Four brutal games to decide our top 8 fate

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So after a rough start to the season, we’re now 3 wins on the bounce and we have an FA Cup semi-final against City to dread. The big smiles are out in force; now we get down to the real business end of the race for the top 8.

Wolves, Leicester, Spurs, then Liverpool.

That’s a beastly run, but for me, it’s perfect. Being able to smash Norwich 4-0 doesn’t tell you much about the coaching or the progression of the team, extracting any sort of points out of the next 4 games will.

Nuno has done a terrific job at Wolves. He’s made them a feared outfit, he’s built a squad using the dark arts of super-agent love, and it looks like it’s working out very nicely at a club that is just happy to be back at the top.

Arteta was very complimentary of the squad they’ve built and how they play.

I think they have shown in the past few years how consistent they have been with their performances. They are a group of players, and a club with a manager that have been doing exactly the same thing for many years and you can see their style of play, and a very clear identity of what they want to do,. They have been recruiting exactly the players they need in the positions to do what they want to do. They are a really difficult side to beat.

He’s obsessed with identity, probably because he inherited a club that was severely lacking one. I think in this case, it’s absolutely clear what Nuno is doing with his team. They defend very well, they have a lot of intensity, they are extremely disciplined and they are outrageous on the counter.

They also have a lot of good players, Jorge Mendes is clearly a better super-agent than the two clowns we have making reccos at Arsenal. Jota, Mendes, Jimenez, and Traore would all walk into our squad. They will all be problematic for us tomorrow.

We have some very good players ourselves, but arguably, none better than Auba. Arteta talks about him like he has the deepest football crush of his life on the players.

I don’t know, it is the way that I feel, the way that I communicate with him, the conversations that I have with him and the people around him. It is the energy I sense. It is just my opinion, things change in football very quickly but when you ask me in that moment how I feel about Auba’s future, in this moment I feel that he wants to continue with us and keep developing and help us to become a better team.

He’s also doubling down on him staying.

I think so, he needs to feel he belongs somewhere that he believes we can achieve the goals that he has individually and collectively for a long time. He is very settled in the city, his family are really happy here as well I think, and he is loved, respected and admired nay his team-mates, which is a huge thing to have at any football club. So that’s what gives me positivity, as well because I see the enjoyment he is having, the work-rate that he puts in all the time, and the decisions that he makes every time. So that is where my feelings are coming from.

James Olley at ESPN reckons the player wants £250k a week for 3 years. It’s expensive, but as a few pals in the Whatsapp Groups have said, players go on for longer now, Auba wasn’t brutalised as a young player, making his mark later in his career, he’s also very, very fit.

From a player perspective, he seems bought in. He looked very happy in the stands the other day. Arteta says he thinks the player can match Thierry for goals and trophies, I think he’s being serious-ish. He’s not here to be a top 8 manager, he wants to challenge. Whether you think that is jokes or not doesn’t matter, that’s the way he’s thinking about the project. He’s looking at Liverpool, not Wolves, as the benchmark for success.

Why the fuck not? Give me that over someone who has a Europa League comfort blanket. Ambition has strange ways of infecting people and convincing them they can do more than they can.

That sort of chat isn’t for now though, in this moment, we’ve just got to work out a way of moving through this section of the season unscathed with more than zero points.

The two things we have to deal with tomorrow are fairly obvious. How do you create a team that gives you zero space? How do you stop powerhouse players like Traore eating you up on the break?

It’ll be interesting to see whether he’s tempted to bring Torreira back into the mixer. Full back decisions will also be important. If you are going to be low on chances, you have to make sure the people in those positions can make the most of any space they create. You also have to be sure they have the right mobility against the power and pace. Could we see a start for Soares? Will he bring AMN into midfield? Would he risk starting Dani against a team that won’t afford him the luxury of space and time like Norwich?

I’m sure whatever we offer up tactically will be close enough, the big question is whether this squad is ready to deliver a 90-minute performance. There’s always a dip. There’s always a moment where the gameplan drops off the radar. If that happens tomorrow, we’ll be lucky to survive it.

So fingers crossed we see big response.

