Guess who isn’t leaving?

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Newcastle United will NOT be taken over by the bad folk that chop up dissenters.

I absolutely LOVE to see it.

Their fans, the greatest on earth, spent the last 3 months justifying the takeover, completely throwing all ethics to the wind… they were dreaming of Pochettino, MBappe, and spending £300m in a single summer.

Now they have nothing. Another season of Steve Bruce football. The hope that Andy Carroll might sign on for another year.

Good.

After that carry-on, they deserve Mike Ashley, and to have SPORTS DIRECT painted on their stadium.

My worry is that sports washing fund has just moved onto another Premier League club. I hope it’s not Spurs, who are rumoured to be looking for a buyer.

ONTO ARSENAL.

Arsenal inquired as to the availability of Jack Grealish and were told £70m. A silly sum of cash that basically says they don’t want to sell him this summer. I love the player, but we really don’t need to play with fees like that. We’d get better value from a distressed Europe this summer. If City can get Torres for £20m, then we should be looking to match that sort of value.

The Zaha rumours are also hotting up. Palace is not going to be a club with hundreds of millions this summer, but they do need a rebuild, and Zaha could be a good make-weight for them. I think he had the second most take ons in the league last season, and he’s readymade for the league.

If we are in for him, you’d have to wonder about the future of Pepe. I would not be surprised to see him moved on this summer and the fact he came from the Lille factory of talent via some Mendes dealings likely means there will be a club that they could find for him. I’m just not sure we’d get much in the way of recompense.

Interesting to see Lille getting €50m for a player with one solid season in Ligue 1 under his belt. That sort of price level would be obscene in normal times, why would anyone spend that in a depressed market? Even weirder when you consider they finished 7th this year. No Champions League. Notable that the same team were in the market for Pepe last year as well. Still, one thing is not in doubt, Luis Campos is a god of footballing talent.

Granit Xhaka had some nice things to say about the man who convinced him to stay in December.

“He convinced me to stay with Arsenal,”

“We had a very good conversation shortly after his appointment, and I can really only say positive things about him. He is a young, very meticulous trainer who gives more than 100% in every training session, who optimally prepares us for every single game.

“I have rarely experienced this. He is really a great guy as a coach, but also as a person and I have already learned a lot from him during the time he is with us. Many details that have made me even better.

“So it’s really a pleasure to be able to play under him.”

It’ll be interesting to see if he stays beyond this summer, I suspect he will.

Mesut Ozil’s agent has once again said his client won’t leave this summer. Super odd that the German doesn’t seem to care about football or playing at all. I hope Arsenal cut a deal and he leaves on a free. We cannot have his shadow lurking over the club for another season, it’s too disruptive.

FA Cup news has been hard to come by, so I guess we’ll save the chat for tomorrow after some prezzers drop and we get a bit of news.

I’m starting to get excited, I hope you are too.

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  1. Un na naai

    SamirJuly 30, 2020 23:46:07
    If we end up with Stones for 20M. What a shambles of a club. We already have Chambers and Holding. No more British dross please.

    Samir
    Pfff
    Ozil, Elneny, Kolasinac, Guendouzi. That’s dross. 😉

  2. James wood

    Zacharse3.36
    I would think it goes without saying he would start.
    And who said he would not start as a regular starter
    the guy is better than anything we have.?

  3. Emiratesstroller

    There have been two players that have been linked consistently with Arsenal
    over the past six months namely Upamecano and Partey.

    We have missed the boat this summer in the case of Upamecano who is now
    signing a contract extension.

    Partey is clearly the number 1 target for midfield. We need proven and reliable players if we are going to spend serious money in the current market.

    Whilst I think that Arsenal will continue to negotiate with Athletico Madrid to
    cut a deal whether a swap or reduced transfer fee I do not believe that Arsenal
    will walk away from this signing. To do so would be absurd.

    Frankly I would much rather buy a couple of strategic players in the right age
    bracket than spend money on speculations.

    When you analyse our current squad we have currently plenty of players in
    18-22 category and also 29+,but not enough in the 23-28 category who are at
    top of their game both physically and mentally.

    Many so-called media experts keep on discussing wingers. Bluntly I don’t
    understand the logic. We have got on our books 4 wingers + Aubameyang who can also play in wide position.

    Okay some may be disappointed by the performance to date of Pepe, but we
    have made a huge commitment/investment in this player and if we were to
    sell him then the club would make a huge loss. I still believe that he has the
    potential to improve.

    Messrs Saka and Martinelli are both quality youngsters who have played this
    season on left wing. Saka has provided a large number of assists and Martinelli has scored 10 goals. What are you going to do with these players if
    we buy another winger?

  4. Chris

    If we do have a limited budget I would rather see us use all of it on the one or two midfielders with the attributes we have been crying out for, ie Athleticism, Creativity, Intelligence and just a general dynamism.

    When you look at the rest of the likely first 11 next season, add the above ingredients to it and we have the basis of a team that can definitely challenge the top 4.

    What I wouldn’t like to see is the budget being spread across several positions to plug supposed gaps. I would be happy to see only 2 signings perhaps if they are the requisite quality we need in midfield.

  5. Bojangles

    “Defensive trio Rob Holding, Sokratis Papastathopoulos and Shkodran Mustafi, midfielders Matteo Guendouzi and Lucas Torreira plus striker Alexandre Lacazette could all be moved on.”

