FOOTBALL IS BACK, but first game is a downer

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FOOTBALL IS BACK PRAISE THE LORD SPEAK TO ME!

What a fucking day, lads, ladies, geezers.

Sir Chips is out at Arsenal. He’s resigned his Chairmanship. According to Tim Payton, he was #WengerOut early, and also first to recognise that Unai Emery was a chancer. Didn’t make a difference, because his role was ceremonial. Now he’s gone. Arsenal is Raul’s, because Josh isn’t about.

Sad times. Would be nice if someone was at the club keeping an eye on how things are run. Great clubs have clear structures. They have CEOs that hold people accountable. Where is that at Arsenal? We’re signing 34-year-olds, spending £20m on them, then losing them on frees? Who is asking questions about that?

Moving on.

Arsenal is kickstarting the new season against Manchester City away. It’s our punishment for basically locking down the game after Arteta cunningly took one for the team so he could whip the players into shape.

I am a little scared about that match, but hey, who wouldn’t be scared of a fully fit Pep G side? At least we’ll be fully fit and raring to go.

Footyheadlines have leaked the second kit.

Some are saying this looks like raspberry icecream. Some others, are saying it looks lightly blood-soaked. I thought it looked like a training kit. I shan’t bag on it until I see how it looks on a player, but it’s a bit training kittish? That said, don’t be the type that complains we’re doing untraditional things with our kits. That’s design baby. You don’t get to iconic if you never move things forward. The bruised banana was not traditional. The gold kit was a curveball. The hooped socks were pure genius. I like it when we take a chance… unless it’s a navy blue kit. They are always so fucking boring.

Anyway, still grateful every day about having Adidas as our maker.

This is the home shirt.

Again, a bit of a risk with the pattern and the deeper red, but not bad.

The patterns are inspired by this kit from the early 90s. This is one of the first shirts I was bought that I remember. I think I had the green keeper jersey as well.

I climbed a damson tree wearing it and was introduced to ‘bobbling’, that things that happen when nylon pulls. I was utterly devastated. Since then, I have never climbed a tree and I actively cheer rainforest destruction. That was a joke, Karen.

Finally, keep an eye on this Akanji story. It has legs.

Right, see you in the comments. Tell me what you think about the kits or how excited you are to have football back?

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  1. Dissenter

    Pedro
    Why is the first game a downer since Arteta is “world class”?

    I think you’re set to resume your deliberate practice of carefully setting the bar for the manager.

  2. Upstate Gooner

    NJ Gooner
    “Just missed it. Arrgh!!!!!!!!!”

    LOL. No, you missed it by 11 minutes. That’s not “just”. I was here at 4:41pm but it was too little too late by then.

  3. NJ Gooner

    Pedro,

    Look on the bright side: maybe Man City’s timing will be off after the break. It really is like a first pre-season game. Much more at stake but in odd surroundings (no crowd) and without mid-season sharpness. Ever the voice of optimism, perhaps it’s the best time to play them.

    I’m not keen on the Jackson Pollock away kit, although the cubist home one is quite interesting depending on the depth perception.

  4. NJ Gooner

    Depends on your metric, Upstate.

    Be fair, does it matter if you come fifth and miss out on the champions league by a point or ten points?

  5. Dissenter

    That second jersey looks like a bitched tie and dye t-shirt project for primary school kids.
    Adidas needs to work hard or invite fans to help with designing.

  6. Upstate Gooner

    I share the sentiments about the kits, fugly is the only word (or is it two words?) I can think of.
    Does Torreira have a tattoo of himself on his left ankle?

  7. Marc

    Surely if Arteta is half the coach we’ve been told having a bit of a pre season and having the inside track on City, as well as City of course now missing an Elite coach it should be a straight forward 3 points – especially as City have nothing to play for now. The remaining matches for them must feel like a major ball ache.

  8. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    China has to be the worse cunts in the world…
    First the man madebvirus to disrupt and wobble USA … now breaking the hk treaty.

    Cunts.

  9. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Marc

    Just feel that they are trying to hoodwink the world…
    Plus the hk shit..

    Nasty country and people

  10. Marc

    RSPC

    I reckon they’re thinking as the world is pissed off at us anyway how bad can it get, might as well do a load of bad shit.

  11. China1

    Easy on blaming 1.4 billion people for the actions of a small handful of people at the top. ‘Nasty people’ isn’t reasonable. There’s more diversity within China than all of Europe (by far), so labeling the Chinese people as a whole is quite pointless

  12. alexanderhenry

    Pedro

    ‘Great clubs have clear structures. They have CEOs that hold people accountable. Where is that at Arsenal?’

    Well said.
    It’s all about ambition and expectation. Ownership dictates this.
    KSE’s record over all their franchises is the sporting equivalent of a steaming turd of underachievement.

