Guess who isn’t leaving?

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Newcastle United will NOT be taken over by the bad folk that chop up dissenters.

I absolutely LOVE to see it.

Their fans, the greatest on earth, spent the last 3 months justifying the takeover, completely throwing all ethics to the wind… they were dreaming of Pochettino, MBappe, and spending £300m in a single summer.

Now they have nothing. Another season of Steve Bruce football. The hope that Andy Carroll might sign on for another year.

Good.

After that carry-on, they deserve Mike Ashley, and to have SPORTS DIRECT painted on their stadium.

My worry is that sports washing fund has just moved onto another Premier League club. I hope it’s not Spurs, who are rumoured to be looking for a buyer.

ONTO ARSENAL.

Arsenal inquired as to the availability of Jack Grealish and were told £70m. A silly sum of cash that basically says they don’t want to sell him this summer. I love the player, but we really don’t need to play with fees like that. We’d get better value from a distressed Europe this summer. If City can get Torres for £20m, then we should be looking to match that sort of value.

The Zaha rumours are also hotting up. Palace is not going to be a club with hundreds of millions this summer, but they do need a rebuild, and Zaha could be a good make-weight for them. I think he had the second most take ons in the league last season, and he’s readymade for the league.

If we are in for him, you’d have to wonder about the future of Pepe. I would not be surprised to see him moved on this summer and the fact he came from the Lille factory of talent via some Mendes dealings likely means there will be a club that they could find for him. I’m just not sure we’d get much in the way of recompense.

Interesting to see Lille getting €50m for a player with one solid season in Ligue 1 under his belt. That sort of price level would be obscene in normal times, why would anyone spend that in a depressed market? Even weirder when you consider they finished 7th this year. No Champions League. Notable that the same team were in the market for Pepe last year as well. Still, one thing is not in doubt, Luis Campos is a god of footballing talent.

Granit Xhaka had some nice things to say about the man who convinced him to stay in December.

“He convinced me to stay with Arsenal,”

“We had a very good conversation shortly after his appointment, and I can really only say positive things about him. He is a young, very meticulous trainer who gives more than 100% in every training session, who optimally prepares us for every single game.

“I have rarely experienced this. He is really a great guy as a coach, but also as a person and I have already learned a lot from him during the time he is with us. Many details that have made me even better.

“So it’s really a pleasure to be able to play under him.”

It’ll be interesting to see if he stays beyond this summer, I suspect he will.

Mesut Ozil’s agent has once again said his client won’t leave this summer. Super odd that the German doesn’t seem to care about football or playing at all. I hope Arsenal cut a deal and he leaves on a free. We cannot have his shadow lurking over the club for another season, it’s too disruptive.

FA Cup news has been hard to come by, so I guess we’ll save the chat for tomorrow after some prezzers drop and we get a bit of news.

I’m starting to get excited, I hope you are too.

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  1. Marko

    you’ve got history of ignoring what’s actually being said

    “that’s not why we invested so heavily in him. He was to be our Mane/Salah/Hazard/Sterling type player.How many of them are average for 5 games, or do little for 75mins? They’re constant threats, week after week and it’s a crisis of one goes 5 games without a goal.”

    Yep. Apologies

  2. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    Yes, apologies indeed..

    Can you not fathom the comparison being made? There was no mention of goal/assist numbers, purely the influence he is supposed to have on our whole attack.

    They’re unwavering with their influence, Pepe has been anything but. He’s been fleeting, both across multiple games, and across 90 mins itself.

    Really don’t get why that irks you so much, it’s not a slight against you ffs.

  3. WengerEagle

    Never liked Clichy, terrible technique to go with being dozy and soft defensively and he couldn’t cross a set of traffic lights. Had a mistake in him along with the likes of Senderos and Squillaci.

    All he had going for him really was his insane pace and stamina which tbf were elite.

    Monreal was a monumental upgrade on him and Gibbs who was worse than Clichy.

  4. Marko

    It’s not hard to get Sal no one’s arguing that Pepe couldn’t have done better this season it’s more the ridiculousness of people talking about selling him after one season or someone claiming that he should be posting Salah/Mane/Sterling type performances in his first season. The whole thing reeks of I’m not going to like this player because of prefer this player instead. Or in your and Pedro’s case he was signed by Raul using a super agent so the dye is cast.

  5. WengerEagle

    Sagna on the other hand was a G defensively, as rock solid a RB as we’ve had.

    Was also a wank crosser but he was so good defensively it didn’t really matter too much, Wan Bissaka reminds me of him.

  6. Marko

    Can you not fathom the comparison being made?

