Ok, so I can write the post that I wouldn’t have dared if we’d have lost that 5-0.
That was a game I suspect neither manager really wanted to win. This season is jam-packed with games. Players need fresh legs, the League Cup is not a priority for anyone in the Premier League, particularly with the covid-fixture pile-up.
Arteta put out a starting 11 that was uninspired. Lots of players that are struggling for form, some that will be sold, and some that we haven’t seen this season. With that in mind, we weren’t that bad. We put in another fairly dogged defensive performance, we asked different questions of Liverpool tactically, and we eventually ground out a win via shootout.
The second half was more positive than the first. We found the front three a little more often, but they all seemed 0.5 seconds off the pace. Still, you can’t say we didn’t have a go and you also can’t deny that even the second team fights to the death… not something that was true of Wenger’s latter year League Cup sides. Dissenter in the comments made the point that we had a doubleheader against City a few years ago and we couldn’t muster a response in the second game. We found one today. Also worth contrasting that this same game last year was a 10 goal thriller. 0-0 is a sign of the times, it’s the vision of a backroom team that prioritizes defence over attack. I don’t hate that.
As Roy Keane said the other day, the most important statistic is the score. The hero keeping that respectable? Bernd Leno.
I AM SORRY FOR DOUBTING YOU.
He made a thrilling save in the first half from Jota that spilt into the danger area, the bar rattled hard with the Minamino follow-up. Palming the ball into danger seems like a new thing from him this season. I (you as well) was a bit worried about him going into half time.
WHO WERE WE TO SPEAK ILL OF THE GERMAN KING?
His second-half performance was fucking fabulous. His low save from a swept VVD shot was magic. He tipped over a looping header where he switched hands mid-air. He was first to everything. He was a HERO.
I’ll say this aloud: EMI WHO?
One for the records: I don’t think we’ll see a lot of Runar this season.
We also need to have a conversation about Nicolas Pepe. It’s really not working out, is it? There seems to be two things going on, firstly, he’s not at the level you’d expect for a winger in season two. He slows the play. His first instinct is to cut the ball back (remember Wiltord used to do that?). Forward locomotion feels like a rarity. He’s also very weak, which means any sort of tussle leaves him on the floor. Second, he doesn’t look like he really cares. He has the same body language issues as Mesut Ozil. That game yesterday was a disaster class the likes of which you don’t expect of someone with that level of finance behind him. Very worrying. Really, quite unbelievable we gave someone £72m for him, glad that person is no longer here.
Joe Willock had some bright moments, but overall, I’m not sure he moved the needle. Mo Elneny still looking like a starter above him.
Cedric looks quite efficient going forward, I think he likely has the best delivery on the right and he certainly still has pace.
Eddie was fairly quiet, but the service wasn’t really there. Saka had a good game, slotting in all over the pitch. I love that his instinct is always forward, he’s the opposite of Pepe. He really is going to be some player. Again, it’s the players that didn’t start that matter: No Reiss against a team he scored 2 against last season.
The penalties were really good. Mo Elneny missed his. But Bernd managed two super saves denying Wilson and Origi. AMN finished like an ice-cold killer, as per usual. Laca, Cedric and Pepe all finished well. Then Willock finished the game off with a shot that narrowly squeezed under the glove of Adrian.
So the most important stat of the night? A victory at Anfield. The second most important? A clean sheet because of a worldie performance from a keeper under pressure. Get this, Leno is the first Arsenal keeper since 2012 to keep a clean sheet at Anfield. That keeper? Vito Mannone.
So what have we learned?
Well, Arteta is very much aware that we’re in desperate need of a creative midfielder. First or second team, it doesn’t matter the configuration, we’re not creative unless we’re leaking goals. Folk peddling the idea that the club doesn’t know where the squad is weak are waaaay off base. Arsenal are gunning very hard at the problem, so hopefully, we’ll hear good news. My worry is that even if we do land Aouar, is that enough? 5 years ago we had too many creative technicians, now we don’t have a single suitable player that can do the job. What happens if the one signing tears their ACL? Bland. That’s what happens.
