Matteo finance banter

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Matteo Guendouzi has been dominating the news cycle because he went after Maupay after the game risking a suspension, then the story carried on when it turned out he was basically calling Brighton players peasants.

That is Matteo I’m afraid. He’s a bit of wally. However, I can’t knock it. If you’ve played football at even the worst level, you know that it is standard to tell a forward you slipped their mum one at half time. It’s just what happens. Being precious about sledging is very Arsenal. Broader issue is this unpleasantness isn’t just on the pitch.

Still, the FA don’t care about the words and they’re fine with the shove after the game. So he lives to fight another game.

Next up is Southampton. He’ll start because we have basically no other options with Torreira and Xhaka out injured. It’ll no doubt be another slog of a game unless there’s a magic 17-year old that can dominate a Premier League midfield that we’ve had hidden away.

Depressing.

Not as depressing as some of the transfer news. We’re signing Pablo Mari, who, look, I kind of like. Right profile, has won things, and he’s the perfect age. Problem with Arsenal is it’s hard to trust the ‘why’ of the decision making.

Cedric Soares looks like he might be signed to a perm deal. Kia.

We’re being linked to Willian again, Kia.

We’re also being linked with Neto, the Barca reserve keeper who is repped by, Kia.

You have to laugh, you really do. What is the point of Edu if his best idea is always to send a Whatsapp to Kia? Pathetic. Hopefully, Josh is starting to pay attention to the two constants in our lives at the moment, shit football and Kia. He must LOVE that we’re being turned into a fee machine.

There’s quite a bit of average talk going on elsewhere. Barca are hedging their bets on Lautaro by talking to Arsenal about Auba this summer. Feels like a bit of a crap rumour to me. Barca tried to loan him in January, which I guess is standard practice when it comes to their piss-taking negotiation tactics. They just sold Arthur to Juve for £72m, so let’s see where that cash heads.

We’re also being linked with a swap deal for Mikhi and Kluivert. Again, the young Dutchman was exciting a few years ago, but a bit of a worry that they are willing to get rid of a player so young for one so average.

Anyway, a lot of blandness online today, let’s hope for something spicier tomorrow. Have a good one! x

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Upstate Gooner

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DM

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Upstate Gooner

I knew there’s gonna be someone lurking… welcome back, DM 🙂 .

Logie Bear

7th (favourite number) has to be an omen for a good result ?

Danny S

I would rather Guendouzi be a dirty warrior on the pitch than just be a snarky little pushing bitch off of it.

DM

Thanks Upstate!

Receding Hairline

” Broader issue is this unpleasantness isn’t just on the pitch.”

After Raul and Kia you really have something against Guendouzi don’t you Pedro

Tom

Guen is a bit of a punk but I’ve seen worse. He’s like that adolescent elephant bull cast out of the herd by matriarch , who’s now throwing his weight around molesting rhinos and hippos. He needs a proper bull to put him in his place and show him what’s what. Ok, not a great analogy but you get my point. Keown , Adams , or Veira would’ve taken Maupay out with a slide tackle instead of talking smack about wages. Maybe Arsenal brass are trying to copy Wolves on transfers. Who needs a scouting network when you can build… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Pedro but he did have great performances on the pitch when he first arrived here, Many games where he was very influential, played with more belief.

Something happened with him, he was Arsenalized if you ask me. It’s for the sake of these young ones we should desperately rid ourselves of certain characters. I mean watching the highest paid player at the club takes sick leaves anytime he doesn’t feel up to it cannot be good for the mental education of young players, bad attitude is a cancer

Habesha Gooner

If Guendouzi had serious senior midfield partners, I really think he can be great. I can see a lot of talent in him. I am sure three young players can have great careers. And Him along side Saka and Martinelli are those players. A 21 year old shouldn’t be expected to be the finished article. Pedro, You have a dislike for Guendouzi admit it. What I like about him is he plays on edge and he is naughty. He is arrogant and Confident. That will make home a good player.

Habesha Gooner

* will make him

Sid

Guend is the carrot among wet lettuce

Sid

Erm rodman was the rebound and defence king in that team

Guns of SF

Rodman was hired to serve a solitary role.

Dude was amazing. Became a Laker too… my former hometown team

Guen has the fight but not the talent to back it up. I would sell him, and the entire CM’s we have including Torr

Start from scratch again… this area is too pathetic right now.

