Culture club

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Well good morning, apologies it’s been low key week. I’ve been in Texas, land of the mask-free. It’s wonderful to be living in actual normality. I sat in a restaurant, had a frozen marg at a bar, sneezed at someone and it was all just very cool.

But onto more serious chat…

This chat with Steve Round that Arseblog News uncovered whet my appetite no end.

“One, what a magnificent club Arsenal are…it’s just a great, great football club. It’s a massive club.

“The other thing [that attracted me], was to work with him [Mikel]. I knew he’d need a bit of experience and some knowledge from the domestic game. I think he’s got a real chance to become one of the best coaches in the world, let alone the UK. I didn’t hesitate to join.

I just like putting things like this in the blog, because that opinion Steve Round has is not rare in the game. I think we have an extremely exciting setup and though Steve Round isn’t the sexiest of names in the game, his expertise is deep and his experience is going to be hugely valuable to the club over the next 3 years.

The most fascinating part, outside how they use data, is how dedicated the new team are to culture.

“We’re continually working on emotional intelligence and leadership styles within the group, whether that’s the head coach, the two assistant head coaches or even the captains’ group within the team. How you formulate that is bringing togetherness, spirit. Humour is always a very good energy developer. You’re forever trying to build a resonant environment and take it away from dissonance. Discipline, self-discipline and making sure that our behaviour, positive behaviours are continually reinforced. Negative behaviours are pulled up, there are certain things we will not accept.

“If a teammate is showing disrespect to another teammate, perhaps the ball hasn’t come to him and he’s thrown his arms up. That’s telling the world this guy has made a mistake. We don’t blame like that. We don’t do that. If the guy has made a mistake our responsibility is to help him overcome that mistake. Our responsibility, me personally, is to try and make sure the next time he doesn’t make the same mistake again.

This is how big businesses, particularly with creative outputs, think about culture. It’s such a mature vision of how things should be. It’s been sorely missed over the last few years.

Arsene Wenger built an incredible environment for the players, but he didn’t build one that focused on winning. Also, contrary to popular belief, he wasn’t a big one-on-one guy. It was a culture of comfort that lacked direction and vision. That was his undoing.

Unai Emery just wasn’t a good people person. If the guy running the show is a bit on the spectrum, it’s going to be next to impossible for him to cultivate a culture built on empathy and strong communications lines.

Arteta is hopefully going to bring back the good bits from Wenger. Pride about the badge, a great environment, and the love the players didn’t get from Emery… but he’ll combine it with early years Wenger ruthlessness. We need a bit of winnertivity back at the club, we need updated standards, and we need the players to know that their job is more than turning up every day. I loved reading Martinelli talk about how Mikel asked him to assess his own movement so they could discuss. It’s a basic, but it’s a level of intimacy a lot of managers struggle with. The key to it all is this manager makes learning interesting. Engaging 21-year-olds who play football in education is no easy task, but it seems to be getting a good reaction.

To make all this fancy new thinking, you still need to have elite players coming through the door. There are major question marks over whether Edu has it in him to make that happen. Seeing us linked to players outside the coterie of agents we lean on would be a nice start. We’ve tried to bandage the squad with top 4-ish players and it didn’t work. We now need to focus on a sharper vision with youth, power, pace and high level thinking at the core.

The good news is we’re in Month 6 of Arteta and the good news is still flowing through. Let’s hope we can make some moves on the table when the game resumes. It’d be great to finish this never-ending season on a high!

Though losing 3-2 to Brentford isn’t exactly promising. Tears Emoji x3

Right, I’m off, see you in the comments x

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MidwestGun

Well Peds we aren’t all mask free here in Texas… still wear one to the grocery store and hardware store and you know the surf board store when we need some wax. But for example.. the county I live in has 300 cases out of a population of half a million. and 200 of those have recovered. So not exactly a pandemic here. The fallacy peeps from NYC often make is that NY is the center of the universe when it’s not even close. Huge country. Anyhow… Frozen Marg’s are the best. As for the football I can’t wait to… Read more »

Mark S

Top 6

rollen

Great talk just like Arteta . Now the time to deliver. Ivan talked even better before and it ended in disaster.

Upstate Gooner

“…he’s got a real chance to become one of the best coaches in the world”

But… but… I thought he (Arteta) already was one of the best coaches in the world.

