Arsenal announced that Mikel Arteta tested positive for Covid-19. In the ultimate kicker, it would appear he caught it from the top dog at Olympiacos after our exit from the Europa. What a stinger.
He’ll be fine, but this doesn’t bode well for the Premier League season. I hear there are quite a few other cases that will be announced in due course. The league will certainly be suspended, but it could go further, there is a belief in the game this could be it for the season.
I don’t even want to joke about the ramifications, though it is tempting.
Seems like most of the advice from around the world is that social distancing is the best way to slow the spread of the virus (and washing your hands, you animals). That advice doesn’t leave much room for interpretation, a gathering of hundreds of thousands of fans at sporting events would be the worst thing for it at the minute.
March Madness has been cancelled, along with the opening race of F1, the NBA, La Liga, Serie A, SXSW and a whole bunch of other social gatherings. The Premier League will have to follow suit and it’s hard to argue against it.
I thought this thread summed up the risk nicely– and why the ‘but I won’t die’ argument is very shitty.
The Italian College of Anesthesia, Analgesia, Resuscitation and Intensive Care just published the most extraordinary medical document I’ve ever seen.
To help people from Germany to America understand what we’re about to face, I am publishing translated extracts here.
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— Yascha Mounk (@Yascha_Mounk) March 11, 2020
It’s a shitter for the fans, but not as terrible as the thought of infecting your grandma because you grabbed beers with an infected pal at a local before the game. I don’t think anyone wants to be responsible for hospitals adopting wartime decision-making models for older people, no football game is that important.
Just a short post today, I don’t have much to add to this conversation, I’ll leave that for the experts.
All I will say is stay safe, wash your fucking hands, and get that invincible DVD in the player… it’s going to be a long couple of months.
Good luck to all backroom people at Arsenal that have been sharing his chapstick. Get well soon, Mikel!
See the rest of you in the comments x
great call to postpone city arsenal… that was prudent for sure.
Can imagine Arty hugging all the old players… massive corona spread!
As much as I dont like City, that would be a bridge too far…
Human health first….
Include Mike Dean in that high risk category
Lost a cousin this morning to the virus, barely 40 yes old.
Cringe reading Marc’s comments by the way.
Hope Arteta and Hudson Odoi recover.
Stay safe out there guys and possibly, stay indoors if you can
Sorry to hear that Bats.
I echo your feelings about Marc’s insensitive bleating.
Expect to see Johnson back track very soon on his delay implementation spinning his arse off.
Joke Friday (stolen from twitter) –
How to survive Friday the 13th:
Keep calm
Don’t go swimming
Don’t have sex
Don’t smoke
Don’t drink
Don’t go out
Don’t split up
Don’t run from the killer
If you trip, get up and run
and above all….
Turn on the stupid light before entering the room
What’s The First Thing A Sorority Girl Does On Friday The 13th?
Nothing. She’s the first to go.
Happy Friday the 13th, you crazy kids. Remember if your car breaks down on a rainy night, and you can’t get a cell phone signal, the best thing you can do is walk to the nearby derelict summer camp and split up to look for a landline and/or a place to have sex and/or smoke weed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/opinion/china-response-china.html
This was the stupidity involved with not taking the corona virus seriously. It set the tone for most countries and now everyone’s lives has to stop for a while.
Marc – “you say it’s not the end of the world “ this sort of comment is based purely around current death levels. The fact is your daily life will be significant impacted. If we are 4 weeks behind the Italian curve , in 4 weeks there will be so much out cry and chaos that we will probably lock down. Already I hear rumours that the train system is being prepared for emergency mode. Your work life will be significantly impacted . Eating out and socialising gone. The vast majority will not die of course but the effects will… Read more »
https://qz.com/1817736/china-fuels-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-blaming-us-army
It was claimed here i was a crazy conspiritory theorist
You heard it here 1st!
Coronavirus …ok get some perspective. It’s a strain of flu. Ok generally the flu only kills the weak or very old. It’s not Spanish flu (50 million deaths).
Stay calm and live your life. You will be fine if you get it aside from a week or two of nasty symptoms.