  13. China1

    On a separate note, I’m awaiting my results from my corona virus test I took yesterday

    Expecting it to be all clear as seems to be a stomach virus I have, but had to do one because I had half the symptoms on Wednesday evening.

    Something very reassuring for people who think that the virus is still rampant in China and that it’s just not being reported – in the testing clinic (the only one in my area with a population of a 500k) I only saw 2 other people come in for tests during the hour I was there. The staff looked relaxed and frankly bored with very little to do. You’d expect it to be a different case of secretly you had loads of people still suffering with the virus

  14. China1

    I’m not really sad to see chips go tbh

    He didn’t do anything useful for decades. Who cares that he was wenger out? He spent most of wengers worst years getting wheeled out to back wenger publicly with empty sound bites. In the last 20 years he might as well have been a potted plant for all he’s contributed to the club

  15. Overmars

    I’m glad Keswick has gone, he was so out of touch with fan base, just look at the AGM meetings.

    Who knows if he will be replaced, but I’d love to see a proper Arsenal man come in as Chairman.

  16. China1

    I think it’s right that deeney doesn’t return to football yet considering his kids respiratory weakness. But he also should accept that based on statistical probability the huge majority of players won’t be at high risk, the number of cases is now falling off a cliff. It’s increasingly safe to play every day

    You can’t expect the league to stop u til there are 0 cases left in the country. He’s very welcome to have his own concerns and right to, but he should stop projecting concerns that he has for his kid into the entire league. Stay home and move on already. We’re not going to have players and their families dropping like flies when we start again

  17. China1

    Also now deeney is moaning that nobody is being screened for heart problems. Look besides the fact players tend to be some of the healthiest humans on the planet nothing is stopping them with their millions and private health insurance from paying for some kind of heart scan/check privately

  18. Guns of SF

    Everyone is high on partey but what about docoure? He might be a cheaper option if it comes down to it

    Pace and power and height… maybe a poor mans vieira

  19. jwl

    Why is it a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Somebody’s making a penny.

  20. jwl

    I went down to the 24-hour grocery. When I got there, the guy was locking the front door. I said, ‘Hey, the sign says you’re open 24 hours’. He said, ‘Yes, but not in a row’.

  21. jwl

    It does looks raspberry icecream but I think it looks cool, I like these one off shirts for a season. I agree that we need to see it on players in a match first but it is promising, I like the design/concept, maybe a bit more red would be better?

  22. Wasi

    Finally we are getting linked to one of the few free transfers ive been banging the drum about.
    Adil Aochiche is a talent with Loads of potential.
    He’s probably the best PSG graduate along with Kuoassi to come out of their prestigious academy for a few years. Watched him in the last u18 ( was it u17) WC last summer and he dominated games.
    The game mostly progressed through him for a very talented France team. I think he also scored some goals.
    Anyways this is a player that I think we have to get given we are adapting the Dortmund + model.

  23. Jamie

    The blood spatter top is bizarre, but it’s going to be another scorcher today so I don’t care. Starting on the mimosas early.

  24. Marc

    “Also now deeney is moaning that nobody is being screened for heart problems. Look besides the fact players tend to be some of the healthiest humans on the planet nothing is stopping them with their millions and private health insurance from paying for some kind of heart scan/check privately”

    100% agree – if the little darling is so concerned about the big bad world he can retire, give up his lucrative contract and never leave the house again.

  25. Marc

    “I only saw 2 other people come in for tests during the hour I was there.”

    Fucking hell how long does it take to do the test?

  26. Graham62

    Sorry but the kit designs are awful.

    A group of ten year olds could do better.

    It makes you wonder the influence anyone from the club had when it came to approving these.

    Looks like splattered blood and as for the deeper red, not for me.

    I suppose the experts from Adidas like it, so that’s all that matters.

    Oh well, far more important things to worry about.

  27. Un na naai

    I quite like the home kit but the away kit is a disaster

    I always thought that our home kits are better with some navy trim. They always look classier

    Like the 99 and 02 kits

  28. Emiratesstroller

    Arsenal as a club and team are clearly in transition. Also the pandemic has also impacted severely on the club’s finances, but no more I would venture to suggest than most other clubs in EPL and elsewhere.

    Okay Manchester City and maybe Manchester United have deeper pockets than ourselves, but that is about it.

    What has changed is that ALL clubs now need to be realistic and work within their financial means.

    Arsenal’s major problem over the past 2 years has been a grossly inflated wage bill and a large number of underperforming players on their books.

    I think that situation was blindingly obvious long before CV appeared on the horizon and last summer we started the process of offloading a lot of the deadwood. Eleven first team/squad players were offloaded.

    My guess is that a similar exercise will be undertaken this summer albeit maybe not quite on the same scale.

    The club’s leadership made it crystal clear last year what the primary objectives were namely to cut the wage bill and also to recruit into the squad
    young players.

