Rugged Arsenal defensive performance. Say what?

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My oh my did I drink some booze last night, so much apologizing to do today.
But, the show goes one, and if getting blind drunk in the name of an away win for Arsenal in the Premier League is what happened, then so be it.

Arsenal beat Wolves away from home (YES). I think it’d be fair to say that the game represented one of the best performances under Mikel Arteta thus far. Not because Wolves are some sort of iconic team that are impossible to beat, more that they are exactly the sort that causes us problems time and time again. Well disciplined, structured, and extremely powerful. They are a team that plays to your weaknesses and they are very good at it.

The show Mikel Arteta put on was perfectly boring for the most part and I absolutely loved it. We largely controlled possession in the first half, we didn’t do anything risky, almost to a fault. Dani Ceballos spent most of the half recycling the ball through his defense. Mustafi, who made a horrendous error inside the first 12 seconds of the game had zero ambition in his passing. We didn’t want to make mistakes and we didn’t want to give away possession. Wolves seemed to play along, I think their game plan was focused on letting us have the ball and capitalizing on mistakes with a vicious counter.

It didn’t really happen all half, if anything, we had the better chances. Auba nearly turned a ball in from a corner, then Eddie ripped a brilliant low shot Patricio pushed onto his post. We took the lead from a slightly deflected Tierney cross, Bukayo Saka hung on the edge of the box and turned his lopping shot over the keeper. It was a beautiful piece of skill from the newly contracted teenager.

We came out for the second like we normally do. Very nervous. Wolves realized they had to play us and they turned up the heat. We didn’t collapse, but we certainly struggled to keep possession. We made a lot of unforced errors, fluffing 6-yard passes, making sloppy tackles, just generally making poor decisions.

This time, the manager made some bold decisions that paid off. He took off Kieran Tierney, who was having a tough time against Traore, and bought on AMN. I think the move threw a lot of people, but it looked like the reasoning was the blistering acceleration he has against a player who was starting to control the game a little. It proved to be a great decision, AMN threw himself into the challenge and stood up to the test, it really softened the threat of Traore.

He also took off Saka and Soares for Bellerin and Willock. The additional fitness at right-back served its purpose and Willock’s engine kept the ball moving with a little more purpose in the from three. The final roll of the dice saw Torreira make his long-awaited return, with Lacazette making an arrival. The Urgauaguan looked very fit and ready to offer the team something. Lacazette also showed up. Within 3 minutes, he picked up a Willock cross, took a tough into space and finished across goal. It was a super way to finish the game.

So Arsenal took another 3 points away from home and scored two goals against a team that hasn’t conceded at home since January. Arsenal now sit 7th in the Premier League, 3 points from 6th, and 6 from 5th.

So what are the important takeaways?

Well, we have a good structure at Arsenal. We are no longer reliant on our individuals, we are a team, and there’s a solid base to work from with an actual vision for how we should play the game. It is not perfect by a long way, but as it stands, it’s allowing the coach to extract bruising defensive performances from a squad of players people said were uncoachable. Now, that doesn’t mean we’re going to be winning every game for the rest of the season, but it does mean if things go our way (sendings off/injuries), we have a chance against anyone on our day. We’ve beaten Wolves and United, we gave Chelsea a great game which we were very unlucky in, hopefully, we can show our teeth against Leicester and Spurs.

Arteta’s job in the back half of the season was the make us defensively strong and difficult to beat. I think he’s achieved that. The goal difference under Arteta for his 16 games is +12 versus Emery’s -4 (17 games). We’ve gone from conceding 1.64 goals a game to 0.81 with the basically the same group of players. There’s still a lot of work to do, we need to be able to control a game for the full 90minutes, we need to be more productive in the final 3rd and I think we’re still a little shaky defending set-pieces. But what isn’t in doubt is the manager had an idea and he’s implementing it very well. Every one of those players on the pitch yesterday bought into the vision, you can see how they pay attention to his instructions. They are seeing the fruits of their labour, which is so incredibly important. Player buy-in, especially with the kids, is essential to the rebirth of Arsenal football club.

The individual performances have been great as well. Emi Martinez has been nothing short of excellent. He’s a catcher, which makes him very handy from set-pieces. He controls his box, he’s quick off his line and his giant frame makes him tough to score against. He was brilliant yesterday.

