Arsenal failing to take their chances and losing a lead late in the game? That feels a little more Arsenal. That feels like a weird kind of progress.
Last night’s game against Brendan Rodgers excellent Leicester team marked a step forward in attacking football under Arteta. We dominated the first half, utterly. We were given far more space than we were against Wolves and we fully exploited it bar the finish. This wasn’t purposeless possession.
Auba opened the scoring after Saka killed a career with a one-two shuffle and a pinpoint cross.
Leicester had a goal disallowed after Kola was down in an attacking scrum with Iheanacho. A good call in my opinion.
Our second half wasn’t that pretty, Leicester came to play and we didn’t react particularly well.
The msot contentious issue was our sending off. Eddie was subbed on and made a very clumsy challenge and to my mind, was rightly sent home for an early shower. What didn’t quite compute was Jamie Vardy kicked Mustafi in the head in what looked like a professional ‘accident’, and he didn’t even land a card. One was sly, one was dim.
Our confidence and game collapsed around that decision, then Jamie V broke our line and sneaked a goal at the back post. It looked offside on the VAR, it took the customary 8 minutes to decide, and it stood.
We was robbed.
We fluffed our lines in the first half, witnessed a worldy from Kaspar, and conceded late on.
Very Arsenal.
The point was a disappointment. I’ll take it regardless. After the Wolves game, the ghouls were writing us off against a ‘proper’ team, and really, we should have taken the game. That first half, under normal circumstances, would have seen us 3 goals up.
I’d bitch about the reffing, but you have to cost it in. Leicester made 14 fouls and didn’t get a booking, we had a booking and sending off on 10.
The night wasn’t to be.
Champions League football is no longer a prize.
Though a scalp in the NLD certainly is.
You can say whatever you want about the red card (Arteta’s 4th), you can pretend Matteo was making a difference, you can bitch that taking Auba off was a bad move… the reality is we are now competing with good teams.
The football was almost sexy in the first half. The defending for the most part was solid. We do not look like uncoachables these days.
There is still a lot of work to do, but coming away from a game against a top 3 game feeling robbed is part of the journey.
I don’t want to feel like that on Sunday. Mikel’s first NLD in the dugout will hopefully be special. Let’s see what we have there.
I will take a better kind of disappointment.
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At the rate we are going, we’ll soon have 15 defenders on our books.
It’s not like the muppets running the club haven’t made mistakes before, to expect that corralling a temperamental 20 year old into a meeting will result in him backing off is a mistake of epic proportions.
To start leaking stuff to tarnish his standing is even worse. Hope the Arsenal team learn from this.
Dissenter, This is exactly what I have been arguing about. It looks like the management team went into the meeting swinging hard and were taken aback when he replied rather than caved in and apologised. A little more insight in psychology would have tell them, that it was the wrong approach and that with such character confrontations can quickly escalate. The fact that he is forced to train on his own until he apologise or is sold (whatever comes first) is really a consequence of that heavy handedness. The real loser here is Arsenal, because I have no doubt that… Read more »
Mikel Arteta’s Arsenal rank top for the percentage of turnovers ending in a foul this season on 7.8.
If it’s the Brighton incident causing this latest over the top drama with Matteo Guendouzi, I hope they tell them to fcuk off. The manager is right to have a word with him but it shouldn’t get to the point where this kid is basically training on his own. Jack Wilshere has issues too and I don’t remember AW treating him like this. Other players will be looking at this incident and saying to themselves this clown tripping and it’s just a matter it time before they stop listening to him. Eric Dier ran in the stands to whopped someone… Read more »
Apparently arsenal ar the dirtiest team in the league, really? These officials should be ashamed of themselves, we had a good example of that on Tuesday, Leicester city committed more fouls than us, yet we received more bookings than them, if I were the club I would embark on some serious investigation to show these crooked officials up for what they really are, even the bank transactions. How can we be the dirtiest in a league that has the Burnley’s , the Sheffield United of this world? Last night a worse challenge by a Burnley player only gets a yellow… Read more »
Valentin Do you remember they incident where Diego Costa bullied Koschielny like a little boy and only Gabriel Paulista stood up to him. Words were exchanged in that incident. Did you see Wenger over-react?…..No When Maupay recklessly injured Leno, Arteta said he didn’t see it properly but went out of his way to defend Maupay… “ , “I believe that no player has the intention to hurt anybody and I believe in this case it’s exactly the same, it was unfortunate. Arteta backed the opposition player who needlessly injured his goalie and over-reacted against a 20 year old who definitely… Read more »
Sid
“Mikel Arteta’s Arsenal rank top for the percentage of turnovers ending in a foul this season on 7.8.”