I was sent a press release from RunRepeat about the bias in football commentary. Alfred, my woke Swedish pal from The Arsenal Opinion podcast has been pulling me on the subject for 2 years, it’s now in a study format so you can read. The numbers are miserable.

  • When commentators talk about intelligence:
    • 62.60% of praise was aimed at players with lighter skin tone
    • 63.33% of criticism was aimed at players with darker skin tone
  • When commentators are talking about power they are 6.59 times more likely to be talking about a player with darker skin tone
  • When commentators are talking about speed they are 3.38 times more likely to be talking about a player with darker skin tone
  • When commentators talk about work ethic, 60.40% of praise is aimed at players with lighter skin tone

When you first hear about this, you think it’s just another woke agenda item, but then you start paying attention, and you hear it all the time.

This sort of study is important on two levels. Firstly, it shows that football commentary is too simplistic in its categorisations of players. I’ve said this many times before, the level of commentary and punditry is often not where the game is. It’s actually embarrassing if I’m honest. Compare Roy Keane analysing a game to someone that is actually working in the Premier League for a club. It’s chalk and cheese.

‘Bang his head against the wall if you can’t get a response’

‘They need a big man in the middle to make more tackles’

‘Not enough heart’

That’s before you get into the bias. So the learning for the TV stations for me is to first upgrade the level of the talent describing the game so it can better reflect what is actually going in the game or around the club.

It can be a bit of a grey area on describing physicality. This is a game that is built on power and pace, you have to be able to call it out, but you have to be equal. The fastest player in Germany a few weeks ago was a white guy call Lewandowski, but your rarely hear him described as a beast or a brute. Sterling, one of the higher-profile cases of bias, was vilified in the press for pushing his way out of Liverpool, or having a tattoo, or driving a nice car. Matteo G, lighter skinned, is genuinely a bit of a shit and fans are running to sympathise because he’s misunderstood and he just cares too much. I’m not sure Moise Kean was given that same benefit of the doubt.

The most important part about the bias in the commentary is the intelligence piece. Why? Because it filters down into coaching. How, in 2020, can there only be 5 bame managers in English football? There have been so many incredible black players, how are none of them coach material? It is a travesty. Work rate? Please. Intelligence? My word, look at the collective of dim white coaches that do the rounds over and over again. It is a collective blindness that needs addressing. There is no excuse, there is a huge talent pool, there are plenty of capable black players, and there is clearly a massive desire for them the breakthrough. Clubs need to be better about it.

Also, before I go, make sure you read these two articles if you’re bored. I write these with a lot of inputs, so the narratives are pretty sound. Share with your pals as well. Force your dog to read it, he’ll thank you later.

Raul: Bagman to Arsenal CEO. A story that gets to the heart of why Arsenal is in such a mess.

How LFC eclipsed Arsenal with less money + what we can learn 

P.S. Jose Mourinho claiming he knew his fully fit Champions League Finalist squad wasn’t good enough to beat Sheffield United away from him. You hate to see it.

Also, I’ll just leave this here.

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Tr4phy

Upstate Gooner

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Colney Gooner

Higher than Arsenal

Chris

You have to think that if we sold Auba, his goals need to be replaced. Either by a striker in his class which wouldn’t be cheap, fee or wages. Or internally form the club, now I don’t think anyone we have can replicate what Auba gives us. And I don’t think we are the finished article yet where his goals would be shared out across the team. Not with the current squad. It won’t just magically happen. There was many a discussion here about how Auba is a limited player and doesn’t show up against the big teams, I simply… Read more »

mb

6th position 😬

TR7

‘Matteo G, a white boy, is genuinely a bit of a shit and fans are running to sympathise because he’s misunderstood and he just cares too much. I’m not sure Moise Kean was given that same benefit of the doubt.’

Oh God ! Wokeness and virtue signalling is so cringe.

Redtruth

The table should start from December then you would see Arteta not doing so well.

Trap

Martinelli signs extension 😎

mb

Martinelli signs a new contract. Another youngster tied up after Saka. We need couple more + experience to compete top4 next season.

I really hope Auba stays.

Jamie

Terrific news about Martinelli. Him and Saka hopefully have a bright future with us.

Kay

Bring it on I say
COYG!!

