The absolute peak of arrogance is conducting grim business in plain sight of the whole world.
Raul and Edu have moved into the ‘I don’t give a fuck’ territory and it is utterly miserable. We’ve let the foxes into the chicken coup and no one is concerned that there will be no eggs for breakfast tomorrow, next week, or in 5 years time.
We are a super-agent fee trough. That my friends is a terrible place to be. I have been warning you things aren’t right at Arsenal for a while, now you’re witnessing first hand what’s important to our leadership as they double down on average deals with new contracts with a cadre of select super-agents.
Now, to be clear, you can find good deals from super-agents. Their presence in the game is very grim, they suck money out of the sport and offer next to no value, but sometimes the cost of dealing with them is worth it. At a modern superclub, the process should always go in the order of data > extensive scouting > club engagement > super-agent. Not super-agent first. We are now the latter and that has lead us to one of the saddest David Ornstein tweets of 2020.
🚨 Hearing Arsenal have signed:
🔴 David Luiz to a 1-year contract
🔴 Cedric Soares to a 4-year contract 🔴 Pablo Mari to a 4-year contract
The defenders will be part of Mikel Arteta’s rebuilding job at #AFC@TheAthleticUK: https://t.co/qDXi0s3GLI— David Ornstein (@David_Ornstein) June 23, 2020
The problem is this: If the majority of your average deals go through the same people, serious questions arise about the truth of how you landed on the decisions. Why would a club as prestigious as Arsenal lean so heavily on 2 agents? Why do we keep signing up average players from these people? Why, even when our money is being spent badly and we’re 10th in the league, has the club not stopped making these awful deals? How has no one at Arsenal flagged that a technical director using his own agent for a bunch of shoddy deals looks very bad? Huss? Vinnai? Friar? Where are you? Who at Arsenal has the power to scrutinise these deals?
At the moment, it looks like Arsenal are beholden to two agents that are favoured by Raul: Kia and Arturo Canales.
They both have abysmal records with Arsenal.
Canales repped Unai Emery who was an absolute disaster. He repped him BEFORE he officially represented him. His recommendation was so powerful, Raul managed to jam the deal through even though Emery couldn’t speak a word of English to the CEO.
Kia has managed to push Edu, Luiz, and Soares our way. He’s working on Willian and maybe even Neto according to reports in Spain.
Yesterday, despite Arsenal pleading poverty, it was announced that those two agents have managed to land deals for Pablo Mari (4 years), Cedric Soares (4 years), and David Luiz (1 year).
That is contacts football at its peak.
I like Luiz, but his record this season has been atrocious outside a small patch of good games he had before the break.
David Luiz with a red card once every 160 PL games with Chelsea, once every 13 games with Arsenal. Gave a penalty away once every 53 games for Chelsea, once every 6.5 games for Arsenal.
— Duncan Alexander (@oilysailor) June 17, 2020
Pablo Mari, a player I really want to like, has managed a single full 90 minutes for Arsenal, outside that, he has 22 competitive games in Brazil to his name. He lands a 4-year deal with an injury that sees him out until November. Why not a 2 year deal with an option for an extra year? Just to play it safe? He’s a risky signing and let’s be honest, Raul hasn’t exactly been hitting 6s with these sort of deals.
Cedric Soares, a player that Southampton were willing to lose for free because they thought he’d go to a lower league club, has landed a 4 year deal with Arsenal without playing a single minute of football for us. He arrived injured. The player is 28 years old, we’re in the worst economic crisis football has faced in its existence, and Huss Fahmy is out here dishing out long-term deals to questionable talent AGAIN. The man who wanted to instil high-performance culture and smarts on deals is locking an average player into a longterm deal before we’ve seen a single minute of him play? Quite remarkable. Where are the standards?
You’d be hard-pressed to find many people in the world of football looking at these deals positively. The length of the contracts is generous given what we know, the quality of the players is barely subjective, and it is very, very unlikely the players move us onto a level we require. They are unimaginative deals and they are all tainted by cronyism.
Where does Arteta fit in all of this, after all, he’s in the media praising the deals?
