Guess who isn’t leaving?

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Newcastle United will NOT be taken over by the bad folk that chop up dissenters.

I absolutely LOVE to see it.

Their fans, the greatest on earth, spent the last 3 months justifying the takeover, completely throwing all ethics to the wind… they were dreaming of Pochettino, MBappe, and spending £300m in a single summer.

Now they have nothing. Another season of Steve Bruce football. The hope that Andy Carroll might sign on for another year.

Good.

After that carry-on, they deserve Mike Ashley, and to have SPORTS DIRECT painted on their stadium.

My worry is that sports washing fund has just moved onto another Premier League club. I hope it’s not Spurs, who are rumoured to be looking for a buyer.

ONTO ARSENAL.

Arsenal inquired as to the availability of Jack Grealish and were told £70m. A silly sum of cash that basically says they don’t want to sell him this summer. I love the player, but we really don’t need to play with fees like that. We’d get better value from a distressed Europe this summer. If City can get Torres for £20m, then we should be looking to match that sort of value.

The Zaha rumours are also hotting up. Palace is not going to be a club with hundreds of millions this summer, but they do need a rebuild, and Zaha could be a good make-weight for them. I think he had the second most take ons in the league last season, and he’s readymade for the league.

If we are in for him, you’d have to wonder about the future of Pepe. I would not be surprised to see him moved on this summer and the fact he came from the Lille factory of talent via some Mendes dealings likely means there will be a club that they could find for him. I’m just not sure we’d get much in the way of recompense.

Interesting to see Lille getting €50m for a player with one solid season in Ligue 1 under his belt. That sort of price level would be obscene in normal times, why would anyone spend that in a depressed market? Even weirder when you consider they finished 7th this year. No Champions League. Notable that the same team were in the market for Pepe last year as well. Still, one thing is not in doubt, Luis Campos is a god of footballing talent.

Granit Xhaka had some nice things to say about the man who convinced him to stay in December.

“He convinced me to stay with Arsenal,”

“We had a very good conversation shortly after his appointment, and I can really only say positive things about him. He is a young, very meticulous trainer who gives more than 100% in every training session, who optimally prepares us for every single game.

“I have rarely experienced this. He is really a great guy as a coach, but also as a person and I have already learned a lot from him during the time he is with us. Many details that have made me even better.

“So it’s really a pleasure to be able to play under him.”

It’ll be interesting to see if he stays beyond this summer, I suspect he will.

Mesut Ozil’s agent has once again said his client won’t leave this summer. Super odd that the German doesn’t seem to care about football or playing at all. I hope Arsenal cut a deal and he leaves on a free. We cannot have his shadow lurking over the club for another season, it’s too disruptive.

FA Cup news has been hard to come by, so I guess we’ll save the chat for tomorrow after some prezzers drop and we get a bit of news.

I’m starting to get excited, I hope you are too.

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  1. DigitalBob

    Wasi – I’d love it to happen but it looks like hes going to Everton. Besides we need to get rid of the dross at the back first. After this weekend we’ll see a lot of movement. Some of us will be happy and some clearly will not.

  2. Leedsgunner

    Trap

    Our scouting department has fallen behind the others, and we rely too much on contacts and super agents to find players and finalise on players contracts… despite having our own in-house analytics department… what’s that about?

    If it was up to me I would let Raul go.

    Set clear KPIs for Edu and invite Overmars to head up our football operations. For good measure I would also invite Dennis back to head up our scouting department and invite him to implement the best practices at the Ajax academy working with Per to get this done… so we can have the best youth and scouting department in the EPL.

    Atalanta,Udinese, BvB all have excellent youth development, discovery and scouting programs which provide an excellent income stream for the first team to use when they sell young talents, if they don’t make the first team… why don’t we?

    We already are a selling club, but we don’t do that very well. We need to change that.

    Wilshere, the Jeff, Malvidi, Bennacer, Gnabry, they should have provided a good transfer sum but all left the club for virtually nothing… only to blossom elsewhere why is that?

    We need to stop babbling on about being a big club and just get on acting like one.

  3. Marko

    Our scouting department has fallen behind the others, and we rely too much on contacts and super agents to find players and finalise on players contracts… despite having our own in-house analytics department… what’s that about?

    None of that is true.

    Atalanta,Udinese, BvB all have excellent youth development, discovery and scouting programs

    Yeah none of them use super agents. In fact Haaland is represented by a computer program who analyzes his best interests when finding out which club to join

  4. Marc

    Leeds

    “Offer to buy the rest of contract off with a no strings attached £1m golden goodbye for full and final settlement…”

    Are are you serious? If yes are you all round thick or just bad at maths?