Kay

Wow Greatnews on Martinelli

Redtruth

Saka hasn’t scored a single league goal in 22 appearances and he is supposed to be the future lol

TR7

Pedro I sympathesized much more with Ox when he was an Arsneal player trying to make a mark but failing to do so than I have ever sympathesized with Matteo’s situation. In fact never ever was color of their skin was ever a consideration. As for your arguments on use of words such as power, stamina and intelligence let us be honest – most player of African descent tend to be more athletic and powerful than others. It does not insinuate any form of racism -it is a ‘fact’. As for intelligence, intelligent players are termed as intelligent and not… Read more »

TR7

And for the media Pedro, I find most people in the media to be unintelligent, unimaginative and cliched in their analysis of most things. Most intelligent people in a society do not aspire to be journalists. They want to become investment bankers, lawyers, Doctors, civil servants, business tycoon etc. So let us not put too much emphasis on how the media use its labels.

Redtruth

You forgot Walcott who also lacks football intelligence.

Sid

Matteo isnt a whiteboy
Im telling you for free!

Champagne Charlie

Have to be very careful with topics come the end of your post today. Equality of opportunity is 100% the standard every facet of society (football included) should strive for. However idk if citing ‘how many black coaches are there’ is adequate enough verbiage to address such an issue. Needs many more threads pulled or the whole thing can descend quite quickly into a nonsense where encouragement is given to blanket facts with little to no context. It’s like the gender gap debate, nuance is extremely important. Otherwise it becomes a very lazy argument that undermines itself imo. Be shocked… Read more »

CG

TR7 2 PedRo 0

mb

Can someone explain why Martinelli’s extension when he had 4 years left?

Jamie

“Just read someone say Balogan might also be signing.”

This is impossible. Valentin’s sources confirmed the other day that Balogan announced he wasn’t signing a new deal with us.

Emiratesstroller

It is clear to me that Arsenal are putting their house in order regarding internal contracts. Martinelli becomes the fifth player whose contract with the club has been finalised. My guess is that we should be hearing in not too distant future that the club are also negotiating and finalising contracts with Aubameyang and Nkietah as well. Clearly the club are regulating contracts with the players that we wish to keep. That is an improvement on how business has been handled in the past. I am also confident that the club have got by now a fairly clear picture of… Read more »

CG

TR7 0 PedRo 0

Guns of SF

The article was shared on here a few days ago by Sid I think. The correlation is for former players wanting to be coaches. Those that the media dont qualify as intelligent, or smart, etc fare worse when getting coaching jobs. In this case the correlation is that white players fare much better, as they are smarter and intelligent based on the data that is presented. IF you are labelled a power player, tough, etc and compared to a smart, intelligent player- there is implicit or explicit bias when it comes to coaching and hiring. An intelligent players ( Sol)… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

mb

Martinelli may have signed a 5 year contract, but his wages were based on playing at U23 level when he joined the club.

Clearly Arsenal are regulating contracts in line with expectation and performance. That is a sensible thing to do if you want to hold onto players.

CG

Arsenal are clearly racist under this current regime.

That’s why they keep choosing white Spaniards to be the manager and there are no BAME coaches at the club despite having 50% of black players

Happy with that!

Redtruth

Emirattesstroller

You compliment Arsenal on doing the basics on which every club operates. Lol….

Sid

A draw is the minimum against wolves and spurs

TR7

‘There are some on here that do not like the reality of racial bias. Call it out, see what it is and make changes.’

Can you name 10 former black players who are ripe for football management but still can’t get a job ?

CG

PedRo

“”””CG, Ryan Garry is bame.””””

Tokenism?

CG

If Steve Round was black , I know he would not keep getting these plum jobs at top clubs.

Manchester United
Aston Villa
Derby co.
Everton
Arsenal
Newcastle United

Redtruth

Arsenal’s contract negotiations under Wenger were a Horror show.

TR7

Pedro

Let’s forget about our individual assessments. See I am not a pig-headed person. All I want is discussion based on facts. If you tell me 10 names who are great managerial potential and haven’t landed a job yet I am willing to concede that my assessment is wrong . Let us discuss facts before we reach to any conclusion. 10 names please !

CG

Everyone knows Spaniards are the most racist people on earth.

