Well, things are unravelling at quite a pace. No sooner had Arsenal announced that Mikel Arteta had been downed by the cursed Covid-19, Leicester, Chelsea, Bournemouth and City also leaked that they had players and staff being isolated.
The Premier League, facing pressure from all angles eventually did the right thing and announced a suspension of the season until at least early April.
This still felt a bit fantastical, but it at least kept the season alive. Today, the reality is dawning on many that the season has a very, very low chance of seeing its logical conclusion. The UK Gov scientists, whilst pushing their odd strategy of herd immunity, have declared that they don’t think we’ll be hitting Peak-Covid-19 until the middle of June. By then, any hope of rescuing the season will be well and truly buried.
So before we jump into that, the good news is Mikel has told the virus that he is disappointed in it and it’s not living up to his exacting principles of the game.
‘Of course I am disappointed, this is not how we want to play’
He’s beating it into shape and expected to make a full recovery. It’s great to see the world of football fandom supporting his recovery tweets. Look at those numbers man, outrageous.
Thanks for your words and support.Feeling better already.We’re all facing a huge & unprecedented challenge.Everyone’s health is all that matters right now.Protect each other by following the guidelines & we’ll come through this together.Well done PL for making the right decisions pic.twitter.com/0rnwHmQWha
— Mikel Arteta (@m8arteta) March 13, 2020
In Le Grove news, we had our first victim of the virus. Ernest from the comments, we all wish you and your wife the speediest of recoveries. That goes for anyone else, BIG love from this .co.uk.
So back to the Premier League.
This situation could turn into a bit of a debacle for fans, clubs and players.
Settling the League
I think we’re all fairly ok with the idea of handing Liverpool the title. It works out nicely for everyone. Obviously they won, but their fans can never obnoxiously bray about it. Firstly, they won it part-time. Secondly, they were beaten (lololol). They’ll never have full bragging rights because they didn’t finish it from a mathematically conclusive position. They’ve basically won Wembley Doubles on the technicality that the sun went down and there are no floodlights in the park… there’s also a guy in the bushes who looks like a pervert.
Imagine the song:
‘We won the league, we won the league because of Covid-niiinteeen’
The big question is what happens to the positions of the other clubs? Karen Brady has said she thinks they should be given their positions from last season.
‘Suspension or cancellation of the league was always a certainty.’
‘There is no dodging the possibility that all levels in the EFL, as well as the Premier League, will have to be cancelled and this season declared null and void because if the players can’t play the games can’t go ahead.’
This comment stands out more aggressively than a sneezer on the tube. She’s laid her stake in the ground early on. It’s very crass. But if we dig into the reality of what that would mean… it’d take Arsenal to 5th in the league and back into the Champions League.
Clubs in yellow would benefit from the PL season being voided. If City’s ban is upheld, Arsenal stand to be the biggest winners of all after finishing 5th last year. United would be among biggest losers with two trophies to play for & implications to their Adidas deal #MUFC pic.twitter.com/VHoHvVfFS2
— James Robson (@jamesrobsonES) March 14, 2020
Am I going to fight this sort of righteous thinking? Absolutely not. I kid, I kid. It’d be lunacy to dumb it down to something like that. Next years football season wouldn’t start, there’d be protests strong than Steve Bruce in that cup game, and a whole host of clubs would file legal complaints. Remember, right now 12th to 5th is only 8 points. You could literally have Everton lodging a complaint here. It might be unrealistic, but on paper, it’s far from it.
How would you decide who was relegated? 20th to 16th is currently a gap of 6 points. That is NOTHING.
Who would tell Leeds and WBA that they weren’t allowed into the Premier League next season? How do you decide the playoffs? 6th to 13th has a miserly 6 points splitting them!
It’s almost too complicated to engage with. You look at the dramz it’d cause, you wonder if there is any way they can cancel the season? Maybe they have to pick it up again. Maybe the entire football calendar globally has the chance to be resynced to something more normal. How would you feel about the season starting in January and running through the summer? I’d be down for it. Let’s fucking do it. Summer football here we come!