And that would most likely be coming from the midfield area.
What is really disappointing is all these leaks out of the club.
They were embarrassing under Emery and they’re embarrassing now. Not sure allowing all this salacious press about Gendouzi is solid leadership.
Anyway, let’s smash Spurs this weekend, and all this tabloid nonsense surrounding him becomes moot. He’s likely to be moved on this summer for a net profit, so not a catastrophe.
Majestic agree.But it’s not Ellery? It’s that c** t Mike Riley who pulls the strings at the PGMOL.Thats why we’ve been shafted for the last Dozen years or so.
Even the rotten FA had a look at the incident and felt there was no need to punish him. But no, we think they’re wrong. When next we get red carded we should know they’re trying to borrow a leaf from us. What’s next, burn the boy at the stake, charge him for crime against the universe?
Ishola70July 9, 2020 10:20:59 Apparently its a tactic by Arteta “I am learning new things – how to go, when to stay, when I have to do a tactical foul. It’s good for me to learn these things” Rodri told ESPN following his move to City Arteta has also become embroiled in the debate. In the Amazon documentary, ‘All or Nothing’, which charted City’s centurion seasons, he is seen telling players: “Make fouls if there is a transition.” Guardiola was asked about this in the same press conference as issued his impassioned defence of his coaching methods. He quickly directed… Read more »
I told you passive aggressive
I told you for free!
Its going to be interesting hearing why Mikle Arteta finally dumped Ozil after playing him in his first 10 games. The Mattéo Guendouzi situation is taking all the attention away from Ozil who suddenly deemed not good enough to make the bench that has too much defenders after featuring in 10 straight games. Is it the wage cut situation, discipline or training?
Dissenter, Yes I remember that. I don’t know if Arteta is naive enough to believe what he said or if he get out of his way to look like a good guy to the public. Looks like he Play the good guy outside and the tough guy inside. In my experience most successful managers play it the other way around. Good guy inside and tough guy outside. Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho (before he lost his mojo) all didn’t take shit from the oppositions, referees, press but were loved in house and viewed as father figure. You defend your player from outside… Read more »
As I football fan, I hate Ozil much more than Guen. He is stealing money from the club. He didn’t give an effort to contribute. Guen gave his heart out. He needs support. As a fan, I would show some love instead of throwing stone when he is down.
Val, In your experience? Which experience? The good managers are tough outside and good inside? Like you know the going ons in the club? We are all speculating based on what the media are dishing out on this issue. Arteta hasn’t said anything to warrant foaming in the mouth like you have it here. He was asked about ozil and guen and all he said was the situation remains the same. Don’t forget that after the mupauy incident , Arteta said he will treat it in private. Besides, what you read on the social media, do you have an inside… Read more »
Valentin I agree I thought he failed miserably by not validating the feelings of his goal keeper who was so pissed off he sat up on his stretcher, ignored the searing pain and went after Maupay. Players know when the fouls are uncalled for. Arteta didn’t even acknowledge Leno’s feelings publicly…just backed Maupay is a very sheepish way. What made it worse is that he said he didn’t see the foul. I hate it when Arsenal keeps trying to embrace this conservative ‘class’ image to the extent that they are willing to throw players under the bus. Our mist successful… Read more »
Nelson, “As I football fan, I hate Ozil much more than Guen. He is stealing money from the club. He didn’t give an effort to contribute” I’m no fan of anything Ozil either, I’m just curious why all of a sudden him and Mikel suddenly not on the same page. Val, “I understand that Arteta is too young to naturally play the father figure” No, he’s not! I honestly think he’s trying too hard to copy Pep G. I could be wrong but it would be better for him to take a leaf from AW book on how to treat… Read more »
One of Sir Alex Ferguson’s most notable characteristics was his ability to successfully man-manage his players.
