State of the squad

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You know it’s a sad news day when publications start writing stories like, ‘Arsenal fans get excited about something someone said.’ If you’re a journo and that’s all you can muster, have a word with yourself.

So anyway, people in the comments section are talking about oral health today. Funny they should be chatting about that topic because I was introduced to a WATER PIK just last week. It is jet-powered flossing. I put it in my mouth and it was like letting off a sub-machine gun. Unreal how much pik-ing it did. I’d highly recommend it.

Damn, that only took us to 100 words?

Ok, Thomas Partey’s sisters best friend who owns one of those really cute cats with the bushy faces posted a relatable meme with a hidden message.

‘Live. Laugh. SIGN FOR ARSENAL U FUCKIN IDIOT’

You know you’re struggling to maintain a rumour when your circumstantial evidence is an inspirational quote.

Arsenal are really looking a little short in midfield heading into the new season. Our ‘like a new signings’ look like, well, our new signings. The opening day of the season might see Elneny, Ozil, and Guendouzi brought into the fold. Not exactly a thrilling prospect.

Stories out of France have the price of Aouar at £70m… and with Kai Havertz fetching £100m (nuts), why not?

The Thomas Partey story has been sputtering along all summer. They want the cash we don’t have, so there’s very little momentum that we know about there.

Then the link train seems to have shuddered to a halt.

I’m sure we’ll make some headway on deals, but I do wonder if some clubs are just thinking that waiting things out for a year might make more sense from a financial perspective? Aouar has 3 years left on his deal, he’ll be worth more next summer. Partey is at his peak, he might just sign a new deal if no one comes up with the £43m buyout.

We’ll see… but as it stands, the starting 11 we send out against Fulham will likely look very much like the starting 11 we put out last season.

Still, there could be some interesting movement there.

If we’re going to look to play a more progressive style of football, what does that look like? Deep blocks is where the issue is going to be this season. Does Arteta play Willian in a #10 role? Or does he keep him out wide where he did so much damage for Chelsea this season?

Does he bring Mesut Ozil back into the fold? The German ain’t what he used to be by some stretch, but if he’s playing by the rules, maybe there’s a role for him against teams that need to be unpicked? People don’t want to accept that there is still a player there. If Arteta can stop Xhaka from playing like the intention was mistakes, I’m pretty sure he can suss a way of making Ozil work in some games. As it stands, our creativity options are very lacking. We’ll have to try something, otherwise, we’ll struggle.

The other big questions I have is the defence. Defenders coming over from France tend to take a while to adjust to the power and pace of the league. How long is Arteta going to wait until he starts to bring Saliba and Gabriel into the fold? Saliba binned off a cup final to get prepped in London. He’s focused on the first team. I love that. He’s also a proper ball-playing defender. He’ll make us strong from setpieces as well. Is he starting next season? Or is it gradual?

This season is all geared to being competitive for the season after. We have a lot of the groundwork pieces in place. We’ve reshaped the keepers who will be top of their game this season. We have a defence built for the next 5 years. All they need is experience, familiarity with the system, and some elite moments together. The baton will be passed this year to Gabriel, Tierney,  Saliba, Mari, Tierney, AMN, and Hector.

It feels pretty sexy to say that we’re happy with our defenders, right?

Midfield is anyone’s guess. It still need a dynamic 8 and a 6 with power and pace. There are some unknowns. ESR looks a very good prospect, can we make him ready to challenge for the first team by next year? Joe Willock sparks something in all the coaches he meets. He needs to progress his game this season and be more than a super-sub. Saka has been mooted as a #10, will he be a chameleonic player this year, or will we settle on a role for him? We really need the club to come to the party with some midfield names if we’re going to be ready for next season.

Our striking options are also up in the air. Is Eddie ready to fight for his place this season? He scored a hattrick for the U21s. We need him to match his work rate with goals this season. He needs to challenge. Then we have Gabriel coming back into contention in October. Could he play like a 9? Or will he stay out wide. He’s great with his head, he’s fierce in the press, and he has electric pace. Or, will Arsenal move on Lacazette and bring in Odsonne Edouard in? Still some work to be done to stop us being so dependent on Auba.

Lots of work to be done, but still plenty to look forward to this season!

