Well, you’ll take that, right?
Arsenal made 7 changes against a very good Leicester team and came out worthy victors.
It wasn’t the prettiest of games, but it was a dogged hard-fought victory with plenty of positives.
Firstly, we’re back to winn… oh, wait, we beat West Ham. Felt like a loss. We’re back to winning with purpose after a grubby blip at the weekend.
Secondly, the team put their all into a comp most don’t really care about. I know that should be mandatory, but it isn’t always in this game. I like that everyone is fired up and ready to take their chance whenever it is offered up.
I’ll stop doing this numerically now. I was extremely happy to see Eddie back on the scoresheet after scoring the ugliest goal of the season. He’s a confidence player. You know he’ll always work hard and do the dirty work, but things just haven’t happened for him in front of goal. Well, he scored against West Ham for the winner, and he did the same tonight after connecting with Bellerin’s mazy run/pass, fumbling the ball into the net from close range.
Pepe has yet to find what his true purpose is going to be in this Arteta side, but he’s giving it a go. He’s very unconentional with the way he moves the ball, but you can see there’s a player waiting to burst out at some point. He’s fast, he can breeze past people, he just struggles with his end product. Not sure he landed the assist tonight, but his shot/cross that hit the post caused and own goal. I’m sure there’s some fancy stat you can attribute to him.
Bernd Leno showed a little more confidence. He came for a couple of looping crosses that must have been tough in the wind and rain. I’d still like his handling to be a little better. He tipped a shot into danger and he flapped a cross in the second half. It’s early days, he was out injured for a while, so it might take some time to see peak Bernd.
Kola shouldn’t keep getting games. He’s not focused nor is he good enough. He lost a runner with lazy marking and it could of cost us. I did love to David Luiz having a pop at him. In general, it was good to see him back in the side, he was having a heated mentoring session on the way to the tunnel with Saka at half time as well.
Talking of Saka, the kid is absolutely class. He put on a much better show this evening.
Last point. Matteo and Mesut. Left behind. They can’t even make the League Cup. They need to find new clubs. This is ruthless behaviour, but smart. Bring two people that don’t do what you need them to do in for a cup game, and, well, it shows you don’t care about the game. We won. Our 7th domestic cup win in a row. Can’t argue they needed to be included, can you?
Overall, that is a great win. It’s the exact sort of momentum you’ll take going into the game against Liverpool. Most of the players on the pitch put their hats in the ring for selection next Monday. That’s all you can ask.
Short one today, see you in the comments. x
Valentine
When you get a chance if you could put mums contact info up on this space would be great.
Guns of Hackney.
“Your so sweet i could drink you Bathwater.”
VERY FUNNY CHAPS . ):
“Met the girlfriend by chance in the tube 7 years later. She was bitter that I was happily married. The latest news, she had a string of relationship that all fizzled out. The funny thing is her PhD was in psychology, but she was completely unaware that the reason she had relationship issues was her jealousy and violent streak rather than “all men being assholes”.The common friend she pulled a knife on me for is now a barrister. They met when they were both doing lap dancing to finance their study. I used to see her once in a while… Read more »
Phd20, Initially it was interest rate derivative. For a while there was a frenzy about non-financial exotic assets. Such as earthquake, or commodity related. It was fascinating, but also completely removed to what was useful. Who need to have an exotic FX option with sinusoidal time return? Kobe (The earthquake) and VAR put the fear of god’s into most banks. And suddenly they all left that extremely lucrative but extremely risky and complex market. Nobody wants to be the last fool left holding a derivative that nobody knows how to hedge. When credit derivative started to explode, I had enough… Read more »
If I’m reading it correctly we’re trying to work out the same deal with Atletico that they’re trying with us which is a loan with obligation for both Torreira and Partey. Is that right
Val
Are you a quant trader or you just build models for various asset classes ?
Can’t wrap my head round the Jorginho links
Val
You should tell us more of your life stories would lighten the mood sometimes… been a great success on here i see 🙂
Receding
“Can’t wrap my head round the Jorginho links”
Don’t try doing that, the rumor ought to be in the rubbish dump.
ValentinSeptember 24, 2020 17:17:01
Phd20,
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Oh cool..
