Thomas Partey rumours will NOT die (still no money though)

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OUR SUMMER IS GOING TO BE THIS:

ARSENAL OFFER <LESS THAN ASKING PRICE> TO ATLETI

ATLETI SAY NO

ARSENAL OFFER <SLIGHTLY MORE THAN PREVIOUS FAILED BID> TO ATLETI

ATLETI SAY NO

ARSENAL OFFER <SLIGHTLY MORE THAN PREVIOUS FAILED BID> TO ATLETI

… and so on.

It seems that we’ve offered them the deal I suggested a few weeks ago… they get an u20 French midfielder + some money. That is not tickling Simeone.

Remember though, Atleti is in deep shit on the money front. They used one of those fancy lending firms that ‘ease cashflow in football’ to fund a bunch of their deals, now they are drowning in shit. They likely want the £50m because that’ll help ease their €500 million debt burden. They’ll also want to save face, a bit like Palace last season with Zaha (lol).

I have no idea if they’ll do a deal with us, but it might be easier for them than forking out a double-your-salary deal for the Ghanaian.

Talks seem to be gathering pace that Dani Ceballos has no chance under Zidane next season, and he’s believed to be keen to join Arsenal for another year, when it is hoped Arsenal might be able to muster the funds to buy him. That works for me, he’s been a revelation since he returned from the breaks. He’s an all-action player that needs to work on his final ball, but it certainly looks like he could be capable of growing into that role in the double pivot. He might looks quite good next to someone like Partey.

ESR is 20! Happy Birthday, let’s hope he lands some minutes next year, the hopes are VERY high for him.

The Coutinho and Willian rumours continue to stink out the internet, I really think you need to brace for impact there. I think at least one of the players will end up at Arsenal next season. No offence to the player, who I think is decent, but the deal will just double down on two things.

  1. Raul doesn’t learn from his mistakes
  2. Leadership at Arsenal is a touch bland
  3. Raul and Edu do not care one jot that the English press is scrutinising their super-agent best friend deals

Edu really is embarrassing, brought in to be a fine smelling, very handsome, Invincible™-so-he-must-love-us cover to allow Raul to do whatever he pleases. It’s all super disappointing, but I won’t lose too much sleep over it until it happens. THEN I WILL NOT SLEEP AND I WILL RAGE.

David Ornstein says we’ll hear offers for Reiss, Sokratis, Holding, Guen, Torreira, and Mustafi. To be honest, I think we’d listen to offers for most of our players. There aren’t many that are indispensable.

Man, I’m depressing myself out here. A short one today, listen to my LATEST podcast with an actual person this week. Then tomorrow, we start talking FA CUP FINAL WOOO YES HIT ME WITH THE JOY BATON! No, that sounds weird. Inject joy into my veins? No… just, you know, show up tomorrow and we’ll have lovely post for you.

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Sid

Emile Smith Rowesicknote will be fit for the same number if fames as Ozil

Im telling you for free!

Marko

Marc for the price that you would likely be looking at for Zaha you could get two players that we should be looking at signing instead. It’s that simple. Even talk of him being available for 40 million it sounds great in theory but when you hear Szoboszlai has a 22 million euros release clause and Gabriel of Lille could be going for about 25 million it looks a silly deal that Zaha one.

Marko

Marko, it’s because I hear things before you do.

What? Oh about Edu? Well with all due respect your views on him and the management at Arsenal are pretty much set and there’ll be no changing that. I’m more interested in actions and not words or rumours and with that in mind given its Edu’s first summer in charge of transfers I’m going to hold off on whether or not his head should be on the chopping block.