Guns of SF

The EPL is littered with this type of shit.
no Black coaches. no black refs. no black lines persons, etc. How many black assistant coaches are there? Can you answer that question?

Not to mention the continued racists in the stands.

I appreciate the new reporting app, Ive heard about.. at least some steps in the right direction.

Anyhow, the study was quite interesting. Think about it, its not that hard to see this.

Champagne Charlie

Pedro I don’t disagree with the questioning that comes from looking at the figures of representation. I’m always keener for “why” to be thoroughly uncovered than for claims of inequality or prejudice to be the accompaniment. I don’t think it’s as progressive as some people believe. Immediately it negates any nuance and it’s gone from discussion and genuine truth searching, to indulging blame culture. Also disagree on it being less nuanced than the gender pay gap. Literally sure, but to skim representational figures like that and immediately draw a conclusion is, in a word, unhelpful. Structures it all wrong, and… Read more »

TR7

‘The EPL is littered with this type of shit. no Black coaches. no black refs. no black lines persons, etc. How many black assistant coaches are there? Can you answer that question?’ I am not sure this is the right way to make an argument. There are hardly any Chineae coaches in football, does that mean footballing world in general sinophobic ? No, you got to take in to account that Chinese are not in to football. Similarly when making an argument on black managers, you got to give instances of black people who deserved to be managers but were… Read more »

CG

Arteta is clearly institutionally racist.
As is Pep as is Raul.

Since when have they employed black persons others than to be ‘ athletic’ players?

Our Wenger was not institutionally racist.
Ask George Weah.

Jamie

Put CG in the fucking bin already.

TR7

Pedro

Again, you are not giving me any names. Just because there have been only 5 managers of color does not necessarily prove your point. If you can’t cite even one real example, I am not sure I can buy your argument.

CG

Cant handle the truth there Jamie

Bit uncomfortable, eh?

Guns of SF

TR7 The study was making the connection between those hired as coaches who have a reputation in the media as smart, intelligent etc. The study shows how the media labels certain people based on skin color. There is a connection, whether its explicit or implicit. Asking a hard number, is ridiculous given the context of this study. We do not know that answer, for those coaches. No one is reporting that so and so candidate was NOT hired due to racism at certain teams. There is no data for that. Ask yourself, why arent there any more black or minorty… Read more »

Wasi

Pedro I do agree that there is at least some sort of racism but I think some of it might be overblown. Because however way you put it an African ( dark skin toned player ) will 9/10 times be more physically capable than someone of a European or Asian heritage. And the fastest guy in Germany btw is Alphonso Davies who is RIDICULOUSLY fast. That guy is a machine. And if you look at the intelligence praise point- This one is controversial. The numbers show that commentators do favor light skin players more here but it shouldn’t be an… Read more »

Jamie

Prove your statement to be true, moron.

Wasi

CG

The truth here being you are hardcore racist ?

Well we all know your love for Brits.

Redtruth

CG

Didn’t Wenger sign George Weah for his ‘physical attributes. ‘

luke

Ains is back in the good book get in. Well need him with hector looking like a shadow of his former self

englandsbest

I rate Auba (tho’ nowhere near as high as, say, Ian Wright) but – swallow hard – £250K a week! Yes, i know Ozil gets more but times have changed somewhat. How will Clubs cope with a massive drop in revenue? Perforce by economising – unless they go the way of Leeds U, or they have super-rich sugar daddy owners. What will they do, fire the staff like businesses outside the football bubble? Spend less on transfers? Cut wages? Yes, all of that – which makes £250K/week seem utterly crazy. The transfer fees of top players (the stars) will stay… Read more »

Thomas

Maitland-Niles is shit. One of many player who should be sold.

Champagne Charlie

“Ask yourself, why arent there any more black or minorty coaches in the EPL, let alone assistants, game refs, etc?“

Right, and I’m certain most sensible people would appreciate grounds for racism and inequality being present as a result.

But how do you tackle it? Aka where and how is the inequality taking place for you to take meaningful action?

Or….are you advocating the numbers get equalised for representation sake and forego competency as a deciding factor? Because that’s not a smart way to run any sub-sect of society.

