Liverpool in ‘quite good’ shocker + Edu, time to deliver a midfield

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via @Arsenal Instagram

Well, there we are. Liverpool look quite good and Arsenal have some work to do. Who knew?

We were downed 3-1 away from home to the best team in Europe. It was a less than cohesive performance from Arteta, but certainly more worthy than some of the embarrassing post-game shite-takes going around.

I thought the tactical setup for the game was pretty much spot on. It’s easy to have the exact solution after the game, but I think most of the selections could be justified. Ceballos, fancy haircut and all, couldn’t control the midfield against West Ham. If he was in ‘hold-on-to-the-ball’ mood last night, it might have been worse. Auba through the middle is a tired debate, we’ve seen why he’s on the left and we don’t complain when it works. Saka? Not sure he’s making the world of difference. Gabriel? I think experience wins out and Luiz was pretty decent. Plenty more trips to Anfield for our younger Brazilian.

We went there to win the game with limited possession, good defensive structure, and experience in our front 3 to take advantage of the counter-attack. Call that negative all you like, but please, tell me the starting 11 we have that could have gone to Anfield and bossed a game of expansive football, clue: it doesn’t exist.

Liverpool were utterly sublime at times. Their pressing was debilitating and their movement on and off the ball was masterful. We couldn’t match them, though we tried our best. The fact that we went 1-0 ahead said a lot about our doggedness. Lacazette working wonders to turn in a miscued Robertson clearance after we dropped a familiar ‘play out of the back moment’ again.

We couldn’t hold on, Liverpool retaliated with absolute brutality twice within 9 minutes. First, Mane tapped home a spilt Salah shot. Tierney will be having nightmares about the absolute roasting he took in the build-up. The second, Robertson was found totally open at the back post, and he duly obliged. Willian really has too much experience to be letting great players ghost in without a challenge.

The second half we were all expecting the worst, but Arsenal came out swinging as hard as they could.

The two big turning points were Lacazette misses. The first on 59, he beat the offside trap to latch onto a Willian pass, he opted for an optimistic chip, which was thwarted because the chip didn’t go higher than Alisson’s waste. The second, he was slipped in by Ceballos, he tried to cut some space outside Alisson, which he did, but he snatched at his shot, hitting the keeper. Really poor. You felt for him hiding under his shirt when he was subbed off, but a £180k a week 29 year old international should be doing better than that. Pretty sure Eddie would have converted at least one of those chances.

We didn’t have much else on after that. When you play Liverpool, they don’t gift you much. We didn’t make the most of our important spells in the game, then we were punished late on when a Luiz clearance found the Jota on the edge of the box, the exWolves star buried his shot.

So what did we learn?

Well, beating Liverpool 3 times in a row was always going to be tough.

What is clear from all of our performances so far against them is we need better players if we want to play at their level. We simply didn’t have the talent to beat them in that form without a huge dollop of luck. Over those three games we’ve averaged 20 shots a game against us and we’ve only averaged 6.3 shots per game and somehow managed 4 goals.

The criticism of the tactics still feels rich to me considering we’ve not moved the squad forward. I appreciate there’s an inquisition every time we lose a game, but going to the Champions to play the Arsenal Way™ hasn’t exactly been kind to us over the last 10 years. We set up correctly. We played to our strengths. We were always going to have to defend well and deal with the fact there would be an element of us getting battered. My ask in games like these since Arteta took over is that we’re competitive… and we were. We stayed in the game for a long time but we fluffed our lines this time.

Individual errors cost us and hopefully, that won’t always happen.

Tierney isn’t going to get rolled like an u18 every game this season. I also suspect on another day, Mane is red-carded after a rough challenge on Hector followed by a clear forceful elbow to the face of Tierney minutes later. Those are the margins that change big games. If he’s off, we have an advantage, unfortunately, he stays, and maybe Tierney was rattled in the process causing the lack of focus for his mistake.

Bernd Leno might rekindle that form that had us calling him world-class under Bu-mery. I thought he looked fragile again today. He’s not a catcher, which makes him a weak point in our defence. He looked panicked on the ball, it seemed like Liverpool players were roughing him up from corners. His step back from the cross that led to their 3rd goal wasn’t something that would have happened under Emi Martinez. We have to have a solid keeper if we’re going to play the way we play. Bernd has not looked close to the level of Emi this season.