Wow, I made it to 900 words.

Tell me YOUR thoughts in the comments section. Podcast out a little later. x

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Upstate Gooner

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Clean sweep

Captain Tierney

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Leftfootcurler

As it stands, 7th best squad in the league.

CaliGooner

Top 10?

Captain Tierney

Damn, intention was to come 4th !!! Anyways. With Mustafi and Mari out, Holding going to Newcastle, I believe one of Saliba or Gabriel will start against Fulham. Most probably Saliba, as he gave up a final with St Etienne, Didn’t leave London for holidays and skipped the France U20 call ups this break to bed in with the first team. We have a real GEM here. Ozil will also feature against Fulham given how our creative options are looking right now. Saka’s best position is LW and LWB, he might grow into the Inverted winger role but right now… Read more »

Upstate Gooner

“The baton will be passed this year to Gabriel, Tierney, Saliba, Mari, Tierney, AMN, and Hector.”

Tierney is so good he gets the baton twice

Marko

People don’t want to accept that there is still a player there.

Where is this coming from all of a sudden? We literally shit talked him at every opportunity since the lockdown when Mikel wasn’t interested in him and now because Mikel is doing god knows what by possibly bringing him back in we’re back onto the whole there’s a player in there maybe things will be different this time nonsense. I swear this fanbase sometimes

Oh and Havertz didn’t go for 100 million.

Upstate Gooner

Bring back Ramsey. One of the problems in midfield solved.

Marc

Marko

Pedro has a crazy blind spot with Arteta where anything he does can’t be wrong.

Can you imagine the howls of anguish Pedro would be pumping out on here if Sanllehi and Emery were overseeing this summer?

Marc

Upstate

Not sure we see the medical team not being as busy as a midfield problem that needs solving.

Marc

If we do not bring in another CM this season is a write off before it evens begins. 6th to 8th will be all we achieve.

I’m also worried why we’re not hearing about Auba signing on.

karim

Looks like we’re playing Leicester away in the Carabao cup 3rd round.

Nein, gooners, nein

Marc

You think we’ll score 9 or concede 9?

TheLegendaryDB10

It’s hilarious to read yet another “hope Ozil get’s back in the fold” bs. He is so far from professional football that pinning hopes that he will do something more than just being functional is just another April’s fool joke. Only one person here will hope that this becomes reality: the one and only Pierre. If Ozil was that interested in football, he would have reinvented himself at the same time as Mikel’s hard work at reinventing The Arsenal. He would have trained hard and shown that he is capable, just like Dani did. Dani thought what a crap team… Read more »

Upstate Gooner

Rodgers is a fraud. Leicester won’t be in top 6 this season. I think Wolves are gonna make the push. Maybe Everton.

Marc

Upstate

But no Arsenal?

karim

Marc

It’s kick-off time.

Henry+Root

Expect Saliba and Gabriel to pair up sooner rather than later . A club with no money haven’t prioritised a CB signing not to play him. Question is whether it will be in a three or four at the back and that may depend on midfield signings .
I expect us to sign Partey and retain Elneny

Marc

Henry

If we don’t get a CM because lack of funds I can see some questions being asked why did we prioritise another CB when we have so many on the books?

Upstate Gooner

Marc
Yeah, we’ll be there. Probably not top 4 just yet but pretty sure top 6 is within our grasp. Add a quality midfielder or two, and we might even get CL back sooner rather than later.

Marc

Upstate

A couple of good signings in CM and I think we’ll make top 4 – no signings and I think we’ll be 6th to 8th.

Champagne Charlie

Been amusing reading the utterly disconnected thoughts (loose term) of some on here about leadership.

I’ve managed to gather that excellent leadership is apparently abandoning any and all relationship with a player vs having a policy that states adhering to X results in Y.

Really highlights who’s never been in a prominent managerial role, or who hasn’t the mental capacity to extend themselves beyond petty dislikes of a millionaire footballer. The fact some wish for Arteta to uphold their bias is quite something.