I thought David Luiz put in a massive shift yesterday, his calmness on the ball and leadership helped us through some very sticky moments. Even Mustafi had a very good game outside the brain fart in the first minutes.

Saka, Ainsley, Eddie, Soares, Auba… they all showed up when it mattered. We actually put in a battling performance. Something I wasn’t sure we were capable of under this iteration of players.

There are still some problems. Our midfield just isn’t where it needs to be. We struggle to dominate physically, we still lack a good connection to attack, and the passing often crumbles under pressure. But considering what we achieved yesterday, it’s hard to be too brutal. There are also individuals that are always going to be problematic. I don’t want to pick on people, but Kola really was poor yesterday. He looked scared, there was a moment with KT complained he was left with two players to deal with. I also thought there were a few occasions when it looked like he wasn’t putting his all into sprinting back. Still, what can you do? The squad is the squad.

The real shame of the restart is that we didn’t get to see what the plan against City could have looked like, it was a similarly boring game until the bad things happened. Also, if we’d been had a better start, maybe we hold onto the leader at Brighton. Those three points, 6 if you look at the whole season, are the difference between 7th and a Champions League place.

Anyway, a huge win for Arsenal. The decision to hire Arteta was a good one, I’ve banged that drum for 6 months. We don’t matter though, the players do, they are the one’s making statements about their belief in their new head coach. That’s what is most important. They are going to war for him. They are now a team. They are all getting smarter and better as players.

Mikel outshithoused a pro that many wanted at Arsenal. Under Emery, we played Wolves at home and they had 24 attempts at our goal, and we squeaked out a 1-1 draw. Arteta fixed Arsenal’s defensive structure in 16 games, something the experience of Emery couldn’t manage in 18 months. He is starting to cast doubt on the idea that this squad could not have made top 4 if he’d been in at the start of the season.

Still plenty of work to do, there are still shock losses on the horizon, but what you saw yesterday is the start of things to come. Put a new set of players in there and there’s no reason we can’t start aiming higher next season. Also, does anyone still wish we’d hired Jose Mourinho?

Right, see you in the comments. x

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CG

Re. Wolves.

Excellent counters away from home , pretty dire at Molineux.
Even Hudds Town beat them 2 zero last season at their ground.

Workmanlike display from Arsenal.
Deserved collector of 3 points.

Under Arteta – Arsenal could potentially in the next 24 months be the best of the rest outside the Top 4- with Newcastle Utd the dark horses.

That Top 4 of Liverpool, City ,Chelsea & Man United looks locked in for possibly 5 years.

We will be fighting over scraps if it all clicks.

Redtruth

Correction: Arsenal are still below Wolves lol.lol

Redtruth

CG
“That Top 4 of Liverpool, City ,Chelsea & Man United looks locked in for possibly 5 years.”

May as well.have kept Wenger if we are going to remain locked out of the top 4..

CG

RT

“”””May as well.have kept Wenger if we are going to remain locked out of the top 4..””””

Our Wenger never got this fanfare and these plaudits when he won away 2 zero against the likes of Wolves.

He did it for X 2 decades without breaking sweat.

How folk’s perspective and targets change when lesser lights are in charge of the club.

Foxes next.

bacaryisgod

For some reason, watching Saka, Nketiah, Maitland-Niles and Willock yesterday sent me on a flashback to the 1988-89 academy-raised youth brigade of Rocastle, Thomas and Hayes. Fast, direct and with no small amount of skill, it’s great to see these young players blend in so comfortably with the more senior members of the squad. We might still be a long way from City or Liverpool but it feels like this season might be a stepping stone back into the Top 4 finish next season. As for Folarin Balogun, this is such a tricky one. Feels a little like Andy Cole… Read more »

Jamie

Does “Foxed next” imply you think we’ll lose?

Jamie

Foxes* next

Graham62

CG

Wolves were not the Wolves of today when Wenger was at the helm.

Times have changed.

Surely even you can see that.