He was a disciplinarian when he needed to be and a caring paternal figure on other occasions.
According to his biographer, Martin Baker
Tee
How do you think all these drip-drip s smearing of Guendouzi is coming from?
The club is leaking stuff to friendly journalists, that’s what’s happening.
“ The campaign to prove he’s a problem child is only harming the Arsenal. The kid haven’t said a word on social media to disrespect the club but he’s been dragged across all corners of London. Shame on Arsenal to deal with the situation like this.”
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Tee, I don’t foam at the mouth, I simply voice the opinion that I disagree with how the club went about their business with Guendouzi. I wrote earlier, using the word of Bernard Casoni and Landreau to judge Guendouzi is akin to listen to Tony Pulis judgement of Serge Gnabry. Nobody with 2 cents of common sense and knowledge of them would listen to them. Both have since been sacked from their position at Lorient after disastrous results and open rebellion by players. Arteta went out of his way to exonerate Maupay from any wrong doing when it was clear… Read more »
If Mattéo Guendouzi is not good enough for Arsenal, so is Eddie, Willock, AMN and Nelson.
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1307198/Arsenal-news-Matteo-Guendouzi-transfer-Mikel-Arteta-Premier-League
According to Julien Laurens
Robert Huth during the Leicester match said this could be a test from Arteta to see what type of mentality Guendouzi has and if he can come back a better more well rounded individual. All evidence from previous managers and ITK’s suggest this is not one-off behaviour so this could be as some have said the end of his career at the club. I personally would rather keep him but not if doing so ends up undermining Arteta. The fact that he’s being linked with Barca, Real, Atlético and Real show the kid has clear potential to be a quality… Read more »
Dissenter, I’m not in support the leaking of info to the press by club functionaries and at the same time I’m challenging those who have been trying to make the whole things to be all about Arteta. Arteta was clear from the beginning about his standards. He was also clear when asked about ozil and guen. He said the situation remains the same. Why then is everyone implying it could be that Arteta hates guen? Though debatable there are some online blogs with the believe guen doesn’t want to be selected let alone play for us again. Should Arteta be… Read more »
From footballing angle Guendouzi has to compulsively move with the ball until his 8 bit brain can figure what to do. The only positive is that his passes are accurate. On the other hand , to change direction he must starboard turn like a steamer which manoeuver is not possible in the fast paced Premier League so he passes back too often. All in all Guendouzi slows down the game. Now we have been seeing how a game can progress without Guendouzi, best is to hype the kid and sell him to the highest bidder. Barca interest might be paper… Read more »
Let’s be crystal clear Don.
Crystal.
Mattie G has shown more overall footballing ability than Willock.
When Willock bosses a game and is an absolute monster which we saw from Mattie G against Spurs second half then we can think of Willock as on the same level as an overall player.
What’s going on today you bunch of wankers?
Tee, Get off your high horse. The issue is a question of opinion on the treatment of a player. If Guendouzi was impossible to deal on a daily basis and terrible as a player, the club would have no hesitation in selling him. Clearly the club is now leaking that they don’t want to sell because they also see that as a personality conflict. None of his previous coaches even Casoni questioned Guendouzi application to work, just how he reacts to disagreement. So the real question for the club is how to deal with a problem child to avoid situation… Read more »
“ I wrote earlier, using the word of Bernard Casoni and Landreau to judge Guendouzi is akin to listen to Tony Pulis judgement of Serge Gnabry. Nobody with 2 cents of common sense and knowledge of them would listen to them. Both have since been sacked from their position
at Lorient after disastrous results and open rebellion by players.”
