Premier League looks at late June return (excited)

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I am on a time crunch this morning, but I have to bang this out, we need to get back to normality, and you need a daily helping of Arsenal goodness. The Premier League is coming back and I can’t wait. I wish the press would offer up more of a solutions-oriented approach to journo-ing than continuing to highlight individual moaners. Germany has led the way, they are the responsible adult in the room at all times. If they can do it, we can do it and if it all goes wrong: Blame Germany. Simple as that. That’s 21st-century leadership right there.

The Premier League isn’t fucking about. They’re sending secret police to training grounds to check clubs aren’t going past their allotted 75 minutes of training. I find rulings like that kind of absurd.

‘You can breathe, clatter, and sweat over each other… but keep it to 75 minutes, gotta play it safe’

Players are going to be heavily tested, with debate currently underway with the clubs over whether they should be in hotels for 7 or 14 days prior to games. There are still risks associated with this. Hotel workers aren’t often paid the best, they sometimes work other jobs, all it takes is one rogue person to bring in the virus and a whole club is wiped out.

Still, I think we’re at the point now where we’re going to have to work with this. There’s no such thing as ‘totally safe’ and the continuation of the game as we know it. I think that’s the stark reality society is facing up to. You can’t cripple the world forever… because we won’t have much to go back to if we take that stance… and the people that get hurt are not the rich ones. It’s the small independent businesses and jobs that make a city a city.

The bigger concern is that the Premier League clubs are being told that social distancing will remain in force for 6-12 months. I’d take that as 12 months and longer unless this summer rains UV hell on the virus, or people just take off their gloves and get brave with their health. Long and short… the Premier League is not going to have real fans in place for a long time.

This is both a curse and a gift. The curse, Arsenal are going to have to find £93m. The gift? The Premier League is going to have to get creative. I think Charles Allen; exArsenal marketing man, has it right.

Clubs have roughly 10 games left. Now is the chance to do something crazy. If it works, maybe it carries over into normal times?

I think the biggest innovation has to be digital season tickets. Every single game left this season should be available to purchase. How that’s delivered is a tougher question. The simplest mechanism and the easiest would be to give it to the BBC. Problem with that idea, though wonderful, is it has no future business value. You don’t learn anything from giving it away free. Sounds beastly, but clubs need to learn how to make up lost revenue, not how to get applause from The Guardian.

I’d explore working with someone that’s cash-rich, nimble, and plugged into the internet. Amazon is perfectly poised to pick up all the match and sell them back to the fans.

Covid-Pass Gold: Access to all the games that aren’t free to air for the rest of the season.

Club-Pass: Access to all games that aren’t being aired on the other channels by club.

Game-Pass: Slightly more premium model, where you can dip in and buy an individual game.

Make all of the above global. TIE IT IN WITH GAME DAY FOOD PACKAGES. Imagine getting Camden Hells, a salt beef bagel, and bag of slightly dodgy sweets wrapped in cheap sandwich bags. It’d be epic. Maybe some hotdog stall fragranced candles?

I also wonder whether it’s time for the Premier League to explore a better Game Center type model. America does this so well. You have Jeff and the gang… but with actual goals and moments. How are we in 2020 and we have to get our football rocks off by watching a Chris Kamara reaction on a Saturday? It’s bollocks. The football isn’t exactly a spectacle without the fans, I’m not sure the Premier League is going to win over too many new ones during this period, so why not experiment with tried and true methods that help bring the casuals in?

Maybe clubs could completely lose their fucking minds and do something with Occulus. Imagine integrating Premier League football into VR? You could set cameras up in the stadium that allow fans to sit all over the stadium in virtual seats. I would do that. It’d definitely be more dignified than Pornhub VR.

Anyway, I have to go, but today, I am asking YOU a question… what is your football innovation?

xxx

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Graham62

Let’s all agree that the UK government fudged up, as they have in fact been doing for many years.

