Luiz to sign for another year, some thoughts

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Hello Wednesday, or is it Thursday? WHERE AM I! I tell you where I am. Going to bed at 10pm and spending at least 1 hour in the app store deciding which fitness app to download. Reccos welcome. I’m looking for a fairly easy workout that boasts MAX returns. I want to have a body like Olivier Giroud, yesterday.

The hottest news off the press today is that David Luiz is going to have his extension clause activated, giving him another year, extending out his presence in an Arsenal shirt to 2022. That’s good news for a player firmly on the back 9 of his career. He had a lot to say in an interview with the Brazilian press about his exit from Chelsea.

“Every text message I was receiving, people were saying: ‘Come back, come back, come back, come back, we are here for you’.

“I give you the example of a gentleman there who is 75 years old. He was having breakfast with me at the time when he had the opportunity.

“He was texting me: ‘I am still waiting for you here to have breakfast again’.

“This kind of thing was so difficult for me, because I am someone that sees the heart as the most important thing.

“But then after that, in the professional way, I was saying: ‘It is a new moment for you. It is another big thing for you to do. Maybe if you stay in the comfort zone it is not going to be the best thing for you?’”

Geeeez Dave, stop talking about your ex all the time, it’s like, so boring.

“It was a top decision. [Arsenal] are a big club. I want to make this club improve and to shine again. The first days were difficult but after that I started to adapt.

“Now I am so happy and I want to do big, big things with Arsenal.”

That’s more like it. I was VERY apprehensive about his arrival at Arsenal. We know he’s a huge character, but he also had a rep for being divisive, so it was touch and go about his intentions. Was he here because his super-agent pushed him here for one last payday? I think the answer we’ve had to that is a resounding NO WAY.

I think he’s been an immense presence at Arsenal this season. He had a very, very average start, but he was playing for a manager that had zero understanding of all the things he’d been used to… namely, building a defensive structure. Since Unai Bummery left the building, he’s grown as a leader, a mentor and a player on the pitch. My favourite part of the United game I went to was watching David Luiz fist bump some good build-out play from the back. He was celebrating a sequence of passes like we’d scored. Other highlights include how he works with the kids. Compare his attitude to how Thierry was with Adebayor on the Project Youth kids of 2007 and it’s clear… he’s here to do something.

I suspect he’s also here for the coaching job after. There’s a lot of respect for what Arteta is doing at Arsenal, I also reckon he sees the rapid ascent from an injured DM to one of the top jobs in world football. I think Luiz has a great mastery of the English language, he seems to be thoughtful, has a high social EQ and he has that presence you look for in a manager. That might translate into nothing, but you’d be foolish to bet against a player of his stature, that has played in midfield and defence, not at least landing a job as a manager at some point.

Anyway, needless to say, I’m a huge fan of the David Luiz signing and I think an extension to his deal is well deserved.

Things that are affected by the virus I didn’t think of #1: Dani Ceballos loan deal might expire before the season is out.

Something to warm the cockles of your damn heart, Santi Caz wants a piece of the action on Mikel Arteta’s coaching staff. G. Ballague had this to say.

“Going back to Arsenal with Arteta is something that I think he’ll consider as a coach. I asked him about it, he said yes.

“I tell you what – Arteta and Cazorla together, really good friends first of all but really good special minds of football.”

I forgot that the two played together. I think this is a move that the fans would love. I don’t think we’d even care if he was any good. Put him in charge of halftime oranges if you have to. We love Santi. Not having an idea about his intelligence, ability to transmit idea, or his vision of the game… I’d say the one thing I’d have him straight on is getting Nicolas Pepe training on that right foot. Make that his job. Give him the job title of ‘Head of Ambipedal Therapy’, what a role, everyone will have one in their staff within months. Jokes aside, I like the idea of having explayers around the camp. It’s good for the vibes. We should be growing our own coaches, taking a lead from the RB franchise books. Has anyone given Bobby P a contract yet?

Rumours continue to gather pace in Spanish media that Auba is going to push for a move to Barca. This whole scenario has been greatly complicated by the virus. He’ll slink into the last year of his deal before we’ve finished the season. That lowers his market value and makes the idea of Barca a lot more appealing. I hope it doesn’t happen, but with all the financial doom and gloom around the club, it’s hard to imagine we’d let £50m slip out the door… Aaron Ramsey’s Scudetto lifting hands seared in the brain.