    Yes you’re comparing a player in his first season in England to 3 of the best players in the premier league these past few seasons. You were expecting similar type performances from the off it seems. No accounting for the overall season and state of the club this season but ah well. Again it’s clear it’s a preference thing more than anything objective.

  7. WengerEagle

    Buendia is a nice little player but fuck me we need goalscorers lads. He scored ONE PL goal all season.

    Liverpool have Mane, Salah, Firmino to supply 70 goals.

    City have Aguero, Jesus, Sterling, Mahrez, KDB, Foden, Bernardo Silva all of whom are going to crack double figures comfortably next season.

    Chavs will have Werner, Havertz, Ziyech, Pulisic, Abraham/Giroud, Mount.

    United could potentially have Martial, Rashford, Jimenez/Sancho, Greenwood, Bruno Fernandes, Pogba for sources of goals.

    We haven’t a hope of competing for CL football without bringing in another reliable source of goals.

  8. Ray in LA

    I liked Sanga…he was also [in addition to his defensive contributions] a safe outlet for the goalkeeper

  9. Champagne charlie

    “You were expecting similar type performances from the off it seems. No accounting for the overall season and state of the club this season but ah well. Again it’s clear it’s a preference thing more than anything objective.“

    We spent a club record amount on him, the 5th highest transfer in PL history, are you going to tell me he wasn’t hitting these shores with a level of expectation to emulate his contemporaries? Nobody claimed he ought to match them, just aspire to be our version.

    That’s why he was bought, and that’s the role afforded to him. How much he lived up to that was there to see for any fan this season, he’s not looked a 70 mil player at any stage. Nvm consistency which nobody would’ve expected off the rip, but he’s not delivered nearly enough to warrant the fee/hype.

    Though apparently that’s a taboo assessment of his season, and not at all objective. Very good.

  10. Habesha Gooner

    Wenger Eagle
    That is due to him being in a poor Norwich team and playing in unfamiliar rightwing position. Go back a season or two and he has decent scoring numbers.

  11. NEEG

    WE -Buendia was playing for Norwich – how do you think he will perform in a better team. For the last 9 months ne has been playing for a team on the back foot and still he has shone.

  12. WengerEagle

    Would like to see us target the following:

    Musa Barrow
    Rodrigo de Paul
    Jeremie Boga
    Fekir
    Marcus Thuram
    Thorgan Hazard
    Idrissi

    All fit the mould of the type of player we need to add going forward in that they are all goalscorers/creators and gifted dribblers. Obviously some would be more expensive than others but they are all attainable [Hazard might be tough if Dortmund sell Sancho] and would improve us.

  13. Ishola70

    Not really true about Buendia.

    The main reasons for Norwich going down were that they were naive and were not capable of shutting up shop in matches.

    Therefore Buendia was not handicapped in regards to getting goals in this Norwich side.

    Old boy Pukki chipped in with 11 goals himself.

  14. The backpass

    Sal

    We may have well spent £10 million on him and he would still need to improve his next season.

    I don’t really understand the argument on this blog anyway..its all zigzag.

    Get an experienced proven player that would immediately make an impact? reply: he has no resale value.

    Get a young player with maximum potential?
    Reply: Lets sell him after a season in which he has been our best creator by the way ( playing for 3 different managers)

    Get a Coutinho on loan. Reply, we should get Szobozlai instead, forgetting its 80 % possible he is going to have a similar season as Pepe.

    My question is what do we actually want?

  15. Marc

    backpass

    “what do we actually want”

    Well for an awful lot on here it’s about point scoring and being able to say “I was right”.

    As I say so often far too many agenda’s beyond the only one that counts.

  16. Champagne Charlie

    “My question is what do we actually want?“

    I want a restructure of CM with an injection of technical ability, dynamism, and creativity. I think we should be bringing in a couple of established players because our needs are current, and the balance in midfield is awful.

  17. The backpass

    CX

    “That’s why he was bought, and that’s the role afforded to him. How much he lived up to that was there to see for any fan this season, he’s not looked a 70 mil player at any stage. Nvm consistency which nobody would’ve expected off the rip, but he’s not delivered nearly enough to warrant the fee/hype.”

    First season in England under three managers. After 2 seasons and he doesn’t improve then that would be fair.

    Same way Modric was labelled one of the worst signings in Madrid, now he is a ballon d’or winner.

    Hazard cost Madrid close to £120 million, and he has been a flop.. But nobody in their right mind would write him off.

    Ditto Griezmann, and maybe Joao Felix.

  18. Habesha Gooner

    WengerEagle
    I actually like Fekir. Liverpool passed on him but I still think he has quality.