Graham62

Is Trump as thick as he comes across?

What were his school/ college grades.

Did he go to university?

It beggars belief that he can communicate so much crap on a daily basis.

Andy1886

The UK government’s claim that they went with the science is nonsense. They may have listened to the science but then took political decisions. But that’s what politicians do. I’m not a Boris fan but he isn’t my main point of annoyance. That would be the puppet scientists like Twitty who stood alongside him and nodded when he talked about ‘herd immunity’ and stand beside him now when the government deny that sending sick people back to care homes wasn’t a factor in spreading infection. These aren’t legitimate scientists anymore, they’re pathetic spineless lackeys prepared to sell their souls for… Read more »

Rich

Redtruth, flu is a seasonal illness,Covid19 doesn’t appear to be seasonal.

The only way this virus dies is through herd immunity, locking down just controls the rate of the spread, it doesn’t kill the disease.

We have a vaccine for the flu, but that doesn’t stop people dying of the flu .

They’ve never created a vaccine for a coronavirus, and even if they did? It may be a seasonal vaccine, are we seriously suggesting we lock up 67,000,000 every year until they’ve received their coronavirus jab?

Even the flu vaccine isn’t anywhere near 100% effective

Graham62

Watched the heated debate between Simon Jordan and Robbie Lyle( AFTV) on TalkSports again last night.

Great stuff.

Rich

Andy herd immunity is the only way viruses die. Locking people away just controls the rate of the spread, it doesn’t kill the virus. Covid19 is a new virus that has transmitted to humans, and we’ll likely never be completely free of. And for the 99.9% of the healthy population will be a relative minor illness. For over 80s and people with serious pre-existing conditions it will be fatal, for overweight people it seems to be dangerous. But only 36 now under 40s in England with no serious pre-existing conditions have died, out of 40,000,000 in that demographic It’s a… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

If you want more detailed information and proper comparisons of how different countries are actually performing in this pandemic you should look at “worldometer” website which publishes daily figures. No-one would suggest that the UK has performed particularly well during this outbreak. However, the stats suggest that the outbreak in most Western European Countries apart from Germany has not had significantly different outcomes. The chart covers not only number of cases, but the number of cases per million population and similar information in case of deaths. Information is also provided for testing. Interestingly Britain has produced more than double the… Read more »

Sid

Covid19 deaths are a sign of failed states

1. Poor healthcare systems (including poor child immunization)

2. Poor housing (council housing, housing projects are the new concentration camps. In the 3rd world people have escaped by moving to the countryside)

3. Poor nutrition( Big mac, doughnuts are not fit for human consumption)

Jamie

“herd immunity is the only way viruses die.”

This is completely false.

Emiratesstroller

Since yesterday’s latest updates here are the total number of tests conducted
in Germany, France and UK.

Germany 3,147,771 total 37,584 per million of population
France 1,384,633 total 21,218 per million of population
UK 2,772,552 total 40,866per million of population

So the UK has in fact overtaken Germany in the proportion of test conducted
factoring in size of population.

Ishola70

Rich “The sooner the virus spreads through the safer demographics, the sooner herd immunity builds, this is the way viruses have been wiped out throughout history, and covid19 can’t and won’t be any different” Arwa Mahdawi doesn’t agree with you. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/20/quarantine-fatigue-has-well-and-truly-set-in-and-that-could-spell-trouble She feels duty bound to sit on her arse until time immemorial waiting for a vaccine that will likely never materialise. And she has that guilt for the poor folk “who are risking their lives” for another reason to stay in “lock-down” The virus will play itself out. The populace will not play the virus out. As for those… Read more »

Sid

countries with universal BCG vaccination policies showed fewer cases and/or deaths

Rich

Jamie name me a virus that has been defeated throughout the history of mankind, that man has defeated without the virus running its course through the populous?

Some viruses are stronger than others, some die out sooner, some later….

I’ll give you a clue, the answer behind with a z and end with ero….