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Quoting Tim from 7am ( A morning guy😂) “ And it’s not easy to dominate Leicester and get under their skin the way that we did. Leicester under Rodgers are a high-tempo, smash-mouth side. Second in the League in total tackles – which isn’t necessarily good or bad but rather illustrates how Rodgers wants them to play, he wants them to tackle a lot. But Arsenal gave back as much as they got and I wasn’t at all surprised that Jamie Vardy raked his studs on Mustafi’s face. Nor was I surprised that the referee didn’t see it, nor that… Read more »
“Joe willock has done more for arsenal football club this season, largely from the bench than Guendouzi has in the last two.
Arteta clearly agrees because he’s rather keep Joey boy and bin the mong”
Your’e ignoring an important fact that Joe Willock is a championship level player
From Julien Lauren’s:
“ I think he’s very passionate, he loves this club, we’ve seen some of the celebrations and the incidents, but sometimes that passion goes over [the top] and he does crazy things like the things we saw against Brighton which he should’ve never done.“
If this is what’s wrong about Guendouzi then I wish we had a whole squad of Similar players rather than con artists and fake players like Ozil and Xhaka.
I’m sorry but if Guedenzi is a cunt, then he has to go. He doesn’t haven’t the ridiculous talent that might allow him to be a cunt…so that means, he’s just a cunt. So what if he’s never acted up with another coach…as if insinuating that it’s Arteta that’s at fault. He’s a 22 year old millionaire who has silly hair and has probably read a few comments that have made him believe he’s a Billy Big Balls. He’s a total non entity and this should t even be a talking point. Period. I’d rather have a team of 11… Read more »
This is what happens when punks get rich fast. Basically he’s a spotty virgin, the next minute he’s a spotty virgin millionaire…it takes a while to process that shit.
He needs to learn skills.
I have repeatedly asked Pedro to spill the beans on what Guendozi did. Every Arsenal player right now is sell able to for the right price but if the rumours are true that Guendozi has been asked to train alone until sold or he apologises, then we’ve mostly likely shot ourselves in the foot.
With the way things are going, we will have to sell Guendozi at half price or keep him on our books for a further season and we already have enough leaches at the club.
Guendouzi isn’t even the most talented young player at Arsenal and he can do whatever he wants? What’s Guendouzi really great at as a centre midfielder? Passing? Running? Jump? Tackling? At least we know Saka can deliver dangerous balls and he has the numbers to support that. At least we know Martinelli is a fox in the box and he has numbers to support it. It’s rare for a player with a stinking attitude to make it in football. Balotelli was far more talented than Guendouzi and where is he now? And people mentioning Ferguson. You think Ferguson will accept… Read more »
At work I have experienced a similar situation to what Mikel is facing. While I was at meeting, somebody from another department made some disparaging comments about our teams. One of my team member took really umbrage of the comment. Things quickly escalated and a full barrage of insults were spewed. The initial provocateur made an official HR complaint about him. So myself, my team member, the provocateur, his boss got summoned to an official meeting by HR. It was my first meeting as manager with HR, so having no clue what to expect I asked my previous boss for… Read more »
The manager has a track record of asking his players to commit tactical fouls,
the opposition then gets stuck in and it ends in tears for our kumbaya boys
Im telling you for free!
Dissenter
Your disdain for Arteta is laughable, one of these days you’re going to provide actual support for half the drivel you come out with. Or not, you’ll likely continue to sling mud and dip into the shadows when pressed on it.
These rumors about Arsenal trying to sign Malang Sarr on a free transfer from from Nice are laughable. The lad is a left-footed central defender who was allowed to run out his contract because he too has temperament issues. How many times do clubs allow 21 year- olds to run out their contracts? Firstly didn’t we just sign Pablo Mari to play the same role in a squad bursting with central defenders? Secondly, Arteta and the Arsenal management are struggling to manage one 20 year old temperamental French player, why throw our hat into the ring for another 21 year… Read more »
Dissenter
“They need to develop a profile of the type of players that Arteta can manage, then seek such players.”
The push out here is that Teets can’t manage certain players. A plethora of players.
This is a serious allegation against Teets and I expect uproar on here at such a suggestion.
