An expensive ‘no’

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So it would appear that the unanimous pay cut we thought the players and execs had taken didn’t come to fruition. There were 3 players that decided they wanted to sit it out. I actually speculated in the first draft of my post yesterday who that would be but I decided to take it out because it was unfairly speculative and maybe a touch inflammatory (soft, I know).

Two hours later, John Cross ran with the story that it was in fact Mesut Ozil.

Does it matter?

Yes it does. Anyone who thinks it’s not important doesn’t understand human dynamics and what goes into creating a unified culture in an organization that is striving for high-performance. Imagine how you’d feel if the highest-paid person in your company passed on a pay cut everyone else agreed to? It’d be scandalous. Imagine managing a group of young footballers and having to normalise that sort of behavior? It’d be tough. It’d feel like an assault on your authority, even though it’s more of an indictment on the individual.

The German is our most expensive player. He’s one of the most influential players in the world. He turned his back on the club and his team mates. One of our 5 captains didn’t want to put club before personal profit.

‘He pays taxes’ > so do the other 21 players.

‘He does things for charity’ > as do most players.

It’s not cool. It sends a terrible message to the younger players and it’ll leave a bad taste in the mouths of fans who have likely had financial hardship forced upon them.

Fans are waiting for his side of the story. It’s clear what that will be. He’s in the last year of his deal, in his early thirties, and his star has faded badly. The whole world knows Arsenal has been trying to move him on for 2 years. He was poorly treated by Unai Emery. He has very little reason to be loyal to leadership at Arsenal. However, I did hope he might take the moral high-ground on this one. Foolish, I know.

There are 2 other players that also refused. Interesting that the leaker of this story didn’t expose them. Seems like the dark arts of Arsenal PR were at play here, no doubt praying this pressures Mikel to stop loving on him so badly, and maybe spark fan pressure for him to go. I suspect the other two are likely players who have deals that would normally be expiring right about now.

I also think it’s a bit disappointing to read so many fans side with the players in this situation. Weird to saddle-up with millionaire footballers as you watch players all around Europe and in America volunteer much bigger chunks of their pay-cheques. So-called fans waiting to see if this is a huge profit scam haven’t been paying attention to 1) how much we lost last season 2) what happens to companies that suddenly lose the ability to operate.

Still, we can’t focus on the players not willing to do their bit for the club or moan about dim fans. The exec team landed a voluntary sacrifice from the players, they themselves gave up 33%, and the management team also did their bit. We shouldn’t let anyone dampen the initial positivity here. 21 players did their bit, that’s a huge chunk of commitment from a squad of players in disarray only 5 months ago. Where do you think we’d be with Emery running the negotiation? He’d still be explaining it.

The bigger worry for Arsenal fans is whether Bukayo Saka signs a new deal. His £7k a week deal is looking pretty shoddy right now. I don’t mind losing big-name players this summer, it really doesn’t bother me who goes, but I’d be desperately upset to lose a teenager of his pedigree. That’s an essential signing.

The Arsenal Thomas Partey links seemed fanciful to begin with, now Spanish press are reporting that Atleti are going to double his salary to £130k a week to fend off our interest. I guess that’d be us out the mixer. Still, I like that we’re being linked with a player like him, he’s exactly the sort of athlete we need in our midfield. Anyone coming from the University of Don Simeone is going to fit with the system Arteta wants to play. Let’s hope Cagigao has something a little more creative up his sleeve.

Right, short post today, see you in the comments. x

 

 

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  1. þorkell einarsson

    Özil is a peculiar brand of a person, if this is true, he both gives and takes
    probably the same amount. I was hoping he would steer away from making
    this kind of headlines after the birth of his child !!? Arsenal would do well in future if they avoid signing such defective personalities .

  2. Sid

    Whether the other 2 are Auba and Laca or Xhakalson and mustafinovs it just shows lack of ze mental strength/balls in the whole team, would you imagine someone defying viera? Someone going against Messi?
    Meanwhile at Arsenal we have Bellerin, WTF Bellerin?
    Then theres the saucy one, his inexperience at management is coming out.

    Im telling you this for free!

  3. Terraloon

    Sid

    It would appear that one of the players who have said no is a player out on loan

    It’s worth reminding that all players out on loan are paid through the parents clubs payroll.