Captain Tierney

Arteta bringing back Ozil( if he is bringing him back) is vastly different with how Emery brought back Ozil. Emery was losing games, we were creating about 0 chances per game, players were losing faith, there was a lot of fan pressure to play Ozil. Lo and behold the German was bought back into the side. This make up was on Ozil’s terms and not Emery. The manager succumbed to the player’s, results and fans pressure. Arteta when he left Ozil out, simply refused to play him no matter the results we were getting and the chances we were creating.… Read more »

Upstate Gooner

Marc
We won’t get top 4 with Xhaka/Elneny for sure.

Marc

Before too many either rejoice or decry Ozil coming back – it was a behind doors closed pre season friendly.

Let’s see where he is next Saturday lunch time.

Captain Tierney

CC

The excellent leadership approach you mention is what Mourinho typically preaches. That model really doesn’t work well with modern football and its players unfortunately.

Like Arteta says, you need to convince players of a certain goal/target/philosophy instead of ordering them because a player in today’s world has 10x more power if you compare it to 10-15 yrs earlier ( when Mourinho was at his peak).

One of the best young managers in the world, Nagelsmann also talks about how elite football coaching is about 70 (or 80? cant remember) psychology.

Ubameyang

Our current squad has great potential for improvement but I’d want us to sign Partey or Aouar (I doubt we get the two this summer)

Jamie

Red Army

“I take it the concept of a player vastly improving after a successful loan spell is lost on you.|

Show me the metrics by which Elneny has vastly improved.

Captain Tierney

Upstate

You do realise we’ve got Ceballos back and its highly likely we’ll sign another midfielder (Partey/Aoauy ) after offloading Sok, Torreira, other dross.

Marc

Players improving after loan spells usually applies to young players who have gone out to gain experience not 28 year olds.

Red Army

Jamie. Have you ever watched football before? Use your eyes.

Marc

Wasi

That’s the conversation I’ve been having with Upstate – if we don’t bring in at least one quality CM we’ll struggle.

OCGooner

Upstate,
Agree, 5-7 will be between Arsenal/Spurs/Wolves. I do think we could be as high as 5th depending on what happens rest of the window. Top 4 will not be this year unless a Bruno type talisman is signed for CAM (or Willian becomes that in short-term). Title will be between Pool/Chelsea, City is slipping – not good enough on defense – United may overtake them for 3rd if they shore up theirs. And agree, Leicester will fall hard, 8th or lower. They were a dumpster fire after the restart.

Red Army

Usually but it’s not set stone and there are always exceptions Marc.

Successful loans are player dependent not age dependent.

Freddie Ljungberg

Pedro

“why wouldn’t you welcome him back?

Because he’s shit, this isn’t 2017 anymore, present day Ozil has less impact than most of our youth players just dipping their toes into senior football.

Marc

Red Army

Chances are we will need some squad players at points during the season. Grimandi used to get a fair few minutes in successful teams but my view is we have Chambers who can do that job (CB, RB, DM), AMN seems to have been anointed a top player when so far he’s never been anymore than back up do we need another one in Elneny?

Sid

Supreme leader trying to convince us that bugger king is the new Wagyu Kobe Beef
lolol

Champagne Charlie

Captain

That’s my point, you have fans actively hoping for us to wage a war with Ozil this season. Can not believe the naïveté of that sort of thinking, negatively impacts us across numerous fronts to even go there.

Marc

Pedro

There would have to be questions on Ozil’s fitness and stamina levels – he’s never been what you’d describe as resilien,t not having any competitive time in how long isn’t great for a 31 year old.

James wood.

Yes Ozil would be in Heart attack territory after
about an Hour at best.

Marc

James

Would the insurance we take out on players cover that?

Upstate Gooner

CT
“You do realise we’ve got Ceballos back and its highly likely we’ll sign another midfielder”

Well, it’s a good thing I’m wearing diapers because I just wet myself out of excitement that Dani Boy is coming “home”. He ain’t no Santi Cazorla. And him and Xhaka are not exactly the type of midfield pairing that’s gonna take us to CL football. As for new signings, I’ll believe it when I see it on Arsenal.com website.

Marko

amusing that people who could see no wrong in Emery’s leadership are actively promoting the idea that Arteta should be inconsistent in how he treats players. I mean the first part is a total irrelevance again it’s this pattern of bringing up Emery every time Mikel is being discussed negatively. The second part no Arteta should be consistent in how he treats players for example he says hard work and commitment is the cornerstone of his philosophy and here he is potentially bringing in someone who’s the complete opposite of those things. When Emery done it he was rightly criticized… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

Pedro

Not sure “Arteta has sauce and can do no wrong” cuts it either in this case I’m afraid.

