Listen, I’ve had my say on Arsenal this week. The bad news must surely all be out, so I’ll move on and land more positive vibes.
We’ve ditched our scouting department. From what I understand from multiple places, this is a really smart move and we shouldn’t fear it. Our hit rate has been miserable for years and we’ve wasted a lot of money.
If Edu says he wants to move to a Michael-Edwards-Liverpool-style of data intelligence, then let’s see if he does it. Nothing he’s done at Arsenal so far suggests that’s what he’s about, so the onus is on him to make the right promotions, bring in the best talent, and move beyond CHECK DIS GUY e-mails from Kia for his transfer inspiration.
With regards to the layoffs, it sounds like they went right at the areas of business that are, well, pretty redundant for the foreseeable. Sales, admin, and premium partnerships. I’d have had them on commission for selling our best players for ‘very good price’ to the highest bidder this summer, but it is what it is, Arsenal wants to be a cost-conscious business in a pandemic, so there we are.
What all the bad news won’t change is that the manager we have at the club is the real deal. The players finally have someone in charge that commands respect, the training ground is buzzing again, and there is a very clear and ambitious vision Arteta is trying to unlock.
So what next?
Well, summer is about to start. Let’s walk through the smoke and see if we can identify where the fires🔥 are at.
Auuuuuuba
Our BEST player is apparently nearing a 3 year £250k a week deal to stay at Arsenal. He’s happy, the elders are happy, the deal is close. This would be huge news and a testament to the coach that he’s managed to convince a man in his absolute prime that 8th place Arsenal is the destination for him. Auba has been committed, he’s developed his game, and his leadership has been all about setting an example for others. What a deal that’d be.
One of his stipulations is that he wants to see that Pam in accounts safe in her job… along with some big money spent on this squad. Some papers are saying the club is looking to drop £100m… if we can shift on talent.
QUESTION: How long does the club wait on the deal? What happens if he says no?
Ainsley
One of the players who has been put up for sale is Ainsley. The versatile midfielder turned right-back has been told if the big money comes in for him this summer, he’ll be moved on. The caveat is that Mikel doesn’t want to see him go. Bit of a weird caveat. One thing is for sure, we’re stocked down the right and no one is buying Soares out of his freshly minted 4-year deal. A £30m fee is being mooted, which seems quite high given the moment. I don’t fully understand the thinking here, I think the player has been excellent when called upon, he seems to pick up Arteta’s instructions quicker than most, and he’s executed plans to the T at the highest level. Maybe we’ve pumped his value? Maybe the player wants to be the name ALWAYS on the teamsheet? Seems an odd one, but if that’s what the management brain trust wants, then there we are.
Torreira
I read a tweet where someone said ‘I feel like Torreira has been talking about leaving since joining’, and I agree.
“Today I need to think about my future very well. I have a contract with the club and I have to respect it, obviously if I have to leave it will be for the best. We have to be calm and wait”
Look, this is what happens when you bring in the right profile of player and pay them market rate. LT had some promise… it didn’t work out, so we’ll sell him back to the country he came from at a similar price point. Torreira looked like he made sense, aggressive, good on the ball, with sharp technical skills. The problem has been that he just isn’t at the right level physically for the Premier League. If we can get a deal from Milan (YO IVAN) or Torino (his old coach now there), then everyone would be happy.
Hector
There are also a lot of rumours doing the rounds that the socially conscious right-back wants to lay down roots (geddit) in another league. He’s been with us for 9 or so years, I’m not sure he ever recovered physically or mentally from that injury so it might be time to try another catwalk. He is a good player, he’s young, and he’d fetch a pretty decent fee.
… I’d have to find another muse, but it’s fine, I’ll be ok.
CENTRAL DEFENDERS
Look, it’s obvious we need to shift on some of the centre backs, especially if we’re bringing in Gabriel. Sokratis is on a big salary, so he might have to be offered a way out of his deal in the same way Mikhi was. No one is going to him with £90k a week and a fee. Rob Holding would be perfect for a sale. He’s currently on his holidays with Jenks. I think he’d do well in the Premier League, he’d fit perfectly in a setup that didn’t require too much passing under pressure, like, maybe Burnley? We also have to exit Kola. He’s on a big contract because we bosman-d him a few years back, but he just hasn’t hit the mark, he’s not up to the mental rigours of the game, and his defending is really, really poor. There could at least be a fee there.