Football will return after the pandemic blows itself out.
The main “goal” of this pandemic is tighter authority and control.
Do your in depth research.
Sid, you seem to be open minded. A rare quality.
The term “conspiracy theorist ” has negative connotations.. deliberately so. it’s like the word denier…..again deliberately shutting down any alternative view in an instant.
People need to wake up.
So much for US ban on European but not on UK, Justin Trudeau’s wife caught the virus during her visit to the UK. Now her husband has to self isolate. Because of the ban most of those American who are going home in a rush from Europe are forced to use the UK as a hub. In view of the lax measure and screening in place at the Eurostar and Heathrow, I expect a fair few of them to get it and then transmit it to their love ones in the US. Traceability will be near impossible and then it… Read more »
The hysteria is doing more damage than the virus itself. Keep on panicking y’all
@marc
Agree entirely.
Have you read any of David ickes theories lately?
Would be funny if the virus did originated from a US military Athletes. Will Trump be forced to call it the US Military athletes virus? Will he see it as deep state trying to create chaos to make him lose the election?
Ah the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories!
@mysticleaves.
Indeed the panic is the real “weapon” here.
The population will panic at the slightest trigger of uncertainty……toilet roll panic buying tells you the story.
This virus is like the flu (catarrh as it’s called in Nigeria). Only just a bit harsher (for the elderly). It’s foraging Europe cos the climatic conditions is right for incubation of viruses. In the summer time people will be more resistant to it and less prone to dying of it (for the oldies).
That being said cartarh is not nice as it will render you useless for almost 1 week but then, it is what it is
Apparently there was a pandemic simulated drill in China 6 weeks before the outbreak . Just a coincidence obviously….
Wenker I didn’t see your post before doing mine. You are very correct. Only the elderly are really at risk. In Nigeria we recover from stuff like this maybe 4 to 5 days even without medication.
Many people would have gotten this virus and recovered without even knowing. Myself included. I felt very sharp flulike symptoms about 1 month back. A bit harsher than usual but nonetheless still went to work (with some medication) and it cleared up about 5 days after.
Like to add I have been in Dubai, UAE for a while now
Just a bit harsher for the elderly…lol.
Yep it’s killing em, guess that’s a bit harsher.
Exactly what hysteria are you amusing to Mystic Leaves?
Alluding to*
I don’t think that complete cancellation is necessary
We will probably need to postpone all fixtures by a month and play longer into the summer
The euros go back to 2021 to allow this to happen as all euro leagues will be in same boat
It’s a shame but we do need to keep a sense of perspective that this is not a permanent issue
If the stories are true and Covid19 came from an animal…and that animal was bought from a live market…and then consumed by a fucking savage…perhaps this is the animal’s final revenge on humans eating them.
Good. Fuck us.
However saying it is just flu is ridiculous
Firstly just flu already overlooks that flu itself is a killer
Secondly Covid19 is more contagious than normal flu and has a higher death rate per infected person
Study shows that this virus doesn’t like hot weather. So, everything should be back to normal by June. The season can resume through the Summer.
Bojangles, if people paid more attention to what was making the rounds and now how world war z is starting then maybe more would have been saved. Now you still have people going to buy 2000 rolls of sanitised papers.
Viruses take some casualties, it’s inevitable. But truth is, all these postponement, ‘brace up’, isolation messages won’t stop the virus from spreading. It will go round and then go away, occasionally reoccurring. Standard
@mysticleaves.
I’ve done a lot of background research on many world events. I’m currently reading “the trigger” by David icke.
The goal is a totalitarian one world government. That is the scary thing, not the virus, not the scam man made climate change.
You have perspective. I hope others will wake up.
All of these weirdos adopting the “Only the older people are at risk” line, remember- One day you will be getting old too. Just hope your kids and grandkids don’t grow up to be anything like you.
Northbanker, the flu like comparisons is for perspective. It’s not something we haven’t seen before is what I am aiming at. Flu kills and we have accepted it. So do we postpone life cos it flu? No. We just take precautions and medication when it flares up
Shit…my country’s first corona virus case just announced.