Rich

Ishola it’s the Guardian,….what did you expect?

Just lefty Tory bashing dribble, That’s designed to fit the narrative of their readers.

There’s no balance in our media, right across the spectrum

Gonsterous

The rule for players to pay their agent is a bit tricky, as it may lead to agents tricking players or getting them in debt to try to achieve a football career.
The rule could work for both sides if, an agent representing a player under the age gets paid by the club but once a player is over 20 or 21, then the players start paying the agents.

Rich

Emiratesstroller The reason Germany was out the blocks quicker was because of market forces. They had the industry, as did the South Koreans, we didn’t, the Germans showed us how to produce the tests, that’s why we were slower, putting the tests into production took far too long It’s the same with PPE, the lessons that need to be learnt from this will be based around strategic protectionism, which we’ll be able to implement much better outside the customs union. International supply lines are fine, and in most cases produce lower prices, which equals higher standards of living, but in… Read more »

Jamie

“Jamie name me a virus that has been defeated throughout the history of mankind, that man has defeated without the virus running its course through the populous?”

You made the claim. Name 3 viruses in the history of mankind that have been completely defeated through herd immunity.

Spanishdave

Well done Rich unfortunately people believe the ‘truth’ on twitter and Facebook. No virus in history has had so much debate or opinion, even scientist are arguing amongst themselves. The government are following the science when it suits then as the Ro number is less than 1 everywhere and they said they would lift lockdown. But they hav’nt. By the way some viruses have been defeated in history. The sweating disease in the medieval period and bubonic plague ie Black Death. Both came and went over a period of time, better sanitation ended them. Vets have been injecting pets and… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Rich I made precisely the same points in my earlier posts. Germany is the “powerhouse” in European production. Britain is a services orientated country which is heavily dependent on imports. If you look at my post at OO.14 I pointed out that I am prescribed orthopaedic socks by the NHS. These are manufactured in Germany and not UK. Interestingly the ordering system has now changed. In the past the NHS clinic sent instructions to my GP who issued a prescription to the Pharmacy and was then required to place order with manufacturer. The order was completed within one week and… Read more »

Graham62

Gonsterous

You hire an agent, you pay the agent.

Your agent represents you, you pay the agent for representing you.

As most agents tend to latch themselves onto players, because that’s what leeches tend to do, players must take responsibility for all the financial consequences.

Most agents are parasites and have milked the system for years. Hopefully we can now have some clarity in what agents can and can not do.

Clubs should not be held to ransom by these dubious characters.

Jamie

“By the way some viruses have been defeated in history. The sweating disease in the medieval period and bubonic plague ie Black Death. Both came and went over a period of time, better sanitation ended them.”

Over 500 bubonic plague deaths between 2010 and 2015. Still killing humans despite being ‘defeated’. Interesting take.

Sid

Improve healthcare, housing, nutrition
While waiting for vaccine

Graham62

ES

Not just the NHS.

Gonsterous

Graham

I think if a player pays an agent, very few players will risk paying someone for just a trial at a club, especially players from very poor countries.

The agents should be paid by the club until a player is 18. After that, the players should pay their agents.
But it’s never gonna happen so at the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter what we think.

CG

Graham “”””””Most agents are parasites and have milked the system for years.”””””””” Absolutely and well stated. Like all Belfast dogs- they should be licenced and microchipped at all times. And be summoned to the local police station within 24 hours if they have transgressed or shit on the pavement without clearing up the mess. Still no announcement of the annual table of what the English clubs have paid out to agents in the last 12 months. ( now delayed 6 weeks!) Lets have total transparency and lets see who has earned what and how much on these Pepe, Luiz, Tierney… Read more »

Jamie

“Jamie
Where? In countries where conditions are not sanitary. You’ve proved his point.”

You’ve missed the point. He said, erroneously, that the bubonic plague ‘had been defeated, came and went.’