THE YOUNG GUNS
I think we’ll see some movement with the young players for sure this summer. I have no doubt that Matteo will find a new home, absolute LOLz from the back of the room that BIG UNAI is sniffing around for a loan deal, not sure that’s what the Frenchman had in mind. We really need to max out the fee for Matteo or get a major swap involved. Lyon beat Juve last night, they are back to the big time, we know they are interested, so maybe something can be done there with Aouar? We know that Balogun will be moved on for a fee of £8m, I’m having GnabryMalenJeffBennacerHOTsweats over that potential exit. Talking of Bennacer, he’s on his holidays with Reiss Nelson. Another player I expect to fetch a good fee this summer.
ALEX LACAZETTE
‘There ain’t room in this town for the two of us’ is what Auba apparently said when Edu told him the money for his new deal was coming from selling Lacazette. It’s apparent the French striker maybe doesn’t quite fit what we need in our forward line next season. He’s apparently drawn to Juventus. He’s a top goal scorer, he has a great attitude, and he’s a big name. We’ll either need to max out the fee there or make the swap count hard. We’ll also need to find a replacement, we can’t be heading into the next season relying on just Auba and Eddie.
SWOPPORTUNITIES
This summer is likely to be nuts. Stretched clubs trying to save money and face. Rich clubs trying to pick off the weaklings. There will be opportunities that pop up that could surprise. Mesut Ozil, our contractually obliged rock, might not fancy spending a year in Turkey doing nothing, hardly good for the profile. Someone might make a sexy offer for one of the players we thought unmovable (Granit/Mustafi/Leno). There are many things that could unexpectedly happen and I think we have to be open to them.
THE GOAL
We have to come out of the summer with a squad that is shaped to the vision of the manager. We need technically proficient players. That doesn’t simply mean being good on the ball, it means having the intelligence to absorb and execute complex ideas. We need to have a set of players up the physical challenges of the league. The right size, explosive pace, the ability to go 3 games a week without injury or loss of form. The major difference between ok players and the elite is the lack of mistakes. Pep always says that Garcia, who wants Barca, doesn’t make mistakes. Our Didier-Drogba-like-nightmare last year wasn’t a player, it was ‘UNFORCED ERROR.’ We need to change that up. We also need to bring in players that have the right mentality so when things inevitably go off the rails, we don’t have lower back pain issues for big away days.
We also need to start buying with long-term value in mind. Willian should be the exception, not the rule. If we’re a cost-conscious club, then we need to focus on players that have value if they don’t work out. We should look for opportunities in the market, like Gabriel and Saliba. That applies to the other end of the scale as well because we bought Pepe at 24 years old, but we spent so much on him, it’s very, very unlikely we’ll ever recoup that.
One last thing on the vision of Edu now focusing on data and analytics. We had a bit of a debate about it in the comments yesterday, some saying that it was logical that the Brazilian focused on restructuring the youth setup in his first year, over the scouting. I can’t for the life of me unpack those mental gymnastics. Firstly, you can do more than one thing at a time. Secondly, the youth setup, for all its failings, has produced Saka, Eddie, Willock, ESR, Balogun, Tyreece, and Smith.
The burning hot mess at Arsenal was surely our transfer approach? Why would you wait until year two to implement data and analytics? Because at best, if you are starting from scratch, it’s going to be at least another year before you see the fruits of a new centralised approach? Unless there is some tech partnership I’m unaware of? I mean, look, there is obviously a lot that I am unaware of, I’m just asking why you’d wait an entire year to decide all those people you’ve been working with are shite and that the approach was backwards. Surely the red flag was having to sign David Luiz to replace Laurent Koscielny when the club had a 3-month headstart? It seems like the corporate version of starting a job at Blockbuster Video and focusing your first year on a logo redesign versus addressing the Netflix issue.
Regardless, it’s done. Let’s see who Edu brings in or promotes and what sort remit they are given. I am more than game to see us try and behave like Liverpool and I’m glad that people at Arsenal think this move is a good one IF Edu is capable of hiring the right people.
