£100m summer?

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Listen, I’ve had my say on Arsenal this week. The bad news must surely all be out, so I’ll move on and land more positive vibes.

We’ve ditched our scouting department. From what I understand from multiple places, this is a really smart move and we shouldn’t fear it. Our hit rate has been miserable for years and we’ve wasted a lot of money.

If Edu says he wants to move to a Michael-Edwards-Liverpool-style of data intelligence, then let’s see if he does it. Nothing he’s done at Arsenal so far suggests that’s what he’s about, so the onus is on him to make the right promotions, bring in the best talent, and move beyond CHECK DIS GUY e-mails from Kia for his transfer inspiration.

With regards to the layoffs, it sounds like they went right at the areas of business that are, well, pretty redundant for the foreseeable. Sales, admin, and premium partnerships. I’d have had them on commission for selling our best players for ‘very good price’ to the highest bidder this summer, but it is what it is, Arsenal wants to be a cost-conscious business in a pandemic, so there we are.

What all the bad news won’t change is that the manager we have at the club is the real deal. The players finally have someone in charge that commands respect, the training ground is buzzing again, and there is a very clear and ambitious vision Arteta is trying to unlock.

So what next?

Well, summer is about to start. Let’s walk through the smoke and see if we can identify where the fires🔥 are at.

Auuuuuuba

Our BEST player is apparently nearing a 3 year £250k a week deal to stay at Arsenal. He’s happy, the elders are happy, the deal is close. This would be huge news and a testament to the coach that he’s managed to convince a man in his absolute prime that 8th place Arsenal is the destination for him. Auba has been committed, he’s developed his game, and his leadership has been all about setting an example for others. What a deal that’d be.

One of his stipulations is that he wants to see that Pam in accounts safe in her job… along with some big money spent on this squad. Some papers are saying the club is looking to drop £100m… if we can shift on talent.

QUESTION: How long does the club wait on the deal? What happens if he says no?

Ainsley

One of the players who has been put up for sale is Ainsley. The versatile midfielder turned right-back has been told if the big money comes in for him this summer, he’ll be moved on. The caveat is that Mikel doesn’t want to see him go. Bit of a weird caveat. One thing is for sure, we’re stocked down the right and no one is buying Soares out of his freshly minted 4-year deal. A £30m fee is being mooted, which seems quite high given the moment. I don’t fully understand the thinking here, I think the player has been excellent when called upon, he seems to pick up Arteta’s instructions quicker than most, and he’s executed plans to the T at the highest level. Maybe we’ve pumped his value? Maybe the player wants to be the name ALWAYS on the teamsheet? Seems an odd one, but if that’s what the management brain trust wants, then there we are.

Torreira

I read a tweet where someone said ‘I feel like Torreira has been talking about leaving since joining’, and I agree.

“Today I need to think about my future very well. I have a contract with the club and I have to respect it, obviously if I have to leave it will be for the best. We have to be calm and wait”

Look, this is what happens when you bring in the right profile of player and pay them market rate. LT had some promise… it didn’t work out, so we’ll sell him back to the country he came from at a similar price point. Torreira looked like he made sense, aggressive, good on the ball, with sharp technical skills. The problem has been that he just isn’t at the right level physically for the Premier League. If we can get a deal from Milan (YO IVAN) or Torino (his old coach now there), then everyone would be happy.

Hector

There are also a lot of rumours doing the rounds that the socially conscious right-back wants to lay down roots (geddit) in another league. He’s been with us for 9 or so years, I’m not sure he ever recovered physically or mentally from that injury so it might be time to try another catwalk. He is a good player, he’s young, and he’d fetch a pretty decent fee.

… I’d have to find another muse, but it’s fine, I’ll be ok.

CENTRAL DEFENDERS

Look, it’s obvious we need to shift on some of the centre backs, especially if we’re bringing in Gabriel. Sokratis is on a big salary, so he might have to be offered a way out of his deal in the same way Mikhi was. No one is going to him with £90k a week and a fee. Rob Holding would be perfect for a sale. He’s currently on his holidays with Jenks. I think he’d do well in the Premier League, he’d fit perfectly in a setup that didn’t require too much passing under pressure, like, maybe Burnley? We also have to exit Kola. He’s on a big contract because we bosman-d him a few years back, but he just hasn’t hit the mark, he’s not up to the mental rigours of the game, and his defending is really, really poor. There could at least be a fee there.

THE YOUNG GUNS

I think we’ll see some movement with the young players for sure this summer. I have no doubt that Matteo will find a new home, absolute LOLz from the back of the room that BIG UNAI is sniffing around for a loan deal, not sure that’s what the Frenchman had in mind. We really need to max out the fee for Matteo or get a major swap involved. Lyon beat Juve last night, they are back to the big time, we know they are interested, so maybe something can be done there with Aouar? We know that Balogun will be moved on for a fee of £8m, I’m having GnabryMalenJeffBennacerHOTsweats over that potential exit. Talking of Bennacer, he’s on his holidays with Reiss Nelson. Another player I expect to fetch a good fee this summer.