NJ Gooner

Number 9. Malcolm MacDonald!

NJ Gooner

Thank you Pedro for an interesting piece. I do hope that you’ll get a COVID-19 test if you are just back from Texas. I think you have a higher chance of infection there than if you stood in the midst of the demo in Foley Square! And as for the data, I wonder what Arteta will take away from a 3-2 loss to Brentford? Confidence is the big incalculable in football and it must have taken a real collective dent after a result like that.Couldn’t really be worse before we have to play Man City. This is where Mikel earns… Read more »

Jim Lahey

May I ask a question? What is the fucking point of us playing away to City? We know they are going to beat us, they know they are going to beat us. Why don’t the clubs come together and decide on not playing a needless game. Give City the 3 points and to be generous to us only a +2 goal difference and move on. No need to play a game that everyone already know the outcome of.

NJ Gooner

Jim,

Maybe the virtue of playing them is to see if the gap is narrowing or not?

They spanked us the last few times. For any analyst the players’ performance may tell us something valuable as might the tactics we use.

rollen

lol Jim . Bet all your money on City’s win then.

Jamie

We conceded 3 against Brentford in the 2nd half earlier. City will embarrass us.

As soon as Ozil came on, we started leaking goals like a sieve. He’s a very intelligent footballer, though. Just ask Pierre to explain how football works.

Marc

Jim

Fuck it we could not bother with any matches in any season. Maybe pull names out of a hat or let City write a big cheque to all the other teams to let them be Champions.

Marc

Jamie

I’ll be honest I didn’t even know we had a friendly – I assume we more or less played 2 different teams 1st and 2nd half. Do you know the line ups?

Pedro

‘Why not give up’

An interesting point to ponder

Jim Lahey

@Marc –

Well it wouldn’t be for every team, take for example teams on the level of Brentford. We would play those because we could potentially beat them…

Marc

Jim

As CG has predicted us to finish below Watford I’d give up completely if I were you.

Jim Lahey

@Marc –

I don’t see how we could ever hope to finish above a team with Troy Deeney in it.

Upstate Gooner

Jamie
“As soon as Ozil came on, we started leaking goals like a sieve.”

May I ask how exactly Ozil was at fault for giving up 3 goals to Brentford? Genuinely interested.

Dissenter

Midwest
Seems you live in one of the liberal enclaves of Texas, Austin or San Antonio.
There are places in Texas where the store owners kick you out if you’re wearing a a face mask.

Henry Root

Can’t see the point of playing anyone we might lose to. Competitive fixtures who needs them.? City have never lost to anyone in about fifty years ………except Wigan and Crystal Palace and Leicester . …oh and Wolves.
Hopefully next season we can arrange to play only teams in the bottom half of the table

Dissenter

Upstae
“…he’s got a real chance to become one of the best coaches in the world”

But… but… I thought he (Arteta) already was one of the best coaches in the world.

…Don Pedro is just preparing the ground for what may come.

jwl

Jamie/Jim Lahey – it is like first game of the season, results are unpredictable, I think we have much better chance now to beat ManCity than we would’ve in March but I’m not too hopeful either.

I wonder how close todays first half squad will be to who starting at Man City. Anyone know if Torr injured, why didn’t he get some minutes today, surely Arteta can’t hate him that much.

Anyways, I will look for gruesome highlights later.

Dissenter

The loss doesn’t matter because we conceded 3 goals after he took out most of the heavy hitters and brought Dozil in.

Marc

Dissenter

“Don Pedro is just preparing the ground for what may come.”

You do have to wonder if Pedro’s unproven claims against Sanllehi are just him preparing a villain if (and I hope it doesn’t happen) Arteta is not a success.

The Godfather

Arteta lost to Brentford?
Lawd have mercy

Danny

…..and so it begins…….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y4QXMPH7wY

Useroz

We’d analyse and opine the heck out of it… Was it Luiz? AMN? Or just not serious enough? I’d think any 11 of our first teams who play serious would beat Brentford. But of course shit happens. __________ First half XI: Leno; Bellerin, Mustafi, Pablo Mari, Tierney; Willock, Ceballos, Saka; Pepe, Nketiah, Aubameyang Second half XI: Leno; Bellerin, Mustafi, David Luiz, Tierney; Maitland-Niles, Guendouzi, Ozil; Aubameyang, Lacazette, Saka Subs: 60 – Martinez for Leno 60 – Sokratis for Bellerin 60 – Holding for Mustafi 60 – Kolasinac for Tierney 60 – Nelson for Aubameyang 60 – Martinelli for Saka 85… Read more »

azed

AMN lost the ball just in front of our box.

