£100m summer?

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Listen, I’ve had my say on Arsenal this week. The bad news must surely all be out, so I’ll move on and land more positive vibes.

We’ve ditched our scouting department. From what I understand from multiple places, this is a really smart move and we shouldn’t fear it. Our hit rate has been miserable for years and we’ve wasted a lot of money.

If Edu says he wants to move to a Michael-Edwards-Liverpool-style of data intelligence, then let’s see if he does it. Nothing he’s done at Arsenal so far suggests that’s what he’s about, so the onus is on him to make the right promotions, bring in the best talent, and move beyond CHECK DIS GUY e-mails from Kia for his transfer inspiration.

With regards to the layoffs, it sounds like they went right at the areas of business that are, well, pretty redundant for the foreseeable. Sales, admin, and premium partnerships. I’d have had them on commission for selling our best players for ‘very good price’ to the highest bidder this summer, but it is what it is, Arsenal wants to be a cost-conscious business in a pandemic, so there we are.

What all the bad news won’t change is that the manager we have at the club is the real deal. The players finally have someone in charge that commands respect, the training ground is buzzing again, and there is a very clear and ambitious vision Arteta is trying to unlock.

So what next?

Well, summer is about to start. Let’s walk through the smoke and see if we can identify where the fires🔥 are at.

Auuuuuuba

Our BEST player is apparently nearing a 3 year £250k a week deal to stay at Arsenal. He’s happy, the elders are happy, the deal is close. This would be huge news and a testament to the coach that he’s managed to convince a man in his absolute prime that 8th place Arsenal is the destination for him. Auba has been committed, he’s developed his game, and his leadership has been all about setting an example for others. What a deal that’d be.

One of his stipulations is that he wants to see that Pam in accounts safe in her job… along with some big money spent on this squad. Some papers are saying the club is looking to drop £100m… if we can shift on talent.

QUESTION: How long does the club wait on the deal? What happens if he says no?

Ainsley

One of the players who has been put up for sale is Ainsley. The versatile midfielder turned right-back has been told if the big money comes in for him this summer, he’ll be moved on. The caveat is that Mikel doesn’t want to see him go. Bit of a weird caveat. One thing is for sure, we’re stocked down the right and no one is buying Soares out of his freshly minted 4-year deal. A £30m fee is being mooted, which seems quite high given the moment. I don’t fully understand the thinking here, I think the player has been excellent when called upon, he seems to pick up Arteta’s instructions quicker than most, and he’s executed plans to the T at the highest level. Maybe we’ve pumped his value? Maybe the player wants to be the name ALWAYS on the teamsheet? Seems an odd one, but if that’s what the management brain trust wants, then there we are.

Torreira

I read a tweet where someone said ‘I feel like Torreira has been talking about leaving since joining’, and I agree.

“Today I need to think about my future very well. I have a contract with the club and I have to respect it, obviously if I have to leave it will be for the best. We have to be calm and wait”

Look, this is what happens when you bring in the right profile of player and pay them market rate. LT had some promise… it didn’t work out, so we’ll sell him back to the country he came from at a similar price point. Torreira looked like he made sense, aggressive, good on the ball, with sharp technical skills. The problem has been that he just isn’t at the right level physically for the Premier League. If we can get a deal from Milan (YO IVAN) or Torino (his old coach now there), then everyone would be happy.

Hector

There are also a lot of rumours doing the rounds that the socially conscious right-back wants to lay down roots (geddit) in another league. He’s been with us for 9 or so years, I’m not sure he ever recovered physically or mentally from that injury so it might be time to try another catwalk. He is a good player, he’s young, and he’d fetch a pretty decent fee.

… I’d have to find another muse, but it’s fine, I’ll be ok.

CENTRAL DEFENDERS

Look, it’s obvious we need to shift on some of the centre backs, especially if we’re bringing in Gabriel. Sokratis is on a big salary, so he might have to be offered a way out of his deal in the same way Mikhi was. No one is going to him with £90k a week and a fee. Rob Holding would be perfect for a sale. He’s currently on his holidays with Jenks. I think he’d do well in the Premier League, he’d fit perfectly in a setup that didn’t require too much passing under pressure, like, maybe Burnley? We also have to exit Kola. He’s on a big contract because we bosman-d him a few years back, but he just hasn’t hit the mark, he’s not up to the mental rigours of the game, and his defending is really, really poor. There could at least be a fee there.

