Partey time?

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This is going to be a power-post because the week I’m having looks like Denilson in midfield against Stoke.

Mikel Arteta wants Arsene back at the club.

I would like to see him back around us. He was a massive figure for me and he’s someone that I can still learn a lot of things from and I would like to have him closer to us.

Obviously the actual environment doesn’t allow us to do it, but I think he’s a figure that has to be very present in what we do at the football club because he is, in my opinion, the one who had the vision and helped this club to evolve and be what it is today.

The man does not miss with the press. You cannot force him into an error, he’s very, very good with media folk. Pretty sure he’d not be wanting Wenger making decisions, but one day, you have to expect that Wenger will take on a Bobby Charlton like role at Arsenal. He’s an elite figurehead.

Mesut Ozil is now 32. Arsenal.com posted a miserable picture of him and wished him happy returns. All a bit sad really, he’s on the back 9 and clinging on at a club he doesn’t need to be at. It’s so, so boring.

THOMAS PARTEY IS TRAINING AND FIT. He might start, though I find that a bit of a stretch. He’ll be on the bench though… ready to ease our sorrows when we’re 3-0 down after 20 mins.

This game will be interesting. Coming back off the international break in great form is tough. Who knows which City will show. Arteta says they’ve been unlucky in games. No, they haven’t. Leicester spanked them and a team of their calibre shouldn’t be challenged by a side like Leeds. I don’t know what is going on at City, but they have been in a hangover. We could win 2-0 or get our asses absolutely handed to us. You just don’t know which side will show.

The big question mark over team selection will be whether Kieran T will play. It seems pretty clear the club are arguing he had it this summer, so he’s immune… so we’ll see how that pans out. Either way, it’s clear he’s integral to any success we might have. This sort of thing is exactly why international breaks through the season are a lump of bullshit.

Right, really short post. See you tomorrow. x

 

 

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  1. TheBayingMob

    Mikel Arteta wants Arsene back at the club.”

    No

    No no no no no no

    No no no no no no no no no no no no no no

    What’s the point?

  2. Upstate Gooner

    That’s a really late post by Pedro’s standards tonight. Wheel of Fortune is still on the air… followed by Jeopardy. Make sure to tune in.

  3. Tony

    Did I miss any Arteta decision on where Saliba is going to play?

    Seems since Partey signed it’s gone quiet on the Saliba front.

    What could Arteta learn from Wenger? Go express yourselves tactics? Bringing back the Colney creche? Tikka Takki crab football? Almost signing elite players? Best Spedos to wear on the beach?

    The list is endless!

  4. Bamford10

    Pete

    Actually, I think the club’s argument re Tierney is that he has tested negative three times since his teammate tested positive and the club will be driving him to London in a private car.

  5. Upstate Gooner

    Another dig at Ozil? It’s getting boring. He’s gonna sit on his arse and collect his paycheck… and rightfully so, I might add. And.only the most pathetic hypocrite would say he’d do differently. Play him or pay him off to go away.

  6. Bamford10

    Churlish

    The comments section of Le Grove is for talking about Arsenal and football, not for harassing other posters. Get a fucking life, mate. Your obsession with me is bizarre, and your questions are fucking dumb. You’ve heard of DM’ing, no? You’ve heard of copy and paste? It’s not that complicated, dipshit. Now, please say something of value about Arsenal or football, or kindly fuck off. Seriously. You’re fucking weird, mate.

  7. Bamford10

    Churlish

    Let’s return to the subject of football: I will reiterate that I’m glad to see you’ve come around to our view that Lacazette isn’t good enough, that Aubameyang should start through the center, and that Lacazette should be sold. Some of us saw this two years ago.

  8. Bamford10

    Upstate

    One, the club has asked Ozil to make himself open to going elsewhere and he has refused. So your description of the situation isn’t accurate.

    Two, Ozil has clearly done something to cause him to be persona non grata in Arteta’s eyes, and no, it has nothing to do with China.

    Three, an honest person who respected the club would not sit around like a leech, serving as a distraction and dividing the fan-base. You might do that, but no self-respecting or club-respecting person would. Only a person who cares only about himself and his ego and money would do that. And that is apparently who Mesut Ozil is.

    It was obvious years ago that he is a spoiled fucking brat — see, among other moments, the City match when he didn’t want to thank the away fans and Mertesacker laid into him for it — and he has been dead as a footballer for years now. It’s just that guys like you somehow didn’t pick up on any of this. How, I have no idea, but of course, this is a club where more than half the fan-base continued to sing songs about a manager long after it was clear he was fucking clueless.

  9. AFC Forever

    “Im glad to see you’ve come around to our view that Lacazette isn’t good enough, that Aubameyang should start through the center, and that Lacazette should be sold. Some of us saw this two years ago.”

    Ouch. What a nasty, condescending attitude. I have never seen someone some intolerant of other people’s opinions as you. You are not a pleasant individual..

    I was going to contribute on here but not when you’re treating everyone like shit on the bottom of your shoe. What is the point giving an opinion on anything, if your opinion is the only that’s right.

  10. Bamford10

    Marc

    “any CM we have is going to have to sit deep to cover for Xhaka. The idea that having a midfield of Partey, Xhaka and Ceballos is suddenly going to have one or two CM’s pushing play up the field – which is what we all want to see – is not going to happen.”