It’s worth remembering that we’re still massively hamstrung by the terrible way Arsenal managed transfers over the past decade, the rebuild given the situation and ongoing moment is probably going to be slower than we hoped. The challenge we’re having is that all the clubs in Europe; who also have financial issues, know we want to clear deadwood. They are lowballing us. All of them looking for cut-price deals. Again, this is a legacy issue, not an Edu problem (mostly). At least a chunk of that problem is out of contract next June.
Though our creativity wasn’t elite, there was a clear shift in tactics to give us more opportunity to get the ball in Liverpool’s half, Klopp acknowledged as much after the game. We explored the right as much as the left, our lack of shots on goal felt the result of a lack of killer instinct just as much as our limited ambition with final third passing. There needs to be serious solve though, otherwise, this season is going to be laborious and very imprecise when we attack.
We also learned that William Saliba is not going to be the starting hero everyone had hoped for. Again, I am glad we signed him, he’ll hopefully be a star, but looking back to last summer, our overspending on a player that won’t be ready until next season seems quite mad considering what our squad still lacks (£100m outlay on two players still not ready is so bad). Arteta says he’ll have a transitional year with us to get fit, mentally right, and to adapt to the power and pace of the beastliest league in the world. Also worth remembering that there are about zero 19-year-olds killing it at centre back at top clubs in Europe.
I found some of the bitching about the lack of sexy football a little hard to digest. We have a clear identity with the players we have at the moment, it’s version 1.0, but it’s necessary and it will evolve (switching formations in-game seemed like a new move last night). We don’t have the squad to play expansive football, so we don’t. Arteta wants to win more than he wants to entertain, so we are a side that has been remade to be able to defend and attack in a very structured way. Someone in the comments was reminiscing about the Wenger days mid-game. Incredible that anyone would want to go back to years of Glorious Failure with big teams lining up to spank us with ease. 8 years of being absolutely pathetic, so bad teams would give us the ball so they could bully us off it and score. This season will be about pragmatic football if we don’t land the players Arteta needs to play expansive football. Arteta wants to win games, he’s not here for the purists, he’s here for the Champions League places and he’s built a system that he thinks can nick wins and keep clean sheets. This is a 1-0 to the Arsenal kind of year I’m afraid.
Yesterday wasn’t winning any awards for aesthetics, but that was Liverpool, they are better than us on every level top to bottom, and we delivered the performance needed to beat them. The third time in four games to be precise, even better when you consider the brutality of the weekend. We did it with a team that was less than ideal in a competition that is the lowest on the Arsenal priority list. Majority of the coaching staff focus will have been on winning this Sunday. The club desperately wants to go into the international break in the top 4. That is the #1 focus of this season. Getting back into the Champions League so we can afford a summer richer than Leeds United next year.
Regardless of the focus, that was a GREAT night for the process.
Winning breeds winning. Beating great teams is good for momentum. Crushing penalty shootouts is excellent for team bonding. Last night was a good night. If you can’t enjoy beating the best in the game, why bother?
P.S. Huge LOLz that we drew City in the next round. We are cursed with cup draws at the moment. City, Chelsea, Leicester, Liverpool, now City again. Still, you have to beat the best if you want to bring home trophies. Might as well start early.
CG
How many English honours have this vastly more experienced manager won?
How many has Arteta won in six months.
Still Brendan might win the Carabao this season ….oh he’s out ! Who beat him?
Fucking spuds fans like CG make this blog comments boring.
China
Arteta has done well to win some big games playing plucky underdog soccer at Wembley.
But Scott Parker did the same thing too.
His Fulham side beating Brentford in an even bigger game than the FA Cup final
Parker will soon loose his job
And I suspect within 12 months , Arteta will be doing likewise.
He aint good enough, bold enough, charismatic enough , elite enough to be manager of Arsenal.