Champagne Charlie

“Deflection and a lucky finish. If you tell me he can do this 9 times out of 10, you’re a liar“ Can’t tell if this is satire or a genuine POV you’re offering about Saka’s goal. Does that mean every goal that can’t be scored 9/10 is deemed “lucky”? Embarrassing if so. Dissenter Downplaying Wolves are you? Not like they’ve been getting smoke blown up their arse for 18 months with Nuno getting called elite and their squad being held against ours, coming out miles on top. Now they’re mid table – despite literally challenging for top 4? Some take… Read more »

Jamie

Southampton defensive masterclass today. 100% commitment. Incredible stuff. I hope they can hold on.

Receding Hairline

Never been a huge fan of Gabriel Jesus…think City will suffer if they replace Aguero with him. Good player but levels below Aguero.

Jamie

Receding, you watching? Thrilling game! I love a super resolute defensive performance when one team gets hammered for 90 mins.

TR7

Southampton players put their bodies on the line to defend their one goal lead. Tremendous effort.

Receding Hairline

Lol Nah Jamie.. Backs against the wall football isn’t for me. Feels like the attacking team got cheated. To be fair to the Saints they did score a goal so…

Tom

Arteta beat Southampton, Southampton just beat Pep ………the unavoidable conclusion must be Arteta is truly world class then.
Boom!
Can’t argue with statistical science.

Markymark

If we Get a good solid lump of a midfielder who can break up play and add a shield and I think we are starting to get there
After the Brighton game I was very down on Arteta but he’s pulling it around and the stats don’t lie. Halving the conceding rate is Going great Guns

Wengers Beach Bod

i don’t understand how posters here are saying we got lucky yesterday? It was a great performance from the lads! They worked hard and made their own luck just as simeone sides have done for years or jose sides (circa 2005-2012) even when we played atletico in the semi final they got through by the skin of their teeth we had some great chances that oblak managed to keep out. We all praised that as a fantastic resolute performance just as the pundits did too. Take it as it was Arteta pulled off a result many on here thought impossible… Read more »

Jamie

I hear you, Receding. Much easier to stomach when it isn’t Arsenal being pounded though!

Tremendous team effort. The Southampton goal was Luis Suarezesque. Caught the keeper off the line from 40 yards out.

Thomas

The amount of Arteta dickriding today is remarkable. You would think he won a title or something. Maybe “beat the mighty wolves” trophy.

Nelson

MC’s midfield without De Bruyne looks average. Fernandinho should resign.

Pierre

Receding hairline final words will be ” but Emery had 70pts and made the europa league final”…

And then he will close his eyes and will be muttering under his breath , 70pts …70pts …and then nothing.

Receding Hairline

Pierre I know you find facts you don’t like irritating so there’s that. Once Arteta matches or surpasses that next season don’t worry I won’t ever utter it again. I know it hurts the whole 18 months of hell narrative you guys run shamelessly here.

TR7

Emery’s 18 months was hell.

NJ Gooner

It was an encouraging performance and fully justifies Pedro’s upbeat assessment. I thought we’d lose 2-1 and was on tenterhooks when we were leading 1-0. There’s no doubt that things have improved on several fronts, collectively and individually. Kudo to MA. And Mustafi’s defense is one of them, with the exception of the occasional brain fart. Let’s face it, he always has a mistake in him. But it is quite clear that his ball distribution is terrible. That kind of thing didn’t used to be a problem when we had players like Santi Cazorla who could find pockets of space… Read more »

Guns of SF

Wolves then Foxes
LOL

Receding Hairline

Yes it was TR7 ….heard you the first 800 times

One can’t argue with facts though… 70 points and EL final isn’t actually an opinion. Just facts. Wonder why it irritates… Lol

CG

“”””Wolves then Foxes
LOL””””

I am glad someone pays attention.

RodneyKing

Hasenhüttl just got one over Pep… he must be the better manager! By the same token, Nuno must be too. Therefore Arteta must be better than Pep. 😂

Every dog has its day.

salparadisenyc

“Emery’s 18 months was hell.”

I concur.

We had “elite purgatory” under Wenger followed by Purgatory under Emery.
No other way to paint that.

Champagne Charlie

Quite something that there’s Arsenal fans still wanting to romanticise Emery’s tenure are the club.

Get in the bin, he was shite and thankfully he’s gone.