The money
Soooo, about the cash/money. Firstly, Arsenal are going to lose about £10m in gate receipts. Then there’s the hefty question of fan compensation. This is a force majeure, no doubt, but there are going to be a lot of fans fearing for their jobs right now, so getting a refund on a ticket they didn’t get full use out of is going to be a top, top priority.
Will football take the route of big business? The Delta CEO has given up his salary. Google are paying their contractors. Most are resisting layoffs (he says after week one). They are all keen to take a stand that keeps their businesses intact / doesn’t leave them hate figures when all this settles down. Will the club ask players to take a hit for the fans? That is a huge question. We’re not in great shape as it is financially, so how we deal with this will be interesting.
… but it gets more complicated. The TV beasts pay for sport. If the clubs don’t complete the season, the cash goes. At the minute, that looks like it could be a further £37.5m per club. That is absolutely huge if you’re any size of club, but damn, think of the small ones. How can Aston Villa absorb such a loss with money committed? Can you really ask media companies to take that on as a gesture? Will advertiser pony up to put their brands against Sky Gold Classics? I have my doubts. Every money challenge you read about has another tied to it. This is not simple.
What would be interesting is this: If TV firms ask for the money back, does that annul the contracts that have been agreed? Then does that open up an opportunity for the Premier League to take a begging bowl to Jeff Bezos or Tim Cook? That could be leverage. After all, Apple and Amazon aren’t getting into bed with content to sell ad space… they also both see the VERY long game. The rundle (recurring revenue bundle) is key to their future. Is there a better way to drive an uptick in recurring subs than Premier League football distributed through their expansive pipes? I don’t think so.
At risk staff
The final concern would be all the folk that help support Arsenal during match days. Are we doing anything for them? They don’t earn a lot as it is, but the idea that these folks have had their finances blitzed, with no other clear way to earn money is quite a nasty thought. It’s also dangerous because they are the sort of people that’ll go to work sick to pay the bills.
… challenge is this: The club is literally bleeding money if all of this goes down the pan. So again, we land in a situation where you have to look to the elite of sport and billionaires to come forward and do the right thing. If I was Josh K, I’d look at this as an opportunity to be the hero, ingratiate yourself with the fanbase, and do something that is absolutely Arsenal class. Look after those vulnerable to the shocks to the economy when times are rough.
Concluding thoughts
I think this situation is unbelievably challenging and extremely complex. I think we have to go easy on Arsenal, because however they handle this, there will be parties that are affected negatively. Regardless, I really hope we take a positive stand and lead the way on doing the right thing, especially with zero hours contract type folk… more broadly, I hope that the entire Premier League can come to a resolution that puts the safety of people first and preserves the league with integrity.
Outside that, I’m going to grab the popcorn (gloved/no sharing) and see how this plays out.
Stay safe, stay distanced, and come back often… I’ll be here daily with words and sounds. See you in the comments x
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Nice piece Pedro.
It’s going to be an absolute nightmare – there’s talk of having a 22 team PL next season but how can you void relegation, dismiss the playoffs and then hand Liverpool the title?
You thoughts on the PL going to Amazon or Apple also go the other way – Sky saying we’ve looked after you in a crises now you owe us.
Fuck knows how this will pan out.
Impact on transfer prices could be immense with lots of good players up for low prices in a fire sale. Clubs with rich owners or strong balance sheets will make hay while mugging those who can’t afford the loss of revenue
WE NEED A PODCAST
Karen Brady really is the Queen of Crass.
YES SEAN!
Any topics you want covering?
Good post pedro,
If you think the money is tied up and clubs are committed, premier league clubs will definitely suffer, but imagine what it’s like for championship clubs, league one and two or the conference clubs.
You could easily see a number of clubs go to the wall.
Still it would be funny seeing the bindippers denied the title.
Pedro
Now would be a good time to cover all the staff of Mikel Arteta ,including Steve Round ? I dont know much about his team .
They should cancel the season. Liverpool will not report any cases because they want to win the PL.The campaign already started from Phil Thompson and Jamie Carragher. Fcuk Liverpool!
Dreading all season waiting for that moment the bindippers win the title and we have the next ten years of listening to their fans going on about it.
So cancel it now and deny them., Wenger’s in with UEFA or fifa he can pull a few strings, make it happen Arsene, and you can redeem your self a bit!