    You want to sell a player for £5 million who’s on £100k per week and give them a £1 million bonus for leaving.

    Sale value = £5 million
    Payoff £5.2 million plus £1 million = £6.2 million

    So we’d lose £1.2 million each on both Kolas and Sok.

    Thank fuck you’re not involved in running the club.

  5. Valentin

    Salpa,

    Luis Campos and Gerard Lopez are truly horrible people, but you have to admire the talent to spot players, buy them at the right time and sell them at an inflated prices.

    I wish we had an upper management team as clued up as them.

  6. Leedsgunner

    Marko

    Nothing wrong with my maths… just trying to lower our wage bill expeditiously.

    £5m transfer sale price wouldn’t go to the player but to us.

    Even if we say we pay on average player 40 weeks… with a £1m pay off you would still save £3m if you pay them £100k per week. What’s wrong with that?

    At the moment we’re losing millions every year on players who are nowhere good enough or who can’t get on the pitch.

  7. Marko

    Marc at least in his way you wouldn’t have to deal with any super agents.

    By the way we’ll have discuss what counts as a super agent and if normal agents or agencies count as dangerous horrible cunts as well. Because honestly from what I can tell most footballers are represented by mostly an agent or agency with some represented by a family member or friend (they’re more of concern imo) and the occasional lawyer.

  8. Marc

    Marko

    “with some represented by a family member or friend (they’re more of concern imo) and the occasional lawyer.”

    Who operate in the capacity of an agent so does that mean they’re occasional scum or is it once infected contagious forever?

  9. Marko

    I dunno mate. And what makes them scum sucking fuck faces is it the way that they facilitate a transfer? Is it getting an agents fee for the transfer? Is it the car they drive? Or the type of hair gel they use? Who knows

  10. Big Perm

    Seem to have touched a nerve have I Andy?

    Haha the daft cunt trying weasel out of the fact that he said DB wasn’t a number 10.

    It’s nobody else’s fault but your own that you don’t know what a number 10 is and they can differ in styles and positioning.

    It’s ok just go on arsenal.com to tell you what position a player plays.

    The rest of just use our eyes. It’s really that simple.

    I’ll just leave this here you mug

    ‘Denis wasn’t a number 10’

  11. Marc

    Leeds

    Firstly you’re confusing me and Marko. Secondly you’re now moving the goals posts from something you said that was so ridiculously stupid as to almost defy belief.

    Thirdly

    “Even if we say we pay on average player 40 weeks… with a £1m pay off you would still save £3m if you pay them £100k per week. What’s wrong with that?”

    Your maths still don’t work – 40 weeks at £100k per week = £4 million plus a £1 million payoff, so you’re getting £5 million income and paying the player a £5 million lump sum. Fuck knows where the £3 million comes from.

  12. salparadisenyc

    Valentin,

    Precisely why is so comedic to go to battle over Raul and Sven, neither have really pulled up any trees while working at Arsenal, with one eradicating the other pretty quickly in grand scheme.

    Like it or not Raul now has a target on back from recent dealing everyone from Ornstein, Amy Lawerence down to John Cross have published pieces, all born of course on Le Grove and Arseblog.

  13. Marc

    sal

    The journo’s don’t like him because he doesn’t play ball with them. As for Sven vs Sanllehi one summer each.

    Sven = rubbish

    Sanllehi = good

  14. Marko

    Do the journos dislike him? I’ve seen some pieces where they’ve talked about his approach to transfers and his willingness to work with super agents but it has been more or less fence sitting from what I’ve read. We’re no longer notoriously difficult to deal with when it comes to transfers and are able to get deals done easier than we were under Wenger and with regards to super agents I’ve seen wolves mentioned as an example of when getting into bed with a super agent works.

  15. Trap

    Truth is I am under no illusions as to the predicament the club is currently facing it’s not as bad as the media and some people would make it to seem, we had too many scouts besides we all know it’s never been about scouting but the decision making of arsene if not we’d have been a lot better than we are now,over the past 2years now since his departure changes have been occurring not as swift as we hoped for but there indeed have been changes, our new saucy manager has the backing of the club and he for example is said to be really interested in landing philipe coutinho, so I say give him what he wants.
    We are still one of the best academy setups in the league still producing talent’s but we know the first team is a different fry not everyone will make it.
    And on super agents if you want the best then you have to deal with the best it’s as simple as that.

  16. Wasi

    Digital

    I’m kinda confident the club will move on a lot of thr dross this summer.
    And if it came down to it Arsenal vs Everton , a player will always choose Arsenal.

    Just need to get good value from the sales.