Right, on that note, fuck off, see you in the virtual bar. xx
Only in this place would you have Ox being compared to Gerrard you dumb fucking cunts what is wrong with you. He’s not fit to lace Gerrard’s boots or clean his jock strap
Arsenal midfielder Lucas Torreira is Atletico Madrid bound, according to Mundo Deportivo.
He could move to the Spanish capital as part of a deal that will see Thomas Partey move in the opposite direction.
Ox has improved under Klopp.
When I say excellent, I mean brilliant.
Put Gerrard in a peak Barcelona or Madrid side and he would struggle technically But ox would thrive in peak Barcelona? Man, Has no one seen Gerrard play. He started as an attacking midfielder and went further back in his latter years. I Reckon he could play the busquets role with out breaking a sweat. He was that good. Volley goals, Passing, Power. He had everything. You guys are comparing a technically rough, Powerful runner to Gerrard. Ox would never play a holding midfielder role. I remember him playing for us. He used to run to the corner flag and… Read more »
I suspect we will pay money for Partey and Atleti will pay money for Torreira and it will work out at a similar amount but with positive implications to each of our balance sheets. Simeone I reckon would love Torr as well as Penalzette so maybe we offload two and seek a better deal. Such confusing and conflicting messaging coming from the club but it shouldn’t be too difficult for us to go into next season with a better first squad. Particularly with Saliba already there. With Auba I alternate between wanting him to sign and thinking we should move… Read more »
The £40m for Oxlade was the club operating as it should for me, same could be said for Iwobi’s exit. I’m on the fence regarding AMN because he’s started to show promise under this manager coupled with fact Arteta wants to keep him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tj2zJ2Wvg
Ox vs Gerrard
Honestly who cares.
Marko
The Torreira story is interesting – don’t think any concrete will happen or at least be announced until AM’s season is over though.
Ganesha, What made Gerard special wasn’t his technical ability, though of course he was great all round.
While an undoubted simpleton, he was a leader who drove the team on to deliver more than their ability. And to keep going regardless of their situation. Tony Adams had a similar effect on us.
That leadership gene has been so lacking from our team for so Long.
Moray
There seems to be a similar thing going on with the Spud’s and Southampton. Both selling each other a player rather than a swap plus £X amount.
“That leadership gene has been so lacking from our team for so Long.”
Couldn’t agree more – what I’d give for an Adam’s or Vieira type personality in the team.
Moray I think you’re probably right it’s going to end up being something along the lines of what happened with Arthur and Pjanic and Holjberg and walkers peters where it’s effectively a swap but it’s just both clubs buying up the player like normal. I must say I’m really liking the noise coming out of the club this summer. Seems like there’s a conscious effort to address the squad and to get rid of players who just aren’t doing it.
Gerrard’s pace and power for midfielder was incredible. De Bruyne has it as well. Unbelievable engine.
Habesha Gooner
You are right. Ox was kind of blind when he was with us. Klopp has switched him to be one of the 3 midfielders. He looks better but far from the level of Steve Gerrard.
Ox only turns 27 in a week. Let the young gun develop without pressure.
Willian penned an open letter to Chelsea fans, he’s ours.
The departure of Willian has some Chelsea fans over the moon.
We won’t regret Willian. He will become a fan favorite in no time.
“Ox only turns 27 in a week. Let the young gun develop without pressure.“
Him and Lingard the future of the Three Lions.
I mean some fans might be over the moon but Chelsea offered him a contract they wanted to keep him
Cha
“””Willian penned an open letter to Chelsea fans, he’s ours.””
You can have him.
Luiz II.
Same Samba combo. Edu/Kia strike again.
We never ******* LEARN!
“Him and Lingard the future of the Three Lions.”
Exactly. Plenty of scope to become worldies before their best days are behind them in 18 months.
William’s last 4 read as follows
16/17
41 appearances
12 goals
5 assists
17/18
55 appearances
13 goals
12 assists
18/19
56 appearances
8 goals
14 assists
19/20
47 appearances
11 goals
9 assists
So all in all he’s basically ever present rarely injured these past few years and posts up decent numbers on the regular.