Batistuta

Dissenter

What club in the world would pay 25 million for a player on loan? Aren’t you exaggerating that a bit

Marko

What club in the world would pay 25 million for a player on loan? Aren’t you exaggerating that a bit

He always does man. His Bayern loan fee is about 7/8 million with an option to buy and now a year later and with Barca desperate for him to go and also lowering his value we’re to believe that a loan fee has gone up exponentially? Nope not buying it it’s more hysteria that’s all

Batistuta

Un na But the Coutinho thing would be just a year loan wouldn’t it? We have ESR coming back and hopefully we secure Europe this weekend and the lad has enough time to not just impress but also learn if you will. We could pick up a Coutinho on loan for less than 5 million and then sign a Partey and instantly out midfield is better for it and so is the attack if you will. We don’t have the money apparently to sign any of the upcoming youngsters for that position so I’d be more inclined to pick up… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

“Ok Coutinho COULD work but the chances are slimmer than a younger, more long term investment with resale value
It’s not smart“

Is it smart to ignore the fact we finished 8th this season and have a glaring imbalance in CM?

You keep preaching about “long term”, but just how fucking long term are you going that a 28 year old player isn’t a contributor? Makes no sense at all.

“Coutinho has more chance of going the way of ozil”

Based on what?

andy1886

Marc, word is Palace want £40m, which probably means they would take £30-£35m. That ship may have sailed though, we have other priorities. Coutinho? Doesn’t matter how good he still is (or isn’t) if we don’t get him some decent support. Can you imagine him getting the ball and being surrounded by three or four opponents and no-one to give the ball to? That’s our midfield right now. I’d rather have someone who can carry the ball and release it to our forwards around our opponents box. We lack strength and energy more than anything in the middle of the… Read more »

Marko

Difference between buying and loaning a player.

Batistuta

Marko

Yea a 6/7 million loan fee wouldn’t be the end of the world really, truth is he instantly improves out midfield and if we can get him and find some change to bring in Partey, I’d be quite happy with that

Marko

I wouldn’t categorize Coutinho with regards to anything related to Ozil. Even a loan considered to be underwhelming (by some) he managed better production than Ozil in the last two seasons.

andy1886

BTW Coutinho would be something like £250k a week that’s £13m a year plus £7m/£8m loan fee plus whatever other fees are involved (agents etc.). That’s easily £20m total which is most of our alleged budget. No thanks.

Marko

Bati it’s simple we need players that improve us this summer that’s different than anything we’ve got right now and someone who Mikel can work with. The things that Coutinho can do we don’t have anyone that can do that and he’s affordable. Sure there’s others that I would prefer but I would take him at that price if it meant we could still improve in other areas.

Uwot?

A poor transfer window this summer & I can see the #we care do you?Raising its head v.soon.Not a dickie bird coming out of the Yankee mouths either.

andy1886

Add Partey to the mix then that’s £20m on Coutinho (loan) plus £50m on Partey (transfer fee, agent costs, plus wages). Does anyone really think that we’ve got £70m laying around?

Left testicle

Yeah, Pedro knows more than us.
Know your place, you plebs.

Marko

Andy if we’re adding in wages and agent fees to every deal we do compared to our budget then we’d only ever sign one player every summer. Besides no one knows what our budget is going to be it certainly isn’t going to be 30 million.

Marc

Pedro

So we’re going to start unloading the likes of Nelson, Nketiah, Willock etc?

Personally I’m not over struck on Zaha anyway – think he’s over rated and over priced so would prefer other options anyway.

Marc

Marko

“Besides no one knows what our budget is going to be it certainly isn’t going to be 30 million.”

Why not? Do the math on where we could be financially in a few days.

Marko

Who is this Carvajal you keep mentioning Don?

Marc

Pedro

I can’t see us paying that sort of loan fee at the moment – we just don’t have the money.

Everyone seems convinced we’re going to see a repeat of last summer spending wise – I don’t think we will and if we miss out of EL football it could get much worse.

Marko

Why not? Do the math on where we could be financially in a few days. Doesn’t matter. Pick anything you want billionaire owner 3 billion pound club or a new manager whose comments recently suggest that promises have been made. I just don’t see it being a 30 million budget besides that the reporter who said that said could be and it might be more if they win the Fa cup and make Europe and blah blah blah he was plucking the figure out of his arse. Same with last summer and look what we did. Certainly there’s going to… Read more »

andy1886

Pedro, only a complete moron would pay that. Raul may be dodgy but he isn’t stupid.