After all the praising from CG, AMN drops the ball.

azed

Did Saka play in a midfield three? Or as a 10 in a 4-2-3-1 formation?

Upstate Gooner

Luiz at fault for the 1st goal, Lacazette for the 2nd, and I think it was AMN (?) for the 3rd. All because the aforementioned individuals lost the ball in dangerous positions while doing god knows what… but according to some Ozil is still at fault somehow.

Useroz

Now we’d all play. Sherlock and reconstruct the crime scene!

Looks like 1 – 1 at the hour mark and all hell broke loose after that … coincided with the changes made at 60”.

Not settled in quick enough may be? Best to lose now than next week.

__________

Joe Willock put the Gunners ahead just before the break but the Bees hit back on the hour mark through Tariq Fosu. Despite Alex Lacazette putting us back in front, the visitors sealed victory thanks to further strikes by Halil Dervisoglu and Shandon Baptiste.

Upstate Gooner

Xhaka, Mustafi, AMN – these 3 should be the first ones out of the door in that particular order. Whoever thinks those players (and I use this term very loosely here) can still serve a purpose and most importantly play football should really have their heads checked.

Useroz

Looking at the teams, Tierney played LB so Saka must have taken the left MF first half and LW in the second.

Upstate Gooner

Followed by Sokratis

Gentlebris

Some of the comments are really fun filled.

In all sincerity though, all that will be determined is how heavily(or not)they beat us. You don’t beat a side like Citey if you have got no midfield.

jwl

Thanks for video, Danny, now I don’t need to find myself. Liked Willock but not much else.

Don’t become another fanboy of Ozil like Pierre, Upstate Gooner.

jwl

Thanks for video, Danny, now I don’t need to find myself. Liked Willock goal but not much else.

Don’t become another fanboy of Ozil like Pierre, Upstate Gooner.

Marc

Always difficult to judge a match on a couple of minutes but am I right in thinking that the great idea of having Sok at RB was a disaster with 2 goals coming down that side and that AMN then made a mistake that was involved in one of those goals as well?

Marc

Dissenter

How would you describe Sok as a first choice backup for RB now?

Useroz

It’d seem old gambits still die hard even after countless zoom sessions MA held with these talent! We still have a tendency to lose the ball in the worse part of the pitch.

Luiz, Laca and AMN??

Luiz we know. But Laca also costed us several goals that way many times in live matches!. He shouldn’t be in our own third anyway.

Would be happy to get a draw next week. Even better if a nil nil draw. At least a clean sheet.

Upstate Gooner

jwl
“Don’t become another fanboy of Ozil like Pierre, Upstate Gooner.”

LOL… Too late. HUGE fan of Ozil since 2010 World Cup. I even have an Ozil Fathead in my basement (if you know what that is). Still think he’s a quality footballer. Overpaid? Perhaps… Not suited for Arsenal? Possibly… but still quality. Look, I give him credit when he plays well, and criticize him when he plays poorly. It just irks me when everything and anything gets blamed on him for no good reason.

Marc

Upstate

“Xhaka, Mustafi, AMN ”

For a minute you cheered me up there – I mean just think how bad it would’ve been if Xhaka and Mustafi had started.

Then I remembered that Xhaka will start against City and Mustafi might be on the bench.

Thanks fucking not!!!

Marc

” I even have an Ozil Fathead in my basement”

Pierre’s got the real thing!

Upstate Gooner

Marc
“Pierre’s got the real thing!”

LOL.

Pierre

There we go , Saka played behind Nketiah.

Tierney left back , Aubameyang wide left Pepe wide right , Nketiah up top and Saka in the hole .

I did say it may be the only way to fit Saka into the side as Tierney and Aubameyang are nailed on starters.

The other option is to play one holding midfielder and play Saka and Willock more advanced .

Marc

Pierre

We haven’t seen enough to really know how well it worked but it doesn’t look outstanding does it?

Upstate Gooner

How does one post a picture here? Or a link?