  4. CG

    Sid

    “”””Meanwhile at Arsenal we have Bellerin, WTF Bellerin?””””

    Great observation.

    And I think its Bellerin is doing the continued leaking to the press.

    Someone is clearly trying to do damage to Ozils reputation.

    (It happened too frequently under Wengers last season too.)

    MA better get to grips with who is doing this other wise he will find he will have an almighty problem with team
    morale going forward.

    I feel he has becomea very corrosive character our Hector.

    Probably best a new start for him is required.

    Not sure that there will be too many serious clubs that will want him now.

    Shame, he was a real talent 2 /3 seasons ago. A £50 million player much sought after.

    He joins Holding, Mav ,Chambers , Laca
    Xhaks and indeed Ozil who have regressed alarmingly since AW left.

  5. Bob N16

    I have to say cancelling the season and going by UEFA coefficients sounds like by far the best solution to me. CL here we come!

  6. Freddie Ljungberg

    “Someone is clearly trying to do damage to Ozils reputation.”

    Clearly. His first name is Mesut and he’s been doing it for years.

    “He joins Holding, Mav ,Chambers , Laca
    Xhaks and indeed Ozil who have regressed alarmingly since AW left.”

    Ozil was already a shadow of his former self in Wengers last season.
    None of the others have shown much to regress from. Average players the lot of them except Laca who is decent but has never been top class for us.

    Delusional as always. Take your medicine fool.

  7. CG

    Morning Bob

    You know I am not a fan of Hector .
    He has lost his way.
    He has certainly lost his pace.

    Crikey Tom Moore is quicker on the overlap these days than Hector.

    Remember that goal against Bayern Munich in the CL -his 94th minute amazing lungbusting overlap to make it Arsenal 2 Bayern Munich 0.
    ( OZIL and Giroud scored)

    He was just focused on his soccer those days.

    But then maybe we had a proper manager then to guide and nurture him?

  8. Jamie

    “Remember that goal against Bayern Munich in the CL -his 94th minute amazing lungbusting overlap to make it Arsenal 2 Bayern Munich 0.

    ( OZIL and Giroud scored)

    He was just focused on his soccer those days.

    But then maybe we had a proper manager then to guide and nurture him?”

    What was the score on the return leg a couple weeks later, moron?

    Wenger, the ‘proper manager’ presided over another humiliation:

    Bayern 5 Arsenal 1.

    Keep it up.

  9. CG

    Jamie

    I know you and Freddie can’t do nuanced.
    And you both seem very embittered with our Wenger.

    Did he not give you any fleeting moments of enjoyment in the last decade?

    But I was alluding to the fact.

    That Hector was a far superior player ( like the others I mentioned) when Wenger was in charge than he is now.

    We know Wenger often had his ‘ Bayern troubles ‘-but he wont be the first manger to have done so.

    Eg.
    Spurs let in 7 this season at home
    Chelsea 3 at home….to them

    And they both have progressive modern super deluxe coaches too- with all their coaching badges, support staff and fads.

    Anyway – we won’t be playing Bayern for a good while yet, regardless of Corona.

    We cant beat Olympiakos at home now days let alone Bayern!

  10. UTarse

    Freddie mate, I wouldn’t waste your time…. terry wogan used to say “never argue with an idiot because someone looking on won’t know which one the idiot is”

  11. Pierre

    Jamie
    “What was the score on the return leg a couple weeks later, moron?
    Wenger, the ‘proper manager’ presided over another humiliation:
    Bayern 5 Arsenal 1.
    Keep it up. ”

    To say it was a return leg is actually wrong as they were group games and not 2 legged affairs.

    Does that make you the moron , possibly.

    Of course, Arsenal qualified from their group which is what they set out to do, mainly due to the excellent 2-0 victory over a top quality Bayern side.

  12. Jamie

    “We know Wenger often had his ‘ Bayern troubles ‘-but he wont be the first manger to have done so.”

    List one manager in world football (other than Wenger) to have lost 15-3 on aggregate over 3 consecutive games vs Bayern.

    Just one. Tick tock truth hurts.