Remember the good ole days of Gerrard and Lampard vs Gerrard or Lampard.
Willian will be a brilliant signing.
60+ goals and 60+ assists during his time at Chelsea shows how productive he is
Not only his own stats which is of course very very good but also how he will help players around him put up better numbers by making our attack more potent.
Willian is the opposite to Xhaka. Willian is like a locomotive with the ball while Xhaka is a slow turning pole.
TR7
“”””Willian will be a brilliant signing.”‘””””
I am intrigued whose position he will take?
Or in the same week , we are having 55 redundancies he is just a bench warmer for the next 1000 days of his Arsenal career or do we need his mystical Brazilian magic for The Loosers Cup?
I would actually say – you will struggle to find a more prosperous signing during these Corona times…
Having said… The Dopes are lining up another Brazilian has been.
I mean he’s definitely brought in to help with the significant lack of creativity and goalscoring opportunities we had last season. So for me I don’t wanna comment too much on his signing because as an isolated signing it’s okay for me but part of the overall business we do this summer it could be great. But like I said I’m very much on board with these types of signings as long as there’s still some young prospect coming in. For every Willian or Coutinho I’d like to see a Joelson or Szoboszlai or Almada or whoever you know.
I think the best way to measure whether a new signing is going to be a success is the “CG rant scale”.
The more irate CG is about a possible / new signing the better the player will be for us.
Agree w/ Marko there, hard to judge Willian signing based on today. Lets see how rest of window shakes out. Many positives w/ few negatives to his addition, notably age.
But what can’t be denied is Willian created more chances than any player in our side last season by quite a stretch. Exciting thought when you add PEA to that equation.
Think Arsenal were in the last 5 for chances created for this season so its huge to address that out of the gate.
Marko
In 339 game really isn’t that impressive . Or in his 618 club game career 103 goals .
In truth Willian and Ozil have around the same return and I don’t see anyone on here begging up Ozil
Oh Aubameyang will love playing with him Pepe too. Plus dare I say that we’re surrounding future superstar Gabriel Martinelli with all the ingredients to flourish long term here. I mean we’re now a proper attractive destination for young Brazilian/South American talent
In 339 game really isn’t that impressive .
60+ goals and assists for a winger isn’t impressive? Huh
In truth Willian and Ozil have around the same return and I don’t see anyone on here begging up Ozil
Yeah difference between recent numbers though. And they don’t
Ozil despite being a CAM drifts to wide areas away from the box whereas Willian despite being a winger drifts inside and dribble his way in to the box. That for me is the biggest difference between the two players notwithstanding their respective stats.
TR7 that and Willian has managed to maintain his drive and production as he’s gotten older.
The big difference between Oil and Willian is that you Willian won’t be having backache problems on those tough away games. That’s the difference people.
And that Willian isn’t semi retired.
If Ozil was still putting up those numbers we wouldn’t have the massive problem with creativity we have and wouldn’t be so desperate for him to fuck off that we’re thinking of buying out his last year.
pointless comparing present day Ozil with any footballer still playing today, he’ll always look worse, no matter if it’s with a youth player in his first year of senior football or a 32 year old with only a couple of years left of his career.
Willian isn’t a stat padder, he’s scored important goals and delivered big performances in key moments which points to a good character between the ears.
He’s a shrewd signing, provided the rest of our speculated summer template comes to fruition.
Willian incoming , Aubameyang signs da ting and Gabriel in . Window looks good so far to me . Only would rate it awesome if we move some shit players . Gabriel , Saliba , Mari + Holding & Luiz . Chambers and Mustafi cant be sold so Sokratis and Kolasinac should be packing their bags . By January 2 of Mustafi / Chambers / Holding will be finalized
Ozil is retired from Arsenal, no question about that moment he wouldn’t budge on wages with rest of side it was game over.