It hasn’t. That’s the point. Welcome back. Try to keep your shit together and avoid talking politics.

Rich

We may never be completely free of Covid19 The way the body works is, you catch a new virus that’s been transmitted from animals to humans, you have no antibodies to protect yourself because it’s a new virus. After you catch the disease and you fall ill, providing you recover? Our immune systems will build antibodies to protect you against future infections during infection. Those antibodies once prevalent in a population, slow the rate of infection through the populace, the quicker this happens through the healthy and young, statistically you make the vulnerable safer, although without a vaccine you can… Read more »

Uwot?

On a football note!Been reading AM interested in a swap between Bell end & Partey? Yes please.But would have preferred Lacazette.

China1

If oxfords vaccine works they expect to be able vaccinate most of the British population by the end of the year

Football not having real fans until next summer seems incredibly unlikely

China1

We don’t need to be completely free of corona virus, we only need to understand it better (already happening), great it better (getting there) and have a vaccine (will happen likely in a handful of months)

The idea of us being endlessly dragged down by this omnipotent virus is incredibly unlikely. Whilst it’s not a flu, it will likely be no more of a concern than flu within 6 months as tracking, treatment, natural immunity, scientific understanding and vaccination continues to dramatically improve

Dissenter

Pedro
For the sake of dcency

Marc

Uwot

I’d take that deal – there’s still a serious question to be asked about how much pace has he lost after the ACL.

Jamie

“Jamie every virus throughout the history of mankind has been defeated through herd immunity, otherwise we wouldn’t be here, and that’s why healthy bodies build antibodies to protect us against the threat of extinction.”

List 3 viruses in the history of mankind which have been defeated through herd immunity. Should be easy, there are hundreds of thousands of viruses known to infect mammals.

Marc

Just a question to those who keep saying we’ve never developed a vaccine against a virus in the corona family before – how much time, money and other resources have been put into finding one?

I’d make a guess of not much.

Dissenter

Pedro
For the sake of decency, shut down all these covid-19 talk
Let’s go back to bashing Mesut Ozil and praising wonder-coach Arteta.
Now I have to live through another round of the Bundesliga yawn-league.

Graham62

Gonsterous ……..and there lies the problem. It’s all down to money. No money floating around, no agents. Simple. We need salary caps. Teenager players should not be on extortionate contracts. There should be a structured salary system for all players and when I say “structured”, I mean logical. Fans keep football going. Without it the product is shite, as we can now all see. It’s time we, the fans, took back control. Fans/supporters groups should now be drawing up their post pandemic rulings. For example, the AST should have far more clout in the running of our club for the… Read more »

Marc

Jamie

If human’s hadn’t adapted to deal with various viruses we would have died out as a species 200,000 odd years ago.

Also y pestis the bacteria that causes plague can be killed by antibiotics so firstly 500 deaths out of over 7 billion is not even a drop in the ocean, secondly a short course of tablets would’ve saved those people anyway.

Your taking all this to a ridiculous extreme.

Graham62

I love football and want it to thrive but when you see all the money floating around you have to question the integrity of it all. Ask yourself this, how the fudge can we allow community clubs like Bury to go under and the grassroots of the game to be grossly underfunded?

It’s frigging scandalous!

Marc

Un

Funny video!

Marc

Graham

I agree grass roots football is important but you have to be careful you don’t damaged the “game” by dragging the top end product down to protect the base.

Jamie

Marc –

Extreme is making absolute statements like ‘herd immunity is the only way to defeat a virus’ and then failing to back it up with a single shred of evidence.

Some folk like rhetoric, I prefer data.

Marc

Jamie

Before modern medicine how did populations survive viral outbreaks?

Valentin

I would not trust the number of test performed by the UK government. Germany, France and the rest of the world count testing as test done and received and traced to the person who has made the test. Also in some countries testing the same people multiple times is counted as one test, but others count each individual testing. Because the UK government got tied by the media by their initial irrelevant promise of 100,000 test per day, the UK government is counting all the testing kits sent as tested. Some have been sent to the wrong address and some… Read more »

Marc

Valentin

” Is there a place where that person can go to self isolate for 14 days?”