The Godfather

All three goals came in the second half from turnovers …

David Luiz loses the ball in midfield for the first
Laca loses the ball foolishly near our 18.
And AMN caps the night with another dumb turnover near the box and it leads to a third.

Feel bad for Martinez cuz he really had no chance on either.
Good thing Leno kept a clean sheet and Bellerin showed a nice burst on the approach for the first goal

jwl

Upstate Gooner – For links, you just copy/paste but don’t know about photos.

Dissenter

Marc
“DissenterHow would you describe Sok as a first choice backup for RB now?”

From that video, do you really think Luiz is any better?

DigitalBob

Godfather – A lot of silly mistakes in those goals, you hate to see it. All the goals looked very avoidable if Arsenal players involved were concentrating .

AMN still with the brainfarts on the pitch……..come on get it together, the midfield is there for the taking at the moment.

Luiz and Sokratis looking like footballing relics is predictable. Please do not renew their deals Mikel!

Marc

Luiz wasn’t playing at RB and made a mistake through hubris because he was playing against a team in a division so low I don’t even know where it ranks in the scheme of things – Sok looked out of his depth at RB against that precise opposition.

Tell me again how Sok is a good option for RB backup?

Santan

“Overpaid? Perhaps…”

A mark of a true Ozil fan through and through. Admitting he’s “slightly just maybe overpaid” through his teeth lol

Marc

Bob

Essentially it was a pre season match and you do see those type of mistakes in pre season.

What can’t be ignored is that Sok is not a RB and should never be used there.

Santan

“What can’t be ignored is that Sok is not a RB and should never be used there.”

Can’t believe people need to be told that

Dissenter

Marc
I said PapSok was okay for just-okay back up till the end of the season — back up
You still think Luiz is good enough to have his contract renewed?

DigitalBob

Marc – I hear that, and won’t condemn AMN fully as I believe we have a really good player in there somewhere but its always a lapse of concentration that lets the lad down, pre-season or not it irks a little.

Hopefully he can iron out the mistakes from now till the end of the season.

Sokratis as an effective RB will never happen, looking pedestrian and static as a CB is one thing, but as a RB it’s a whole different type of shitshow.

Emiratesstroller

As I posted with the Charlton result last week we should not take too seriously
these friendlies.

However, no-one should be under any illusion that Arsenal are a top 4 team or
that we are currently better than a mid table team.

As I pointed out 2 weeks ago we have some difficult games until end of season
with games against Man City, Liverpool, Spurs, Leicester and Wolves.

Dissenter

Luiz was never the top dog at central defense in his entire career.
John Terry held his hand at Chelsea and Thiagio Silva guided him at PSG/Brazilian national team.
We all saw what happened when Thiago Silva got injured in the 2014 world cup. Germany tore apart Brazil partly because of Luiz’s horrible defending.

Marc

Dissenter Not really you didn’t and even if you had it’d still be stupid – our first choice RB is only recently back from an ACL and has been struggling for form and fitness. AMN has made it clear he doesn’t want to play there so he’s not really a good option either. To answer your question – I’d rather see Luiz’s contract renewed and him given a raise from his current £125 k per week than see Sok at RB for more than 13 seconds. I don’t have a problem with Sok but he isn’t and never will be… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

DigitalBob

As I pointed earlier today AMN is no better than a mid table EPL player and
there are younger players in our squad who are better potential in FB,W and
MF positions.

Defensively he is weak both in concentration and anticipation and he is not
remotely good enough in offensive positions either.

The time has come to offload him.

Marc

Dissenter

I hate to burst your bubble but no one on here has ever proclaimed Luiz to be a combination of Adam’s, Keown, Campbell and Beckenbauer reincarnated.

You’re trying to deflect from your silly comment that Sok could be a reliable option for RB backup.

It’s actually dafter than suggesting that I should be someone’s sober companion!

azed

Upstate

AMN is the best footballer at the club. We just don’t know it yet.

Don’t believe me? Ask C.G

DigitalBob

Stroller – He’s yet to have an extended run in his preferred position so I can’t agree he’s proven to be only of mid-EPL quality just yet, but I do agree in regards to his concentration and anticipation, it just needs to be better, he’s young enough to become more focused over the 90 minutes so lets see.

Emiratesstroller

DigitalBob

We need a better class of players in midfield and I think that Aubameyang, Pepe,
Martinelli, Saka and Nelson are a considerable upgrade to AMN on the wing.