    I think that they are achieving both objectives. We have already got the second youngest squad in top 10 of EPL. Also the wages of new arrivals is on the whole lower than most of the players that have been replaced.

    If I review the transfers made last summer and factoring in injuries and allowing time to adapt to EPL I think that Arsenal did okay in the market.

    The only player who was out of sync with the policy was Luiz. Frankly I never
    understood that decision and indeed his performance level in first half of season failed to rectify the abject weakness in our defence.

    Arsenal do need to recruit some new players this summer. I suspect that our
    budget will be cut although I don’t think that the outcome will be as abject as
    some posters seem to believe.

    My guess is that the club will buy one or two “strategic” players albeit at lower
    transfer fees than would have been paid in the past.

    They will also add additional “squad” players by promoting from U23s, bosmans and loans as they did last summer.

    We know already two positions where this has been done already. Macey the
    third string gk will depart at end of contract and be replaced by one of the other players in U23s i.e. IlIev or Hein. Soares will be signed on a Bosman as
    understudy for Bellerin at RB.

    Mari will be joining squad permanently and Saliba is returning from loan so
    there is scope to offload at least three CBs

    If Saka is moved upfield to LW then we will need a new second LB to replace Kolasinac. The main issues with him are that he lacks defensive solidity and
    is on a ridiculous wage for a “squad” player.

    Ceballos is also leaving club at end of loan so there is certainly at least one place in MF to fill and if Maitland-Niles or Torreira leaves it could be two.

    The only other decision which may need to be taken is what the club will do
    if either Aubameyang or Lacazette leave.

    So I do think that the club’s medium to long term pathway is fairly clear even if it does not satisfy short term expectations of some of the club’s supporters.

  29. Marc

    FA Cup going to be finished – good news the more things that push us out of the rut that lock down has caused the better.

    We desperately need people to get back into the rhythm of normal life as quickly as possible as the lock down is rolled back. We need businesses to get enough confidence back to restart hiring people otherwise the effects will drag on for over a decade and we run the risk of getting stuck in a vicious circle.

  30. andy1886

    My favourite kit of recent times (this millennium) is probably the 2004/05 with the yellow detailing.

    As for the away kit it’s certainly ‘interesting’……

  31. Marc

    Emirates

    I agree – for all of the anti Sanllehi rhetoric the club had been making forward steps especially since Gazidis left – it may not be as quickly as we’d like or with the single wave of a magic wand as some seem to expect but we are getting things back as they should be.

    An FA cup and CL place will certainly be a massive help.

  32. CG

    ES

    Stop kidding yourself.

    You are speaking like the KSE PR officer.

    Just look at those appalling kits?
    They could not give a monkeys if we continue to be a laughing stock,

    And they have no intention of replacing SCK as chairman to scrutinise them or their incompetent executive team.

    This ain’t Arsenal anymore.
    Its Kroenkes Arsenal. And its a hideous version.

    We are going to hell in a handcart with these cowboys in charge,

    They have teams called, Nuggets, Rams , Rapids and Avalanches.

    You want that- Arsenal to be dumbed down that level?

    The only time , we will get back to the summit- the day they clear off.

  33. andy1886

    Stroller, the reason we’re in a less healthy position than most is that we rely more heavily than most on gate receipts. We’ll lose £90m+ if 2020/21 is played behind closed doors. Then there is the CL wage bill being played to a mid-table squad.

  34. Emiratesstroller

    Marc

    I agree with your last sentence, but realistically CL is beyond our reach this season. We have yet to play Man City, Liverpool, Leicester and Spurs all of which will be difficult games.

    The priority now is to get the team playing well and be reasonably competitive
    rather than talking about results.

  35. Marc

    andy

    Obviously you’re correct about the reliance on gate receipts but I don’t think we’re looking at the whole of 20/21 being played behind closed doors.

    The big question is when, how and how many when they allow fans back into stadiums.

  36. Marc

    Emirates

    Nah –

    City – We’re about to see that Arteta was the real brains behind their success – Pedro said so.

    Liverpool – Will have won the league by then and will have switched off.

    Leicester – Roger’s is overrated.

    Spud’s – Our first win at the toilet seat is on it’s way.

  37. Emiratesstroller

    andy 1886

    You are wrong.

    All the clubs are in the same boat as regards ticketing.

    Our commercial sponsorship revenue is amongst the largest following contract renewal of Emirates and new contracts with Adidas and Rwanda.

    Yes we earn less than others in Europe, but remember Liverpool will not
    win CL this season and I doubt that any other EPL Club will do so either.

    Spurs debt is massive and they have yet to secure stadium naming rights. Also
    they are unlikely also to qualify for CL.

    Man City will know their fate in next two weeks and for all the rhetoric I would
    not be certain that Chelsea will have a transfer budget. Abramovich is no longer living in England and it remains to be see whether he will spend money
    on club.