On that note, have a safe day, and people in the comments… no flu shit today, keep it to football, there’s plenty to talk about.

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CG

UN “””””CG said Luiz is a mates rates deal by Edu”””” Yes. skulduggery is going on. 100% certain off it. Why the rush to push through his deal now? Off course, I forgot -I am sure all the top clubs in Europe are smashing our door down to sign David Luiz. The club is rotten to its core and is bedevilled with self interested parties. And that’s why I have always advocated a strongman manager to counter it. A manager like Dyche who would not allow Edu and Raul to run amok with their own agendas. This is how we… Read more »

Champagne charlie

“To be so naive to think that an agent and his buddy who got the move for Luiz to Arsenal in the first place may not be the main movers behind him getting this new extension and totally out of the question is quite sweet.” I’ve stated no such thing. You really do make a habit of attributing nonsense to others dont you? Straw man arguments are your thing. I circulated ‘intel’ that is contrary to your view, in January Arteta had final say on who we signed and said no to Edu on a target, and in the last… Read more »

Ishola70

Charlie

Your “intel” has no bearing on this certain matter. It is regarding another player not called David Luiz.

David Luiz has his foot in the Arsenal door. The PSG fullback never got to that stage.

There is every possibility that now Luiz is in the club signed they being EDU/Kia were the main movers behind this new extension. Every possibility.

What this all boils down to is that there are posters that don’t really rate Luiz and others that think he is passable or ok. A mixed bag. A mixed response.

Champagne charlie

Ishola

Arteta having the final say on all Arsenal transfers is of no bearing to whether Luiz gets an extension?

Elite level bullshittery.

Ishola70

Charlie

You can completely rule out that Edu/Kia have not been the main movers behind the Luiz extension and that Arteta would have the final say on the matter because you read it somewhere online on the internet.

It’s completely up to you of course.

Didn’t we hear previously that Emery wasn’t having all the final say on players and that it was a mix with Edu and the little fella from Fantasy Island having their way at times as well?

Has there been a complete change from that now? If so Mikel really is the golden boy isn’t he.

CG

“”””And Edu? Whats he ever achieved of note- apart from being chucked out of the UK for a false passport?””””” Well he has given us David Luiz for not just 1 season but it looks like 2 seasons more. (And we waited a year for Edu to arrive.) Call me old fashioned – but a man chucked out of the UK for a fake passport is not a man I want to be in charge of Arsenals transfer policy. I would say he was easily led back then. And he is being just as easily led by Kia and co… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Ishola

I rule nothing out, again with the bullshit statements from you.

I’m saying something quite simple. I don’t believe any player is signed against the wishes of the manager, much less extended. This pov seems to be supported by the noise leaked from the club, meanwhile you have nothing to substantiate your claims outside of your own ramblings.

I don’t agree with the rubbish about Emery having no say in transfers, but I do think Arteta is a more demanding character and less of a pushover which I’d speculate does well in instances like this.

Frank C

Another example of incompetency from Sanllehi, etal. Luiz is too old, makes too many mental mistakes and at this stage of his career he can only function in a “back three” which MA has shown no interest in employing as part of his tactics. Or at least not with this group of defenders. What MA needs is a younger, true center back who can be paired with Saliba and Mari next year I suspect that Luiz’s recent enthusiasm for the club and manager is/was due to his realization that his time in London was coming to an end. The disturbing… Read more »

Redtruth

Emiratesstroller
“Since Arteta arrived his performance has improved and with only 4 players
in the squad who are aged 30+ we do need some experience.”

Oh the irony lol..How about an experienced Manager…

CG

Frank “””””I suspect that Luiz’s recent enthusiasm for the club and manager is/was due to his realization that his time in London was coming to an end”””” Well said Frank, 100% correct analysis too. Shame the naive posters on here dont have your nous and acumen. It’s so darned obvious-Luiz is toying with Arsenal to extend his playing career. He will end up with a nice coaching job to boot as well, I am sure. His Brazilian chum Edu will see to that. Maybe we will be the first club – that has 2 technical Directors at the club. Edu… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

There’s a pretty good chance we’re getting rid of Mustafi, PapaSok and Mavro in the next window (whenever that may be). That leaves us with Luiz as the only CB with any experience of playing extensively in the PL. Holding is injury prone and Chambers is out for a good while longer, neither has had extended runs in the team, always breaking down. Arteta doesn’t seem to fancy Holding either so maybe a decision on him will be made too. Then we have Saliba and possibly Mari. Makes total sense to extend Luiz and there’s still room for one more… Read more »

Ishola70

Freddie

There have been plenty of other posters on here that have not been too happy with this extension.