Ishola70

We just hope this isn’t a false dawn and Arteta can get this team to perform consistently next season to aim to get into top four. We have had false dawns before. Wenger going back three at the tail end of a season a few years back and winning games and fans were expectant that it could go into the following season. It didn’t. And yes even Emery and his unbeaten run in his first season and fans singing “Arsenal are back” at Fulham. He fails ultimately. We need to see this team perform consistently over a whole season before… Read more »

The Godfather

Santi is having a real rough time vs Barca.
His lack of pace and athleticism is hurting him getting on the ball as it is being played by him.

Griezmann on fire with a beaut from Lionel.
3-1 second half starting

Receding Hairline

70 points… EL final. No romanticising or embellishments. Simply cold hard facts.

His team outscored Spurs and Chelsea in the league… Cold hard facts.

Why does this make anyone uncomfortable? Lol

The Godfather

It’s funny how just a few weeks ago some people were saying we shouldn’t compare era’s (Emery vs Arteta) … but now after a well deserved winning streak, the same people can’t stop doing it.

Again the comparisons are foolish.

Especially In these times of covid.

But whatever each to their narrative ..

Ishola70

The Godfather

“Santi is having a real rough time vs Barca.
His lack of pace and athleticism is hurting him getting on the ball as it is being played by him.”

Really?

I heard he was still prime on here and should still be playing for Arsenal in the EPL.

Receding Hairline

Ishola I have been saying just that since morning but apparently I am romanticising Emery’s time at the club. People acting like beating wolves was the dawn of something new or something unbecoming, even players we all know will let us down in the not too distant future are getting absolution. One would think something that has never happened before at Arsenal just did. Like we have never gone on better winning runs. On paper those games are games AFC are supposed to win. Something worth crowing about is sustaining results and performances over the course of a season, when… Read more »

Receding Hairline

No Pedro, that’s an opinion.

Facts is games won and lost, points total..etc

We aren’t exactly setting new standards of football right now are we? The football is pretty bland, you wrote that yourself, your words not mine.

Is that the identity you want for Arsenal, a bland footballing identity where we are petrified of expressing ourselves knowing we aren’t good enough to compete if games become open? Do you think this should be the template going forward?

salparadisenyc

The cold hard facts regarding Emery is he managed to ultimately loose the dressing room in under a season, which then carried over to the next, pit stopping in Baku.

Thorough

PEDRO. I’m sure you’ll love this from Tim Stillman of 7am kickoff ‘Anyway, back to the football, uhh, yeah, we won! And for those of you who think “managers don’t matter as much as you think” and that “what’s needed at Arsenal are just better players” LOL. I literally just laughed out loud. Because not only has Mikel Arteta benched two of his best players but he’s playing an 18 year old, out of position, starting a 21 year old in center forward, playing Auba wide left, put two left backs as wing-backs, rehabbed the career of one-time fan pariah… Read more »

The Godfather

“ Godfather, Arteta and Emery have just about done the same amount of EPL games this season, and given the covid context, we look a lot better.” With all due respect that makes no sense. Wait we look better in Europe, where we crashed out to the mighty Olympiakos compared to beating Napoli and Valencia on the way to the finals last season? I’m not gonna trash wins against Wolves and Sheffield United on the road, but there is a huge diff playing in an empty stadium than having the house packed with thousands of raging fans. Don’t even know… Read more »

The Godfather

“ The Godfather“Santi is having a real rough time vs Barca. His lack of pace and athleticism is hurting him getting on the ball as it is being played by him.”Really?I heard he was still prime on here and should still be playing for Arsenal in the EPL.” As I was replying to Pedro he just got pulled right after half time. We all love him but he can’t keep up with the flow in La Liga talk less of the high octane EPL. It was quite sad watching him go for a 50-50 vs Semedo. His legs just aren’t… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

“I heard he was still prime on here and should still be playing for Arsenal in the EPL.“

Obviously not got a finger anywhere near the La Liga pulse..

The Godfather

Without the fine play of the Villarreal goalie plus some poor finishing, Barca would be ahead by at least five or six

The Godfather

Messi
4-1.

La Liga is a joke

The Godfather

Oops VAR intervention … No Goal
Still 3-1.

Redtruth

Man City getting turned over by Southampton puts extra pressure and expectation on Arsenal to do the same…..