    As I posted the priority is to reduce our wage bill and I am pretty sure that will
    be achieved.

  38. CG

    ES

    “””””The priority now is to get the team playing well and be reasonably competitive rather than talking about results.”””””

    Off course- lets ignore them.
    And whilst we are at it.

    Lets ignore the ridiculous kits and all its slogans,
    Lets ignore the Luiz Fiasco,
    Lets ignore we are the only club that have asked for annual wage cuts
    Lets ignore the fact we are 9th at out of Europe

    Lets now, ignore the bloody results!

    Silent Stan must love Arsenal supporters like you,

    Go and do some yoga with Wally!

  39. alex cutter

    “Look besides the fact players tend to be some of the healthiest humans on the planet nothing is stopping them with their millions and private health insurance from paying for some kind of heart scan/check privately”

    Look besides the fact the owners tend to be some of the wealthiest humans on the planet nothing is stopping them with their billions from paying for any medical tests that players feel are necessary before being put at risk for playing a game.

    Anyone think thinking that any player could be “forced” to play in a situation where it’s not safe enough for a crowd to attend is delusional. Anyone questioning the players who don’t trust ownership/government’s assessment of their safety while playing is a cunt.

    “It’s increasingly safe to play every day…”

    Fuck off

  40. G8

    To be fair to Deeney he is fat and has a medical condition called “cojones deficiency syndrome ”
    He is a high risk!

  41. Marc

    “Spurs debt is massive and they have yet to secure stadium naming rights. ”

    This has come at the worst possible moment for the Spud’s and ManU are most likely in a similar position with the Chevrolet deal ending soon. All the bluster about Levy holding out for a mega deal when from what I was hearing no one would go anywhere near what he was asking now means he won’t be able to get what was on offer before.

    This is going to be tough and affect all clubs, the clubs likely to be least affected will be the promoted clubs who will still see an increase in TV revenue even if it’s not what was expected.

  42. CG

    W

    “””””Let’s ignore CG – cretin”””””””

    CG never caused the Arsenal demise, decline and complete downfall.

    Fans ( eg. ES) who pay fortunes on season tickets, money ultimately that ends up in Stan’ s pockets now harping on about results not mattering- might have done though.

    And the Wally from N16 calls me a cretin.

    Dearie me!

    (And If results don’t matter ES- why on earth did we replace our Greatest ever manager then?)

  43. Marko

    I dunno why people reimagine certain types to suit their really obvious agenda against the likes of Raul. Sir Chips was absolutely useless beyond words at Arsenal and now we’re to believe that he wanted Wenger gone years ago and had doubts over Emery. Do me a favor he done fuck all and was more than happy to sit back and collect a paycheck he didn’t care about Arsenal.

    Also absolutely not worried about the Man City game in the slightest we’ve got a world class coach with a top 4 squad and he’s had more than enough time now to turn us into world beaters… apparently

  44. Marko

    As for the CEO spot if it’s purely ceremonial give it to Bob Wilson or Pat Rice or whoever the fuck as long as it’s not that useless cunt Wenger back. If it’s to be a more serious position going forward choose someone younger and hungry in the game or give it to Josh and hope he gets more hands on with the club

  45. Goonerkitt

    CG you’re a complete cockwomble, we had to replace our greatest manager (Herbert Chapman) because he was dead. That man was an innovator and he built a dynasty that only come to an end because pf the war. Wenger was forever in his shadow.

  46. Terraloon

    ES

    Think you are deluding yourself when you suggest that all EPL clubs are in the same boat when it comes to match day income.

    Putting Spurs to one side then just focus on the others in the supposed top 6. Then factor in that Season ticket holders at Arsenal will have been given credit for one less cup game brought forward from 18/19 and what 6 missing games in 2019/20

    So that’s around 1/3 of the annual match day income due to be repaid around £33 million whereas clubs like Chelsea’s will amount to 4 games or £10 million at most even then they unlike Arsenal played in the CL this season which probably added a million or so on top on top of the money they got from the EL last season. Or Man City’s 5 games so around £11 million.
    Arsenals reliance of gate receipts is far greater than any club, probably bar Spurs in the PL.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESFpbWZWAAAEi8T?format=jpg&name=large

  47. Emiratesstroller

    Some people who post on here need to stop selling Arsenal down the river.

    1. Yes the club was poorly managed in recent years, but despite this has made a
    profit in most seasons. So our financial track record is better than most particularly since we operated a self sustaining model.

    2. Despite all the so-called negatives about Kroenke he is now 100% owner of
    club. Since the takeover he has conducted the business correctly.

    3. Arsenal are paying their non playing staff in full when I spoke to the office
    last week. None are on furlough or have been made redundant.

    4. Arsenal had until Christmas the second highest bank balance of all clubs in
    EPL. So they have more fat than most other clubs.