Well, you have to put yourself in his shoes. It’s his first job out of coaching University, it’s a huge one, and his boss is in the front seat of the Raul bus of average.
What would you do? Slay your bosses publicly?
I can’t have it.
Martyrdom is for idiots. Very few are remembered or effective. Arteta needs Arsenal to work out for his career to move forward. More than that, he genuinely wants Arsenal to work for him because he loves the club. You cannot affect change if you get yourself marginalised or fired. Complaining in the media doesn’t help him this season and it’d make him look petulant. It’ll also depress an already fragile squad and further fuel uncertainty and stress. He doesn’t have enough reputational capital in the bank to be demanding so soon. Sadly, he has to play the game.
I feel for him. Worse, it now seems apparent that part of his appeal to Raul and Edu is that when you are a maker of Kings, they are in your service. Emery was going to Sociedad before Raul leant a hand. The exPSG coach wanted Zaha, but that didn’t work for Raul who wanted to deal with Lille, so Emery needed to stfu and deal with that. Arteta was a target of Newcastle and Everton before our interest. This is the best first job in Europe he had a chance with. He’s not squandering it, he’s too smart for that. Look how long it took Poch to pipe up about his unhappiness at the way Daniel Levy would run summers. No wonder Raul didn’t want Jose Mourinho at the club, he’d pipe up and get in the way of his special friends.
Not that I think Edu’s decision was a bad one. I am convinced Arteta will earn the right to speak up eventually. It really wouldn’t take much for him to earn more cache at the club that his overlords boast. We know that Josh and Stan love an exciting manager, so let’s hope that despite weak football leadership at the top, he can still achieve something… because my word, we need him to come good, the alternative is bleak.
It’s also up to the people who work at Arsenal to speak out against a Football Director that has taken over and rooted out any possible dissenters or wielders of oversight. Maybe Josh Kroenke should show a bit of interest in the people that have left Arsenal. Sven, Sir Chips, Lord Harris, the data guy to who left for Wenger to name but a few… do they have some insight into the inner workings at the club? Do they have opinions on why we’re landing on deals like this despite all our scouting and technical prowess? Highly likely. I just don’t understand why Arsenal’s owners don’t seem to want to inquire. It baffles me that you can have so little curiosity about what’s going on at something you have a vested interest in.
Still, don’t despair, things always work themselves out in the end. Arsenal is a huge club. We have a curious media. There are a lot of people that are angry about how we’re being run. I don’t think Raul will get away with this sort of performance forever, the question is how low do we have to go before someone at KSE pays attention and makes the necessary changes to push Arsenal back to the top?
A question for the ages, fingers crossed it’s answered soon. x
Saliba better be a monster CB
No pressure William… all eyes on you lol
Raheem
Far from it thanks, but you’ve outed yourself good and proper today so well done you.
I’ll look forward to your take on us paying 30 mil for Saliba, who hasn’t even kicked a ball for the club, and has been handed a 5 year deal. Sure that’ll be a wild one.
This blame kronke bs came out when people were deflecting blame off Wenger. Stan has played to his strengths really. He doesn’t know anything about football so he’s appointed footballing heads (and quite frankly given them enough time to succeed). Yes he hasn’t made 200m available but look at our transfer dealings, he’s made plenty of money available and it’s been used terribly by Wenger first and now by raul and co. He may not be the best owner but he hasn’t really come in the way of our football. The transfer policies are not his, nor is the philosophy… Read more »
Terraloon
He looked decent yesterday. He may not sustain that mind.
I only mentioned him as an example of the type of players we should be looking at. We should also be brave in playing them regardless of results, this and next season will, essentially, be for sorting out our foundation – bedding in Arteta/Arsenal’s football philosophy or vision.
Charlie
Saliba is 19 we’re speculating he’ll come good in the future?!
Keep going idiot.
I hope we get related.
“Saliba is 19 we’re speculating he’ll come good in the future?!“
And Cedric is a free transfer that fills a position we need but leaves finances on the table for the major areas……unlike spending 15 mil on a Brighton RB to play backup to Bellerin.
As you were Sherlock.
