Quite interesting to continue reading people furious about the Matteo stories that are doing the rounds.
The biggest critique of Arsenal over the past 10 years has been the lack of a winning culture. We let players do as they please, we haven’t held them to a standard, and we’ve suffered as a result.
Matteo is a problem. Has been for all his managers, whether it’s Freddie or Emery, or the crew over at Lorient. There is a discernable pattern there and you can’t argue it. He is now under new leadership and the same pattern has continued. We saw the blow-up in Dubai, we now have the bad behaviour with Edu and Arteta after the Brighton game, we also know that Luiz couldn’t talk him around, and I’ve been told from multiple places that the way he conducts himself around the club is not impressive (which obviously adds meat to the reason the club is going hard at him).
What else is there left to do? You drop him. You hold him to the same standard you hold everyone else. When he comes round to the idea that he’s not special, he’ll be forgiven.
That is standards people.
Things to remember:
He was brought in from the cold after Dubai
Pepe was dropped then brought back in when he started to deliver
Ceballos was benched after he begged to go him, now he’s pushing for a move
AMN was dropped for turning up late, last time he was seen, he had Traore in his pocket
Forgiveness is part of the culture, you just have to play the game.
You think other clubs have different ways of looking at it? Spurs biggest signing of last summer was NDombele. He’s a £60m midfielder, a total powerhouse in France last year, he was the future of Spurs midfield. How has Jose dealt with it? He’s savaged his fitness, he’s questioned his commitment, and the club has leaked hard against him in the press. Oh, he’s also not played a lot of games.
It was hardly any different when Poch was dealing with the player. The leaks were there, the player didn’t get games, and the manager said it was hard to assess him.
That’s a £60m player we’re talking about. Not a 20-year old that’s achieved nothing in the game so far. Is Jose bad at dealing with ‘characters’? Do we think he’s naive? Are the leaks a disgrace?
Arsene Wenger didn’t hold players to standards towards the end. Emery flip-flopped and lost respect in the squad because of it. Arteta said he’s going to hold players to account and he has. I do not get the fuss unless you think rules should be unequally distributed based on perceived talent.
As for the debate about the press around him, well, he’s not exactly a popular character. You have over 100 people that are at the training ground. You have the agents of the players who talk. You have a club that wants to get ahead of the story so they’re not hammered in the media for inexplicably dropping a ‘kid that just wants to win really bad.’
Annnnyway, some of the football sites in France are reporting that Lille (remember what I wrote about them) have agreed in principle to let Oshimen go to Napoli for 80m Euros.
Errrr…?
A player with 2 seasons of production in Belgium and France? Going for a fee bigger than United are willing to pay for Jadon Sancho? To a club as small-time as Napoli? DURING A PANDEMIC?
If I speak, I am in trouble.
Emile Smith-Rowe Vs Readingpic.twitter.com/sWG5HoEy8u
— BNS Comps (@BnsComps) July 8, 2020
Look at that sexy comp of ESR at Huddersfield. A lower division, but still fast and absolutely brutal for a young Arsenal player. Great to watch him boss games. He’s technical, he’s creative and he is explosive over 5 metres.
Injury permitting, he’ll be one to watch next season. Also interesting to read that Miguel Azeez has been asked to get educated on playing the 6 role. The player models his game on Busquets, clearly another product with a lot of potential, hopefully he lands a loan move next year to get some game time in him.
Right, that’s all I have time for today. ENJOY YOUR DAY BIG LOVE SEE YOU SOON. xx
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Tro4hy
Euro5a … and clean sweep, suckaz.
Sell his arse
Miguel Azeez is another one I’m hoping makes the grade. He
has everything to make it as a dm.
Pedro
“We saw the blow-up in Dubai
..oh no you didn’t SEE any blow-up.You don’t know what happened in Dubai other than the stuff the club is selectively leaking.
If a player is a distraction, he needs to be dropped/sold. Simple as that. Bigger names have been disciplined in the past at bigger clubs. Matteo needs to be taught a lesson and made an example of so other young players don’t get any ideas.
Ozil can play fortnite with him…
Bar injury, ESR, sooner or later will make it up the ladder. I will like him to either be brought back to the team or loaned to pl team next season.
He plays like Debryne in the way he knits the parts together. Hope his injury record is a thing of the past.
Sell Guenouzi ASAP, just stop all the thousand-cut razor blade attacks on his character. .
I don’t think the 100 people on the training ground were present at the private meeting between the lad and the Arsenal hierarchy..
UnNai.
That’s conjecture. Maybe Sokratis and Guen scuffle mirrored Guen and Maupay’s,we will never know.