    The Backpass
    I don’t think we should sacrifice the future for results next season. We should have a clear plan to build a squad that in time can get in to top 4 and Eventually compete for the title. Rolling the dice to get top 4 every year has ended with us signing stopgap defenders. And I don’t think we should do that at midfield too. We need to build the team the right way even if it means we don’t finish in the top 4 next season. We should be building a team that can compete not just next season but the one after that too. Sokratis came in in the hope of top 4 rather than Soyuncu. Leicester got the better end of the deal and have been moving upwards every year with every deal they make.

  19. The backpass

    Marc

    “Well for an awful lot on here it’s about point scoring and being able to say “I was right”.As I say so often far too many agenda’s beyond the only one that counts.”

    Agreed, Anybody that improves is for 3/4 years is welcome in my book.

    We can’t afford to be doing a dortmund in the Premier league.

  20. The backpass

    CC

    “I want a restructure of CM with an injection of technical ability, dynamism, and creativity. I think we should be bringing in a couple of established players because our needs are current, and the balance in midfield is awful.”

    That is why i would love Coutinho or Zaha and partey.

    I dont care if they are 27/28, we’ve got a lot of youngsters presently, getting a 19/20 year old wouldn’t improve us for at least 2-3 seasons.

  21. WengerEagle

    Hazard’s started just 14 matches in La Liga because of injuries, bit early to say he’s been a flop. Next season will be the teller.

    Very interested to see what happens to Gareth Bale. Real Madrid basically have an Ozil situation of their own there being over a barrel to his crazy contract with Zidane clearly not interested in playing him and his agent this week has made it clear that he doesn’t want to go anywhere else.

    Can’t help but feel that Mourinho and Spurs would have taken a chance on him were it not for his ropey injury record. Other than that, maybe China although Real blocked that last summer.

  22. WengerEagle

    Habesha

    He’s had a decent year at Betis, adapted to the league well although he’s struggled since the restart after the Covid break.

    Far too much quality for a midtable club like Betis.

  23. Ishola70

    Why is Ceballos having his loan extended?

    To continue playing deep with Xhaka?

    I don’t see any restructuring of the midfield there going on do you?

  24. Radio Raheem

    Hazard has been injured most of the season hasn’t he?

    Joao Felix is 19. Besides they have Costa, Morata, Llorente, Carrasco… to play in those attacking positions so no pressure on him.

    Griezmann’s situation might be described as a flop. For me and many others he was/is the wrong player for Messi.

    All very different contexts to Pepe and Arsenal. To be fair all there is to say has been said on this a few times over 😂😂😂😂

  25. Marc

    WE

    The Spud’s can’t afford to pay him a third of his current wages with what’s gone on. Why would he take such a huge hit?

  26. Habesha Gooner

    Ishola,

    Partey/torriera Xhaka/Ceballos
    Coutinho/ ESR/Willock

    This is the midfield Arteta is aiming for I think. If we play our Cards right it will be a decent midfield.

  27. The backpass

    Habesha

    “I don’t think we should sacrifice the future for results next season. We should have a clear plan to build a squad that in time can get in to top 4 and Eventually compete for the title. Rolling the dice to get top 4 every year has ended with us signing stopgap defenders. And I don’t think we should do that at midfield too. We need to build the team the right way even if it means we don’t finish in the top 4 next season. We should be building a team that can compete not just next season but the one after that too. Sokratis came in in the hope of top 4 rather than Soyuncu. Leicester got the better end of the deal and have been moving upwards every year with every deal they make.”

    Getting 27/28 year old doesn’t mean we arent thinking of the future. But we’ve got to have balance all over the pitch.

    Getting a Szobozolai presently wouldn’t improve is next season like a” Coutinho” would, and there is probability Szobozolai doesn’t live up to expectation. I mean, we are currently debating the Merit of Pepe, when he was bought has a 24 year old.

  28. WengerEagle

    Marc

    He likely wouldn’t. In the remote event that he cares more about his first team football and his playing reputation than his wage packet it would be a move that makes sense. Mourinho would love him because as gifted as he is he’s also a workhorse and isn’t a primadonna. Would make for a hell of a story too if he came back and took the PL by storm once again.

    He’s mirroring Ozil’s behaviour here though so he likely stays an rots on the bench until his contract expires. Seems more bothered about his golf and ponytail than his football.

  29. Champagne Charlie

    “That is why i would love Coutinho or Zaha and partey.“

    I think all three of those would completely change our attacking potential. Particularly the addition of Coutinho and Zaha against a packed defence.