Doesn’t look like Hector is going to give away many trees any time soon…..
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/bellerin-3000-trees-for-every-arsenal-win-this-season/1onwwkpcpnk7k1i3b3ldqh1gjz#:~:text=Hector%20Bellerin%20has%20pledged%20to,Manchester%20City%20at%20Etihad%20Stadium.
Backup to a backup?
Bellerin should be sold or be a backup to a decent right back in my view. I don’t see us spending what is required for a decent rb so it’s time to develop one.
Moray “”””””Luiz was a shit signing and we doubled down.””””””” David Moyes ( Round was his No.2) at Manchester United bought curly haired and the liability that was Fellani and didn’t last the season. Arteta ( Round is his No.2) at Arsenal has ‘basically bought’ curly haired and the liability that is Luiz and he also wont last a full season. Maybe its Round – that is the real problem? Does he have a fetish for tall curly haired men? Because more one more minute of Luiz would be bad enough but another 12 months is totally unacceptable. Arteta does… Read more »
Gonsterous the problem with Stan is exactly that he hires in a few football guys and blindly trusts that they’re doing well If I was in his shoes I’d have an extra couple of football related consultants on hand who are paid to tell me what their take is. Not because they should wield any power to enact change but so that he can easily see whether or not there’s general consensus that we’re doing well and managing the club properly like Liverpool have, or whether or not it’s worth at least considering a different approach. These consultants should be… Read more »
Pedro if there is any messing about at the club, Arteta is part of it, I dont take this “he is young coach, his hands are tied and love arsenal” excuses
That means he only loves himself
He is obviously supporting the decision signing those clowns on public.
He is part of the mess
He is no messiah
What are mari wages? Soares and Luiz. What are their wages?
The wages always expose whether or not its a good deal. Follow the money.
“Bellerin should be sold or be a backup to a decent right back in my view“
Oh well if that’s your view then that’s the reality then naturally.
Meanwhile Bellerin is the clubs first choice RB and will continue to be next season so needs able cover in case the issues of this season re-emerge.
But you’d have us sink major resources into our RB spot so I’m quite content you’re not the brains of the operation.
G8
“”””””I dont take this “he is young coach, his hands are tied and love arsenal” excuses””””
Young coach Lampard made Luiz exiting the club his NO.1 priority at Chelsea.
Young coach Arteta is making Luiz his dressing room leader,
Lampard know Luiz better than anyone and knows how to play the ‘game!”
Arteta simply does not.
His credibility has been crushed.
Its over for him.
“But you’d have us sink major resources into our RB spot so I’m quite content you’re not the brains of the operation.”
Haha nice try!
Raheem
It’s not a nice try, it’s literally what you’re advocating.
If we establish the very obvious, that we have little money, for a second. To suggest you want Bellerin replaced or benched is only achievable by chucking money at RB.
Either money on Bellerin replacement which still leaves us with ONE right back at the club, who has never played here. Or money on a RB that benches Bellerin.
Neither of those makes any financial sense to prioritise at Arsenal currently. Unless you’re on a blog desperate to blow your load about the announcement of recent deals.
G8, not sure your well reasoned opinion holds much weight considering how bad your takes on the coach have been.
CG, lampard has given him a new deal 3 months before he left.
PedRo
“”””CG, lampard has given him a new deal 3 months before he left.””””
really, you are not telling porkies?
Charlie I said, and it’s there, we either buy a decent rb that Bellerin can be a backup to or we sell Bellerin and develop a decent rb. Option one is somewhat unrealistic as it is expensive. Option 2 isn’t as it would mean we reinvested the money we receive from selling Bellerin on a rb with potential to be decent. Simple. Bellerin was our only ‘proper’ rb at the club for a while but the position has been covered by a variety of players in his absence. Don’t forget we’ve now tied down your boy Soares to a 4… Read more »
Pedro Scathing stuff and well put. To quote you: ‘There are a lot of people that are angry about how we’re being run. I don’t think Raul will get away with this sort of performance forever, the question is how low do we have to go before someone at KSE pays attention and makes the necessary changes to push Arsenal back to the top?’ Well, I’ve been angry about the way arsenal fc has been run for comimg up to ten years. Regarding KSE ‘paying attention’, look at their track record with other franchises and it does not bode well.… Read more »
Alex, a hopeful end statement, no doubt
Raul is the ROTTEN ONE in Arsenal fruit basket. Kroenke is the only one who can throw this Stinker away. Kroenke has so far never looked beyond Financials. But Penny wise Pound foolish they say.