And by the way you conveniently left out the part I was harping on:
“He took his job seriously, his training was no problem, and his character is to always want to win.
“Sometimes when he talks it’s good. But sometimes he talks badly. He talks too much.
“His talent isn’t in question, that’s not the issue. He can be a top, top player and I think he can still succeed abroad. It’s up to him to change his attitude.”
Pedro
What’s this I’m reading about KSE acquiring the clubs debt to free spending? COVID moves? Or a whiff of ambition?
We need to talk about Ings.
We can’t buy top dollar strikers, not that there are (m)any of those around.
Surely surely Ings is an improvement on Laca and Eddie?
Un,
The deep lying playmaker comment refers to Miguel Azeez not ESR
ESR – No idea if he will actual make the cut at Arsenal, but man, did that YouTube clip remind me of Tomas Rosicky. Not everything came off, but each touch was always an attempt to make something happen. I miss players like that at Arsenal. No risk, no reward.
Perhaps I just miss Rosicky.
Dissenter Remember out talk last year when i told you Conte and Inter wouldn’t go the distance with Juve? He just doesn’t have the players to go a whole 38 games with that insane energy he likes. Juve don’t too but they’ve mastered the art of learning to just slow down games and preserve their energy and it’s working wonders. Sad how Lazio have lost their way since after the lockdown. Atlanta though just keep motoring, they’re like an incredible machine. Seems Fonseca might be out of a job too soon if Roma don’t pick up. Also maybe out old… Read more »
Raheem
No to Ings for me, would be 30 mil and I think we should be looking at guys 5 years his junior.
Batistuta
“Seems Fonseca might be out of a job too soon if Roma don’t pick up.Also maybe out old pal Gazidis and co may have finally made the right choice with Pioli, Milan are on fire at the moment”
I actually think it would be wise from Roma to take Pioli when Rangnick starts at Milan next season.
Re Lazio: I think the break really affected them, they have a small squad and getting to play 2-3 times a week was just to much.
Un.
He’s not performing?
You can say that of the whole team.
This is where we have to agree to disagree.
My points were as folliws:
– It’s okay if Arteta wants to do away with Guendozi
– However he could have been more tactful instead of letting it fester.
– Ultimately Arsenal will be the looser by not getting the best value for money they could have gotten otherwise.
Membership of a team demands obedience. Not absolute obedience. Room should be left for inspirational players to work their magic. If Guendozy was a Maradonna or a Gazza, I’d say, ‘Fine’ . But he isn’t.
Un,
Lol, “gun dog in type.”
Great turn of phrase
What a goal Richarlison.
Charlie,
Get that but if he can deliver 15 to 20 a season for the next 3 in addition to Auba’s it’s a no-brainer. £30m will be a snip.
Back pass
Sad for Fonseca too because they started very well but lost their way.
Pioli is an okay manager, not bad actually to be honest. Been really impressed with Kessie since the restart. You look at how mobile he gets across despite the technical skills and look at how awkward our midfielder look when they try to run with the ball
I see that Spurs resting their big guns ( chumps) for us on the weekend.
Raheem Yea I appreciate that, I just think you could get a talent that might get near that AND have room for growth/resale value. The Old Firm have strikers for that price who would do well here imo, and they’re under 23 years of age. Memphis Depay is another touted to be there for the taking at 20 mil in his last year, he’d slot in left side and see Auba through the middle. Ings has been excellent, but issue is his contract is long and he’s a PL player. Can’t see anything but a proper bid taking him out… Read more »
I have never been a fan of Bellerin. He neglects the cardinal responsibilty of a full-back: defend. Never a fan of Sansom either, and for the same reason.
Whether Mikel can lick him into defensive shape remains to be seen, but it’s quite clear that is his intention. The perfect role model is – dare I say it? – Ashley. He was always back there when needed, balanced and ready.
I don’t get this Guen love all of a sudden.
Fella is bang average if that.
Bad seed… then there is consequences.
I doubt he will ever be the pipe dream some state on here. No 60M player.
No Barca, no Madrid nada.
He has been with us 2 seasons. had lots of time, he is not some brand new kid who didnt know the rules.
Let him make another coach miserable. We need the $$ anyhow
watch Mourinho complain that his team had only 3 days rest.