So where do you suggest we play him?

Dissenter

Marc I said PapSok or AMN could be reasonable back-ups for RB till the end of the season. Don’t you know what a back-up means?… consider that I said for SHORT TERM coverage. I see you’re glossing over all your defense of Luiz’s quality. [Luiz] ” made a mistake through hubris because he was playing against a team in a division so low I don’t even know where it ranks in the scheme of things” What in the world does that even made. He’s shite at defending, quality defenders look even better when they face shite teams. You wanted him… Read more »

Marc

Dissenter

Short term coverage = mucho mistakes Sok is not capable of playing at RB.

Please list the trophies that Luiz has won in his career whilst being equally rubbish at CB?

DigitalBob

Stroller – Not out wide for any other reason than cover due to an injury. He should be considered one of our central midfield options. We have Torreira, Guendozi, Willock, Xhaka and Ceballos at the moment. I would add AMN to that list. He’s not as of yet proven to be a better midfielder than anyone else on that list based on what we’ve seen so far but no one on that list is world class and so he has the “potential” to displace any of them in a starting 11. Look I’d rather have Partey or Ndidi, or an… Read more »

NJ Gooner

What happened to Soares at RB? Has he left the club or is he still injured?

Northbanker

Friendlies may mean nothing but do they? It’s more evidence that Arteta needs to be bolder with clearing out the older dross and that starts with not extending Luiz’s contract.

Dissenter

NJGooner
“What happened to Soares at RB? Has he left the club or is he still injured?”

Direct is at Marc
That’s the second warm up game he hasn’t been fielded.
What’s the point of his signing if Arteta is still forced to try PapSok at RB?

Dissenter

*Direct it at Marc
That’s the second warm up game he hasn’t been fielded.
What’s the point of his signing if Arteta is still forced to try PapSok at RB?

Marc

Soares is so so good at RB that he’s deemed to good to play against lower teams.

Apparently the Pope is preparing to announce that he’ll be the next human to go through Beatification.

Imagine a living fucking saint for £2.5 million?

Dissenter

Marc must be the only one who thinks 2.5 million is a small fee for a back-up RB for 3.5 months.
The lad isn’t being readied to play in games since Arteta isn’t using him on friendlies.
Is it possible that Arteta does not rate Soares and will prefer to play PapSok, with all his ugly deficiencies in that position?

Soares..where at thou? 🙂

Northbanker

OMG – is Dissenter still on that Soares soap box- so funny. We’ve wasted money on so much dross and you’ve chosen to focus on this?

Marc- lol

Overmars

I’m glad that was just a friendly. Sloppy mistakes cost us the 3 goals, maybe with 2 games in a matter of days – mentally they switched off. We do that against City, we’ll be punished.

On the positive note, it’s nice to see Lacazette and Willock in among the goals again, 2 players that have wrongly been heavily criticized by the Arsenal fan base. Maybe playing in an empty stadium will be positive for them, as you haven’t got idiots relentlessly moaning and groaning every time they do something wrong.

Bojangles

“as you haven’t got idiots relentlessly moaning and groaning every time they do something wrong.”

Thank fuck they don’t have access to Let Grove at match time.

Overmars

Bojangles

Le Grove, Twitter, Instagram, Newspapers, TV Pundits… If was a player, I’d just listen to my manager and coaches. Switch everything else off.

Overmars

… And Pierre’s best mate – Piers Morgan.

China1

Am I reading this right that we lost to fucking brentford???

By multiple goals?

Deary fucking me. It might be a friendly but Arteta needs to pull his finger out. With or without a trash midfield (with) we should still be beasting a team like BRENTFORD Christ

Dissenter

It just occurred to me that Zaha is not getting a look-in from Chelsea again. They would rather spend the money on a. very special young player with a high ceiling, like we did for Pepe.
Next time don’t sign a long term deal for a club that you’re trying to exit from.

Johnno

Has anyone on here ever actually played or coached a single game ever ? We made how many subs ? 12. 12! You can’t gauge anything team wise here. It’s a warm up. It’s not the end of the fucking world. Calm the fuck down children. I’d say that it looks like Arteta is doing all he can to get more athleticism in midfield for the last 9 games. Saka. AMN and Willock all featuring in friendlies Looks more 4-3-3- With less strollers. all good with me. Won’t be perfect because we have a poor and unbalanced squad – a… Read more »

China1

Dissenter zaha is not a Chelsea level player and is probably not going to be. At that price it would’ve been a strange way to burn through their transfer kitty

China1

Johno it was also just a warm up for the mighty Brentford but they still did us

It being a friendly and having lots of subs is not a legitimate excuse to concede 3 goals against a pub team.