Then I truly hope you do not fall victim. If you did in fact have Covid and treated it as a common cold, how many people did you infect with it with your cavalier attitude.
WW, one world government is crazy shit though
Underated..
You seem to have twisted the discussion..no one wants flu and no one wants anyone to die.
People saying it’s like flu are just stating the facts…as we currently know them.
The message here is don’t panic….that’s all.
@ mystic..
Yes I kind of took a bit of convincing….
But having tried to argue against it….in that mental process..it just confirmed the theory.
Bojangles,would like to add I went for proper check up and the result came out as flu. But then, covid wasn’t a conversation. Infact it became news the following week so it could have been. But since doctor’s weren’t looking for covid then it couldn’t have come up as covid in the diagnosis. More about has flu like symptoms. Get it? So I took my med, doctor advised no need for leave and I went to work as usual.
More about = More so covid*
“People saying it’s like flu are just stating the facts…as we currently know them.
The message here is don’t panic….that’s all.”
This also
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-surprised-scientists-warn-uks-measures-dont-go-far-enough-11956731 Finally UK scientists starting to challenge the government on this The UK will be the last country in the world trying to prove a point about business as usual and ‘balanced’ measures when we have 50,000 cases coming in week after week breaking the NHS in half But I do think with enough groundswell they will hopefully listen and start to take it seriously As they said, we’re only a couple of weeks away from being in the same boat as Italy, so rather than planning for summer time research projects, we should be throttling the legs off the… Read more »
Totally agree with the not panicking and I haven’t seen any comment here that in anyway suggests people should panic but to simply say this is no different to the flu is plain wrong. It is a member of the family so to speak but the big difference at the moment is there is no known antidote for it (maybe if the yanks are responsible for spreading it, then there is.) ATM you can get a flu shot once a year and stay pretty safe, not so with Covid as yet.
Sorry about your loss Batistuta.
Bojangles, how are people recovering from the virus?
Bojangles,
It’s rumour possibly but Israeli scientists have “made” a vaccine that kills the virus.
It wouldn’t surprise me or probably anyone.
Chelsea’s full squad have gone into self-isolation after winger Callum Hudson-Odoi tested positive to the coronavirus,.
People have been eating bats, apes, snails, pork for centuries but they want us to now believe that these are the sources of pandemics?
You cannot consume pork and a few other cultural practices(wont go into that, and im not muslim) then label others “savages”
Im telling you this for free!
Hopefully all of our squad at AFC are ok and those who have the virus inc MA are ok
Of course their age and fitness should see them successfully through
They are younger healthier specimens… You obviously fall into that category otherwise you would be more concerned. Needless to say, I am part the vulnerable age group
@ un nai,
It is man made
Its goal is ultimately control by greater authority.
Problem-reaction-solution.
Bojangles, please stay safe. Everyone stay safe. Is all. Last last something must kill a man, but let it not be ignroance. All is vanity.
Sorry for your loss Batistuta
According to Marc, it’s only a few oldies that are going to die soon anyway.
Bat soup anyone?!
Vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
Un
Bats lost a cousin.
Ignore the children this topic is for adults that understand the need to hope for the best and plan for the worst.
There are people who would continue to treat this virus with levity and bravado until it sadly claims one of theirs. Then it would no longer be about the “numbers.”
Chika
Agreed
@tony
I agree we should plan for the worst..
We will beat this virus..that I’m convinced of.
The concern is for me how society will have been “shifted” to accept more Draconian measures following on from this. (Compulsory vaccinations etc..)
Us kids will be in the corner …. with my bat soup and baby mice rolls for dipping.
Oh and to some people a bacon sandwich is considered sacrilege.
… ooh time for teletubbies
Yes vast numbers of people have always eaten bats Sid but you’re going back to a time with much smaller populations, less intensive farming and virtually no global mobility. This is the 21st century and we need to start getting a grip on third world country practices, including countries that technologically are first world but still act in any ways like third world – the main example being China. USA are also in that with some of their practices (where swine flu originated)
I just knew something like this would bring Norma out. Library close soon girly.