He is not rated by more than enough on here.

Arsenal could have cleared the decks somewhat of the current CBs including Luiz and brought in more than just Saliba but they have decided not to which is a shame because Luiz is not going to lead Arsenal to any real glory any more than Granit Xhaka is. Two scatty players for you right there.

Ishola70

Nowhere near defensively sound enough throughout a whole season.

Freddie Ljungberg

So who do we keep for experience then if we’re shipping out Mustafi, PapaSok and Luiz? Of those 3 I’d rather we keep Luiz. I would very much prefer if we buy someone like Upamecano to partner Saliba but it would be foolish to drop them in at the deep end from the start and a player like Luiz could ensure a smoother transition. I’ll take Luiz over Xhaka any day of the week, Luiz is very capable of a commanding performanceand is a more than decent backup, Xhakas upper limit is mediocrity, and he’s not really a player that… Read more »

Ishola70

Freddie Experience is very good if coupled with a consistent reliable performer. Are you going to tell me with a straight face that David Luiz is a consistent reliable performer or even a top rated CB. Some on here would snap your hand off for a straight swap of David Luiz for Upemecano. If you are desperate for a bit of experience being around why not let Papa Sok run down his contract and be back-up to a more progressive CB partnership. I always feel with Luiz that his leadership qualities at times are a bit plastic just like Xhaka.… Read more »

Pierre

CC “I’m saying something quite simple. I don’t believe any player is signed against the wishes of the manager, much less extended. ” “I don’t agree with the rubbish about Emery having no say in transfers,” Correct on both accounts. If Arteta doesn’t want a player , then they they won’t come to the club. If Arteta doesn’t want a player’s contract extended , then it won’t be extended. Arteta has the final say. It was slightly different for Emery .it was all a little wishy washy . He had an input but he didn’t have the final say ,… Read more »

Thomas

Luiz should’ve never been signed in the first place let alone get an extension.

RockyRoe

I’ll love dayot to partner Saliba as well, but I need explaining on where are we to get the 49 million it would take to get him?

It’s easy to say, get him or him or him, until you realise we would also need atleast to midfielders and a rb. Thats 100 million right ther, then the 30-40 for a good cb, where are we getting all this dough from?

I highly doubt we would have more than 60 million net to spend. Thats why the 7 million Luiz extension makes sense, atleast as an immediate solution.

jwl

Ishola70 – one thing I read is that China and South Korea were using old malaria drug called chloroquine to successfully treat virus sufferers while Italy hasn’t been using it.

Aussie Gooner

Inviting Luiz to stay around for another year tells you all you need to know about the ambitions of the club.

Nelson

“He must decide what his football philosophy is and bring in players that suit his philosophy ”

We have already seen his football. It is ball possession and fast passing. Pepe doesn’t suit his philosophy at all. Arteta will have a big job to convert Pepe.

izzo

Extending Luiz is bullshit. Pretty sure he’s not a football psychologist so all this nonsense about him being great for the kids should just stop. Isn’t it Mikel’s job to teach the kids and not Luiz. Pathetic pandering to rubbish mistake prone players because you reimagined he’s performing at the highest level in PL which he is not because look where we are in the table and the costly mistakes hes had in defense. We need to shoot up the table and sorry but we’re not doing that with Luiz, Xhaka and Ozil starting games in the PL again next… Read more »

China1

I think it makes perfect sense to keep luiz for next year but if this means he will have two more years with us I’m not quite sure what the rush is to lock ourselves in with that 2 years is quite a long time in football for a player in their 30s, and with various other players expecting to come and go in that position it’s hard to say if he will be an expensive surplus going into the last year of his contract. But I’m open minded on the matter, just not sure why we need to rush… Read more »

Johnno

Marc – it was Dave Mackay that Clough was signing. Midfielder- played him at Centre half Not sure how anyone could assess the luiz deal in isolation. It’s fair to think Arteta is getting some say. If it turns out that the conversation had been as follows ; “Raul , how much do we have to spend ?” “Mikel, we have 30 million net. What do you need ?” “Well. I need a whole new midfield. Sell who you have to to raise cash and let’s buy a midfield. Resign luiz. He’s been okay. And we have saliba coming in.… Read more »