Marc, it’s either a low key window or if we win on Saturday we might do a modest amount of business. There’s no point in going on about who we can sell and what we can sell them for when most of the players we would be glad to get rid of couldn’t be given away.

Sid

Nelson is average

Champagne Charlie

“Because he has no resale value We aren’t in a position to keep signing players for big fuck off sums and thats what he will be, without being able to offload them wether it goes well or not.“ Thought you didn’t want him because he was a loan and not a long term deal like Partey? Now it’s because he’s a fuck off amount we won’t be able to shift? Get the story straight mate. Arsenal need creativity in midfield for next season, name me the players that are going to provide that quality immediately AND have resale value, AND… Read more »

Jamie

Dissenter exaggerating? Get outta town!

Marc

Pedro

The squad needs some major surgery no argument there. Problem is the COVID situation means nearly all clubs are going to be short of money compared to a “normal” summer so unloading some of the players we need to won’t be easy.

Champagne Charlie

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/49392631

“Barcelona say the German side will pay 8.5m euros (£7.78m) to take the Brazilian, 27, on loan while the option to buy stands at 120m euros (£109.84m).

Bayern will also pay Coutinho’s wages for the duration of the loan spell.“

Please can people stop using gossip rag bullshit as fluff to support their view. Arsenal are going to pay 27 mil for Coutinho when Bayern paid 8.5 mil?

Yes, I’m sure we are. I blame Kia right?

Marc

Marko

“Doesn’t matter” I think you’ll find it does. Normally a ST comes with 26 matches on it – 19 PL matches and 7 cup credits for FA and European matches.

Give me an educated guess how many matches will be on my ST when the club offer it?

Champagne Charlie

“Problem is the COVID situation means nearly all clubs are going to be short of money compared to a “normal” summer so unloading some of the players we need to won’t be easy.“

That’s why swapsies is going to be a real trend apparently, and also why domestic talent could be more our pool given the players we have to offer won’t want to leave the UK.

Deals like Zaha become Holding plus Nelson sort of affairs, which are messy with so many moving parts.

Marko

I heard it’s a 50 million loan fee with Kia pocketing 49 million of it…

Marc

Marko

That’s only the part of it that’ll be announced to the public – I hear the total is closer to £250 million.

Champagne Charlie

“As first reported by ESPN and since confirmed by Goal, informal discussions have taken place over the 28-year-old Porto star, Danilo Pereira, although no offer has been made.”

Uff, can’t say I’m a fan in the limited games I’ve seen him play. Seems like a sizeable step down as a Partey alternative.

Marko

Marc I have no idea. I’ve also got no idea of what the actual budget is going to be and neither do you. But yeah 30 million for us while most of the big teams in Europe look like they’re gearing up for maybe not quite more of the same (outside of likely Chelsea and United) but still decent spending. I just don’t buy it it’s too speculative. Besides they’re planning on reintroducing fans in October right? Probably less in the stadiums and maybe at reduced prices but money is money

Josh

Why are people obsessed with re-sale value? You need top quality players aged 27-31 to compete at the top level and you have to accept when they come to the end of their deal they might not be worth much.

However, if they give you their peak years then it has to be worth it.

Look at the people deal….massively overpaid for an average player based on his “potential” given his age. Would love if he proves me wrong and we sell him to Real Madrid in 2 years for 100m…but highly unlikely.

DivineSherlock

I dont understand why people are averse on Coutinho . Is he not an improvement on every other CAM we have ? Do we not need a CAM ? A 1 year loan deal with option to buy wont hurt anyone . By that period we’ll have Saka + ESR learning from him. Wages is the only issue I see here that is a red flag.

Champagne Charlie

“There are cheaper players in Europe with better numbers, better mobility and better all round game play“

Go for it, unveil a handful that tick all the apparent boxes.