    One, if we do see a three-man midfield at some point in the near future, I could see Arteta playing Xhaka as the 6, Partey as the 8 and Ceballos as the 10. It’s not perfect, but it wouldn’t be bad, and it would be a hell of a lot better midfield-wise than what we’re currently doing.

    Two, to play a three-man midfield, we need to be playing with a back four, and to play with a back four, Arteta needs to believe he has a reliable CB pairing. It remains a little unclear (to me, at least) what this pairing would be. I guess it could be Luiz + Gabriel, but I just don’t know whether you can really rely on Luiz in a back four at this point.

  11. Bamford10

    Forever

    You have the world turned on its head. I put up with endless shit from certain quarters (Charlie, Luteo, etc.) and I only occasionally answer in kind.

    You are free to express any opinion you like. If I disagree with you, I promise to be cordial. And as long as you are cordial to me, I will gladly be cordial to you in return. Cheers.

  12. Luteo Guenreira

    Lol fucking Charlie broke him again. Think this is like the 6th time over the years.

    How many days do you think Bam had that post as Dariano ready for us before he actually pulled the trigger? I’m guessing 2 months minimum.

    To Bamford, LeGrove is the father that will never accept him but he forever wants to impress.

    I remember once he referred to all the “friends” he had here and named them. Not surprisingly not a single one corroborated that claim though. Crickets.

    Bamford who are your “friends” here again?

  13. Dissenter

    I have to say I’m loving Mikel Arteta more and more as the days go by.
    He’s showing the strength of purpose that a good manager ought to have.
    He’s leaving out Mesut Ozil from the premier league squad, effectively making him a footballing nonentity. He’s not going to use Arsenal and a spring board to getting another lucrative deal else where next summer. It will be. case of caveat emptor
    A manager with cojones=Mikel Arteta

  14. Champagne charlie

    “I’m glad to see you’ve come around to our view that Lacazette isn’t good enough“

    I literally dismissed this at least twice. But out of curiosity? who is “our view”? I appreciate the answer is staring me right in the face of course…… (hey Dariano and Bam)

    Also, major lol at you lecturing me on Le Grove etiquette given your greatest hits include:

    – bumming OGS and Emery mid-flame-spiral
    – having condescension as your defining personality trait
    – creating an alter ego to ‘collect’ wager debts from a year prior
    – wagering against the failure of Arsenal
    – being the power ranking pleb to illustrate your bias
    – harassing the owner of the blog on and then taking it to Twitter to smear his work (and the blog itself) tag various journalist profiles all the while.

    You sir, have precisely zero clout in telling anyone what to do, or how to act, on here. Your football knowledge is sourced entirely from the ‘dude trust me’ chronicles, and your entire persona is meretricious as it gets.

    Reel it in Damford.

  15. Luteo Guenreira

    Dissenter

    Like Pedro said the man has been impeccable with the media starting with his first interview. Growing pains in terms of managing the team will obviously be there as it’s his first real crack at it, but he’s going to only get better with time. He’s got the sauce, he’ll be in high demand as a coach for the rest of his career.

  16. Champagne charlie

    Arteta pisses the excellence that Ole drinks.

    Man is playing chess to the press room checkers, superb linguist and artist in the media room. You know he’s a thinker when his deliberations when injured as a player were to learn another language or deep dive coaching.

    I’m genuinely enthused to see his evolution with us because there’s an authenticity to his approach that invites fans into his thinking and provides the necessary assurance that the right sort is driving matters. Big, big factor for where the club was/is and beyond. Hopefully Edu can enable the best of that to the surface and the pair can deliver a journey of success for us all once again.

  17. Bamford10

    Luteo

    I get along with many, many posters here. In fact, it’s only a small few that I don’t get along with. You lot, who harass me constantly. I don’t have “friends” here because I’m not a dork who uses the internet to make friends. I come here, like most posters, to talk about Arsenal and football, not to make friends. I have plenty of friends in the real world; I don’t need internet friends.

    You do your thing and I’ll do mine. If you don’t mind, though, I would appreciate it if you would stop harassing me and insulting me for no reason. It’s lame, and it’s annoying. Thanks.

  18. Wolfgang

    These are early days but u can see the difference.
    Arteta does not play tiki taka all the time.
    There is variation.
    Its about time Arsenal beat MC.

  19. Luteo Guenreira

    Yes exactly it’s dork behaviour. You specifically said friends though, and you named them. Why don’t you try again then, remind me who they were?

    And Bam similar to you I treat posters how they ask to be treated with their content. If you’ve been treated like a cheap pissmop it’s because you’ve asked for it. Refer to Charlie’s list if you don’t believe me.

  20. Upstate Gooner

    Hilarious, really. Chumps who make peanuts hypothetically discuss how they would give away millions for the “love” of the game or whatever they think it is. I remember meeting this delusional Liverpool fan in Cancun years ago who said that Stevie G. would play for free because how much he loved football. You realize it’s a job for them, don’t you? Ozil is an employee of the club, and he’s under contract. Why would he give up millions of dollars? I said it before and I’ll say it again. No one.. and I mean No One in his shoes would do the same. Fucking hypocrites.

  21. Bamford10

    Luteo

    One, Pete has rules, and harassing and insulting another poster is in violation of them. It doesn’t matter what you think of that poster’s commentary. I don’t like Pierre’s commentary, but I don’t use that as an excuse to harass and insult him. You don’t get to make your own rules here. Sorry.

    Two, most of Charlie’s list is bogus. Most of what he has said there is either (i) factually incorrect or (ii) simply his opinion and therefore irrelevant.