ALEX LACAZETTE

‘There ain’t room in this town for the two of us’ is what Auba apparently said when Edu told him the money for his new deal was coming from selling Lacazette. It’s apparent the French striker maybe doesn’t quite fit what we need in our forward line next season. He’s apparently drawn to Juventus. He’s a top goal scorer, he has a great attitude, and he’s a big name. We’ll either need to max out the fee there or make the swap count hard. We’ll also need to find a replacement, we can’t be heading into the next season relying on just Auba and Eddie.

SWOPPORTUNITIES

This summer is likely to be nuts. Stretched clubs trying to save money and face. Rich clubs trying to pick off the weaklings. There will be opportunities that pop up that could surprise. Mesut Ozil, our contractually obliged rock, might not fancy spending a year in Turkey doing nothing, hardly good for the profile. Someone might make a sexy offer for one of the players we thought unmovable (Granit/Mustafi/Leno). There are many things that could unexpectedly happen and I think we have to be open to them.

THE GOAL

We have to come out of the summer with a squad that is shaped to the vision of the manager. We need technically proficient players. That doesn’t simply mean being good on the ball, it means having the intelligence to absorb and execute complex ideas. We need to have a set of players up the physical challenges of the league. The right size, explosive pace, the ability to go 3 games a week without injury or loss of form. The major difference between ok players and the elite is the lack of mistakes. Pep always says that Garcia, who wants Barca, doesn’t make mistakes. Our Didier-Drogba-like-nightmare last year wasn’t a player, it was ‘UNFORCED ERROR.’ We need to change that up. We also need to bring in players that have the right mentality so when things inevitably go off the rails, we don’t have lower back pain issues for big away days.

We also need to start buying with long-term value in mind. Willian should be the exception, not the rule. If we’re a cost-conscious club, then we need to focus on players that have value if they don’t work out. We should look for opportunities in the market, like Gabriel and Saliba. That applies to the other end of the scale as well because we bought Pepe at 24 years old, but we spent so much on him, it’s very, very unlikely we’ll ever recoup that.

One last thing on the vision of Edu now focusing on data and analytics. We had a bit of a debate about it in the comments yesterday, some saying that it was logical that the Brazilian focused on restructuring the youth setup in his first year, over the scouting. I can’t for the life of me unpack those mental gymnastics. Firstly, you can do more than one thing at a time. Secondly, the youth setup, for all its failings, has produced Saka, Eddie, Willock, ESR, Balogun, Tyreece, and Smith.

The burning hot mess at Arsenal was surely our transfer approach? Why would you wait until year two to implement data and analytics? Because at best, if you are starting from scratch, it’s going to be at least another year before you see the fruits of a new centralised approach? Unless there is some tech partnership I’m unaware of? I mean, look, there is obviously a lot that I am unaware of, I’m just asking why you’d wait an entire year to decide all those people you’ve been working with are shite and that the approach was backwards. Surely the red flag was having to sign David Luiz to replace Laurent Koscielny when the club had a 3-month headstart? It seems like the corporate version of starting a job at Blockbuster Video and focusing your first year on a logo redesign versus addressing the Netflix issue.

Regardless, it’s done. Let’s see who Edu brings in or promotes and what sort remit they are given. I am more than game to see us try and behave like Liverpool and I’m glad that people at Arsenal think this move is a good one IF Edu is capable of hiring the right people.

Right, on that note, fuck off, see you in the virtual bar. xx

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  1. Mark S

    That’s what I get for doing DIY projects around my house instead of refreshing LeGrove incessantly! 😜 Have a good weekend LeGrovers!

  2. Dissenter

    Excellent post Don Pedro.
    I’m glad you left out all the bits that stir up controversy.
    What’s done is done, let’s move on wit the times and give Raul/Edu to work their magic.

  3. Rich

    I’d happily sell Bellerin, providing we signed Max Aarons as a replacement.

    I’d happily sell Leno for £35-40mill, get a cheaper replacement, and put the change into an attacking midfielder.

    Also wouldn’t be against shifting Lacazette, I like him, but £35mill would be good business.

    Would be gutted if we sold Niles, and I think we’d be kicking ourselves in 24 months if we sold Nelson.

  4. Marc

    Much better piece Pedro

    It does get a little bit “hardwork” listening to you moan and bitch all the time – even if I appreciate that you do have the best interests of the club at heart.

    Looks like the revolution won!

  5. Mark S

    I was thinking the other day about how I’d be sad to see AMN or Laca leave, and then I remembered that we finished 8th…and if it wasn’t for last weekend’s FA Cup win we wouldn’t have European football to look forward to next season (all be it the Europa League). We need to move this squad forward, and that means “some favorites” are going to have to be moved.