    5. We are receiving £60 million from Adidas and additional £45 million from
    Emirates and Rwanda. Leaving aside the dodgy payments to Man City how many other clubs are currently receiving more?

    6. All clubs are going to suffer next season. None are going to be in particularly
    good shape. Let’s judge how our competitors handle the situation.

    7. My guess is that both Spurs and Liverpool will struggle financially more than Arsenal and it remains to be seen what will happen at Chelsea. I need to be convinced that Abramovich will dig in his pocket any more than Kroenke.

  48. Emiratesstroller

    Terraloon

    Do you think seriously that other clubs are not going to offer season ticket credits? As I said everyone is in the same boat.

    Just because Arsenal receive the second highest ticket receipts does not mean
    that other clubs are more or less dependent on that revenue stream.

    Stop listening to so-called experts from press and pig ignorant media pundits
    who do not understand the basics of finance.

  49. Marc

    Can people stop assuming all clubs have the same ST model as Arsenal – they do not.

    The Spud’s offer no cup credits so whilst no refund they haven’t had the revenue to start with.

    Liverpool have different grades of ST – just PL matches, with Cup matches / European matches etc.

    Last I heard ManU only charge for league matches on the initial payment but then automatically charge the CC / bank account for cup matches so again revenue they’ve never had.

    Arsenal currently owe ST holders 6 credits and whilst some people will want the money back now the club could look at offering a larger discount for those who defer off of future ST’s thus spreading the pain over a more manageable period.

  50. Marko

    Surprised that FA Cup football will return. It’s going to be a fucking headache to finish the season and leave enough time between starting the following season it doesn’t need those extra games.

  51. Marc

    Emirates

    “Stop listening to so-called experts from press and pig ignorant media pundits
    who do not understand the basics of finance.”

    Whilst true you missed a very important point – these guy’s love to bash Arsenal whether using facts or just making stuff up.

  52. Bob N16

    The good news is that we’re a massive club with a worldwide fan base with an owner that, if push comes to shove, as a multi billionaire would have no problem getting extra finance in.

    The bad news is that we have a load of players being paid large sums that they do not deserve. This, coupled with an approximately 25% loss of overall revenue from a lack of gate receipts from next season, means that we’ll have to borrow to make ends meet. Bournemouth, I believe, get around 85% of their income form TV money.

    Spurs are obviously in a worse situation than we are, so ‘every cloud…’

  53. Marko

    To be fair CG you’re one to talk you’ve been both Wenger’s mouthpiece and gaping arsehole on here for months. One wonders how you’re able to breathe given the amount of shit you lap up from the old fart.

  54. Marko

    It’s only 3 rounds of fixtures and half the clubs will only play one of.

    Yeah still unnecessary. Point being that there’s going to be a lot of games played over a short period of time and to add more games to it when you don’t need to is a mistake I think

  55. Bob N16

    Goonerkit…’Cockwomble’ …not sure what it means but I think I get the gist.

    Probably being a bit generous when describing CG though!

  56. Marko

    Spurs will be massively effected by everything. Brand new stadium not being used empty stadium when football resumes you hate to see it.

    Like I said before one of the few people who during the pandemic that made out very well has been Stan so we should be ok. That’s not to say that there’ll be a war chest or nothing just that certain things will be covered if needs be.

  57. Emiratesstroller

    Bob N16

    Precisely.

    As I posted the priority at Arsenal is to reduce wage bill in summer and my guess is that will happen.

    Kroenke may not be an expert on football but I am pretty sure that he is pretty
    clued up on business unlike some of those who keep on selling us down the
    river.

    Arsenal’s sponsorship packages are currently the fourth largest in EPL ahead
    of Spurs and Liverpool.

  58. GunnerDNA

    “I am a little scared about that match”

    Really?

    How can arsenal fans be scared when Arsenal have a world class coach who does the best ZOOM training?

  59. Terraloon

    ES

    You said all clubs were in the same boat regarding ticketing.

    Now I guess that can be taken many many ways but the impact of being in the same boat differs be it in % term of total income or quantum. Irrespective in hard cash terms it’s going to impact Arsenal mighty hard and far harder than most clubs. The cash numbers speak for themselves.

    As for your points 1-7

    1. That’s probably correct.
    2. We really haven’t got a clue what’s been going on in terms of the operating year 2019/20.
    3. Correct but Arsenal are the only club that have been able to convince the players to take an actual wage cut.
    4. You have no idea on this one. Long gone are the days when even Arsenal produced a snap shot of the half year trading.
    5. It’s yet to be seen just how much extra the big two deals bring in. The Emirates/ visit Rwanda certainly be bringing in an extra £45 million . If for no other reason the bigger of the two deals is in its second year
    6. Fair point
    7.Spurs are without doubt in the do do. Liverpool probably will be more than ok. As for Chelsea RA may or may not stop putting cash in but I doubt he will stop, but their transfer ban and net transfer income in the summer of 2019/20 plus the fact that clubs already are committed to signing players they currently have on loan from them puts them in an interesting position

  60. Marko

    One thing that I’m hoping to see come from this period is arsenal finally addressing this bloated wage that they have. It’s been happening a little bit the last couple years but the hope is not that they finally address massive earners who underperform and don’t offer value for money. I’m saying finally bin Ozil and the likes and don’t offer any new contracts to the likes of Luiz and Sokratis. Only contract extensions I’d consider right now is Aubameyang (to a point) and Saka.

