Arteta, Hector, and the art of persuasion

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The Arsenal players did it. The first group to agree to a pay cut in the whole of the Premier League.

Bravo guys. Bravo.

Arsenal, always a leader when it comes to doing the right thing. This case has been particularly weird, but I’m glad we’ve been bold and gone first.

We’re looking after the workers. We’re helping in the community. The players are stepping up when the club needs them the most.

Love it.

Special shoutouts to Mikel Arteta and Hector Bellerin.

If you’re still wondering whether Mikel is the real deal, I would hope this moment in time has eroded some of the doubt. These times are not normal, some managers would hide, not Mikel. He took over a very testy moment for the squad and convinced them to take the pay cut. That’s proper leadership, apparently he led with a big cut of his own. What this says is the players trust him more than leadership, which is not bad going for a 38 year old people feared was shrinking violet.

Second bucket of praise goes to Hector Bellerin. When he’s not baking vegan trousers for NYFW, he’s making BIG decisions with the players. I think we all knew he’d want to do the right thing, the guy is a modern inspiration to everyone, he’s basically who Jesus would be if he were a right back. The thing I love about his work here is that he went AGAINST PFA advice by accepting deduction in pay. Fuck Gordon Taylor and his self-serving ways. Premier League players are different, the expectations and the money involved are not the same as lower league players, the right thing to do to keep fans on side was to reduce the money.

I’m glad he showed leadership where so many other players haven’t. We’re the first, but we will not be the last. Already there is news that Liverpool players are going through the same process.

Finally, I want to say a big thanks to the players. Taking a cut would not have been easy, especially for the younger guys, so it’s noble that the did it and they did it first.

So what was the deal?

  • Qualify for the Champions League this year and you get your money back.
  • Qualify for Europa and you get some of your money back.
  • Qualify for next years Champions League and you get your money back and a £100k bonus.
  • Win the Champions League get £500k each.

Players that are sold will also be entitled to a rebate, but that cost will probably be passed on through the transfer fee.

So all in all, a good day for Arsenal football club.

On the Premier League season, the big 6 clubs have said that they will not impose a June 30th deadline on the season. It’ll end when it ends and that’s all that matters.

Good on them. I agree. Let’s get it done when the time is right. I’m hoping for an epic 90 games in 30 days summer extravaganza. There’d be no better time to be working from home. 3 games a day. Magic.

I’ll leave you with a pic of Podolski looking great in a really nice Arsenal shirt. I love that shirt. My dad did a JVC advert of Paul Merson in it. The player signed the shirt out of a shit hole pub in Hornchurch. What a ledge. I had it as a poster on my wall. Also, Lukas has nice skin for his age, I wonder what his regime is?

Let me know in the comments, yeah?

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Sid

Holding and chambers should be let go, not much potential there

CG

Walt

“””Completely forgot about Mavropanos but you’ll see a turnover of the squad this summer”””

Off course you will.The ‘buying’ clubs will be queuing up to pounce to buy our garbage and add to their costs.

We are so badly mismanaged these days – we will still be paying out all their wages (8 of them )for the rest of the calendar year.

(I note Mary was begging for a job on the Arsenal web site yesterday.)

Maybe Jan 2021- we will see some departures.

Sid

MuddyGoonerApril 19, 2020 09:29:43
Sid, I read somewhere that black skin doesn’t absorb Vitamin D from the sun as good as paler skin.
& also according to Mr A. Cutter they are fatter compared to the ones in Africa.

I’ve heard all these things here 1st!

Valentin

Marc, “As for bonuses being paid to players after they’ve moved – can’t happen. No other business pays people a bonus based on performance after they’ve left and it’d have to be the same with football.” Incorrect. since the 2008 financial crisis, laws and financial directive have changed to specifically handle bonus to be paid in the future. Bonus in finance can be clawed back if decisions made by the traders/executive managers have negative consequences after they left. In some case even if the consequence is not something for which their responsibility can be directly inputted. Some some derivative traders… Read more »

Marc

Valentin

Yes but that’s not what I meant – company’s don’t pay a bonus on performance after someone has left – deferring payment to make sure performance is met is different.

Do you think City would pay Kompany a bonus if they won the title this season?

Valentin

According to a lot of statisticians, the reason why Black and Latino in the US seems to have a higher fatality than other groups seems to be societal rather than medical. They are poorer and living in urban setting. A poor living in an inner city is more likely to be affected than a poor farmer in the middle of Dakota. Also they tend to suffer pre existing ailments that raise the risk of death. Mississippi and West Virginia have the highest adult obesity rate at 39.5% and Colorado has the lowest at 23%. So if you are obese, diabetic,… Read more »

Valentin

Marc, This is exactly the case. Players have agreed to cancel some of their salary and bonuses. They will get some money back if Arsenal qualifies for the Champion’s League. Even if they have already left Arsenal. So the money they will receive is contingent to Arsenal success after they have already left. That had already happen in the past as well. I am pretty sure that despite retiring in 1998, Cantona was entitled to the 1999 bonus for winning the Champion’s League as part of his loyalty package. Also in the past, one former Liverpool player has had bonus… Read more »

Marc

Valentin

I agree it’s about what’s in the contract but I don’t see how the PL, UEFA or FIFA can allow a conflict of interest once a player has left a club – I know it’s unusual times but I can’t see how they wouldn’t step in to stop that.

Terraloon

Valentin. Cantona retired in May 1997. Utd won the CL in May 1999 some two seasons after he had retired. Cantona would have played no part whatsoever in Utds qualification for the 1998/9 CL . I grant you it’s possible that there may had been some post Utd career payment but had Cantona not retired from football then based on FIFA rules there can’t be contractual obligations from two clubs, at the same time . As for the Liverpool player it’s possible that a post contract payment could have been made if the player had retired but are you able… Read more »

Marc

Terraloon I’m with you on this – no way it could be allowed for a player to have a financial interest in Arsenal doing well when he’s on the opposing team. For example and hypothetically: Kolas joins Villa and then this seasons matches are played out – we play Villa in our 2nd to last match and if we win it we get CL qualification and Villa are already safe, it’s 0 – 0 and in the 89th minute Kolas gives away a penalty which we score. That result gives us 4th over ManU and the Spud’s – would they… Read more »

Valentin

Marc, I agree that this raised a serious potential conflict of interest, but UEFA and FIFA refused to see it that way. Any notion of player conflict of interest raised by clubs tend to be fobbed off or quashed by FIFA and UEFA. When Thibault Courtois who was a Chelsea player was banned by his contract to play against them in a Champion’s League tie, UEFA intervene so he could play. Had we encountered St Etienne in the Europa League, Saliba could have played against us. A player joining the opposition club that needs to win to qualify for Champion’s… Read more »

Marc

Valentin

A loan player can’t play against their parent club in the PL to stop this exact type of situation but we’d be allowing it to happen after a player had moved.

I’m not saying it won’t happen I’m saying it shouldn’t be allowed.

Terraloon

Valentin

If I remember the situation re Courtis it was nothing to do with the players contract it was the agreement between Chelsea and Atletico. UEFA stated it would not be sporting for Chelsea to enforce that clause . Chelsea decided not to test the enforceability of the clause .

Unlike the PL rules there is no stipulation in the rules that a loaned out player can’t feature against their parent club.

So Chelsea’s players have agreed a straight 10% reduction, no ifs buts or the like and aren’t looking to claw any of that cut back.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-stars-agree-10-per-21891422