Great post. What an absolute disaster.
It’s actually sad that all the panic-buying morons have most people more afraid of not being able to buy normal necessities than the actual virus itself.
(Fabulous post.) I predicted financial armageddon in the game months ago. I was a lone voice. All clubs have not covered for these types of eventualities. Certainly if our Wenger was still in charge – Arsenal finances would not be as wretched as they are now and we would be in a better shape going forward. Clubs have been overspending for years on average and unsuitable players.( inc. Wenger in his late years) Eg. Pepe and Tienrey in our case. Laughably £100 000 000 there. (That’s a hell of lot of ICU beds alone there) But we are not only… Read more »
Apart from Klopp , I wont feel sorry for absoultely any person associated with Liverpool if the PL got cancelled. As much as I hate to say it hes done a fantastic job there.
If the season ends now, anoint Liverpool the champs. They deserve it. There is no way anyone was going to catch them.
It’ll be hard to listen to LFC fans but fair is fair.
“ I think we’re all fairly ok with the idea of handing Liverpool the title”….No way f*** ng Jose! “ not on your life.Im with Brady on this one.Any other potential solutions other than voiding the season are way too complicated & in many cases unjust.In the scousers case this doesn’t apply! Tough.shit happens.I remember the season Arsenal had to play 70 odd matches crammed into days.1980 if memory serves me right .cost us big time.F*** ng ridiculous! But we had to duck it up.included two cup finals 5 days!Didnt hear the meeja luvvies & pundits weeping for us then?
I think a fair decision will be to wait till last week of April to see if the threat of Corona subsides. If it does not, then the current league table should be considered the final league table. Winners, CL participants, teams to be relegated and promoted should all be decided as if the current league table were the final one.
Finish the season when possible (behind closed doors if necessary), take a short break/transfer window of a couple of weeks and commence new season. Do away with cup comps and international friendlies and try to catch up next year ?
The players will effectively have had their summer break now and over the coming week so should not be too fatigued ?
Oh yeah.& those of you promoting handing the mickey mousers the title if the league ceases straight away.might have a rethink.back to 1985 .with their( Liverpool) antics at The Heysel stadium disaster earning all English clubs a five year ban in Europe.Everton though champions couldn’t compete.How ironic if this “ title “ is denied them.im sure Everton won’t be crying.prob dancing in the streets……
“I predicted financial armageddon in the game months ago.
I was a lone voice.”
CG wants his medal.
Alternatively,
Let VAR’s decide the outcome of all positions ! LOL !
I had COVID-19 a week ago, still in hospital cos of being careful but it’s nothing worse than a bad case of flu. Shape up world, I’ve had colds worse. As for Arsenal, it’s a shame,!in case of Arsenal staff, with Arteta, it’s not fatal. Arsenal fan since 68, Arteta fan since never. Great player, cannot pick a team or see out a game. Sack him now
If the EPL games can’t be resumed by June, I would suggest the following solution:
– Stop this season completely. The new season starts normally in August.
– The current Champions League games and Europa Cup games will resume next spring.
– This aborted season has no bearing on Champions League nor Europa Cup participation. It will return to normal based on results from next season.
– The league will be increase to 23 teams. No team is demoted. There will be playoff to decide the three teams promoted.
Great.. Kronke got his excuse to spend fuck all
I’m with Brady. Would be hilarious in these dark and uncertain times but … still utterly hilarious
Pedro, thanks man. We would hope that this opportunity could reenergize the franchise and brand, by leadership covering those workers and costs during this time of crisis. Ownership has a golden opportunity as you’ve said, to really get us all fully back and passionately engaged, by doing the things that use to make the Club so special. Be well
“Hopefully this virus can wipe out all The Spivs in the game too.”
“All because the world refused to do what was necessary in January and shut China down”
You literally only get this level of stupid in LeGrove.
After watching the Leibzig game vs. Spurs .. I would be thrilled to have
Dayot Upamenco at Arsenal . What a beast of a player !! ?? He would
secure that we would not look foolish when in Ch. Leaque..
Great post btw Pedro!
Sorry to offend Un, I’m ill and tetchy but the reality is, it was already too late in January and logistically impossible to shut a global economy down in the timeframe your suggesting.