Liverpool away was always a write-off game. If you genuinely feel aggrieved that we didn’t win, you have expectations that far outweigh reality. They, along with Bayern, are the best team in the world. We’re nowhere near that level. The best we can do is hope to compete and catch teams like that on an off day (which we have shown we are capable of doing).

The good news for our season is there aren’t many teams like that in the league. I’d argue that there’s only one team like that: Liverpool.

What is apparent is that our midfield needs both Partey and Aouar. We lack creative guile and mobility. It’s been clear for a very long time, this isn’t new, but Xhaka and Elneny (4 forward passes all game) against quality sides is only going to take you so far. We need to do better. Our desired targets at least move us into a new realm of possibility. The starting 11 yesterday was basically the same squad Emery crashed to 8th with last year bar Willian.

Regardless of my upset at the result, I was still impressed with the way we came out for the second half. We showed fight and bravery at times. There’s a resilience Arteta has instilled that wasn’t there before. I was also pleased with how energised Klopp was with his team in his post-match interview when he threw serious shade at Roy Keane for calling his side ‘sloppy.’ We asked a lot of questions of Liverpool. He called their performance ‘perfection.’ They were made to think. You haven’t always had to reach perfection beat Arsenal away from home, you’ve mostly just needed to turn up. We might not be at the level of personnel we need to be at, but I think the coaching and attitude is there. Klopp has had 5 years to develop that sort of devastation, Arteta hasn’t clocked a year yet. Trust in the process seems a tired line, but let’s be honest, we have seen more than enough to justify it.

Plenty will disagree with me and I’m here for it… buuuuuut you need to be aware that the new ‘perfection’ merchants are generally the folk that had no standards over the last ten years. I suspect they have a work TikTok dance video they did for a ‘laugh’, think their best life stage was ‘the carefree years at school’, and they’ll have a ‘can’t miss’ opinion on home brewing.

Let’s see what Edu can do to move the midfield forward, then see how we play against the rest of the top 8. Nothing will be harder than that, until we play Liverpool again on Thursday. Then it’s a kind of clear run. Plenty of opportunities to pick up more points, regain confidence, and bed in two world-class midfielders (PLEASE GOD).

Yesterday was a slap back to reality. There’s still plenty of work to do to return Arsenal to the top. Some good recruitment in the next week will give Arteta tools to show he’s the man capable of doing that. We move from there.

Over to you, Edu.

P.S. If you are still enraged, this Phillipe Auclair tweet thread was good.

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Henry+Root

Arteta has to go?

And be replaced by who ?
I’ve neve4 read such garbage in my life a# I’ve read on this blog in the last couple of days. I won’t be regarded as a loss but I will never post on this blog again . The pieces by Pedro are excellent but the comments are a joke, utterly pathetic, moronic and worthless

Guns of Hackney

Axis of misery. Class.

I’d call it, Axis of know the fuck what I’m talking about. Called Emery after 2 games. Hit that out the park.

Called Arsene at least 5 years before anyone else on the planet. Back in 2007.

I’d say, come to GOH for the SP.

Guns of Hackney

Mistakes can be tolerated but abject failure can not.

salparadisenyc

Dream – Jim L Pepe needed to work, for obvious reasons. Hard to fathom Arsenal spent that much on him with what we’ve seen, cost roughly £20m more than PEA. That for what many now consider a very limited player, for me his mentality doesn’t remotely match that kind of spend the ability is very exciting but I don’t think we’ll ever see it blossom at Arsenal. Fact some are talking about playing him thru middles speaks volumes. Arteta assessed and jumped immediately for Willian on the bossman his first summer signing with club. The die seems cast if were… Read more »

curse

every time I see training pics I’m surprised at how big Gwen is. Given how much he likes being muscled off the ball and falling over…

raptora

In the case of Guendouzi, we were possibly looking at a £40m in last Summer window. Possibly more if he was to keep playing. And as things stand, Arteta managed to probably half his price and we’ll probably sell for £20-25m. Ayoze Perez cost Newcastle 30m.

salparadisenyc

Guns

You nutter were you not on here talking Arteta up for the better part of year under the Emery haze?

shaun

He’s on that whiskey again lol……………………..lol

Guns of Hackney

Sal

He’s on a knife edge. Unless there’s something we don’t know about forced team selections, he’s making mistakes that Arsene and Emery would make. Listen, if you green light over a million a week on the bullshit we’ve signed or resigned, something isn’t right. Agree?