  13. Freddie Ljungberg

    UTarse

    Think it’s pretty obvious in this case so I’m not too worried about the optics…

    I know it’s pointless and he has his head crammed so far up Wengers ass he’s immune to reality but sometimes his bullshit just can’t stand unopposed.
    Same with Pierre, totally delusional, former Arsenal fan that has devolved into hero worshipping of has beens that are or has been detrimental to the team.

    It was bad enough to defend Ozil when he was just stinking the pitch up for years and stealing a living, holding the club back and celebrate how smart he is to refuse to move on so the club can at least try to be successful but to do it now is just disgusting.
    Just old sad trolls with nothing better to do.

  14. Jamie

    Pierre –

    I’m the moron who, at half your [alleged] age, corrects your grammar. Now you know where you should and should not apply an apostrophe. You’re welcome.

    Sit this one out.

  15. Aussie Gooner

    Just finish the season now!

    Liverpool win nothing but more admiration from the press.
    Arsenal qualify for the CL on ‘coefficients’
    Spuds play EL.

    What better outcome in these difficult times.

  16. Bob N16

    Pierre, ‘return leg’ is surely the reciprocal fixture between two teams who are playing home and away. If you insist on only using it when it is a two legged tie then you are missing the nuance of the term and you are just come across as pedantic.

    It does fit in with your dogmatic point of view though, so maybe it reaffirms your Legrove image!

  17. andy1886

    “Of course, Arsenal qualified from their group which is what they set out to do, mainly due to the excellent 2-0 victory over a top quality Bayern side.”

    True enough, on head to head record after our genius manager masterminded an away loss to the mighty Dinamo Zagreb, a home loss to Olympiacos (who we pipped to qualification) and the aforementioned Bayern thrashing.

    All to no avail of course as we crashed out as was traditional in the round of 16 to Barca (5-1, loss home and away). Of course Barca weren’t a their best as they lost in the next round to Atleti.

    Am I correct in recalling that Wenger is the only manager to have lost in the final of both the CL, CWC and UEFA Cup?

  18. James wood

    Ozil.
    If you belittle your boss in a high profile job.
    You Should be sacked.?
    If you down tools and not perform to anything like
    the level that is expected in your workplace
    YouShould be sacked.
    If you feign injury and attend a function in Germany
    You should be fined.
    If you are a disruption to the squad
    and a bad influence .
    You should have a warning.
    Ozil has been guilty of all of these.
    Why is it players are hardly ever bought to book
    for breach of contract.?

  19. HillWood

    It is being reported that Ozil is willing to take a bigger pay cut than the the 12.5%
    He just wants it done properly and not done on the back of a fag packet
    If that’s the case it sounds fair enough to me

  20. Sid

    I have nothing against Bellerin as a player, he might have been playing with an injury hence his dip in form but Bellerin as a leader? Thats mediocrity,
    how do you motivate others if on the field you cant provide anything to change a game?

    The only place Bellerin should be a leader is in a hippie colony

    Im telling you this for free!

  21. James wood

    Hill -wood 10.29
    “ Not on the back of a fag packet “?
    Come on.
    They have been in negotiations for two weeks.
    Probably waiting for the Kroenke monies that never arrived.?
    Sad state of affairs when other clubs have gone the right way about it.

  22. Pierre

    Andy.
    “Am I correct in recalling that Wenger is the only manager to have lost in the final of both the CL, CWC and UEFA Cup?”

    To lose in a European final , you first have to qualify from the respective league or win a cup comp , you then have to qualify from the respective groups of the said European competition, you then have to get through the knockout stages of the competition and then finally, after going through this process you would require a number of things to go your way in the final to win the competition.

    The Arsenal finals could have gone either way..
    Lost to the Turkish side on pens and was minutes away from beating barca.

  23. Terraloon

    Bob

    If, and it’s a big if, the Co- Efficient is used to project who would qualify for next seasons CL/EL it’s unlikely to include the 2019/20 uncompleted season. Simple reason is that clubs like Wolves and ,although highly unlikely, Chelsea could still leapfrog others who at this point are higher up the standings

    My guess is that they would have to include the 2014/5 as it’s the last of the completed season in the 5 year cycle .