    Sell Sokratis for 5-6 mil and if nobody wants to pay his generous 90k a week then chip in with 15-20 k a week for 1 year. The rest will be payed by his new employers.

    Same with Kolasinac. Sell for 10-12 mil. Chip in with 15-20k a week if nobody wants to take on his full wage.

    Elneny’s wages are already low. Just need to find a club willing to take him for a decent fee. I personally think he can be a good enough player for most of the mid-table teams in all of Europe’s top 5 leagues.

    If we are signing Gabriel then maybe Holding will be put on the chopping block too.
    Anything above 15m + Buy back and sell on should be a good deal.

    Amn might go. Similar type of deal to Holding .

    Guendouzi and Torreira can get us a combined 55 mil or more. Or maybe used for swaps.

  17. Marc

    sal

    Both of them headed up a summer window of transfers – Mislintat managed 1 good signing in Leno who is being written off on here by many and a load of players who aren’t wanted and many were older, Sanllehi signed a group of younger players who are highly rated.

    The supposed strengths of Mislintat and the “evil” machinations of Sanllehi were reversed in the two windows and many on here can’t seem to see it.

  18. Leedsgunner

    Marc

    First of all… apologies for getting you confused with Marko.

    If you sell a player for £5m you would be getting them off your wage bill wouldn’t you? Why in our calculations are you still paying them for the year ahead?

  19. Marko

    Exactly Marc. One’s responsible for signing up Sokratis , Litchsteiner and Mhiktaryan while the other is responsible for signing Saliba, Tierney and Martinelli. Even apparent good sellable assets at the time like Guendouzi and Torreira don’t look likely to be nearly as good as Saliba or Martinelli if there ever comes a time where we might have to sell.

  20. Wasi

    Marc

    Heard a source saying , Sokratis and Lichsteiner were Raul signings. Before taking on the job he wanted to at least 2 of his recommendations signed by the club. His recommendations included Banega , Lich , Sok , Malcom , Lingard and Eric Dier.

    Sven in his time here only signed Auba and Leno.
    After leaving he helped club sign Saliba , Tierney , Martinelli and will continue to do so in the future.
    And recent reports also add Ceballos under Sven’s list .

    Who signed Pete is still unknown. We might know by the end of next season.

  21. Marko

    Sven in his time here only signed Auba and Leno.
    After leaving he helped club sign Saliba , Tierney , Martinelli and will continue to do so in the future.

    Holy moly. Just wow

  22. Jamie

    I heard from my sources that Raul recommended Sanogo to Wenger, and Sven recommended Santi. Then they all drank champagne together with Carlos Vela in the street.

  23. Marko

    Sven = good. Raul = bad.

    You get a blowjob from your Mrs it’s because of Sven.

    You stub your toe on a door it’s because of Raul.

    Cure for coronavirus is because of Sven.

    Coronavirus itself is because of Raul.

    Ahhhh it all makes sense

  24. Leedsgunner

    Marc

    Fair enough point.

    However, each transfer will deal with remaining salary differently.

    Often the signing club will agree to at least partially cover that sum in the signing bonus that the player is offered…

  25. Leedsgunner

    Marc

    I might be wrong, I don’t think I said anything about paying their remaining salary in my original point.

    Wishing you all the best.

  26. Marc

    Leeds

    Honestly fuck knows what’s going to happen this summer – hopefully Sanllehi been making plenty of human sacrifices and will manage to pull off a stunning summer both on incomings and outgoings.

  27. Marc

    Leeds

    ““Offer to buy the rest of contract off with a no strings attached £1m golden goodbye for full and final settlement…””

    Not going to get into this any further it’s too hot and I haven’t hot the cold beers in the fridge yet.

  28. Leedsgunner

    Marc

    I can see where the ambiguity lies… fair enough.

    I meant that £1m signing bonus would be given in lieu of the rest of the contract…. rather than in addition to.

    Hope that clarifies the issue.

  29. Valentin

    So according to Marko, Tierney who was the subject of a bid a few years ago under Wenger and Sven was discovered by Raul.

    Saliba who was the target of a bid by Sven at his previous job was also discovered by Raul.

    Martinelli who was discovered by our head scout and who was initially planned for the U23 was also signed by Raul.

    This man is a genius at discovering and signing great cheap players!

    However Raul who has previous history of recruiting past-it players at Barcelona and more recently this season (Surely Sven cannot be blame for David Luiz) was nowhere near Sokratis (when Sven wanted Söyüncü but experience was the preferred choice), Lichsteiner.

    Also it must have been Sven or the spirit of Wenger who drove Raul to extend Elneny and give him a pay rise after Wenger had tried to get rid of him. Pay rise which means that now none of the Turkish clubs can afford him.