Well, Martinez has laid down the gauntlet! He will only stay if he gets game time next season. You can hardly blame him – he is 27, wants to be the Argentinian No 1, has been at the club 10 years and has put in stellar performances this season. Over to you Mr Arteta!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8609161/Emiliano-Martinez-threatens-QUIT-Arsenal-warning-Mikel-Arteta-need-games.html
Sadly we’ve missed out on Carlos Tevez whose signed extension with Boca Juniors at 37 ✌️
“You can hardly blame him – he is 27, wants to be the Argentinian No 1, has been at the club 10 years“
Only fair when he’s got 12 months left at the top
“””””Willian isn’t a stat padder, he’s scored important goals and delivered big performances in key moments which points to a good character between the ears.””””
When?
Sal
You seriously believe that’s the only reason we want him gone? He has done nothing on the pitch in 2 years ffs while bagging 350k a week for the privilege. All the while getting sick before any challenging away game.
The club can’t afford passengers, especially not when they’re supposed to be the fulcrum of the team and fails massively, and being our highest earner ever. Maybe the wage cut plays a small part but it’s only a continuation of Ozils character in the last couple of years, always himself first and never thinking about the clubs best interest.
Freddy
Theres CLEARLY a litany of reasons but that was ultimate nail for Arteta who was playing him prior.
Ox peaked about 5 years ago give or take
In a less dramatic vein than wilshere, he’s very much one of those ‘what might have been’ players who will spend the final third of his career in obscurity at a lower mid table club
He’s a shrewd signing, provided the rest of our speculated summer template comes to fruition.
True. It’s easy to see why Mikel wants the deal is happy with Willian joining. Right off the bat he’s got a player he can depend on
Sal
Maybe. I think he was played only for sentimental reasons because Arteta played with him when he wasn’t shite and he came to his senses during the lockdown.
The club has been trying to get rid for a long time though so unless he suddenly became a top player again he was always going to be forced out this summer if possible.
I like to think that Arteta just noticed that even tho ozil was in the team and the results were okay, and even though he was doing a bit of running, he was fundamentally not very valuable to our performances People were so impressed that he was willing to break a sweat in the game, but any league 1 n10 can break a sweat. Top end players are supposed to control games. He was not doing that. Supporting the press a bit is what you’re supposed to do *on top* of creating chances, setting the tempo and controlling the game.… Read more »
Freddy
You’ll get zero argument for me regarding the willingness to see back of Ozil after that mental contract.
Arteta came back to a different Ozil, no question.
I think Ozils initial games under Mikel were him trying to see if there was something left worth salvaging. Performances and training probably wasn’t up to scratch and since then he doesn’t play.
The saddest part of the ozil story is that for the first half of that season leading up to his new contract, he was doing all those things. Creating, controlling, assisting and putting a shift in on the regular. It was the only period at arsenal where he was looking like he was *really* trying
And the clever bastard was rewarded for his efforts from Aug-Dec with that ridiculous contract. And when did his form and effort vanish? Immediately after, never to return. Remarkable coincidence!
I still recall Pierre fuming with me when I said pretty much the exact same thing as my last comment above this one about ozil working harder to earn a pay day then switching off completely
Years and years later and it couldn’t have been any more accurate
China
It’s not the first time we’ve seen that type of thing. Every time Walcott’s contract was running down he’d step it up, RVP spent what 8 seasons constantly injured and then suddenly managed to keep fit the season he’d clearly planned to leave at the end of even AMN has managed his best performances for us just as he decided to leave.
The thing with Ozil is just the crazy contract he was given.
Pedro and others I know that there has been criticism about the management and also some of the outgoing transfer decisions including the potential sale of AMN. However, I think that if some of the rumours prove true Arsenal’s current transfer planning is absolutely correct. 1. Ozil and Mkhitaryan to be free transferred even if it means paying ou incase of Ozil part of his salary. 2. Maximising transfer budget with sale of second/third string players who can be sold and are not considered good enough to start in games. 3. Offloading other players who are clearly not going to… Read more »
Arteta sussed Ozil in a couple of months. Saw the application pickup initially and then he went back to resting on his laurels, coasting on his creative ability, and saying fuck it to the grunt work and collective effort.
Ozil’s ability has never ever been doubted by anyone sensible, his attitude and application has. Failed the final test at Arsenal in a big way, quite sad.
Clear where his priorities lie, and they aren’t with the team. Bin him, replace him with someone half as talented and 3x as dedicated and watch him be a mere memory.
I’m a fan of Niles. Think he’s a really good versatile footballer. I understand that some on here aren’t fans.