No more excuses, if he fails then it’s curtains for the sauce.

Henry Root

Klopp and Guardiola were novices in their first jobs.
Another stupid observation

Pierre

Thorough That’s link from 7am is an interesting read regarding the amount of work the team are putting in since Arteta arrived at the club My fear is that we may blow a gasket as it is near impossible to keep that intensity up. When klopp arrived he demanded constant pressing and high intensity for 90 minutes, but he came to the conclusion that in the premier league it will take it’s toll on the players so he backed off a little. The figures look great but football is not just about running , pressing and high intensity though of… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Godfather

Are you taking the piss about Cazorla? Lol

The Godfather

Champagne Charlie:

I love Santi. One of my fav Gunners of all time. I didn’t even see the banter going on about him B4 posting about the game.

I was just being honest. Father Time will always be an unbeatable foe!

Champagne Charlie

Godfather

I’m going to start calling you Stevie Wonder then, he’s been immense this season. Absolutely immense.

The Godfather

Champagne Charlie,

Immense?

You’ve gotta qualify that statement in context.
Listen I’m not gonna bag Santi, luv the man too much to do that.

Lemme leave it at, today was not a good day for him .

Redtruth

If this Tim fellow thinks Ozil is one of our best players then he’s off his trolley..

Champagne Charlie

Godfather Was snooping twitter for some of that context and here you go: “6th June 2020: Santi Cazorla is the only player in #LaLiga this season with 30+ shots, 30+ chances created, 30+ tackles made and 30+ take-ons completed.“ + “28th June 2020: Santi Cazorla among Villarreal players in La Liga this season: – most progressive passes (190) – most passes into final third (150) – most chances created (55) – most passes into box (42) – most assists (7)” + “1st July 2020: Santi Cazorla 19/20: – 12 Goals – 9 Assists No La Liga midfielder has contributed more… Read more »

Redtruth

Saka has one goal in the Premier league, not exactly dynamite.

I’ms still trying to figure out why he’s so goal shy…

Redtruth

Cazorla is one of those on his day players.
Too inconsistent and injury prone to qualify for A4sensl legend status.

The Godfather

Champagne Charlie, Leave numbers alone: Mesut Ozil and Bukayo Saka both have only one EPL goal to their name … Should we then classify their contribution to the cause as even? Or rank the time, place and against who they scored against as the same? Like I said be careful about numbers cuz they can be manipulated to serve any purpose. I’ve seen at least 12-15 Villa games this season, and I love Santi, but he can’t hack it no more in the rough and tumble EPL. That’s not sacrilege it’s just my opinion! Injuries and age have caught up… Read more »

Redtruth

How much is Saka valued and how big will his pay rise be..

The Godfather

“ Lol
You can’t
He’s been immense”

Undie I thought the sewers and the trailer parks were closed? Who let your sorry ass out?

The Godfather

Pedro:

Erm no Bro.

Stats do nothing to show he can still play in the EPL if not he would be in the league right now.

And weren’t you the one crying about cheerleading and not adding to the conversation. …. Be consistent my good man

The Godfather

Undie didn’t you whine like a whipped dog and say you ain’t coming back?

Miserable little gremlin … I know outside of your cyberspace your life is pretty empty and miserable …. anyway welcome back loser.

I’d hate to see in the papers for all the wrong reasons patsy

Ishola70

“Ishola back in his box as well after his little nibble? Hate to see it…”

I was as confused as you by Godfather’s comments tonight.

I’ve read that he has been having a productive season but I don’t watch him every week. Who the fuck wants to watch Villareal every week.

I think Godfather isn’t too taken on La Liga as a whole hence his the league is a “joke” comment.

The Godfather

These feeble arguments are so funny.

Now I’m restraining myself from going after a player I love because some are saying that he can still hack it in the EPL? Come on guys.

Now if you ask me is he a better option that Chaka, then the story changes

The Godfather

“ Godfather, that is true and bad form on my part.Saying numbers can be manipulated when they are as aggressively good as Santi’s is weak.”

Pedro again you are missing the point.

I’d ask you a simple question.

Do you think we should sign Santi Carzola based on the numbers you are referring to without putting them into context?