  30. Marc

    Leeds

    Right I see what you meant now – my comment would be who’d accept a payoff of less than 20% of what they’re contractually owed but lets move on.

  31. Wasi

    ‘Honestly fuck knows what’s going to happen this summer – hopefully Sanllehi been making plenty of human sacrifices and will manage to pull off a stunning summer both on incomings and outgoings.’

    You mean Sven Marc?
    Because remember , if anything good happens this summer , it will be Sven helping us from the outside.

    Left

    I didn’t get that comment !!

    I think Val is just Pedro in disguise.

  32. Marko

    So according to Marko, Tierney who was the subject of a bid a few years ago under Wenger and Sven was discovered by Raul

    Who said anything about discovering? Raul signed Tierney. People have been scouting Tierney since 17/18 players are scouted all the time but you still need someone to actually sign the player.

    Saliba who was the target of a bid by Sven at his previous job was also discovered by Raul.

    There you go about discovery again

    Martinelli who was discovered by our head scout and who was initially planned for the U23 was also signed by Raul.

    Now you get it.

  33. Wasi

    Marko

    No point in arguing with Val , he falls back to this statement again no matter what
    ‘Tierney who was the subject of a bid a few years ago under Wenger and Sven was discovered by Raul’
    he has copied it to his clipboard I think. Just pastes it whenever required.

    But what he doesn’t get is Arsenal bid for Tierney when he was 18 , Sven was at BVB.
    Maybe it just means that Sven was working with Arsenal before he signed , when he was here and also after he left.
    Thank God for Sven

  34. Marc

    “Saliba who was the target of a bid by Sven at his previous job ”

    If that’s the case why didn’t we sign Saliba the summer before when he would’ve been younger and cheaper?

    Also whats the age limit on international transfers?

  35. Wasi

    On a side note

    Another source says , Sven helps out UN in his free time and also works to eradicate world poverty. In the lockdown he has been working on a cure for Corona ( released in the world through Raul and his bandits ofc).
    So anytime the vaccine comes out, dont forget it was Sven who designed the formula. He doesn’t like to take the credit on National news as such.
    What makes him happy is people like Val, Pedro who are constantly praising him on football blogs.

  36. Marko

    If that’s the case why didn’t we sign Saliba the summer before when he would’ve been younger and cheaper?

    Oh that’s a good question

  37. Habesha Gooner

    Raul isn’t a Scout FFS. He signed most players since he has been here but the input of the scout, Financial viability and potential are all measured when signing a player. We did okay when Sven was scouting players. Raul signed the players sven recommended. But Sven left because every one of his suggestions wasn’t fully taken. We did okay after he left. The scouts helped us to a massive summer last time. It was Raul’s job to get these deals over the line. He did his job. If the players weren’t good enough he can be partly blamed. He is now heading where we are going. He is supposed to negotiate deals that he along with his team make arsenal better. His team are supposed to provide him with info. he along with the scouts, the head coach and technical director are a unit. None of them will be faultless if signings suck. That’s how I see it anyway.

  38. Wasi

    Marc

    From what understand , a player must be minimum 18 years of age before transferring to England ( dont know about other countries).
    Doesn’t mean you cant do a deal with his parent club before he turns 18.

  39. Leedsgunner

    Marc

    I think you would be surprised how often people take what is put in front of them because they can have it right there and then over waiting for the whole amount…

    Unless you’re Mesut Özil of course.

    He’s determined to see his contract to his sweet and (our bitter) end.

  40. Wasi

    Also Raul made , Sven delay Saliba’s transfer so that him and his bandits can pocket good third party fees a year later.

  41. andy1886

    Big Perm, nice moniker fuckwit.

    No Dennis was nothing like MO or Coutinho, that’s my point but obviously you’re too fucking thick to understand.

    Not much good using your eyes if your brain can’t process information properly is it? Another low IQ troll with nothing better to do with your time.

    What sort of cock writes ‘Haha’ in a post like a fucking ten year old anyway??

  42. Wasi

    Habesha

    You are a 100 hundred percent spot on there.

    Most of the brainwashed people here , dont see it like that though.

  43. Marc

    Habesha

    No one is saying Sanllehi scouted or identified targets. The argument is Mislintat who was supposed to be the best in the business at spotting young unknown talent was Head of Recruitment – during the Summer transfer window where he held this position we signed – Leno, Torreira, Lich, Sok and Guendozi.

    The only one of those players who can be considered a success is Leno and only one of them who was young and unknown is Guendozi who by all accounts Arteta is demanding must be sold.