By the time we realised what was actually going in the virus was already on the rampage.
I don’t have corona btw, winter shits which is frustrating as I’d rather get corona out of the way asap… .
Pedro
At last some common sense.
Too many people on here are suddenly “experts” and adopting “blame game”
People need to be realistic and make personal decisions on how they deal with
situation and more importantly not expose others to virus.
Football should have been closed down two weeks ago in Europe when it became crystal clear what was going on.
At the moment we are now in “self preservation mode” . That is going to be very difficult to administer, because we are all reliant on others for support in
some way.
Good post, Pedro. A ray of sensibiity in the darkening gloom.
Keep safe.
Coronavirus timeline:
– January 19: 100 cases
– January 24: 1,000 cases
– January 28: 5,000 cases
– February 12: 50,000 cases
– March 6: 100,000 cases
– March 14: 150,000 cases
Namaste
Yeah doesn’t seem like it’s going to go away in time for a bunch of millionaires to finish playing out a season does it TR7. The void/22 team for next season seems like a kinda fair outcome tbh. Maybe I dunno. One things for sure it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things whether or not the season finishes or not.
Also the downplaying of the severity of the virus is what’s gotten us to this stage. Yes by all means don’t let it turn you into a hermit but try to use common sense and be mindful of people who are at risk. Lessen the spread and wait until theres a cure. It’s all we can do. I’m mid 30’s with basically no underlying condition so I should be okay if I do get it. But what would really fucking suck is if I got it and say passed it on to an older parent or say an 8 year… Read more »
Don don’t be well Don it was always going to get out. Travel bans and walls to shut out people isn’t going to amount to much honestly. Btw a travel ban on Europe after you’ve already got cases yourselfand excluding the UK is the biggest nothing I’ve ever heard. It’s literal posturing that’s all it is.
‘I’m mid 30’s with basically no underlying condition so I should be okay if I do get it. But what would really fucking suck is if I got it and say passed it on to an older parent or say an 8 year old nephew with asthma and the like.’ Yeah that’s the thing. I am 33 so probably even if I get infected I will be okay but I getting infected puts my parents in danger if they get it from me. This is why I find downplaying of Corona absolutely ridiculous and foolhardy. The data I have posted… Read more »
Why is pasta sold out at all the supermarkets?
Im in Amsterdam and I can’t get in anywhere my sister lives in south london and she said she can’t get any.
Market shelves are cleared out here mostly in the last 2 days insane
My local Sainsbury’s have almost nothing left. Cleaning products, bread, pasta, frozen food. All wiped out by the crazies today.
Obviously we all have to be careful and help to halt the spread of this thing anyway we can, but this panic buying is just insane. More needs to be done by the government and the supermarkets to stop it.
Yeah that’s the thing. I am 33 so probably even if I get infected I will be okay but I getting infected puts my parents in danger if they get it from me. This is why I find downplaying of Corona absolutely ridiculous and foolhardy. Yeah it’s also why some of the comments from Marc recently were a bit want for a better word stupid because even if he’s going to be okay with regards to the virus either someone he knows or someone he loves might not be so lucky. Heck even if you don’t know someone imagine if… Read more »
With flour and eggs you can make lots of pasta why are people going mad ?
Mr serge that is a great question if you mean why are people buying 6 months worth of food supply in one go
Ok 200,000 cases
98 % recovery rate.
We have 25,000 people die of flu each year with vaccination.in us.
This is stupid ,
23,000 people die of septice each year, and 650 people die falling down the stairs each year.
The snowflake liberal left have taken over the world.
Thank you Facebook and twitter for fucking up our society.
Madness
‘If the season ends now, anoint Liverpool the champs. They deserve it. There is no way anyone was going to catch them.’ You don’t know that. The Watford thing could have continued. They have not won it until they actually win it. If Covid is not arrested in the next five months, there is no discussion about it, organized football as we know it is fucked. Contracts would be forcefully annulled, great footballers would suddenly have no employers, great football structures would collapse; same for all sports, but football more. After, new structures would emerge, Blackpool might suddenly be richer… Read more »
Good post Pedro
Get well soon Ernest
It’s unbelievable what’s happening right now!