    Apparently these are the players Arteta is willing to let go of the right offer comes in. Also he’s prepared to let Nelson leave if the money is there.

  6. JOEL

    Arsenal’s problem is twofold.We have a large number of players who need to be moved on but their ridiculous wages prohibit such a move in many cases . Secondly the Club have no money and have likely spent this Season’s Budget previously in the hope that this would move them back into the Champion’s League.
    This means that “like it or lump it” Arteta needs to sanction the sale of players he might ordinarily wish to keep.Leno,Bellerin,AMN,Nelson,Lacazette,Holding,and Torreira in addition to the “wantaway” Guendouzi are undoubtedly worth something even in the current market.Unfortunately Kolasinac,Elneny,Ozil,Sokratis are not and similarly to Mikki will probably have to be given away on a “free” just to remove their salaries from the Arsenal wage bill.
    Another problem for the Club lies in the inability of either Raul or Edu to negotiate a deal.Hopefuly I might be proved wrong and once the Cup Final is played out…with a positive outcome!!(as the Europa League does at least generate extra funds for the Club)then this Latin Duo will be able to generate enough working capital for the Club to buy in players that we so desperately need…Players who will lay it all on the line for their Manager every single week…won’t make mistake after mistake…will maintain focus for a full 90 minutes …and are capable of making this Club competitive once again…Otherwise mid-table mediocrity beckons for many years to come.If we can’t even compete with the likes of West Ham,Wolves and Everton in the transfer market its going to be a very long road back!!

  7. Pierre

    Ishola
    “Absolutely correct.The over-rating of him (cliche)by fans when he was at Arsenal was ridiculous.They were totally blind and oblivious to his defensive errors which numbered many.

    So overrated that the best team in the country bought him…Manchester City.

  8. Ishola70

    Pierre

    “So overrated that the best team in the country bought him…Manchester City.”

    And it didn’t take that long for Pepe to get rid of him once he too over.

    Hugely over-rated.

    Embrace that fact.

  9. Ishola70

    Pierre

    The man who rates Mhiki but sees Arsenal cancel his contract lol

    You want to get down there Pierre and show Arsenal how a club should be run.

    Starting with the re-signing of Lichtsteiner who you rated lool.

  10. Ishola70

    “Pep brought him to city”

    Course he did.

    5 years before he joined.

    That’s how good Clichy was.

  11. Ishola70

    The club still have a Wenger hangover.

    That’s why they still buy ball playing defenders that can’t defend like David Luiz.

    A good few years yet until the Wenger effect has totally diminished.

  12. Un na naai

    Ishola70July 31, 2020 08:22:28
    The club still have a Wenger hangover.That’s why they still buy ball playing defenders that can’t defend like David Luiz.A good few years yet until the Wenger effect has totally diminished.

    Looooool
    Let’s all point at the div and laugh 😂

  13. Un na naai

    SidJuly 31, 2020 08:28:27
    Stones and Maguire is a good example of why not to spend big on Grealish
    You can take this to the bank!

    Sterling sancho and Saka say the opposite you feckin fecker

  14. Useroz

    If Arteta has learned anything , even before he joined the club, it’d be player purchase.

    Most decent clubs but what they needed and Arsenal buys what’s pushed to us and /or those who could do only 70/80% of the job.

    Look at the buys in the last 5 years. Who’s genuinely a fit for purpose buy that works out? Some but a small %.

    Big clubs target key positions eg CB, CM and strikers, or the spine as many call it.

    Other than Auba, we didn’t have a proper striker in the last 5 years. Laca dropped off faster than a Porsche 911.

    Manure, Liverpool, Chelsea pay decent fees (not always OTT) and get who they wanted, quickly! Impact from van D, fernandes, etc was material and visible.

    Who did we get these days? Seafood of the day from super agents, has-been 27 to 30 yo, near flops wanting a come back etc. That s fine if we had a strong team and take a CHEAP punt. But no, these are fucking expensive punts starting 100k pw and could be 250k for Coutinho if media is to be believed! Willian is good but another 30yo at 180k pw., Zaha again… seriously??

    Financial challenges aside, we should aim for 23 to 25 yo for the core /starting 11, and sprinkle with kids and near retiree punts if bargains.

    Tbh, Partey alone is no where near a fix to our site MF. Ceballos is weak and no more than a ST loan.

  15. Big Perm

    Ishola
    And it didn’t take that long for Pepe to get rid of him once he too over.

    After winning 2 titles with two different managers there?

    Yet another player under rated by some know nothing arsenal fans.

    Some cunt the other day trying to say Bergkamp wasn’t a number 10 but I suppose that’s the le grove experts for you.

  16. Pierre

    Ishola
    “A good few years yet until the Wenger effect has totally diminished.”

    It’s pretty obvious that the Wenger effect diminished around 3 months after Emery arrived.

  17. CG

    Big Perm

    “””””Yet another player under rated by some know nothing arsenal fans”””””

    These fans were so spoilt ,entitled and took for granted watching exciting and exhilarating talents for 2 decades if has completely effected their judgement of players.

    Even in Wenger’s latter years.
    We witnessed Cescs, Hlebs, Sanchez, Ozil, Vermaelen, Sagnas, Eduardo, clichys types etc.