How many chances does a terrible player with a shit attitude need? What is this kindergarten?

look at his stats for the last 2 years, absolutely appalling for a creative player. Please don’t bring up the chances created stats ffs, it’s meaningless without context and it’s almost exclusively low quality chances he’s “created”.

Shit

Pierre

Red Army
“Jamie. Have you ever watched football before? Use your eyes.”

Jamie and Fred are cut from the same cloth……thick.

Marko

Just to remind people it was just mid August when he came out publicly and criticized the club and mid July when he publicly refuted Arteta’s claim that he had a sore back keeping him out of the team by claiming he was fit and ready on twitter.

Fucking right he’s learned his lesson

Freddie Ljungberg

Pierre

Stuff it sock boy.

Dry your tears, if Ozil gets minutes this season and refuses to leave he’s going to get a lot more criticism so you better get used to it.

Champagne charlie

Pedro I’m willing to bet heavily that Arteta doesnt want Ozil as part of his Arsenal squad, but circumstances dictate that Ozil is pretty cushy and if he decides he’s here for the season then Arteta has two choices: 1) Shun him, which shows everyone at the club that redemption isn’t viable, that management is petty because they couldn’t negotiate an ‘out’ that will be widely known to everyone internally and dont like that the player is staying. 2) Rise above Mesut’s fuck you and offer the same standards available to all, which shows redemption is a thing, there’s no… Read more »

Marko

because you have a pattern of being blinded to context and good leadership. Explain? Sounds like shite talk and an inability to discuss what’s actually being said. Let me simplify it for you Pedro how can Arteta preach hard work and commitment and bring Ozil back in from the cold when he was openly criticizing the club mere weeks ago? Didn’t take a pay cut mugs off the manager and the club publicly calls in sick when he wants to and went to turkey while we were winning an fa cup. Am I missing anymore context? Or cause I’m a… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

Pedro

Really? Would like to see that evidence.

Or is this more of the bullshit of him having turned Xhaka and Mustafi around and improved them 5%? They’re still only useful in a low block and not nearly good enough if we want to get back to the top.

Not a slight on Arteta so no need to get into defensive mode. Klopp or Pep can’t turn shit into gold either. They’re not alchemists.

Leedsgunner

Why do we have our own fans hate Özil so much?

Surely we want the best for the club?

I get it, Özil hasn’t done very much for the club but if Arteta wants to see what he can do with him I say let him get on with it…

I want the best for the club… no more no less.

Jamie

Red Army

“Jamie. Have you ever watched football before? Use your eyes.”

So not a single metric. Nice analysis. Keep going. No wonder Pierre likes you already.

Marc

How can anyone draw any conclusions from a player getting an unknown number of minutes in a preseason behind closed doors friendly?

It really is arguing for the sake of it.

Champagne charlie

“When Emery done it he was rightly criticized it made him look weak as shit. Mikel’s about to do the same thing and it’s what exactly excuses and an example of great leadership? Pull the other one” Classic false equivalency. What Emery did was ostracise Ramsey and Ozil, then bring them back into the fold out of desperation when he was floundering with performances/results. Arteta laid a base level to be considered for selection and kept at that through until season end irrespective of results/performances – in fact knowingly whilst struggling with creativity. Giving everyone a clean slate in the… Read more »

Trap

Lyon rejects €35m + guendouzi bid for Aouar

Marko

That’s my point, you have fans actively hoping for us to wage a war with Ozil this season. Can not believe the naïveté of that sort of thinking, negatively impacts us across numerous fronts to even go there. So this whole comment is the most pathetic thing I think I’ve ever read on this forum considering that the “war” was started by Ozil. Like I cannot believe some people they want to be so right about Mikel that they’re arguing for something that months back they criticized Emery for. It’s incredible. Ozil publicly criticizing the club conning a living and… Read more »

G

” Can you imagine the howls of anguish Pedro would be pumping out on here if Sanllehi and Emery were overseeing this summer?”
What’s been wrong this summer.. Think things are looking pretty good

Marko

Ozil either delivers on what’s expected of him, or he destroys any remnants of his image at Arsenal

I’m hearing one last chance is all it takes

Champagne charlie

Marko

You’re vouching for management to counter Ozil’s pettiness with more pettiness, it’s speaks volumes frankly. Oh, and save the “most pathetic” awards for yourself, you’re the overwhelming favourite for all concerned.