Typical bitch ass
Batistuta, “Remember out talk last year when i told you Conte and Inter wouldn’t go the distance with Juve? He just doesn’t have the players to go a whole 38 games with that insane energy he likes. Juve don’t too but they’ve mastered the art of learning to just slow down games and preserve their energy and it’s working wonders. Sad how Lazio have lost their way since after the lockdown. Atlanta though just keep motoring, they’re like an incredible machine.” I remember, honestly I’m shocked how easily Inter’s challenge fell apart. I never expected a Conte-coached team to fall… Read more »
What is the latest Kse development going around. Does anyone have any details.? Esr is bossing it in Championship. If last year hadn’t been so bad for him injury wise he’d probably be at Arsenal fighting for a first team spot right now. Esr along with Saka and Gabi are the 3 players I have full confidence can become starters at Arsenal. Before Saka’s emergence , Esr was widely regarded as the best Arsenal academy product to come out in some time. Injuries derailed him somewhat but he is really bossing games at Huddersfield. Their manager is a huge fan… Read more »
If ESR plays like De Bruyne as Tee states why the fuck would you want him deep lying for?
Dissenter
Juventus haven’t even been at their best this season, they’ve just lost to Milan and are conceding goals for fun, the thing is that they have a much deeper squad than those closest to them. Inter were always going to fall apart, Lazio was the last hope we had but they’ve just not coped well since the restart. Refereeing over here isn’t perfect but beats whatever it is they serve up in Engurland
Un.
Anything could have happened. If Arteta, as the coach, is demanding Apologies from Guen, then he could as well have just taken a senior player’s side, against a petulant kid.
And who banished him to train alone? Was it Raul? You could allow him train like everyone else and refuse to play him a la Martinelli. That’s a statement right there.
CC,
How can you argue in about team cohesion/standard and then be in favour of buying Depay. Just this year, he was fined for publicly criticising his teammates and the Lyon management’s team.
Depay has previously been lambasted at all his clubs as unprofessional and a nightmare to manage. He may be cheaper because being in his last year of contract and at Lyon at time he has been unplayable, but there has also been times when he was just not interested.
Bati
You know Conte’s record in Serie A was very good so that’s what I was basing my prediction on.
There were many risks that inter took that didn’t work out; i also though Alexis
would regain some of his form.
Where do you see Milan right now.
I think Gazidis is beginning to get some things right by trial and error. He’s signing some good players and has signed a very good manager.
Charlie Nah I’m not convinced by Memphis, he isn’t consistent in his application. We can’t afford that, we pay £20m for him tie him down to a long contract and we’ll be looking to offload in a year – another Ozil – no thanks. The last time we went north of the border we ended up paying twice what we thought we’d pay. I’d rather pay £30m for a somewhat proven Premier league striker, even at 27, than £60m for a striker from Scotland. I’m not sure when last a striker from there did much in the Premier league. We… Read more »
CC
“How can you argue in about team cohesion/standard and then be in favour of buying Depay. Just this year, he was fined for publicly criticising his teammates and the Lyon management’s team.”
It’s the same people that are also asking for us to sign Malang Sarr from Nice without bothering to ask about his temperament. Who lets a 21 year old defender run down his contract if he doesn’t have behavior issues.
Arteta will struggle to manage the likes of Memphis Depay if he can’t man-manage Guendouzi.
Guns of SFJuly 9, 2020 18:02:06
watch Mourinho complain that his team had only 3 days rest.
Typical bitch ass
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You’re obsessed with Mourinho.
Thomas, lol
you a spurs fan
Guns,
Correction, Thomas is a Chelski troglodyte.
and he loves Lo Celso, his favorite player
Unai
‘Sarr is on a free
Like Guendouzi we can sell up in a season or two for big money. It’s a no brainier.
Surely you can see the business acumen in buying up top youngsters on the cheap and developing for profit a la Dortmund”
What’s the point of buying young temperamental players that the manager cannot handle?
Aren’t you curious to know why Nice [with Vierra as manager] is letting a 21 year old run out his contract.
Dissenter “For the moment, I have taken the decision not to extend my contract with OGC Nice. We will see how the season finishes and from then I will take my decision. I would like to finish the season with OGC Nice and then see what is going to happen.” Sarr on running down his contract. If the player doesn’t want to stay they can’t make him. Doesn’t necessarily mean that he has issues and they’re letting him leave. He played 119 games for them, and they tried to extend his contract, he just wanted to move on, been with… Read more »
Josh King an idiot the ball was going in. See how spurs get a draw the wankers.
Dissenter
Player leaving on a free doesn’t mean he’s a problem.
You can’t force players to sign contracts.
Un.
Sure thing. The Manager deserves to be backed whatever he decides. I guess that’s that for Guen then.
Come on Bournemouth!!
Freddie
Didn’t we just sign Mari, a left footed central defender ?