    Moves like that will require outgoing business though, I’m talking Laca, Guen, Torreira, Nelson, AMN, Holding. To boost the coffers or in swaps.

  30. WengerEagle

    Since when is 27/28 not thinking about the future?

    It’s not FIFA where players turn to shit when they hit their 30th birthday. A 27 year old in plenty of cases has yet to even approach their prime and can give you half a decade of top service.

  31. The backpass

    RR

    “Hazard has been injured most of the season hasn’t he?Joao Felix is 19. Besides they have Costa, Morata, Llorente, Carrasco… to play in those attacking positions so no pressure on him.Griezmann’s situation might be described as a flop. For me and many others he was/is the wrong player for Messi.”

    Exactly what am saying, you dont judge a player by his first season.

    Hazard hardly performed in games he played, but nobody is writing him off.

    Joao Felix, had a stable worldclass manager and a solid team and didnt perform.. The only player at Atletico competing with him is a Defensive Midfielder LLorente.

    How is Pepe playing under 3 managers not comparable?

  32. Habesha Gooner

    The Backpass
    I actually like coutinho. I think he can be great for us. But we won’t have him the next season if he has as good a season with us as we hope. It’s not because he is 28. And I don’t like the Idea of loaning two starters in our midfield with ceballos also on loan. It will be like rebuilding the midfield again next summer if we won’t sign both. I like fekir because eventhough he is 27, he will join us permanently. And added to that coutinhos massive loan fee and wages it feels like we aren’t actually thinking about the future. But if he comes anyway I will be happy and support him eventhough there is value and stability else where.

  33. London gunner

    Liverpool passed on fekir coz he failed a medical.

    Maybe that knee is a ticking time bomb did his injury affect his pace/performance levels?

  34. The backpass

    WE

    “Hazard’s started just 14 matches in La Liga because of injuries, bit early to say he’s been a flop. Next season will be the”

    Exactly, we need to give new signings more than one season before writing them off.

  35. WengerEagle

    LG

    He’s had a good year in Spain and is still putting up very good dribbler/take on numbers.

    He went there for under 30m, Betis finished in the bottom half of the table.

    If we offer anything north of 20m I reckon he’d be ours, could be an inspired bargain.

  36. The backpass

    “Moves like that will require outgoing business though, I’m talking Laca, Guen, Torreira, Nelson, AMN, Holding. To boost the coffers or in swaps.”

    True, but hard in this condition.

    Fulham vs Cardiff, Lovely second half so far.

  37. Gentlebris

    Buendia what?

    The dude may have some talent, but he’s yet to be proven under the elite pressure.

    He may turn out good or fall to pieces under elite pressure. Next season makes it 4 seasons without CL, we have no time for fanciful experiments.

    Get some money somehow and bring in Zaha, Coutinho and Partey, those three should at least get 4th.

    We have no time to be smart. Just wind the market and get those deals done.

    Maybe a good time to have super agents as family.

  38. Radio Raheem

    Backpass

    Atletico have more quality players in those forward positions than Arsenal. So no pressure on Felix unlike Arsenal.

    Joao Felix is 19 and bought for the future (medium and long term) , Pepe is 25 and bought for now (and future) .

    Llorente has been successfully converted to an attacking player so much so he’ll be ahead of more established attacking players for Spain’s NT.

  39. WengerEagle

    Lauren was top qualidee and took a mean PK but he benefited from being in a much better and more defensively sound side than Sagna did.

    Sagna for my money was pound for pound a better fullback.

  40. The backpass

    Habesha

    Ceballos, I believe will be an obligation to buy.

    Bayern paid €8 million for Coutinho last summer and will be lower this year.

  41. Ishola70

    You guys do realise if Ceballos extends his loan into next season then that means no Partey right?

    Ceballos is being championed now as a deep lying midfielder.

  42. The backpass

    Ishola

    “You guys do realise if Ceballos extends his loan into next season then that means no Partey right?”

    No offense, but how do you know this?

  43. Ishola70

    In fact I just don’t see how Partey works when Xhaka and Ceballos are around.

    Partey is foremost a DM. He must play at the base if he is signed.

    If Partey is signed there will be a restructuring of the midfield of sorts but seems like it is all just hot air when Xhaka and Ceballos are about. Not going to happen.

  44. Champagne Charlie

    Habesha

    So Coutinho is 3 mil more in loan fee and 150k per week in wages over Ceballos? (If his Bayern deal was replicated here, nvm talk of a pay cut)

    Interesting that Ceballos doesn’t fall foul of the loan criticisms.