Chapman
Mee
Graham
Wenger is the required calibre .
not Arteta.
ps As for Rogers, I stated what the club would do- not what I would do.
On transfer market, Nelson valued at £12.5mil and Eddie nikita £15mil
It doesn’t matter pissing off the fans as the stadiums empty.
Stan doesn’t care at all, no money in no money out, simple.
Watch us drift down the table to our comfort zone 6th-8th.
We still need to shift two players as the squad is too big if we want to make signings. Torreira looks to be one of them and maybe we may release Sokratis on a free?
If Torreira and Martinez are our significant outs, while bringing back Ceballos, Willian and Gabriel then have we improved? I wouldn’t say nearly enough.
Personally I think that the potential recruitment of Aouar is turning out to be like a poker game. Lyon want clearly to sell the player with a grossly inflated price. Arsenal on the other hand want to buy him on the most favourable terms. The President of Lyon knows very well that Arsenal can afford to make one more major signing in this window. Arteta has more or less acknowledged this. So he is putting us under pressure with his timetable and stories that other major clubs are interested in player. PSG and Juventus are clearly not in the game,… Read more »
“Nelson can’t even make the arsenal bench, how is he valued at £20mill?”
Fair enough. But then going by that logic how is Rhian Brewster moving for the best part of £25m?
ES
If Torreira leaves then we only need one more outgoing to allow us to bring in two players I believe.
For what its worth, i am playing devil’s advocate because I think there will be some incomings. Arsenal seem to think its more exciting to get it done in high time.
“But Scott Parker did the same thing too.
His Fulham side beating Brentford in an even bigger game than the FA Cup final“
CG
Haven’t you spent a lot of your time here trumpeting the FA Cup as one of the greatest competitions in history, yet it is less important now Arteta has won it?
Left side
I think so too, as close as it is to the close of the transfer window, I refuse to believe we aren’t going to bring in at least one midfielder, especially as it seems Torreira is leaving.
Get the popcorn ready for Monday evening.
CP would value Zaha @ £50m+ and Nelson @15m… go figure
CG
You make me laugh when I read that you consider that Bertie Mee was a better manager than Arteta.
His football playing credentials were minimal and he was a physiotherapist and not coach before his appointment as manager. After he left Arsenal he was briefly an assistant to Taylor at Watford.
To shell out £35m to swap Nelson for Zaha. I’d rather get Edouard. Age on his side.
Chris “””Haven’t you spent a lot of your time here trumpeting the FA Cup as one of the greatest competitions in history, yet it is less important now Arteta has won it?””” No. Fabulous achievment from Arteta.. Kudos to him and the players. A huge opportunity to kick on a build a championship team wasted. Instead – he has sold Martinez Re intated Luiz Signed Willian on a 3 yr Re Signed PEA on a 3 yr Damaged Pepe price tag Damaged Saliba price tag Damaged Genduzi price tag and become even more cautious in his tactics. I had high… Read more »
CG
agree you with besides the fa Cup run, football under arteta has been very poor, negative line up, back and sideways specialist.
Leftside
I believe that Arsenal have 18 overseas players over 21 excluding Bellerin who is home grown
if Torreira leaves club. So if Aouar is recruited we need to offload 2 more players.
CG
Arteta has largely arrested the shocking defensive frailties we were frequently seeing and is building from the back first. He is trying to be efficient with what he currently has. With the acquisition of more creative players we will very likely see a more expansive playing style.
As far as this season goes, we are in the quarter finals of a cup and have only lost in the league to one of the best teams this century, so I for one am not reaching for the razor blades just yet.
CG
What is your opinion on our owner, KSE? You have criticized the wrong person. Arteta has been working under a very tight budget and a 8th placed squad. He has been doing everything he could to be competitive. He has a blue print of how his team should play but he doesn’t have the players with the required quality. He is stuck with players he couldn’t sell. To make matter worse, those players have a high salary. You should appreciate how difficult Arteta’s job is.
Nelson
“””CG What is your opinion on our owner, KSE?”””
Totally ruined the club
Torn it to pieces.