Arsenal free-fall started since Kroenke took controlling interest. Unless this Leach detaches , guess nothing will change. But it is coming…as the fans lose interest, after they lose their passion, will start noticing other teams. Kroenke Apple will slip off his slimy hands then.
Until then……
Raheem
Exactly as I stated.
You want to sell and replace Bellerin which would leave us with one RB. Or you’d want monies spent benching Bellerin, because you’re already heavily opposed to signing a bosman as cover.
So don’t get it twisted. As I say, very glad you’re at your computer and not at the Arsenal desk.
What might save Arteta is getting quality CAM and CM Mari cant be as bad as squillaci, Soares cant be worse than Ebou, luiz is like Kosc
The difference is what is infront of them
You heard it here 1st!
I made exactly the same comments last year and was slated for it. People were more concerned about denigrating Wenger that looking at what the current management team was doing. They promised Strategic planning, strong squad building, use of smart analytical tools to spot good players before everybody else, better management of players’ contract, financial control. Can anybody can say with a straight face that they see that in play at Arsenal? Many bought the koolaid when it was clear Gazidis and his minions who have now taken over should never have been near any position of responsibilities at a… Read more »
‘Maybe its Round – that is the real problem?Does he have a fetish for tall curly haired men?’
CG humour strikes again. 😂
Dissenter
Pedro surely knows Arteta pushed for Luiz and wanted Mari and Soares to sign permanently or else we wouldn’t have signed them.
He is living in denial.
Well according to Forbes ,Matthieu “ The Flamster” Flammini is worth a staggering$14 Billion! Richer than the Krankies.If that’s the case someone should be tapping up our old boy to come & rescue us from this nightmare we’ve been having for the last dozen years.$1.5 billion & I think the Yank will f** k off pronto….
Not the signings we all wanted to see but the window haven’t even opened yet so maybe hold the judgement before we see what the actual plan is. If it’s to rebuild our midfield and sort out our striker situation then I have no problems with spending the likely 5-6m these deals cost combined up front(excluding VAT and vulture fees of course) and 200 -ish k a week for all 3. If it’s not then we have major problems, obviously. Too early to tell where it’s going but I’d be amazed if we don’t address the midfield this summer. Maybe… Read more »
Wasi, if I was asked if I wanted those players or nothing, I‘d agree as well
Why don’t you start an online petition a la “We care do you” which states all of Rauls weaknesses/faults/corruptions and asking his dismissal, with the recipient being KSE? No doubt you’d get a ton of signatures and it’d drum up press.
With the club ownership unanswerable, and “We care do you” a successful way to reach them, this might be the best/only way to effect change at the club.
Raheem
‘I was willing to give him time but not after this.’
How pathetic must you be? A) to think this and B) post it on a public forum.
The guy’s had 13 games, the Covid bullshit, 4 major injuries and bolstered the squad with a free signing, a promising cb and an experienced back up cb.
It’s ok though the new contracts are the final straw that broke the camels back.
Twat.
Charlie
There you go being an idiot again.
I’m not opposed to signing a Bosman. Where did you get that from?
I’m opposed to giving Soares, a 28 year old who couldn’t get into a Southampton side, came to us injured or got injured soon afterwards that can’t dislodge a crap Bellerin, a 4 year deal.
There is better value in the market. It is your lazy kind of thinking that enables such inefficiencies.
As for the point on Bellerin I have been clear enough , you’re just looking for sparring partner. Or maybe that is me being generous.
Pedro my takes on Arteta like many others have been hopeful , I wanted him to succeed and make us at least competitive again.
But, he never coached a club before..
We were sold to Arteta mainly from what its been said about his ” great ideas, understanding of the game and revolutionary methods ”
What else could we rely on to make fair judgement of him if he had no experience before!?