    That actually changes things because the top4 clubs in order are

    City 106
    Arsenal101
    Liverpool 91
    Chelsea87
    Utd and Spurs (joint)78

    I believe that there were several options in terms of qualification being discussed including just starting then next campaigns using those that qualified for the Group stages in 2019/20 or even extending the co efficient cycle for more than the current 5 year timescale.

  24. CG

    Woody

    “””Sad state of affairs when other clubs have gone the right way about it.””””

    Well what do you expect from our Dopes?

    They gave us Emery after Wenger, remember. And that worked out well!

    The whole wage 12.5 % wage cut has been typical modern day Arsenal fiasco.
    a.k.a -A complete and utter PR cock up!

    All to save a lousy £460 000 a week!!!

    We will end up paying more in attorney fees to sort out the contract amendments and not forgetting the constant negative publicity the club is suffering from it.

    According to Forbes.
    Stan is worth 10 billion dollars.

    A billion as we know – equates to a 1000 million.
    Stan and his gormless Playboy son are worth 10,000 million dollars

    I am sure he can cover the shortfall for a few months.

    I am sincerely hope Ozil stands his ground until Stan puts up first.

  25. Dissenter

    James Wood
    ‘ Sad state of affairs when other clubs have gone the right way about it’

    What are you referring to
    No other premier league club has announced wage reductions amongst their players. Many clubs can’t even broach the subject because the PFA has won the PR war.

  26. Marc

    “It is being reported that Ozil is willing to take a bigger pay cut than the the 12.5%
    He just wants it done properly and not done on the back of a fag packet
    If that’s the case it sounds fair enough to me”

    Sounds more like “oh it’s been leaked and I’m getting bad press – I didn’t think that would happen er need to make it look like I’m the good guy after all”.

    Ozil is the highest paid player at the club and one of the most experienced – if he is so concerned why isn’t he taking a leadership role like Messi has at Barca?

  27. Dissenter

    CG
    ‘ All to save a lousy £460 000 a week!!!’

    You’re really struggling with this.
    £460k weekly is a lot of money. It works out to £1.84 million monthly and £23.9 million yearly.
    You mean £23.9 million isn’t enough money for you?

  28. Dissenter

    Marc
    ‘ Ozil is the highest paid player at the club and one of the most experienced – if he is so concerned why isn’t he taking a leadership role like Messi has at Barca?’

    They want us to believe that Ozil’s contract is more complicated that Messi’s or Ronaldo’s?

  29. Terraloon

    Dissenter

    Morning

    Arsenal are the only club that have announced wage reductions ( it doesn’t mean that they haven’t happened elsewhere it’s just that they haven’t been announced.)
    Chelsea for instance are reported to have agreed a £10 million reduction in overall squad wages to come into effect between end of April and start of next season. No ifs and buts , no reduction in bonus or even requirement to pay back. Very easy to implement and minor changes to existing contracts .
    Two other clubs have agreed deferral WHU and Saints with Watford supposedly close to agreement

  30. Dissenter

    If this pandemic happened in 2012 when Ozil was still in Madrid
    Assuming the marquee player like Ronaldo or the captain Sergio Roberto took pay cuts.
    Would Ozil demur to go along?
    He’s been overly indulged at Arsenal. He’s always thought he’s too good for us and we are just lucky to have him round.

  31. CG

    Dis

    “”””””You mean £23.9 million isn’t enough money for you?”””

    Off course its a lot of money to normal folk but not to KSE .

    KSE , a remind you turned who turned down £2 billion from Usmanov.
    That’s an illustration of their wealth.

    Who can afford to turn down £ 2 billion?

    Now fans are getting worked up over Ozil’s £42, 500 not going into the club!

    Stan is 70 years of age- Corona is the air- does he know he cant take the money with him

    Spend it don’t hoard it Stan!

  32. Marc

    Dissenter

    I’ve never understood how people can be so weak minded, insecure, impressionable or just plain mad to get caught up in cults and the like.

    That’s precisely what we’re dealing with in CG and Pierre. Pierre is usually a rational sensible poster until Wenger or Ozil come up, he even seemed to have a bit of a break from it but has fallen back into old habits. CG is just plain bonkers and a racist cunt.