Thats why we are in this state.
So now the f*** ng chavs have started to sniff around Partey.All hell will break loose if we end up with Jorginho & they get Partey.This has the sniff of when they nocked Essien from under the ditherers nose.Real Madrid on ohh ahh case.All of this not looking good at all.At all.🧐
Jay
“On transfer market, Nelson valued at £12.5mil and Eddie nikita £15mil”
Brewster 4.86 million on transfermarket…sold for 20+million ..
Tom, his sole purpose is to shit on everything Arsenal. It is really boring, especially after a hard fought win in the cup. I don’t mind a bit of misery, but when your main purpose daily is to fuck people off, it’s time for a sit down in a dark room. You’ve been doing that for what? 10 years now? His shitting on emery was fine when it went along with you agenda, now that he does does the same to arteta he is suddenly a troll? Atleast he is keeping true to his style. Also, azed posted quite a… Read more »
Rumours on Bellerin too.
It’s going to the wire.
However one cuts it we fail to package our assets and sell high.
We routinely pay high fees and wages and get fairly little values. How would we turnaround as a club??
Arteta sorting defense isn’t a solution. Just a small step. With no significant MF reinforcement this step goes nowhere.
On best-selling books about Arsenal, Wenger’s recent chats about himself suggest that we can expect his memoir at any moment.
“My Amazing Life’ might be a good title.
Useroz I think that it is highly unlikely that Bellerin will leave the club in this transfer window. He is our first choice right wing back and is home grown. We need to offload at least three foreign players aged 21+ who are not home grown. Torreira is almost certainly leaving and I would expect another two from Sokratis, Kolasinac and Guendouzi will be offloaded if we are recruiting one more player. That would meet the 17 player foreign over 21 quota. Saliba could also be loaned out abroad if Arteta does not consider him ready for first team and… Read more »
Selling our youngsters will be terrible for the long run. Zaha is a great player but he’s not a priority. Someone recommended soumare highlighting his age and the long term advantages with that signing. Aruar will be another terrible waste of money. 35 games for a great lyon team and he registered 4 assists. Don’t think that’s what we need. Just get santi back on loan. Ffs
Mari and Cedric are stumbling blocks to whatever we are trying to do in the transfer market. Two players that are not homegrown and 20 million that could be added to Partey and Aouar deals. Most sensible fan already know how this season will end, the two midfielders would change everything but at Arsenal we never seems to be fully ready for a PL campaign.
Anyone knows how Saliba is? Who has scouted this player? How can he cost so much? I have never heard of this “ one year transition period “.
“My Amazing Life’ might be a good title.”
More likely “4th Place is Like a Trophy” or “Qualadee is My Name”
Mari and Cedric probably came in to force other players out. As it stands you have 20 players for 17 foreign player slots.
Nelson
New league, New country, New intensity, New team Mates. So yes there will need a transition time, but I don’t see how it would help, if he went back to France. Surely, he can feature for the U23 and the league cup games. And when he is finally ready, move him up to play the PL games. Another loan will just be taking the piss.
Yea that Pablo Mari and Cedric deals makes less and less sense each passing day. Poor judgement from the manager to sanction both deals
There is one problem with Martinez. He can’t keep his mouth shut.
“Going from Arsenal to Aston Villa is a step up” – Martinez
He won’t make many Arsenal fans by saying this.
Ernest ReedOctober 3, 2020 12:18:37
“My Amazing Life’ might be a good title.”More likely “4th Place is Like a Trophy” or “Qualadee is My Name”
“MY LOVE AFFAIR WITH MESUT,THE ARTIST.”
Either we have the most machiavellian transfer strategy, or the dumbest. For sure either we get it all or nothing.
Nelson
Or, based on spending ten years at AFC, he feels things at Aston Villa are run far more professionally.
Based on what we see, this is not beyond the realms of possibility.
What do you think?
Gonsterous
I understand what you are saying. I don’t expect him to play as well as Gabriel. But he has to play in England to adapt to his new career. And Arteta consider Kola as a better CB than him. WTF!