    So again, I’d appreciate it if you would stop harassing and insulting me. Thanks.

  22. Luteo Guenreira

    Bamford

    Ugh god please stop threatening me with your cowardice. And stop lecturing me about LeGrove.

    Everything I’ve ever said about you has been in reference to something that has happened or been said on Legrove. I speak about the content, and what the content says about you. When have I insulted you directly where it wasn’t a back and forth? Show me, give me a list. Let’s hear what’s banworthy from your own mouth.

  23. Tony

    Upstate
    I’d stick to watching Wheels of Fortune and Dancing with Stars as football is obviously not your bag, especially stating you’ve only been a fan for 20 years and only know Wenger as a manager.

    You might want to look into the rest of Arsenal’s 100+ years history.

    As many have said here recently you’re clueless.

  24. Luteo Guenreira

    Of all the ways to handle it I can’t believe he’s taking the “middle aged American white woman” Karen tactic. For fucks sake. You know what I’m sorry Bamford. Of course you’re entitled to whatever you want. Enjoy the rest of your evening in your yoga pants.

  25. Luteo Guenreira

    DNA

    I’m not sure you would understand this analogy, but he tries to turn the pub into his own personal court room no matter what the topic is. He’s a Karen. I just have a natural aversion I guess.

  26. GunnerDNA

    Luteo,

    I don’t need to understand anything you’re saying. What you’re doing is lame asf. You keep attacking a fan who lives in the same country as you to be popular amongst dudes you will never meet in life. You’re basically trying to bully the dude because of his opinions, that’s some sucker ish! You probably don’t know that’s it’s you who’s behaving like Karen.

  27. Luteo Guenreira

    Like I said you wouldn’t understand, you’re very much like him. If you don’t understand then stop trying to, all you’re doing right now is trying to rally more bickering after the crowd has already dispersed. Get a life and find your own battles to fight.

  28. GunnerDNA

    Luteo,

    I’m just pointing out that you’re another empty barrel who hides behind the key board and project your insecurities. Bamford is a Harvard graduate and I’m from the Trenches, we aren’t the same, so continue guessing. Go prepare for work in the AM!

  29. Luteo Guenreira

    DNA

    What are my insecurities and how have they projected onto Bamford? Please tell me with that psych degree from the school of hard knocks you earned out of the Trenches.

  30. Guns of SF

    I wonder if Xhaka starts on Sat.
    Could Arteta keep him on the bench?
    Try Saka as a 10?

    4231

    _______Leno_______
    Bell__Luiz___Gabriel____Kt/AMN
    _____Dani___Partey
    Willian____Saka______Auba
    ________Laca_________

  31. Guns of SF

    Nah I think we stick to our counter attacking line up

    3-4-3

    Although, I would love Arteta to take a chance and go for the attack. We do need to get better when we push the ball…. and attack.

  32. Tai The Gunner

    I know one or two people have commented on your appalling attitude but Bamford 10, not sure who the hell you think you are ??.

    Everybody has a right to their own opinion so cannot understand where the rudeness is coming from.

  33. Sid

    Partey is not a box to box, he is a DM that plays in a team that does not play expansive football.
    1. We will still play the same borefest football since we lack technical creative players.

    2. We will only have options in holding midfielders Elneny, Xhakalson, Partey. We were an injury away from disaster in this area.

  34. Sid

    We will continue playing 343 against top teams, against weaker defensive teams Arteta will try more attacking lineups especially in the 2nd half. He is an extremely conservative manager.

  35. Guns of SF

    Partey with every team but AM plays as a B2B, with some good success.
    There are numerous folks that state this from teammates to coaches etc.
    For Ghana he is a B2b and with good scoring rate.

    AM is a very rigid system. I think the draw with Arsenal is that we need some better movement, power and technical skills in the middle. He checks those, so i am sure Arteta considered this and his other “skills” that are not on show case that much.

    I clearly agree tho, a CAM is what we need badly now. I think we will get one tho….

  36. Habesha Gooner

    I wish arteta can move to a back four now we have partey. Having an extra defender/midfielder like AMN and Saka is good but I think we might have more penetration with a winger instead of that. I also want to see Auba through the middke dlanked by saka and pepe and willian behind him.

    If everyone was fit this would be my team.

    Leno
    Bellerin, Luiz, Gabriel, Tierney
    Partey, Ceballos
    pepe, Willian, Saka
    Auba

    I think we can definitely breakdown most defensive teams with this. But for city a 343 is merited

    Leno
    Holding, Luiz, Gabriel
    Bellerin, Partey, Ceballos, AMN
    pepe/saka Willian
    Auba

  37. CazOnARola

    Transitions are the most important aspect of the game in the sense that how you perform on those invariably has an impact on the game.

    Transitions include cutting of counter stracks but also launching you own and catching opposition out of shape.

    If your see Partet he ticks the boxes in both.

    I’m not worried about him getting used to epl, but more about how quickly he adapts to his team mates.

    The central half spaces are the most dangerous as you can pass the ball to either wings and open up teams.

    Partey has a habit of releasing the ball very quickly into pockets of half spaces when playing for athletico. But the pbm is while atletico players hold the ball under pressure drawing fouls or releasing team mates, arsenal have very few players that can hold the ball under pressure in central areas barring Lacazette and Ceballos.