Lots of conspirscy theories and blame games played around, the only fact at the moment is this virus is real and it’s causing havoc!
God knows what morbidity/mortality rate it’s going to be!
Stay calm , be sensible and follow the health authorities guidelines is the way to go for now.
“The horse has bolted”
Un, the horse bolted before anyone even realised it was actually a horse.
That’s why closing borders only slows the spread.
NEW POD IN THE POST x
‘My local Sainsbury’s have almost nothing left. Cleaning products, bread, pasta, frozen food. All wiped out by the crazies today.’
What did you expect? That’s the normal human reaction, it’s a pandemic.
Apparently you went to the store to pick a few yourself, maybe a few more than usual, eh?
Everyone who can will organize a personal lockdown in a situation like this…..better than taking death home to your uncle who bought you your first fancy car at 18.
BTW, this panic buying is not insane. It’ll help to stop the virus from spreading. Normally, everybody shops once per day. Now, they may need to shop once every 15 days. People should stay in house as long as possible.
Liverpool are close to winning their first title in 30 years and nature is trying to stop them from winning it, Coincidence? I think not. Jokes aside though, Pedro has written a great piece just when I was wondering what he could come up with. I hope everyone is well and healthy.
People really need to stop freaking out.
If anything people under 50 should go out as much as possible and catch the coronoa to get the immunity.
Whilst older people or people with immunity problems should do the social insolation tactic.
The quicker those under 50 get coronoa the better.
My sisters mate had it and was over it I’m 48 hours said it felt like a minor cold
Marko “Yeah it’s also why some of the comments from Marc recently were a bit want for a better word stupid because even if he’s going to be okay with regards to the virus either someone he knows or someone he loves might not be so lucky” Actually I’m asthmatic so I’d be classed as having a higher risk of complications than someone my age usually would have. The main point I’ve pushed is panic is not going to help anyone – in fact it’s dangerous and will make the situation worse. The debate about how countries respond is opinion,… Read more »
Un, firstly the first cases were in December so by jan it was way too late and with a potential 14 day incubation it probably started some time in November. “Even if they did it would have been minimal and easily contained” What like how the uk has gone from a couple of cases to 1000s in just a few days, as you say, easy to contain. What your basically suggesting is we shut down one of the worlds biggest economies every time a new virus is found until we know how bad it is, and you say I’m taking… Read more »
Un, are you being deliberately obtuse?
Biggest spreader is air travel, the virus lands in one destination in a freshly primed herd of travellers and is perfectly placed to spread to 10-15 other countries once its settled into it’s new home in the departure lounge.
1 person leaves infected and its spread, it really is that simple.
As the virus is highly contagious, all shutting borders does is slow the spread.
Un Concern is not buying enough food to feed 30 people for 6 months. Concern is not buying up 300 or 400 loo rolls. I’m not saying this isn’t an issue I’m saying some people are massively over reacting – the reason this is dangerous is because it starts a feedback loop that just grows exponentially and becomes self feeding. You think my reaction is so fucking what – you’re so wrong my reaction is if people keep going mental it’ll clog up the NHS and deny care to those who will need it most. I said last Saturday or… Read more »
“1 new death in India: a 68-year-old woman who had come in contact with her son who got infected after travelling to Switzerland and Italy last month”.
Just read this. This probably my worst fear right now. Unknowingly endangering your parents lives.
Once a month my wife and I go to Costco on Saturday early in the morning and do our monthly shopping. Today was the day. We arrived at the opening hours 09:00. We literally had the last place at the car park. We had to queue for the entrance. One woman told us she came early at 08:00 and there was already a queue. Costco rationed the toilet paper, kitchen roll, hand wipe, hand sanitizer to one per purchase. One person was asked to leave because he threw a punch when told that he had give back his extra toilet… Read more »
Un
As this place is not going to have any football to talk about for the next few months I’m really looking forward to your “ways to live without buying anything that was made or contains something that was made in China” piece.
Mate – you are bordering on hysterical – did you say the other day that you are a millennial?
You’re really making the case for those that laugh at the snowflake generation.
Valentin
Mate that’s exactly what I’m talking about.
I’ve made a point of keeping a bit of extra food in the house in case I have to self isolate but I bought a bag of chicken breasts and a couple of tins of soup.