Interest rate derivatives..
Funny you should mention commodities..As that is my area.More so modelling energy derivatives mind you.But that is another story for another day.
When you talk about VaR-I guess you are talking about Value at Risk -and the Basel Accords II?
So,you are in Credit Risk,how is that market for you compared to the IR derivatives market?
Well someone smashed my car window last night. Idiot left blood stains on my seat and driveway, complete amateur.
Stolen goods total: a container of marijuana with about 3g left, two pipes, less than half a pack of menthol cigarettes that are literally over a year old, and less than a dollar worth of change.
Some of you are giddy about it I bet! Paging Dariano, gonna need an alibi.
Now things moving towards quantitative finance and modelling… Le Grove, who would have thought….
Fuck Jorginho !
Hello PhD
Good to see you again. Finally done with your Phd ?
TR7, My background is in statistics, signal treatment in telecommunications originally. I used to build model for various assets. Traders used to come to us and say, I want an option that return that, whose pay-off is like that under those circumstances. But when I left, that kind of work had dried up. Nobody wants to be left with a risky, complex derivative that most traders don’t know to hedge. Most of the options nowadays are pretty much standardised. Even the exotic options are standardised. The financial regulators, Volkers’s direcrive, Dodd-Frank, some famous collapse Banker Trust, Lehman, AIG means that… Read more »
Val,
Arsenal could do with your quantitative skills in designing complex derivatives and hedging products in the Player Asset Swap Market, not to mention the Player Transfer Market and the Contracts Renewal Market
We seem to be the suckers always ending up with the toxic unmarketable and unsellable products (E.g. Mikki and Mesut) whenever the deals unwind…..
Here’s the Premier League since Arteta took over
1 Liverpool 56
2 Man City 46
3 Man Utd 41
4 Arsenal 39
5 Chelsea 37
6 Spurs 36
7 Everton 36
8 Wolves 35
We’ve also won the FA Cup and Community Shield
….but on the other hand, if your your judgement in assessing player suitability is anything like your (hopefully former) skills in assessing girlfriend material, maybe not!
Luteo GuenreiraSeptember 24, 2020 17:25:08 Well someone smashed my car window last night. Idiot left blood stains on my seat and driveway, complete amateur.Stolen goods total: a container of marijuana with about 3g left, two pipes, less than half a pack of menthol cigarettes that are literally over a year old, and less than a dollar worth of change.Some of you are giddy about it I bet! Paging Dariano, gonna need an alibi. —— LMFAO Got to love this guy.You are one of my favourite posters.. Witty, can tell a good story and most of all, love your analogies. For… Read more »
PhD2020, Yes. That used to be my life, but I moved on since. I missed the indecent of money that I was making, but not the people nor the life style. 12:00 hours per day of hard work in a noisy environment. Having to be on the trading floor at 07:30~08:00AM despite not being a trader. And then having to stay behind when the traders were boozing at the pub. Knowing as well that the people I worked, most could only be categorised as social misfits. In the movies, they look like Brad Pitt and are well adjusted scientists. The… Read more »
Henry, careful you spark up legrove outrage from someone who is adamant we would finish 30th place in a 20 team league.
TR7September 24, 2020 17:27:56
Hello PhD Good to see you again. Finally done with your Phd ?
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Hi TR7,
How are you doing|?
Nope,not done with my PhD yet..
Still going,though this year,had to take some time out during this COVID-19 period.
How about you?
How is life with you in general?
WOAB,
Next year, I will be happily married for 25 years, so I believe that my skills on that part have improved. But you could also say that my standard are low.
What management have taught me is that getting the right kind of people is the most important. You don’t want to manage a team of people at loggerheads all the time. Or lazy, conniving assholes. That grind you down.
‘Most of the options nowadays are pretty much standardised. Even the exotic options are standardised. The financial regulators, Volkers’s direcrive, Dodd-Frank, some famous collapse Banker Trust, Lehman, AIG means that in case of collapse company directors are in the line of fire.’
Misuse of credit default swaps in 2008 ruined it for everyone, didn’t it ?
