Well good morning to you all.
The Athletic is running a story that David Luiz cost us £24m for a year, and they confirmed his salary of £200k a week, a story we gave you in December.
I hope that people now start to see why I have deep concerns about how Arsenal are being run at the moment.
Think about this.
We wouldn’t let Laurent Koscielny leave on a free.
He went on strike to move.
We eventually squeezed a £5m fee.
Key takeaway: Arsenal won’t be messed around, this is a new era of deal-making.
Arsenal knew Laurent wanted to move a long way in advance. The club was going to need to sign a centre back with a good left foot. Arsenal has elite analysts and scouts. Those scouts apparently had a name on the list from Dortmund that we could have landed for a good price (who is apparently still interesting Arsenal).
Instead, we raid Chelsea for David Luiz. We up his salary from £125k a week to £200k a week. We drop a massive agent fee of £6m. We give the player a ONE year deal, with an option for two.
£24m for a single season.
There’s no way to paint that sort of deal in a positive light. It is massively inefficient, it is shortsighted, and it was clearly driven by an agent because no footballing man worth his salt would sanction expenditure like that based on rigorous analysis of the market.
I was told that the deal would end up at about £40m at the time, which people guffawed at, but The Athletic correlates the story by stating that ‘intermediaries’ are due another round of fees if we go in for another year.
The interesting part about The Athletic piece is it appears to be a leak from the old school part of Arsenal. Raul bypassing the board to make decisions was a big part of why Sir Chips left, according to Amy Lawrence. Whatever you think of our powerless board, you have to say, that is a huge red flag. Also, remember, Sven Mislintat left because of the contacts approach. Say what you will about his signings, at least they were grounded in more than a whisper in the ear.
Also, I am pretty certain you’re all going to wince when you get the breakdown of the fee for Pepe. Those fees were so large, the Italian clubs had to say no.
This is why the two system leadership setup is a very bad idea. You need a proper sporting CEO that oversees the deals and makes sure that every signing is made for the benefit of the club. Arsenal should also have a board in place to scrutinise the financial aspects of the deals put to them. We should have business people who understand the financial aspects and footballing people to ask whether the move makes sense for the future of the club. Think about the genius of what Raul has managed to do. He’s convinced Josh K to not hire a CEO, he’s managed to sell co-leadership with a junior partner as his sidekick, and he’s managed to minimize board scrutiny to the point where the chairman has quit the club.
The big question is this: What the fuck is Josh Kroenke up to? Parachuting in to tell the fans to get excited, but being tentatively involved is a dereliction of duty. He’s like a Prince being shoved around by his more worldly courtiers.
Anyway, this summer, you have the same agent that on occasion shares a box with Edu and Raul, pushing Coutinho and Willian our way. We were ever so close to landing Willian, I’m not sure if it’s happening now, but again, what will the agent fee look like? If Raul sold Luiz as a bargain, it’s probably not going to be hard to convince Josh K that Willian and Coutinho are smart signings… seems it’s about as simple as sending a Youtube Video title WELCOME TO ARSENAL COUTINHO MAD SKILLZ AND GOALS.
Still, I’m glad a story like this is out from someone credible. Hopefully, it’ll wake the fans up to the sort of decision making going on at Arsenal. Maybe, just maybe, it’ll make the club shape up and play it smarter this summer. Or, maybe, the current climate will put a kibosh on decadent fees as KSE moves hard to buckle up the finances.
The absolutely mad thing about all of this is a longterm career at Arsenal would be much easier to achieve if the club just did things properly. Spend money wisely, bring in elite youth, make the wage bill lean, buy low and sell high. Literally replicate the Liverpool model. A Football CEO / Sporting Director with Champions League medals will command far higher salaries than those without them. I just don’t get why you’d throw bad money at super-agents and denigrate your reputation.
The club is Raul’s now, let’s hope that Arteta can deliver despite him and that one day KSE will wake-up and take Arsenal seriously.