It’s scary what would happen in this country if a genuinely doomsday scenario happened.
At a rate of mortality projected to be 3%, If the whole world consisting of 7.8 billion people were infected it would come around to 234 million people. Even if everyone did their best from now on and reduced the mortality rate by half It would still come to over a 100 million people That would lose their lives. It’s hypothetical but still an Insane number if everyone got infected.
Un Actually Italy restricted flights very early in their outbreak – the problem was they didn’t then put in any sort of plan to oversee what then happened – apparently Northern Italy get’s more tourists from China than anywhere else in Europe so the virus had a foothold before anyone even realised there was a problem. Also the reason I can say you’re hysterical “Point out anything I’ve posted that isn’t true or eat your words Mark with C” Marc is my name – the fact you’re getting so wound up that you’re highlighting the spelling of it just shows… Read more »
My sisters mate had it and was over it I’m 48 hours said it felt like a minor cold
I love people who have stories like this as if to downplay what’s going on. It’s great that that person thought it felt like a minor cold unfortunately he could spread it to someone where that minor cold feels like drowning or worse. But anyway. I’m not all for the mass hysteria either but is it hard for people to be sensible and conscientious in this day and age? Yes because most people are stupid and ignorant.
Habesha
It’s not quite that straight forward though – it’s reckoned that the mortality rate amongst the general population is less than 1%, amongst young children it’s zero so far (and this is the most important number so I hope for everyone that remains the case) but among the elderly especially those with pre existing conditions it’s far higher.
Therefore globally in a worst case scenario countries where the age demographic is weighted to higher number of old people would see far more deaths – countries with younger populations will see less.
Marko
I’m not sure it’s an intelligence thing we just seem to live in an age where people enjoy playing the victim for attention.
On the other hand you’ve only got to look at the historic number of “end of the world’s going to happen” and it could just be same old same old.
“I’m suggesting we regulate one of the most corrupt and dangerous nations in the world as we can’t trust them to tell the truth”
Now we’re getting somewhere…..
Un
My Mum’s in her 70’s – I’ve already had a conversation about if this continues about me doing shopping for her, dropping it on her doorstep and leaving so there’s no contact.
The most important people in the world to me are my brothers kids – if this was hitting kids I’d be going fucking mental but as it is “getting yourself worked up into a lather” as the older generation would say is not going to help anyone.
Un
Wake up to what? It’s all over the news I doubt there’s anyone in the UK who isn’t’ aware of the outbreak.
The problem is you can’t handle that I’m not going berserk.
I tell you what let’s talk about how everyone’s going to die – that’ll sort it all out won’t it?
Un
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2020/03/12/italy-banned-flights-from-china-before-americait-didnt-work/#4cd279f6481b
I’m talking bollocks – that’s Forbes doing a piece on it.
If we’re lucky and enough of us survive I’m going to arrange a collection to buy you a pair of testicles for Christmas.
Un
I’d love to see what a psychiatrist makes of your comments. I reckon the term “hysterical little girl” would be mentioned.
It’s a genuine medical condition.
“Elaborate and stop attempting to seem mysterious”
“I’m considered a right wing racist nazi”
Un
What else can I do other than be chilled? I’ll keep up to date with the news and government advice, I’ll keep a healthy supply of beer in the house and I’ll fucking whinge endlessly about how Corona virus has fucked up all the sport I’d planned to watch.
Can’t do anymore than that.
Un
Nah I accept reality I can just deal with it.
What will happen will happen. There will be mistakes and decisions that although seemingly right at the time and made with good intentions in hindsight will turn out to be wrong. There will also be decisions that you are advocating that will turn out to not have the desired effect.
Mr serge…
Loved the flour n eggs approach…
Yer right…
Give us more simplistic food ideas
Ain’t taking the rise … really made me chuckle… cos it’s so true.,.
“It didn’t work in 1940 ”
Actually it did thanks to the heroic sacrifices of “The Few”, the work force that kept them supplied with ammo etc and the population at large who had a resolution to keep going no matter what.
Un
You don’t know that – the measures other countries are taking could end up being far worse in the long run.
It’s also 21 people – it’s terrible and sad but all of those whop have died have been over 60 and in “at risk” groups.