Nature of jobs in finance have changed a lot now. Most companies now have inbuilt softwares with most financial models already coded in to them. Fintech more in vogue now than the core finance jobs such as equity research, modelling etc.
Val
So the brother was right.. You did shag her senseless. Just a shame you couldn’t help her be like her mother by putting one in her.
Henry, careful you spark up legrove outrage from someone who is adamant we would finish 30th place in a 20 team league.
Leftside
I merely quote the bald statistics . I am incredulous that there are people on here who believe there is any comparison between Emery and Arteta
ValentinSeptember 24, 2020 17:28:40 TR7,My background is in statistics, signal treatment in telecommunications originally. I used to build model for various assets. —- I’m not going to go into the rest of what you said in your post.But you mentioned you used to build models. What models were they? The models I use and used were stochastic jump models. Some were an adaptation of the HJM-Heath Jarrow Model(which I am sure you would know of),with a jump component added in as an example. But,I dealt with several types of probabilistic models for the commodities markets.Albeit dealing with options and futures(within… Read more »
TR7,
I work now for a fintech.
During the last couples of years working for Bank, all my work was regulatory driven. Manageme the implementation of a new system to show compliance to some new directives, a new limit management system, a new risk assessment system, a cloud based anti fraud system AI (i.e. pattern recognition of outlier trades).
The pure quant work does not exist anymore or it is on the margin. Most today quant developer are just developer with some math skills. When before they used to mathematicians with some developper skills.
TR7September 24, 2020 17:40:12 ‘Most of the options nowadays are pretty much standardised. Even the exotic options are standardised. The financial regulators, Volkers’s direcrive, Dodd-Frank, some famous collapse Banker Trust, Lehman, AIG means that in case of collapse company directors are in the line of fire.’ Misuse of credit default swaps in 2008 ruined it for everyone, didn’t it ? — You forgot to mention,the type of probabilistic models they used as well.Which did not really fit the reality on the ground.In the end ,they had to adapt those models to be more realistic. And yes,you are right with the… Read more »
ValentinSeptember 24, 2020 17:49:00
TR7,I work now for a fintech.
The pure quant work does not exist anymore or it is on the margin. Most today quant developer are just developer with some math skills. When before they used to mathematicians with some developper skills.
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Does that not depend on the industry that you are in?
I guess you are looking at it from an investment banking perspective-non?
Maybe from an energy driven sector,it is not so dominated by developers,with regards to quants?
Phd2020, We used a lot of jump diffusion model to represent unconventional classes of assets. One that came to mind is the utility shares. Utility shares have a different behaviour than most share. They used to have a low price volatility, high dividend, but every 5 years there was a big investment requirement to take into account the change in technology. Think 3G, the cost of entering could be high, but the return even higher. So standard model were very bad for those classes of assets. I spent months trying to model the average time between technology jump and formula… Read more »
Man, transfer news is painfully slow…
Php2020,
I never really worked on the energy sector, so I have no reference on the subject.
At the time, the energy department were completely segregated from the rest of the bank.
ValentinSeptember 24, 2020 18:00:08
Phd2020,
We used a lot of jump diffusion model to represent unconventional classes of assets.
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So what type of jump diffusion model did you use?
Pedro,
Transfer news so slow that Le Grove debate is dominated by a discussion of stochastic probability models and complex financial derivatives!
ValentinSeptember 24, 2020 18:00:08
Oil can be very steady and then a major incident mean that the new average price will have shifted overnight.
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To be fair,oil in the past was less volatile compared to power.Granted geopolitical factors,along with other economic considerations could shift oil prices significantly, but compared to power, power was more volatile on a day to day basis.The introduction of renewables over the past years has somehow dampened the volatility of power.
Surely discussing stochastic probability models and complex financial derivatives deserves a ban, no?
Azed, I shudder at the idea that I could have had a kid with her! Having a knife pulled on me is enough. I should have known she was trouble when she threw bricks thrown through my window in Paris. The brick landed at my neighbour anyway because she miscounted the window. The following day I commiserated with him and put a very gallic shrug but without letting him know that my girlfriend was responsible. All of that because one of her friend had seen me in a restaurant with my step sister who happen to be blonde. I had… Read more »
Bring back politics ffs, this financial drivel is boring af.