Anyway, onwards. x
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Tro4hy
That’s a lot of money for a cb especially not a great one
Pedro Oh dear it was all going so well. “Literally replicate the Liverpool model.” From the last set of available numbers: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/apr/04/liverpool-paid-43m-agents-spurs-113m-profit-record https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/premier-league-agents-fees-260-million-liverpool-wolves-tottenham https://talksport.com/football/522499/liverpool-paid-agent-fees-premier-league-clubs/ Actual numbers that are required to be published by the PL show that Liverpool paid out £17 million more than any other club and a number that was almost 4 times what Arsenal did. I’d say (if you’re right about Sanllehi) that the next set of figures will show that Arsenal are doing precisely that and following the Liverpool model. Although I must admit that I don’t think that’s what you actually meant – if only… Read more »
Sir Chips was either weak, naive or stupid so his departure, like his tenure, feels irrelevant.
Some proper attention is required by KSE and an appointment of CEO with financial incentives not a high base rate.
A shame that KSE, when finally listening to fans, have continued to make poor decisions/appointments, directly and indirectly.
Really highlights their unsuitability for owning a football club.
Imagine getting into bed with them as a small investor..
Vince McMahon said Stan is not a good businessman and that’s proving right with AFC
Raul is an idiot If it’s true that we paid agent fees of £6 million for a one year deal [with option of extending to two years]
How in the world do you pay £8 million to Chelsea for a 32 year old not-so-good defender ….for a one year contract?
CG has a point – he’s tuning out to be right about Raul.
No wonder Ozil refused to take a pay cut.
Marc, Liverpool have literal rocket scientists running their scouting department. Their approach to building a football club is not favors from super agents. It is decisions built on a foundation of data.
They are top of the league with a Champions League medal. We’re 9th having just broke 40 points.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/magazine/soccer-data-liverpool.html
Whatever Liverpool are doing…is certainly working for them.
Their U-23 team easily beat Everton’s first team in the FA cup so they have a party forward.
Raul needs someone to check him very quickly.
I hope these numbers about the Luiz deal are not true.
“”””The big question is this: What the fuck is Josh Kroenke up to?””””
Well he has been asking players to take pay cuts.( Arsenal the only club to do so)
And it will soon be the time of the year ,when he is wheeled out to patronize the fan base with his’ be excited ‘BS’ as the season ticket renewal money needs to come in.
KSE , Taking the piss for a decade.
Great post 10/10.
I’d keep Luiz for another year if he agrees to a (steep) pay cut. He’d be fool too not to except since no other club will give him what he makes now, probably not even half of his current salary. No to Coitinho and Willian for me. Coutinho is damaged goods. And while I do like Willian, he’d just be another expensive and aging player that we don’t need.
Pedro
You’re deflecting – you made out as if Liverpool are doing amazing transfer business without paying out huge agent fees.
They spent circa £160 million on transfers and then £43 million more on fees.
You can’t have it both ways.
Yanks have ruined the club… The fuckers can’t even sort out their own back yard.
Now they fuck up our clubs…
Get them out so they can go play football with a rugby.
Upstate
It’s got nothing to do with Willians age or how much he’d cost – he’s a wide player. We’ve got Pepe, Saka, Martinelli and Nelson who are wide players, when we’ve got zero CM’s why would you buy a wide player when you’ve got 4 good players to fill 2 positions?
Say what you will about his signings, at least they were grounded in more than a whisper in the ear. I’ve no idea what this means but a reminder Sven signed Sokratis and Litchsteiner when better affordable defenders were available. Meanwhile since he left and Raul and Edu came in there’s been a by and large clear vision going forward we want younger players with potential. He’s convinced Josh K to not hire a CEO Do we know that we are not getting a CEO in eventually? The big question is this: What the fuck is Josh Kroenke up to?… Read more »
RSPC
Raul is Spaniard and so is Arteta
But yeah no to Willian, Fraser and Coutinho and the likes fingers crossed for the types of signings like Almada, David, Boadu, Gabriel Veron etc etc young prospects with high potential for value
Mark
Are you really sure the signings have gotten better
I mean, we are signing Cedric Soares who’s no longer good enough for Southampton and an inexperienced 26 year old defender from Brazil who’s failed out in Europe.
I’m not so sure the Raul signings are better.
Diss
They dont own the club…
They are just employees
The sceptics pull the strings on the puppets
Marko
It’s funny how Sanllehi is all contact based but Mislintat who whilst overseeing recruitment bought 3 players he knew from his Dortmund days.