Left testicle

We’ll end up with a Chelsea/Man Utd/Man City reject midfielder.

Left testicle

No, ta.

salparadisenyc

Guns

“Knife Edge”

Knee jerk would be an understatement, working with what he has whilst trying to have most effect in the transfer window under less than optimal circumstance economically for everyone.

Pulled 6 of 9 points available thus far, surely adding a couple players with some of Wenger and Emery’s deadwood out the door. Not to mention added a trophy to the case taking down the leagues best.

Lets talk in 6 months.

Left testicle

Don’t worry lads Soares and Papa are available for tomorrow night!

https://arseblog.news/2020/09/cedric-sokratis-available-as-gunners-prep-for-anfield-return/

Guns of Hackney

Sal

He isn’t doing it. We have two CB’s that have to be better than Luiz and Holding. He hasn’t been consistent.

Elneny? WTF is that? Pepe?

I’m really disappointed to be honest. I had massively high hopes for Arteta but his team selections are odd. Unless we don’t know about injuries or illness.

Also, why is it so hard for him to sell and other teams are cashing in or arguably, way worse players than we have?

Marc

Hackney

One of our issues with selling is the wages many of those players are on.

salparadisenyc

“Also, why is it so hard for him to sell and other teams are cashing in or arguably, way worse players than we have?”

Because those players are likely paid half of wage some of these characters are on like Kolasinac, Sokratis etc. Mental.

Guns of Hackney

Marc/Sal

Okay but he is the one who got Willian on a million a month. Resigned Auba on a million a month. Soares. The other fucking dink who I can’t remember. Resigning Luiz?

This is on Arteta.

I’m an equal opportunity critisiser. I don’t favour anyone. I judge based on facts.

CG

G Of H

“””I’m an equal opportunity critisiser. I don’t favour anyone. I judge based on facts.””””

They dont like them. Facts.
Apart from whipping boys Fulham and Norwich City

When did Arsenal actually last play cohesively and well in a league fixture?

And when will we actually play some decent stuff?

This is what happens, when you go down the UNPROVEN route- you just dont know what you are going to get.

same for Chelsea with Fat Frank.

G8

I don’t think we get to the top 4 promise land with the likes of Xhaka, Lacazette and Bellend 1st team starters ,we need to upgrade at least 2 of those positions to stand a chance!
And no Elneny, Soars and Nketiah are not the answer..
Auba on his own can’t do it as we found out last couple of seasons

Tom

G8
Turkey dropping to 116 place on the Democracy Index is hardly flattering to Erdogan’s regime, but you’re right , as an American I should probably withhold from throwing barbs at others when my own government is totally dysfunctional.

salparadisenyc

Guns Auba earned it. I’m very cool w/ Willian, cover for the Pepe situation that Arteta is clearly not down with, a league proven player that quality. Length of contract is for club to work out as many things can happen in that last year. Luiz on for additional year in veteran capacity with two hopeful generational CBs being blooded in makes sense to me. Soares on the other hand makes no sense, i’d say I wished Martinez was convinced to stay as well but the blog may erupt in pandemonium. Regretful decision that one. As for Mari, I can’t… Read more »

Marc

Hackney

Different subject – you asked why we can’t move on some of the dross and I gave you a reason.

I don’t think paying Auba £250k a week is an issue – I think paying Xhaka £100k per week, Mustafi £100k per week, Sok £90k per week and Kolas £100k per week is an issue.

englandsbest

It seems that Arteta wants Aour and Partey but does not have the money to pay the asking price. In which case he is holding his nerve, trying to sell players to raise the cash, hoping the two clubs will drop their asking price.

At the same time it’s reasonable to assume that there are alternative midfielders lined up that Arteta CAN afford . Perhaps a couple of Edu gems.

And of course there are managers who want Arsenal players who are holding their nerve. Which is why Arteta is expecting a very busy week.

Guns of Hackney

OMG.

Auba is 31 coming up 32 on a three year, million a month contract.

Earned it? Sure, against the pap teams he’s a monster. But the quality…the man ain’t hitting shit.

Jim Lahey

@Pedro –

No there isn’t… troll..

Words on a Blog

Where’s the new post???

Guns of SF

No new post?

Words on a Blog

I wonder whether “Pedro” is Dariano impersonating @TheRealPedro?

salparadisenyc

OMG

Actually he did, without him were relegated. Do the math.

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