Someone explain the Cedric signing to me.
Even Southampton were surprised that we came in for him
Emirates
If the players we’ve been heavily linked to are signed and we can continue moving out some of the dross (not sure we can do it all this summer) then I really don’t know what the criticism of Sanllehi and Edu can be.
We are bringing in the odd older player but that’s being balanced by younger players as well. Add in players who should be considered ready to go and it’s an intelligent balanced recruitment plan.
Dream10
Well how about AMN had gone public announcing he didn’t want to play either full or wing back and our first choice RB was recovering from an ACL injury.
According to Mirrow.co.UK, the Arsenal board is finally ready to make an offer to pay Ozil off and reaches a deal or subsidise his £350,000-a-week wages if he moves to another club.
#Mirror
Marc Let’s consider potential squad for next season: GK LENO GK MARTINEZ CB MUSTAFI CB LUIZ CB MAGHALAES CB SALIBA CB MARI RB BELLERIN RB SOARES LB TIERNEY LB/LW SAKA DMF PARTEY DMF XHAKA CMF CEBALLOS CMF WILLOCK AMF COUTINHO AMF SMITH-ROWE RW PEPE RW NELSON LW/RW WILLIAN LW/CF MARTINELLI CF/LW AUBAMEYANG CF LACAZETTE CF NKETIAH I know that there might be debate about Mustafi and perhaps Lacazette as well but Arsenal will need to keep some experience at CB and I still think that Lacazette is worth 15 goals + a season in a better team. This squad would… Read more »
Strong squad Stroller as you alluded to i’d be very surprised to land that without using Lacazette as a funding source.
Gabriel transfer has it a wall. No agreement on fee. Napoli about to sell koulibaly and Pay the fee lille want. Thankfully his preference is Arsenal. It’s not looking good though.
Lacazette is off for sure. We need money for reinforcements his contract is running down and I don’t see his performances justifying a new deal
Habesha
Sauce?
Emirates We’re certainly beginning to see the shape of a team / squad that can perform at a higher level. I do think that there’s a good chance we’ll see Bellerin, Laca and Mustafi sold – I seem to be one of the only people who thinks Mari been bought with more than giving an agent a bung. The best news in all of that is if we have Partey and Ceballos back they will quickly become first choice CM’s and Xhaka will begin to look like the very limited player he is again so he’ll be sold next summer.… Read more »
Habesha
People were having meltdowns on here last summer because the Tierney deal didn’t happen in less than a nano second.
In our corner we have:
Sanllenhi – master of the deal
Edu – the Brazilian connection
Arteta – makes Stokes Tomato Ketchup look like Happy Shopper own brand
Pepe – can’t remember said it yesterday but apparently they’re great mates
And of course London.
I feel like those recent reports that Lille wanted club mouthpieces to keep shut so as not to delay or influence the Gabriel transfer is coming through. Everything looks like it’s on for us
To change the subject a bit, here’s an interesting article on the limitations of Xg
“according to the Xg points table, Man City should have won the league by 13 points.”
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/aug/09/liverpool-xg-jurgen-klopp
A Twitter Itk that has been predicting everything we have done so far. From Willian to Aubas new contract and even Hoiberg transfer faster than anyone. I think it’s trust worthy.
Marc I think that Arsenal will need to keep a couple of experienced CBs on books and when Mustafi was playing well and before his injury there was some suggestion that he might even be offered an extension. Sokratis is leaving for sure and I think that both Chambers and Holding are still behind Mustafi in pecking order. I agree that Lacazette can be sold, but with the demands of 50+ games a season can we afford to have a squad without a proven second string striker who is not a proven goalscorer. Martinelli is better in that department than… Read more »
Habesha
Who?
https://mobile.twitter.com/GoonerTaIk?p=s
People were having meltdowns on here last summer because the Tierney deal didn’t happen in less than a nano second.
Oh I remember. All those crock jock comments and how we should have moved on to a different target when Celtic were posturing on a fee.
You could insert… every summer.
Arsenal supporters in a transfer window… smh.
Marko
The same people who were screaming abuse that we didn’t just get it done were bitching about his cost 5 minutes later.