  45. Un na naai

    That’s why he was bought, and that’s the role afforded to him. How much he lived up to that was there to see for any fan this season, he’s not looked a 70 mil player at any stage. Nvm consistency which nobody would’ve expected off the rip, but he’s not delivered nearly enough to warrant the fee/hype. Though apparently that’s a taboo assessment of his season, and not at all objective. Very good.

    Jesus charlie
    You’re like a dog with a bone. What does it matter what the club paid for him? It’s already universally agreed that Arsenal overpaid and that really can’t/shouldn’t be held against the player himself

    What matters is what he does on the pitch
    And while he’s not performed to the levels of a £72m player, Coutinho hasn’t exactly performed like a £140m player and you’re balls deep in him. He’s not doing what he was brought to do really now is he? 5 goals here, 9 assists there bla bla, good game vs spurs blabla
    He’s offering similar numbers too in a team that’s crushing it in a league of one

    You can cite transfer fees and compare him to Mané and salah all you want but when you break it down he’s had a better first season in England than Mané salah Freddie Pires and Coutinho in terms of numbers in a team with 3 managers, playing negative kick and run football on his todd with his hand in the air.
    Most of his goals have been solo efforts with piss all assistance
    He’s the only player we have that’s scores goals from nothing and next season we will really see what he’s made of

    Really the better comparison is zaha
    £80m
    Been in the league his whole career, so well adapted.
    Plays in a system geared around him and offers lesser numbers than pepe

  46. Champagne Charlie

    “No offense, but how do you know this?“

    Don’t give him oxygen, he’s looking for a way in to make it about Xhaka.

  47. Champagne Charlie

    Un

    I’m like a dog with a bone yet here you are chapter and verse because someone has labelled Pepe’s debut season “underwhelming”.

    Now money is irrelevant? Give it a rest

  48. The backpass

    Ishola

    You actually believe the three will start at once? I doubt it.

    I believe the three in midfield will be Coutinho or whoever they get, Ceballos and Partey.

    Coutinho. ceballos
    Partey.

  49. Habesha Gooner

    CC
    In total Ceballos costs around 7.7 mil for a season. That’s paying a player around 160k if it was our player without a transfer fee. While coutinho costs 7 mil in loan fee 13 mil in wages.
    which comes to around 20 mil. It will be like paying Ozils wages for coutinho including the loan fee. That’s why I think it’s too much.

  50. Champagne Charlie

    “It will be either Xhaka Partey or Ceballos Partey midfield with whoever CAM we bring in. Xhaka and Ceballos will be in competition. Let the best man win.“

    Exactly, heaven forbid we have midfield options at the club.

  51. Radio Raheem

    Backpass

    Fair enough, but it’s ok to say Pepe hasn’t lived up to expectations and that we expect more from him next season.

  52. Habesha Gooner

    CC
    Coutinhos total cost will be 2.5 times Ceballos’s loan fee. It’s nothing against coutinho but a club cash strapped as is shouldn’t waste resources like that.

  53. Un na naai

    Its irrelevant to the argument of a young man adapting to a new everything and the situation he’s been in. You defend David Luiz’s constant fuck ups and cite emery’s system and the constant upheaval yet no such tolerance is afforded to Pepe who’s in his first season in England.

    Let me repeat, he’s outperformed salah, mane, Coutinho, Pires and Freddie F too.
    The lad is feeding off scraps in the team this season and is still our second highest assist maker with 9 goals.

  54. Pierre

    Marc
    “Well for an awful lot on here it’s about point scoring and being able to say “I was right”

    It doesn’t really apply to you does it , as you are rarely ( if ever) right.

  55. Ishola70

    Well let’s see if Granit is ousted from his first team spot shall we.

    It would be refreshing to see him having to fight for his place and have genuine competition if Partey comes but I would always have reservations when it comes to Xhaka and him being under threat for his first team place. Never happened.

  56. Un na naai

    Ishola70July 30, 2020 20:37:47
    You guys do realise if Ceballos extends his loan into next season then that means no Partey right?

    Does it? Says who?

  57. The backpass

    RR

    “BackpassFair enough, but it’s ok to say Pepe hasn’t lived up to expectations and that we expect more from him next season.”

    Definitely, no argument from me.

  58. The backpass

    Ishola

    “the backpass thinks Coutinho is done eh”

    Funny, I thought you read this.

    “I believe the three in midfield will be Coutinho or whoever they get, Ceballos and Partey.”

    Note the Coutinho or whoever they get. I know you read that but that doesn’t fit whatever you’ve made up eh.

  59. Un na naai

    PierreJuly 30, 2020 20:54:08
    Marc
    “Well for an awful lot on here it’s about point scoring and being able to say “I was right”It doesn’t really apply to you does it , as you are rarely ( if ever) right.