THE YOUNG GUNS

I think we’ll see some movement with the young players for sure this summer. I have no doubt that Matteo will find a new home, absolute LOLz from the back of the room that BIG UNAI is sniffing around for a loan deal, not sure that’s what the Frenchman had in mind. We really need to max out the fee for Matteo or get a major swap involved. Lyon beat Juve last night, they are back to the big time, we know they are interested, so maybe something can be done there with Aouar? We know that Balogun will be moved on for a fee of £8m, I’m having GnabryMalenJeffBennacerHOTsweats over that potential exit. Talking of Bennacer, he’s on his holidays with Reiss Nelson. Another player I expect to fetch a good fee this summer.

ALEX LACAZETTE

‘There ain’t room in this town for the two of us’ is what Auba apparently said when Edu told him the money for his new deal was coming from selling Lacazette. It’s apparent the French striker maybe doesn’t quite fit what we need in our forward line next season. He’s apparently drawn to Juventus. He’s a top goal scorer, he has a great attitude, and he’s a big name. We’ll either need to max out the fee there or make the swap count hard. We’ll also need to find a replacement, we can’t be heading into the next season relying on just Auba and Eddie.

SWOPPORTUNITIES

This summer is likely to be nuts. Stretched clubs trying to save money and face. Rich clubs trying to pick off the weaklings. There will be opportunities that pop up that could surprise. Mesut Ozil, our contractually obliged rock, might not fancy spending a year in Turkey doing nothing, hardly good for the profile. Someone might make a sexy offer for one of the players we thought unmovable (Granit/Mustafi/Leno). There are many things that could unexpectedly happen and I think we have to be open to them.

THE GOAL

We have to come out of the summer with a squad that is shaped to the vision of the manager. We need technically proficient players. That doesn’t simply mean being good on the ball, it means having the intelligence to absorb and execute complex ideas. We need to have a set of players up the physical challenges of the league. The right size, explosive pace, the ability to go 3 games a week without injury or loss of form. The major difference between ok players and the elite is the lack of mistakes. Pep always says that Garcia, who wants Barca, doesn’t make mistakes. Our Didier-Drogba-like-nightmare last year wasn’t a player, it was ‘UNFORCED ERROR.’ We need to change that up. We also need to bring in players that have the right mentality so when things inevitably go off the rails, we don’t have lower back pain issues for big away days.

We also need to start buying with long-term value in mind. Willian should be the exception, not the rule. If we’re a cost-conscious club, then we need to focus on players that have value if they don’t work out. We should look for opportunities in the market, like Gabriel and Saliba. That applies to the other end of the scale as well because we bought Pepe at 24 years old, but we spent so much on him, it’s very, very unlikely we’ll ever recoup that.

One last thing on the vision of Edu now focusing on data and analytics. We had a bit of a debate about it in the comments yesterday, some saying that it was logical that the Brazilian focused on restructuring the youth setup in his first year, over the scouting. I can’t for the life of me unpack those mental gymnastics. Firstly, you can do more than one thing at a time. Secondly, the youth setup, for all its failings, has produced Saka, Eddie, Willock, ESR, Balogun, Tyreece, and Smith.

The burning hot mess at Arsenal was surely our transfer approach? Why would you wait until year two to implement data and analytics? Because at best, if you are starting from scratch, it’s going to be at least another year before you see the fruits of a new centralised approach? Unless there is some tech partnership I’m unaware of? I mean, look, there is obviously a lot that I am unaware of, I’m just asking why you’d wait an entire year to decide all those people you’ve been working with are shite and that the approach was backwards. Surely the red flag was having to sign David Luiz to replace Laurent Koscielny when the club had a 3-month headstart? It seems like the corporate version of starting a job at Blockbuster Video and focusing your first year on a logo redesign versus addressing the Netflix issue.

Regardless, it’s done. Let’s see who Edu brings in or promotes and what sort remit they are given. I am more than game to see us try and behave like Liverpool and I’m glad that people at Arsenal think this move is a good one IF Edu is capable of hiring the right people.

Right, on that note, fuck off, see you in the virtual bar. xx

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  1. karim

    Matuidi having a medical before joining Beckham’s Inter Miami in spite of Lyon’s interest.
    Isco looks like Pirlo’s n 1 target for Juve.

  2. Gentlebris

    ‘Greenwood, I’m afraid to say, is a class above Nketiah and Martinelli.’

    How on earth is Greenwood better than Martinelli?

    Martinelli came from Ituano, in a 4th league and walked into a strange country, strange football and strange ways of doing things to bang 10 goals and counting until he was injured, and at such a tender age!