    He needs to quickly adapt and learn to only pass in wide areas of to players who can actually hold the ball rather than passing to open men in dangerous positions and most players lack the close control and strength that he himself has.

    He will still be able to make a difference on the offense because of his long strides and strength in the dribble which will allow him to carry the ball.

  38. SP

    The upcoming league fixture are extremely important. City away , Leicester home and United away. So don’t think Arteta will tinker with the formation. 3-4-3 is what it’s going to be.

  39. SP

    Atleast the fans feel confident now despite these tough fixtures. Under Wenger such games used to result in humiliation.

  40. Sid

    Partey is a good DM average as a box to box, he can hold the ball but is questionable in the final 3rd thats why Saul is box to box for AM.

  41. Sid

    Expect many draws , opposition managers now know Artetas tactics.
    If the manager is confident enough to use Pepe and Saka on the wings frequently thats they only way to catch oppisition managers offguard.

  42. Pierre

    How Arsenal approach the game tomorrow depends on one player ….Debruyne.

    If Debruyne is starting , then we mist protect the space between centre back amf full back as he is lethal of he is allowed to drift into the channwl to whop on crosses.

    Will mean we will have to play with a wing back system with our left wing back playing very deep to thwart Debruyne.

    If Debruyne is injured, we can approach the game with a slightly different mentality and be more aggressive offensively and possibly even take to game to city.

    I believe that City without Debruyne and Aguero are a pretty average side and can be got at..
    They have lost company and David silva and without Debruyne will have no leader on the pitch and no one to dictate the play for them.

  43. london gunner

    Partley won’t be played as a starter. 100%

    Arteta is a conservative manager (not a dig and he is probably conservative based on pragmatism, the context of where we are as a club right now rather than an innate nature aka simeone)

  44. london gunner

    We should have tried to sell Pepe and brought in benrahma of brentford fame.

    Before you go he was playing in the championship so was fucking Vardy.

  45. Pierre

    DNA
    “Luteo
    I don’t need to understand anything you’re saying. What you’re doing is lame asf. You keep attacking a fan who lives in the same country as you to be popular amongst dudes you will never meet in life. You’re basically trying to bully the dude because of his opinions, that’s some sucker ish! You probably don’t know that’s it’s you who’s behaving like Karen.”

    Exactly…

  46. Emiratesstroller

    Arsenal have an exceedingly difficult “away” fixture list in the first half of season. We lost the
    first test in EPL losing to Liverpool and our next game is on Saturday when we face Man City
    who are considered the other club most likely to win the Title this season.

    So the million dollar question is whether we can achieve a result there other than defeat? Our record there in the League in recent season seasons has not been great.

    This is an important test for Arsenal if we are going to move up the table this season and challenge for top 4 place and Champions League Football.

    What has changed at Arsenal despite some of the negative posts on LG is that since Arteta
    arrived at the club our “ambition and expectation” has risen. The club is now expected to be
    competitive something that has not been evident for a long time.

    I still believe that we have some way to go before we are genuine title contenders. Arsenal
    can now compete in one off Cup Games as we showed at end of last season, but I have yet
    to be convinced that we can maintain that process throughout an entire season.

    There is some evidence that we are putting together a squad with a combination of experience, quality recruitment with arrival of Partey and Gabriel and of course some very
    talented young players like Saka, Martinelli and hopefully Saliba.

    I believe that there are holes in our squad which need to be filled. The most obvious is a top
    quality right centre back and a top quality playmaker who can deliver in central midfield
    assists and goals. Also I remain concerned about the second string goalkeeper should Leno
    get injured or lose form.

    Overall I think that we are moving in right direction and the target this season should be a top 4 place in league which is achievable.

  47. China1

    I’m fine with wenger coming back in a ceremonial role a few years down the line but only provided we’ve already won or competed for some bigger titles by then so we don’t find ourselves with him whispering bad ideas into the ears of josh

    But as an ambassador of whatever when the dust is a bit more settled I think is a great idea. Needs more time tho. And no power. Two key points

  48. Aussie+Gooner

    I would like to eventually see this line up:

    Leno
    Bellerin Saliba Gabriel Tierney
    Partey Ceballos
    Pepe Abu Saka
    Abu

  49. Emiratesstroller

    london gunner

    Arsenal need a “focussed and pragmatic” manager. You don’t win league titles without that
    approach.

    Benrhama may or may not be someone who is an upgrade on what we have go, but his track
    record is playing in a lower league and he would be a speculation.

    If Arsenal are going to progress in short term we need to recruit “proven talent” in the two
    positions along spine where we are at moment weak.

  50. AFC Forever

    Emirates, you make a good point.

    We all have to remember Arteta has inherited most of these players. A lot of his work is coaching them in the way he wants to work which takes time. There will be positions that cause him a problem because the players he has aren’t best suited for that. It is also difficult to build partnerships between players if, again, they aren’t long term. This is why it takes Managers time. What doesn’t help are the fans who demand instant results and thing football is simply a case of picking what they consider are the best 11 players. It’s not it’s about picking the best ‘team’.

    arsenal is a work in progress. The signs are good and he knows he needs to fix the creativity, let’s face he was at man City for years and one thing they do is create! He prioritised the defensive structure and made us more solid, something we had all been demanding. The sacrifice has been on the creative side but Partey will help with that. Cabellos has been playing really deep so he will be pushed more advanced I suspect or may alternate with Partey, who himself is excellent with the ball.