    Where were the list of great players Mislintat was producing instead of those 4 misfits. Why did we suddenly start signing these players after he left and not whilst he was here.

    There were rumours that the scouting success at Dortmund wasn’t down to Mislintat and from what I’ve seen of his “targets” it’s easy to believe.

  44. Habesha Gooner

    Wasi
    I think it was pedro who started this separation of responsibilities narrative. If we sign Willian or any agent driven signing like he puts it, Arteta’s finger print is also on the deal. All of them will be to blame if we sign crappy players. All of them take the credit if we sign great ones.

  45. Marc

    Wasi

    Yeah I don’t know the exact details on minimum age etc but Saliba is 19 now would’ve been 18 when we signed him, 17 if we’d got him the summer Mislintat was HoR so that means Mislintat was trying to sign him when he was 16 or younger.

    Are players that young allowed to transfer overseas?

  46. Wasi

    Habesha

    Thats how it is.
    And its most definitely Pedro who started the Raul-bad and Sven-good narrative.

  47. Marko

    Do people forget when we signed Fabregas at 15 and he was playing football at 16 for us? I dunno. It’s a passport thing there’s rules against non eu players under 18 being registered but nothing wrong with a french player at 17/18 no

  48. Wasi

    Marc

    We can sign them when they are below 18 but they cant move overseas until they are 18. This is about England or Europe as a whole maybe.
    Thats what I think the new rules are.

    Idk what happens to a player who doesn’t sign a professional/scholarship contract at 16,17 and wants to move to another European nation.

  49. Marc

    Marko

    I thought they’d put new rules in since then to stop players that young being transferred between different countries.

  50. Marko

    We can sign them when they are below 18 but they cant move overseas until they are 18.

    Again not true. We signed Catalin Cirjan last summer and he moved from Romania

  51. Marko

    I thought they’d put new rules in since then to stop players that young being transferred between different countries.

    I mean Jude Bellingham is moving to Dortmund and he’s just 16 or 17. I think United or city just signed up a couple highly rated young Spanish players there recently for their academy.

  52. Wasi

    Found this in relation of transfer of minors

    ‘1. International player transfers are allowed only when the Player reaches the age of 18 years.

    2. The following three exceptions are allowed:

    a) If the player’s parents change their address to the country where the new club

    It is based for reasons not related to football.

    b) The transfer is made within the territory of the European Union (EU) or

    From the European Economic Area (EEA) and the player is between 16 and 18 years old

    Old. The new club must meet the following minimum obligations:

    i. Provide the player with adequate football training or training that corresponds to the best national standards.

    ii. In addition to football training or training, guarantee the Player academic or school training, or training and Education and training according to their vocation, which allows them to start a non-football career in the event that they cease their professional player activity. .

    iii. Take all necessary provisions to ensure that the Player is assisted in the best possible way (optimal living conditions in a family or in a club accommodation, made available to a Tutor in the club, etc.).

    iv. In relation to the registration of the player, he will provide the corresponding association with proof of compliance with the aforementioned obligations

    c) The player lives in his home at a distance of less than 50 km from the National border, and the club of the neighboring association is also at a distance of less than 50 km from the same border in the neighboring country. The maximum distance between the player’s home and that of the club will be 100 km. In such case, the player must continue to live in his home and the two associations in question must give their consent.

    3. The conditions of this article will also apply to any player who has not previously been enrolled in any club and who is not a native of the country in which he wishes to enroll for the first time and who has not lived in that country in an uninterrupted manner for the last five years minimum.’

  53. salparadisenyc

    Such a bore this Raul vs Sven weekly debate that rears its head, when both well and truly worked together. Zero doubt last summers window wasn’t partially cultivated in Mislintat’s time with club.

  54. Marko

    Such a bore this Raul vs Sven weekly debate

    Then

    Zero doubt last summers window wasn’t partially cultivated in Mislintat’s time with club.

    I agree it is boring at this stage but then people still come along and attribute signings made when Sven was no longer here and working at another club.

  55. salparadisenyc

    Marc

    I’m beyond attributing players to this man or that man, the club has a list surely it was used last summer. Players get targeted well in advance in some cases.

    Not a hard piece of knowledge to grasp, Said Mislintat was a trigger word earlier… case in point.

  56. Marko

    I’m beyond attributing players to this man or that man, the club has a list surely it was used last summer. Players get targeted well in advance in some cases.

    I mean you’re not you just attributed transfer dealings last summer to Sven zero doubt you said.

    My question then becomes say there’s a list of players this summer who gets the credit (or blame) this summer? Sven again or is it like a knock on where we give credit to Raul and then next summer it’s Edu turn.