I said he needed time but the signs so far havn’t been very promising
Edu said that Arteta wanted a left footed CB and that he came up with Pablo Mori.
I would find an extremely lucky coincidence if when put into the analytical system that you want a cheap, tall, agile left footed CB within a certain price range the best response was Pablo Mori.
Of course if you type left footed CB currently on the books of Kia and Canales, then you may get that answer, but then it is not really what Arteta has requested.
Goonies
Another moron. At least Charlie could string together a line or two.
Since you like reading my comments keeping reading what followed that one you might learn something.
Pedro I doubt if it was a all or nothing scenario Why are you ignoring Arteta’s own words on this ? He said the plan has always been to make Mari and Soares permanent. And he and Luiz have always spoken so glowingly of each other one could ask them to get a room. For a progressive coach with intelligence and a alleged great reputation as a coach I believe he had the option of saying no to this if he wasn’t onboard with it, work with some scouts he knows to get young hungry players. He wants this three… Read more »
It’s already been mentioned, but surely Ornstein is on a wind-up?
“Aston Villa defender Tyrone Mings and Chelsea playmaker Willian are on Mikel Arteta’s transfer shortlist at Arsenal, according to reports.”
We’ve gone from Upamecano and Kokcu to Mings and Willian.
Give it a month and we’ll be after a 37 year old Jagielka and begging Ozil to re-sign on a four year deal.
I like Willian. He is a good old pro that can help bolster a young side, if that is what we’re going for.
It’s ok Radio you tedious cunt, attention seeking at its finest earlier you should be proud.
That’s it I’m done with him after this. Haha ok mate. Find some other toy that keeps you interested for longer eh?
“I’m opposed to giving Soares, a 28 year old who couldn’t get into a Southampton side, came to us injured or got injured soon afterwards that can’t dislodge a crap Bellerin, a 4 year deal.“ He couldn’t? He made 16 starts this season for them in the PL before getting injured and subsequently moving to us mid-season. So kind of sounds like he played nearly every minute for them before his move. When couldn’t he dislodge Bellerin? When he was recovering from injury, or during the pandemic? Your use of the truth is fleeting and wholly designed to push a… Read more »
Goonies
Yawn
If we must buy from Kia why not Coutinho on a two year structured loan deal.
Won’t mind Willian either, knows the league well. Since we aren’t going project youth we might as well inject some quality in our project journeymen
“There is better value in the market. It is your lazy kind of thinking that enables such inefficiencies.“
Please name them.
PL experience, international pedigree, suitability to the team in talent and mentality.
Who are they?
None of these signings especially convincing but have to agree with CC on the complete hysteria… hope Mikel’s on board and got better judgement than most of us
Coutinho? Another light weight schemer that’s on the downside of his career and would saddle us with a huge salary for years. No thanks, we’ve already got one of those.
Charlie
You think giving Soares a 4 year deal is justified I think not.
I think we can can and must do better in that right back position, even under current constraints. I suggested how (even after taking into consideration this mistake with Soares). You, on the other hand, are happy or satisfied with things as they are. Shame.
Andy Coutinho is nothing like Ozil. He made two wrong moves but to me that doesn’t reduce his value.
All in all I think people are crying more than the bereaved. Arteta isn’t complaining, at least not publicly. Desperately trying to portray him as a victim is kind if weird.
He has a reputation as a great coach, now is this time to coach. Device patterns and formations that make the best of what you have.
“PL experience, international pedigree… ”
This is a cliché.
These qualities are exaggerated – see David Luiz.
So no I won’t name them, these qualities only serve to narrow potential options but do well to peddle your false narrative.
Pedro If you would agree too , then why all the fuss about Raul being a fraud and an idiot? Soares is a free signing to add depth to a position which we should have done 4 years ago, maybe then Bellerin wouldn’t have lost his pace. Sure there was a better free option in Meunier out there but would he have accepted a salary as low as Soares’s ( which is reportedly about 2 mil a year) Luiz as you say is a seasoned professional and great leader off the pitch. Sure he has been disastrous post lockdown but… Read more »
Pedro.