  61. CG

    ES (KSE mouthpiece)

    “”””Kroenke may not be an expert on football but I am pretty sure that he is pretty
    clued up on business unlike some of those who keep on selling us down the
    river.”””””

    Just Keep paying into his coffers ES.
    How KSE must love fools like you.

    ka-ching!

  62. Marc

    Marko

    Nothing will happen with Ozil – he’ll run his contract down and leave next summer on a free.

    I’d be thrilled if we could do something else but it just ain’t gonna happen.

  63. andy1886

    “Just because Arsenal receive the second highest ticket receipts does not mean
    that other clubs are more or less dependent on that revenue stream.”

    Yes it does, only Spurs have a greater proportion of their revenue from gate receipts than Arsenal. Our commercial performance has been terrible, inferior by some margin to United, Liverpool, City, Spurs and Chelsea.

    Even in a depressed transfer market our closest competitors have saleable assets whereas we have a number of highly paid under-performing dead weights who we will struggle to offload.

    You can forget any significant transfer business this summer.

  64. Graham62

    Goonerkit

    “CG your a complete cockwomble, we had to replace our greatest ever manager( Herbert Chapman) because he was dead”

    Classic.

    🤪🍺

  65. Marko

    Nothing will happen with Ozil – he’ll run his contract down and leave next summer on a free.

    With a year left unfortunately that is likely. It wouldn’t have been the case had they done what I said a year or two ago or stuck with what Emery had done initially which is to say bin him completely from the match day squad and first team training and let it be known that he won’t play again and he’ll have to leave if he wants to play football again. Massive shame that Mikel came in and made him a focal point in the team and added to his ego it’ll be impossible now to get rid of him. Mikel’s biggest blunder since joining? Possibly though I can’t help but think that 27 million we missed out on for Xhaka in January from Hertha was an even bigger fuck up not to mention how well Bruno Guimaraes done since joining Lyon.

  66. CG

    How ES – can you defend the KSE regime?

    10 years of utter decay at the club.

    (Even Spurs have overtaken us on the revenues tables.Virtually impossible a few seasons back)

    How can he defend the fact that players like Martinelli and Nelson are taking pay cuts- which indirectly is funding their billionaire entertainments empire.

    Total and deluded fool.

  67. Wasi

    Marc

    Definitely the club is moving forward since Gazidis left but some will do and say anything to prove otherwise.

  68. Marko

    How can he defend the fact that players like Martinelli and Nelson are taking pay cuts- which indirectly is funding their billionaire entertainments empire.

    Facts the man’s about facts

  69. Wasi

    ‘Yes it does, only Spurs have a greater proportion of their revenue from gate receipts than Arsenal. Our commercial performance has been terrible, inferior by some margin to United, Liverpool, City, Spurs and Chelsea.’

    This I believe is due to the continuous mismanagement of the club for the last 10-15 years. Especially in the Gazidis era where he just let every good player run down their contracts
    ( Ozil , Alexis , Ramsey, Wilshere , Persie , etc)
    Selling just these 4-5 players with at least 2 yrs left on their contract could have got us a good 130-150 , maybe more.
    Our sales in the transfer market have been pathetic, probably the worst in Europe.

  70. Bob N16

    Marko, I think you could argue that Ozil on a £350,000 a week contract, has had all the cards from the moment he signed the extension. Now with a year left, without Covid, there may have been a way of AFC paying a proportion of his £18m to see the back of him this summer, but that’s so unlikely now.

    Much as I would have been delighted to see the back of Xhaka in the January window, I’m not sure Arteta, who only arrived at the back end of December, deserves to take the blame for a missed opportunity.

  71. Wasi

    According to goal Adil Aochiche will complete s free trasnfer to St Etienne.
    One opportunity missed.

  72. Emiratesstroller

    Okay instead of listening to all the so-called experts expressing their opinions
    about the worth of clubs and how they are performing I suggest that everyone
    who posts on here read the balance sheets freely available and published at
    companies house on all the clubs in EPL.

    No-one disputes that Arsenal have underperformed in recent years when it
    comes to “trading”., but what is far more relevant is the net worth of the business factoring in assets and liabilities.

    Manchester City has now a massive “net worth” far exceeding Manchester
    United and Arsenal.

    The difference between Manchester United and Arsenal is surprisingly quite
    small after deduction of debt.