    Not a hard piece of knowledge to grasp, Said Mislintat was a trigger word earlier… case in point.

    I would argue fiction or speculation over facts is more of a trigger but ah well. Tell us again how you don’t want to talk about Raul vs Sven again while attributing signings to Sven.

  57. Valentin

    Does anybody really believe that somebody from the scouting department recommended David Luiz, Pablo Mari and Cedric?

    No somebody above them made the decision.

    If the input from the scouting department is overruled, then the decision good or bad is on whoever overruled them.

    In the other hand if the scouting team recommends a player and that player turns out to be a dud, then it is on the scouting team.

    You also have to make the distinction between a recommended good player purchased on a bad deal, then the fault line somewhere in the middle. If the scouting team does not give a upper limit to their valuation, then they have done only half their job. The scouting team should be able to say Player A is worth up to X. If the purchasing team then go overboard it is on them. Buy a player way above the scouting department recommended price like 2X, then it is on the purchasing team.

  58. Freddie Ljungberg

    “Mesut Ozil has spent the last few days in Turkey and won’t be involved in tomorrow’s”

    Hmm, if he’s still under contract he should still be training no? Pulled another sickie or is something else happening, or just an early holiday. Hope, it sucks…

    Guen also not training, makes more sense if we’re moving him on shortly.

  59. Zacharse

    Considering the incompetence of ozil and his advisors/agents and the fact that his current contract is likely due to Gazidis, i’m not sure its worth paying attention to anything coming out of his camp

  60. Big Perm

    Andy
    -Big Perm, nice moniker fuckwit

    What sort of sad old cunt doesn’t get the reference? Ah the sad virgin type who has some blond bint on their profile.

    -No Dennis was nothing like MO or Coutinho, that’s my point but obviously you’re too fucking thick to understand.

    This is you weaselling out of saying he wasn’t a 10 so don’t bring Ozil or Coutinho into it because you don’t understand that the role can be played differently.

    I understand it’s easy to lash out when you say embarrassing things.

    andy1886July 29, 2020 21:10:28
    Un, nope, DB10 was a striker.

  61. Zacharse

    All one had to do to put Mari on the radar was watch the club world championships among other things. Him and caio led
    That defense to big heights, how many goals did they concede to l’pool in the final?

  62. China1

    My government sauces tell me the only reason we don’t have a cure for covid19 yet is because the gov knows that in order to cure it they’d have to extract all the holy blood out of svens body to share with the world which would be ethically dubious

    Prove me wrong if you can!!

  63. Marko

    Nah China you’re wrong mate I heard there isn’t a vaccine yet because Sven can’t get credit for it. Word is he’s going to be shown around a lab soon and then they’ll be able to get the cure out to the masses

  64. DigitalBob

    Arteta speaking with Arsene I agree with. While Arsene was tactically finished in the modern game theres nothing wrong with listening to a man that had great man management skills. It also shows a humbleness to Arteta.

    Dennis Bergkamp potentially also coming back as a coach……………………….certainly the direction I’d like the club to go backroom wise.

  65. andy1886

    ‘Bint’ – yeah, nice one stone age boy.

    I’ll copy and paste what I actually wrote for the hard of understanding;

    “AFC have only had one modern #10 – Mesut Ozil. And he had what, three good seasons? Don’t forget before Emery, Freddie and now Mikel dumped him Wenger was dropping him and playing him on the wing too”

    The clue is in the word ‘modern’ #10.

    “Every single league title we have won was without an Ozil or Coutinho style #10.”

    Disagree??

    “Un, nope, DB10 was a striker. Nothing like Ozil or Coutinho (I knew you’d bring that up, we’ve had that discussion before). If you don’t believe me perhaps you’d believe the man himself, he’s always said that he considered himself a striker.
    Dennis was what was traditionally called a second striker. Neither MO or PC are anything like Dennis. Not even close. ”

    You are old enough to remember the traditional #10 being a second striker, not a luxury player like Ozil right??

    “Ozil isn’t even remotely a striker, is as robust as a limp lettuce, and has all the determination of a two year old. If Pierre thinks he’s anything like DB10 that says more about his understanding of the game than anything insulting I could come up with.”

    Go on, argue that Ozil was just like Dennis then. Or do you agree??

    “Un, I agree with that but the discussion was focusing on getting a modern no 10 not the old style one like Dennis which is why I said that bar Ozil we’ve never has one of those, which I believe is accurate (and why I noted the differences between them).”

    Which is what I said at the start – DB10 and Ozil or Coutinho are different players, but I’m sure you actually read the posts before chipping in to slag off an argument that I never actually made.