  33. Dissenter

    Terraloon
    Top of the morning to you too
    You ought to know that if there was a wage reduction deal agreed at any club. It would have to be announced.
    No ands, ifs and buts – they have to inform the public, same way the clubs put out a financial statement every year.
    Arsenal blazed the trail here and it’s obvious it’s messy because all they can use if moral suasion. All it will take is a few players to hold back. I wonder why a player on loan who has no sense of belongment will even agree to anything.
    Premier league contracts are going to be redrafted for the future. They need to have force majeure /act of god clauses written into them as an industry standard.

  34. Marc

    CG

    I know it’s difficult for you but Arsenal as a business (and a football club) is a separate entity to Kroenke or his other businesses – he just happens to own Arsenal.

    Just to show how fucked up you tiny little mind is you keep referring to Kroenke turning down £2 billion from Usmanov a little while ago whilst at the same time saying the club is now tacitly up for sale even quoting a Wenger led consortium to tie in with the release of his autobiography.

    If Usmanov was that interested why isn’t he buying the club now?

  35. Marc

    Any PL club that has done a deal to reduce player wages would announce it – it’s good PR for them especially if other clubs are publically known to have done it – to be seen as a club that hasn’t would draw unwanted attention.

  36. Dissenter

    CG
    So you think because Kroenke is a billionaire. He should just fill every budgetary shortfall for every enterprise he owns?
    On the contrary, he won’t get involved until the local leadership of the club show they have the cojones to make the necessary changes. Kroenke’s role is not to create a false sense of security.
    Let me give you an historical example; The war weary, reluctant American President [FDR] was fully sold on Churchill’s determination to do whatever it took to win the war after he authorized the utter destruction of the French naval fleet at Mers-el-Kébir
    After that attack he got whatever he asked from the US, short of America formally declaring war.
    Kroenke will look at the management and be more assured he not just throwing money at a problem.

  37. CG

    Dis

    “”””So you think because Kroenke is a billionaire. He should just fill every budgetary shortfall for every enterprise he owns?”””””

    Yes.

    Unless he wants his enterprises to go bust!
    Its called – welcome to the real world Stan!

    Maybe if he was not so greedy in the first place, he would have taken the £2 billion Usmanov offered.
    But he wanted more and more ….no point you lot blaming Ozil now!

    (I am not hearing Usmanovs Everton having these problems we are facing)

    But he will find, with no Wenger at Arsenal, the club ain’t worth that anymore.

  38. Pierre

    Marc
    ” Pierre is usually a rational sensible poster until Wenger or Ozil come up, ”

    Are you implying that a fan is irrational if he prefers to see the positives in Ozil and Wenger, who have both won many trophies for the club he supports whilst providing superb entertainment , but is rational if he continually criticises and disrespect them to the point of obsessiveness..

    The obsessives have a lot to answer for in my opinion, they have, to use your phrase, made Arsenal football club a laughing stock with their entitled behaviour, and look where it has got us.

  39. Jamie

    Pierre and CG completely infatuated with an old man and his £130m pet project Ozil like a couple of lonely creeps.

    Everyone knows it was the fans who lost to Bayern 15-3 over 3 consecutive matches, not their dear old lover.

    The obsession is real, folks. If either Pierre or CG had any balls, they’d challenge Pedro’s repeated insistence on the necessity of binning Wenger. But because they’re both sycophantic cowards, they’ll never address him directly for fear of being publicly admonished.

    Really brave.

    Sacking Wenger got us Arteta, an up-and-coming head coach with new ideas. Admit you’d take Wenger back and get rid of Arteta in an instant. Nah, then Pedro won’t pretend you offer up elite assessments going forward.

  40. Pedro

    CG, the real world is forcing paycuts on people… not billionaires putting money into their pockets. Unfortunately.

  41. CG

    Jamie

    “”””Admit you’d take Wenger back and get rid of Arteta in an instant.””””

    No…. but
    I would just like them to be working in tandem.

    Arteta and enthusiasm + Wenger and experience= Winning Formula.

    Think we could sack Round, Raul,Kia and Edu off too. ( which would save the £460 000 a week everyone is getting their knickers in a twist )

    keep it simple, its only soccer.

  42. Jamie

    “No…. but
    I would just like them to be working in tandem.”