CC Your SUCK-UP to Arteta is laughable as is your penchant for trying to squash debate about him . One of these days you’re going to provide actual support for the “guidelines” that Guendouzi violated . It really doesn’t matter because you won’t stop sling mud and dipping into the shadows when pressed on it. Thanks for creating the template to turn the mirror right back at ya. I don’t detest Arteta. I just don’t see any basis for assuming he’s the second coming of Pep. I’m cautiously optimistic but won’t hold back my criticism of what I see going… Read more »
Dissenter
Just goes to show that someone needs to give Raul/Edu/Arteta the same treatment they gave Guendouzi – bash them publicly.
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Who bashed Guendouzi publicly?
The stats
Mikel Arteta’s Arsenal rank top for the percentage of turnovers ending in a foul this season on 7.8.
since Unai Emery’s departure as Arsenal head coach, that figure has actually risen to 8.2%. Since November 21, not only are Arsenal the leading foulers per turnover lost in the league, they are also 0.9% clear of the next closest teams – Manchester City
Julien Laurens states clearly that this is a clash between ‘a stubborn player and a stubborn manager’. However the board, against their wish to keep Guen, will consider selling the player if he can’t apologize to the manager.
Deductions: We’ll back Arteta against Guen even though they’re both committing the same crime.
So let’s sell Guen and hope Arteta never experiences this again. Let’s hope he has 30 years of coaching where all his players will be meek lambs that ask ‘how high’ whenever he says ‘jump’.
Ishola
I was just wondering if a 21 year old defender running out his contract shouldn’t raise red flags.
For all you know the lad has spoken to Guendouzi and is telling Arsenal to do one. Take your self-righteous ‘class” and stick it where the sun don’t shine.
Malong Sarr should replace Holding
Olumide
The selective leaking of information [from Arsenal] amounts to a public castigation.
If we are going to sell him then his transfer value needs to be protected as his right to a little privacy on the way out.
Wenger used to move out players and no one will hear a squeak about what happened. That was the classy way of doing it.
Dissenter No I quash bullshit narrative from your sort who conjure a ‘truth’ from absolutely nowhere. Not once have I stated exactly what guidelines Guendouzi has failed to adhere, I’m merely reacting to the noise coming from significant sources. You’re taking that noise and making up a counter to it because it suits your brain dead ideas you’ve been peddling for a hot minute. Where are those quotes from Arteta on Guendouzi that Pep would never come out with again? OH THATS RIGHT….it was another one of your bullshit statements that had no substance when pressed. Instead you fucked off… Read more »
With stars aligned and some ambitious business this could happen this summer; Sell/Funding: Özil loan to Fenerbace/US save 150k –> Auba salary. Partey – swap Lacazette P. Mari 8m – Elneny – 8m Depay – 30m – Guendozi to PSG 35m Thiago – 30m – Miki 10m Roma – Guendozi 5m – Kolasinac 15m Cavani Salary – 300k – Sokratis 3m – Arsenal funding 1y. Özil salary. Ceballos – 30m – Torreira – 30m Imagine this squad: Aubameyang Cavani* Depay* Martinelli Nketiah Pepé Saka Thiago* Thomas* Ceballos Xhaka Willock Tierney Luiz Mustafi Soares Maitland Holding Saliba Bellerin Squad: Chambers, Mari,… Read more »
Tactical fouls is what kumbaya boys do, very sneaky cowardly
men with longstuff are Maupey, Vardy type fouls and get away with
This summer Arsenal really should push out Ozil, any club willing to pay 100 – 150k salary. Afc take the rest. It’s what United is doing with Sanchez salary.
Get it done.
Many different views on Saka. I see him as a De bruyne type of player. And hope he will end up in a midfield of 3.
CC
You retreat better than most brilliant military strategists, I give you credit for that.
No one back-tracks better than you on this blog.
Cheerio
Guns of Hackney,
My knowledgeable sources inside the club tell me that, while Guendouzi is indeed, as you put it, both spotty and a cunt, he is emphatically not a virgin.
Dissenter
I retreat from absolutely nothing, just more bollocks from your trap as hit the evacuate button on a topic again.