    One other thing, the Anelka Netflix documentary is amazing. I started following football seriously the year he went to Real Madrid. I had heard about his time at Arsenal, however I never witnessed it. What a brilliant/maddening talent that man was throughout his career. The one thing I kept thinking about is that if he doesn’t leave for Real Madrid…Thierry doesn’t become the club legend that he did. Will we say the same about some player this summer? If “X” hadn’t left, “Y” wouldn’t have become the player he is now… Time will tell.

  6. Dissenter

    Marc
    The club appears to have made a strategic shift away from the last with how we do our transfers. Whatever they are doing isn’t reducing their capacity for bold transfers.
    Whatever one thinks if Edu/Raul, scared or small isn’t part of it.

  7. Marc

    Dissenter

    “Whatever one thinks if Edu/Raul, scared or small isn’t part of it.”

    Never said anything to suggest that. Last summer was the best TW in ages and if we get the players we’re being linked to – Gabriel, Coutinho, Willian, Partey and bring Ceballos back in the circumstances this one will be even better.

    Obviously we need to shift on some players but I’m cautiously optimistic.

  8. Chris

    Cheers for the info Mark S. I had no idea there was a documentary on Anelka. Should make for an interesting watch.

    I still recall how he left the club, a lot of fans were not pleased with his transfer seeking behaviour. At the charity shield that year I remember seeing a banner saying “Lazio? Madrid? Where is he going? Who gives a F**K”

  9. Batistuta

    Re Poch and Juventus from the last post

    He’d either have to recruit 6/7 new players or massively adjust his high tempo style of football, can’t have Matuidi and Bernadeschi and co go at the ridiculously high tempo he likes lol he’d break Douglas Costa and co into shreds and will not have anyone else fit over a long period of time.

    Allegri was such a disaster hire from the scratch, was never going to work and they should have backed Allegri better than they did before he left. They also need to totally revamp that midfield, it’s such a chore to watch and only Bentaccur I’d sniff at from there. Also time to do away with Douglas Costa and Cuadrado really too.

  10. Marc

    Chris

    The Anelka money bought us Henry and paid for the upgrade to the training ground. For Arsenal it worked out very well – I think Anelka effectively threw his career away – he could have gone down as one of the all time greats.

  11. Big Dave

    I posted earlier, is there any doubt about Gabriel Magalhaes? Sounds are that it isn’t cut and dried and Utd are still in the race.

    Anyone know if this is just noise? Northern noise – mostly.

  12. Marko

    We’ve ditched our scouting department. From what I understand from multiple places, this is a really smart move and we shouldn’t fear it.

    Dr Jekyll.

    so the onus is on him to make the right promotions, bring in the best talent, and move beyond CHECK DIS GUY e-mails from Kia for his transfer inspiration.

    Back to Mr Hyde in the next paragraph.

  13. Dissenter

    Batistuta
    Sari is the reason why I wrongly predicted that Juve wouldn’t win Serie A.
    It sill gives me headaches just remembering that he win his first trophy at our expense in Baku.

  14. Big Dave

    Totally agree about Juvé, the squad is set up for a slow league and is likely to fall apart with heavy pressing. Far too much reliance on very talented but old players. There is no way they cannot expect their players to succeed in a heavy pressing game; there would be corpses dotted all around the Allianz Stadium.

  15. Batistuta

    Dissenter

    Sarri was such a horrible horrible hire but knew they’d have just enough to go over the line in Serie A really. It’s in Europe they were bound to get found out.

    They scored what 8 champions league goals and Ronaldo scored 7.

    Ramsey was a waste if money and they should have upgraded on Higuain too and never brought back Buffon out of sentiment.

  16. Chris

    Marc

    I agree absolutely, we ended up bringing in a player of at least equal talent with a more stable temperament. And as you say, the training ground was finished in time for the 99 season and was the finest in the country at that stage.

    I am eager to watch the documentary and get more from Anelka’s side of what happened when he left. His career is a fascinating illustration of a richly talented nomadic player whose variety of clubs in terms of prestige and location is vast.

  17. Marko

    That the poch love in still exists on le grove to this day is honestly nauseating. Lad is good don’t get me wrong but it’s weird how he’s viewd on an Arsenal blog honestly. Needs off that pedestal. Him moving to Juve sounds like the perfect chance for him to win a trophy finally. He won’t get an easier way to do it.

  18. Marc

    Marko

    Well that’s it isn’t it. If the Poooooooooooch can’t win at Juve it was all hype, if he kicks on and goes on to be successful from here on it’s still funny because it shows the Spuddies are bottlers no matter who’s in charge.