Pete on Twitter: “I suspect there will be a lot of movement this weekend as clubs panic buy and sell. We just have to hope something can be pulled off that looks planned. Even if we don’t manage much, we’ll be competitive. It just might be quite ugly.”
I love how openly Pete admits player poverty / squad poverty these days.
Come on Nelson. “I’m in the best shape of my career and when I didn’t have the security of that game time, I wasn’t sure about staying. I’m fighting to be Argentina’s number one, that’s my dream. Aston Villa is a massive club, I had no doubts over coming here. Everyone thinks it’s a step down going from Arsenal to Villa, but I actually think it’s a step up in my career.” If you read the whole article it’s clear what he means that being number 1 at Villa is a step up compared to being no.2 at Arsenal and… Read more »
Banford
Yea… the “even if we don’t manage much, we’ll be competitive” really screams player poverty. It’s pathetic that you’re still clinging desperately to this dead claim.
Emery was never the problem FC.
Credit to Martinez for highlighting something we all know and have in fact known for many many years.
The club has spent tons of money over the past ten years; it’s just spent it poorly. You can blame Wenger, you can blame Gazidis, you can blame Mislintat, you can blame Sanllehi, you can blame Edu, and you can blame Arteta, but you can’t blame KSE and you can’t blame Emery. The former made the decisions on who to sign and how much to pay them, not the latter.
If we get no one in, we May have to admit it and get someone who can deal with the transfer, cause the lot at the moment are shite. Edu, Vinai and arteta do not have influence or contacts when it comes to transfers. I’m sure they have been talking to the Secretary at Athleti, begging to get an appointment with the head of transfers there.
“Mari and Cedric probably came in to force other players out. As it stands you have 20 players for 17 foreign player slots” It was a terrible decision to sign them. If Stan decided Arsenal needs to sell to buy he’s correct because Arsenal is incompetent when its comes to transfers. 100+ million on Pepe and Saliba and one is on loan for the second season and the other is a 75th min sub. That’s mismanagement of funds for a club who operates a self sustainable model. I honestly think if this season is another disastrous campaign Stan needs to… Read more »
Chelsea is starting the new GK.
🙂 self fulfilling at this point.
Jorginho starts for Chavs, hopefully that’s an indication he is not leaving to join AFC
Pedro here the other day: ““We’ll be pragmatic all season, because we have to be with the players we have. I’ll take it if it unlocks the money we need to find expansive attacking football.” “with the players we have” This is an open admission of player poverty. And yet we were told that any talk of player poverty last season was nonsense. Now Pete openly admits player poverty despite the current squad being *better* than last season’s squad given we’ve added Gabriel, Willian and Saliba. If we’re dealing with player poverty today — and we are — then we… Read more »
It’s developed into a culture of blindness and arrogance.
Yep, welcome to Arsenal Football Club.
What a shambles we are.
Contrast to Arteta, Fat Frank looks very calm on the sideline. By the look of it, everything seems to be under control.
“”””His shitting on emery was fine when it went along with you agenda, now that he does does the same to arteta he is suddenly a troll? Atleast he is keeping true to his style”””””
Thank you Rocky Roe ( and G o H)
I will not take lectures from Arsenal Luvvies , on how ,what and why I say about Arsenal.
If they cant handle that. As I always say.
” Their problem , not mine!””
Graham you are one bitter old codger.
You love taking a daily shit on arsenal as much as Blandford does.
Very tiresome.
Leeds want to sign Saliba on loan, says something.
We seen it with Martinez and obduracy with Guendouzi which freeze out made him virtually unselaeble.
Arteta Achilles heel is his judgement of people and poor man management required in Sports.
We also have duds like Mari and Soares who could not start even at a lower level team. Maybe Arteta started too high. There is a need for Edu to oversee and overrule some things
Bamford10October 3, 2020 12:29:45
Pete on Twitter: “I suspect there will be a lot of movement this weekend as clubs panic buy and sell. We just have to hope something can be pulled off that looks planned. Even if we don’t manage much, we’ll be competitive. It just might be quite ugly.”I love how openly Pete admits player poverty / squad poverty these days.