The fact is 99% of those who will die from this over here will be on a when and by what not an if basis.
I know you don’t like that and you think I’m a nasty bastard but it’s reality. You need to be able to take the emotion out of this.
“It was the Luxury of a consensus objector”
What? I don’t even know what that’s supposed to mean.
Marc
You may well think it’s moronic…
But I think they are covering up..
They have flem on there hands.
Commie cunts.
Un
You can call me a cunt all you like.
You’re a fucking hysterical halfwit. I’m not saying I’m glad people are dying from this, I haven’t said we shouldn’t be careful – you can’t handle that I’m not being stupid.
I’ve had this with you – it amazes me that you’ve managed to cope with life so far. Fuck knows what will happen if you’re ever faced with something that’s in your face.
Just goes a long way to explaining why the world’s in the state it is.
RSPC
If the Chinese had developed this to “cull” their population don’t you think they would’ve made it so it killed more than 3,000 out of 1,400,000,000?
That’s why it’s fucking stupid.
Un
What part of don’t be a cunt is so hard for you to understand.
I really can’t debate with someone who’s so emotional and fucked up – so you don’t like me – I couldn’t give a fuck, you think I’m a nasty man – so fucking what.
You need to put your energy into worrying that the sun might not come up tomorrow rather than irritate me.
Un
“I wish you well and hope you and all yours are safe and sound”
And the same to you and yours – I’m not wishing for anyone to die and I’m so relieved that it’s not affecting kids so far – I don’t have any but my brother does.
I think it’s best we call it a night on this subject – there’s got to be plenty to discuss about how it’s just plain wrong to give the Scousers the title!
Un
No worries – we’ve talked all sorts on here before from football to music to films and have normally got on pretty well.
So I think apologies all round – no offence meant or taken.
Clean slate.
Marc
3000
Is what 5hey are putting out…
They are an unscrupulous buch those commie cents.
RSPC
OK I’ll play so what’s the actual death count in China?
If the season is over, to be confirmed obviously, does Arteta then make it clear who’s staying and who’s going? No need to ‘fatten up’ certain players who’ll be taken to market.
Does pre-season start as soon as it’s announced that the season is over? I’d like to think that it’ll suit Arteta to get the players drilled into his way of playing. Odd for the players not to have games though.
With no Euros, players are going to get a proper rest.
Will the TW stay the same?
If it’s possible for there to be a good time to get injured, Torreira’s probably nailed it!
Marc
Who knows…
That mob won’t tell the truth.
Population a problem so kill them off,
Don’t be naive about it.
Bob
There’s a load of questions we can’t answer and a load of question we haven’t considered yet.
What if the league kick off is put back next season when you have a player like Auba on a year left come June?
It’s going to be near carnage. Pedro’s covered some of the implications for us re revenue – the Spud’s have a shiny new billion pound toilet seat to pay for!
Factoid
Seasonal flu in the uk last year killed about 1000 people per week during the winter and that’s with 72% of older people being vaccinated.
The journalist want to for some reason keep the fear going to sell news items.
It’s crazy, and the snowflakes in government are buying it
Madness.
People will loose their livelihood over this shear stupidity.
RSPC
To make a difference to the Chinese population you’d have to kill of hundreds of millions – if the virus was that deadly it’d wipe out a third or more of the worlds population.
Don’t be a cunt seems a reasonable comment.
The league uncompleted is open for law suits If it ain’t finished.
Maybe finish the league when it’s all over and we may need to,adjust when the league. Is played.
Maybe
Feb till November league.
Every year.
Took a mere global pandemic’s intervention to prevent Liverpool at last hoisting that PL trophy up at Anfield.
Every cloud eh.
“The league uncompleted is open for law suits If it ain’t finished.”
When there’s a shit load of cash at stake I’ll guarantee someone will sue!
WE
Shush they haven’t found me yet!
Now see Marc
You are getting offensive …
See that’s where it rattles me…
Cunt..
Battles begun you cretin..
No need to get abusive you small bald headed cunt. With a slag of a life who claims he is a mild mannered man when really you are are in a shit life with shit friends ,
You don’t know me you cunt I will tear you apart you freak.