    And now Greenwood is better than him?

    Based on what exactly?

  3. Dream10

    Karim

    Matuidi is the ideal style of player to compensate for Cristiano’s lack of off the ball movement. Tremendous fitness record. Juve need more dynamism in midfield

  4. TR7

    Gilmour,Pulisic,Hudson Odoi and Loftus Cheek – Chelsea really have very promising youngsters in their team. Pulisic has the potential to be one of the best players in the league if he maintains his fitness. I really rate Loftus Cheek too.

  5. karim

    Dream

    Agree but Pirlo doesn’t want him apparently. Wonder if it’s not a little too early to leave Europe as well but playing for Becks in Miami can be cool too, so I can understand his choice.

  6. Dream10

    Hudson Odoi is right there with that group as well. If he’s unsettled at Chelsea, Arsenal should take the risk and sign him.

  7. Dissenter

    I’m not sure Arteta rates Martinelli as much as the typical gooner.
    He didn’t even play him in the two losing games we played after the restart, i.e before he got injured. He’s appeared to have behind Eddie on the pecking order.

  8. Dream10

    Karim

    Apparently Pirlo wants Isco. He is the most expensive option. They’re linked to Zaniolo (looks a top talent) and Locatelli who I haven’t seen.

    Think both Rabiot and Ramsey will be available. High earners who will be bench players.

  9. TR7

    I have been very critical of Nelson but in the last league game of our season he showed some promise. I would not mind persisting with him for one more season to see whether he can raise his game.

  10. Champagne Charlie

    How in the fuck are Villarreal buying Parejo AND Coquelin for 10 mil combined?

    Valencia are a shambles.

  11. Dissenter

    Dream10
    “Hudson Odoi is right there with that group as well. If he’s unsettled at Chelsea, Arsenal should take the risk and sign him.”
    N one is unsettling Hudson-Odoi. He hasn’t done a thing since he signed his big contract. Bayern will be glad they dodged that bullet. Why would we get him when we have Saka?

  12. Champagne Charlie

    Article about how we apparently see Willian as a central player, so there could well be scope for a Zaha signing on that basis.

    Still think we’re hoping to land Aouar and have Coutinho on standby.

  13. Dream10

    Dissenter

    They’ve signed have Ziyech, Mount, Pulisic, Werner and soon Havertz who can play the positions he plays. Coming back from injury as well.

    He’s more explosive from a standing start than Saka. Prefer young Bukayo to play at LWB in a 343/352 or LB. I think he has the potential to be one of the best when coming from deeper positions. But, he does prefer to be an attacking player.

  14. Chika

    I was stunned to see the fee for Parejo. Maybe now is the best time to cast our gaze upon Carlos Soler, thought Arteta was rumoured to be interested.

  15. Marko

    Charlie very risky to try a new position for someone in their 30’s might not be as productive. Much more likely is that there’ll be a flexibility to the front 3/4 this coming season. All I’ll say is I’ll trust in the approach to this summer and keep an open mind but I feel like we’ll be missing a trick if this summer Szoboszlai is available and we didn’t try to bring him in. Whatever happens

  16. Dissenter

    It seems we have to reassess out interest in Partey if Atletco are holding out for the full value of his exit clause.
    There have to be better deals in a depressed market such as the one we are seeing; Coquelin is 29 y/o, i he ‘s going that cheap then Spanish football is in a major financial crises.

  17. Habesha Gooner

    So the Covid Impact is starting to show now. I see big clubs spending. But I am not seeing any midtable and below clubs making expensive signings. There may not a market for our big wage old players. All of them may be staying.

  18. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    I don’t think Willian is untested centrally, pretty sure that’s always been his favoured position and played it at Shaktar. Could also be a manner of nurturing Saka for the role longer term versus getting someone that would potentially block his route altogether.

    Speculative as I say, also I don’t particularly buy it and still think we’re keen for Aouar/Coutinho. But could see the potential.

  19. CaliGooner

    AMN can play so many different positions well that I don’t think he would be a bit part player frankly.

    However if he is everyone’s backup then it is important to maximize his value and use it on a Partey or Gabriel.

    We still really need an attacking mid and if Coutinho is out who is in? They don’t come cheap.

  20. Dream10

    Willian’s medical looks to be done.
    150k a week. Probably a nice signing bonus too. Big agents know how to care of their clients.