Careful hanford,not long before you are hit with the good ol’ “You were wrong about emery” line
Nelson
Frank L is anything but calm and for a good reason.
He knows he’s getting fired the only question is when.
Bamford*
Nelson
“Contrast to Arteta, Fat Frank looks very calm on the sideline. By the look of it, everything seems to be under control.”
There’s a piece on Sky Sports about Fat Frank commenting on his touchline bust up with Mourinho. For someone who’s only been a manager for 5 minutes Fatty seems to be having an awful lot of arguments with other managers.
CG how did you break out of that dark room Pedro locked you up in?
You crafty bastard.
‘My Love Affair with Myself’?
Bayern sign a good mid in Marc Roca for a paltry €15M.
Red
So you’re of the opinion that everything has been hunky dory since we moved away from Highbury?
By the way, you don’t have to read my posts.
14 years of cultural arrogance.
TR7
Touted him early in the window, surprised we weren’t interested given his ability and club situation. Modest money too. On paper he’s a much better option than Torreira, Elneny etc. Pals with Ceballos too.
It would be so Arsenal so see both players they have been linked to all summer playing in the PL at other Clubs. If Chelsea get Partey, they are making top 4.
Not a dicky bird on Arsenal from the ITKs.either the club is lying low knowing they’ve f** kd up these transfers or of course there’s something brewing.Hmmmmm
Nelson
“Going from Arsenal to Aston Villa is a step up” – Martinez”
“Arsenal fans should hate him”
He obviously means a step-up for him personally because now he is seen as undisputed No.1 rather than keeping the gloves warm for somebody else to come back in.
It’s a step-up in his personal career.
Why fans still care what Martinez does or says?
Didn’t Lampard have an all out argument with Koop at Anfield not so long ago? Hardly calm and composed!
Marc
I thought that arguing with other managers is part of the learning lessens for a new manager. But I don’t see him shouting continuously to his players with four different languages on the sideline….
TR7
“Bayern sign a good mid in Marc Roca for a paltry €15M.”
You mean €150 million – everyone knows you can’t sign a CM for anything under £50 million I mean that’s why we turned down over £20 million for Xhaka after all.
Chris
He seems to be picking up a bit of a habit of doing it. If he carries on other managers are going to suss that he’s easy to wind up and get at.
GunnerDNA
“Why fans still care what Martinez does or says?”
Seems to be a bit of animosity towards him from some fans for some reason.
Nelson
Arteta is giving instructions to his players, he has to make himself heard, he isn’t yelling at them for no reason. If he can communicate that to them in their native tongue isn’t that more efficient? It really is silly season on here for being overly critical on the manager.
CC
Yes, in hindsight putting all our eggs in Partey basket looks like a bad decision. At best we sign Auoar in the next 2 days but even then we will not have solved our midfield problem. Even in terms of numbers we are worse off with Torr gone and Ozil and Guen frozen out.
“Seems to be a bit of animosity towards him from some fans for some reason.“
Him being Leno, not Martinez.
I wonder how/if Pedro will defend the position of the management of this club if/when the window closes and we still have the vast majority of dross on the wage bill that he was supremely confident we would be getting rid of throughout the window. Never mind the signings that don’t look like they are going to happen. We seem to be worse than ever at stock piling absolute shit players. I was genuinely excited about Arsenal a few months back. For the first time in years it seemed like there was a plan and I was fully accepting that… Read more »
Considering the club always stated they would have to sell before they buy, not understanding why some of you are getting so wound up? Reality is the money is gone, spent on previous signings that have not come to fruition (Pepe Le Puke comes to mind) and at positions not deemed a necessity, now that they have decided to address needs they have peanuts to offer instead of gold – little wonder they are getting nowhere. Is what it is and we’d best get used to it because this is exactly what horrific fiscal mismanagement does and looks like, when… Read more »
By the way, Arsenal is known to have a soft belly. When Guen showed some fight, he was punished. I wouldn’t mind our manager stood tall against other managers.