    Spurs and Chelsea have of course large fixed assets, but they have also got
    massive liabilities as well. In the case of Spurs the financing cost of the stadium with 3% interest charges. Chelsea have creditors [Abromovich] of
    more than a Billion! If he decides to sell up that debt will have to be repaid.

    What the accounts of all football clubs don’t of course show are the value of
    players. That is because footballers are not worth a dime unless you sell them.

    So I suspect that a lot of club valuations published in press are based on theoretical valuations of players on books, and in this respect Arsenal are not
    particularly successful.

    However, if you need to borrow money to finance a business a bank is looking
    at the balance sheet and net worth and not the imaginary figures published by
    press.

  73. Emiratesstroller

    No British Bank would lend a football club money to buy players unless it is
    secured by fixed assets.

    That is in direct contrast to what seems to have been going on in Spain with
    both Real Madrid and Barcelona.

  74. Aussie Gooner

    So Arsenal are terminating the contracts of our youth scouting network; 10 staff are being laid off.

    ” A source told Mirror Sport: “These guys are among the best youth scouts in the country, have brought through the best kids and Arsenal have a reputation as one of the best clubs in the country for youth development.

    “This is one of the biggest clubs in the world making these sort of cutbacks but football is like a village and every other club will now know they are available.”

  75. Marc

    Aussie

    That’s the exact type of thing Emirates is talking about – Arsenal are making scouts redundant because they are short of money but every other club in the PL has loads of cash to employ them.

  76. Aussie Gooner

    The second kit looks like someone was attacked by a lion! On the other hand it could just be considered cool! It may go either way with this one.

  77. Marko

    I’m not sure Arteta, who only arrived at the back end of December, deserves to take the blame for a missed opportunity

    100% his fault he actively looked at getting Xhaka back into the team and to stay until the end of the season. It was a major fuck up even went as far as saying that he rated him and looked into his signing at City. Won’t be able to sell him this summer opportunity is gone

  78. Marko

    These guys are among the best youth scouts in the country, have brought through the best kids and Arsenal have a reputation as one of the best clubs in the country for youth development.

    Not sure I’d agree with that statement pretty sure Southampton, City, Chelsea and Everton would disagree.

  79. Emiratesstroller

    Aussie Gooner

    Everyone on the planet knows that Arsenal have got a grossly bloated football
    staff so laying off 10 youth scouts in not altogether surprising.

    Frankly when you look at the staffing do you actually need half of them? We
    have 2 goalkeeper coaches for 3 players!!! Do we need that number?

  80. Terraloon

    ES

    A set of accounts rarely reflects the up to date position of a business .

    Players values are reflected in accounts each year that is players who were subject to a transfer fee and have an amortised value.

    I would suggest that the likes of City’s and indeed Chelsea’s accounts really can’t be read in the same way as the other clubs you mention.

    For instance City’s owners have converted the majority of loans into equity so that has massively increased the share capital.
    As for Chelsea theirs is a far more complex hierarchy of companies where like City equity has been increased but unlike City the funds for the increased equity has come from a holding company. The long and short of it is if he ever sold the £1 billion would be repaid by the holding company and financed from the sale of shares. By doing it this way it reduces any tax liability

  81. Pedro

    Emirates, it’s going to be interesting to see how Barca navigate their debt this summer. The way they’re run has pushed them into making all sorts of short term bets that will now test them.

    Football is going to be broken for a while, I have no idea how clubs are going to make up the lost revenue from stadium fans.

  82. Marc

    “so laying off 10 youth scouts in not altogether surprising.”

    I’d also like to see confirmation of exactly who’s being laid off and what their precise role was.

    I mean after all it’s not as if the media would take a story and exaggerate the implications.

  83. Marc

    Pedro

    ” I have no idea how clubs are going to make up the lost revenue from stadium fans.”

    Weren’t you talking up a TV season ticket showing all matches a couple of weeks ago?

  84. Pedro

    Marc, I personally was talking them up, doesn’t seem like the Premier League has moved on it… unless I’ve missed something with the restart?

  85. Marc

    Pedro

    I believe that for the remainder of this season all matches will be shown free to air – how that works with the matches Sky and BT already had I really don’t know.

    Can’t see them doing that for say half of next season, maybe longer.

  86. Wasi

    We are probably going to see Barca sell a lot of their players this that too for cheap.
    Then go back to their old self of using their state of the art academy to fill out the squad.
    Honestly the way Bartomeu has acted in the last few years has been quite astonishing.
    Dembele was just pure bad luck but 120 mil on Griezmann.
    140 mil on Coutinho.
    Delayed decision on Valverde and then a hasty one with Setien.
    There have been some terrible decisions made by the Barca board and in contrast Real have gathered some real good young Footballers . They can really dominate La liga this decade if Barca dont sort this mess quick.( I.e before Messi cant carry them anymore)

  87. Wasi

    George Lewis is apparently confirmed by his previous club.
    He is a Rwandan so maybe its just a deal that is done to keep the sponsors happy given his low profile and that he was released by his last club.