David Luiz signed the deal you are talking about at Chelsea on 10/5/2019 some 19 days before the 2019 Europa League final. At that time Sari was Chelsea’s manager.
Frank Lampard was appointed on the 4th July 2019. Thirty five days later Luiz was sold to Arsenal.
Suggests to me that CGs point about Lampard making it a priority to get rid of Luiz has merit and as can be seen by the timeline clearly it wasn’t Lampard who gave or sanctioned the contract extension
Raheem You’re outspokenly against signing Cedric, and your recourse is to plunge more resources into RB. I’ve said the deal is fine and let’s us prioritise other areas that are far more important or impactful. He, and Mari, are getting over the top criticism because their deals were announced and no other reason. Both have yet to show what they’re about, and at 15 mil combined (only half of which paid) you’d be a fool for considering either of them a fulcrum of the side more than a replenishment of staff under a new manager in his likeness. I’m more… Read more »
many other sites saying Willian has already signed an extension at Chelsea. Why is this even an issue to discuss. Why would we want him anyway. Id rather have rakitic from Barca. pair him with partey and we have our starting CM for at least 2 years. Sell, dump or anyway dispose of Xhaka and let Guendooozy and the other kids watch and learn
Auba gone. Im ok with that too. Laca gone no problem. Replace them both with Danny Ings and let Martinelli step up
“These qualities are exaggerated – see David Luiz. So no I won’t name them, these qualities only serve to narrow potential options but do well to peddle your false narrative.“ They’re not exaggerated, there’s a clear reason why clubs value those characteristics. Don’t use Luiz as a false flag in your deconstruction of a general principle. There’s countless examples of having PL experience evening a benefit, and being international quality being a good barometer. Remove both and still you won’t provide names that are comparable in value to Cedric. You’d have been bold enough to state half a dozen if… Read more »
Wasi
I don’t disagree with most of what you post apart from last para.
I think that we have recruited enough of Chelsea’s cast offs in recent years and
adding Willian yet another 30+ player to our squad is not a good idea especially as he will be demanding a huge wage.
Arsenal need to bring in players who are going to be good enough for our starting X1, but also to be playing for us at least 5 years.
“Remove both and still you won’t provide names that are comparable in value to Cedric. You’d have been bold enough to state half a dozen if they were so plentiful.”
This is childish don’t you think?
Even you could Google that up.
I’m against signing Soares on a 4 year deal that’s all.
I was surprised to learn recently that McDonalds profits are mostly derived from real estate and not the food. They are happy to let franchisees have control of restaurants. I think Kroenke operates the same way. He knows he’ll make a return on selling the N5 real estate. He doesn’t give a shit how Raul and co operate on a day to day business as long as they don’t ask Stan for money. I’m sorry but it’s no coincidence that Arsenal has been in decline since Stan took ownership.
Wasi Willian has already been offered a two year deal at Chelsea which he has turned down because he wants a three year deal. We actually don’t know the details of Soares transfer other than the fact that it’s on a four year deal Sportrac suggest he was on £65k at Southampton . My guess is that with signing on fee, loyalty bonus etc it will work out way more than the £40k a week you suggest. As for Mari that is an odd one on many levels. Again a four year deal is one hella a commitment. As for… Read more »
” Sell, dump or anyway dispose of Xhaka”
Now you’re talking!
Sorry Pedro but Arteta seems a simple yes man to Raul and friends considering these deals. No competent coach is sanctioning the re-signing of Luiz after such a disastrous season. And further, pushing for signing a broken Cedric Soares is pitiful stuff. Mari I can slightly forgive but then why pay a loan fee to Flamngeo? We should’v jut signed him for a lesser total fee in Jan. We are fucked for the forseeable future in the game, as the recruitment and management team is filled with delusion, arrogance and grifters. Our club is being desecrated before our very eyes.… Read more »
Wasi
“”””Judging Mari right now isn’t fair. “””””
Life ain’t fair,…..
……he is garbage,
This one is a plodder & slow on the turn.