Those quotes? Oh nvm “cheerio” you’re off again. Shocker
Dissenter The selective leaking of information [from Arsenal] amounts to a public castigation. If we are going to sell him then his transfer value needs to be protected as his right to a little privacy on the way out. Wenger used to move out players and no one will hear a squeak about what happened. That was the classy way of doing it. — As far as I’m concerned, this is no evidence of public bashing. And for one reason: You can’t produce a direct quote from any of them. How can you say someone bashed another person publicly when… Read more »
*can’t
“As far as I’m concerned, this is no evidence of public bashing. And for one reason:
You can’t produce a direct quote from any of them. How can you say someone bashed another person publicly when you can even produce direct quotes? Information gets leaked all the time in different organizations. It doesn’t mean the organization is responsible for all the leaks. And talking about Wenger moving players quietly, do you remember one guy who’s currently Juve’s first keeper? Leaks galore.”
Facepalm…
We’ve got basically the club’s mouthpiece…Ornstein saying He has to apologize before he gets back into the squad, Arteta saying nothing has changed (meaning he hasn’t apologized) as reported by Ornstein, gunnerblog e.t.c.
Similar to the Koscienly news..hardly would you get direct quotes, but they pass the messages onto trusted journalist.
Unaai, The difference is that I did not ask my team member to publicly apologise to me. He was in the wrong, but going into a meeting ready to antagonise him would have resulted in open warfare. As a manager you have to know which battle to pick. Somebody should have told Arteta. “Have a private meeting with the kid, if necessary take with a senior player as an arbitrator. Listen to the kid, and even if you disagree to some of his grievance show some empathy. You are more likely to get the result that you want.” Instead we… Read more »
“Szczesny, who spent 11 years in north London before leaving for Juventus in 2017, told Arsenal’s In Lockdown podcast: “He wasn’t exactly happy about [the selfie] and looking back at it I would never do it again. But I think I was 21 or 22 year old at the time and you really enjoy those kind of things and it was great for me back then. Now looking back at it, it was probably childish and I know he wasn’t happy with that one at the time. No punishments whatsoever, but he let me know. might not be exactly accurate… Read more »
Val What exactly is your idea of how Guendouzi should be dealt with? Because here’s a kid that had a sit down meeting with Edu and the Manager only to worsen the view of himself were led to believe. Are you claiming that’s a lie? If not, then how do you manage a 20 year old who acts in a disapproving way, is called on it, doubles down on it, then refuses to own his actions in the form of an apology and recommitment to the clubs new culture? For years Arsenal fans have been left feeling shortchanged by the… Read more »
My sources tell me Val manages inmates in a prison.
Keep the team calm or open warfare.
Wilshere’s Mum you’re going to be very disappointed if you’re hoping for that much action, sir! (Or m’aam)
Valentin
“Instead we have two pretend alpha males in a futile contest and nobody willing to back down. De-escalation does not mean lowering your standard, but it starts by making the other feel like you understand and respect him, even if you don’t.’
Have you changed the tailors cutting your 500 bucks suits tuxedos recently?
Why am I agreeing with you tens times in a row?
I don’t even care if Arteta wins the argument, he’s entitled to that from the board – 6 months into his tenure. The point is that it hasn’t been managed properly.
There’s been no need for the incessant leaks about what the player has or hasn’t done. If he’s out of the team then he’s out, if a professional organization can’t find a way to deal with a 20/21 yr old kid who’s had a bit of bad behavior then what’s the point. Leaking stuff like “if he doesn’t apologize” he’s off is such kindagarten behaviour if you ask me. Young players are always going to give you issues, it’s how you deal with it and get them back on track that’s very important. I really hope certain posters here know… Read more »
I think the point here is simply the smearing campaign, deal with him internally and not let the whole world know you’ve got issues with a kid.
How will other players react to this campaign? Or other potential players, because what we can show potential players is the Arsenal name and frankly nothing else. If players see we are using journalist to do their dirty work, it definitely becomes an issue.
Even Messi is pissed off at Bartomeu over the smear campaign against him.
The pro-Matteo crowd would be eaten alive if they had to manage a squad of footballers.
Arteta doesn’t need to back down on this. He sets the rules, they must be obeyed. If Guendouzi doesn’t agree, he doesn’t play.