Yes – at home the rules are that all members of the household need to isolate for 14 days as there’s a high chance that they’ve already been exposed. Splitting up the household at this point would not solve the problem it’s more likely to aggravate it.

Valentin

Marc, “Just a question to those who keep saying we’ve never developed a vaccine against a virus in the corona family before – how much time, money and other resources have been put into finding one?I’d make a guess of not much.” Quite the contrary. A lot of money has been spent researching vaccine for Corona virus. However because a lot of them mutated quite quickly, we never have been able to have a generic vaccine. For example flu vaccine exist. It is just that seasonal flu is not the same strain, making the previous vaccine ineffective. Also Corona virus… Read more »

Sid

Mr New york New york wants is out with his baton and wants Pedro to swing it for him

Jamie

Marc –

Not sure if serious, or what your point is. The claim made was ‘herd immunity is the only way viruses die’.

If this statement is true, there should be a long list of ‘dead’ viruses to choose from as evidence in support of it. I asked for just 3.

Hint: the bubonic plague isn’t one of them.

Marc

Jamie

If a virus is extinct how do you know it existed?

Secondly just as a hint Bubonic Plague couldn’t be one because it’s not a virus it’s a bacterial infection – something completely different.

Valentin

Marc,

“Splitting up the household at this point would not solve the problem it’s more likely to aggravate it.”

Again a stupid move that just spread the disease. Self isolating at home with a confirmed case is just the surest way to contract it.

China had a much more logical approach. One confirmed positive test, then the entire household is tested. Those positive are quarantine, the others are put in the at risk group and keep under check/observation for any symptom.
Same in Germany.

Marc

Valentin

A lot of money has been spent researching a corona vaccine? What’s a lot of money?

At the moment you’ve got a huge amount of the world’s medical resources going into it – that was my point. The difference in scale is huge, of course that doesn’t mean they’ll find one but it makes it a hell of a lot more likely.

Marc

” Self isolating at home with a confirmed case is just the surest way to contract it.”

If it’s as contagious as is being claimed they’ve probably already been exposed to it.

Spanishdave

Hi Marc There was a virus called sweating disease in the 16 th c and it died out. People fled the cities where they could and the rich stayed on boats in the Thames estuary. Religious folk went to monasteries in the country and so did royalty. Every 30 years or so flu viruses break out as you know this time the WHO wanted to prove their prediction and the world panicked and overreacted. Getting out of the mindset will be a bigger problem than the virus as nobody wants to pull the trigger, so post viral economy is a… Read more »

Jamie

“If a virus is extinct how do you know it existed?”

Is this a genuine question? In case it isn’t, because we keep records. Even in the extreme case of an ‘eradication’, small samples are sometimes (but not always) kept in labs.

“Secondly just as a hint Bubonic Plague couldn’t be one because it’s not a virus it’s a bacterial infection – something completely different.”

I didn’t offer up the bubonic plague as an example of a ‘defeated virus’, someone else did. I said it wasn’t.

Jamie

In case it is*

China1

The entire developed world is investing in treatment and vaccine development for this virus. More than 80 are under development/already being tested as we speak Meanwhile regulatory barriers have been rolled back to fast track both treatment trials and vaccine progress Never before in the history of mankind has the entire globe been working in unison towards the same goals. Comparisons to vaccine development for largely irrelevant virus like the common cold are entirely imbalanced. If this corona virus was as irrelevant to human life as the common cold then we would be spending 0.00001% of the energy on that… Read more »

Rich

Jamie the reason we know the way we’ve defeated viruses is through herd immunity, is because mankind hasn’t been wiped out, and our immune systems have evolved over thousands of years to fight known infections If our bodies didn’t create antibodies to fight off infection, we’d all be dead, because something as simple the common cold would kill us all, because without antibodies we’d never recover. Influenza would kill everyone, not just those with weaker immune systems. The worry is that viruses will become more sophisticated, HIV for example, gradually attacks the immune system, before developing into AIDS to finish… Read more »

Marc

Jamie

We keep records? Homo Sapiens have been around for circa 220,000 years for the vast majority of that there were no records and no medical treatments for anything. If communities couldn’t develop immunity to viruses we’d all have been dead thousands of years ago.