    The fans now get exited when we attempt to buy destroyers like Partey for a ridiculous £50 million instead.

    There will be no Party if Arsenal fork out £50 million for the 28 year old ,with virtual no assits and 4 goals in his last 2 seasons

    Just an almighty hangover for the next manager to clear up.

    We need more creativity , flair and invention….not just center defenders masking as center midfielders ( which basically what Partey is)….

    And Just like what our Wenger constantly served up.

  18. Un na naai

    Daniel AltosJuly 31, 2020 09:02:02
    So as I have been suspecting all along we roll into next season with xhaka and ozil ffs….we are a joke club I swear

    😭 😭
    Dani. So what? You want him gone just because?

  19. Emiratesstroller

    CG

    As usual you write a lot of tosh.

    The only player on your list who was a top class player during his Arsenal career was Fabregas. Sanchez had one good season at the club and was disruptive and Ozil turned out to be a luxury player who we could ill afford.

    What Arsenal need at the moment are “team players” who provide football
    leadership, intelligence and consistent performance. The so called technically
    gifted players are only useful if you have a reliable and solid team.

  20. Un na naai

    Stroller

    Sanchez was fucking quality from the moment he arrived until his final season. Top drawer.

    14/15
    25 goals and 12 assists

    15/16
    17 goals and 11 assists

    16/17
    30 goals and 18 assists

    We have never ever had a wide man producing such numbers.
    He frightened the life out of opposition players because he could do it all. He could score any goal. He was even great in the air for a midget.

    Then there was RvP who was top top class
    Wilshere and Eduardo would have been had it not been for injury.
    How can you talk down such a beautiful team to watch? We were blessed to have it, while challenging, while reaching finals and semis, while achieving top four every season and participating in the champions league

    I’d give my left nut to have that team back again

  21. CG

    ES

    “”””What Arsenal need at the moment are “team players” who provide football
    leadership, intelligence and consistent performance.””””””

    And does signing the Ghanaian Carlton Palmer for £50 million achieve this?

  22. CG

    UN

    “””””We were blessed to have it, while challenging, while reaching finals and semis, while achieving top four every season and participating in the champions league””””””

    well said.
    especially with Stan at the helm in the background , penny pinching at every corner.

    #Genius Management#
    #Wengerism#
    #Book Launch 2020#

  23. Emiratesstroller

    Un na naii

    Sanchez had one excellent season, but then became a “drama queen” and disruptive.

    No-one argues that he was not a hugely gifted footballer and the same was also
    the case with Ozil, but both are flawed characters.

    Van Persie and Wilshire were also gifted players, but spent an awful lot of time
    injured.

    As I pointed out if you have a quality squad and first eleven you can afford to
    have such players on the books, but that was sadly not the case in last 15 years.

  24. Jamie

    It’s strange to see so many wanting this ‘top 4 quality squad’ gutted when our only genuine target next season is to finish in the top 4. Think of the money the club could save by achieving our only KPI without needing to recruit any new players this summer.

    If I didn’t know better, I would say it sounds like those folk are starting to think we’re either not actually a top 4 quality squad, or that Arteta isn’t the wondercoach he was being billed as a year ago (it’s the former, stupid).

    Hoping for a sweet FA Cup victory this weekend. Fuck the Chelsea scum. Until then, 30 degrees outside, going to soak it all in. Catch you on the flip, lads.

  25. Wasi

    ET

    Sanchez had 2 excellent seasons and 1 Absolutely top class season.
    Only his last season was not good enough but it had more to do with his mental state than his ability

  26. Daniel Altos

    I think some of you are not being honest with your Pepe bashing…what is this influence on our attack that you want him to have?Pepe doesn’t even have a functional midfield,he has to come too deep to collect the ball and do the damage…I know Messi isnt the most useful example,but I’ll say this….anyone who has watched Barca this season will tell you that messi’s goalscoring numbers have dropped because he is often found in the middle of the pitch trying to create play due to Barca having a dead midfield that can’t thread through balls/forward passes…we are suffering the same issue now. Imagine salah at pool,he is in a flat front 3 with 3midfielders who work their asses off and Arnold overlapping…not to mention mane on the other side so he doesn’t have 4 defenders coming for him.Put salah in our current 4-5-1 trying to carry the ball from our half with no support and see how he would perform lol .Now look at Pepe,when was the last time an Arsenal right back overlapped?Our left side has no winger too.

    Unbelievable that people are preaching consistency and then mention zaha ….he is in no way consistent.I have watched alot of palace matches where he has been pretty shitm

  27. Daniel Altos

    Un na naaiJuly 31, 2020 09:07:48
    Daniel AltosJuly 31, 2020 09:02:02
    So as I have been suspecting all along we roll into next season with xhaka and ozil ffs….we are a joke club I swear😭 😭
    Dani. So what? You want him gone just because?

    Un we are not getting top 4 with xhaka as a stable part of our midfield next season….maybe you are one of the believers that he has turned a corner,but I don’t buy that shit

  28. Daniel Altos

    And no to coutinho….another (as CG would call it)harlem globetrotter midfielder who just scores the occasional screamer now and then,that’s not worth 25m.