  19. Mark S

    Chris-The documentary definitely portrays him as more of a victim/misunderstood individual. Vieira, Thierry, Petit, Pires, Gallas, and Wenger all feature in it. They all touch on his brilliance, yet also they touch on his misguidance/poor decision making. Anelka owns up to most of his mistakes. The other thing you remember is that France had a crazy amount of talent in the late 90s/early 2000s. It also made me remember that Diaby went to the 2010 World Cup!

  20. Champagne Charlie

    Lille has a friendly today and Gabriel never played, his short number was also worn by an academy player. These are the crumbs Arsenal fans live for

  21. Marko

    Charlie it looks like it’s on. 18 million plus add ons I read would be an excellent bit of business. Honestly though has to be said now is the time to buy. Next summer is likely to see prices get back to normal. Perfect time to snap up an Aouar

  22. Markymark

    “ We’ve ditched our scouting department. From what I understand from multiple places, this is a really smart move and we shouldn’t fear it. Our hit rate has been miserable for years and we’ve wasted a lot of money.”
    It may have been our very own Arteta who has first hand compared the two set-ups of City and Arsenal and told the Execs the Scouts are bloody awful.

  23. Marc

    Easy double M – Pedro’s struggling enough as it is.

    Next thing you’ll be saying Mislintat is a massive fraud who took all the credit for others hard work.

  24. Captain Tierney

    Un‘Show me where I did’Here
    ‘I never said they were better but I think both bring an energy that Coutinho of 2020 would not.’Its as if Coutinho has had a big drop off. He had 1 bad year at Barca which really wasnt that bad.As for energy levels , I wont be worrying about that for a player who was starting week in week out for Klopp.Coutinho is no makeweight.If he comes here or goes to Chelsea or Spuds or any team in the world not named Madrid , Psg , Juve or Bayern he is going to be the centerpiece of the team. The player you make your team adjust to.And as for Esr I dont think he will become a deep lying playmaker a la Gundogan in the future. I believe he is very close to Kdb in his style of play and thats the type of player he should mould himself into.

  25. Captain Tierney

    Un

    ‘Show me where I did’
    Here
    ‘I never said they were better but I think both bring an energy that Coutinho of 2020 would not.’

    Its as if Coutinho has had a big drop off. He had 1 bad year at Barca which really wasnt that bad.

    As for energy levels , I wont be worrying about that for a player who was starting week in week out for Klopp.

    Coutinho is no makeweight.If he comes here or goes to Chelsea or Spuds or any team in the world not named Madrid , Psg , Juve or Bayern he is going to be the centerpiece of the team. The player you make your team adjust to.

    And as for Esr I dont think he will become a deep lying playmaker a la Gundogan in the future. I believe he is very close to Kdb in his style of play and thats the type of player he should mould himself into.

    Duh

  26. GillespieRoadNoMore

    It seems like the corporate version of starting a job at Blockbuster Video and focusing your first year on a logo redesign versus addressing the Netflix issue.

    Some of your analogies are brutal but spot on, keep sipping the Peroni Pedro

  27. Marc

    Wasi

    Looks like the revolution was triumphant but remember Kim Dumb Pedro has only been beaten back he hasn’t been vanquished.

    Remember the price of football truth is eternal vigilance.

  28. Big Dave

    Good call Marko. Hope you’re right.

    Charlie Watts is less hopeful, but i think he’s using the same primary sources.

  29. David Smith

    Great stuff Pedro. Must admit, I have wondered about some of our scouting for a while. Yes, some good even great players have been bought in by them, but seems a while back. Wish them the best, and the rest of the 55, but I am sure at least some of them will be ok, especially a scout with Dealings with Hector B, Cazorla and Cesc on their cv
    Guess we just got to see what they do with Edu
    Shame about AMN if he does go though

  30. Marc

    sal

    I assume you mean the Juve job?

    If so is it because he’s too good for them or because outside of the PL he’s seen as always the bridesmaid.

  31. andy1886

    Don’t mind a Brazilian flavour but full on Brazil? No thanks, I’d like the club to hold on to our traditions at least in part. Remember Santos, Denilson, Baptista, Wellington?

  32. Marc

    Un

    Hang on I know you’re trying to give up smoking but drinking as well?

    If it’s the misses kick her out she’s trying to kill you. You won’t live longer, it’ll just feel like it.

  33. Marko

    No thanks, I’d like the club to hold on to our traditions at least in part.

    Arsenal values am I right. One of these days someone will have to explain to me what exactly those values are.

  34. Freddie Ljungberg

    Could be many reasons why Edu started with the youth scouting setup first. Most logical is that Per had done most of the groundwork there and Edu just had to implement it. Senior set up has been far more chaotic in the last 2 years.
    Gazidis, Sven, Emery all leaving and probably no real vision in place before he landed so had to start from scratch with evaluations.

    Could also be a case of not being able/unwilling to terminate contracts in the middle of the season.