Receding Hairline

“I wonder if he looked good in a chaotic system, and some that flair has been tamed in something that’s a lot more restrictive? ” Couldn’t help but smile a little there Pedro There was nothing chaotic about the systems i which Matteo had his good games last season … He started our 2-0 defeat of Chelsea last season, in that game every player knew his role, it was one of our most controlled games of the season, we were disciplined and bid our time. Same can be said of our 1-1 reverse draw with Spurs last season, a game… Read more »

MidwestGun

Damn Peds.. all I can think of every time you say Kia is a crappy South Korean car.

Which I guess is fitting since you generally pay too much for what you think is a good deal and then it falls apart in a couple years and you have to buy another one in a Kia crappy car situation. Sounds about like Arsenal players.

Wasi

Pedro
Theres a massive player in Guendo. And hopefully Arteta can bring him out with his coaching.
He should be developed in the Fabinho/ Fernandinho model imo.
Tall , good engine , good dribbling , good passing and first touch and a fierce attitude which if develop correctly can be a real asset for the club long term.

His positioning which was his biggest flaw has improved a lot.
Needs to get better at heading , releasing the ball fast and control his temper and we’ll have a real player on our hands.

Receding Hairline

Talks of William Carvalho to Leicester

Might mean someone is fixing to drop big money on Ndidi who has been impressive for them

One to keep an eye on.

Samesong

How can a player like Guen be good among these serial losers.

Guen started well against City. Looked quite strong. Until our structure went.

Prince laffyadex

If arteta fails to work on guend, he will b worst than u ppl think. To me guend force ball most of the times and he doesn’t ave accuracy , he had lost d courage I saw in him last season ,
He has to work on his stength and also make d right decision at d right time , not keeping d ball on his feet when is not necessary

Thorough

One year left on contract, Arsenal were supposedly all over Meunier.
Meunier available on free transfer, Arsenal nowhere to be found.
These are the kind of deals we shouldn’t be missing.
Watford even signed that Le Havre Kante ahead of us though Marseille are trying to hijack the deal.
If we’re not flush with cash, we should be getting on these kind of cases a lot before anybody.

The Godfather

Karma catches up with that scumbag Maupay… misses PK vs Leicester

Goonies

That’s it fuck off Maupey you little prick

Dissenter

Does anyone know if the club has made a statement about Leno’s injury

Wasi

Even after what Maupay did , Idk why I hope Brighton stay up. GP plays good football. Would love to see what he could do with 2 more years and more players which suit his style.

Champagne Charlie

If anyone uses Ornstein for their facts about previous transfers or managers then do be consistent and take note of the following from his podcast: Ornstein: I know how highly thought of Mikel Arteta is by other clubs, and if it doesn’t go right at Arsenal, I think it will go right for him in his career because people I trust and who have seen him work and know him, talk about what a special coach he is and that he’s going to have, in their view, a very special coaching career. I spoke to Josh Kroenke and Edu [for… Read more »

Wasi

Dissenenter

According to Benge , his injury is not as bad as first feared. ( not the best of sources tho)

Soares will reportedly be signed permanently by the club.

CG

Wasi

“”””””Theres a massive player in Guendo.”””””

There aint.

Offers absolutely nothing. Total footballing ignorance and naivety if you seriously think he does.

He would be outplayed and out muscled by members of our ladies team.
He will be out on loan somewhere soon- because no club out there will buy him.

I can also guarantee 95% of the other Arsenal players can not abide him too.

So so wrong Wasi.

alexanderhenry

Pedro I can’t remember the last time you wrote anything that could be classified as actual good news for arsenal. This is worrying. Seeing as we’re in the long awaited post wenger ,sunny uplands and that you are able to apply a forensic knife to all things arsenal, it’s telling that the arsenal rumour mill is consistently disappointing. It’s all been a litany of averageness. The only positive is your somewhat cultish conviction that Arteta will come good in spite of the fact that arsenal fc is run by people who show as much passion and commitment to the club… Read more »

Wasi

Brighton’s 19 yo RB looks a real prospect. He’s already completed 2 or 3 good dribbles today in the first 30 mins.

Batistuta

All sound bites till we see exactly what his style of play is, as for now Arteta is yet to establish exactly what he’s trying to do or at least a part of it,our play feels all too familiar.