    Raiola is either going to get Pogba a new five yr contract or get him a move to Real Madrid. Clubs hate them but their clients love them

  21. CG

    Dis 1.

    “””””””I’m not sure Arteta rates Martinelli as much as the typical gooner.
    He didn’t even play him in the two losing games we played after the restart, i.e before he got injured. He’s appeared to have behind Eddie on the pecking order.”””””

    Excellently observed.

    Dis 2

    “”””””There have to be better deals in a depressed market such as the one we are seeing; Coquelin is 29 y/o, i he ‘s going that cheap then Spanish football is in a major financial crises.”””””””””” (Partey)

    Excellently observed,again.

    (Transfer market crashed.)

    And the club still wants to shell out £50 million on a 28 year midfielder who don’t score or create too many??

    the name of the game is getting players like Partey/Courthhio/Willian when they are 24 not 28 or 32.

    Pepe for £72 million will be looking like a solid investment if The Dopes push on with this £50 million Party nonsense.

  22. Valentin

    I like when people in their bedroom make statements like billionaire do that and do that but under no circumstances will they do that.

    There is no one size fit all type of billionaire. A self made billionaire will not view the world via the same prism than a billionaire who inherited his/her fortune or even another billionaire who married into fortune.
    And that even before we take into account the cultural aspect of it, the intelligence of respective billionaire and their interest.

    Some tolerate fraud because they view it as just the cost of doing business. Others will rather lose fortune than feel than they have been taken advantage.

  23. Dissenter

    I mean is Partey good enough that we have to sell two good players to fund his transfer? I really don’t think he’s all that. I don’t know why the clamor for him is that great.
    I’m sure the club has a good plan B. 50 million is too much for Partey in this market.

  24. TR7

    Arteta is very pragmatic. He used counter attacking style to win the FA cup. He is targetting PL ready players even if they are old so that they can help us get back in to top 4 as soon as possible. 4 years out of CL, we can’t be looking too much at long term prospects. We need to be back in the big boys group ASAP. Not that we don’t have young players in our ranks – Saka, Martinelli, Nelson, ESR, AMN, Willock, Holding, Chambers, Nketiah are all very young.

  25. Valentin

    Martinelli is a different type of striker than Eddie. His all action style make it more impressive than Nkethia for casual fans, but Arteta may value what Eddie can bring more than most Gooners do.

    The same with Aubameyang. Aubameyang is a much better finisher than Lacazette, but Lacazette is a much better holder and team player than Aubameyang. That’s why one play as a central striker while the other plays on the left wing.

    If Liverpool did not have Firmino, I don’t think that Mane and Salah would be so impressive. Assuming a 4-2-3-1, I could see a better partnership in the EL games with Saka on the left, Martinelli/ESR in the middle as support striker, Eddie on top and Nelson on the right.

  26. azed

    “His ‘back injury’ nonsense reared it’s head again to avoid PR drama, but Ozil took exception to being dressed down and mailed it in when told to do extra to be ready. That was enough to burn bridges with Arteta, and from that point on the executive decision was made to back Arteta and freeze Ozil out the team no matter what in the interests of our future – setting the precedent if you like.”

    CC

    If I recall correctly, there was a period Emery said the same thing i.e “Ozil will play if he’s fit”

  27. Valentin

    Dissenter,

    Go on and Tell us all how all billionaires are the same and think alike. It is clear Trump and Elon Musk think the same. The Koch brothers and Bill Gates are the same. George Soros and Murdoch are buddies.

    At least I know lots of millionaires and as far as I know not all of them are alike.

  28. Dissenter

    Valentin
    So you admit that you’e basing your assertions observing them from a distance, same as everyone else.
    That’s all I wanted to know. Thanks man.

  29. Dissenter

    Hojgeberg is costing Spurs only 20 million, surely we can find comparable midfielders in Europe, even two for the price Atletico are trying to get for Partey.

  30. Marko

    I don’t think Willian is untested centrally

    Yeah I guess but there’s a difference between a winger who floats in centrally and asking someone to actually play as a number 10. But I agree I think it’s more speculative and I still expect a CAM signed

  31. Champagne Charlie

    “Hojgeberg is costing Spurs only 20 million, surely we can find comparable midfielders in Europe, even two for the price Atletico are trying to get for Partey“

    Or we can get comfortably twice the player in Partey?

  32. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    Remains to be seen, but I’ve confidence whoever we buy is being brought in with a clear idea and we’ll see them fit a system/role that accentuates their strengths.