  29. Wingdings

    @Un na naai
    Pep brought him to city

    No he didn’t. Unless you think Pep was manager at Man City in 2011 lol.

  30. Tom

    The history rewrite on here is quite epic at times.
    Both Sanchez and Ozil were GREAT fucking signings for Arsenal and the only reason both have become a sort of a pariah is because the club has mismanaged their contracts.
    Had we sold Sanchez for a 100% profit or more when the writing was on the wall he wanted to leave, and held firm to our wallet when Ozil’s agent tried to jack it while the rest of the football world watched on without any interest, neither player would’ve garnered much negative sentiment from a clear eyed observer.
    Know your station as a club in a food chain ffs.
    All this talk about competing with Bayerns of the world really fucked us up.
    There’s nothing wrong with Arsenal being a selling club if done for the right reasons and the price.

  31. Marc

    Jamie

    “If I didn’t know better, I would say it sounds like those folk are starting to think we’re either not actually a top 4 quality squad, or that Arteta isn’t the wondercoach he was being billed as a year ago”

    It’a actually a bit of both, Arteta clearly is a skilled coach but his management skills are not at the required levels. As for the squad, having no midfield would hamper any team.

  32. Tom

    Coutinho not worth 25 m but Zaha worth 80m – transfermarkt valuation by CG.
    Are you sure you wanna go with this sort of recommendation Daniel Altos?

  33. Pierre

    Stroller
    You sort of contradict yourself .

    1) sanchez and Ozil are flawed characters.
    2) RVP and wilshere were always injured.(can add Diaby, Cazorla Ramsey and Rosicky to the list)
    3) squad and starting 11 not up to standard last 15 years

    And yet Wenger still manages to qualify for champions league 18 years on the bounce and win trophies , whilst playing quality football.

    Are you saying he worked miracles?

    In my opinion , it would have been impossible to achieve such high league positions every season without a strong squad ; taking into consideration the amount of injuries we had to many influential players.

    Not forgetting the horrendous injuries to leg breaks for Ramsey, Diaby and Eduardo from opposition who would kick Arsenal players with impunity
    of course we never received protection from officials .

    The only way to stop Arsenal back on the day was to kick them….its not the case now..

  34. Just Another Customer

    ay yo hold up let me be the voice of reason here

    trust in the sauce
    trust in the rolodex

    simple as.

  35. Marc

    “Sterling sancho and Saka say the opposite you feckin fecker”

    During one of the “who we should buy” arguments the other day a LW was being pushed – I asked where Saka would play if we brought in another winger and was roundly shouted down because Saka whilst having potential is young, not the finished article yada yada. His now being compared to Sancho and Sterling.

    The comments section on here has the memory of a Goldfish.

  36. Marc

    “The only way to stop Arsenal back on the day was to kick them….its not the case now..”

    No you just sit back and let them implode.

  37. Countryboy

    Anyone still clamoring for Coutinho type of signings should know this

    WE ARE NOT GOING TO OUTSPEND LIVERPOOL, MAN CITY, CHELSEA AND UNITED.

    So signing players like Buendia and Szo is not just being creative as Gentlebris puts it, ITS A NECESSITY.

    We. Do. Not. Have. A. Choice.

    You get Coutinho on loan for a year with money you don’t have, well guess what? Chelsea buys Havertz.

    With Money They Have..

    You buy Willian. They bought Ziyech.

    Difference is they are getting players who are yet to peak.

    While we are wasting money on has-beens.

    Its not sustainable.

  38. CG

    Tom

    “”The history rewrite on here is quite epic at times.
    Both Sanchez and Ozil were GREAT fucking signings for Arsenal.”””

    Well said Tom,

    Wenger that season,( through his own blood,sweat and tears) finally putting Arsenal, where they belong at the top table of European soccer.

    Nowadays- its Cebollas from Real Madrid and Denis Suarez from Barca.

  39. Uwot?

    Tom excellent point.Where might we be now financially if those two decisions had been handled correctly.Could have been our Liverpool moment financially.instead Gazidis/wenger f*** kd up big time……..

  40. Pierre

    Sanchez thought the grass was greener on the other side, unfortunately he was very badly advised and money became more important to him than playing football.

    Sanchez had a manager ( wenger ) who knew how to get the best out of him and a team mate ( ozil) who would feed him the ball in the areas that he could do maximum damage, a partnership made in heaven.

    Unfortunately, neither have been the same player without the other and neither have since had a manager who could extract the maximum from either player .
    The opposite in fact…

    Wenger was a master at getting the maximum out of creative players …Pepe would have loved him.

  41. Tom

    “It’a actually a bit of both, Arteta clearly is a skilled coach but his management skills are not at the required levels. As for the squad, having no midfield would hamper any team“

    Arteta has been heavily influenced by Pep and Pep never worked with substandard talent the sort Arsenal have now.
    Every manager makes mistakes but they tend to look worse when you don’t have elite level players to bail you out from your occasional brain fart.

  42. Daniel Altos

    TomJuly 31, 2020 09:54:42
    Coutinho not worth 25 m but Zaha worth 80m – transfermarkt valuation by CG.
    Are you sure you wanna go with this sort of recommendation Daniel Altos?