Saying Coutinho has “baggage” over and over doesn’t make it true btw. He’s not fit into a Messi Barcelona and Bayern don’t want to pay the money for him because they have other more pressing needs – but you conveniently omit the fact Bayern, after Barca, wanted Coutinho in the first place. Must have something in all that baggage he’s carrying.

Marko

Man City closing in on Ferran Torres for 22 million plus add ons. Great bit of business that. Jorge Mendes helping out…gasp

Marko

Any chance we can get Odegaard on loan instead of Sociedad?

Champagne Charlie

Pedro

Your Kia crusade is getting personal, bet he mugged you off in a hipster London restaurant a few years ago and you’re finally getting back at him for it.

Arsenal midfield is Xhaka and Ceballos with Willock and ESR to pad the numbers. Madness you’re going full tilt at Coutinho. If he lands here don’t you dare pump a fist when he scores a banger against a low block to win it.

Champagne Charlie

“I already have have“

Who?

Marc

Marko Our match day income is £100 million a year – we miss out of EL and the cup credits will have to drop by 4 or so tickets and then you’re hoping that we’ll have a good FA Cup run and be drawn at home in 3 of the 4 matches. ST Holders make up 40,000 of our capacity so if they decide to allow fans back into the ground at 50% that means that ST holders will miss a quarter of matches (how they’d sort the logistics will be a nightmare) so that’s another 5 tickets, you then… Read more »

Wasi

Un How can you advocate the signing of Depay after saying Coutinho could go Ozil’s way. Coutinho worked hard enough to get into a Klopp system so I don’t think there’s an attitude/ hard work issue there. + Coutinho on loan ( total package below 15m ) + option to buy at 50-60 m should be a good deal imo. This player is absolutely world class. If we make CL with Coutinho or get very close to it with Coutinho performing well , then we trigger thr clause or else we let him go. I very much appreciate the idea… Read more »

Valentin

Some still don’t understand basic economic reality. When buying or borrowing a player, you look at the overall cost versus the benefit. A player who cost £100 millions who give you goals, assists, commercial interest and has a resale value at the end of his contract may well be worth it. A £8 millions upfront fee player on extremely high wage for his talent who keep getting red card and giving away penalties is expensive. That’s why a €100 millions CR7 was a smart and relatively value for money for Juventus while a cheaper but poor David Luiz was an… Read more »

Jamie

“Allesandro Frappuccino”

This lad gets roasted on the regular. I’ve seen it.

Guns of SF

Val,

The Luiz deal is a real stinky fart that will linger in this club until he leaves. Kinda like and Ozil lite. However, Luiz does give some good performances here and there .. however, the deal makes no sense to many of us…

Valentin

Even before we look at the economic side of any deal, Arsenal should no near Countinho. Countinho is not a talentless player, however he is yesterday’s man. I see a talented player who does not fit today’s style of play. A regular No10 when clubs have abandoned the idea of a single central conductor. Moreover Countinho is not the kind of player who will help Arsenal reach top 4. What this team need is a quick agile central midfielder with steel and creativity. That’s not him. Countinho would play higher up. In 3-4-3, He will crowd the striker and leave… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

“So with wages we pay over £20m for one season for a guy that’s not been at his best for 3-4 seasons“ Hope the wages are getting used in every other transfer, seem to get picked up and put down when it suits that one. – 3 years ago: 17 games, 12 goals, 8 assists for Liverpool until Jan when he moved to Barca, then, 16 starts, 8 goals, 5 assists (Barca debut season) – Last season: 33 starts, 8 goals, 5 assists – This season: 20 starts, 9 goals, 8 assists Would have Coutinho not at his best everyday… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Pedro

Still one of the oddest football moments for me seeing Tevez and Mascherano holding West Ham shirts looking like they were 40 seconds out of a chloroform coma.

