Arteta having a classic Wenger-week-in-Feb

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Well HOWDY GOOD MORNING TO YOU all.

This week is a bit of a lol right? It’s like a typical February post-2007. We’d be in every competition, performances might be creeking, but you’d be confident that THIS was the year. Then three games would creep up on us and we’d be out the league, Champions League and FA Cup in one week.

Arteta looks like he’s picking up a bit of that magic from his old boss. We lost the North London Derby, we’re about to get a light/heavy spanking from Liverpool, then we go to Wembley for an improbable semi-final.

It is what it is.

He seemed pretty upbeat in the press conference. Maybe he’s not reading the NO IMPROVEMENT merchants and he saw this comment from CC in the comments.

Here’s a a quick snippet of goals FOR and AGAINST we’ve seen throughout the season at different points….

Week 13 – Emery’s last game: 18, 19
Week 18 – Freddie’s last game: 24, 27
Week 35 – now: 51, 44

Which breaks down as…

Emery: 18, 19 (-1)
Freddie: 6, 8 (-2)
Arteta: 27, 17 (+7)

Or…

Emery: 1.38 goals per game, 1.46 goals against per game
Freddie: 1.2 goals per game, 1.6 goals against per game
Arteta: 1.59 goals per game, 1 goal against per game.

It’s late so sue me for any inaccuracies, but its pretty evident we’re scoring more and conceding less PER GAME with Arteta. Otherwise coined as ‘no improvement’.

Core themes in the presser remained that we played well but allowed mistakes to kill us. I think the fact we didn’t get battered and largely controlled the game is his solace, though tactically, it’s hard not to think that Mourinho giving you ball and waiting for mistakes is him controlling the game.

His other theme was about progressing the club forward. He’s very careful with his words, but he keeps reminding everyone that the reason Liverpool are where they are is they made consistently good decisions on players. They were strategic, smart, and they pushed the club forward.

‘Yeah. What they have done is phenomenal, obviously the first two years it took them some time to rebuild the squad and to create a new culture, a new philosophy and a game model that suited the coach. Then they started to recruit every single player in relation to what they needed and that’s where I think they were really smart. They bought with specificity for every position that was required. Financially they had a big backing and made some big signings which completely changed the club in my opinion.’

I think it’s fair to say that the first transfer window can be written off as a hangover from yesteryear. David Luiz and Cedric Soares weren’t my kind of deals, but you can rationalise why they happened because of the state of the squad and the lack of options. Moving into this summer, we can’t be topping up our squad with more players like that. We have to be strategic about who we sign and what the path forward is.

We don’t just want Champions League qualification, we want a squad that can grow into that competition and win it. I know that sounds mad, but you have to shoot for the stars. That means signing players that ‘might’ drag you over the top 4 line is a losing game (it’s also a game we’ve played for 3 years and it hasn’t worked). If this current squad gets us into the top 4 next season with the addition of Willian and some other players looking for a retirement fund, what happens next? They can’t sustain it. We can’t sell them. Our squad is worse off for it. That’s why the better bet would be to sign up players that have the pedigree to make Champions League, but could grow when we make it there.

The big dollars, if we have any, must go on the core this summer. We need a ball-playing centre-back, we need a #6 like Partey, and we need an #8 that is ready to roll. Then we need to upgrade with players that fit the Arteta mold.

We’re being linked with Marc Roca, I’m not shocked. Technical, creative and quick thinker. Our midfield doesn’t create without players like that. We don’t just need one player like that, we need to start building a conveyor belt of them.

Supporting Emery came at a great cost. We brought in someone without understanding what he wanted to do on the pitch, and because his hire wasn’t on merit, no one paid attention to what he wanted. Now we have a coach with a much clearer articulation of what he wants to do. I suspect he has more sway with the staff. He’s Edu’s hire. Hopefully that means something because another incoherent summer and we’re in big trouble. This is more on Klopp.

I know how many decisions have to be right and how much support you need from the club and the people around, and how much connection you to have to generate from your fans to have the full package, and afterwards it’s football. The context right now is different to what it was as well four years ago and the abilities for a club to rebuild something is more limited, but it’s certainly something we have to look at and how they did it because it’s a great example. But we have to know that we have to do it our way with our resources and have it in mind that the content right now is different, but we are heading to be the best and this is my only objective with this club. We have to find a way to do it.

The ambition is to be the best. Not Europa League winners. Not top 4. To get back to the very top. It’s an ambition right for Arsenal, the question is, can it be supported? We’ll find out.

To start, we have to navigate Liverpool at home who are on the charge for the Premier League points record. He was asked if he’d rest players so we had a better chance at the weekend.