China1

And yeah we don’t have the luxury of replacing half the defensive players and the entire midfield in a single summer so priorities must be drawn up Replacing xhaka and ozil should be priorities n1 and n2. After that we can look at other positions in seriousness. Saliba should help the defense to some extent though we shouldn’t expect the world from him immediately. With Tierney finding fitness he should be like a new signing and youth players like saka and martinelli can improve and also help shield the damage of losing other players I just hope arteta his the… Read more »

Sid

Mustafinovs, papasok, chambers, holding need to go in that order we keep luiz, Mari, Saliba, Mavro. Loan mavro if we add another CB but thats unlikely. Upmecannot happen we dont have the funds.
Midfield is everything

China1

In the summer I suppose we will have Luiz Sokratis saliba holding chambers mustafi all as CBs (tho chamber is also RB cover) We will hopefully sell mustafi, and I wouldn’t be surprised if we pick up Mari at a net profit set against a mustafi sale. It might not be a world class list of CBs but there should be more than enough in there for us to have a decent pairing in the first team with some at worst passable cover. If we’re lucky holding and/or chambers kick on which would further lessen the concerns. I don’t think… Read more »

Moray

China, i really think it’s hard to second Guess the transfer market this summer. There is likely to be a lot of clubs in financial difficulties, particularly those with huge financial liabilities like Juventus or (ha ha) The Spuds. We need to get rid for sure but I doubt fees will be high. The flip side could be us picking up some great potential for reasonable prices if we keep our powder dry.

China1

Yeah moray it’s hard to know at the best of times but this summer is going to be the strangest window ever realistically

Like you say we will probably struggle to shift players or get good fees, but you can probably cut 30% off our outlays for signings as well

We’ll see how it goes in reality

Moray

Thinking about that: oh how the Spuds supporters laughed when we completed our stadium project in the jaws of a recession. They seem to have completed theirs in the face of the end of days.

I hope for their sake that their interest rates are variable, though I don’t see why they would be.

Expect them selling of Kane just to survive till the beginning of next season.

Moray

I read that sky are refunding sky sports customers because there is no Football going on. I expect that money will be recouped from the FA and from the clubs. Hence the drive to finish the season.

It is still unclear what we will be lookign at when this passes, economically, sociologically, politically. Much will be changed. But if the Spuds collapse as a club much of it will have been worth it.

Unai

Pedro, if your on Android get an app called ‘Thenics’, it’s basically a bodyweight only exercise app. Teaches very basic calisthenics exercises right up to advanced and all you really need is a pull up bar and a dip bar but if your on lockdown you could probably muddle by without. I’ve built a calisthenics gym in my garden, I usually train indoors in winter but its going to come in very handy in the next few months. Great thing about calisthenics is it’s seriously hard work, recruits many muscles and provides functional strength, progress can be rapid if your… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Personally I don’t think that Arsenal will recruit more than 3-4 new players in this summer’s transfer window. There were already major changes to our squad at the start of season 2019-20 with recruitment of Tierney,Luiz,Saliba,Ceballos, Martinelli and Pepe PLUS promotion to first team squad of Saka, Smith-Rowe, Willock, Nelson and Nketiah. Since then we have added Mari and Soares whose loans may well be converted into permanent transfers. So we have changed 50% of the squad personnel. I still believe that we will recruit one new centre back and I think that at least 3 who are currently on… Read more »

Gentlebris

‘Seems the meejah have now done the obvious & linked their darlings MANURE with Aubameyang for £35 million which they say is his price.’

Auba wants to play CL football…..immediately and for the rest of his rising curve days.

Why would he join United? A team that might not even make Europa next year.

Redtruth

Emiratesstroller

You’re just guessing mate, you don’t what is going on at Arsenal.

Opinion is one thing, bullshit is another.