Dissenter
I doubt Mari was bought as a starter long term, more likely a cheap back up that would allow us to keep the same system if our main left footed CB is out. At least I hope so, think we need someone with a bit more pace starting.
Buying Mari also allows us to offload a couple of the more expensive backups and make some money off them like Sok and hopefully Mustafi, the same can be said if we get Sarr as it would allow us to sell Kola and pocket his transfer fee.
“How can you argue in about team cohesion/standard and then be in favour of buying Depay. Just this year, he was fined for publicly criticising his teammates and the Lyon management’s team.“ Does that mean he wouldn’t meet the cultural standards at Arsenal? Aubameyang fell out massively with Dortmund but we signed him up and he’s been exemplary, David Luiz had fallen out at Chelsea but he’s another leading by example. I’m considering Depay as a footballer, it’s the club who would have to assess his character and whether they feel he’s someone eager to adopt to the culture at… Read more »
awww shucks
Our appeal was denied
https://www.goal.com/en/news/arsenal-fail-in-nketiah-red-card-appeal/16qwpc8l9vtdv164bhle5bqfp9
Pedro
Barcelona career ender thing , you forgot Vermaelen . Also I was referring to fact that assuming Barcelona or Atletico are after Guendouzi sort of certifies how good a talent he is. His talent is not even in question , its just his attitude and character. All this talk also really deflects the real issue of how our highest paid player is a bad apple . I was really a big fan of him , now I think he really shouldve been sold with Sanchez.
its going to be ALS or ALP from here on….
I’d be looking at that Douglas Luiz at Villa if they go down, he’s an interesting one. Grealish is their undoubted star, but he’s quietly been improving as the season goes on.
Didn’t realise he was 22, seems a pretty accomplished CM potentially.
Seems Tottenham just played 100 minutes of football without a shot on target.
Guess we’ll get battered at the weekend then.
Pepe needs to show up…. has not played much lately.
I want to see us hammer them early… would be great.
Son and Lo Celso injured… great
just smash this team to pieces
Make Mourinho go berzerk. good times
Refereeing in the Premier League is a farce. That is not even close to being a penalty!!
Fernandes stands on the villa’s defender’s ankle and United are awarded a penalty..
Poor decision
Gary Neville calling Bruno’s wet lettuce dive clever. The standards do shift depending on the player.
Joke decision.
Think Mourinho is just plain dumb.
Easy points against Bournemouth – he decides to rest his players for a NLD that could go either ways irrespective of form or freshness. Almost like Emery resting our players when we could have gotten 3 easy points against Crystal Palace last season and probably made Top 4.
Terrible decision, what’s worse is that VAR had time to look at it and still gave it. Utter nonsense.
Even if it’s a foul (which it is not), it was not in the box. Joke decision. Favouring Man U as usual
United, only 13 pens this season
The officiating is just banter at this stage in the Prem
Mourinho is dumb
Son and Moura did get in the game today.
We have to be smart. No red cards on Sunday please. Refs seems out for blood with us
John Moss is a tubby middle-aged cunt trying to keep up with 20-something elite athletes.
How is refereeing a serious profession? Honestly..
Penalty yet the ball never once went in the box and it was Bruno that was studs up on the Villa defender. Cannot fathom this league at times
It’s official on LSE that KSE has bought two bonds of debt from Arsenal.
Fernandes another cheater.
Terrible reffing.
Is there an oversight committee on reffing standards???
Fernandes and Greenwood are making a difference to united.
Getting a lot of help from officials though.
The tackle( foul) by Matic on Grealish was very similar to the Eddie challenge.
He got there a fraction late ,was out of control and looked like he raked his studs down his shin, though unsurprisingly no replay was shown from a conclusive angle , probably as they didn’t want to incriminate matic.
Dissenter
We’ve been quietly good since the restart and think the players are starting to respond to Pioli very well plus Ibrahimovic coming in seems to have had everyone taking it up a notch. Bennacer and Kessie in midfield is starting to look really good and more importantly Chanaloglu is starting to score again. If we can get into Europe and then get some very smart signings come in this summer then I’d be mightily pleased
Jose throwing a fit as per usual.
Knows this weekend he loses…. will be 4 points back from us then
Makes you wonder what VAR are looking at when they are making decisions.
How that penalty decision wasn’t overturned by VAR makes you question the honesty of officials.
The thing is , it wasnt even a difficult decision , should take 5 seconds to realise that Fernandes was the perpetrator in standing on the defender.
come on Villa. Beat these scum
Shaw and the ref need to drop a few lbs
of all the rivals of Arsenal I hate Manure the most…
easily.