Dis
“”””CG has a point – he’s tuning out to be right about Raul.
No wonder Ozil refused to take a pay cut.”””
Hence my choice of Sean Dyche as manager.
Do you think Dyche stands for all this skullduggery at Burnley?
Do you think he would allow Raul and Edu to brazenly enter the locker room every match ?
Dyche would boot the tubby Spaniard all the way to Madrid if he interfered with his management remit.
‘Hence my choice of Sean Dyche as manager.’
ffs…
Mind we have had a fair few cheap shit young players
Wellington
Conor …
Ryo
Inamoto
Plus many more
Under sceptic ownerships we have fallen so far from the proud club we were.
Wow, that’s a dizzying number when you consider the quality of player in return. Madness. So much blame to go around.
Please elaborate if you can on the Pepe figures. Even if it’s hearsay I’d be eager to know how much in total this deal cost us. Despite the finances I’m a fan of the guy and believe he will add his name to the list of quality wide men ever to wear the shirt.
My thoughts exactly in regards to deals for Willian and Coutinho, no and no. I hope Don Raul doesn’t do something stupid this summer.
Dissenter
I don’t know if you’re being deliberately thick or what but there’s “Marc” which is me and “Marko” who is another poster.
Their approach to building a football club is not favors from super agents. It is decisions built on a foundation of data.
Still go through agents and pay top dollar for it. I actually agree with the sentiment behind it we should be more like Liverpool who have a type of player and stick within that criteria of player but at the same time you wax lyrical on their data driven approach to transfers but they still ended up getting the likes of VVD and Alisson at astronomical prices instead of when they were younger and cheaper.
Bob
Sanllehi paid the agents £2.3 billion on the Pepe deal – it’s a fact.
Of course in a few months when the official PL information is published it’ll be conveniently forgotten and the subject will move onto:
“Sanllehi buy’s brightly coloured socks”
RSPC
Then I guess the yanks are doing well at Liverpool
When they win the title, the league can play the star sprangled banner even though the CEO, manager and players aren’t Americans.
So Pedro’s gone from: Arsene is holding us back because he won’t deal with big agents Raul is the saviour becomes he loves to get into bed with big agents Onto…. Maybe Arsene was right after all? We should sign Pepe I can’t believe we paid the premium to ensure we got to the front of the line to sign Pepe….. This is our best summer in years, Emery should 100% be getting third. If My bum Chum Arteta fails? It will be Raul’s fault, Arteta hasn’t got much to work with. The mental gymnastics from Pedro is something to… Read more »
Marc
My last post was directed at Marko…my auto complete couldn’t process the ‘o’.
My autocomplete only has you and Mark because it’s been a while since Marko showed up here.
Why are you so cranky today, did you stump your little toe.?
Dissenter
I’ll have you know I’m cranky every fucking day!
You want to make something of it?
I am still preaching the Marcus Thuram gospel…I am telling you for free(to use Sid’s words) we should be all over this guy
Are you really sure the signings have gotten better
Yes. In Saliba, Martinelli, Pepe and Tierney the signings have gotten better. Even Cedric gives me hope because it shows that they are finally acknowledging that we need a RB. Besides that you know how much of a profit we are likely to make on the signings made under Raul compared to the signings under Sven? Guendouzi and Torreira aside Sven’s signings aren’t likely to get us much by way of transfer fees
Rich
You’re not being fair to Peds
He’s always derided Raul for being a ‘contacts’ guy while Mislintat was the good data driven genius . He suspended his derision after the Pepe deal and the creative way we used to finance it.
If those numbers about the Luiz deal are true then can you blame him for going back to his original position?
Last summers business will be judged over the next season, Tierney I think will come good, providing we can keep him fit.
I think Pepe will improve.
Martinelli looks a gem, and could have a high ceiling.
We got shot of Mkhitaryan, Iwobi, Welbeck, and replaced with Saka, Nelson, Martinelli, which was always a medium term decision that would hurt us in the immediate.
Torreira and Guendouzi were medium term signings the summer before, and at 21 and 23 certainly are still nowhere near peaking.
I don’t know if you’re being deliberately thick or what
He did just say “CG has a point – he’s tuning out to be right about Raul.