I believe that it’s very important to have energy and momentum going into important matches, and in order to do that you have to go game by game. Today and tomorrow we will asses the players and how they are, and obviously they’ve been hit and a lot of them have played some crazy minutes up until now and again we’re going to have games every two and a half days. We will try to put the strongest team out as possible here and as well on Saturday, and to do that we need to know how everyone recovers from the game.

I think he’s desperate to turnover Liverpool. He needs a restart statement win and I’m not sure Wolves quite counts in his mind. I think the idea of Arsenal keeping their concentration for 90 minutes is quite hard to fathom, but we’ve seen crazier things. The weekend game is where it’s at, City have had plenty of bad days this season and their away record isn’t great. Making an FA Cup final would be a different kind of statement.

Let’s see what happens, have a great day.

P.S. Arteta’s opinions on City and FFP were factual but missed the point. City are where they are because they pump a nation’s cash into the project. That result was the final nail in the coffin for Fairplay in football. It also makes a mockery of Ivan G and Wenger telling us for 10 years that when the rules kicked in, we’d be positioned to take advantage.

Now it’s clear. You either have a sugar daddy, or you don’t. I think it’s bad for the game. Bayern don’t have a sugar daddy, but they are financially dominant and just won the league for the 8th year in a row. The Spanish League is fairly locked. Juventus always win in Italy. Paris will always win unless they rehire Emery. The only saving grace our league has is it’s basically 8 mega-rich owners slugging it out. Football isn’t fair and it’s getting more and more unfair. In the end, people will get bored if there isn’t a competition. We’re a way off that but it isn’t beyond the realms that people could lose interest.

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Mr Serge

I agree with Sid a great cam and DM will solve most of our issues look at Bruno for utd he has changed them from a joke to a top 4 team by himself in 6 months

Receding Hairline

And please stop telling me how I should support Arsenal. That’s insulting.

We played like a championship team and won and I should celebrate that as the reason why I support a team with a champions league wage bill? That’s nonsense.

We have played better, fought better, won better. Yesterday wasn’t memorable in anyway. Nor was it tactical as you claim.

Bojangles

After every match we play (especially if we win) someone comes out with “his big test comes…..” How many big tests does the man have to pass before he is accepted.

Calypso

DivineSherlick

I understand your point but didn’t we get smashed by Man City a few games ago.

Receding Hairline

Yes I would open my mouth wide too if I saw my two most expensive signings make school boy errors to gift opponents goals.

Dunno why I as an Arsenal fan should take solace from an open mouth

DivineSherlock

Receding

So you dont wanna celebrate this win because Emery played well that day and didnt win ?
I dont understand .
You remind us of that 22 game unbeaten run , what came after ?
Why didnt Emery the master coach build something from that ?
Why did we have the worst start in 38 years after the so called winning run ?

You know what I may not be Sherlock but it doesnt take a detective to know what youre doing .

DivineSherlock

Receding

Your excuses are getting poor . We played like championship team ? wow thats new. Look at Pl Table and tell me how many championship teams have beaten Liverpool this season . They have been defeated only 3 times now. Watford , City and Us. All these years you know we wouldve thrown the lead , Heck you wouldve been on here throwing that stat of giving away most points from winning positions if we had drawn/lost the game yesterday.

Bojangles

So Klopp wasn’t bothered by the loss, eh. His answer when questioned about his players mistakes he responded with

“Is someone surprised these boys [Alisson/Van Dijk] are humans? I am not. I need David Luiz? He’s signed a new contract, eh?”

Yep the “saucy” prick was wounded ok.

Kenyangunner

I can’t believe some people are comparing Pepe and Ozil.
I can remember Ozil having some good matches before he became a liability.
I have not seen anything from Pepe that would suggest he is worth 36M leave alone 72M!
He only flourished at Lille but has been a flop for Cotedvoire and Arsenal.

Ishola70

I’m getting a little concerned with Pepe’s character.

You can have all the talent in the world but if you can’t back it up with good character then it falls well short.

Character as well as talent is important in a player.

Bojangles

Arsenal are going to have to make a decision over Leno or Martinez. Martinez has already stated he wants 1st team football and Leno won’t settle for second place. Both are first team gk’s.

My preference is Martinez; he seems a little more realiable to me.

I have to say I’m now 100% behind arteta now. His comments last night were on point and he’s put pressure on the board and owner. At long last we have a manager who tells it how it is and I think it explains why he signed luiz, Mari etc. I think if he knew he had the money I honestly don’t think he would of signed these players. But it’s refreshing that he’s told the truth and put pressure on the board unlike wenger who was too busy collecting his salary and protecting Kroenke by pretending everything was dandy

DivineSherlock

Here is another stat .
Arsenal first 18 games : 27goals conceded.
Arsenal last 18 games : 18 goals conceded.