    Not everything is a conspiracy or a sign of incompetence.

  35. CG

    UN

    “””Literally worst Brazil side for generations””””

    Well said.
    Truth off course Hurts

    Willian and Coutinho….
    Give me a break….
    X2 Brazilian ageing mercenaries
    (Just what we dont need.)

    ESR,AMN and Nelson are as talented, MORE Hungry, homegrown, British and ready to step up.

    The talent is in the UK
    Dunk, Rice, Zaha, Bellingham,Cresswell, Grealish etc.

    (And across the English Channel in France)

    Only a club , that has seriously lost it way- would go down this Brazilian route.

    Fascinating to read that Klopp will attempt to build a team full of Livepudlians.

    That’s a vision.
    We have got Edu……..hahaha.

  36. Marc

    “No thanks, I’d like the club to hold on to our traditions at least in part.”

    Weren’t people saying that when we were bringing in players from the continent?

  37. Receding Hairline

    Poch getting ignored for Pirlo..lol

    He is still the Messiah for some here though. Now that’s Juventus along with Bayern that have said no thanks. I was led to believe on here they will be fist fights for his signature. Maybe it’s time he too wakes up to reality and picks a modest project.

  38. Marc

    “I can’t drink without smoking.
    This must be what I was always like when I was a teenager.
    I’ve turned into Marko
    Albeit with some brains and a better accent”

    Well the accent is down to personal taste – the brains if it makes you feel better!

  39. Champagne Charlie

    “Literally worst Brazil side for generations“

    1) we’re not signing the Brazil squad
    2) the Brazil squad competes for the Prem
    3) Gabriel is 22, he’s not even had his generation…much like Martinelli who is OK last time I checked?

    Just make your boring point about not liking Willian and Coutinho. Leave the fluff at the door.

  40. Marko

    Most logical is that Per had done most of the groundwork there and Edu just had to implement it.

    I would say the most logical would be that it was easier to begin and probably the easier to address beginning/mid season and also the culling of say scouts is probably a lot easier to do at the end of a season when there’s no football and no scouting going on. That’s just me though I think it’s easier to sack a scout when he’s doing nothing than when he’s getting a dossier done up on someone

  41. Freddie Ljungberg

    Marko

    Yeah, I did have that as the second scenario.

    Forgot scenario number 3 where it was on orders from Kia to match his schedule for world domination. I’m sure Pedro will cover that in more detail soon though.

  42. Marc

    Freddie

    For all the stuff people get sin binned on here for I’ve never known someone get away with wanting the team to lose, slagging off the fans, the manager (2 of them now), nearly all the players, wanting a another team to get promoted so he can support them instead, wanting Arsenal to get relegated.

    And that’s off the top of my head. It is most odd.

  43. Freddie Ljungberg

    Mark

    Although Per was brought in to reshape the youth set up after many reports that it was a mess so I’m guessing it was a mix of both. Don’t think Edu would have had all the info necessary to make sweeping changes 3 months into the job without some groundwork being laid.

  44. Nelson

    I read that Edu released a lot of scouts but keeps the scouts in Brazil. You can see his priority in the short term.

    I think that judging just from data and video are not safe. You need a scout to watch the player’s game. Those video highlight doesn’t show a player’s weakness

  45. Pedro

    Freddie, if someone had done the groundwork, then you wouldn’t spend a year working on it.

    Sal, that’s a sexy dugout they have over there… unreal that Juve hired a young inexperienced coach, I thought big teams didn’t do that?

    Lololoolol

  46. Freddie Ljungberg

    Pedro

    Thanks. That was exactly my point. That’s probably why he started on the youth set up where Per was brought in to shape things up.

  47. shad

    Meanwhile , I’ all for moving on a good lot. AMN, Nelson, Holding, Kola, Mustafi (hard owing to injury), Papa, Bellerin and probably one of the keepers will have to leave (gulp!).

    Let’s get the full Brazilian wax job innit and get that league.

  48. Marko

    I read that Edu released a lot of scouts but keeps the scouts in Brazil. You can see his priority in the short term.

    South American scouts not just Brazil. But honestly good there’s absolutely incredible talent coming out of that region and for years we were picking up the likes of Wellington Silva, Joel Campbell and Samuel Galindo while the likes of Ajax, Shakthar, Benfica and Atletico were picking up the brightest and selling them for mammoth fees. We were left behind and hopefully that’s being addressed

  49. andy1886

    “Arsenal values am I right”

    Nope, I just don’t want the club to turn into some kind of ‘Brazilian soccer’ version of the Harlem Globe Trotters.

    We used to be able to identify with at least some of the playing squad, less so in modern times but for me it’s a shame if the AMN’s and Reiss Nelson’s are replaced by a bunch of middling players that have no affiliation or feeling for the club.

  50. Champagne Charlie

    “It’s boring to not like 2 old Brazilians who were mainstays of the worst Brazilian side in our lifetime?”