Simple Yes or No?

The Godfather

“ GobYeah. You cut me real deep. My silver cloud is coming here to school you every time you try to talk about things you don’t understand. Like aubameyang being better on the left Now I’ve got to show you how effective Santi is this season. Un 2 Gob 0” Again you said you were leaving right? What made ya come back eh? Yeah, you are lost without cyberspace and considering how churlish your persona is, that fact isn’t surprising but oh well😭😭😭. Auba has played how many games now, and with how many goals since the restart? Yeah so… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Godfather You left out the assists of both Saka and Ozil, are they “even” after you drop them in the mix? Do tell… Cazorla has been terrific this season in La Liga, that’s as far as I’m taking that statement because my thoughts about Arsenal etc are known. But to claim him unable to keep pace with the league he’s in when he’s absolutely balling is pretty daft. How much better does he need to be exactly? – Best midfielder at his club ✔️ – Best output of any midfielder in the league ✔️ – Recognised nationally and recalled to… Read more »

The Godfather

“ 22:23:20 Look. Are you saying that the highest performing midfielder in Spain wouldn’t get game time at the 7th best team in England?” This is why you should stick to cartoons. Again you’re making judgments based on numbers without drilling down to understand context. Who did he score the goals and bag the assists against? How many were penalty kicks? Are we talking garbage time goal or assists or in critical moments against quality teams. I could go on and on but you’re a simpleton and I’ve got better things to do than try and cast aspersions on a… Read more »

The Godfather

Charlie, Why are you people trying to make me make a case against Santi? I’m not gonna do it because it’s not my point. I’ve watched him play and I know the difference in pace and intensity between both leagues and know the kind of player he has been for Arsenal and don’t want him to hurt his legacy. I wonder what you would have said of Jesus Navas and Roberto “Goldado” who came to the EPL in their prime if stats are the main indicator of success … Oh yeah and just to further my case which I don’t… Read more »

The Godfather

Santi Carzola @ Arsenal (EPL GOALS)

17-18: 0
16-17: 2
15-16: 0
14-15: 7
13-14: 4

Okay I just posted numbers on Santi, so are we saying or expecting him to do better?
Since it’s all about numbers and no context 😂😂

Champagne Charlie

“Why are you people trying to make me make a case against Santi?“

What are you talking about? I’m disagreeing with your earlier statement:

“We all love him but he can’t keep up with the flow in La Liga talk less of the high octane EPL.“

I’ve made no case for his return, that ship sailed and my stance is clear on him leaving us. I’m very simply pointing out the absurdity of your claims about him in La Liga this season.

Champagne Charlie

Godfather

Elite argument there….

Overmars

Emery and Ljungberg: P17 W5 D7 L5 F24 A28 -4
Arteta: P16 W7 D6 L3 F25 A13 +12

Considering our two new defenders, Cedric and Mari haven’t played, the change is clear to see.

Although Mustafi, Luiz and Kolasinac individually aren’t the best defenders, I’m glad we’ve finally found a system that brings the best out of our centre halves. I’m convinced that if you throw in Sokratis or Holding, we’d still be just as good at the moment.

Great coaching from Arteta if you ask me.

The Godfather

Charlie since we are manipulating numbers (just for shits and giggles)

Do you know that Sergio Ramos has more goals than Antoine Griezmann?

Do you know that LUCAS Perez , yes that guy, is a top ten scorer in La Liga?

My point is that you can’t make a case based solely on numbers because they can be manipulated to suit whatever narrative you seek.

Jamie

#SantiGate

The Godfather

Charlie:

“ I’ve made no case for his return, that ship sailed and my stance is clear on him leaving us. I’m very simply pointing out the absurdity of your claims about him in La Liga this season.”

What’s absurd about saying that he can’t hack it in the EPL? If my reference point was ambiguous and not clearly stated then I apologize.

He can clearly still hack it against the lesser to middling teams in the Spanish league which is slower and less physical.

But the EPL is a whole diff argument.
That’s all I’m saying

Redtruth

Overmars

It should be Ljungberg and Arteta, you pleb..

The Godfather

Undie:

Do us a favor and go back to your trailer … I’m not even gonna bother reading your tripe and drivel.