    The spine is better but I feel for Lacazette who is being asked to do a role not best suited to him. Those who criticise him forget he is doing a role for the team and he should be applauded for that, he’s outscored Auba too. Auba is not being best used, again that’s because of how Arteta has focused on defence rather than attack. We shall have to be patient but at least we’re not as soft as we used to be.

  51. Kris

    “Obviously the actual environment doesn’t allow us to do it,”

    LOL
    Arteta will go into politics one day, no doubt about it.
    But, yeah, wait a couple of years, then give Wenger a role that doesn’t involve any important decisions.

    Also, Partey definitely IS a B2B, but not at Atletico as Saul is the kind of B2B Atletico needs to counterbalance their already extremely defensive approach. For EPL Partey is perfect for B2B, though.

  52. Nelson

    I guess Arteta will play Auba, Laca and Willian as our front three. He won’t trust Saka and Pepe yet. Pepe may sub in for Laca after 75 mins if we are behind.

  53. AFC Forever

    Nelson
    Yes, likely to play Lacazete because he trusts him. Works hard to pressing for the team & Arteta usually withdraws him when he feels he is spent. At the moment he probably sees Pepe as a game changer, again probably trusts Willian more.

  54. Jim Lahey

    “I guess Arteta will play Auba, Laca and Willian as our front three. He won’t trust Saka and Pepe yet. Pepe may sub in for Laca after 75 mins if we are behind.”

    Nothing like benching a player who has just scored then complaining about his inconstancy

  55. Emiratesstroller

    AFC Forever

    Lacazette may not be world class, but he is an intelligent striker and more than capable of scoring 15-20 goals a season. At the moment I don’t think that Nketiah is capable of delivering goals in EPL games at similar level.

    Personally I think that Martinelli will outperform both these players when he reaches maturity.

    Pepe’s performance when he played against Sheffield United suggests to me that he has the
    potential to perform to a high level. However, his performance level is currently erratic. He
    needs to be more consistent than we have seen sofar.

  56. london gunner

    Emirates

    I fully agree on this point

    “Arsenal need a “focussed and pragmatic” manager. You don’t win league titles without that
    approach.”

    That’s exactly what I meant.

    Regarding lower league talent I think that’s where the best deals can be made for the future. Gone are the times the championship was full of Donkeys. You can essentially get premier league to elite-level talent now for cut-rate prices.

    Benrama will b

  57. shaun

    Laca will definitely start the weekend and get a goal , you heard it here first and if that Sid joker turns up don’t listen to his bollocks

  58. Jim Lahey

    @Bamford –

    “or (ii) simply his opinion and therefore irrelevant.”

    Bamford, I don’t mean this to come off as antagonistic, but could you not learn a bit from your own statement? Most of what you contribute on here is your own opinion (like everyone else) and is therefore irrelevant to others.

  59. Emiratesstroller

    london gunner

    The first phase at Arsenal is to recruit top quality players to complete the process of building
    a starting X1 followed by filling places on our bench and squad.

    My personal view is that we are two players short in our first eleven and one player short in
    the bench [goalkeeper].

    The second phase is recruitment into the Academy. This is based on scouting both domestically and internationally.

    Decisions appear to have been made to shift out of U23 squad no fewer than 12 players and
    currently this team is languishing at the bottom of Table.. It would be interesting to learn
    why that decision was made.

  60. Daniel Altos

    sorry for going off football but I had to..I see alot of ‘experts’ on CNN and BBC thinking out loud why people in Africa aren’t dying like flies like they predicted. Offering all kinds of insights as to why;Maybe Africans have strong bodies,maybe poverty has exposed them to alot of deadly diseases that they can handle covid,they are not testing enough etc…but then again I see hundreds of people partying in Liverpool the other day and I think to myself,maybe it’s just simple,maybe the Africans are actually following simple rules like wearing masks,washing hands and being socially distant?

  61. london gunner

    Daniel Altos

    Almost 60% of Africa’s population in 2019 is under the age of 25, making Africa the world’s youngest continent. According to the UN’s demographic projections, the median age in Africa is going to be 19.8 in 2020.

    Couple that with highler levels of vitamin D due to sun exposure.

    Doubt it’s got anything to do with being socially distant.

  62. Marc

    Daniel

    I think you’re spot on – we’ll have all the northern monkey’s bitching in a couple of weeks about dead relatives and blaming London for it.

  63. Daniel Altos

    london gunnerOctober 16, 2020 11:44:30
    Daniel AltosAlmost 60% of Africa’s population in 2019 is under the age of 25, making Africa the world’s youngest continent. According to the UN’s demographic projections, the median age in Africa is going to be 19.8 in 2020.Couple that with highler levels of vitamin D due to sun exposure.Doubt it’s got anything to do with being socially distant.

    I know all this but we still have plenty of old people who are not dying from covid.My point is how these scientists kept on telling us how people here will die in huge numbers and now that it ain’t happening they are making up all kinds of stuff.When they were making these predictions didn’t they know that Africa has the youngest median age in the world?Maybe I am not that well informed on the matter but I keep alot of interest in English affairs since I once lived in Enguurland and I generally loved it apart from the shit weather and some racism(and US) but the level of public disobedience am seeing is staggering coupled with being led by a clearly sick man.

  64. Daniel Altos

    MarcOctober 16, 2020 11:45:37
    DanielI think you’re spot on – we’ll have all the northern monkey’s bitching in a couple of weeks about dead relatives and blaming London for it.