    😂
    Oooooo burn

  60. Champagne Charlie

    AMN would be a good start as a sale, the club needs to take a really emotionless stance with players that haven’t been relied upon this past season and a half.

    AMN, Holding, Chambers, Torreira, Kola, Nelson should all be sold if there’s suitors.

  61. Un na naai

    RedtruthJuly 30, 2020 21:02:51
    Aubameyang manages to find the net despite living off scraps do why can’t Pepe.

    1) Aubameyang is supported by Tierney or Saka in the overlap allowing him to get inside the box more, for obvious reasons

    2) Aubameyang does little else but get in the box and score

    3) Pepe is asked to hug the other touchline to create width and when supported by ozil or AMN has shone but is largely left alone with defenders doubling up on him almost constantly. When he’s supported he can isolate opponents and work the ball into his left foot.

  62. Un na naai

    David Luiz should have been first out the door. Instead he got an extension. Whilst handing games to spurs (with his side kick kolasinac ) and city.

  63. Ishola70

    Well Partey and Xhaka won’t be a good fit.

    If Partey comes in he really must play at the base and the reason why Partey would be considered as a good signing by some is that he could do that role more on his own rather than have support deeper that we have seen in this team previously

    An article recently posted here actually gave the suggestion that two attacking midfielders could operate from Partey deep.

    Partey – Ceballos is more passable.

  64. Marko

    Charlie I absolutely agree we need to be more ruthless with players but I think you missed Lacazette and Xhaka off your list sir

  65. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    Yea, I didn’t. I listed players that haven’t played for us and offer little in terms of playing time.

  66. Big Perm

    WE
    Sagna for my money was pound for pound a better fullback.

    Sorry WE you talk a lot of sense on here but you must not have seen much of Lauren to say Sagna was a better fullback.

    I’d go as far to say he was our best right back ever. Amazing temperament, class going forward, rarely beaten one on one, strong in the tackle and knew how to defend and didn’t take any shit.

    Sagna was really solid and was a great defender but was only good going one way. Was a decent threat in the air too.

  67. Northbanker

    Un mate – good incisive stuff but you’re wasting your breath with the last -match-only-considered thick shits on here

  68. Ishola70

    Ceballos is being praised for his deep lying midfield play.

    If Partey arrives there will be not be such a need for Ceballos’ deep lying play.

    That’s why some may have suspicions if Ceballos extends.

    Those suspicions being that we continue to see the Xhaka and Ceballos deep lying playing show and no Partey to the party.

  69. Marko

    Yea, I didn’t. I listed players that haven’t played for us and offer little in terms of playing time.

    So you’re not taking a ruthless stance. Can’t believe you talk about being emotionless when addressing sales to raise the budget and benefit the club and you don’t mention the underperforming 50 million pound striker running down his contract or the error prone midfielder who’s stank up the place the last 4 years.

  70. Ishola70

    Don

    There is no point talking about midfield threes unless they work and compliment each other.

    You tell me how Xhaka – Partey works.

  71. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    Because I have a view that the club should sell players that haven’t/don’t offer much.

    I’ve no issue with any player being sold, literally any of them. But it makes more sense to me to lose Torreira who isn’t built for Arteta football, or AMN who has bear rly kicked a ball, than Xhaka or Laca who have been in the first XI.

    Can we not go down that hole again? It’s fucking tedious watching you make asinine remarks about players you don’t rate and pay absolutely no attention to points raised.

  72. The backpass

    Ishola

    Arteta said of his fellow Spaniard: “Dani is someone who has the ability to play further up, for sure.

    “But with the needs that we have at the moment and the way that he helps us join the lines together, to make us more stable with the ball, we have to use him there.”

  73. Northbanker

    Whilst in general i believe the Dortmund model is where we need to go I do think that if we actually sign Coutinho it could be a Bergkamp moment. A top top player out of favour But who needs to be loved with superb skills as a deep playmaker. All depends on the price. The upside is he isn’t afraid of flying!

  74. Marko

    than Xhaka or Laca who have been in the first XI.

    So because someone is in the starting 11 that’s enough to survive being sold to raise funds. What if they’ve been underperforming what if they’ve been part of the reason for the declining performances over the last few years. I mean Lacazette doesn’t perform consistently or score enough for us to ignore the potential fee he could bring in. But apparently he doesn’t fit into your list despite you being okay with selling anyone

  75. Ishola70

    backpass

    Arteta can say what he wants.

    People have been raving about Ceballos in his more deep lying role since lockdown.