No wonder Ozil refused to take a pay cut” so you know
Try reading this report from KPMG showing how the Enterprise Value of the top European clubs has fluctuated. Liverpool and Tottenham have murdered us and only AC Milan has dropped more than us in value .
Good that Gazidis was t he!?
https://footballbenchmark.com/documents/files/KPMG%20The%20European%20Elite%202020_Online%20version_.pdf
PedRo
“”””Hence my choice of Sean Dyche as manager.’ffs…””””
And what use is Arteta , if he being served up players like Luiz , Cedric, Willian and co?
This Arsenal job is virtually an impossible job and we expect it to work out with a novice ??!!
I just feel we need a tough, experienced
and streetwise manager for a spell.
He might even choose a No.2 as talented as MA.
Thats my opinion.
And I wont change from it.
Dissenter
” while Mislintat was the good data driven genius .”
Mislintat’s signings at Arsenal were pretty poor – Pedro still won’t tell us the BTS gossip he’s got on Guendozi.
All the while Dortmund keep signing exciting young players. If someone wants to make the argument we took the wrong guy from Dortmund I won’t argue.
I vaguely remember someone at the time saying Zorc was the one we should have gone for.
I was exited when we signed luiz, I thought he would add a bit of experience and leadership to our useless defence, boy how wrong I was.
he has been between average to total liability shit , under both Emery and Arteta..
It’s as bad signing as Silvestre and squillaci back in the day!
Arsene is holding us back because he won’t deal with big agents
This was very true. Straight out of the Arsene Wenger playbook not to deal with agents or give out a lot of money in agent fees and it cost us over the years. Ronaldo for one but more recently Mbappe. Imagine missing out on the biggest young talent on the planet because Arsene Wenger didn’t want to give agents or intermediaries 2 million euros for his signing. That lad is likely to go for upwards of 150-200 million when he eventually goes
Marc You do realize that spending £24 million on a single year deal for a 33 year old ought to be reasonable grounds for dismissal? Saliba – we have to wait to see if it was worth it. He looks promising Pepe – in hindsight we paid too much< hindsight is always perfect so I may not be fair to Raul Martinelli was signed by a Wenger-era scout , nothing to do with Raul. He’s the same astute signings that Wenger made every now and then like Kolo Toure, Laurent and Sagha. Cedric Saores never stood out at Southampton and… Read more »
Funny how when I was writing the same thing about Raul last year, I was the devil incarnate. Now that those are facts, the same misguided useful idiots who supported Emery are now arguing that we are going the right way anyway and play the whataboutery card. At the time of the deal, there was rumours that Pepe’s agents were under investigation by the French tax office. The Pepe deal will cost us an extra €20 millions in agents fees for a €70 millions deal. Now I want to know how much will be found in Monaco or any other… Read more »
In fairness to Ozil, if his agent is telling him that Arsenal have been throwIng money around like drunken sailors, why should he submit himself to a pay cut.
CG is right sometimes, hard to accept because he’s also asking for Sean Dyche in the same breath.
Pepe should be better next season.
But even if we overpaid by £30-£40 million including the fees?
Then you can offset that by signing Martinelli for £7 million, who we’d certainly get £50 million for now, even in this market.
£24m!!
For one season.
No wonder he came to us.
If this is true, whoever made this happen should be taken to the tower and sentenced to a painful execution, ASAP!
Ok, that’s it, Stan and Josh have to go out
have to go.
Dissenter
When you’ve got Josh Kroenke saying our wage bill is a problem do you not think that if Sanllehi has pissed a huge amount of money up the wall on agent fees he won’t be held to account?
The official PL figures on agent payments have been delayed this season but will hopefully be out soon – let’s see what they say?
CG, Arteta is a major bright spark for the club. Sean Dyche is a disgraceful recommendation.