    Exactly,plus the scenes from Liverpool were absolutely shocking

  65. Valentin

    Stroller,

    The decisions and the new direction with the academy are clear for anybody who was following it.

    Players with potential considered as physically ready for a loan in the lower league have been loaned out to selected clubs. They will play in the instructed position and in the agreed setup. Hopefully they will come back ready to be on the fringe of the first team.

    But sending the most promising players on loan has created a vacuum at U23 level. In order to fulfill its fixture with Premiership2, Arsenal bought a raft of new players. Those can be divided into two categories. The potential future stars and the no hoper fillers.

    The future stars are players who have shown in previous clubs and international tournament that they could become world class player. They will spend at least one year in London to fully acclimate to Arsenal methods and style of play.

    The fillers players have no chance of making it Arsenal. Most of those players were not star in the making having a fallout with their club, in fact most were released from their club. It is very unlikely that a player released from 3rd tier of Swedish football is going to be the next Ronaldo. Maybe the scout see something than nobody else can in the player, but more likely he is a cheap option to fill a space.

    Clearly the hope is that with proper coaching, those may get fetch money from lower league clubs in a couple of years and contribute to the academy overall revenue stream while allowing Arsenal to fulfill its obligation as academy category A.

  66. AFC Forever

    Emirates

    “Lacazette may not be world class, but he is an intelligent striker and more than capable of scoring 15-20 goals a season. At the moment I don’t think that Nketiah is capable of delivering goals in EPL games at similar level.”

    This.

    Your comment about Pepe is true also. The problem with fans is they think you just shove a player from another country into the team and he should deliver. That may work on the PS5 but reality is different. Flair players offer take time to settle, number of reasons, family life, ace and physicality of the premier League. he will be in the gym bulking up. In flashes he has shown he can be unplayable so more of that please going forward. Like Arsenal, a work in progress.

  67. Steveyg87

    I thought AMN was decent against the Danes the other night @ LWB/LB. If KT doesn’t make it I would have him in before Kola. Not making any predictions for the game this weekend, as Pedro said. We could pull off a 2-0 or get fucked up properly, we just don’t know. If we go in to that game with the same attitude we did against Pool in the league then we are in for a long afternoon

  68. Jim Lahey

    “My point is how these scientists kept on telling us how people here will die in huge numbers and now that it ain’t happening they are making up all kinds of stuff”

    Is 43,000 deaths in the UK not enough for you?

    “,maybe it’s just simple,maybe the Africans are actually following simple rules like wearing masks,washing hands and being socially distant?”

    Maybe, just maybe, going to say something WILD here, maybe many African nations aren’t supplying accurate data in regards to deaths? Nations in Europe having being doing the same. Only listing deaths that take place in hospitals, no data for deaths in nursing homes.

  69. london gunner

    Daniel

    It’s interesting to hear your context. What part of Africa you from and why do you think the rules are better followed?

    Is this due to cultural reasons? Clearer governance and understanding of the rules from the public or more faith/trust in the politicians who set them.

    Be interesting to understand the differences.

    “The weather is still shit unfortunately but the racism has decreased in London at least. The only time I dealt with racism was years ago outside of London in Cornwall and that was when about 20 years.

    “When they were making these predictions didn’t they know that Africa has the youngest median age in the world?”

    That’s a good point they 100% would have factored in, in their predictions.

    Just my two cents I think this whole Covid business has been handled extremely poorly by Boris. Its been haphazard contractionary and unclear what the rules are. I think most people have given up on following any advice and the Northerns have a deep antipathy for the Tory party and distrust (most of it quite fair tbh)

  70. Valentin

    Reading a controversial report on COVID-19 that states that bar the pre existing condition, the biggest factor to determine the impact of the disease on an individual is the presence of a specific Neanderthal gene.

    People with the gene have 60~80% chance of being put on ventilator if they got COVID. According to that study, People without the gene AND without pre existing condition rarely need hospitalisation.

    As Neanderthals did not venture in Africa, with the exception of the white South-Afrikaans and diverse Lebanese, Indian and Chinese diaspora, the gene is absent from the continent.

    The study explain that this is the real reason why COVID-19 has had so low impact in Africa.

  71. Daniel Altos

    “My point is how these scientists kept on telling us how people here will die in huge numbers and now that it ain’t happening they are making up all kinds of stuff”Is 43,000 deaths in the UK not enough for you?

    Jim I am talking about Africa not the Uk.

  72. Daniel Altos

    DanielIt’s interesting to hear your context. What part of Africa you from and why do you think the rules are better followed?Is this due to cultural reasons? Clearer governance and understanding of the rules from the public or more faith/trust in the politicians who set them.Be interesting to understand the differences.“The weather is still shit unfortunately but the racism has decreased in London at least. The only time I dealt with racism was years ago outside of London in Cornwall and that was when about 20 years.“When they were making these predictions didn’t they know that Africa has the youngest median age in the world?”That’s a good point they 100% would have factored in, in their predictions.Just my two cents I think this whole Covid business has been handled extremely poorly by Boris. Its been haphazard contractionary and unclear what the rules are. I think most people have given up on following any advice and the Northerns have a deep antipathy for the Tory party and distrust (most of it quite fair tbh)

    I am from Kenya and I am not saying that we are the most obedient in the world when it comes to following rules plus we absolutely hate our politicians here too,but at least there is a clear structure on the covid guidelines and things like lockdowns and curfews. What I am seeing in countries like England and Spain is what my boss used to call ‘make it up as you move’ I think people all over the world have fatigue in following the rules just that it seems that some people are just being blatantly careless now especially considering the high death tolls in their countries.Sometimes looking at these ‘experts’ and ‘scientists’ they even seem sad that their doomsday predictions of covid ravaging Africa like a plague have not come to pass and they aren’t anytime soon.Glad to know that racism has reduced,I lived in Kent for like 1 year and in London for 2,though some of what I experienced in Kent was way worse compared to London.