That’s’ no place for a center defender in the prem these days,
But then again – looking at or recent business, its not a place where we want to be for too much longer.
If Mary is here in 4 years time- we will playing Hartlepool United,
David luiz has been nothing, but a complete disaster, let’s be honest
I was delighted when we signed him after the koscilney fiasco, thought he would give us a bit of experience, flare and wining mentality, but as it turned out he has been a disaster..
To extend his contract is criminal!
“As for Mari that is an odd one on many levels.”
Unless Arteta of course said I know this player from City, he’s exactly want I want and if you don’t sign him I’ll quit.
Can you imagine Pedro’s outcries of anguish if Arteta quit because Sanllehi wouldn’t spend a paltry £15 odd million (plus VAT) on the only player he’s ever wanted?
We’re paying 2.5m up front for Mari, the rest has already been paid for the loan or will be paid in up to 8 installments if he ever reaches 80 games for us. Not a big deal nd allows us hopefully to get some cash in for Sok and Mustafi and get 150k off the wage bill. We’ll have to see what kind of wages Luiz is on and if he took a cut from his 120k a week or not. Doubt we paid much in signing on fee this time since it was less than 800k the first time.… Read more »
You lot fold faster than Superman on laundry day. Now Willian is okay? A good old pro. Good with the kids. So was Saville and that doesn’t make it right.
We’re a shambles.
Freddie
“Doubt we paid much in signing on fee this time since it was less than 800k the first time.”
You’ve already been told that the agent fee was £800 million not £800k.
Raheem
Childish? You pointed out there’s much better value so as such have the burden of explaining where.
Childish to me is stating a player like Cedric couldn’t get in the Saints team to make out he’s some sort of duffer upon signing for us. When in fact he played near every minute for them prior to his injury and move.
Marc
Don’t judge me for a typo! I forgot to add the VAT too:(
Freddie
That’s some fucking typo mate!
No doubt Sanllehi will be using that line to the Korenke’s as well.
It’s about time, overdue in fact, for fans and supporters to campaign to oust Raul and Edu IF they really abuse the use of matey agents as suspected!! Fans and supporters identify with the club and it’s an insult to us all if AFC is taken for a ride or to the cleaner. No fucking way. More so, a disgrace for the fucking K family allowing it to happen under their watch. While we couldn’t practically oust ‘em, we can curse ‘em till the cows come home. Meantime, if as reported, it’s like winning lottery for journeymen like Mari and… Read more »
Willian is a quality player, but I’d be hesitant over his age and wages. Though it’s heavily dependent on other business we do and how the market is looking as a whole.
Bin Mkhi for cash and I can understand it even if I’d prefer a younger profile. Perhaps the argument for Willian is with Nelson, Saka, and a misfiring Pepe we could do with someone reliable.
As I say, very dependent on other business to me how that deal would be deemed.
CC,
Willian used to be reliable and good, but lately that has not been the case. He is still decent but for the salary he commands I expect a player to be deliver more than regular 6 out of 10 performances.
https://www.arsenal.com/news/team-news-leno-xhaka-sokratis-and-more
Gabriel Martinelli
Left knee. Sustained cartilage injury during training on Sunday.
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Fuckin’ great…….
Look at how quickly we wrap up deals for average players like Luiz, Cedric and Mari.
Meanwhile, we are pissing in the wind with regards to Saka’s contract where there is 11 months left to go.
Once again, this can’t be stated enough, the club is run by complete and absolute first grade morons.
Useroz Tierney agent – Allan Preston Pepe agent – Samir Khiat Martinelli agent – Marcos Casseb Saliba agent – Djibril Niang Ceballos agent – Bahía Internacional (all I could find) Luiz agent – Kia Joorabchian Mari agent – Kia Joorabchian Soares agent – Kia Joorabchian So 3 out of 8 transfers saw Kia Joorabchian being the agent of the player and 1 of those is clearly an Arteta signing. Until I see the official FA published numbers on amounts paid to agents this will continue to look like a major agenda. I still can’t get an answer out of Pedro… Read more »
Danny
“”””””””Gabriel Martinelli
Left knee. Sustained cartilage injury during training on Sunday.”””””””””
meanwhile, I read:
Tierney describes the intensity of Arsenal’s training sessions as “incredible” over the last few weeks and while recent results have been difficult.
oops!