Receeding

I’m guessing that’s Ndidi off too, maybe United or even Chelsea in for him. Won’t be shocked to see him at one of the big boys which sadly we aren’t these days

CG

CG

“””””Total footballing ignorance and naivety if you seriously think he does.””””””

having said , you are not alone.

he fooled me at first.

I thought he could play. He cant.

Wasi

CG

We’ll see in due time.

You dont rate Guendouzi and hail AMN who has had 1 good game in midfield.

You britsh bias is really concerning.

So so wrong.

Wasi

Ndidi is not as good as some make him be.
Excellent without the ball but very limited on it.

Valentin

Martinelli is injured and could be out for the remainder of the season. It never rains at Arsenal, it pours.

jwl

I reckon Kia is using the media to get publicity for his players and Arsenal execs are not planning to buy all his clients.

Freddie Ljungberg

Really hope it’s true that Leno’s injury isn’t as bad as the fear mongering has made it out to be.

Been one of our best players and would be a blow to miss him next season. Would also waste part of our budget if we had to go out and get a replacement for him.
Hoping for a speedy recovery.

The Backpass

So Martinelli is injured.

Freddie Ljungberg

“Martinelli is injured and could be out for the remainder of the season. It never rains at Arsenal, it pours.”

Fuck. Just what we need now.

Not that he got much playing time anyway but still. Hope he recovers quickly too.

Wasi

Maybe our world cup winning S&C coach is not as good as we thought he was.
Players are dropping like flies.

Wasi

Positive news on Leno.
Tests showed it was just a strain and he will back in 4-6 weeks.

Gabi suffered cartilage injury.

Xhaka is back in full training. Love or hate the player his natural fitness is top notch.

Seriously Questions need to be asked about the number of injuries we suffer during a season.

CG

The G

“””Martinelli is injured and could be out for the remainder of the season. It never rains at Arsenal, it pours.””””

CG suggested it.

Has he naively popped some naughty pills during lock down to bulk up.( to emulate Ronaldo?)

Get him drinking lots of water. Flush it out!

Arsenal don’t need one manager.
They need 7.
One for each day of the week.

Brutal baptism of fire for MA.

Sid

It obvious the players are struggling with fitness

The Godfather

Well the injury makes some sense and explains the Martinelli absence.
Hope the rumors of Leno just having a sprain are true as well.
Oh well let’s just get to the end of the season and regroup.
What a horrible campaign this has been!

Batistuta

Wasi

Not sure you’ve watched a lot of Ndidi. His primary role is DM and the stats prove he’s the best in the league at what he does, better than Kante this season. He doesn’t need to be silk on the ball, he has other team mates to do that for him but he’s damn good at his job.

Batistuta

It’s that Arsenal thing and wanting everyone to be good on the ball and have every team we play against stroll past our midfield every game because the place is filled with ball carriers and no tacklers

Wasi

Batistuta

I have watched enough of Ndidi before coming to that conclusion. If he goes to a top top club , its very likely that he will have to be comfortable on the ball as well as being excellent defensively. See Fabinho , Rodri , Casemiro , Kimmich , etc.
He is definitely a monster off tbe ball but on the ball he is average.

Wasi

What im saying is the media and pundits have overhyped him. It happens when an underdog team defies expectations.
Ex Maguire was sold for 80+ mil even though in all honey he is not a Top top CB

Wasi

in all honesty*

Chris

Great news about Leno if true.

Not so good about Martinelli but it may explain his absence from the team since the restart.

I don’t think Guendouzi has the stature to be trash talking to Brighton players. We want players with good attitudes and that just comes across as being a bit of a prick.

englandsbest

Desperate stuff, all this talk of transfers. Last summer’s flurry used up this summers money. I plotted a graph of the Club’s viability since Stan took over. I won’t define viability (it’s a compound of many factors) but I will tell how the graph looked: a grad decline initially that steepened year on year. Transpose the graph forward a year or two, and the fall becomes near-vertical. The end is nigh, RIP. Not so, we have Mikel. My view has not changed: the key is to reduce costs. And even more so with revenue falling. I hope Mikel puts ALL… Read more »

azed

Guendouzi was the Arsenal-player who had the most urgency on the ball and he was the one who always tried to find a forward option. He was marked for prolonged periods of the game, but whenever he got the ball he tried to make things happen.