  73. Marc

    Valentin

    Interesting but I didn’t think the Neanderthals made it to China either – my personal opinion and it is purely an opinion is the reason for “high death” rates in Europe & the US is down to having a large number of elderly and high obesity rates.

  74. karim

    Approximately 35 000 dead people in France, of which 25 000 could have been avoided had the government done his job earlier.
    They confined the whole population because they waited too long before they ordered or produced the masks and the tests.

    Just saying

  75. Marc

    karim

    That’s whats pissing me off at the moment over here – people are politicising this when lots of country’s are seeing a resurgence = France, Germany, Holland, Spain etc etc

  76. andy1886

    Jim, pro-rata that’s about the same as the UK given that the population of the US is about five times that of the UK. Throw in the lack of decent healthcare provision for the poorest in the US and I’d say it compares favourably with the UK given that context.

  77. Dissenter

    Some tabloids are running stories that Arsenal is bidding to sign yet another central defender in January.
    I really can’t believe we will sign Villarreal’s Pau Torres when we still do have an attacking midfielder.

  78. karim

    Marc

    I’m not anti-government for the sake of it but it does look like they waited for more than a month before following the WHO recommendations, unlike Germany for instance.

  79. Champagne charlie

    “Almost 60% of Africa’s population in 2019 is under the age of 25, making Africa the world’s youngest continent. According to the UN’s demographic projections, the median age in Africa is going to be 19.8 in 2020.“

    Yea, but how old are they really.. you know, factoring in their glow and that?

    19.8 soon becomes 28.4 I think you’ll find.

  80. Marc

    Dissenter

    I can’t believe that, I think the fans will start to get pissed off if we do. It’s like having an alt version of Wenger back – we all know what we need and the manager keeps hoarding other positions.

  81. CaliGooner

    If we play four at the back with Luiz we will be done for. He will be sent off or we will ship at least three goals. He can’t do it anymore. It’s the main reason we started playing 3 at the back in The first place.

    343 and we have a chance. 4 at the back with Luiz and we lose 3-1 at least.

  82. Habesha Gooner

    No chance a CB is coming for another two seasons unless we sell 3 out of Chambers, Holding and Saliba. Luiz, Sokratis and Mustafi will be going for free next summer. Arteta has recently signed two CBs. Ceballos isnt our permanently and Arteta was looking for Aouar too. I expect all our money will still go to midfield and May be full back positions depending on how the season goes.

  83. S Asoa

    Valentin

    “Reading a controversial report on COVID-19 that states that bar the pre existing condition, the biggest factor to determine the impact of the disease on an individual is the presence of a specific Neanderthal gene.People with the gene have 60~80% chance of being put on ventilator if they got COVID. According to that study, People without the gene AND without pre existing condition rarely need hospitalisation.”

    What has happened to the same African origin people who are now living in UK and Europe ?
    Preferably if samples with similar lifestyles as whites are compared your theory could be confirmed.
    An idea for research

  84. Moray

    “Emiliano Martinez has claimed Arsenal offered him a contract to remain at the Emirates but he opted to join Aston Villa instead, speaking to DAZN.“

    Hopefully this polemic is now put to bed?

  85. Moray

    “What has happened to the same African origin people who are now living in UK and Europe “

    If you look at the numbers out of the US, black Americans are around 3x as likely
    As white Americans to contract COViD. So it’s highly unlikely this anomaly in Africa is gene related. More likely, as mentioned, it’s down to the veracity of the data collected, cultural issues such as not flying off to Spain and Greece on holiday in the middle of a pandemic or standing around inside pubs in Liverpool while screaming drunk…

  86. Marc

    Dave

    The Government’s caught between a rock and a hard place and I think they’re trying find a balancing act. If people keep pushing and the Tier system is dumped we end up with a circuit breaker lock down for a couple of weeks – problem is when rates spike again a month or two after we’ll have to keep repeating the circuit breaker lock downs.

    I think a lot of the recent spike is down to students and morons not following the very simple rules that were in place and it’s fucking it up for everyone.

  87. Left testicle

    I think the main driving force behind any lockdown is to keep the illness at a level where the health service can cope. I don’t want any lockdowns but if no action is taken we could end up with queues of ambulances outside our hospitals.

    It’s balancing health & wealth.

  88. Left testicle

    I think a lot of the recent spike is down to students and morons not following the very simple rules that were in place and it’s fucking it up for everyone.
    ………………….
    There are people who still don’t see the connection between themselves being young, fit and healthy and at no particular risk and passing the virus onto a family member or friend who is vulnerable.

  89. karim

    Can anyone tell me why the masks are mandatory only after 10 am in the city I live in ?
    Is the virus a late riser ?

    Same at bars where you can put your mask off as soon as you sit but then you run the risk of paying a € 135 fine as soon as you stand up ?

    The list goes on and on

    How do you want people to follow the rules when the said rules are that dumb ?