Marc

G

Er season starts in a few days, no CM signings and Auba hasn’t signed. We’re lucky Ceballos doesn’t have to quarantine.

Tom

The idea that Arteta should/will do anything other than what’s good for Arteta and the results with the players he has at his disposal ,versus pursuing some personal vendettas against any player who might’ve slighted him by word or action is laughable. Once the squad is set after the window shuts, all players will see some action. Ozil’s no different. It’s got nothing to do with caving in, or admitting mistakes but everything to do with using all tools and recourses to achieve the maximum results. Ultimately Arteta won’t be judged on how he handled Ozil or Guen , but… Read more »

Marc

“Xhaka (told the fans to fuck off)”

I know this get’s brought up on occasions but did it come across on TV what started the whole episode?

Globalgunner

The reason we played Ozil yesterday is that the Turkish and Saudi clubs interested in him required proof of life. There were rumours we had had him snuffed to save 350k pw

Marko

Classic false equivalency. How’s it a false equivalency? Emery not keen on the player (declining, pulling sickies, general poor professionalism) tries to force the issue by not playing him relents looks like a pussy and gets rightly criticized for it. Meanwhile Mikel not keen on the player (still declining, still pulling sickies and to put it lightly still shows poor professionalism) tries to force the issue by not playing him. Possibly relents after a number of weeks where he didn’t attend the fa cup final, openly refuted Arteta’s claim that he was injured and openly criticized the club and he’s… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

“Quite a lot of evidence to suggest Arteta is good at bringing players in from the cold.If Ozil is back, it’ll be because things are better.” That’s great and all Pedro but are we just ignoring all the stats the last 2 years then that shows Ozil is utterly ineffective as a Cam just because Arteta think he can be a good boy with his eleventieth chance? Xhaka and Mustafi isn’t good enough either if we aspire to be a top team. AMN could maybe be but is just a utility player at this point. Pepe was adapting to the… Read more »

Tom

The reason we played Ozil yesterday is that the Turkish and Saudi clubs interested in him required proof of life. There were rumours we had had him snuffed to save 350k pw

Lol

Marko

If Arteta brings Ozil in from the cold, it will be because he’s playing by the rules.

He literally LITERALLY shit talked the club and the manager publicly mere weeks ago and now we’re to believe that he’s playing by the rules? His commitment levels in training must be through the roof right about now. All is forgiven

Champagne charlie

Marko Just spelled it out for you and still you’re struggling. – Emery: pulled Ozil and Ramsey back in from the cold because the team was flailing mid-season = vagina. – Arteta: said do X or dont play, stuck to it all season no matter what. Criticisms and all about creativity etc. New season, new slate, same minimum requirements. What would you like exactly? Because the club want rid of Ozil, that’s clear. If he stays, which is his prerogative that cannot be forced, and is doing everything the other lads in trading are doing you think overlooking him is… Read more »

Marc

Pedro

No that wasn’t it.

The ref signaled for the sub to be made and when Xhaka number went up the Emirates crowd cheered – really loudly.

He then started to saunter off that’s when the crowd got on his back. Certainly no one sat near me (upper tier north bank) knew he’d sworn at the fans until after the match and they saw the news etc.

CG

“”””Ultimately Arteta won’t be judged on how he handled Ozil or Guen , but where Arsenal finish in May.”””””

Finally some common sense from Tom.

Top 4 is the name of the game, these days

Thats all Arteta has to do.

Finish 4th out of 20 teams.And if Ozil helps him do it- its great managment. If not, he will go the same way like every other manager- heading to the dole office with his tail between his legs

The rest is all fluff. Always has been.
Top 4 is Artetas job.

Freddie Ljungberg

Pedro

Going on record? His stats the last 2 years is the record. It’s fact that he’s not a good player to have in any situation whatsoever.