    @Tom am talking about the loan fee plus salary being bandied about

  43. Habesha Gooner

    Excited for the cup final today. I feel we can’t sit deep as we did against city because of the presence of Giroud. We need to have balance between deep block and high press.

    Line up
    Martinez,
    Bellerin, Holding, Luiz, Tierney, Saka
    Xhaka, Ceballos
    Pepe, Lacazette, Aubameyang

    AMN can also be an option but that Europa league final Last year may be on his mind so I wouldn’t want to risk it.

  44. Marc

    Tom

    That doesn’t explain his poor in game management and poor substitution decisions – mostly timing.

    There’s a huge difference between good coach and a good manager. A good manager doesn’t have to be a good coach he can delegate some of that, a good coach can’t delegate management decisions. So far Arteta looks a good coach can he raise his management levels?

  45. Habesha Gooner

    Marc
    I can’t believe I am saying it but Mustafi will be a miss. Holding looked shaky versus Watford. O hope he is motivated again for another cup final. Foot race wouldn’t be much of a problem we don’t let Pulisic and Willian get at our Central defenders.

  46. Sid

    From the type of football we are playing, Arteta is more influenced by Moyes but the narrative that he is heavily influenced by Pep suits his fanboys

  47. Tom

    “That doesn’t explain his poor in game management and poor substitution decisions – mostly timing.“
    Marc, no it doesn’t but my point was how susceptible is Pep to these kind of mistakes with the squad he’s got?
    Not a lot.
    Mahrez having an off day? No problem. Bernardo Silva….in you go son.

  48. China1

    Sanchez was great until his last season where his head had been turned

    He put the team on his back until then. Very good signing

  49. Sid

    If Saka and Pepe are upgrades on Mikhi and Iwobi then we should be playing better football if the coach is anything like Pep.

  50. DigitalBob

    Habesha – I agree, Holding can go from solid to shit from one game to the next. If he’s motivated and focused he could have a great game against that Chelsea attack.

    I’m really hoping Kolasinac is no where near the first 11 and doesn’t make it on the field till we are lifting the cup!

  51. Graham62

    Pierre

    Sanchez may have ‘thought the grass was greener on the other side“ but I would say his main reason for leaving was based on the regression around him and the inability of the manager to rectify matters.

    Sanchez was a warrior and when you have that mindset amongst so many others who were set in a comfort zone, you have to get out. Remember that 3-3 Bournemouth game?

    Money obviously attracts and even though it didn’t work out for him at OT( not his preferred choice of club) I reckon if you asked Sanchez why he wanted to leave, it had little to do with greed.

    More to do with exasperation and frustration at the way things were being run at Arsenal.

    Basically he couldn’t take it any more.

    He got pissed off.

  52. China1

    I guess Sanchez was wenger a last great signing. Ofc there’s auba but Sanchez was bought below market rate imo so was value for money as well as elite, where auba is doing about what you’d expect of a 70m striker

  53. China1

    Graham same reason we routinely lost our best players

    We never put up a serious case for our elite talents to stay. ‘Top 4 is a trophy’ is not selling a dream to anyone who wants to be lifting the CL…

  54. China1

    I have a bad feeling about this final.

    But my match day predictions are consistently wrong so LOOKS LIKE WE’RE WINNING THE CUP BOYS!!!

  55. Habesha Gooner

    digital
    I didn’t expect holding to put that performance in the last cup final either. So we never know how it will play out.

    Kolasinac I agree on. If there are no injuries we shouldn’t even sub him in.

  56. Marc

    China

    I’ve had the same feeling all week – the only way I’ve been able to console myself is that I had the exact same feeling before the 2017 final.

  57. Bojangles

    Sanchez was exasperated with his team mates who refused to press (probably a Wenger directive.) This and a lack of desire shown by the club was too much for him. He would be a perfect fit under Arteta. And would help to address the lack of character currently in the squad.

  58. Pierre

    Graham
    If it wasn’t greed then why did Sanchez turn down City for more money at United when it was obvious that City had a better team and manager.

    Arsenal was sanchez level but he became too big for his boots
    He was never a regular at Barca , simply because he isn’t elite level.

    The closest he got to elite level was at Arsenal and that is because of 2 people.

    He didn’t make it at United as he never had that manager or that player to bring the best out of him.

  59. Trap

    Buendia fanboys ! The club isn’t interested in your boy …..let go,this isn’t football manager .
    It’s been greatest,szobozalai and now coutinho nowhere has buendia come up

  60. China1

    Pierre wenger handled Sanchez perfectly but I don’t think it was some kind of managerial genius. Sanchez has always been a player who plays best when not micromanaged just like (not coincidentally) all our best wenger buys.

    Wenger gave Sanchez as much instruction and management as everyone else ‘express yourself’. Sanchez is a player who thrives in that setup. He didn’t fail at Utd because they were too big or he wasn’t good enough, he just was put into a system where he had very specific instructions – something he’s consistently demonstrated doesn’t suit him. If utd had said to him ‘do your thing, enjoy’ like wenger he would’ve been a completely different player (injuries permitting)

  61. The Godfather

    The mere fact that City and United were in a battle for Alexis
    and not one team of note cast even a mere glance in Ozil’s direction should’ve
    been a massive red flag for a club with any sense.