    Yes. Can be the worst Brazil side ever if you like, still competes for the Premier League title.

    Coutinho and Willian don’t add quality to our squad? Hahaha

  51. Marko

    He says worst Brazilian side he’s met with facts that they’re ranked 3rd in the world and he responds with yeah big deal. You know you’re fighting a losing battle with that kind of debate.

  52. Big Dave

    Well good to hear there’s confidence here about Gabriel Magalhaes. Thanks for the boost, CC, China and Marko.

    Years of drab and painful tranfer windows tend to squeeze any confidence out.

  53. Captain Tierney

    ‘Looks like the revolution was triumphant but remember Kim Dumb Pedro has only been beaten back he hasn’t been vanquished.’

    There is still a small island to be conquered my friend. Pedro has lost Eduland but he still thinks he cam hold fort Raul.
    😂

    Freddie
    Why does your friend need an assasin in South Africa ?

  54. Marko

    Nope, I just don’t want the club to turn into some kind of ‘Brazilian soccer’ version of the Harlem Globe Trotters.

    You mean successful? Playing attractive football? Yeah me neither

    but for me it’s a shame if the AMN’s and Reiss Nelson’s are replaced by a bunch of middling players that have no affiliation or feeling for the club.

    You do realize that AMN wants to go right. But yeah shame. Some of our best players have had no prior affiliation with the club and you can’t develop a feeling if you’re not here but sure.

  55. Marc

    Wasi

    I’m trying to figure out who Pedro’s hates the most out of us.

    To seal the deal I might promote him from Kim Dumb Pedro to Kim Trump Pedro.

    On the other hand maybe a step to far!

  56. Captain Tierney

    Liverpool have 3 Brazilian starters.
    For those who are worrying Brazilians will destroy our club.

  57. CG

    PedRo

    “”””unreal that Juve hired a young inexperienced coach, I thought big teams didn’t do that?””””

    (Good observation )

    What an absolute disgrace Tubby never gave Arteta the gig in the first place.

    Arteta has done a truly excellent job clearing up the Clowns mess.

    Just hope Raul/Edu dont lead Arteta into another horror show with these horrendous mercenary signings they have lined up.

  58. Big Dave

    Marko, the penny dropped with Wenger about the value of the South American Market with the “hunger” of players from the region- a year or so before he left.

    Better kate than ever.

  59. Champagne Charlie

    Un

    You’re talking shit based on a game back in 2014, don’t dare claim anything I say nonsense with that in mind.

    Like I say, boring. Usual St. Georges flag mentality at play here talking broad stroke bollocks relating to nationalism.

  60. Marko

    England have been ranked 2nd in the world and bombed out at the finals
    Ranking means dick if you aren’t winning comps

    Wait I thought England were supposed to be good now with great talent coming through. But according to you it means dick if you ain’t winning competitions and as we know England haven’t won fuck all since the 60’s. Worst England side ever?

    Also England’s highest rank has been 3rd and it was in 2012.

  61. CG

    Andy

    “””””We used to be able to identify with at least some of the playing squad, less so in modern times but for me it’s a shame if the AMN’s and Reiss Nelson’s are replaced by a bunch of middling players that have no affiliation or feeling for the club.”””

    Well said.

    Just look at Martinez.
    Arguably the best goalkeeper in world soccer…..
    Never heard of him , 3 months ago.
    (Our Wenger did always talk about late bloomers.)

    Dittio AMN (possibly Nelson)

  62. Marc

    “Just look at Martinez.
    Arguably the best goalkeeper in world soccer…..”

    Clearly COVID is affecting the supply of anti psychotic drugs to mental institutions in South Africa.

  63. Marko

    Forget the previous 10 years Martinez has managed to become the best goalkeeper in the world inside the last two months. That’s an amazing feat. Should be able to get a world record fee this summer for him so

  64. Freddie Ljungberg

    Marc

    Does it affect the free travel of assassins there though? That’s what I want to know.

    Asking for a friend of course.

  65. Pierre

    Marc
    “For all the stuff people get sin binned on here for I’ve never known someone get away with wanting the team to lose, slagging off the fans, the manager (2 of them now), nearly all the players, wanting a another team to get promoted so he can support them instead, wanting Arsenal to get relegated.”

    Is that Graham you are talking about , in fact it’s probably 90% of Legrove ,formerly known as the WOBS.

    I didn’t hear you making a fuss when the Wenger obsessives were slagging off the manager and team on a daily basis..

  66. TR7

    Zidane, Arteta, Lampard, Ole, Gatusso, Inzaghi and now Pirlo….kind of a bandwagon most clubs are hopping on to. Apprently Xavi is also being lined up for Barca job. Becoming more and more difficult for other established managers to get a job now. Pirlo was appointed U23 coach just 4 days ago, so technically he is even more of a rookie than Arteta.