1 goal, 2 assists, 1 big chance created. Thems the facts.

Think this is pointless anyway. he’ll not get much if any playing time even if he stays. Even if he’s managed to con Arteta into a new chance he’ll get found out quick enough, he always does.

Marc

Global

“The reason we played Ozil yesterday is that the Turkish and Saudi clubs interested in him required proof of life. There were rumours we had had him snuffed to save 350k pw”

Couldn’t we have sent them body parts instead?

Tom

Marko,
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say Ozil was told to stay away for the FA cup final not to create any distractions , since he wasn’t gonna play and media love a good controversy.
No player would go to another country during a final without club’s permission.

TheLegendaryDB10

Captain Tierney (i can only agree with your username, that player oozes so much quality) “Now if Arteta is looking to bring him back it will definitely be on the manager’s terms.” But what would be these terms???? Arteta already tried. And he gave up because effort was involved. I’ll tell you straight up, if he was football hungry, he would have returned to the fold. He didn’t, even though Mikel extended an olive branch towards him last season. He is finished, he knows it. He is just creaming the £££ like any other greedy cunt would do out there.… Read more »

Jamie

Red Army –

“Anyone with eyes can see his last game, after his loan, he was superb and the games he played prior to his loan, he was woeful.”

You’re struggling to come up with a single improvement post-loan. Have a lie down.

Marko

You’re vouching for management to counter Ozil’s pettiness with more pettiness How is what Mikel and the club were doing petty? Explain that one to me because it seemed like a very appropriate response to someone who openly criticized the manager and club, pulls sickies and who doesn’t remotely care about the club. I don’t see it as petty it’s really simple if you don’t work hard and don’t adhere to what the club is trying to do going forward you don’t play if you come out and play things out in media you don’t play. Now very recently something… Read more »

Sid

Ozil 1 vs Artita(o.g)

Lolol

Trap

Torino in with €24m for Torriera

Marko

– Emery: pulled Ozil and Ramsey back in from the cold because the team was flailing mid-season = vagina.

Actually shouldn’t he be given some benefit of the doubt considering midseason you can’t make many changes meanwhile Arteta is showing his ass to Mesut despite us still being able to get in players I mean our options are better with Willian and ESR coming in whereas Emery was kinda forced to in his situation with the backlash from fans and results. Mikel’s potential decision makes little to no sense

Tom

Emery’s treatment of Ramsey and Ozil was probably approved (at the very least) or possibly even dictated by Raul as a wage cost cutting measure.
Emery was weak but probably assured by Raul of an extension regardless the results, considering Raul was still proposing one for him even as Arsenal kept sliding down the table.

Champagne charlie

Marko

You seem more clued in than anyone on the matter (as usual), so Arteta is showing his ass to Ozil by including him in a preseason friendly? Told you not to hand out the “most pathetic” award so swiftly.

Just curious… but how would you be handling this situation with Ozil?

SpanishDave

We should be concerned about Auba not signing yet.
He’s waiting to see who Arteta brings in this window so he can see if we have a chance of wining things.
If we do not improve the squad and he goes that would certainly drag us down to 8th again.
Ozil is just a side show.

Pierre

Seems like everyone has forgotten that Ozil was dropped from side during lockdown , which coincided with him questioning the pay cut. Up until lockdown he started every league game and unless I’m mistaken, we were the only unbeaten side in europe domestically this year , with Ozil on the side. Sadly we lost 4 out of 10 league games post lockdown without Ozil on the side. so obviously he must have been doing something right to get selected for every game. I can guarantee you that if covid hadn’t arrived on the scene, 1) there would have been no… Read more »

prvhc

‘People don’t want to accept that there is still a player there.‘

Nope. That was NOT the point

Pedro, you’ve got to be more subtle with the straw manning.

Pierre

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Marko

and is doing everything the other lads in trading are doing you think overlooking him is plum management? First off not one of you Arteta fanboys who are trying desperately to make it look smart know what he’s like in training so cut the great training bollox because irrespective of that “good at training” doesn’t justify or forgive all the other things that he has done quite recently and it doesn’t justify the output he’s done for the last few years. I don’t give a good toss if he runs a little harder in training for a week or so… Read more »

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