Marko

Marc everyone’s in the same boat with regards to gate revenue. Still isn’t going to stop teams from signing players so why should it stop us. Anyway try not to worry so much about it babe Mikel seems to think that he’s going to be backed so let’s just relax a bit

Marc

Marko

No we are more exposed than many other clubs because our match day income is a higher proportion of our revenue.

andy1886

Marc, throw in loss of TV money on top and you can see why the AST think we’re going to lose £100 -£150m all told. And some of these jokers think that we’re going to spend £60/£70/£100m against that backdrop. Chelsea are spending because they had a transfer ban and didn’t spend the £100m+ we did last summer. They’re also due a large wedge from AM for Costa, and sold Hazard previously. And they’ve got CL football of course. They could spend £150m and still be in better place than us. United are a money making machine even with COVID,… Read more »

Wasi

Un Fair point but if you want a surefire creativity solution , then I dont think many players can offer that who are available. Coutinho is someone who would definitely add 15+ G/A , possibly even more. If Arteta can bring the Coutinho out that starred in the world cup then 25 G/A wont be a problem either. Those goals could be make or break for our top 4 push. Auba will get 20 or above , Lacazette/Eddie / Nketiah might get around 12-15 , Pepe hopefully gets around 10. Other than that we dont have much goals in our… Read more »

Marc

SF

“The Luiz deal is a real stinky fart that will linger in this club until he leaves. ”

We as the original deal was only for one year this ones on Arteta.

Trap

Lol 😁 cuz must of you think coutinho is a bad idea doesn’t make it a bad idea.
Same Am who pulled trees in the epl to land himself a move to one of the biggest clubs in world football,isn’t quick and agile ?? Really argue about the fee not his output on the field he’s easily 20GA next season a real threat.

Marko

No we are more exposed than many other clubs because our match day income is a higher proportion of our revenue.

Compared to smaller clubs yes but compared to similar sized clubs no I don’t think so.

Jamie

“Yeah but he’s ice cool and great in european cups”

Ha, fair enough.

Marko

Marc, throw in loss of TV money on top and you can see why the AST think we’re going to lose £100 -£150m all told

What loss of TV money? We finished the season and next season is going to go ahead.

Marc

andy

I’m trying not to get too down on all this but I’ve got a really bad feeling about the Cup Final and with “second wave” outbreaks popping up all over the place we’re going to get badly fucked by all this and as you say people are arguing over which £50 million player we should buy?

The only real positive I can come up with at the moment is that I didn’t think we had a chance against Chelsea in 2017 so here’s hoping lightening strikes twice.

Jamie

My sources tell me Sullivan and Gold sent in the fluffers from their side hustle to get the Tevez/Masc deals done.

Habesha Gooner

Charlie
Nobody’s debating coutinhos merits. The numbers involved don’t make a whole lot of sense for us. Buendia from right wing assisted 7. He hasn’t scored enough but that is due to the quality of the side he is in and the chances his team mates were creating for him. He ranks in the top 10 for creating chances and Dribbling. He is also one of the most tackling CAMs you can find. Coutinho actually creates way less than Buendia. Coutinhos advantage is he shoots a lot. He is a goal threat. But he isn’t as good defensively.

Champagne Charlie

Un

Coutinho has had a shit time of it the last two seasons, that’s the point. You seem to have cropped out the season he was pulling strings though, wonder why…. *cough* 20 goals and 13 assistS in a calendar year from midfield *cough*

I gave you those numbers because you pulled an Ozil on him, which quite clearly doesn’t hold up. His performance levels haven’t matched his ability and that’s not a secret to anyone.

But you’re telling me Pepe was good this season on performance and output, so changing tune suddenly on Coutinho’s account? Poor.

andy1886

CC, given that those numbers are for a dominant BM side crushing the league as usual I wouldn’t use that as much of a benchmark for how he might do for a poor Arsenal side. He’d be lucky to get half that over here.