    Right, you’d demote Arteta to make room for Wenger at the top. Does Wenger get to keep his £10m golden parachute for dropping us into 6th in your fantasy? Of course he does.

  43. Tom

    CG is like that small kid from a broken family asking his mom why his daddy can’t come back to live with them, while the stepdad goes to live with daddy’s new wife.
    It’s kinda cute but mostly sad.

  44. NEEG

    CG

    Wenger had the opportunity to have Arteta as his assistant. Pep had obviously seen Arteta’s potential and so did Poch at Spurs. It was only after Spurs made an approach that the dithering Wenger tried to keep him in some capacity at AFC but not for the first time he was too late.

  45. Dissenter

    I think it’s becoming bloody obvious that this league season will be cancelled. UEFA have started wrapping their minds around that possibility with all the talk of coefficients.
    Why don’t they just expand the CL next season?

    If Liverpool or Leeds complain about the season being cancelled, refer them to that city in Hubei province.

  46. Sid

    While Pierre is the mommy whose little son asks her why daddy doesnt love him any more after the divorce

    Im telling you this for free!

  47. Marc

    Dissenter

    Liverpool can go fuck themselves – little bit of karma coming back to them (there’s still plenty owing mind you) as for promotion if it’s a real problem just promote the 2 top teams, relegate none and then relegate 5 at the end of a new season.

  48. Marc

    Hillwood

    Are you referring to my comment about clubs announcing wage reductions? If so is it an opinion – yes – is it based on how people and clubs generally work – yes.

    I’d say it’s pretty much common sense when you bear in mind that it got out pretty quickly that the Spud’s had furloughed their non playing staff.

  49. Aussie Gooner

    No doubt a Trump supporter!

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    https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/21/anti-lockdown-protester-branded-covid-19-political-ploy-killed-coronavirus-12588467/?ito=cbshare

  50. andy1886

    Darwinism in action there Aussie!

    Honestly can’t seeing us signing Partey. Ornstein in the Athletic thinks that we want to sign both Mari on a permanent deal and Disasi from Reims but again that sounds unlikely unless Arteta wants to field almost an entire team of centre backs.

  51. Anonymous Commentator

    Bin ozil already, this player is a complete misfit at arsenal, he just doesn’t understand the collective culture that is being fostered here.

  52. HillWood

    Marc
    This comment
    “It is being reported that Ozil is willing to take a bigger pay cut than the the 12.5%
    He just wants it done properly and not done on the back of a fag packet
    If that’s the case it sounds fair enough to me”
    Sounds more like “oh it’s been leaked and I’m getting bad press – I didn’t think that would happen er need to make it look like I’m the good guy after all”.

  53. CG

    I know we don’t always have the most perceptive of folk on here, but what many are clearly missing is the fact the whole 12.5 % wage cut fiasco was only instigated in an attempt to embarrass Ozil.

    Don Rauls Monty Python dark arts strike again.

    Ozil like the Emery and Edu traps before has not fallen into it.

    I doubt if he will yet.
    If Arsenal don’t want him around any more.
    They should simply pay him off and be done with.

    Quite simple really.

  54. Ishola70

    I wonder if there are any posters on here that remember the pandemic of 1968 termed the “Hong Kong Flu”. Some of the older boys on here.

    Think it was named after Hong Kong because they were the country that suffered most from it but it wiped out around 100,000 in the USA due to US troops returning to home soil from Vietnam bringing the virus with them and of course there was no lock-downs going on then. Life just carried on around the deaths that were taking place.

    Originated from China again apparently the 1968 one.

    I suppose the advance of globalisation means much more countries are affected with this current pandemic but the one in 1968 wiped out around an estimated one million to four million world wide by the time it was over.

    Unfortunately there was a second wave of this 1968 pandemic which proved more deadly than the first wave and in several ways it is quite similar in terms of symptoms that we see now with this current pandemic.

  55. Guns of SF

    Ozil agent came out with that stupid statement. So it was he that spilled the beans mostly.

    I do wonder who the other 2 are. ….
    Quite a mystery…

    Ozil should come out in the press and say he is taking a 100% wage cut until we get back up and running. Not a deferral but a wage cut.

    He has been nothing but a scourge on this club. A chain wrapped around our ankles

    A divorce that should have happened a long time ago.