  90. Uwot?

    I really do hope they go for The boz at Salzburg.For the midfield role.Reasonably priced & a future worldy Moreso than Aouar who’s been fluttering his eyes at Madrid & Juve.plus wouldn’t have to deal with that mad b’stards Aulas again….I believe they ( Salzburg) are willing sellers.Lets hope they’ve kept the loose change for a Christmas pressie 🤞

  91. Marc

    Left

    I’m waiting for all the snowflake students whinging when they start killing off elderly relatives over Christmas.

    It’s really not that difficult is it?

  92. Left testicle

    We have the Rule of six where you can’t meet in groups of more than six indoors or outside. So you could be in a group of six in the park and then, as an individual, walk over and join a group of five etc.

    We would be a lot better off if we could all use common sense but unfortunately a fair few don’t seem to have it. Like the numpties walking around the supermarket with their hands over their nose and mouth or the ones wearing a face mask but only over their mouth.

  93. Left testicle

    58,000 dead in the UK due to Covid-19. That’s very nearly a full Emirates Stadium.

    Though if the figures were released by Arsenal they would insist it was full to capacity! 🙂

  94. Left testicle

    Marcus Rashford ‘won’t accept any less’ as school meals petition races past 200,000 names.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why doesn’t he stick to playing football.
    …or, if he’s so concerned, pay for the meals himself.

  95. SpanishDave

    If we were doing only 100,000 tests per day we would be doing this stupid lockdown.
    Everyone is brainwashed and fixated on numbers without comparing them with seasonal flu and pneumonia which is higher than this.
    Average age if Covid deaths is 82.5 the average life expectancy is 81!
    It is not killer for 98% of the population .
    Ask yourselves what is going on.
    Won’t be going to footy matches this season at all, Boris will see to it.
    Eventually the money runs out, then what?

  96. Marc

    Dave

    Did you see the official figures they published a few weeks ago showing deaths between Jan and end August comparing COVID, Pneumonia and Flu?

    I found them very difficult to believe.

  97. Moe

    The data on Covid deaths is definitely off in many African countries, similar to many other parts of the world. What can’t be denied though is that the hysterical – and wishful in some quarters – predictions of millions of deaths hasn’t happened. That type of mass death cannot be kept under wraps any longer with today’s technology. And yes Africa indeed has a very young population.

  98. SpanishDave

    Hi Marc
    In 2013 2014 winter 60,000 people died with flu and pneumonia and nothing was said about it.
    There are jabs for flu and pneumonia and most old folks have them.and still the numbers each year are the same. The survival rate is 98% overall what do they not understand?
    Jabs will never stop this virus it is now part of the human chain and won’t go away.
    The government have no long term strategy just knee jerk responses, like Boris just bumbling along .
    Hancock is our MP useless tosser if there was was one..
    Only when the unemployment numbers go sky high will they all wake up.
    Madness

  99. CaliGooner

    Debruyne ruled out because of injury!! Now I’m starting to feel like we can get a result in this game! He always kills us.

  100. Marc

    Dave

    Official number for deaths 1st Jan till 31st August:

    COVID – 48,168

    Pneumonia – 13,169

    Flu – 394

    Now as our average deaths from Flu each year are usually 10,000 – 20,000 it either means that the norm is for almost all of them to happen Oct to December or last winter had an incredibly low rate of Flu.

    It doesn’t seem to add up.

  101. Jim Lahey

    “Either they are all idiots or they’re on to something.”

    All idiots! Its guys on football blogs who have it all sorted!

  102. Moray

    Marc, flu season is winter, so the UK hasn’t felt the full impact of flu and COViD together yet.

    I would expect flu numbers to be lower as social distancing and face masks will reduce the spread which happens in the normal course of things.

    Having said that, if those numbers are correct the flu data would seem to be wrong as it should pick up jan-March or whatever which is a flu hot spot.

  103. Marc

    Moray

    Agree on what you say but that will be for this coming winter these numbers were for between 1st Jan and 31st August 2020 so there A) shouldn’t have been any COVID deaths in the Jan and Feb numbers we didn’t have it in the UK B) the Flu numbers can’t have been reduced by social distancing etc because it wasn’t in place at the start of the year.

    Where were the other normal numbers of flu deaths? We either had a huge number in late 2019 or we’ve had really low flu deaths over winter 19 / 20?

  104. Kenyangunner

    “What has happened to the same African origin people who are now living in UK and Europe “

    BCG Vaccination!

  105. salparadisenyc

    Finally the madness of pulling an international break at this moment is over, Le Grove will be stronger for it place goes to shit when Arsenal are on hiatus.

    Just listened to the Wenger – Ornstein pod, not really shedding any new light.

  106. Left testicle

    Just listened to the Wenger – Ornstein pod, not really shedding any new light.
    ………………….
    Still a tosspot.

  107. Aussie+Gooner

    Top 15 most valuable squads in the world according to Transfer Markt

    1. Liverpool (£991.08m)

    2. Manchester City (£971.64m)

    3. Barcelona (£790.65m)

    4. Bayern Munich £782.06m

    5. Paris Saint-Germain £772.88m

    6. Real Madrid £769.50m

    7. Chelsea £760.41m

    8. Manchester United £719.87m

    9. Atletico Madrid £661.95m

    10. Tottenham £660.20m

    11. Juventus £621.18m

    12. Inter Milan £616.59m

    13. Arsenal £568.76m

    14. Napoli £534.58m

    15. Borussia Dortmund £528.53m