    Again someone was either on the take or massively incompetent to give that
    man 350k per week

  62. Trap

    Arsenal and Barca reportedly about to swap guendouzi (100m) for coutinho+109m) ..,.it’s not straight seems like some form of book balancing same as Arthur and pjanic deal …. Barca might just get 9m ?

  63. Trap

    Arsenal and Barca reportedly about to swap guendouzi (100m) for coutinh(109m) ..,.it’s not straight seems like some form of book balancing same as Arthur and pjanic deal …. Barca might just get 9m ?

  64. Trap

    ‘Notional £9m’ = Arsenal e.g. sign Coutinho for £109m and Barcelona sign Guendouzi for £100m, in order to balance the books. Barca sold Arthur to Juventus for €72m and signed Pjanic from Juventus for €60m.

  65. Nelson

    Pierre

    Graham
    If it wasn’t greed then why did Sanchez turn down City for more money at United when it was obvious that City had a better team and manager.

    Pierre, you are dead wrong here,. Sanchex was over joyed when he was informed that he could join MC. Arsenal stopped the transfer because there wasn’t sufficient time to sign a replacement. They almost signed Lemar for 90m.

  66. Freddie Ljungberg

    Ceballos on loan with obligation to buy for around 25m next year and Coutinho for 9m + Guen and we have the start of and excellent midfield for very little outlay this year. Just need a beast B2B/DM so we don’t have to suffer Xhaka and the low block he makes necessary.

    He can stay and captain the cup team if we get rid of Guen and Torreira.

  67. Tom

    “Again someone was either on the take or massively incompetent to give that
    man 350k per week“

    A face saving exercise more like it, or panicked reaction triggered by confluence of events.
    Ox taking a pay cut and jumping ship. Sanchez looking for a massive pay increase, or as some call it , showing ambition , clearly.
    And Ozil coming off his best spell as an assist maker.

    In hindsight : Ox hasn’t turned out to be that important a player to lose so him leaving should’ve been met with a shoulders shrug and not the holly shit players are leaving Arsenal to play for “free “under Klopp , over the top reaction.
    Sanchez should’ve been sold probably even before the City’s 60m offer.
    And Ozil was never worth north of 200k and should’ve been sold as well or kept on sustainable wages for an Arsenal type of club.
    Unfortunately by then Wenger was under so much pressure that treating any one of the three aforementioned cases with calm and reason was almost impossible.

  68. Marc

    Freddie

    You think Barca are going to take a hit on Coutinho who cost £140 million by taking £9 million plus Guendozi?

    Bloody hell I know it’s a warm sunny day but you’ve hit the booze early!

  69. Trap

    Barca are skint and are trying to balance the books they aren’t getting 72m for Arthur’s sale it’s just paper work to balance the books same is now being reported…might not happen but that’s what’s being discussed now reportedly

  70. Paulinho

    Called for Coutinho all of last summer, and I thought when we let Iwobi go that Coutinho was being lined up to replace him. Massive disappointment when that didn’t happen and a year of Auba playing wide in straight lines was in the offing.

    Ceballos again becomes key to find Coutinho in the little pockets of space to unleash howitzers.

  71. Leedsgunner

    Whilst we all fret over who is coming in… I still believe the REAL barometer of success of this transfer window is who we manage to move out.

    In this we need to learn from Chelsea who have always been very very good at selling their fringe players for top money.

  72. Freddie Ljungberg

    Marc

    Didn’t say it was likely, take your complaints up with the independent.

    I don’t think Barca are expecting any 100m for Coutinho though, the rumoured fee has been 60-70m. If they just want to get him off the books it’s possible I guess, Barca has made dumber decisions than that before.

    Don’t think Guen is worth that much personally even though I like him. Don’t want Coutinho on an expensive loan or if we have to shell out full whack but this way I’d take him. If not it’s Szoboszlai all the way for me.

  73. Marc

    Freddie

    I was taking the piss a bit not having a go – I apologise if it came across that way.

    No way Guendozi is worth £100 million and I’d take that story with a container ship worth of salt.

    If by some bizarre situation it is true the only way I can see it is Barca not being able to write off £120 odd million on one player in one hit so might look to “cook the books” and write the money off as £40 million on three players over time.

  74. Champagne Charlie

    That would be a quality deal for all involved, we gain a baller we need, Barca gain a young player they want plus some cash, minus a fat contract at the club.

    Both clubs also get a nice boost on the balance sheet.

  75. Habesha Gooner

    A very good deal if it is as it is said Guendouzi + 9 mil. But his wages will have to be reduced. 240k is insane. We need to get ozil of the books and pay coutinho up to 180k.

  76. Dissenter

    Freddie
    The arithmetic in that Guendouzi for Coutinho deal is very fuzzy. What does ‘notional £9 million’ mean?

  77. Graham62

    Pierre

    Sorry, don’t agree.

    As China has highlighted, the reason he and all our top players decided to leave was based on frustration not money. Also, it was Arsenal who scuppered his move to MC.

    “We never put up a serious case for our elite players to stay”

    So so true.

  78. Marc

    CC – I just can’t see it happening sounds way too good to be true.

    If it does happen Pedro’s going to have to fall on his sword regarding his constant criticism of Sanllehi.

    Habesha – Yeah his money would have to fall in line with our structure. Can’t see us paying more than Auba’s money.