    That’s the exciting part of this summer for me, not only are we seeing genuine talent targeted, but there’s every confidence that they’re coming into an environment where they’ll be properly utilised.

  33. Northbanker

    I’m sure we can get Soumare for £30m tops – so why don’t we press Lille to get him rather than be held to ransom by AM over Partey.

  34. mb

    “When Vieira joined he didn’t know any English. We gave him accommodation, phone, car & an English teacher. I talked to Patrick in French & before a game I asked in French, can you speak a bit of English to me? Patrick nodded & replied, ‘Tottenham are shit’.” – David Dein. #AFC

    I wish this lighten up the mood. This heat is killing (both on legrove and this bloody UK weather).

  35. Northbanker

    I think the master plan is for Coutinho and Willian to both play in CAM roles which is why Partey or Soumare will be vital playing behind them.

    Would prefer Willian on LW and use Auba into a Henry-type 9 role (Henry used to keep leaving his post to swerve left to link up with Pires). That’s a role that I suspect Martinelli will also eventually play. Both are wasted as LWs.

  36. Samesong

    Hojgeberg is costing Spurs only 20 million, surely we can find comparable midfielders in Europe, even two for the price Atletico are trying to get for Partey

    Eberechi Eze looks a talent.

  37. Freddie Ljungberg

    Samesong

    He’s a Cam though.

    Was released by our academy at 13 apparently.

    But yeah, if A. Madrid insists on the full release clause and we don’t want to stump that up there’s plenty of other options.

    /
    Have been speculating that Willian will be brought in as a Cam with how hard we’ve been going for Joelson. Doesn’t make sense to bring in 2 new wingers.

    Marko

    Agree about Szoboszlai, we need to pick him up regardless of what other business we do. 25m payable in 3 installments is a steal for a player with his potential.

  38. Valentin

    Marko,

    It’s the perk of the work, if you work in the city, most people above a certain level are millionaires.

    Of course when you work at a post office in the middle of nowhere your chance of meeting millionaires are small to remote.

  39. Valentin

    Dissenter,

    At least I am not the one making the sweeping generalisation that all billionaires think and behave the same.

  40. Dissenter

    Valentin
    Chill out. I thought you were talking from experience of being a billionaire. I was hoping to ask you for a tenner.

  41. Dissenter

    I hope the Partey rumors are …just rumors to distract the tabloids while we go after our real targets.
    If the going rate for a Parejo + Coquelin bundle is 13 million euros, then surely we should move on to better [ and cheaper things.

  42. Ken

    “The two aren’t mutually exclusive Marko you thick dub mongo”

    Supreme debating skills. This man is wasted here, should be an ambassador or politician of some kind.

  43. Marc

    Dissenter

    Assuming there’s no smoke without fire then if Partey has been identified as the player we want there’s a reason for it. If there were better and cheaper options you’d have thought we would have gone after them in the first place.

  44. Marko

    I hope the Partey rumors are …just rumors to distract the tabloids while we go after our real targets.
    If the going rate for a Parejo + Coquelin bundle is 13 million euros, then surely we should move on to better

    Absolutely no idea why you bring up two average players going for pittance and equate it to we should be getting Partey cheaper or should be looking elsewhere. It’s mind numbingly stupid commentary

  45. Terraloon

    21 or under players. Not in order

    Greenwood
    Saka
    Trent Alexander Arnold
    Pulisic
    Ampadu
    Martinelli

    Hudson-Odoi hasn’t had a good season but that in great part is down to him suffering the ACL injury. Far better to wait till next seasonIf the Martinelli injury is as bad as some fear it’s possible he will struggle on his return

  46. Northbanker

    Is this the same Coquelin we managed to get rid of a a few years back.? Jeez – why we’d want him I really don’t know. He veered between poor to ok to occasionally quite good. Hardly the stuff of revolutions.

  47. Northbanker

    Almost everyone in the South over a certain age is a millionaire I suspect. It means nothing – on paper I am twice over but i still need to work.

  48. Marko

    Ampadu
    Hudson-Odoi hasn’t had a good season but that in great part is down to him suffering the ACL injury

    I mean Ampadu couldn’t get a game at Leipzig

  49. Dissenter

    Marc
    Honestly, how much of Partey have you seen?
    I’ve see a bit of him and I’m at a loss what the noise is about.
    He’s good but not exceptional.
    I also doubt that he’s really 27 y/o [wink-wink]

  50. Marko

    I also doubt that he’s really 27 y/o [wink-wink]

    Yeah that would be you showing your ignorance though. In this regard I’ll trust the club and not the obvious ignorance of an American. Oops sorry I too like an occasional stereotype

  51. CG

    Dissenter

    “””””He’s good but not exceptional.
    I also doubt that he’s really 27 y/o [wink-wink]”””””

    Totally agree.( I am agreeing with you a lot today,)
    You will be popular.