‘Have a nice chat and give up on your principles’ is absolutely atrocious leadership on any level.
The Guen issue has been dealt with well. He’s been given chance after chance, he has consistently let his managers down, now he’ll be moved on.
That is good leadership. It sets the tone. It shows no one is above the rules.
I don’t like the way Arsenal are dealing with the Guendouzi situation. He’s only a kid and things like this should be dealt with internally. Leaking things as they’re doing will only de-value him and turn him against Arsenal more.
Bad for both parties.
There hasn’t been a smear campaign against him.
He has been dropped. Same as plenty of others that have found there way back.
I swear man, same people vilifying Wenger for his soft approach are now like embarrassing mothers with their disobedient boys.
It’s funny how some jokers compare Guendo to Willock ….
Switch the roles and let’s say Willock was the one with issues with Arteta and I bet ya that it won’t be the likes of PSG and Barca linked you him but rather the A list elite clubs like
Blackburn
Stoke
Charlton Athletic …
Sorry Joe didn’t mean to rate you like that 😂
Godfather, if Joe Willock was behaving the same way, he’d get the same treatment.
What you can get away with at Arsenal isn’t based on who you are linked with.
Edison Cavani in 2020?
Seriously?
Like fucking seriously?
Why the fcuk are people Pro-Guendouzi ? He is not the second coming of Xavi is he . He is a spoiled brat . Also if he has suitors like Barcelona than good for him , maybe he’ll learn . You know who else went there Alex Hleb , he ended his career at Brimingham City. Talent doesnt matter jack shit its your attitude and right now his attitude isnt right and Arteta has done exactly what is right for the club.
Divine, Barca has been a career ender for Song, Hleb, Overmars, and Petit (McGuane)
The Godfather,
Gnabry wasn’t just linked with Stoke, he went to Stoke, under Lord Pulis no less.
Now look at him.
Willock is developing nicely, even if he isn’t quite (yet?) football’s second coming.
Why was Edu even involved in any meeting with this kid after that Brighton incident? Why was Mikel not capable of dealing with that minor issue by himself? Did Mikel inexperience cause him to overreact causing other members of staff to get involved? The incompetence that’s on display by this lot is staggering. These jokers don’t know that fans are seeing the incompetence on display. Raul turning up at Saka signing a contract extension is the biggest one to date. Didn’t trust them from the moment they asked Emery to don’t play Ozil and failed to support him after the… Read more »
Except now he has been training alone, shopped around in swap deals.
Has he behaved badly? According to the media. YES
But, it should have been done internally, so that when you want to sell him, you sell big.
We are not goingto get close to £25 million for him now, but if we’ve handled this better we could have gotten at least £35 million for a young French international.
Based on absolutely no inside knowledge whatsoever my feeling is that a club has come in and expressed strong interest in Guendouzi at a reasonably attractive price. Arsenal is willing to sell as Arteta is looking for a midfield upgrade, and Guendouzi wants to go as he isn’t getting the superstar treatment he got under Emery.
The disciplinary/character “issues” are just a figleaf to enable a smooth transfer.
GunnerDNA, Edu is the technical director, he is Arteta’s boss. He oversees the whole football operation. That’s why he’s there.
Raul is basically the CEO, that’s why he was at the signing of Saka. It is standard that a man in his position be at a major Arsenal event.
The Backpass, Arteta has dealt with it internally.
A football club has about 100 people at a training ground at any given time.
There is no way to keep the details of a player secret from the media.
If no one knew what was going on with Matteo, people would be making an even bigger deal out of this.
I think what many fail to appreciate is this Guen issue is a real stinker and will leave a sore taste eventually whether Arteta wins or not. Even on this blog people are split on the issue. It shows there’s a case for his stance anyway you look at it.
And nobody hates Arteta. If there are people like that they would have been raising a dust about Ozil’s treatment.
Words, it’s a character and behaviour issues. I can assure you.
To think Guendozi os the only football in top flight football in the Top 6 leagues with this so called “bad attitude” is very funny.
The only thing is that most of them keep whatever is going on internally and when opportunity arises, sell them without drama.
