grain… Read more »
@Bamford –
“You’re joking, right? This is what executives at every club on the planet do every day. How do you think clubs arrive at a fee for a player? By quantifying the value of the player”
Okay, stop being vague and give me a run-through of the process.
“Do you think their valuation for Pepe (£34m) is unfair or inaccurate? If so, what valuation would you assign to him and why? ”
I wouldn’t know, Bamford. I am not a club executive!
If you were the buying club would value him a lot less than the selling club.
There are too many variables and unknowns.
Variables eg if there wer seven clubs after a player he would fetch more money than if one club were after him.
Or if Man City came in for a player you’d lump another £10m on.
Or if the club were desperate for cash they would accept less.