Habesha Gooner

What did I miss? Did we activate a clause in Luiz’s contract for a 3rd year? If so that would be stupid. We should have him as backup next season but beyond that I think he needs to be just a stopgap option. he is already 32. Even if he was good enough for the rest of next season and this season ( Who knows of it is going to start), We would still have this option then. Why tie yourself to a 30 something defender for three years when you can have him for just two and activate a… Read more »

Gentlebris

Well I think extending Liuz is a good idea and doing it now is brilliant. Luiz is the only defender we have who can 100% play from the back, you may view that his defending is a bit watery but you can’t be sure of that until you give him a good man at DM. Luis played at the very top and you can’t really tell me there were things he did fine then that he can’t do no more, basically Luiz is the same guy that an EPL winning side relied on. Why don’t we wait for another year… Read more »

þorkell einarsson

David Luiz knows the PL inside out ..
Pepe is shy and lacks confidence
Ceballos is not agressive enough ..

Tony

https://www.netflix.com/th-en/title/80244928

Might be worth a look, especially if you’re isolated

Tony

Two 19th-century footballers on opposite sides of a class divide navigate professional and personal turmoil to change the game — and England — forever.

Emiratesstroller

RT You have just come off a ban. Stop being personal. As I have said previously what I am posting is “opinion”. Arsenal recruited or promoted 13 players last season, which is the equivalent of half our squad. So Arsenal are unlikely to make wholesale changes this summer particularly in current economic climate. At the moment the club has too many CBs on books so I don’t think that my opinion there is likely to be unrealistic. Similarly we know that our midfield lacks athleticism and creativity so one assumes that the club will want to do something there. The… Read more »

jwl

Joke Friday – A man wakes up and finds himself in a hospital room, one with only himself in it. He has no recollection of how he got there. While pondering it, his bedside phone rings, and he answers it. A doctor on the other end identifies himself, and tells the man: “I have really bad news. You’re very sick. After your collapse yesterday, we ordered several tests, and got the results back this morning. I’m afraid you have Avain flu, Ebola, and you’re positive for HIV and hepatitis.” Stunned, the man asks “Well, what’s next!? What are you going… Read more »

Pierre

I saw a sign at the local butchers.

“LAMB REDUCED FROM £10 TO £5”

Sheep at half the price.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Strikers
Martinelli
Eddie
Laca
balogun

Wingers
Pepe
Nelson
Saka

Could this be our 7 front players next season….

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

In

My captain would be bellerin or tiernay .

Pierre

Did you read a about the man who was down the beach and was taken out to sea by a tidal wave of tonic water

He was schwepped away.

CG

UN

“”””Tierney for me”””””

He will most likely put his shoulder out tossing the coin every week.

And he probably still wont be fit if the season resumes in September.

How low have we sunk- we are advocating the likes of Tierney as ARSENAL captain?

Tierney!!!

From the likes of McClintock, Neill , Rice Adams ,Vieria to the bloody baby faced Tierney.

Mindboggling, how quickly we have sunk

Luiz and Tierney as lynchpins.

Midtable if we lucky.

Pierre

Arsene Wenger always said that making any more than 2/3 signings/ changes in a transfer window creates instability in the team/ squad , and he is being proved right. The turnover of players at the club in the last 2 years had been way too high and more importantly the squad is weaker, especially in the midfield and defensive areas. The instability is set to continue due to the continuous change of coaches and backroom staff. Unless a club have limitless cash as Chelsea and City have had the last ten to fifteen years, then I’m afraid that continually changing… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Pierre

You are absolutely right.

When I suggested 3-4 transfers I factored in that Arsenal have Mari, Soares and Ceballos on loan and one or two of these might be signed on permanent deals.

Therefore I don’t believe that Arsenal would sign more than one or two additional players.

James wood

Evidently we have a pre contract agreement with two players and their clubs.?
So on the evidence of who needs to go I expect at least 2 more players on top of
those.?

CG

UN “””””CG think he’s perfect captain material””” What after playing 6 games for Arsenal Playing 15 games in the whole of 2019 And only ever playing in Scotland.? Hardly Billy Bremner or Dave Mackay is he? Don’ t you think – making him captain means you end up playing him more and as a consequence he would keep get injured. He needs nursing through a season (Florence Nightingale would struggle to keep this lad fit for 10 games.) Xhaka is durable as Cha Cha rightly states and should be the team captain. And ignore our self entitled supporters . They… Read more »

Pierre

CG
“Hounding out the greatest manager we are ever going to get.”

I don’t suppose there will be any apologies forthcoming from the Wenger Obsessives for their despicable behaviour.

James wood

Un he was a great manager.
But I saw him in Waitrose near Chapel st
just before he left.
He put 4 things in his basket and promptly
took the out those and put something else in.
He was a lost soul and still is.
All good things come to an end.??