    As it stands.
    Currently more clubs are trying to snare AMN than this Partey.

    If he takes a year to settle in and adjust to the pace of the prem etc – he will be 30 before we see the best of him in an AFC shirt.

    Party, Couinhio/William.
    Scouting by back of the fag packet.

    Lazy.

  52. Marc

    Dissenter

    I tend to trust the opinion of those at the club over fans. If they think he’s the guy I won’t judge (assuming we get him) till he’s had some time with us.

  53. London gunner

    Dissenter is a jekly and Hyde poster

    Comes out with some great insightful comments but also some complete utter nonsense. No offence intended just calling it like it is.

  54. Marko

    If he takes a year to settle in and adjust to the pace of the prem etc – he will be 30 before we see the best of him in an AFC shirt.

    27 by the way. Just had to check and yes 27 + 1 does in fact equals 30

  55. Luteo Guenreira

    Valentin
    Chill out. I thought you were talking from experience of being a billionaire. I was hoping to ask you for a tenner.

    LOL this might be the first time I laughed at a Dissenter joke out of genuine mirth.

    I haven’t read a Valentin comment in its entirety in almost two years btw, guy casually injects his opinion as fact and ridicules everyone else’s opinion as fantasy. It’s impossible to debate with someone whose logic works like that, a completely unreliable narrator.

  56. Luteo Guenreira

    On a different note, kind of excited to see the last 3 rounds of the Champions League play out in the span of less than a fortnight (not Fortnite, settle down your Ozil boner Pierre). Has the slightest of feels reminiscent to a World Cup or Euro tournament. I wonder how players feel about this format as opposed to waiting weeks between matches in a specific competition like they normally do.

  57. Terraloon

    Ampadu was up against Halsterburg and Upamecano at RB both top drawer and if fit and not making mistakes they were always likely to be given a staring berth

    RB finished third and had the second best defensive record letting in just 37 league goals
    When he did play, for instance in the CL, he looked accomplished but again another player whose season was blighted by injury

  58. Marko

    The years have been short but the days are long.

    Fucking A.

    Agree about the champions league as well. In fact the one game knock out system genuinely gives teams like Atalanta and Lyon an actual chance. I mean how great would it be if Atalanta won it. Almost deserved for the great attacking football from them these last two seasons

  59. CG

    UN

    “”””Oh CG He actually makes some strong points but he’s clearly on a wind up half the time and strings so many on here along for his own amusement”””””

    You may believe that.

    But I have just listened to my 1st Arseblog podcast and I virtually agree with all what was stated.

    So my views are hardly outlandish or controversial.

    (That Irish chap. Very impressive ).

    He clearly believes we have wrongs’ un in charge.
    And so do I.

  60. Dissenter

    There are many people here who don’t understand that age padding in athletes, especially Ghanaian footballers is an issue.
    Revel in the innocence of your ignorance.
    Ask anyone with knowledge about West African football, especially of athletes who are graduates of age group competitions …they’ll agree with me.

  61. Sid

    Excluding south Africa, age cheating is an issue in Africa
    If you follow siblings or family of players in social media its easy to get clues

  62. TR7

    CL this year is really interesting. Over 2 legs you would expect City to beat Lyonn, Bayern to beat Barca and Atletico to somehow get past Leipgig. But in one leg affair, there are no clear favorites. Atlanta vs PSG is as unpredicatble now as it would have been over 2 legs.

    Will be great to see Leipgig and Atlanta make it to the semis. Barca is also looking slightly better now with return of De Jong.

  63. Chris

    “ “When Vieira joined he didn’t know any English. We gave him accommodation, phone, car & an English teacher. I talked to Patrick in French & before a game I asked in French, can you speak a bit of English to me? Patrick nodded & replied, ‘Tottenham are shit’.” – David Dein. #AFC”

    That is absolutely glorious!

  64. Northbanker

    I promised myself this TW I would log into facts only (BBC;AFC) and give all the gossip sites a miss as being yet another waste of precious time on Earth. (How many years I’ve been doing this is scary)

    And yet today must have checked the transfer gossip at least 15x. Nothing has happened of course.