    He was mediocre before the lockdown not playing this more obvious deeper role.

  76. The backpass

    Ishola

    “You tell me how Xhaka – Partey works.”

    Partey is not just your typical DM, he is a more refined ceballos, ability to beat a press. A progressive midfielder, not your Fabinho type more of a Kroos type of player.

  77. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    You’ve literally just proven my point, it’s tragic.

    Just said I’d sell anyone, but I’d lead with those that have given us next to nothing or don’t fit. Doesn’t get simpler than that.

  78. Northbanker

    I would certainly sell Laca and Torreira but in fact would keep AMN. i still think he can make the RB role his. Potentially so much better than Bellerin and Cedric – a powerful player who can still improve. Don’t see that from either of the other 2 so I’d flip Cedric and sell Hector asap.

  79. The backpass

    Ishola

    ” People have been raving about Ceballos in his more deep lying role since lockdown.He was mediocre before the lockdown not playing this more obvious deeper role”

    This is his first season FFS, Arteta says he see him slightly ahead, you don’t know what he sees.

    Don’t you think Ceballos can play as an 8 not a 10..

  80. Ishola70

    backpass

    So you are telling me Partey- Xhaka works.

    So what’s your plan?

    Partey roams forward leaving Xhaka to clear up offensive plays?

    Partey has played 35 la liga games this season with zero assists.

    He is primarily a DM however much you want to paint more complete midfielder.

  81. Ishola70

    What is the point of signing Partey if he is not played at the base of the midfield?

    What is the point?

  82. The backpass

    Ishola

    Does Ceballos and Xhaka work?

    Is it a crime to have Xhaka or whoever rotating? You know we are allowed to have sub’s right?

  83. Ishola70

    The backpass
    “Does Ceballos and Xhaka work?”

    Only to an extent.

    You have quoted me Arteta saying that Ceballos needs to play deep in this side at this time.

    Why does he need to play deep?

  84. The backpass

    Ishola

    “He is primarily a DM however much you want to paint more complete midfielder”

    Jesus Christ!!!! I never said that, I said he is much more similar to Kroos than to fabinho. You are a funny character man.

  85. Marko

    Yeah I get that Charles but if raising money through sales is the idea then how can you omit the 50 million pound striker who doesn’t score enough and whose contract runs out the end of next season. It makes no sense. But hey that’s just me

  86. Ishola70

    backpass

    If Partey is signed he plays at the base of the midfield.

    To not do that is nonsensical.

    He then becomes our DM in this side.

  87. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    It makes clear and obvious sense because I laid out exactly why: I’d firstly sell players that haven’t contributed over those that have.

    It’s just you being a fucking idiot on the matter as per usual.

  88. The backpass

    Ishola

    You are actually spinning all this things just to get to one point. Xhaka

    Say it, no need to feel guilty, say what is really on your mind, stop going in circles.

    You’ve asked me before and I’ve told you Partey, ceballos and a more creative midfielder a la Coutinho, Szobozlai.

    Is the concept of bench Alien to you?

  89. Ishola70

    backpass

    I can’t see Xhaka being dropped from the first team hence no Partey.

    And Ceballos extends and continues his deeper lying role alongside Xhaka.

    Hope I’m wrong of course.

  90. The backpass

    CC

    “Told you it was a Xhaka convo being begged from you, enjoy.”

    I jumped right into it.. He is very clever though.

    He basically started with the notion of Ceballos on loan, effectively means we aren’t getting Party just to get to a single point… Xhaka.

  91. The backpass

    Ishola

    You said Ceballos and Xhaka works only to an extent.

    Partey can effectively do what Ceballos & Xhaka does and more.

    I’m not under any illusion that Xhaka wouldn’t start our opening match next season but I expect him to be phased out for better players sooner.

    There would be Matches Xhaka Partey and the attacking midfielder would start and some ceballos Partey/AM would start.

    For atletico, Koke/saul and Partey do move up for one another depending on which of Koke/Saul plays on the wing.

  92. Ishola70

    backpass

    “I’m not under any illusion that Xhaka wouldn’t start our opening match next season but I expect him to be phased out for better players sooner.”

    Good luck with that.

    We are still well in the “Xhaka years” at Arsenal and all the glory it has brought thus far.

    But you’re on the button in regards phasing out Xhaka sooner rather than later and the Partey signing would be the perfect time to carry that out.

    Alas I think it is a forlorn hope.

    Pray with me.

  93. The backpass

    Ishola

    “But you’re on the button in regards phasing out Xhaka sooner rather than later and the Partey signing would be the perfect time to carry that out.”