  67. MidwestGun

    Very good post today Peds… Enjoyed reading it.

    I was getting worried about you. You were starting to sound like CG. Aka the homeless dude standing on the corner underneath the bridge with the carboard sign around his neck saying the End is Near in Green Crayon.

    If you get too close to him he is muttering Raul, Raul, Raul over and over. Whilst foaming at the mouth about things that happened 20 yrs ago. Not a good look.

    For me if your looking for a source of lack of communication and PR deafness.. then look no further then Silent Stan. Pretty sure that would have been the architect of salary cuts and Redundancies. The leadership team then was left to try and explain it. Stan doesn’t care about bad PR.. or informing the fans of future plans, anyone who lived near St Louis knows this. They were selling season tickets and vendor stalls in the Rams stadium right up until he said, Oh by the way the team is in LA now. My bad.

  68. Champagne Charlie

    “You just seem to get all flustered every time a Brazilian is linked which means a fine Charlie“

    Pretty much typifies your nonsense.

    I’m happy to see genuine talent and ability get heavily linked in areas we need. Willian and Coutinho are prem proven in case you missed it.

    Gabriel isn’t exciting because of his passport, but because he’s highly regarded in Europe and a fantastic profile for what we need.

    All this stuff is missed by you because you’re busy making garbage nationalist remarks, it’s actually pretty pathetic.

  69. Freddie Ljungberg

    “I was getting worried about you. You were starting to sound like CG. Aka the homeless dude standing on the corner underneath the bridge with the carboard sign around his neck saying the End is Near in Green Crayon.

    If you get too close to him he is muttering Raul, Raul, Raul over and over. Whilst foaming at the mouth about things that happened 20 yrs ago. Not a good look.”

    It’s funny because it’s true.

  70. Pierre

    Has champagne Charlie turned into Receding Hairline..

    I think the lockdown has affected him in a strange sort of way.

  71. Marko

    TR7 to be fair Juve can easily take the risk on Pirlo given the ease with which they win their domestic league. We were floundering in 8th and previously 7th when job opportunities opened up for Mikel. Not really the same scenarios but it’s worked out in the end

  72. Marc

    Pierre

    Criticism of players when they play poorly is part of being a fan. Criticising a manager for being too predictable or not fixing obvious issues in the team is one thing but wanting them to lose? Talking about supporting another team? (And not in a humorous way like Fever Pitch).

    Come on – we’ve disagreed about things but neither of us have ever wanted Arsenal to lose a match and I can’t imagine you ever being anything other than a Gooner, even if you are a miserable old sod of a Gooner.

  73. Marko

    Don I’m fully aware that the Irish national team is shite. Do you understand that the English national team is also shite? A different shade though obviously

  74. MidwestGun

    What an absolute disgrace Tubby never gave Arteta the gig in the first place.
    ___
    Gazidas gave Emery his job. Raul Sacked him.

  75. Champagne Charlie

    Pierre

    Is that one of them snide remarks about posters you’re forever accusing others of?

    Just curious..

  76. Marc

    Freddie

    “Does it affect the free travel of assassins there though? That’s what I want to know.”

    Easy you just use different passports on the way in and out. You’ve never seen or read Day of the Jackal?

  77. Marko

    Literally the only two people who regularly bring up Wenger are CG and Pierre and one of them calls people Wenger obsessives. It’s sad. For their sake I really hope he gets another managerial job soon cause their testes are just filling up

  78. Freddie Ljungberg

    Marc

    I’ve read it ages ago but there was no pandemic then if I remember correctly. Just want to make sure it’s not a botched job.

    For my friend of course.

  79. NJ Gooner

    Brazil is so bad? Really?

    If we heavily stocked Arsenal with members of the current Brazilian team, then where do you think we’d end up in the premier league?

    Serious question. Pick half-a-dozen of their best team plus Auba, Saliba, Tierney and a few others. My guess is top four.

  80. salparadisenyc

    I thought big teams didn’t do that?

    Pedro

    Huge loool, after listening to that bullshit for a year and half.

    Unproven comes in at secures a cup for Arsenal, then Juve go and hire a club legend greener.

    The trend is in motion.

  81. TR7

    Marko

    Juventus have two primary agendas – Contending for the CL and holding on to Ronaldo. Arteta has time on his hands in the sense he was brought in to build something special over a period of time. Pirlo on the other hand will have to hit the ground running. Not sure whether it is a smart choice by Juventus.

  82. Marc

    Freddie

    I’d be more worried about “your friend” going for a head shot and it going straight through and doing no damage if I were you.