From the link shared by Wasi

Batistuta

Wasi Ndidi is not poor on the ball, he has a good pass on him and has a good shot on him too. He doesn’t have to be exceptionally good on the ball as long he does his primary job brilliantly. Funny that you mention Casmeiro who isn’t exactly known for his exceptional on the ball ability. He is a DM and a world class one at that, the media haven’t even hyped him up one bit and as for your Maguire example, everyone who had a good eye could see he would always struggle against pacy strikers and wasn’t… Read more »

Mr Serge

Guen is a headless chicken not good enough for an arsenal team but better than we have at the moment we need a midfield overhaul like Partey and a proper string playaker alongside we need to sell the dross and take advantage of the lower teams financial issues
Now is the time for kronke to commit

TR7

David Luiz has apparently signed a new contract.

Batistuta

Bad idea that Luiz deal, very bad one.

The Godfather

“Guendouzi was the Arsenal-player who had the most urgency on the ball and he was the one who always tried to find a forward option. He was marked for prolonged periods of the game, but whenever he got the ball he tried to make things happen.”

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Champagne Charlie

N’didi isn’t world class. That sort of talk needs nipping in the bud, world class is far too crowded a space of the likes of him occupy it.

TR7

Arteta on Pablo Mari: “We have trying to get the deal done, because we are happy with what Pablo can bring to us. I think the club will announce that as soon as possible when the deal is sorted, there were some legal issues to get sorted, but our intention clearly is to keep him”

Receding Hairline

Ndidi is an excellent player

Charles thanks for the Ornstein soundbite although I don’t know what his reliability on transfers has to do with telling the future.

Anything said about Arteta at the moment is talk, we all know he talks a good game so not easy to get people impressed. Its walking the talk that matters. We are all in wait and see mode hoping he comes good, Ornstein included …

Samesong

People are divided on Guendouzi, granted.

But he needs good players around him. Don’t expect him to do it on his own.

So what if he has an attitude? I bet mos of you guys in your teenage years thought you knew everything.

Marc

” then the story carried on when it turned out he was basically calling Brighton players peasants.”

My God that’s horrific – I’m just glad Brighton took the high road by not spending the 90 kicking lumps out of us and putting a player out for 9 months.

Marc

” We’re signing Pablo Mari, who, look, I kind of like. Right profile, has won things, and he’s the perfect age. Problem with Arsenal is it’s hard to trust the ‘why’ of the decision making.”

Today it’s the “why” of the decision making – if he works out it’ll be Arteta demanded him, if he doesn’t it’ll be Sanllehi knows his agent.

Habesha Gooner

I don’t mind Luiz on a one year deal. He is a massive help against lowly teams and a Backup. But we are going to have to put up with an occasional fuckup from him. It also means we are gearing up to fix our midfield this summer. Pablo Mari is also staying. So we aren’t signing any new CB. Mari, Saliba, Luiz, Chambers and Holding will be Our CBs. Soares is also staying which I think is a good decision. All sales from Mustafi, Sokratis, Elneny, Miki and Maybe Aubameyang and Niles would be used to fix our midfield… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Luis, Mari, Soares…not really the way I thought we would go but let’s see how it unfolds

Marc

“We’re also being linked with Neto, the Barca reserve keeper who is repped by, Kia.”

We were being linked with Joe Hart yesterday – who’s his agent?

Marc

“We’re also being linked with a swap deal for Mikhi and Kluivert. Again, the young Dutchman was exciting a few years ago, but a bit of a worry that they are willing to get rid of a player so young for one so average.”

Well if Auba is off and Saka is a number 10 we’ll need a LW!

Marc

“We’re being linked to Willian again, Kia.”

I remember us being linked to Zidane back in the day – unfortunately that one didn’t come off.

If I had a pound for every player we were linked to that didn’t come off I’d be worth millions.

Marc

“That is Matteo I’m afraid. He’s a bit of wally. ”

On the last post he was a “wrong un”

So glad we had Mislintat here to sign:

Torreira
Guendozi
Sok
Lich
Mavropanos

Diamond Eye’s might need an optician.w

CG

Bat

“”””Bad idea that Luiz deal, very bad one.””””