Just found out Van De Beek is dating Bergkamps daughter, shouldn’t we have done something to use that connection? Well, too late now anyway.
Hope this Jorginho nonsense is just that, can’t have Ishola harping on about registas for another 5 years.
Ideally we’d need 2 CM and a Cam, none of our options are really up to anything except maybe Ceballos and he’s just on loan. Hope we’ll take a punt on Sangare for the bargain price of under 10m that’s been mentioned as well as Partey/another in CM.
Pedro,
To kill time i suggest you write a blog on the use of scholastic modelling and behavioural decision-making in the modernisation of player scouting networks, the stuff Edu’s working on …
Left TesticleSeptember 24, 2020 18:10:39
Surely discussing stochastic probability models and complex financial derivatives deserves a ban, no?
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Surely, this is what makes Le-Grove, a dynamic, entertaining and thought provoking platform.
Hoksilato,
Haha 😂
great suggestion!
I feel a guest blog by PhD 2020 is imminent, as suggested by Hoksilato to Pedro.
PhD
‘How about you?
How is life with you in general?’
I am good. As you know I was mulling over the option of pursuing PhD in finance last time we talked but after much deliberation I have decided against it. Learning classical music for a few years now, more in to music now than in to finance 🙂
TR7
Music soothes the soul, but finance fills the pocket.
No transfers because most clubs are broke.
Now without crowds courtesy of Billy Bunter Boris there will be no revenue until the new year.
Hi TR7,
Which instrument? I used to play oboe.
I love opera and chamber music.
Never got into the mathematical background of classical music, but just love to listen to it.
When younger I used to play Full blast of Berlioz and Bethoven as revenge against my noisy neighbours.
Words, things took a turn, but I’ll take it over politics or incel.
Words
For quite a few years I thought finance was the most interesting thing in the world but now it’s a distant second to music 🙂
Valentin
No instruments, only vocals.
Keep upping the game guys !
TR7
Always been a deep connection between maths and music/composition. You may know of composer Iannis Xenakis who used stochastic mathematics and Fibonacci series into his compositions (Metastasises)…
Val mate.you should write a book.A best seller beckons …….
TR7September 24, 2020 18:20:10 PhD‘How about you? How is life with you in general?’I am good. As you know I was mulling over the option of pursuing PhD in finance last time we talked but after much deliberation I have decided against it. Learning classical music for a few years now, more in to music now than in to finance 🙂 —– Life is ok, could be a lot better, given the current climate.But alas, we have our health which is important and hopefully our family too. Yes,I recall our earlier conversations sometime back, with you mulling over the option… Read more »
Hoksilato
True, music ornamentation is largely about rhythemic patterns composed using permutation and combination of select musical notes.
Theres this instrument i play with my middle finger in allegro,
as the alto turns into soprano my index finger goes in and the pace turns to prestissimo
*Out of us, she is the more cultured and refined partner.I just tag along and try to be less of a caveman.
😉
Wow!
Too much for me.
Words on a BlogSeptember 24, 2020 18:22:02
TR7
Music soothes the soul, but finance fills the pocket.
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Quite apt.Can’t disagree with this.
Think I’ve found the right home for Ozil
https://twitter.com/Emishor/status/1309029802683162624?s=19
What is happening here!
Pedro
‘What is happening here!”
Money talks: Association of financial managers supporting Arsenal
The lack of an argument has sent the servers loopy.
Sid
You’re a weirdo
Transfer window the best time to Le Grove, that is unless it’s a Covid window.
Are we getting fed up with the Aouar/Partey saga and branching out into making this a trading platform?
If Ozil went to Monaco he wouldn’t have to pay tax so in turn £350000/week @ what % tax you pay in Uk = maybe €220000 per week that I’m sure Monaco could pay no bother. If Sliamini was a star for them last season surely Ozil on loan be an option
Spurs don’t deserve a player like Son.
Goretzka the best all round midfielder in Europe.
Are we getting fed up with the Aouar/Partey saga and branching out into making this a trading platform?