Ishola70

Bojangles

Leno will get back his first team spot back when Martinez makes a really big error.

May seem harsh because he has performed well overall but that’s the way it is with a No 1 and No 2 goalkeeper.

Martinez was close to making a really big error last night when his kick was blocked by Firmino and the ball hit the side of the post early in the match.

And I have to say he was right. You can make the players fitter and work harder, but if the talent isn’t their that’s not much more you can do with those players. And he’s come out and basically said you want top four you have to back me financially. For a rookie boss in his first managerial job that takes balls.

Calypso

Arsenal need to build on this win otherwise it will be all in vain.

Beating Man City will prove this victory was no fluke.

Mr Serge

Receding you really are a miserable git lol
We best Liverpool for the fist time in 5 years with a lot of younger players in the side and you are crying
You need to get s life and face reality that this is not an easy fix and it will take time,bit we are going the right way

Chill out ffs

David

The victory was kind of a fluke. It is unsustainable to face that much pressure, give up that much possession and chances against any team let alone a top team Calypso. More often than not, it will result in a loss.

That being said, I’m an Arsenal fan and I’m thrilled when we beat big sides however we do it. Our recent record against Liverpool doesn’t make pretty reading. On the other side I think they’ve only beat us at home three times in almost twenty years so we tend to do better against them at home obviously.

UTarse

Receding hairline, the most broken of all broken records.

Leftside

He has also played a significantly less amount of games too Un.

Leno was probably our best player this year which shows the kind of season we have had. Martinez has done well, exceeded my expectations but I think people are slightly hyperbolic when saying that Leno doesn’t get back into the side.

Martinez is there on merit now but as Ish says, all it takes is one error.

Ishola70

Don
“Leno has made more big errors in one game this season than Martinez has during his arsenal career”

Well Leno won’t get a clear run will he like he did before if he fucks up.

And if Martinez comes in a second time for him and not to due to injury then Leno should be worried then that he will no longer be seen as No.1

It’s a good thing to have healthy competition between the keepers.

Ishola70

As leftside has already said Don Martinez has played far less games than Leno.

If you rate Martinez higher than Leno now fair enough but the club won’t see Martinez as No.1 just yet.

Ishola70

Don

This isn’t about me rating Leno over Martinez.

It’s just that the club will still see Leno as No.1 at this point.

When Leno is fit to play he will have to wait for his chance. When Leno gets that chance he knows he has to perform or Martinez will be straight back in again and the second time Leno knows it gets more dangerous for him to be demoted from No.1

CG

Ishola “””””I’m getting a little concerned with Pepe’s character.””””””” 24 years of age. And still yet to play ONE champions league fixture. That’s all you need to know. And I doubt he will ever play one. A gratuitous signing by Raul- when we were well stocked with wide players and lacking elsewhere. The Clown wanted the aggressive and prem proven versatile Zaha ( correctly).But The Spiv because it was a good deal for him and his spivvy chums wanted Pepe. totally shocking, Arsenal best hope for next season and future ones. Is not Arteta coming good or Josh turning on… Read more »

Salman

Good Lord some of you guys are absolutely miserable in these comments. We just beat Liverpool for a change in years. Take a day or two to just enjoy the win no matter how we got it and relax.

prvhc

We’re a mid table team celebrating a fluky win against the Champions after being dominated at our own ground and gifted two goals.
That’s a fact

Ishola70

I like Martinez over Leno but that’s because I’m biased over a keeper being better aerially and I think if you are better aerially you give a nore calming infuence to the defence.

But of course Leno is the better with actual shot stopping.

Leno is like the modern keeper now because so many are very good shot stoppers but have question marks about them in other aspects. In the past there were far more keepers who were good aerially as well as being good shot stoppers. Both.

Jamie

Feeling great this morning! Helps that it’s my birthday, on the mimosas nice and early.

Have a good one, gents!

Ishola70

CG

“A gratuitous signing by Raul”

He does look like a bit of a suspect signing at this present time yes.

Northbanker

We will concede fewer goals with Martinez than with Leno. His demeanour and handling ability makes him our new no 1 on merit, whether an error is made or not.

MA isn’t going to be worried about a £20m price tag when he has shown he’s not worried about a £42m price (Ozil) or a £72m one with Pepe.

prvhc

Salman
Is we’d beaten Liverpool convincingly, even after accounting for the fact they were on holidays, I would’ve been happy.
If the result helped us in securing European places, I would’ve been ecstatic.
There was nothing to gain from the result or performance yesterday.
It was a mere 3-4 years ago that we could say Liverpool were our rivals. How did we fall so far behind so fast ?