Dissenter

Why s Arteta publicly piling on the technical director over these contracts.
Edu and Raul need to draw the line in the sand; Arteta is head coach and not the manager.
Tell him to buff out and face his job frontally, leave the executive business to executive.
Aubameyang will never some close to Henry, Arteta needs to stop talking cack.

TR7

Guns

‘Ask yourself, why arent there any more black or minorty coaches in the EPL, let alone assistants, game refs, etc?’

I am probably repeating myself here but the basis of your argument is ‘lack of equal representation’ but my argument is whether there is any documented evidence that there is ‘lack of equal opportunity’.

Dissenter

AMN needs to work on tying down a place in the team before running his mouth off.
Do your talking in the field.

Redtruth

The black managers who have broken through have generally been shit as was Uriah Rennie…

Dissenter

TR7 Surely you don’t think the talent of minority candidates is worthy of more than 5 BAME assistant managers in the league? There’s a glut of commentary from former players who are BAME about these issues. I bet their views won’t count since you’re seeking ‘documented evidence’ You see poor managers being recycled over and over again and so questions do need to be asked. It’s not like the current crop are that spectacular. There needs to be a better way to at least open the process. Start by making it mandatory to interview a diverse group like it’s done… Read more »

Sid

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Darren Moore
Viv Anderson
Gullit
Campbell
Rio
Paul Davis
Chris Ramsey
Heskey

Dissenter

Redtruth
Are you okay, Uriah Rennie was a referee, not a manager.

Chris

“Just read someone say Balogan might also be signing.”This is impossible. Valentin’s sources confirmed the other day that Balogan announced he wasn’t signing a new deal with us.

Muhahahahabaha

Redtruth

Tigana was a better manager than Wenger when he took over at Monaco, leading them to the Title and a Semi-Final in the Champions League.

Pedro

Dissenter, agree with your points.

I think people get derailed on the racism charge. It’s not racism, it’s bias.

I also think equality of opportunity is correct, clearly, that’s not happening at the moment.

At least the FA is starting to address it.

Chris

Juke

This is why we have Soares.

AMN still has a long way to go to prove himself. Nice interview he gave but he really needs to show he is focused on the pitch when he gets the opportunity.

TR7

Most European clubs have numerous black players in their team. These players have made their way through to stardom and fame by their talent fighting against any institutional racism that might exist. Similarly when we will have enough bright black managers they will overpower any resistance and shine like bright stars. Let us be honest -right now there are hardly any bright young black managers banging on the door. I mean if Chris Hutton was half as good as Pep or Jurgen, he would have been managing a top club in Europe for sure. Sol and Theirry got opportunities and… Read more »

Radio Raheem

Very good post Pedro.

Wasi

You’re talking rubbish. Please stop.

The research was a simple one: put in numbers the number times commentators used negative and positive stereotypical descriptive associated with skin colour.

If you’ve listened to football commentary long enough you’d have noticed this but now it’s in numerical fact.

Now we as a society, particularly in this time of collective reflection, can learn and, hopefully, develop a better system to replace the incumbent that is quite clearly lacking.

No need to muddle the process with some bullshit pseudo intelligence.

prvhc

Are some people on here really denying racism exists in football ?
Are you serious !? Have a word with yourself

prvhc

TR7
Summary of you arguments
1) There are disproportionately less coaching staff among minorities when compared to players
2) But there is nothing wrong with the system
3) Implying the problem is with the minority players themselves, without any proof.
4) But there is no bias in the perception of black players as not suitable to coaching, which is in direct conflict with the three points made above.

Take those arguments with you down the shitter

Wasi

Radio

I apologise if I came off racist but that’s just my 2 cents. Not saying I’m the know all in this matter.
And if you read correctly , you might have seen that I clearly acknowledge racism exists and ofc I am and everyone should be against it.

Stefan

Tr7

As Pedro keeps saying if the numbers are so incredibly low there must be an issue. It’s a pretty basic concept. You not getting your names doesn’t make any difference. But if you want them just get a list of top ex players, split between Bame and non bame and follow their career paths after football and tell us what you discover. Go away and do 100 or even better 1000.

And yes some journalists aren’t the brightest. That’s part of the problem. We need to be calling out their mistakes not covering for them.