Yeah you got me Santi is better than KDB and fleeter of foot than DaCoure and Bruno Fernandes.

WTF do I know.

Congratulations pal you’re a genius

Champagne Charlie

“Charlie since we are manipulating numbers (just for shits and giggles)“

Explain the manipulation.

You’re using goals scored as the ONLY metric of anything, I’m not doing anything of the sort and have given varied statistical support to a claim.

Is your argument that no stats are valid? Because literally every business in the world would disagree.

Also, earning a recall to the Spain National side isn’t a stat, but clear recognition of a players performance level. Unless that’s not how it works either now?

Do tell..

Jamie

Santi at 35 is still twice the player Ozil is though, right?

The Godfather

Charlie tell me how this observation from today’s game is causing such an uproar?

“ Santi is having a real rough time vs Barca.
His lack of pace and athleticism is hurting him getting on the ball as it is being played by him.”

Can anyone who watched the game dispute this fact!

The Godfather

“ Undie:Do us a favor and go back to your trailer … I’m not even gonna bother reading your tripe and drivel.”I can’t. Your mum is snoring too loud.
Un 2- Gob-0”

Seriously dude don’t ever bring my family especially my mother who is battling cancer into your bullshit!

I know you basic social skills but seriously don’t cross the line!

Last warning!

Redtruth

Defence Arsenal’s defensive issues have been well documented over the last few years and they have already conceded 34 league goals this season. During the first 13 league games under Emery, the Gunners conceded 19 goals (1.46 goals per game), with their opponents managing 218 shots (16.7 per game) and 73 shots on target (5.6 per game). Under Ljungberg, the Gunners let in eight goals in five games (1.6 goals per game), faced 69 shots (13.8 per game) and conceded 28 shots on target (5.6 per game). Arteta has started to improve their defence during his short time at the… Read more »

The Godfather

Undie,
We can do it anyway you want and take wherever it needs to go. Hell we can involve wives, kids and whatever …. I’m just saying watch where you tread.

I do not cross lines on people who are innocent and uninvolved. Why you would say something about someone’s mom over a football discussion is beyond me but whatever

Word is enough for the wise

Redtruth

Comparing Nicolas Pepe’s Arsenal stats under Unai Emery and Mikel Arteta After a difficult start to his Arsenal career, Nicolas Pepe is finally starting to show signs of realising his true potential under Mikel Arteta. Pepe joined the Gunners in a £72million deal in 2019 but failed to live up to expectations and eventually fell out of favour under Unai Emery. We’ve compared the 25-year-old’s stats under Arteta to those he recorded under Emery at Arsenal to see where he has improved. Under Emery Games: 16 Starts: 9 Sub appearances: 7 Goals: 3 Assists: 4 Minutes per goal: 315.3 Minutes… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

“Charlie tell me how this observation from today’s game is causing such an uproar?“

Well I can’t, but that’s because it’s not what I’ve quoted from you is it….

Look, Santi has had a brilliant season this season in La Liga by whatever metric there is to judge a player. Your argument against that has been supported by nothing outside of dismissing any and all in favour of him.

Been a bit awkward tbh, one of those things that just doesn’t deserve the time that it’s been given as the reality is that obvious.

Redtruth

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The Godfather

Charlie ,

Just to keep in context.

Six of Santi’s EPL goals were penalty kicks

Vs

Grenada
Espanyol
Mallorca
Osasuna
Betis
Valldolid

Again I’m not here to dig Santi, I’m just saying our numbers into context

The Godfather

*dog* Santi!

But he isn’t racking in goals against
Madrid, Athleti or Barca …

Or whatever other top teams in that league .

Anyway I’m done.

Luv you all!

RockyRoe

Un

What’s with the mum jokes to a stranger online? Bad fucking form.

But then from what I’ve read from you in here, is about your level. Also, I do remember you saying you won’t be posting here anymore, what happened?

Champagne Charlie

Godfather

Hold your L, you earned it.

Champagne Charlie

Lol Red thinks it’s January still.

Bojangles

I prefer to allow Arteta speak for himself

“At the moment, we don’t have the ability to batter teams for 95 minutes. If you are not able to do that you have to be very able to compete and be a team. A team means that the 11 who started and all of the subs really make a difference in the game.”