Guns of SF

Instead of the Audi options-
Coutinho
Partey

We can do with the Honda options
Beundia
Perreira

I dont really care, we just need to get in better players ( not hard to do) and get rid of the stinky fart ones

Habesha Gooner

And we are looking at the same price to have coutinho for a season and Buendia for a long term contract. Even at 50k he will be much cheaper. Buendia is Value and PL proven too. We will rue it if we miss out on him.

Marko

Marko, we’re more exposed to the pandemic because match day revenue, spending this summers money last summer, having a wage bill of 230m with no CL.

Agree with the wage bill part but to suggest that we’re going to be harder hit while other similar big clubs won’t be is ridiculous. But ah well we’ll see like I said before Mikel’s recent comments seem to suggest that promises have been made and are going to be kept this summer. Unless Arsenal have another yes man on their hands.

Marc

Marko

He’s talking about the loss of european football TV revenue.

DivineSherlock

Valentin

Your assertion is very wrong on Coutinho. He is not a yesterday’s man , he is a unique talent. If he can play in a Klopp system , he can definitely play in Arteta. Also Brazil NT check him out on that. He is not some no.10 like Ozil he is more of KDB with dribbles and assists if a World Class striker like Auba plays ahead of him .

Champagne Charlie

“given that those numbers are for a dominant BM side crushing the league as usual I wouldn’t use that as much of a benchmark for how he might do for a poor Arsenal side. He’d be lucky to get half that over here.“

It’s a trend in his career that he scores and assists, half his output would be 6x what our current midfield offers, you must appreciate that?

He’d not be starting 20 games here, it’d be nearer 45.

Marc

Marko

It’s not ridiculous match day revenue makes up a bigger proportion of our turnover than other clubs.

It’s pretty simple.

andy1886

Marko, the TV companies want money back on their deals, beIN and Sky for starters have said so that still hasn’t been resolved. Clubs have had the money up front, so this coming season’s payments will likely be adjusted accordingly. Why are they asking for money back even though games have been played? Because the ‘product’ is poor without fans at games, and they’ve been losing subscriptions. There’s likely to be more of the same next season with full crowds not back until at least 2021 or longer if there is another outbreak this winter.

andy1886

Our gate receipts were bigger than anyone’s bar ManU, and our commercials are terrible hence we take a bigger hit. There was a piece on it a few months back, only Spurs were estimated to take a bigger hit than us.

Trap

Ssme number of output as pepe on loan at Bayern in lesser appearances but he’s a flop over pepe 😂

Wasi

Un

Depay offers 20 ga from the striker position. So he would be a replacement / upgrade on Laca . Tho nobody knows how his second stint in the Prem will go. First one went awful.
We are talking about adding G/A from midfield.

Marko

It’s not ridiculous match day revenue makes up a bigger proportion of our turnover than other clubs.

Comparable to other clubs with similarly sized stadiums yes it is. But like I said numerous times let’s wait and see given Mikel’s comments recently it suggests that he’s been promised certain things this summer. Not like Arsenal fans to get all hysterical about speculative bollox from a journo right? Like last season only 40 million spent apparently

andy1886

This from the Guardian back in May: The Premier League’s clubs are set to lose between £300m and £350m in broadcast revenues even if they find a way to finish the season. The penalties will be due because they would not be able to fulfil particular obligations from their contracts with the TV companies. They involve the delivery of the product and, principally, the timing of it. The season would not be able to restart until mid-June, at best, meaning that the broadcasters’ preferred slots would have been missed. There is also the issue of how the matches would look… Read more »

Wasi

As for Luis Alberto , he is 27 , he might come good in PL , he might not.
And will definitely cost upwards of 45 mil albeit on lower wages.
Also he’s only had 2 good seasons in his career.
One in 17/18 and the current one .

Coutinho has been consistently world class for about 5-6 years
now.

Wasi

Un

Coutinho has been great for Bayern.
Only reason he is not in Playing is because they aren’t going to buy him and would rather focus on development of Goretzka as an attacking midfielder and Kimmich as Dm.
The assumption that Coutinho hasn’t performed well for Bayern holds no water.
Check the link I provided above

Wasi

Un

Depay produced good attacking numbers when Lyon started playing him up top. I think he plays LW too sometimes.