Two more days for this absolute odious transfer window to close and then I can offer my opinion on the capability(or lack of) of Edu and Arteta
Would be embarassing to unleash my wrath on them prematurely and they end up landing Auoar and Partey.
Ishola70,
“Seems to be a bit of animosity towards him from some fans for some reason.”
He’s no longer contracted to AFC so whatever he does is irrelevant. He earn his move and decided to move on, fans need to do the same thing.
Chris
It was not a criticism. It was an observation.
CC
“Him being Leno, not Martinez.”
No not on this occasion.
Nelson was doing a bit of pot stirring misquoting Martinez.
Matt If you’re wondering where Pete stands on how we’ve gone about our business this summer, you might start with what he said yesterday on Twitter, including these two tweets: “Easy to criticise this summer if it ends this way. However, the problem started last year. We invested £100m in two players that are still not ready for the first team. We borrowed out of CL money we didn’t yet have.” – @legrove “The miscalculation we’ve made this summer is the club thought they’d have cash offers for the deadwood. Think there were high hopes for Lacazette, Torreira and Matteo… Read more »
Leno is God!
Oh wait, that was Lennon is God…
Sorry, three tweets.
TR7
Not really true though is it? Last season we had Xhaka and Ceballos as the only truly viable players after Guendouzi torched the bridge. You can sit and blow smoke up Torreira but he was a body and not an option – Elneny has replaced him in the squad as an actual option.
If we bring in 1 CM instead of Guen then we’re already better equipped versus last season. Willian replaces Ozil as a 10. Add both Aouar and Partey and we’ve upped the quality and quantity.
Ernest
Whilst I agree with you in principle the problem is we have turned down bids for players. The money that was offered for AMN and Xhaka would be enough to get Partey.
We need to sit back and see what happens but I think if we don’t do some business it’ll come back to haunt both Edu and Arteta.
Tom
“””CG how did you break out of that dark room Pedro locked you up in?
You crafty bastard.”””
I find it bizaare, why I would be banned anyway
(I dont insult anyone.)
I just post my honest thoughts.
And I think Arteta, Edu, Vinny are all bloody useless and not up to it.
Big bloody deal!
Chavs vs Palace! Christ what a boring game
Like watching paint dry..
Yet another pitiful performance from Bamford in his never ending quest to discredit Pedro.
You truly are your own worst enemy, Bamford.
Ernest Reed,
“Reality is the money is gone, spent on previous signings that have not come to fruition (Pepe Le Puke comes to mind) and at positions not deemed a necessity, now that they have decided to address needs they have peanuts to offer instead of gold – little wonder they are getting nowhere.”
You have a tendency to get overly aggressive when you don’t like a comment but whatever your saying was making sense until you realized that 20 million more was wasted on Mari and Cedric.
Ishola
The very debate came about because instead of folk being content for us to have the option of two good goalkeepers, many decided to feel aggrieved their particular choice was sold and started a smear of Leno because of it. It’s snowballed from there.
But both are in the managers current plans, Marc. Is the objective to rid themselves of players deemed surplus to requirements? Im not discounting what you are saying because the money is needed, but…
Nelson
Seemed like a critical observation. You implied Arteta hasn’t looked composed on the sidelines where Lampard has, despite the latter being involved in a couple of spats already that are high profile.
In my opinion Arteta has come across as in control of his emotions at all times so far in his Arsenal coaching career
And Graham thinks our Wenger was useless.
(I personally dont.)
Buts thats his opinion.
“whatever your saying was making sense until you realized that 20 million more was wasted on Mari and Cedric.“
You’re as well calling it 35 million if you’re cherry picking stuff from your arse cheeks.
Sam Greenwood, until recently a Gunner, ripping it up for Leeds United. I hope we don’t regret letting him go for £3m.