China1

I’m really interested in willock’s development

His goal threat is akin to Ramsey/Lampard imo, so the question is can he consistently do enough with the rest of his game in the middle of the pitch to be a worthy starter

He’s definitely unlike our other kids. He’s also big and pretty solidly built for his age so he has that too

Overmars

China1 Agree about Willock. He has the physical strength, good pace, carries the ball well, time will tell if he has that natural instinct to arrive late in the box, like a Lampard, Ramsey or even Deli Ali. His weakness is that his head goes down after a few bad passes, and then he’ll try and make up for it by trying impossible balls rather than keeping it simple. But Willock, along with AMN, Guendouzi, Nelson Smith-Rowe, Martinelli, Nketiah and Saka… are all under 22 years old.. Fans are quick to write them all off after 1 or 2 bad… Read more »

Habesha Gooner

Nelson is looking sharp in training and Matches. I have no doubt about his skills. I have doubts about his confidence. Willock impresses me because he has a knack for scoring goals. Luiz losing the ball in midfield wasn’t a good look and Holding didn’t do enough not to let the shot come in. Sokratis was out of position too. Lacazette gifted them the second. AMN has always had problems concentrating and decision making. It will come down to those things if he is going to make it here. Anyway we need to clear out the old players in the… Read more »

Overmars

Habesha

I usually love it when players are laid back and the pace and pressure of the match doesn’t effect how they play, but I agree with you about AMN, there’s a time and a place to be casual, and sometimes he doesn’t find that balance. Again, he’s only 22 and I would hope that Arteta coaches the occasional sloppiness out of him. If he doesn’t learn, Arteta will let him go.

Wasi

Pedro ‘Seeing us linked to players outside the coterie of agents we lean on would be a nice start’ Just off the top of my head id say Partey , Jonathan David , Orkon Kukcu , Rugani , Disasi , Diallo , Amiens striker ( I just cant seem to remember his name ) , Fraser , Aouchiche , Boadu , Edouard , Ajer , Benrahma , etc. Just to put it into perspective I’ll also link the players who are apparently being pushed towards us by super agents – Willian , Kurzawa yeah and thats it. 2 off the… Read more »

Dark Hei

There is football??!!!

I am getting parts of my life back!

Graham62

Johnno

No, many haven’t.

Habesha Gooner

Overmars
I just want to be sure like Iwobi, that letting him go will be a right decision. If we get a stupid offer like 25 mil+ I would sell him. If not he should be given a proper chance before he is binned. I want him to show he can learn and stop being Casual and show he can concentrate. So far what he has shown is not enough but I believe he has a lot more in him. We need to be sure before we end up with another Gnabry, Bennacer or Malen situation.

Arteta is not the saviour he’s a very naughty boy. As someone said wether it’s a friendly or not, we shouldn’t be losing 3-2 to Brentford. I feel sorry for people who really believe Arteta is the one to lead us out of this malaise which has gripped the club since kroenke took over. Bar one or two average signings next year the majority of the team will be the same next year. Arteta is on a hiding to nothing and I feel sorry for him

Under the kroenke’s our best players were allowed to leave and WANTED to leave because the club didn’t show same ambition the players themselves had. From being the 2nd/3rd best team in premier League, to being a team that is barely a top 10 team. Yet people still think the kroenke’s are not to blame. The fucking stats don’t lie, a champions League team, to a championship team under the kroenke’s

Pierre

I think willock may surprise many on Le Grove. He has a natural ability and willingness to find goalscoring positions , is a good striker of ball and scores all types of goals , headers , 25 yarders , flicks , scruffy goals , tap ins. Willock should sharpen up on his first touch and his passing but he is a strong runner in possession and has decent pace. I would like Arteta try a system with one holding midfielder and 2 either side playing more advanced , similar to liverpool. I believe we have the players for the 4-3-3.… Read more »

Wasi

Thankyou…

Nobody beleive the Kroenke’s arent at fault.
They are the ones at the top of the fault chart.

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