“”””ruthless !””””he said, on day 1.
“”””outsmarting the market “”””” they said in their only interview.

In soccer parlance Mikel Arteta is a dead man walking.

He wont survive this.
And he does not deserve too.

Flabbergasted! And the Zombie Club does indeed strike again.

Globalgunner

Kluivert may not be great but if that’s the only way we can get Mikhi off the payroll, then so be it. We are not in an advantageous position in this besides who knows if Saka is going to sign on. We cant pay him 100kpw. No way. He has promise but he is not the next Messi. We have to stop the financial rot somewhere

Guns of SF

we signed all of them
Nice… way to go Arsenal.

Also Gaby hurt… fuck lets just end this season now

Marc

SF

Hurt how? How bad?

Spanishdave

Arteta
All wind and wee wee.
When we are firmly rooted in the bottom half of the league, with a half empty stadium maybe the club will wake up, but not holding my breath.

Receding Hairline

Marc out for the season apparently. I hasten to add this injury happened in training yesterday according to report’s. So No, that is not why he didn’t feature in the last two games

Guns of SF

some reports coming out he hurt it Monday in training- ligament

Marc

dave

How are your keeping?

Don’t worry the club will notice when a huge number of ST holder’s don’t renew. They might even notice when Arteta only manages to win 2 of the 11 matches after lockdown.

Don’t think a couple of draws will save him.

Freddie Ljungberg

Guess we’re not fixing our defence this summer then, bollocks.

Hope they at least give the midfield a proper shake up and sort out our striker situation then.

I can understand that they don’t want to spread themselves too thin during the window but then they have to actually do proper, long term, top signings in a couple positions to move the needle forwards.
I’d be more than happy with a repeat of last summers business.

Guns of SF

Based on these signings its not looking good.
Luiz… give me a fucking break.

Who the fuck is making decisions at Arsenal now???

He is a disaster- my only hope is that it signals we selling Sok or Mustafi and getting some money.

I hope he took a pay cut…. We are being fleeced here by someone. Inside or outside the club or both!!!!!

Guns of SF

I hope to fuck that we sell xhaka then, and also Torr and Guen –
I can live with Dani but we have to upgrade the mid
CAM CM CM

Sid

Matteo only turned 21, how many players his age are starters for their teams in the EPL.
As he matures physically he wil be harder to brush off the ball
Even Alex songs breakout year he was 21(though likely an age cheat) and he was playing with better players.

Marc

“my only hope is that it signals we selling Sok or Mustafi and getting some money.”

Oh yeah we’ve got about £15 million coming in for the pair of them.

Guns of SF

well Reiss Nelson will get more minutes –
Saka to stay put on the left then….
Ozil to re appear in the middle.

Sid

Ceb is crap, physically inadequate for box to box, technically inferior for #10

GunnerDNA

What a terrible decision to even entertain the signing of Luiz, Soares and Mari. They shouldn’t even be offered short term deals

Batistuta

You’d not get or be able to name 5 better defensive midfielders in the world than Wilfred Ndidi and the stats are there to back it up, that you don’t agree doesn’t mean anything has to be “nipped in the bud”. The stats prove he’s one of the best in the world in his position

Sid

Sok is 3m max, mustafinovs 7m max

Marc

“I hope to fuck that we sell xhaka”

Arteta blew that one – what we’ll do now if closer to giving him away. If we manage £13 million we’ll be lucky.

Batistuta

Pablo Mari
Cedric Soares
David Luis

That’s not exactly an encouraging list of players that shows that everyone in the club have any idea what exactly they’re doing

Globalgunner

Guendouzi only starts for us because we are so poor in his position. He wouldn’t get a game in 15 out of 20 PL teams

Leftside

Why is Song likely an age cheat?

Leftside

I think Xhaka will be here next season unless he pushes for a move himself

Champagne Charlie

Bati The stats line can be used to highlight numerous players as best in class, it doesn’t make them world class and to tip that cap to numerous dilutes it’s meaning. N’didi isn’t world class because he’s been excellent for Leicester and has good stats. Scott Parker had a couple of season where he was best tackler etc in the league, he was never close to world class. Receding It’s nothing to do with translating transfers to managerial judgement. It’s to do with whether you think his sources accurate and reliable. If you do then arguing against Arteta’s rep in… Read more »

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