As far as I’m aware the only virus where it’s claimed it has been wiped out is Small Pox by the vaccination program conducted by the WHO, that doesn’t mean there are viruses that no longer exist and went extinct.

China1

I don’t think we should be calling the death rate ‘pathetically low’. We have people here who have lost loved ones, immediate family so let’s choose our language a bit more carefully I agree that the death rate is realistically a fraction of what is reported because we know that a huge percentage of infections were simply not tested for. But I do believe it’s a dangerous virus that does prompt a serious reaction – but realistically that action should now be looking at how to protect the elderly, those who are compromised and those with diabetes whilst reopening. If… Read more »

Marc

Jamie

Answer me a question – just on a basic level.

When Europeans first went to South America new diseases and viruses decimated the indigenous populations – why weren’t all the Europeans dead before they got there? Why were there any Europeans left to even go there if there were all these terrible viruses in the population en masse?

China1

It’s kind of missing the point to worry about wiping the virus out entirely anyway. The question is only how do you protect the vulnerable, not how do you wipe it off the face of the earth. The vast majority of cases have been mild. People don’t need protecting from something that isn’t likely to be that serious. It’s those in the medium-high risk that need worrying about. The rest are broadly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things

Marc

China

Spot on mate.

Paulinho

“Getting out of the mindset will be a bigger problem than the virus as nobody wants to pull the trigger, so post viral economy is a bigger problem now.”

Thank god for the Germans, it wasn’t for them everyone would be in a state of perpetual paralysis and become further wedded to the unsustainable status-quo of being held captive to the perception rather than reality of the virus.

Aside from them, the only other place that didn’t have Stockholm Syndrome is Stockholm.

Sid

Chicken pox ?

Dissenter

Sid
Who’s Mr New York?
You can be funny when you’re not self-promoting your repetitious nonsense.

Ewu

Dissenter

Marc
Just curious to know your opinion about Troy Deeney. I hear he’s leading a mini-boycott of players at Watford.

Dissenter

We have a to find a way to live and work during this covid-19 pandemic. Waiting it out is not a credible plan because it will still be with us for a long time to come. Even a vaccine won’t wipe out all fears. For starters, I think it has irreparably crippled the US because it’s led to some crazy spending that cannot be paid back. We need global leadership, obviously lacking right now. I trust the Chinese more that I trust Trump. “ So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have… Read more »

Dissenter

Unai na
But don’t you think there are people manning the super markets, driving transit buses and picking up our trash daily that have similar stories.
I don’t think it’s black and white 😀😀😂😂, it’s shades of grey but he’s going to have as much protection as presidents can get.
Marc has been making a salient point that hunger may very well end up killing more people than the virus if we don’t get the gears going again pretty soon.

Rich

We’re too polite as a nation, and it’s even more prevalent in our political class. We should never have been locked down to begin with, we’re too scared to tell those in the vulnerable demographics that it would be safer for them just to stay home for a few months. And think it sounds fairer if we lock everyone away for solidarity, when that was almost completely unnecessary. 36 deaths now from under 40s with no “known” serious pre-existing conditions, which points to, if you have a healthy immune system? The mortality rate is negligible. No one should be forced… Read more »

Rich

Dissenter if you trust the Chinese more than Trump? You’re out of your mind.

The Chinese communist party has a self appointed lifetime president, commit countless human rights violations, stamp all over what should be considered basic human liberties like free speech, freedom of expression and freewill

They wipeout their political opponents and anyone who speaks out about the status quo.