Marc 25 million steal for the lad. And what do you know he looks finally fit
Marko
He really does look like he’s going to be a top player – you can tell how good because CG is desperately waiting for an excuse to have a pop at him.
On the issue of Ozil. The player has approximately a contract with just over 10
months to run. That is about £16 million.
I am pretty sure that there must be a club on the planet who are willing to loan
him for rest of his contract and pay £5-6 million towards his wage bill.
That saving would be better than what is going on at moment.
Top 4 is up for grabs if we get all our targets signed.
It depends on the targets Karim. But certainly give Arteta a better squad to work with and we should be able to compete for top 4.
Marko
In 234 league games for Chelsea Willian scored 37.
In 270 league games for Arsenal Theo scored 65.
In 137 league games for Chelsea Pedro scored 29
During all league games whilst at Chelsea in 466 games Chelsea scored 502 and as I say Willian scored 37.
Willian has never been anything close to delivering a decent goals to game ratio in league games.
There is no doubt he is a busy player but prolific he ain’t and as for delivering a decent ratio in terms of goals per game I just can’t see it
Emirates
Don’t tell Pedro but we do have an offer on the table to do precisely that with Ozil unfortunately it means dealing with a Super agent and Sanllehi has said he won’t compromise values he’s held for a lifetime.
Emirates
‘ I am pretty sure that there must be a club on the planet who are willing to loan
him [Ozil] for rest of his contract and pay £5-6 million towards his wage bill
You’re assuming 5-6 million isn’t a lot of money for a semi-retired individual.
Walt “”””you can tell how good because CG is desperately waiting for an excuse to have a pop at him.”””” Tierney has played well in a back 5. Granted. I Guarantee when he reverts back to his proper left back’s position and tries to play like Robertson of Liverpool does – he will get injured again. Nice demeanour , Great professional , Immensely likeable , British, But still an Injury prone crock for me. Probably that’s why he has only played 15 games is his 15 months since he has been here. ( and only and a few of them… Read more »
If Captain Tom can raise £30 + million for NHS surely it should be possible for
Turkey [including 500,000 people of Turkish origin living in UK] to raise £5-6
Million so that he can move to a club in that country.
Emirates
I reckon you’d actually have an easier time raising the £5 – £6 million through Arsenal fans happy to see the back of him.
Marc
You could be right!!
” But still an Injury prone crock for me.”
And this is based on what.. Since he’s been at arsenal or when you were following him at celtic
“There has been a very interesting development in the never-ending Mesut Ozil saga, as a picture has been posted on Twitter of Arsenal’s very expensive German midfielder at a barbecue or party with the Turkish manager Okan Buruk, who this season guided İstanbul Başakşehir to their very first Super Lig title in his very first season as their manager.” If he had any pride he would fuck off and play there, no club in any of the top leagues are going to touch him. If we subsidize his wages they should be able to afford him. Don’t understand how someone… Read more »
Marko
Gabriel, Willian, and either Coutinho or Aouar.
Keeping Lacazette would help too.
Re. Ozil suspect there may be some sort of bonus (loyalty ? lol) involved if he stays until end of contract.I am sure he would want the Club to pay that as well if he accepted to be loaned or let go..
Anyone know if Pierre is ok? Ozil has been mentioned more than 3 times and he hasn’t appeared, is the ancient curse broken, is le grove free at last?
“it should be possible for
Turkey [including 500,000 people of Turkish origin living in UK] to raise £5-6
Million so that he can move to a club in that country.”
What utter nonsense
when did you become such an old fucking retard? You sound like someone’s creepy uncle. ________ Ha ! Cheers, Cutter…..Being called a dumb cunt by Cutter the ultimate judge of dumb cunts on LG is somewhat of an honor. I am Uncle to many , I don’t think I’ m all that creepy. Anyhow, If you don’t feel the futility of things like politics the older you get then your a better man then me. And I do prefer the music of times past.. so I guess that’s pretty standard stuff, to be honest. Anyhow, glad your still around for… Read more »
Juventus will probably make the majority of the squad available for the right price.
Ramsey, Rabiot, Douglas Costa, Higuain.
They’d probably sell Dybala for a Pépé like fee