    Tomorrow I must seek the cure

  65. CG

    UN

    “””””The Irish fella is hilarious. Cracked a joke the other day about Emery and had me belly laughing.””””

    He is a smooth operator.
    And he also knows we are travelling down the wrong path with this mob in charge.

    the word that stood out for me on the podcast was ‘coup’

    and that’s exactly whats happened at Arsenal.

    (I will listen to the next one as well.)

  66. Marko

    There are many people here who don’t understand that age padding in athletes, especially Ghanaian footballers is an issue.
    Revel in the innocence of your ignorance.

    It’s a common prejudice directed towards African footballers and like a typical ignorant yank you’ll just dig a little deeper without any factual evidence. Go on Dissenter throw up the Breitbart article that backs up your claim

  67. Chris

    I would like to see Lyon, Leipzig and Atalanta in the semi finals. With one off games you never know.

    I may be reading the draw wrong but can Wolves and Man Utd meet in the EL final?

  68. Marko

    Seems legit. All those famous African footballers playing at big European clubs. How could they not do their due diligence.

    There are claims Kanu and vieira we’re older than they made out too

    Well that’s got me convinced. Also were not we’re

  69. Chika

    As long as Partey is as fit as the age on his passport, I’m fine with that. The club should determine what sort of medicals they deem fit.

    The age thing among African and to an extent South American footballers is nothing new. There’s no need for anyone to sound like he just unearthed a scoop or revelation.

  70. Luteo Guenreira

    In the US it’s quite commonplace to believe that overseas prospects for a lot of sports lie about their ages in order to help themselves in the eyes of scouts and professional organizations. It’s not so much about Africans as no one really goes to the US at young ages to play football, the most egregious cases belong to seasoned veteran Cuban defectors/Latin American baseball talent that want organizations thinking they will be able to play longer than they actually can.

    There’s also the odd African basketball talent that’s only been playing for 1-2 years, drafted for his height and athleticism, scouts thinking they can nurture the potential of a 19 yr old into stardom when he’s actually 24 and probably not getting much better.

    Danny Almonte of Little League is another famous example, 14 year old marked as a 12yr old mowing down little children with a fastball and wispy facial hair.

  71. Valentin

    Marc,

    You make sweeping generalisation on billionaire and assume those are facts when the reality would show that being a billionaire does not make you a nice guy, a psychopath or a genius.

    Some billionaire care about their money. Others don’t. Some want accountability for people working for them. Others don’t.

    Trump the so called stable genius knew that his underlings were fleecing him, but as long as business was booming (according to him) and that they were stroking his ego, he did not care.

    Kroenke has a long term view, so he may not really care of what is going at Arsenal as long as it aasets slowly appreciates. Arsenal may be important to us fans, but for him it is a small investment compare to the size of his portfolio.

    There is a lot of absent owners of companies, club, properties.

  72. Danny S

    Marko

    It’s incredibly well known about African footballers lying about age.
    There was an article recently about the Nigerian team when it had a terrible World Cup, the coach I think said they were paying the price for all the padding that had gone on and were playing with an ancient team.

  73. Dissenter

    Danny S
    Say no more
    Partey is 27 years old and the sun rises in the west.
    I hope Arsenal do their due diligence before spending 50 million on any player.

  74. Mr Serge

    I just watched the Anelka doc on Netflix I have to say selling him was the second most dissapointed I ever was about selling any player ever from my time supporting our club the first being Rocky
    What a player the kid was and I know we got Henry because we sold him but to this day you have to say what if ? What if we kept him

  75. andy1886

    Sorry Val, but there have been numerous studies to show that the super wealthy show a higher degree of socially adverse personality traits specifically Machiavellianism, Psychopathy, and Narcissism (what psychologists call the “Dark Triad”).

  76. Chika

    Yeah yeah we all witnessed how age falsification hampered the output of Kanu, Toure, Lauren and Adebayor to name but a few.

  77. Valentin

    Andy,

    The study that I read showed that the number of sociopath were the same, but the level of organisation skill were not the same. According to that women report, Disorganised sociopath become petty criminals, small con men and domestic abuser while organised one become CEO. 😉

    The one thing that the study showed that I was not expected beforehand was that the level of paranoid were much higher.
    Which when you think about it make sense. You are more likely to stay at the top if you suspect everybody.

  78. Marc

    “Some billionaire care about their money. Others don’t. Some want accountability for people working for them. Others don’t.”