Leftside

Happy Birthday Jamie

Ishola70

The thing with Leno is that he is excellent agility wise with his shot stopping but I don’t think overall his actual presence itself calms his defence in front of him.

prvhc

Don
You don’t defend ‘well’and concede 24 shots on goal.
That’s not an interpretation.Don’t post like a moron.
It’s because of such BS that this blog has lost all semblance of objectivity.

Ishola70

For me he is the better overall keeper for Arsenal at this time yes.

A weakness in Martinez though could be that he is a bit slow and not that agile when one on one with an attacker bearing down on him.

In that instance you would probably prefer Leno.

But overall Martinez for me.

Emiratesstroller

Un na naii

Let’s not have a discussion about goalkeepers at this point.

Frankly this is the one position in our team, which is the least of our worries.
Currently Martinez is the player who starts and frankly I have no qualms keeping him there.

A successful team needs two good gks on the books.

The only concern that I have about both keepers is their kicking and distribution if compared to some other keepers in EPL, but that is not for me a
major issue.

Frost

“we just beat Liverpool and you want to relitigate Emery,”

Errr not sure we getting a trophy for this pedders, also not sure how it moves arsenal forward looking at the performance. Wenger & Emery had their fair share of big scalp wins, they were still shit.

You know what would excite me tho? A good summer & a (at least) champions league run next season where I don’t have to jump over the moon when we beat one top team in a season.

Ishola70

ES

“The only concern that I have about both keepers is their kicking and distribution if compared to some other keepers in EPL, but that is not for me major issue.

No it shouldn’t be a major issue.

The overwhelming majority of keepers if not all make a hash of it on occasions when trying to play sweeper.

gnarleygeorge9

The Arsenal juggernaut is leaving the station, all aboard, next stop Wembley.

Calypso

Parking the bus is anti-football.
I’d rather lose than play like a relegated team.

prvhc

Frost
You’re making too much sense for your own good.

Emiratesstroller

In recent weeks there has been a considerable amount of criticism about Bellerin at RFB/RWB. Some want us to sell the player. First of all Bellerin was out of action for almost a full season so the idea that he will come back 100% playing fit is ridiculous. On the evidence of what I watched yesterday there is absolutely no evidence that Soares is an upgrade. I thought that his positional sense was poor and on the odd occasion that he travelled upfield there was nothing to suggest that he was better at beating his opponent or crossing the ball.… Read more »

UTarse

Ffs, let’s look at the facts that all Arsenal fans agree on : Do we have a decent squad ? NO Are we behind our main rivals ? Yes Will it take 2-3 years of a rebuild to compete at the top table ? Yes. So whether we played like a championship or relegated team or were lucky , whether we dominated spuds but the usual brain farts cost us a win etc. etc. It’s all par for th course. At least let’s see what arteta does this summer, then judge him. Am I convinced he’s the one to take… Read more »

Jim Lahey

To be fair, we just played probably the beast team on the planet at the moment (typing that caused physical pain). We were lucky but how easy would it have been for us to completely capitulate and get beat by 4 or 5? I can bet that is what we all thought would happen once the first goal went in.

ALSO! Once again how was TAA not shown a red card? The fucking bias is shocking, they’re not even subtle about it.

Valentin

On his showing Soares is definitely not an upgrade on Bellerin. In fact I would play AMN before either of the two. Better defensively and better crosser overall Some players seems to get the implicit trust of the manager and need to royally mess up to lose it whilst others don’t seem to given a chance despite their good performance. Holding was MOTM in one outing then benched. Luiz keeps making horrendous mistakes but is offered a one year extension whilst Holding is offered to other clubs. AMN was called upon to tame Adams Traore then told to sit down.… Read more »

Tee

Receding

Go and watch the video and the reaction from klopp before coming here to show your myopic nature on things.

Get yourself out of Emery’s a** to where sun shines.

You ain’t making sense but killing sense.

There’s nothing to write home about concerning Emery’s tenure for Arsenal. All we read from you lot is is record of former glory which we don’t give a shite about. His records for us stink to high heaven. He gave us our worst start in how many years?

Deal with it. On your bike to blow air of Emery’s a**

Dissenter

It was good win no doubt but we needed a lot of luck to get it.
It’s extremely rare for good teams like Liverpool to make make two defensive errors that lead to goals in the same game?

Let’s stop acting like a mid table club and approach the win with some perspective.
I just hope it gives the team some belief going forward, besides that there;s nothing more to such a win.

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