Rich – I agree I think as long as he stays fit next season and doesn’t have any long spells out the team he will be great for us, quite possibly our most important attacking threat such is the potential there. Watching Sancho today for Dortmund against Padeborn, a wide man with the ability to cut inside(Sancho seems both footed however) with confidence and go at players is so very valuable. Martinelli, is also another player I think will step up even more so next season. I’d keep him out wide as I think the talk of him leading the… Read more »
Marc We all agree that the Kroenke’s are absentee landlords who don’t care until the property is dilapidated enough for being pulled down. I think the Kroenke’s never operated in a competitive field like the premier league. In the US, major professional sports is calibrated to make money no matter what. They have caps and restrictions on everything so you can run a club on cruise control. We’ve gone from all too powerful manager to an unchecked Raul, who does not even have a rifle to match the power he’s being foisted upon him. The Kroenkes won’t hold him accountable… Read more »
***” We’ve gone from all too powerful manager to an unchecked Raul, who does not even have a TITLE to match the power that’s being foisted upon him.”
Dissenter
Let’s see what the next set of numbers say and what Josh Kroenke’s reaction to them is.
Maybe the Kroenke’s will surprise us?
It’s certainly a buyers market.
Aarons
Upamecano
Partey although I’d prefer to keep Ceballos
Havertz
Diss
Our yank owners are greedy gutless cunts .
Marc, you think the agent numbers are going to come out and that will be the moment Josh realises something is up?
So CG still has a hard-on for Sean Dyche.. cute.
Dyche is the one manager that actually can’t beat arsenal and that’s who you are endorsing for arsenal manager?
Lolz
Mislintat’s reputation was built on digging up a gem of a youngster every couple of seasons and even then he probably had others pointing them out to him but he gets the credit as chief scout. When he arrives at Arsenal he is not in a position to just deliver a gem of a youngster every couple of years. When he comes into Arsenal there is a rebuild that is required. More than enough signings have to be spread out over one summer his first at the club. In those circumstances what were you expecting from Mislintat? You were expecting… Read more »
“In fairness to Ozil, if his agent is telling him that Arsenal have been throwIng money around like drunken sailors, why should he submit himself to a pay cut.”
He doesn’t need his agent telling him this, his monthly bank statement does it for him.
Pedro
Well if he knows already why hasn’t he acted?
I’m also skeptical that the numbers will show what you seem to think they will.
Let’s see what they say.
“””CG, Arteta is a major bright spark for the club. Sean Dyche is a disgraceful recommendation.
You would not have turned your nose up Alec Ferguson.
And I think Dyche has potentially the same qualities that Fergie showed at Aberdeen.
Two promotions to the prem with Burnley is outstanding.
Every week, they are fit, muscular, organised and firing on all cylinders.
No manager consistently extracts more from his players than SD.
You think Arteta could do what Dyche has done at Burnley?
Just snobbery from you lot, I am afraid.
Could Arteta or anyone done that?
The G
“””””If Josh Kroenke does not wake up and smell that he is taken for a ride by some shyster, he is either a complete moron or is on it.”””””
Josh looks too dopey to be on it.He definitely falls into the moron category.
No wonder Daddy Stan sent him to to run our affairs and not his American ones.
How about Jim McLean CG.
Fergie won in europe CG with Aberdeen which is a higher level than just getting promoted from the Championship.
What McLean did for Dundee United in the 80s was fantastic. Getting a small backwater club like that competing in european cup semi-finals and other semis such as UEFA Cup.
Dis
“”””You do realize that spending £24 million on a single year deal for a 33 year old ought to be reasonable grounds for dismissal?”””””
Poor old George got sacked for a lot less.
And he was an Arsenal legend as a player and manager.
Untenable.
Totally untenable.
Ish
“””How about Jim McLean CG.””””
Jim would have thrown Raul into the River Tay if he offered him Luiz.
Can’t see Kia loading Coutinho and Willian on the club this summer.
Too much expenditure even if Coutinho is just loan.
The club was quoted as saying that this period coming up is the most challenging for the club in it’s entire history and they would mean financially.
Probably for the best in the long run not getting mixed up with Willian and Coutinho.
Martinelli was signed by a Wenger-era scout , nothing to do with Raul.
Just to remind Francis Cagigao doesn’t make the signings at Arsenal.
He’s the same astute signings that Wenger made every now and then like Kolo Toure, Laurent and Sagha.
You mean signings that were attributed to and taken credit by Arsene Wenger.
Signing players from big clubs.