UTarse

Wenger nutters are out in full force this morning

CG

Pierre (They got what they wanted.) And no -one will or can reverse our slide until we get new ownership who are actually engaged in the club. Ie. They want to make Arsenal champions off England again and admired worldwide as before. Wenger did 10 years of brilliant management under Dein and Co. And then did 10 very solid years of management under KSE. With all the people in charge at the club , from Arteta,Raul,Vinny,Emery,Hussey,Edu they still cant beat Wengers last season. And they wont for a while yet. Maybe another £250 000 000 needs to be spent just… Read more »

Pierre

Ufraud
“Wenger nutters are out in full force this morning

It’s ufraud, the archetypal Wenger obsessive, who in his infinite wisdom decided to boycott Wenger’s last 2 seasons despite ( supposedly)having 2 season tickets.

How stupid must he feel.

James wood

Yes Un sorry.😎

Pierre

Getting Tierney fit should be top of the list for him and then the hard part is keeping him fit. A 100% fit and firing Tierney will be an asset for the team offensively. Personally, I would rather have full backs whos first priority is to smell danger and defend for their lives, Ashley Cole and Lauren spring to mind in this respect. Let’s see if Arteta can structure a solid defensive unit in the coming months. There have been a few positive signs but I think protection from midfield is the key. Centre mid is the priority in the… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Tierney has always been considered much better than Robertson, like not even close in terms of talent. Robertson has found himself a setup and manager to extract his peak, hopefully Arteta proves capable of doing that with Tierney.

On the number of transfers front…

I agree with the idea more than 2/3 transfers for the first XI can potentially disrupt the side, but this particular situation that’s fallen on every club diminishes that likelihood imo. This will be a significant downtime for clubs, and this can be a benefit for recruiters.

UTarse

Give it a rest little p, your god has left the building.

Poor obsessed little p.

Jamie

I have no doubt that if Tierney can stay fit, we’ll have absolutely no worries at LB for years.

The kid has talent.

andy1886

Pierre, the problem isn’t player turnover – it’s buying badly which we’ve been doing for years (several with Wenger still at the helm). I’m not convinced that we will sign any of our loanees come the window, no reason to keep Soares, no reason for so many CB’s, and Ceballos will also probably return to Spain. What we will be doing is trying to reduce the wage bill so if Ozil can’t be shifted (more persistent than Coronavirus) some of our big names will probably have to go IF we can shift them. Given the likely financial crisis it will… Read more »

CG

Tierney v Robertson. Since when has Tierney ever proved himself at the top level? Robertson had proved himself with Hull City. AND HE AIN’T INJURY PRONE. 99 premier league games before Liverpool thought he was a sensible purchase at £ 8 million. Now compare with Our Dopes. We spend nearly 4 times as much. HE IS VERY MUCH INJURY PRONE. And he has never played a premier league game before. Maybe that basic example in a nutshell- is Why Liverpool are European Champions and we are floundering midtable? There is much to like about Tierney (especially in his demeanour )but… Read more »

China1

Bellerin as captain? He hasn’t been a stand out talent in the best part of two and a half years and has also been consistently injured over the last 12 months

He’d be one of our good options to look at selling ahead of making him captain if I was in charge

… though it seems I am not funnily enough!

China1

CG Tierney May or May not always be injury prone but there’s absolutely no evidence on which to draw that conclusion

A year of injuries is hardly unique to Tierney. Diaby and wilshere were on the treatment table for several consecutive years for every kind of injury imaginable. Tierney has had a bad year. It’s too early to say if that means anything

CG

Un

“”””Man CG you are so negative””””””

Well I ignore the fact Arsenal are having the worst season in 40 years

Ill recite fairy tales instead.

No- in fact Ill leave that to others.

ps. telling the truth is not negative or indeed positive. Its just the simple Truth.

Champagne Charlie

CG You can cite Arsenals worst season in 40 years all you like, but it doesn’t relate to Tierney’s ability given he never kicked a ball for us for any length during that time. Your argument is redundant as ever. Also Robertson didn’t cut it at Celtic, he went to Queens Park, Dundee United, Hull, then Liverpool. Tierney made it at Celtic, he was their captain and best player at 21. Doesn’t diminish Robertson for a second, but the two were bought at very different ebbs and Liverpool paid for a good player who had improved season after season, meanwhile… Read more »

CG

China Do you seriously believe Tierney to be a better left back than our current one? And what actual evidence do you base that on? The Teirney fan boys are typical of the modern fan/supporter. Just because he is expensive and new – they automatically assume he will be better than the incumbent. Probably why – so many upgrade their phones annually. Tierney in a million years will never be a better robust and durable left back than Sead K. And it was total insanity to spend £ 30 million on him. I guess some agents did rather well out… Read more »

CG

Cha Cha

“”””meanwhile Arsenal paid for a potential star.””””””