    Now he is a big fat cat sitting around getting fatter…

  56. Dissenter

    CG
    “I know we don’t always have the most perceptive of folk on here, but what many are clearly missing is the fact the whole 12.5 % wage cut fiasco was only instigated in an attempt to embarrass Ozil.”

    You did say saving 24 million yearly isn’t worth the effort, so there you go.
    Now it was all done to embarrass Ozil.

    Maybe Ozil can use the offense taken from the slight to eff off to the Turkish league.

  57. Marc

    Hillwood

    That’s based on my cynical take on players like Ozil – again I’ll ask the question if he was so concerned with making this done bigger and better why didn’t he take a leading role in going to the club and making it happen similar to what Messi has done at Barca?

  58. Guns of SF

    Ozil is derided by most fans who have the ability to see him for what he is.
    I sometimes wonder if Germany did not win the WC would Ozil have been placed on such a pedestal …. folks still think that player is in there …
    Alert! its not. HE is shit and once upon a time he played well in a team stacked with the best in the world.
    Now, he is exposed.

    He is a phony and a fraud. I wish he leaves

  59. Marc

    Ishola

    In my limited knowledge of naming diseases I believe they were named after the first place where an outbreak was identified – Ebola is a river close to the town where that was first identified (they didn’t want to stigmatise the actual town / village), you also have Marburg virus which whilst being a relative to Ebola it’s was first identified after an outbreak in a German town where some lab workers picked it up form infected monkey’s they were working on.

    They’ve changed that with this virus to stop any racial stigma against Wuhan or China – not sure that’s worked so well though!

  60. Marc

    Ishola

    Just as a reference Spanish Flu is reckoned to have killed 50 odd million globally – for Covid 19 to have a similar effect on the global population it’d have to kill something more than 200 million.

  61. Marc

    “but what many are clearly missing is the fact the whole 12.5 % wage cut fiasco was only instigated in an attempt to embarrass Ozil.”

    Why stop there why not claim Sanllehi orchestrated the release of the virus to either embarrass Ozil or even kill him – he does have a weakened immune system after all, Wenger was having to give him time off because of illness every time we had a tough away fixture.

  62. Valentin

    Dissenter,

    Circumstances are completely different in Spain to UK. Spain has a law that allow companies (clubs are companies) to unilaterally cut employee’s salary under specific circumstances. Barcelona threatened the players to do so. La Liga clubs have the upper hand in those negotiation. The Messi PR and Barcelona can then rewrite history that the players have voluntary agreed to a huge pay cut, but the reality is that Messi and consorts had to to threaten with a much worse deal before agreeing to the current change.

    I don’t think that the UK based players are on average greedier and more mercenary than elsewhere. It is just that because of legal circumstances they are in a much better negotiation place than in Spain.

  63. Dissenter

    Valentin
    You’re doing a stand-up routine if you think anyone in Barca can FORCE Messi to accept a pay cut.
    Messi is big enough at Barce to openly call out board members and rebuke the director of football. Anyone that crosses ways with him backs off.
    Have you considered the fact that Messi understood the gravity of the times we are in…and agreed to the wage cut. No one cut Messi’s wages by fiat.

  64. Pierre

    Guns of SF
    “He (Ozil)has been nothing but a scourge on this club. A chain wrapped around our ankles”

    Unless I’m mistaken, I could have sworn Arsenal reached 5 cup finals in 6 years (winning 3)since Ozil arrived.

    Taking into consideration that the previous 8 years before he arrived, we had won nothing and reached a total of zero cup finals, I would say that his contribution has been more than adequate.
    Definitely not a “scourge on the club”

    Guns of SF
    “Ozil is derided by most fans who have the ability to see him for what he is.”

    Unsurprisingly, due to the success that the club have had during Ozil’s time at the club, the majority of the fans recognise his qualities and are intelligent enough to understand that Emery was a buffoon and disrespected Ozil and continue to give him their support.

    The matchday fans have NOT turned on him, and as for the opinion of the know nothing’s on Le Grove ……. irrelevant.

  65. Gonsterous

    Don’t understand the hate towards ozil. It’s his money, he’s got bills to pay like everyone else. I’m not taking a pay cut, hell I asked for extra money to work online and guess what, I got it.