The Backpass
We’ve got basically the club’s mouthpiece…Ornstein saying He has to apologize before he gets back into the squad, Arteta saying nothing has changed (meaning he hasn’t apologized) as reported by Ornstein, gunnerblog e.t.c.Similar to the Koscienly news..hardly would you get direct quotes, but they pass the messages onto trusted journalist.
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What Ornstein and Arteta said about the issue amounts to public bashing?
Dissenter
How should Arteta have managed the issue?
GunnerDNA Why wouldn’t a senior figure be present when communicating to a player that he’s treading a fine line? It reinforces the sentiment that his behaviour isn’t in keeping with the whole clubs standards, not just Arteta’s. It’s not the first misdemeanour, it’s a handful (that we know of). If Guendouzi thought it was a case of Arteta simply being a bit harsh on him then the presence of senior management should’ve alerted him to the seriousness of his malcontent. His reaction? To leave both his manager, and a senior exec with a lower opinion of him than before the… Read more »
Arteta has handled the situation as he deemed fit and those in the know ain’t criticising him for not cuddling a troublesome kid footballer. It’s kinda weird that a lot of posters here acting like we are dealing with febregas. One even said guendiuzi’s former coach’s comment in his behaviour is the same with that of Tony pulis on gynabry forgetting that no one in the club is complaining about guendiuzi’s football but attitude. To even compare gynabry’s case to guen’s makes me wanna throw up. Like Olumide posted, guen’s goons can’t come up with any direct quote from Arteta… Read more »
“A football club has about 100 people at a training ground at any given time.There is no way to keep the details of a player secret from the media.“
Are you sure? Because reading some of the stuff on here it seems Arsenal own several news outlets and are spinning webs.
“Pro Mateo crowd”…
This place and always wanting to place name tags on folks who don’t agree with their opinion. Almost Juvenile like
CC, people get themeselves in knots.
Wenger was soft
Arteta is mean
Matteo is just a lot soul
The football CEO shouldn’t be at the Saka signing, this is incompetence
No elite club in the world allows bad behaviour to go unchecked.
Also interesting no one mentions that Arteta has already forgiven a huge bust-up in Dubai. He brought AMN back in from the cold for lateness. He has brought Pepe in and out.
What’s the difference between Willock & Elneny? I’m genuinely curious. Literally the only thing the boy has in abundance is his energy. He’s not a great tackler, passer of the ball, doesn’t really have great vision & yet he’s rated by some over Guen? The only 3young talents we have in this squad are Guen, Saka, & Martinelli. (Tierney & Pepe if you regard them as young talents). I’d be shocked if the rest become starters for us. Shocked. Squad players, maybe, but you can buy those anytime. Reason I’ll never understand why an Nketiah would be getting starts over… Read more »
Pedro “There is no way to keep the details of a player secret from the media.If no one knew what was going on with Matteo, people would be making an even bigger deal out of this.” Actually, there is, Fine him or something and let him train with the squad, end of season then sell. Wenger did this with Szczesny. Arthur at Barca was said to have Gonorrea but the club kept saying he had Groin injury, till it was forgotten. We aren’t the only club with a player with attitude problems, we are just the only one foolish to… Read more »
Bati, when you are having a debate about the topic of Matteo, it’s fair to address the group that are banging the drum for the player as pro. Hardly an inaccurate summary of a collective view.
Backpass, last time I checked, catching an STI is not an attitude issue.
Interesting that your main concern is that Matteo can train with everyone. Very kind of you to care about his wellbeing.
“This place and always wanting to place name tags on folks who don’t agree with their opinion. Almost Juvenile like”
Childish behaviour tbh. I’d be pissed if the boy left because we have a green manager who’s learning how to handle characters. Pissed.
““Pro Mateo crowd”… This place and always wanting to place name tags on folks who don’t agree with their opinion. Almost Juvenile like”
It’s sad really, if you have an opposing view you are viewed as Pro( whatever the discussion).
“What’s the difference between Willock & Elneny? I’m genuinely curious.”
Is it joke Friday already?
Willock is like 20….give the man some time.
Oh and he’s done very well in hist first full season in the first team.