And I thought these type of injuries only happened under our Wenger!
I would prefer the club sign youngsters where they can be sold with a profit. Signing Soares and Mari are losing business.
Arsenal=absolute joke business , they should just employ Sepp blatter now and be done with it
Pedro,
Where is Arteta in all this? Nowhere, he has no experience, no balls, all he can do is talk shit.
Emirates Fair enough . But I do mentioned that I would only take Willian on a year with a salary less than 120k a week. We dont necessarily need him. But he can provide consistent performances in the Prem while the likes of Gabi , Saka and Reiss are slowly introduced to the rigours of first team football. I wouldn’t want to burn them like Wilshere . All Im saying is that I wouldn’t be against signing Willian if we can get him on our terms. If we dont get him., No issue. We might have 1 or 2 slightly… Read more »
Val
Disagree, he’s still got a lot of quality and always delivers when I’ve seen him. But reading both him and Pedro are extending their deals so not sure where the noise about us is coming from with that in mind.
I guess you have put your name behind another lemon, just like you waxed lyrical about Gazidis when everyone and his dog told you he was gash.
CC
“But reading both him and Pedro are extending their deals so not sure where the noise about us is coming from with that in mind.”
Were you joking there?
Marc, only you could genuinely not see an issue with Edu using his own agent to spend £24m on a player on a one year deal.
‘I MUST SEE EVIDENCE FROM THE FA BEFORE I JUDGE’
Your love of the dark arts and unwillingness to acknowledge clear patterns of odd behaviour lead me to believe you’re a salesman or something.
‘Fair enough . But I do mentioned that I would only take Willian on a year with a salary less than 120k a week. ‘
Sorry for the n number of typos up here
But I do mention that I would only take Willian on a 2 year deal with wages less than 120k a week.*
Pedro
The 24 mil story has not been backed up.
And whats wrong with wanting to see actual numbers instead of some made up rumour.
Your love for using dark arts ( like twisting words) and are a little bit concerning id say.
So are we decided that Arteta will not be behind any of the transfers in or out of Arsenal while he is at the club?
Pedro
Why are you so afraid of the real numbers? When they come out I’m sure we’ll all have a view on them. The last set showed us not doing anything unusual or untoward with agents, if the new numbers show a pro rata ratio to spending then I’ve got no problem and you’ve been full of shit. If they show we’ve chucked tens of millions at agents I’m pretty sure you’ll get your wish and Sanllehi will be history.
Jim
No the form on here will carry on as has recently been the case. Good signings were Mislintat and will now be Arteta whilst bad ones will still be down to Sanllehi.
Wasi
He’s in marketing, they never come face to face with the people that they are projecting lies to. Salesman do because they want repeat business so if they are shown to be lying they lose the business, Marketing just either blame the sales people or have a “re-brand”.
@Marc –
One of the things I have taken away from this blog over the years is that none of us actually know what is going on inside the club on a day-to-day basis. There are people that understand this and they offer opinions. Then there are people that don’t and present their opinions as fact.
I like Tyrone mings but I don’t see the fit. We just signed two CBs and have Saliba coming in. Are we selling 4 CBs? We probably need to anyway but I don’t see how we can be linked to any defenders anymore that would be of any substance.
Need at least three quality midfielders and depending on who is sold up front maybe a front line player. Otherwise our business is done most likely.
Jim
I agree 100% with the exception that I know Pedro slept with Doris the Tea Lady, she was 83 at the time.
For me it has always been axiomatic that Arsenal will not return to the elite while Stan is around. Worse than that, the club’s viability, which began to decline when he arrived, at first gradually, is now falling at breakneck. speed. Raul and his cronies are hyenas picking over the bones of a dying thoroughbred. The prospect of Josh and Stan riding to the rescue is a forlorn hope. To allow Arsenal to descend to this desperate state is either utter stupidity on their part, or else an act of vengeance against the arrogant toffs who thought Stan wasn’t the… Read more »