    I hope Arteta having been at city would know a player like him needs to be improved on.

  94. Valentin

    Please no John Stones.
    Why are we focusing so much on ball playing defenders who can’t defend and don’t smell danger beforehand.
    Even Guardiola has given up on John Stones and that is after spending a fortune and time on him. If Arteta thinks that he can extract better performance from John Stones that Guardiola can, he is really deluded.

  95. Radio Raheem

    I like Ndombele I’m surprised it hasn’t worked out for him. Actually, I’m not it’s Jose.

  96. azed

    “Arsenal interest in John Stones for 20 mil according to Charles Watts”

    Are we trying to amass the largest collection of defenders that can’t actually defend?

  97. Trap

    Rac1 stating coutinho wages to be split with Barca paying half his wages
    Barca fans are going mad right now

  98. Overmars

    The talk today was Ceballos loan extension, and Coutinho on loan with a wage-split with Barcelona.

    Fantastic business at the start of the window if that’s the case

  99. David Smith

    Spurs were reportedly one of the clubs who used their influence to help derail the Saudis bid for Newcastle, hopefully they wouldn’t be sufficiently hypocritical to sell out to them, but you never know in this game .
    But from all I have read and listened to,, it was the piracy issue that stopped things, that, and the bidders refusing to answer key questions of ownership, though I am sure mike Ashley and the Premier league will take the blame in the north east

  100. Samir

    If we end up with Stones for 20M. What a shambles of a club. We already have Chambers and Holding. No more British dross please.

  101. CaliGooner

    I like chambers it’s too bad he got hurt. He also gives some flexibility with playing different positions

  102. Bojangles

    “I’m starting to get excited, I hope you are too.”

    Sorry Pedro, nothing in that post excites me. Zaha to Arsenal gets a big no from me unless it’s a swap deal. Any monies being considered would be a waste of our supposedly meagre funds when we have greater needs in midfield and defence.

  103. China1

    Ishola xhaka is unlikely to get replaced in the starting 11 imo because Arteta *really* likes him

    I will honestly be very surprised if xhaka isn’t starting 75% of our PL games next season.

    Doesn’t seem to matter if he’s average. It is what it is. He’s going to play out his whole career here. Time to accept that his spare key thievery or blackmailing skill is next level 💩

    But I do find it amusing that Charlie is unimpressed by Pepe so far but was not critical of xhaka after his first season despite at that time 35m bring a very large chunk of change of a player who played horribly for years and is just now coming ‘good’ as average.

  104. James wood

    Up early again huge back pain.
    Going private next Wednesday.
    NHS is closed for acute pain 😞,

    However Going through Arsenal
    improvement blog and a player I
    really like I put forward .

    Soyuncu towards our defence..
    A player who reads the game really well
    and I think would make a good Captain.
    The guy has something about him.
    Aged 22 ——dig deep Arsenal.

  105. CaliGooner

    Why would Everton sell? We had our chance to buy him and passed. Also what do we offer that Everton doesn’t? We are the two worst run clubs in the prem.

  106. Zacharse

    Thats just funny man. Only reason he wouldnt come to arsenal would be if everton offered him a nailed on starting position and we didnt which isnt the case. Doubt hes leaving leicester

  107. Leftfootcurler

    Pepe this season played at a worse level than Mkhi and Iwobi last season.

    His problem is his off the ball positioning and movement.
    If he improves that then he becomes world class.
    His on the ball quality is world class.
    Just needs to improve off the ball to become the Salah/Mane/Sterling type player.
    He is either a late bloomer or a brain dead player.
    I haven’t called him brain dead yet because he was a GK till age 14, 1st professional season at 19….I just think he is a bit of a late bloomer.

    Arteta is a top class coach,so he has the right person to get him to improve.
    Its all about his mentality,dedication,concentration and intelligence.

  108. Leftfootcurler

    Since we have financial issues,then try to buy only 2 players. Attacking midfielder and central midfielder.

    Buy the highest quality we can afford in these positions rather than buying average players but in 4 different positions.

    Try to sell laca and buy Haller.

  109. Sid

    We are playing with two mindfielders, one rarely goes past the halfway line, so does the right wingback, our CBs see more of the ball than our midfielders
    This means our attackers are working on scraps.

  110. Sid

    It hasnt worked out for Ndombele because of Mourinho according to some posters.

    Question is, has it worked out for Pepe? If it hasnt who is the manager to blame?

    I take this opportunity to congratulate the manager for rejuvenating Xhakalson and Mustafinovs.

    If Emery is to blame for Ozils performances, now that he is gone, who is to blame that he isnt in the team?

    Back to you in the studio!

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