Henry and Bergkamp were signed from big clubs but they were only at that big club for the one period before signing up for Arsenal.
You don’t want a player from a big club that has been from pillar to post since initially joining a big club.
Catch them in their first stint at the big club.
Coutinho has been around too much now. Liverpool caught him at the right moment as previously he was with Inter only initially in his career.
In fairness to Ozil, if his agent is telling him that Arsenal have been throwIng money around like drunken sailors, why should he submit himself to a pay cut. Because it’s an extreme circumstance in football because he’s getting paid an undeserved amount. Why is it that the players at Roma for example had absolutely no issue with forgoing 4 months of pay to help out their club. The players there didn’t have an issue despite questionable signings over the years. Why is it for reason acceptable for the likes of Ozil at Arsenal? You’re an odd bird sometimes dissenter… Read more »
Ishola
‘Can’t see Kia loading Coutinho and Willian on the club this summer’
Don’t bet on it
Knowing what we know now about the Luiz deal, anything is possible.
Ishola
My concern with Courtinho would be more along the lines of – if Liverpool were so reluctant to let him go in the first place then why aren’t they interested in resigning him for a fee much lower than what they sold for?
Marko
The media reports to the time stated that Ozil was refusing a wage reduction partly because he believed the club was not in financial distress.
CG
Stop this Dyche nonsense
You’re making me look very bad now 😀😀😀
In those circumstances what were you expecting from Mislintat? Honestly Ishola I had big hopes for Mislintat I really did I was very excited post ballbag that someone like him was going to be doing the signings at Arsenal and after Auba and even Mhiki I was a little excited and then came Guendouzi and Torreira one I didn’t know anything about and the other was getting rave reviews in Italy and also at the time we were being linked with some good promising youngsters I remember Arne Maier was one Soyuncu another and there was links to other exciting… Read more »
Marc “My concern with Courtinho would be more along the lines of – if Liverpool were so reluctant to let him go in the first place then why aren’t they interested in resigning him for a fee much lower than what they sold for?” Yeah. I think he is spoiled goods now. Liverpool, Barca and Bayern. All massive clubs and a player loses that real hunger and passion when he has been around these sort of clubs for many seasons. Seen it all. Done it all. He is not going to have that real thirst coming to Arsenal after being… Read more »
The media reports to the time stated that Ozil was refusing a wage reduction partly because he believed the club was not in financial distress.
Yeah from the agent who’s another greedy fucker. It’s all irrelevant anyway literally everyone else can see what’s going on and are comfortable with helping out their club and football in the whole but apparently Mesut is refusing a 12% cut for honest reasons…come off it he was a guy who was threatened with a lack of playing time and couldn’t care less all he cares about is that fat wage and playing fortnite.
Well Marko as said before Mislintat’s rep wasn’t built on acquiring experienced older players on the cheap or for free.
If he stayed around he may well have come up with a couple of real gem youngsters future superstars as he did previously but we will never know of course as he didn’t stay around long enough.
Coutinho’s hardly finished. Christ he’s not the first or last player to fail at Barcelona and the only reason Bayern ain’t signing him permanently is because they were never interested in keeping him because of that price. Believe me if he was going for much cheaper they’d take him. 9 goals 8 assists for them this season is a pretty healthy return though not for his price
If he stayed around he may well have come up with a couple of real gem youngsters future superstars
That’s some excuse that. So it was time that stopped him from signing up better than Sokratis and Litchsteiner? I dunno I would have thought that there was nothing to stop him from doing what was kinda expected or hoped from him straight away. Maybe another year or two and another 100 million or two was what he needed.
Ishola
What was it a €10 million loan fee with a commitment to buy at €70 million.
Yeah I’ll pass thanks!
Marko
I’m not here to make excuses for Mislintat.
I’m just telling you what his rep was built on and that was cheap youngsters becoming top players every couple of seasons.
Players like Sokratis and Lichtsteiner don’t fall into that category do they.
Marko
No mate we weren’t interested in signing amazing young players who were potential superstars – we wanted old players from Dortmund.
Sanllehi signs – Luiz (older) and then Martinelli, Tierney, Saliba and Pepe.
Mislintat signs – Auba (older), Sok (older), Miki (older), Lich (fucking old) and then Torreira, Guen, Leno and Mavropanos.