Trump is an absolute 🔔-end, but to declare him worse the Chinese communist regime is frankly ridiculous

China1

At the end of the day the situation is bad, especially in certain countries. Many more are going to die tragic, awful deaths, most of them will die desperate, suffering and alone, the worst way of all to go. But every day there is more progress. More is understood about the virus, who is more at risk, what can help prevent it, Evolution of treatment methods, better understanding of the virus, new drugs being trialed, more vaccines being tested, more innovations to help us live with it. Any model or forecast which shows anything but this being brought under control… Read more »

Graham62

Rich

Where do you live?

Lands End or John O Groats?

Just curious.

🙏🍺

China1

Trump would love to have a Chinese model of government in America, let’s be serious here

That would be an absolute dream come true. It was only a day or two ago he was scolding Fox News for daring to say one negative thing about him bizarrely promoting a useless and slightly dangerous drug, saying he needs to find a new network lol

The guy is as corrupt and crooked as America has probably ever known

Graham62

Come on guys, those folk who are saying watching football behind closed doors is better than having no football at all are not being honest with themselves.

⚽️👎😩

Graham62

China1

Trump has zero credibility and he doesn’t care.

Micheal

Scrolling through the crackpot stuff on here suggests that CG has escaped from his straightjacket and taken charge of the pandemic.

Time to abandon Le Grove until the footy returns.

andy1886

Just a quick comment on the concept that it’s only the old and sick that are impacted and that everyone else will get a mild form of the disease and get over it. I have friends in the UK who’s sixteen year old daughter (no underlying health issues, not over weight, no reason to be badly impacted) caught this illness. She became seriously ill, was hospitalised and now some six weeks later is only just starting to recover. And it’s not just the main illness stage that is the issue, she now has post-viral fatigue that she has been told… Read more »

Dissenter

Pedro I think was the one who’s amused that Troy Deeney has raised such a fuss. Unai did bring the ‘identity politics” peice into it. I’ve worked every work day through this shutdown, left home to work. I’ve never been tested once because I just wont qualify for it. I just find it puzzling why any footballer who’s going to have as much protection than Boris and the cabinet members could be so fussy. They are going to have access to the best that modern medicine could provide in 2020 so what’s the problem? The whole idea of testing the… Read more »

Rich

Pedro mimicking the Chinese communist regime, there’s no football to talk about, we’re being locked away by our government, and he wants nobody to talk about it, and if you do? He’s going to make you disappear, this time maybe permanently….

andy1886

In football news we have been linked with Justin Kluivert as part of a swap deal to offload Mhiki.

He’s a left winger so would that mean Saka would be off? It’s a possible fall back option if he will not sign a new contract.

Dissenter

Rich
Maybe you want do start ingesting bleach, inserting ultra-violet ray devices through your orifices and take hydroxychloroquine to prevent covid-19?
You’re oblivious of the daily barrage of lies that this guy throws around … I’m not.

It may be you think the WHO that’s the most important useful part of the global structure should be defunded as part of a tantrum.
Trust him at your peril.

Dissenter

Pedro I hear you. It’s a grey issue but I’m sure everyone can use the Deeney reason to cop out of stepping up. If we all did that there will be garbage piled sky high on our streets, the food supply network will be broken and there won’t be anyone to man out hospitals. Deeney is essentially committing Watford to relegation because as captain he has sway in the dressing room, talk is that many players are staying away in support of him. He could have used his position to leverage more protection for his team mates. Sorry I don’t… Read more »

Dissenter

*man our hospitals

andy1886

I’m sure that Deeney is comforted to know that he has the same level of protection as Boris (caught the disease) and Matt Hancock (Health Secretary – caught the disease), and Chris Whitty (also caught COVID-19).