  66. Marko

    DB coming home would be nice. Not sure what his actual coaching ability would be like but he’s a legend of the game and we can find a home for an Arsenal great

  67. Marc

    If people are bored with the Mislintat v Sanllehi debate then it’s simple.

    Admit Mislintat was a massive failure and his reputation is bullshit.

    What you have on here is a bunch who for some unknown reason don’t judge on results, performance or the TRUTH. They get the piss taken out of them by a few on here and then throw a tantrum because they look stupid.

  68. Marc

    andy

    Anyone whose watched football for more than 3 minutes knows what you mean. There’s a world of difference between the likes of Bergkamp or Cantona and a CAM or Ozil type number 10.#

    Guy’s being a twat.

  69. andy1886

    Marc, I wasn’t bothered by Sven either way but I still think that Raul is a dodgy geezer who could get us into a lot of bother (just like he did at Barca). New lawyer or not we’re not exactly famous for owners who have their fingers on the pulse.

  70. Marko

    I heard Arsenal are considering offering a job to Denis Bergkamp on the recommendation of Sven. I heard his history with the club had nothing to do with it.

  71. Marc

    andy

    If I’m being serious then I believe in giving credit where it’s due. This re writing of history where everything good is “Sven” and everything “wrong” is Sanllehi is bullshit. The Kroenke’s might not be hands on but they’ll have people watching the numbers when we’re losing money – do you really think they’d allow someone to pay tens of millions that aren’t declared in official figures to agents?

    This might be a surprise to a few on here but Billionaires don’t get to be Billionaires by being negligent with money.

  72. Pierre

    It’s a pity that covid has destroyed the atmosphere on cup final day but whichever way you look at it, it is a great achievement by Arteta to reach the final in such a short space of time after taking over a team that was heading for rock bottom.

    We could be in for another Mourinho/Arteta masterclass in the final.

    Arteta won’t give a toss about the performance, it will all be about getting a result.

    Arteta knows that Chelsea have defensive weaknesses, 14 goals conceded away from home in their last 5 games tells it’s own story.

    He will want to frustrate Chelsea and then wait for them to lose their patience, and then the gaps will appear for Arsenal to capitalise.

    It may not be pretty and we may get played off the park for long periods, but that won’t bother Arteta in the slightest.

    The last time we beat Chelsea in the FA cup final , we outplayed them and should have beaten them by 3 or 4..
    They had just been crowned league champions …2-1 didn’t do the team justice.

    I would love to see us put in a similar performance to the 2017 final but I just can’t see us dominating any football match at the moment.

    Tomorrow is all about the result.

  73. Un na naai

    WingdingsJuly 31, 2020 09:49:05
    @Un na naai
    Pep brought him to cityNo he didn’t. Unless you think Pep was manager at Man City in 2011 lol.

    Wingdings
    Don’t know who you are but pep signed John stones and it certainly wasn’t 2011.

  74. Marc

    Marko

    Yeah but where did Sven find him? I mean Sven must live a life straight out of Heart of Darkness going to those places beyond where civilisation exists. He’s more a Superhero than scout.

  75. Marc

    Pierre

    With you 100% there. It just won’t seem right with no fans at Wembley.

    We get the result and I won’t give a toss about the performance – that’s for next season as you say tomorrow is all about the result.

  76. Pierre

    Marc
    “– do you really think they’d allow someone to pay tens of millions that aren’t declared in official figures to agents?This might be a surprise to a few on here but Billionaires don’t get to be Billionaires by being negligent with money.”

    Some would say that paying a player 350,000 a week is negligent…

  77. andy1886

    Marc, you know I hate agendas too (especially other people’s). As with the manager I’ll make my own mind up rather than jump on some bandwagon. Remember last year – ‘winning the transfer window’? How stupid does that sound now?

  78. Marc

    Pierre

    Ozil’s contract is 100% down to Gazidis – CEO’s don’t need to ask future employees on what they should do, it weakens their positions from the off.

  79. Marc

    andy

    You see you get it – if everyone did what they were told and followed my agenda the world would be a better place!

    AS for winning the transfer window you either sign players who are good or bad. I’m happy with who we signed last summer.

  80. Leedsgunner

    Osei Tutu apparently training with the first team?

    Gave good account of himself whilst in Germany.

    Probably will be sold for a small sum considering we have Cedric in now… unless Bellerin gets sold?!?

    I hope Cedric picks up his form because although I didn’t mind him on loan he hasn’t impressed so far.