  88. Wasi

    Marc

    Definitely.
    But when Umtiti is reportedly on the market for 30 mil and Dembele for 40-45 there will be some clubs who will snap up the bargains.
    Imo the players might go for even less. The likes of Rakitic , Alena , etc might go for 5-10 given their status and their current values.

  89. Emiratesstroller

    Pedro

    No club is going to make up the loss of attendance revenues. The idea that
    Arsenal are going to be more affected is a myth.

    Arsenal’s major problem is its wage bill particularly on the football side and as I have suggested that will I am sure be reduced. The announcement of 10 youth scouts being made redundant is I suggest only the start of process.

    You live in United States so you will I am sure understand better than most of
    the posters on here the mentality of people who run businesses.

    Kroenke will I am sure look after his investment, but he will not damage it. So
    Arsenal may well come out of it in better shape.

  90. JAMES WOOD

    Yes supporters we be much more selective what games they go to watch
    finance will dictate that.
    And who wants to stand/sit next to someone with a big gob the virus will love that..
    Crowds will diminish and clubs will feel the pinch.?
    Only a vaccine will give confidence back.

  91. Marko

    I mean after all it’s not as if the media would take a story and exaggerate the implications.

    They already did by saying that we are one of the great developers of youth in the country. Best player that came through our youth system the last decade was Cesc signed from Barcelona barely spending anytime in the youths. Even now for all the talk of Emile Smith Rowe, Reiss Nelson, AMN, Willock and Zech Medley the only proper one to likely make it long term with us is Saka. Same for quite a number of the kids currently being talked about in the youths with the exception of Balogan. Anyway point being Arsenal FC trimming the fat off some youth scouts isn’t the end of the world in fact it should be seen as a start trim some off the board as well. In saying that it’ll look stupid if we’re going through all these cost cutting exercises and still maintain certain players in the squad.

  92. Marc

    Marko

    That was my point – exaggerate the performance of our youth system and then exaggerate the positions of those leaving.

  93. Aussie Gooner

    Arsenal’s scouting network has been decimated over the past few years. ‘Official’ scouts were paid a ‘retainer’ by the club to ensure loyalty. Scouts covered most of the world; I even met one here in Perth, Western Australia. Now there are a series of ‘generic’ scouts that find players and pass on the information to the highest bidder. How times have changed!

  94. china1

    Marc the corona virus test takes seconds but I also did a blood test and CT scan. The longest part was waiting for the initial CT scan results

    Test unsurprisingly came back negative thankfully

  95. Marc

    It’s also possible that youth scouts being let go is because after BREXIT we’ll be limited on which countries we can bring young players in from.

  96. Sid

    Ioving the 2nd kit,
    Signing George lewis is good, guys who havent had things easy tend to work harder, another Martinelli
    Umtiti should cost no more than David Luiz, Dembele, no thank you, another Balotelli, wasted talent.

  97. CG

    ES

    “””””Kroenke will I am sure look after his investment, but he will not damage it”””””

    And that’s all what the club has become.
    Over 125 years of history.
    Blood sweat and tears to be an investment vehicle to preserve KSE wealth.

    Which is why it all the more scandalous that Arsenal are the only club to ask for 12.5% annual wage cuts….

    The irony of it all.
    Asking players ( some of them from very poor upbringings) taking pay cuts to protect and preserve KSE ‘ s investment vehicle.

    It makes the blood boil.

    Now we are hearing more of the lowest paid member of the club being laid off.

    The scouts. The ones that do the hard yards.The ones that might find the next Tony Adams or Charlie George.

    But never mind.
    Kia can do our scouting from now on.

  98. Marko

    The irony of it all.
    Asking players ( some of them from very poor upbringings) taking pay cuts to protect and preserve KSE ‘ s investment vehicle.It makes the blood boil.

    They’re millionaires but sure makes the blood boil.

  99. china1

    I sorely miss the invincibles yellow strip which was SEXY AS FUCK. Loved the red currant kit as well and the yellow away that season

    But part of me doesn’t want arsenal to return to these kits until we have an awesome team. I’ve no interest in seeing such beautiful kits get defaced by overpaid dross. Give me average kits until we’re quality again and then boom with the sexy ones

    But really this white one is offensively bad

  100. Terraloon

    ES

    I don’t think anyone is suggesting that clubs won’t be impacted but the numbers in terms of a%of overall revenue and the fact that on top of missed PL games that Arsenal will have to repay for not playing the required number of cup games is unique

  101. china1

    The only redeeming thing about the white one is you could put it on, behead the wiener who designed it then walk away without so much as a suspicious glance at your blood soaked shirt