There we go again……more fairy tales.

Marc

“Just because he is expensive and new – they automatically assume he will be better than the incumbent.”

But Saka isn’t the incumbent – that’s actually Kolas, Saka who’s done an amazing job has been parachuted into the position because of injuries.

Only a few weeks ago many on here were keen to sell Auba in the Summer because Martinelli can take over up front, that leaves Saka as LW and Tierney as LB.

Not sure I agree with that but it was something being argued – either way Auba’s not a LW anyway.

Champagne Charlie

Un

Disagree there, I find both fullbacks wildly overrated and riding the crest of good will Liverpool have conjured as a whole unit.

The system they play is brilliant for their respective strengths (attacking), but under scrutiny their defending has been found wanting – when the aura of invincibility is finally smashed they’ll be seen more realistically imo.

TAA to me is a much better player, his ability with the ball is top class whereas Robertson is more industrious and a bit less refined.

Redtruth

Our greatest ever manager took the team to the dizzy heights of winning the FA Cup whilst fumbling along in the league.

I can live without winning the second rate FA Cup.

Redtruth

Even the football ignorant Owner saw the FA cup as worthless hence Wenger’s sacking.

CG

Cha Cha

“”””Disagree there, I find both fullbacks wildly overrated”””””

So there we have it.

Liverpools full backs are overrated- despite loosing 2 games in about 100 premier league games……
But our perma crock one- Tierney is a potential star……just because he was Captain of Celtic at 21.

(Tierney has played 6 games for the club.)

As I said Fairy Tales.

Redtruth

Tierney is a must play player and s better option for Captain than the current bunch of pussies in the team.

CG

UN

“””””For me he’s the best left back in the world right now. I think Tierney has a higher ceiling.””””””””””

Evidence, evidence, evidence on what?

6 games in his Arsenal career…..?

Robertson has played against all the best wingers in Europe and in the prem and proved he can cut it….

Since when did Tierney come across the same quality of wingers?
in the SPL?

Spanish Dave would get a game for Motherwell or Hibernian in the SPL .
And he would be probably be a stand out performer.
It is garbage.

Redtruth

Let’s face it, playing for Liverpool would make Mr Blobby look good playing at left back..

Valentin

3~4 players per transfer window if you keep the same philosophy of play. When a club changes manager the stability is less a factor. The big questions become: 1) Does the current group of players fit the new manager style of play? 2) If not can the change of playing personnel be made at a reasonable cost in one TW or should it staggered? I think that Arsenal will go for 1 CAM, 1DCM, 1RB (if Cedric’loan is not made permanent), 1 CB (if Mori ‘s deal is not made permanent). The quality will depend of how many players we… Read more »

Jim Lahey

Here is one for you. Arsenal’s best 11 made up of players AFTER the Invisible.

For me: 433

—————————– Leno ——————————

Sagna ——— koscielny — Vermaelen ——— Clichy

——————- Cesc ——– Cazorla ———————

Nasri —————- Arshavin —————– Sanchez

———————– Van Persie ———————–

Come get the ball off me! Would leak goals but would be the Harlem Globetrotters of attacking!

CG

UN

“””””Because I’ve seen him play in the champions league against the best teams in the world and was the best player on the pitch in some games but in others more than hold his own.””””””

You are not telling uncle CG fibs are you?

Can you ( if possible) recall the opposition?
It should not be too difficult – Celtic don’t play too many of these fixtures.

They more at home beating Dundee 6 zero.

Freddie Ljungberg

https://talksport.com/football/684823/arsenal-alex-song-johan-djourou-swiss-sion-pay-cut-coronavirus/

Greedy cunts the lot of them, would hardly be starving if they got reduced pay for a couple of months would they?

Sad to see the Corona chat die down just for le grove to be infected with Wengeritis, no known cure for that either.

Marc

Freddie

There are going to be people on normal salaries or even low paid who are going to really struggle through this.