Half of Mislintat’s signings were older, 20% of Sanllehi’s are. I don’t need to mention the success of the players concerned.
All the while Dortmund keep signing young exciting players and had no interest in taking Mislintat back.
tbf Marc were you expecting Mislintat to sign only youngsters with the potential to become superstars in his first summer that summer that required a rebuild with the squad and not that much money around to spend.
Not realistic was it.
Mislintat’s hit rate prior to joining Arsenal was around one young signing every couple of years that became a top player. Hardly compatible with that rebuild that was required in Emery’s first summer was it.
Ishola
Or it wasn’t him who was the brains behind the good deals.
Right now it’s not unreasonable to say that the only thing Mislintat was good at was selling his own ability.
Where did he end up?
Marc “Or it wasn’t him who was the brains behind the good deals.” Well he must have had a good network previously to point him in the direction of these lesser known youngsters that became top players and may still have that network. All I am saying is that first summer wasn’t really the right criteria or circumstance to fully judge him as a rebuild of sorts was required and a youngster here or there for which he was primarily known for previously wasn’t compatible with what was required that summer. I wasn’t into the Mislintat hype as some were… Read more »
I told Pedro from the get-go that the secret of Dortmund’s success was the long staying sporting director Michael Zorc. Zorc is the very definition of BVB; played all his 17 years of football there and retires in 1998 to become sporting director.It was Zorc that deserved credit for the Dortmund not Mislintat Even when Mislintat left, Dortmund continued to make excellent finds ; buy low and sell only when they have to for crazy profit. It’s like crediting the scrub nurse for the success of a complicated surgery. The nurse deserves commendation as part of the team but if… Read more »
Dissenter
Stop lying you’re only claiming that because I said earlier that someone said we should’ve gone for Zorc.
You were too busy making your “Trump for President” and “I love the Donald” banners to know the inner workings of Dortmund.
Marc
Good rebuttal, made me laugh.
Really Pedro will bear me witness if all the police tear gas hasn’t obliterated his memory.
You just need to look at the work Mislintat is doing at his new club and the pigs ears that Raul is doing with Arsenal recruitment to know that the wrong one is still in position at Arsenal. Dortmund transfer model has slightly changed since Mislintat left. They still buy low and sell high, but they have started to buy players at a later stage of their development. They are now paying more for their unproven/gamble players even taking into account the players inflation. Håland is a case in point. The question is is it just a temporary blip or… Read more »
You just need to look at the work Mislintat is doing at his new club and the pigs ears that Raul is doing with Arsenal
Forgetting the pigs ear that Raul is doing what exactly is Sven doing at Stuttgart?
Dissenter, Arsenal were never getting Zorc. We should have hired Ralph Rangnick.
That would have been the deal to make.
Still not quite sure why people are so obsessed with Sven. We have a new regime in place and they are a disgrace.
Pedro
Didn’t we interview Zorc?
I recall you wrote about him a lot back them.
Sean Dyche for president!!
CG knows
Pedro you’re right this regime is a disgrace. As was the previous one.
And there’s a common denominator for both regimes during this dramatic decline…
Stanley.
Kroenke out!
Stan oversaw Wengers miserable decline from demigod to loser. Now he’s overseeing Raul and chums fuck things up in a different way.
Leadership starts at the top. When the owner doesn’t care, the only way senior management do their work well and properly is if they are the kind of people who will hold themselves accountable. Not many people working in multi million pound jobs without oversight would take initiative to increase their own accountability and herein lies the result.
The looting enables the enraged and depraved to take hold of consumer goods with the ease the oppresser does by using his purse. The looter does not even need what he takes, he wants the experience of taking. Disenfranchised from society and sensing this society cherishes property above people, he is shocking it by abusing property rights. There are elements of emotional soothing in the act.
Im telling you for free!
Psychobabble- Language using a lot of words and expressions taken from psychology and or psychotherapy without particular accuracy or relevance.
This one is on the house, too.
The moderate who is devoted to “order” than to justice: who prefers a negative peace, which is abscence of tension to a positive peace which is prescence of justice. MLK
Would rather Don/un na nai than you mr house,
take that to the bank