  81. Un na naai

    Graham62July 31, 2020 10:34:51
    PierreSanchez may have ‘thought the grass was greener on the other side“ but I would say his main reason for leaving was based on the regression around him and the inability of the manager to rectify matters.Sanchez was a warrior and when you have that mindset amongst so many others who were set in a comfort zone, you have to get out. Remember that 3-3 Bournemouth game?Money obviously attracts and even though it didn’t work out for him at OT( not his preferred choice of club) I reckon if you asked Sanchez why he wanted to leave, it had little to do with greed.More to do with exasperation and frustration at the way things were being run at Arsenal.Basically he couldn’t take it any more.He got pissed off.

    Graham
    😂😱🙈

    He couldn’t take what any more? Being adored by the fans? His best season ever? Being in the form of his life?
    Cop on man. He went for the dough
    If he went for glory he’d have been at city. Either way he was wrong and so are you. Had he stayed he and we would have been far better off
    In the end he made the wrong decision.
    Arsenal and Wenger was the right place and the right guy for him. Neither of you realised it

    Only one of you does now

  82. Freddie Ljungberg

    Leeds

    Osei Tutu was apparently so weak defensively that they had to move him to RW, in bundesliga 2. So I don’t think he’s a viable alternative there for us, Cedric has only played a couple of games and is just a back up, should be fine. Wouldn’t mind an upgrade on Bellerin though but that’s probably asking too much this window, unless he wants to move on.

  83. Valentin

    Pep Guardiola signed to become manager of ManCity on 1 February 2016.
    John Stones joined ManCity in August 2016.
    Pep Guardiola.

    Raul did the scouting… 😋

  84. Un na naai

    MarkoJuly 31, 2020 18:04:24
    Too soon?Not really too soon just not remotely funny.

    You’d have to be at least mildly aquatinted with humour before passing judgment so you can just sit this one out eh kid

  85. andy1886

    Val, as long as Pep keeps him and doesn’t try and flog his old rubbish to Mikel I don’t care. Read somewhere that they’d spent £300m+ on their defence which only gets away with it the way it does because the opponent has so little of the ball.

  86. Leedsgunner

    Freddie

    I believe he started badly but improved as his loan progressed.

    What we need a RB/RWB equivalent of Tierney.

    Max Aarons?

  87. Valentin

    Sanchez excelled when he is the main man. He creates havoc around him and the rest of the team plays for him.
    The problem with Sanchez starts when he has to play in a very discipline system and/or when he believe that he can do everything on his own without the team.
    Most great players have that character flow, because in most cases it is true. They are so much better than their teammates, those can be an hindrance. However there is a limit at which no matter how great a player is his selfishness becomes self defeating.
    Ronaldo learned it playing with Portugal. But
    Sanchez had to learn that hard lesson at ManUtd after getting pissed off at Arsenal. His relentless will to win became rage against his own team. Unfortunately for him He carried that rage and frustration to ManUtd as well.

    It looks like he still carry a grudge toward ManUtd as he is refusing to join them back for pre season training.

  88. Marko

    You’d have to be at least mildly aquatinted with humour before passing judgment so you can just sit this one out eh kid

    You’re right Don it was real rib tickler George Floyd scouted Dennis Bergkamp. There’s levels to it honestly

  89. Champagne Charlie

    “Mesut Ozil has spent the last few days in Turkey and won’t be involved in tomorrow’s #HeadsUpFACup  final. #Arsenal #AFC” – Christ Wheatley

    But I’m assured by Pierre that Arteta has something against Ozil, and it’s nothing to do with him being the furthest thing from a team player.

    Odd, now I’m torn who to believe.

  90. CG

    The G

    “””””The problem with Sanchez starts when he has to play in a very discipline system and/or when he believe that he can do everything on his own without the team.”””””

    Phenomenal management from the peerless Wenger
    To extract from:

    (Sanchez 122 games at Arsenal ( 60 goals))

    Sanchez 54 games post Arsenal ( 7 goals)

    How the £72 million flop Pepe would love that output.

  91. Chris

    Sanchez is one of my favourite Arsenal players from the last decade. I admired many things about him, namely his work rate, his explosiveness, his sheer will to win.

    He scored some absolute thunderbastards, but also goals with a lot of finesse.

    I was sad to see him leave and sad to see his career stutter. Hope he can pick it up permanently at Inter or elsewhere.

  92. Pedro

    Wasi, the narrative I started is now playing in MSM, so, I guess you should be thankful you get info here first.

  93. Pierre

    “But I’m assured by Pierre that Arteta has something against Ozil, and it’s nothing to do with him being the furthest thing from a team player.”

    Yeah , greedy sod that Ozil , shoots on sight, tries to dribble past the whole team, never passes to a team mate, only interested in personal glory and getting his name on the team sheet.