As you say pure greed – they should be offering to stay on with zero salaries until this is over.

Marc

Actually on that note I’d really like to see all of the senior players at the club offer to forego one weeks wages in order for all of the match day staff and lower paid employees to receive a one off payment from the club. It would be revenue neutral and could see all of the staff receive a fairly decent amount of money – could easily be £1000 per person.

andy1886

Jim, attractive side but in the middle of the park we would be absolutely steamrollered. To keep the ball you have to win it back first unless you kick off and play for a 0-0!

Sid

Wengeritis is a result of sexual starvation, so theres a cure.

Im telling you this for free!

Uwot?

Jim.v.nice line up.But how could you leave out “ Little Mozart”the one & only Thomas Rosicky.But for injuries.more of a shame than Diaby.so toss out fat boy Nasri .slip in tommy Rosicky & we’re agreed.🤩

Pierre

Robertson has a similar game to Nigel Winterburn…which makes him a very solid, dependable full back.

Trent Arnold is pure effortless class on the ball..

Jamie

Peak Ozil gets in ahead of Arshavin, and Rosicky was more talented than Nasri when fully fit, imo*. I also thought the Gallas Verm partnership was stronger than Kos Verm when everyone played well.

*assuming we’re talking about players at their best.

CG

Un “”””Cg You have no idea how good Celtic are at park head and how they turn over suitors biggest sides or lose unjustly there It’s a fucking fortress””””” I agree- it’s a fortress. I am not deriding the Scottish club or its supporters. Just the standard of Scottish soccer. (We all know its seriously substandard, to put it politely) Their fans put our lot to shame. All ours seem to do on big European nights is either: Turn up late, Leave early, Take it for granted or moan about the fact we ain’t winning every match. Never for once… Read more »

China1

CG on what grounds can I be called a Tierney fanboy? Hahah I was one of the few on here who called him an expensive unknown on the summer specifically because I’m not sure doing well at Celtic *necessarily* tells you much and his price tag was akin to someone proven at a more established league than the Scottish pub league That said, I can only judge him on what I’ve seen of him which is far too little to draw any conclusions because of his injuries. So yeah he’s had an awful year for injuries and it’s not a… Read more »

China1

Celtic aren’t a bad team but their stadium and fan base is always a key reason for their ground being a fortress

The place is absolutely rocking skin to Anfield on a home game in the CL. Incredible atmosphere, one of the best in club football. They can compete with anyone at home but usually get majorly undone away in knockout phases against any decent teams because their fans are the 12th and 13th man pushing a less than brilliant team on to decent heights at home

Redtruth

Comparing Jock Stein to Wenger is an insult.
Stein triumphed at the highest level, Wenger never did.

CG

China “””CG on what grounds can I be called a Tierney fanboy? Hahah”””” I wanted to distract you from covid 19. (Anyway you get out of that China – and get back into a civilised country.) Anyway. The point I was making. There is no evidence apart from a few European matches for Celtic that he is actually any good. I mean can he actually defend? Sure he can go forward with the ball . And that’s before he we mention his chronic injury problems. And that we already have 2 better left backs on our books. Absolutely incompetence at… Read more »

CG

And Big Jock could not handle English soccer with Leeds United.

He returned tail between his legs back to the easy pickings in the SPL.

How many trophies would our Wenger won -had he managed in Scotland for 20 years?

30+
40+
50+?

Redtruth

Why should Arsenal fans revere a flotsam manager.
Stein left Celtic at the top of his game while Wenger remained like a bad smell.

Redtruth

CG

Stein left Leeds to manage Scotland after 44 days in charge.

andy1886

Un, Graham won a European trophy, Wenger with many more opportunities didn’t.

andy1886

True, but then again Wenger lost the final against Gala in 2000, a significantly poorer side than the Parma side that Graham’s far technically inferior team beat in ’94. Because Graham was a better tactician.

Personally I wouldn’t go down the almost won route, even Spurs can lay claim to the ‘almost won’ trophy (and it sounds too much like the ‘almost signed’ nonsense we got from the man himself).

Spanishdave

CG
How dare you my Scottish team is Brechin City who have up and down to SPL like yo-yo s
I am a AM and my nice ankle leather boots have dubbin on and ready to go.
Why they call the Scottish ‘sweaties’ is a laugh because I have never seen one break sweat yet!!