    You really are naive on an epic scale – people who have money but don’t care if people steal it don’t have money for long.

    Twat.

  79. Jamie

    “Arsenal may be important to us fans, but for him it is a small investment compare to the size of his portfolio.”

    Kroenke worth about 8B, Arsenal is valued at about 2B. 25% seems like a rather large chunk of his portfolio.

  80. Marc

    Jamie

    Waiting for Valentin to start lying about stuff or deny he said something even though people reference the time of the comment, usually about 7 minute before.

  81. Marko

    Say no more
    Partey is 27 years old and the sun rises in the west.

    Again it’s that thick American prejudice just shining through in everything he says. Probably the smallest percentage of the thousands of African footballers in Europe have issues with their age but sure enough it’s enough of a streotype to levie at every African footballer. Lad’s been at Atletico since he was 17 I’m sure they know what age he is really. Interesting stance to take on a signing you’re not keen on. I would have just gone with not being keen on the actual player but two or three times now you’ve gone with a racial streotype. It’s a bold move dissenter

  82. Marko

    Kroenke worth about 8B, Arsenal is valued at about 2B. 25% seems like a rather large chunk of his portfolio.

    Shut up mate it’s tiny. I actually don’t know what Val is up to is he trying to say Stan doesn’t care about the club he paid whatever for and that’s worth about 3 billion? I wish I was rich enough that I didn’t have to care about 3 billion

  83. Marko

    Dissenter you have known racist Don backing what you said so you know it’s correct. Best avoid Partey he’s too expensive and in his 50’s I heard

  84. Danny S

    Marko

    Are you a bit thick?

    In trying to prove a point about dissenter stereotyping Africans, you are using the term ‘thick American prejudice ’ to stereotype Americans.

    Almost comical.

  85. Danny S

    But I suppose Americans arnt black so you can’t quote the race card maybe?

    I do t know, just trying to find some logic.

  86. Marko

    In trying to prove a point about dissenter stereotyping Africans, you are using the term ‘thick American prejudice ’ to stereotype Americans.

    I mean it was pretty obvious. I’m doing it more tongue in cheek though clearly

  87. Danny S

    Maybe you need to work on your delivery Marko. Seemed more agenda driven than ‘tongue in cheek’.

    From a neutral perspective.

  88. Habesha Gooner

    Twitter Itk saying Arteta sees Willian Central. So No attacking midfielder then.

    That may mean if Lacazette stays Nelson might go out on loan. I don’t agree with it but we will see how it goes.

  89. Marko

    Pretending to defend Africa won’t stop you being a bell end.

    Yeah that’s it I’m defending Africa. It’s basic common sense major European clubs do their due diligence on players and Thomas Partey has been at Atletico since he was 17 so I’m pretty sure they know his age. But dissenter has been arguing against the signing all day and it started with the price and then it became this false claim about his age because for some reason he’s obsessed with the clubs finances and wants them to save as much money as possible. It’s just him really being a horrible prick trying to get his point across. But anyway enough with it. I suppose that’s what we’ll have to deal with everytime we get linked with an African player.

  90. Pierre

    Nelson
    “Havertz can only play with his left leg.”

    Not being condescending but the normal term is left footed ,not left legged.

    Just for future reference.

  91. Dissenter

    Marko
    “In trying to prove a point about dissenter stereotyping Africans, you are using the term ‘thick American prejudice ’ to stereotype Americans.”

    You’re having a tough day.
    Unai na just pointed the collsal hypocrisy in the faux outrage you’re throwing around.
    It’s plain fact that age padding happens a lot. Many a Nigerian posters including Receding hairline has made the same point about Partey’s age. My heritage is Nigerian you sick fuck and it’s not racist to admit that these athletes pad their age.
    Just shut your gob and sop making a fool of yourself. You need some introspection.

  92. Radio Raheem

    Does anyone watch Danish football? 😂

    The goalie Johnsson for Copenhagen has been brilliant. And I’ve only caught the last few minutes of the match.

  93. Dissenter

    *Unai na just pointed the collosal hypocrisy in the faux outrage you’re throwing around.
    *Just shut your gob and stop making a fool of yourself. You need some introspection.

    Corrected because petty Marko will jump all over it.

  94. Dissenter

    Raheem
    Denmark are in a good phase of very good young players of which Pierre-Emile Højbjerg is an example.

  95. salparadisenyc

    Rasmus Falk was quite good as well, as for Danish football not high up the list unless the lady’s are playing.