Horrible officiating.
That said – big laughs at finished Jose taking aim at VAR for their result. Zero shots on target, Jose. Against relegation fodder Bournemouth who have conceded 60
Nobody can deny the officials are instrumental in paving the way to Utd in a champions league place.
Why aren’t other clubs up in arms at this favourable refereeing they get every game, along with a record breaking penalty haul?
Not even as if Fergie is bullying these spineless , and quite possibly corrupt refs
“Refereeing in the Premier League is a farce. That is not even close to being a penalty!!”
Looks like you homos are going to have to find something else to whine about:
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news/var-premier-league-fifa-ifab-rules-video-assistant-referee-a9610126.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news/var-premier-league-fifa-ifab-rules-video-assistant-referee-a9610126.html?utm_source=reddit.com
That was the worst penalty I have ever seen given.
Fernades should either get a yellow for diving or going studs in on the defender.
How on earth was that a penalty when someone physically jumps on you?
When has reffing ever been legit and good?
“I think he has bigger characters in the squad to worry about than a 20-year old that has done nothing in the game.”
We don’t have big characters in this squad Pedro. We have a squad full of chickens.
I’d say his entire style is more penetrating and protagonistic (if that’s a word)
“His passing in the final 3rd is better
He has the nack for timing his runs and finding space
He creates space for others and has an eye for goal.
As well as boundless energy and enthusiasm.”
Lol eye for goal. You mean his 1G in 25games in the PL? You’re right, mind-blowing numbers.
The lengths yu’all go to to justify a nothing player getting game time over better talents. You did get the energy part right tho Unnaii
Penalties aside,am I the only one worried about united and this ole fellow next season?He doesn’t look like the bum I thought he was and if they sign a defender and left back then they have a serious team for next season
P.S. Have no Issue with the club disciplining players if they in the wrong. About time really.
Definitely have an issue with folks asking for the lad to be sold when we’ve got a plethora of nothing players in his position getting game time.
I do like ESR tho. Hopefully he kicks on next season playing backup to whoever the AM would be.
Ishola
Where did you get that from?
Where and when did I make such comment?
I posted that I see ESR as Debryne that knits other parts together. It’s Miguel Azeez that I see as a deep lying playmaker.
Please, Go and check again and stop misquoting me.
Banega is such a lovely player… Class
Daniel,
Man u is yet to play any strong team since resuming from the break.
Not disputing the fact that that Fernandes guy as rejuvenated them but their performance against a top team would show where they are.
I believe they have the easiest run to the end of the season.
“Manchester United equal Premier League record for penalties awarded in one season“
The most Man United stat ever
So much crying about the officials on here. This place has almost turned into Untold. Pathetic stuff.
I’m liking the sound of Malang Sarr on a free.
Spuds are stuck with Mourhino. How can they be so poor offensively with so many quality players upfront?.
It’s almost like that guy goes around with a go fund me account to many big clubs. His pay-out from clubs has to be in the 75-100 million range by now.
I agree with CaliGooner, Malang Sarr on a free has to be a risk worth taking. Right price, right age profile.
Sell Mavropanos for £5m to £6m and we’ve covered his wages too.
Pogba, Fernandes and Greenwood have turned Utd’s fortunes around this half of the season. It’s like 3 fresh new signings coming in, as Pogba’s been injured and Greenwood was still finding his feet.
I don’t blame VAR. The technology is there to make the correct decisions. Unfortunately we have Mike Riley running the show and the referee’s behind VAR that are making the decisions clearly haven’t got a clue. Of course as per usual, Arsenal were always going to be the team that are done over the most. Used to it now.
Sarr is free so half the battle is won
Bamford was right about United but he wouldn’t have known they would sign Fernandes at the time he made that prediction.
Greenwood is going to be a top player for them for many years to come. England is blessed with so much talent now.
England’s forwards have a lot of potential. Kane, Sancho and Sterling are probably the preferred choice, and rightly so. But knocking on the door we have Greenwood, Saka, Hudson-Odoi, Rashford, Abraham. Nketiah, Nelson and Balogan could be involved in a couple years. Foden, Grealish, Rice, Mount and Maddison is as good as most midfields potentially. All would could get in the Arsenal team I reckon. It’s a shame Billy Gilmour isn’t English. The full backs is where we are strongest in my opinion. A choice of Alexander-Arnold, Tripper, Walker, Reece James, Max Aarons and Maitland-Niles at RB James Justin at… Read more »
Guns of SF
July 9, 2020 19:36:01
Son and Lo Celso injured… great
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Where did you see this? They both played today