  79. Leedsgunner

    If we get Coutinho for a straight swap with Guendouzi it’ll be a good deal for us and go some way to make up for the fact that Barcelona absolutely swindled Cesc from us.

    However tell them to forget it if they have the gall to ask for more money…. either as an expensive loan fee or transfer fee.

    I can see Arteta getting Coutinho back to his best… he was brilliant for Liverpool… and a signing of such intent might convince Auba to stay.

  80. Bojangles

    Yeah this “notional” 9 mil is a bit odd. Seem to be suggesting a deal in theory, which every deal on the media is I guess.

  81. Emiratesstroller

    Pierre

    I am not contradicting myself. All the players I listed our talented players as
    individuals, but I don’t rate them as great “club” or “team players”.

    The really outstanding players are those who play for the team and help the
    club to win trophies.

    Both Sanchez and Ozil were in my assessment only interested in money.

  82. CG

    ES
    “””””Both Sanchez and Ozil were in my assessment only interested in money.””””””

    Absolutely ES ( I am glad you have awoken from your slumbers)

    They are all interested in just the money.

    Same applies to Partey and Coutinhio.

    I bet they cant wait to join Arsenal and play in The Loosers Cup on a Thursday afternoon in Belarus.
    A lifelong dream accomplished, I am sure.
    If they come – like any other player these days- it will be for the cash.

    And cash only.

    (Naive man)

  83. Freddie Ljungberg

    Marc

    No worries, didn’t take it that way.

    Yeah it sounds unlikely but it’s the only way I can see us being in for Coutinho and the rumours has been persistent so you never know. If he also takes a paycut we need Pedro to raise a statue of Raul in front of the Emirates with his own 2 hands.

  84. Marc

    “I bet they cant wait to join Arsenal and play in The Loosers Cup on a Thursday afternoon in Belarus.”

    Oh well looks like CG thinks we’re going to win the Cup tomorrow.

  85. Marc

    Freddie

    Pedro will try and turn it to “Mislintat’s actually a Jedi and saw the future where this happened” rather than admit Sanllehi’s done anything good. We’ll then have stories about a £30 million payment to his agent off the books!

  86. Freddie Ljungberg

    I would still try to get Szoboslai even if we somehow managed to fool Barca into that deal. Think he can be really special, Havertz level, and for the fee we’re talking about it’s a no brainer. Get rid of Laca (and if Nelson is on the chopping block too it makes even more sense) play one of Coutinho or Szo on the wings rotating with Saka and Pepe. Plenty of games for them both to get playing time in the center too. Can even go Ceballos Coutinho Szo midfield in some games.
    Loan ESR if we feel he won’t get enough minutes and get a beast DM/B2B and we’re sorted from midfield up.

  87. CG

    Walt

    “””””Oh well looks like CG thinks we’re going to win the Cup tomorrow.””””””

    I am hearing Arteta has been in contact with Mr.Wenger,
    Our chances increased dramatically at a stroke.

    I guarantee Cortinhio and Partey will be cheering on Chelsea tomorrow.

    No way – no these players want Belarus on a Thursday!
    Would you?

  88. Daniel Altos

    With Gabriel Magalhães on his way out, Sven Botman comes in for €8 million at LOSC Lille.

    Joins from AFC Ajax after a good season on loan at sc Heerenveen. Big, dominant in the air, comfortable on the ball, and left-footed, all just like Gabriel .

  89. China1

    I won’t dare to believe guen + 9m = Coutinho because there’s a word for that and it’s a ‘heist’ LOL

  90. Habesha Gooner

    Mislintat did an adequate job but it wasn’t the greatest. But he showed the upside to signing young players. Guendouzi was a steal at 7 mil. And we can recoup money for torreira. But We can’t do that for the likes of Sokratis. That’s why I don’t like spending above 10 mil for players 28+. You are basically resigned to lose your transfer fee if that player doesn’t become a Legend at your club.

  91. Left testicle

    That’s why I don’t like spending above 10 mil for players 28+.
    …………………

    Habesha,
    You wouldn’t pay £10m + £1 for a 28 year old Coutinho?

  92. DigitalBob

    Countinho in exchange for £9 million and a out-of-favour Guendouzi, seems to good to be true.

    I’m familiar with the metrics involved in the Artur/Pjanic deal but are Barca that skint? Like Arsenal levels of skint?

    I think we have to pull the trigger on this one even if I’m no fan of having Coutinho’s “current” wages added to the wage budget.

  93. Habesha Gooner

    Left
    Coutinho was transferred to Barcelona for a 100 mil + though. I would for that kind of talent but those players are rare. There are few players that I would spend 30 mil+ above that are aged 28+. Especially when we are cash strapped. A club like ours can’t afford to operate that way. I was speaking in context. we bought Sokratis for 18 mil FFS. We got robbed there. we aren’t paying just 9 mil for coutinho and I am okay with that. Guendouzi is going the other way and I bet he costs around 30 mil. See Liverpool the last few years and Tell me how many 28+ year olds they have signed for 10 mil+. you wouldn’t find any because that’s not how a self sustaining competing club is run.

  94. mb

    Will 10m for Coutinho considering Guen may never be in playing XI be an OK deal?

    Only time will tell. We were so excited with Pepe joining last season and finished the worst I can remember.