Testing doesn’t mean you wont catch it, just that you’ll know if you do by when you could have already infected vulnerable family members. That’s without considering that he’s more likely to get ill because of his ethnicity.

Dissenter

andy1886 His ethnicity doesn’t confer any more vulnerability, stop that nonsense. My skin ton is darker than Deeney’s and I don’t go around thinking the virus will get me because I’m black. If that were the case, Africa would be ravaged as we speak. The high incidence of co-morbid medical conditions and the socio-economic disadvantages many people of color face in western society is what is causing the disproportionate fatality numbers. If you’re more likely to be poor and work as a door man, grocery clerk, transit bus driver then of course you are more likely to get the vurus.… Read more »

Sid

Supreme leader Kim Pe Dro has continued brutal suppression in Pyong Grove, among those purged were his greatest adviser on Emery named CG reportely for being a traitor since Mi ke Arteta overthrowing the former.
His close advisers Cha Lee Champagne and Mr New york New york have designated us sponsors of agendas

Rich

Dissenter I don’t believe anything any of our politicians say, and while I’d very reluctantly vote for Trump over both Biden and Clinton, I still think he’s a complete 🔔-End.

To assert Trump is worse than the Chinese communist party is completely ridiculous, and really just confirms you’re the one not paying attention, and are so blinded by your hatred for Trump that you’ve lost all sense of perspective and reality.

andy1886

“Black people are more than four times more likely to die from Covid-19 than white people, according to stark official figures exposing a dramatic divergence in the impact of the coronavirus pandemic in England and Wales. The Office of National Statistics found that the difference in the virus’s impact was caused not only by pre-existing differences in communities’ wealth, health, education and living arrangements. It discovered that after taking into account age, measures of self-reported health and disability and other socio-demographic characteristics, black people were still almost twice as likely as white people to die a Covid-19-related death.” Sadly it… Read more »

Marc

Andy

Apparently there’s a higher incidence of diabetes and hearth disease in the BAEM community so is it ticking 2 boxes so to speak that’s the problem or is there something genetic causing the issue?

Dissenter

andy1886
Are you suggesting some genetic predisposition…or something?
Why isn’t Africa so devastated as we speak, despite of all the healthcare provision limitations the continent has.

Troy Deeney can be satisfied that he’s essentially relating his employers. There’s a consequence to everything we do or don’t do.

Dissenter

Sid
I love you man. Keep calling me New York even though I dislike that city with a passion.
You would have to pay me triple to make me live there but whatever.

Dissenter

*Troy Deeney can be satisfied that he’s essentially relegating his employers

Sid is the one that caused my typo 🙂

Graham62

Just had a browse through the pictures of SK’s £500m mega ranch in Texas.

Not bad.

Apparently both NY and LA combined would fit into the ranches area.

Marc

Dissenter “Marc Just curious to know your opinion about Troy Deeney. I hear he’s leading a mini-boycott of players at Watford.” I hadn’t heard that – it all depends if he has a child who would seriously be at risk if exposed then I can understand why and appreciate what he’s doing. If he’s just being a lazy fucker then no as has been said there are people on low wages who have the same or higher risk still doing jobs. What I would say if he’s genuine he wont’ have any problem with his wages being cut / not… Read more »

alex cutter

“Un, you bring more identity politics to this blog than anyone.”

Not to mention all of the bloody nappies.

NEEG

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Tonto disguised as a peanut was being asSalted.

Game of football anyone?

No doubt all of the political issues will come to the fore in the future and they will be massive.

Emiratesstroller

There was an interesting interview today between Alan Neil and Piers Morgan on Good Morning Britain. Alan Neil is apparently living currently in France, because he is not working at moment for BBC. I did not watch interview primarily because I am sick and tired of listening to Piers constant snipes. However, my wife did and more importantly there have been reports about what was discussed. Alan considered by many including myself as the most forensic interviewers in UK made some interesting points. 1. Most journalists and media pundits have not got a clue about what Corona Virus is. Why… Read more »