  83. MAXCAT

    AMN, Torreria, Guendo…Like all three players.
    AMN should have left last summer, this is his drop dead summer, no way should he spend another year basically being a back up for positions he does not really want to play. At age 22, it is time to fly the coop.
    Torreria: Like him, his attitude and hustle. However he just grabs his left ankle too much for my liking. might be a chronic injury already there or coming on. The prem might be a bit too much and might be better off in one of the slower leagues.
    Guendo: Mad Kid..like his drive, was very positive when he first arrived but seems to be unhappy and definitely plateauing. Let him go if that is what he wants and wish him the best.
    If we can score approx 60 mill for the three, that is not bad.
    Letting three good young players go, would mean that we definitely have to close the deal for a player like Partey, preferable the man himself. Heard about the CB from Lille, Willian and another young AMF…..midfield definitely has to be fixed.
    For me that would be an acceptable transfer season.

  84. Marc

    “. I do not accept that england are shite
    Not when we have Kane, Sterling, TAA, Henderson, Foden, Maguire, Sancho, Maddison, Chilwell, Grealish and Greenwood”

    So that’s another embarrassment on the way next summer!

  85. MidwestGun

    Pirlo is still rocking the Beard I wish I could grow.. all I know.. I’m rocking the pale imitation of that.. More Clint Eastwood then Pirlo. .

    No idea if he will be a good manager but in a pinch, I bet he could still take freekicks.

  86. salparadisenyc

    Mid

    How excellent is that, we never got him but great to see the Pirlo going headfirst at the top.

  87. Freddie Ljungberg

    “I’d be more worried about “your friend” going for a head shot and it going straight through and doing no damage if I were you.”

    Also funny because it’s true

  88. karim

    Marko

    Caqueret was incorporated into their first team when Tousart left for Hertha Berlin, like 3 months ago and he looks like a seasoned professional already.
    It was his first start ever in the CL and he didn’t look impressed.
    Very promising lad indeed.

  89. Champagne Charlie

    “Don’t move the goal posts you sly fucker
    The comment wasn’t made in reference to the William and Coutinho. It was made in reference to you salivating over any Brazilian linked“

    What Brazilians would that be? Willian, Coutinho, and Gabriel aka the only players I’ve mentioned?

    Goal posts all over the show there.

    “And er yeah, so happy to see genuine talent matey, Pepe is genuine quality and you’ve been pretty disparaging most of the last 12 months whilst lauding Luiz.”

    I was thrilled when we signed Pepe but yes, saying he’s underwhelmed and needs to improve is incredibly disparaging to a 72 mil player that arrived with bags of expectation. You’ve played the ‘David Luiz is your fave’ record numerous times, I’m not even going to bother there again.

  90. salparadisenyc

    Mid

    Went to NYFC just to sit on corner flag and watch him power in the corners what a gift. Walked past my place one day, I nearly ran after him. Told Ahern and he was stalking the hood in search of Pirlo.

  91. Marc

    Un

    Mate when it comes to football England are rubbish, awful, terrible, a national shame. Sterling is the only player we have at the moment who is really top level.

    All the rest over hyped and wouldn’t survive 10 minutes if reffed properly.

  92. MidwestGun

    Hahaha Sal Nice.. I would have flagged him down like a fanboy too. Just wanted to say… I love you Mr. Pirlo. Not a stalker I swear.

  93. MidwestGun

    Anyone got a scoreline prediction for matches today? might have to accidently drop a $20 on a good bet.

  94. Champagne Charlie

    “No mate. You went crazy over Luiz. You were very excited over the lad we were in for in jan even though nobody knew how good he was and you’ve made comments a few times over the past few weeks about us becoming Brazil and your affiliation for their style.“

    The Brazilian Pablo Mari, or Cedric? What elite commentary nonetheless. I could go back and cut/paste comments from when we signed Luiz, I felt it was a smart move after losing Kos the day before – said I’d much rather an Upamecano type but David Luiz will be a technical leader back there despite the fact he’ll have his moments.

    It’s nothing to do with you having a “different” view, it’s the fact you’re making daft remarks like calling a player “old” at 28, like claiming the Brazil side are worst in a generation which somehow devalues any links to players. Different? No, daft? Yes.

  95. andy1886

    Marko, you just don’t get it.

    I want to see at least a few players at the club who understand what AFC is, what it means to the fans. Not just a bunch of mercenaries here to make as much £££££ as possible and then fuck off to a bigger club if one comes along.

    Maybe you can connect with that sort of player who probably doesn’t give a crap, maybe you don’t care if they have no connection with the club other than as an temporary employer, but I couldn’t.

    If that’s all we are, with no real identity, why the f*ck is AFC any different from any other team anywhere on the planet?

    Yeah I’d like us to have a better team, but not by losing our identity. And there’s no guarantee that ‘going full Brazil’ would win jack shit or everyone else would have done that already.

  96. Graham62

    CG

    The title of your next book –

    “How our club seriously lost its way”

    Now that would be a good read.

    I wonder who you would blame.

    I know who you wouldn’t.