    There is no 100% guarantee any signings will work. If you are low on money and there is a risk factor, why take a high wage earner or a costly transfer.

    Pepe’s money could have been split in two, I am sure one would have out performed him.

  95. salparadisenyc

    Habesh

    For me ridiculous to try and break down Mislintat vs Raul with so many blurred lines.

    In the end, naive to think Raul wasn’t involved in decision making prior to his actual arrival, equally naive to think Raul wasn’t working from list of players targeted during Mislintat’s time.

    Club apparently had long standing interested in Tierney that goes back to Wenger’s time. That’ll be tester for some.

  96. Leedsgunner

    I hope, and I really hope Edu and Raul pull an absolute blinder this summer because I have to tell you I have my annual bout of transfer envy every year when I see BvB and Ajax operate in the summer transfer window.

    There’s no reason why we couldn’t operate a similar model here. They acquire top young talent, play good football, and sell their excess players for good profit.

  97. Trap

    Barca are in same financial situation as arsenal just do a quick read in their finances ,yes there revenue is superb but they are a shambles, there wage bill is shittier than ours with over aged players

    Only pep can save them from themselves

  98. Trap

    We should Target youth but not to become a free market for the likes of real ,city and Barca ….do it for the Long haul,to challenge

  99. andy1886

    “Some cunt the other day trying to say Bergkamp wasn’t a number 10 but I suppose that’s the le grove experts for you.”

    That was me you prick, and if you actually read my comments (I may be assuming too much and you can actually read) then you’d know what I actually said was that Dennis wasn’t a modern #10 like Ozil or Coutinho.

    You’d also know that Dennis has said he considered himself a striker, not an overrated bug eyed waster like Ozil who even Arsenal.com list as a midfielder, not even a forward.

    Twat.

  100. Leedsgunner

    Trap

    “ We should Target youth but not to become a free market for the likes of real ,city and Barca ….do it for the Long haul,to challenge…”

    Fair point and in an ideal world I agree but the problem is young players hardly stray long enough to challenge.

    We need to see progress every year and a serious title challenge within three. Otherwise we become like Spurs.

  101. Wasi

    A very good source says that Arsenal are very much interested in Lille CB Gabriel. Other big teams like Psg , Manu,Napoli and one small team Everton are also reportedly interested do signing him wont be easy.
    Great signing if we can nab him for the 20mil that is being reported.

    Saliba + Gabriel + Tierney and 3/4 potential top class defense is already sorted.

  102. Leedsgunner

    The fact that we had a good transfer with Pepe when he was at Lille might give us a edge if we are trying to sign Gabriel.

    Perhaps we could offer them Mustafi as a part of the deal? By the time we kick off in the autumn he’ll be well in recovery…

  103. Leedsgunner

    I cannot believe a promoted team won’t look at Sokratis or Kolasinac if we made it attractive. £5m each… a good deal for everyone concerned… cheap for all that experience.

  104. azed

    “he was very badly advised and money became more important to him than playing football.”

    Pierre

    You are talking about Ozil not Sanchez.

    Sanchez is currently playing football at Inter while Ozil is playing fortnite.

  105. Leedsgunner

    Marc

    Offer to buy the rest of contract off with a no strings attached £1m golden goodbye for full and final settlement…

  106. Hitman49

    Some of you here reall don’t know your history…..

    Wenger had it in his contract to be the highest paid at all times so it makes perfect sense for him to persuade Gazidez to paye ozil a Kings ransom.

    As he benefitted as a result as well it’s obvious that Wenger became a company man and must have been benefitting somehow from the dealings and none dealings, at the club and providing top four each year in a poor league (at the time) but providing great financial gains to the owners and himself ,

    Hence the amount of dead wood accumulated at the time and we are still feeling the financial kick from it.. and pulling along dead wood.

  107. Trap

    Leeds

    I’d say we have everything in place to kick on and become a force,we just need to get it right ,sign the right players for now,replace the aged undelivering player’s,get the wage bill down, qualify for the champions league by then the youth we have should be ready .but to become a selling club ? Hell no !

  108. Marko

    Coutinho’s annual wages of around €13.7m are prohibitive for Arsenal and Standard Sport understands Barca would be willing to pay half his salary, although the Gunners would be charged a loan fee of around €10m for the Brazilian

    So about 17 million for the season? Not bad down from the 27 million or whatever it was being bandied about before

  109. Marko

    In the end, naive to think Raul wasn’t involved in decision making prior to his actual arrival, equally naive to think Raul wasn’t working from list of players targeted during Mislintat’s time.

    He’s the quintessential Boogeyman honestly.

  110. Sid

    PC Harpers killers deserve the needle

    “MP David Lammy, released his government review of racism in the criminal justice system, outlined, the disparity in sentencing partly boils down to a deeply entrenched mistrust of the system among young black men”

  111. CG

    Marko

    “””””So about 17 million for the season? Not bad down from the 27 million or whatever it was being bandied about before””””””

    you have not added what the Spivs. middle- men, are getting?

    It will be a great deal for them, that for sure.

    Cortinhio x 3 transfer windows
    x3 transfers/loans
    x3 agent commissions fees.

    Absolutely disgraceful.
    Just pimping of players, like leaky whores in the night.

    Should be signing Bellingham or Declan Rice types.

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