Trading might be the fastest way to get the money for Aouar and Partey
Sliamini
No offence but this mix between Flamini and Slimani is hilarious 😂
Raheem
What a man
Talking about Ozil’s new coach
Edu was spotted at Lyon airport drinking a cup of coffee!
Oh wait, it’s just a gooner with an Edu mask on.
Goretzka should of been in the Gooner.
Raheem
What a man
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My exact words when I look in the mirror.
Extraordinary comments section today…knitting group tomorrow ?
Spurs don’t deserve a player like Son.
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Yeah wasting his best years at the spuds. World class player who should be playing for a top club.
Karim
Slim is anything but a mini but he did well in Ligue 1 didn’t he
Rosa
True. Always liked his aggressive style and his headers also obviously
“Atlético Madrid are not going to negotiate with Arsenal for Thomas Partey – they’re still convinced he’s gonna stay this season. Torreira deal has not been 100% agreed yet because #AFC want a permanent deal, Atléti offered loan and need to sell Herrera. ⚪️🔴 #Atleti @MatteMoretto“
See, now I rate Partey… but I’d not be having any of this with Atletico tbh. Won’t negotiate on a player they have but keen for us to bend for one of ours?
You sure lads?
Atlético Madrid are not going to negotiate with Arsenal for Thomas Partey – they’re still convinced he’s gonna stay this season. Torreira deal has not been 100% agreed yet because #AFC want a permanent deal, Atléti offered loan and need to sell Herrera. #Atleti
@MatteMoretto
Let em go fuck themselves honestly
Me and Marko don’t actually live together…. honest…
Le Grove is pleased to announce the joining together of Champagne Charlie and Marko in holy matrimony.
Till death do they part.
Should “of” said till death do they Partey!
Aouar about that?
Happy Aouar !
All these cunt teams esp Italians wanting loans .
Fuck em no try before you buy
You want you pay .
So Athletico wants Torreira, but need to sell Hector Herrera to fund it. I thought that Torreira was Partey understudy that they got on a free last summer. Funny how after one season of paying a high salary, most clubs try to sell players they bought the previous season on a Bosman. I genuinely wonder why is that. Is it the realisation that the player is not worth it, that his salary bring too much issue in the changing room or was it a cynical a ploy to get them in for a year and then quickly resell at a… Read more »
Correction, I meant:
I thought that Herrera was Partey understudy and they just got him on a free last summer. Is he that bad that after one year they are ready to sell or are they that desperate for cash?
We will dodge a bullet missing partley.
Ain’t worth it
As said before by time him up to speed by 30.
Go elsewhere
Me and Marko don’t actually live together…. honest…
You put that rumour to bed earlier.
Great.
Thanks
Sid
Like the line in the brilliant coming to America…
Son lay off the drugs…
Liverpool just destroyed leyton Orient 7-2.
PhD2020September 24, 2020 18:02:43
ValentinSeptember 24, 2020 18:00:08
We used a lot of jump diffusion model to represent unconventional classes of assets.
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So what type of jump diffusion model did you use?
Conversely I’m all for the club denying Torreira to Atletico, selling him to Italy, and for us to activate Partey’s clause the final day of the window.
Big save that from Neuer.
Athletico must be most horrible pricks fc. Suarez and Costa up top is just A level wankers fc
Suarez even declined and age 33 for 5.5 million is insane value.
Just bought a 25 goal CF for literal peanuts.
Lopetegui has Sevilla looking a really good team. Incredibly solid off the ball and capable of controlling games on the ball.
Not a great set of players to work with either. He doesn’t have a proper goalscoring CF and he’s just lost two his his best players in Reguilon and Banega. Has Jesus Navas looking a world beater at RB at age 35 after floundering as a winger at Citeh.
Just as I suspected, CC is holding the mid whilst Marko does all the Box to Box work.
Wenger Eagle
‘Suarez even declined and age 33 for 5.5 million is insane value.Just bought a 25 goal CF for literal peanuts.”
It’s recompense for the way Barca signed Antoine Griezmann from Atletico
What goes around….
I think you’ll find Liverpool beat Lincoln.
Leyton Orient had the game with S***s postponed because most of the team tested positive
Spot on champers.How sweet would that be .Bunch of chancers.