Radio Raheem

There are some very incompetent whites in positions of authority. Why is the first reaction to more equal opportunities to non-whites this false cry of sacrifice of competence? It’s absolute nonsense.

Most organisations are bloody inefficient especially public ones. Moving up the greasy pole is solely based on competence. Cultural capital, your social circle and so on are more telling factors.

In fact I think the more competence becomes central to the consideration of who occupies a position the more equal opportunities will be for all.

englandsbest

Another dodgy issue for Clubs is lengthy contracts. (Think Ozil!). It used to be that players were desperate to get a contract. Bozman changed that, Clubs became desperate to keep their players.

it’s not difficult to foresee a return to the old days, to some extent. Why tie the club down to an ongoing expense when you don’t have to? Far better a year with an option. When jobs are scarce people work harder to keep them.

Champagne Charlie

“TR7, to be a black manager, exceptional is the benchmark. Not so with average white guys that fail over and over again.Black players make it through the ranks because they get the chance to play. Black coaches are barely getting in the door to learn the trade. Hard to make a case for exceptional talent if you can’t get a job.” TR7 is asking about data that supports these barriers to entry though, because what’s happening is representation is being used to assert basically anything the author states vs the actual truths of the matter. Why are there 5 representatives?… Read more »

Radio Raheem

*moving up the greasy pole is NOT solely based on competence.

Wasi

He got real mad tho.

Radio Raheem

Wasi

Yes I’ve gone mad, one knee on the floor, fisted black gloved left hand raised up while I type with my right hand 🙂 🙂

TR7

Pedro ‘Black players make it through the ranks because they get the chance to play. Black coaches are barely getting in the door to learn the trade. ‘ When we say black coaches are barely getting in the door to learn the trade, should we not try to find out how many former top black players have done their coaching batches and are interested in a career in football management ? I have given myself the task of finding this out to really see whether this argument of yours has any merit. Right now a very simplistic argument is being… Read more »

Dissenter

CC
Very well
Can we ask about data to explain why incompetent managers who aren’t BAME get reshuffled around like catholic priests with questionable histories.
Rather than asking for esoteric data to explain away difficult social constructs , why don’t we do more listening to the BAME people who have been speaking about these issues for years.
Why is possible for the likes of a former felon like Joey Barton to get in the business when people like Sol Campbell have to settle for positions where they manage without being paid.

Champagne Charlie

Raheem You can still ask questions of the data though. “analyzed 2,073 statements from commentators in 80 soccer matches from the 2019/20 season.” It was 20 games in Europe’s top 4 leagues, some of which included the same sides because of preferential viewing via TV (standard). The figures summarised were: “When commentators talk about intelligence: – 62.60% of praise was aimed at players with lighter skin tone – 63.33% of criticism was aimed at players with darker skin tone – When commentators are talking about power they are 6.59 times more likely to be talking about a player with darker… Read more »

Dissenter

By the way, I don’t think the situation is due to plain old racism. The game has come a long way.
I do think there are soft stereotypes that have endured the progress made in the last decades. It may be the same reason why we never see that many British Asians play football at the top-level. I refuse to believe that there aren’t enough Asians willing to participate in organized football at the youth levels to explain th near absence.

Dissenter

There’s a certain expectation of what a good manager should look like; at the moment it doesn’t include not being a certain demographic. Stereotypes have to be challenges, but first we have to accept that they exist. There used to be a time in American sports when black gridiron footballers were thought to be only good for positions where brawn and not brains mattered- they could be running backs, tackles and corner backs but never the quarter back. Those notions were dispelled over time, same as being head manager of NFL teams. This issue definitely warrants a respectful conversation, not… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Edu on Martinelli signing:

“It’s a quite similar situation to Bukayo, when you are talking about behaviour, attitude, mentality and family.”

Telling that behaviour is getting a pointed mention. Can hope that means the standards are taking hold and the club is starting to push back against anyone that falls below by showing positive reinforcement for adhering to the laws of Arteta FC. Love to see it.

Radio Raheem

Charlie

I’ll need to read the whole research methodology to see what bias or limitations it contains.

Yes 60% is enough it’s 10% more than 50% whoch would be the mean.

You can make that argument and I’ll probe deeper still. Are the two sports you cite also the more accessible for people of colour in a society offering unequal access?

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