Anyways we are talking about midfield here , not forwards.
If we buy Depay it will be as a replacement for Laca/ Auba .He wont solve our creativity issue.

Marko

Marko, the TV companies want money back on their deals, beIN and Sky for starters have said so that still hasn’t been resolved

So he’s not talking about money made from European football Marc.

Why are they asking for money back even though games have been played? Because the ‘product’ is poor without fans at games, and they’ve been losing subscriptions.

I’m actually speechless

Trap

Wasi

8 goals and 5 assists in 20 starts is poor

andy1886

This on the BBC last month (Deloitte on deferred rebates to TV companies in 20/21 season): Premier League clubs face a £1bn reduction in their revenues in 2019-20 because of the coronavirus pandemic, says financial services firm Deloitte. The 20 English top-flight clubs had a combined revenue of more than £5bn for the first time in 2018-19. But this season has been on hold since March, and the 92 remaining matches will be held behind closed doors. And Deloitte’s Dan Jones expects “significant revenue reduction and operating losses” in European football. Deloitte says £500m of the reduction for Premier League… Read more »

luke

@Pedro – what’s up with Geoff these days mate? Any chance of a guest post sometime soon?

China1

From an entirely footballing perspective, Coutinho would be great news From a financial perspective it would probably be a ridiculously expensive loan for a player we will never have the money to buy who even if we did buy will probably being a depreciating asset financially from day 1. So if he comes I’ll be excited for the footballing benefits but this is not a fiscally intelligent or logical deal. We should be spending the same amount we’d have to pay on his loan for the next Coutinho… with appreciating resale value, reasonable wages, youth on his side and a… Read more »

Ishola70

Can’t see fans being allowed into grounds either until the winter has well and truly passed because of fears of this second wave of Corona.

So you are looking at spring next year at the earliest when fans will be allowed as previously.

Wasi

Un Dont think Lazio would sell for low after a 15 assist season. He’s doing it for Lazio (only recently) and thats the problem. The game in Italy is very slow as compared to Epl. Torreira looked like Kante in Serie A. He is just 1 year younger than Coutinho and he its not like he has been putting up world class numbers all his career. His goalscoring numbers dont even touch Coutinho’s. Cant get Caps for the National team. I’m not saying he is a bad player. He is just not Coutinho levels. And he cant guarantee solving our… Read more »

Dissenter

Batistuta,
​Bayern Munich will pay a total of €33.5m to Barcelona for the duration of Philippe Coutinho’s loan at the Allianz Arena.
Loan fee + wages
https://www.90min.com/posts/6497700-the-cost-of-philippe-coutinho-s-loan-move-from-barcelona-to-bayern-munich-revealed

Charlie
You didn ‘t read that article to the end
It cost Bayern about 33 million euros along with his wages.

Marko
Keep snapping away, at least get your facts lined up properly first.

Dissenter

Needless to say I left out the VAT in that quote 🙂 [only Marc will get this bit]

Dissenter

Coutinho’s salary is about 25 million euros p.a.
Let that sink in. I wonder how the squat who took a pay cut will feel about that.

Batistuta

Clubs are still spending though. Zenith just paid Pool what 10/11 million for Lovren. Chelsea have done good business at a decent output, United will and so Will City and even Spurs. Arsenal fans in my opinion are so caught up in the financials most times it’s bewildering. Don’t see any other fan base so into how much their club spends on transfers and matchday e.t.c. the way Arsenal fans do. Hopefully Arteta has a decent amount of money to spend coupled with outgoings. So far none of the big teams have made massive moves as of yet except the… Read more »

Dissenter

Unai na
I love how the Coutinho protagonists try to gloss over the financials
Bayern paid about 650k euros/ game for Coutinho last season. That just doesn’t make any sense for a club in our predicament. .