Northbanker. Someone’s choice of food is not 3rd world for any reason. Miss me with that bullshit. As far as your meal is well prepared, have at it. Everybody must not act like everybody. The ‘first world’ aren’t exactly known for excellent eating habits either
“SidFebruary 27, 2020 09:11:20
Coronavirus is genetically engineered, it wont harm the negroid race much theres HIV, wont harm the caucasoids much they are the desirables, its to curb the Asiatics their population is worry the deep state.
You heard it here 1st!”
Both Arteta and Hudson-Odoi along with tens of thousands other white and black people are infected.
Sid, you are a dumb fuck.
I’m telling you this for free.
No one has said people should panic. Everyone here is advocating for tighter control. That’s how you stop it from infecting everyone and having death tolls of unimaginable proportions. Does any one want this to be an issue the rest of the year? It will be all about Covid 19 unless It starts to be eradicated and limited to a number of people. Economies have gone down and Its only infected over 130,000 people out 7.8 billion people all over the world. And there have been reoccurrence among people who have recovered from it. No one is suggesting people buy… Read more »
😄😄 rap
Shocked to hear that it will cost people a fortune to undergo tests in the US.
Given the importance of testing and isolation to the spread of the virus, a country like the US should really do better.
Un
Marc is the leading world authority on everything
How dare you question his judgement
Lockdown????
Jeez the cure is worse than the illness.
Lockdown, forced vaccinations are all the Orwellian nightmare in ,1984…
Sheep doing the deep states work willingly..
At least real sheep only move if the dog menaces them….some people just offer themselves up!
Raptora its about genetics, most people have mixed heritage is the point. Not about superficial black and white
I posted something about that but Kim Peh Dro removed it so wont go to details.
At least here the government seem to have a grip.on the situation. I feel safer here than I would feel living in the UK at the moment.. well at any time really.
Thanks for the wishes guys, can barely even go over to the family home as he died in Naples and movement is a bit of a bitch here in Milan. Fear is his whole family have been with him all through so trying not to panick and hoping no one else in the house has contracted it.
Kim Peh Dro😄😄
How do you people pull these off?
Sorry to hear this Bati.
Take care and best wishes to you and your loved ones.
@ un nai..
Take your point that a lockdown is not necessary.
I think testing has to be much more available….it’s simple and effective. We need to avoid the peak infection rate for the NHS to cope. If we can hold it back till June we may be in a better position.
It will be complete madness to let this EPL round go through. If Arteta got the virus through the Greek owner of Olympiacos, which sounds like the logical thing to assume, he was tested positive around 13 days after his contact with Marinakis. 13 days that he was probably carrying the virus with him probably spreading it around. In these 13 days we played vs Portsmouth and West Ham. In the same timeframe Hudson-Odoi’s Chelsea played vs Bournemouth, Liverpool and Everton. Wolves played vs Olympiacos and are probably carriers now. We are talking about 2 EPL teams that certainly have… Read more »
Batistuta fuck I’m so sorry
So fucking sorry man
No other words
They actually want many to get it as to the majority the symptoms are minor, as they want to build a ‘herd’ immunity.
The concern is the weak and elderly as they are the ones who are in the death zone for this virus.
Ozil’s fortnite numbers are going to go through the roof next week.
Don’t eat animals. Then this wouldn’t have happened.
Sorry for your loss, Bati. Best wishes to Mikel. Really unfortunate times. The human race is very negatively proud; cancer, HIV, TB, diabetes and lots of diseases they do not have a cure for. Yet the human race remains negatively proud, the only creatures that claim to have no creator. Even if you do not believe the Bible, shouldn’t you believe there is a Power, Wisdom, Knowledge and Understanding greater than that of human? Covid-19 is an unfortunate development, just like many outbreaks of diseases before that. I pray and believe that a way out will soon be found, just… Read more »
Technically it is man made or at least the fault of man.
If some Chinese savage hadn’t eaten an animal that shouldn’t have been eaten at one of these grotesque live markets…then all would have been well.
You don’t hear about pandemics coming about because someone ate tofu.
Meat is murder.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1251719/coronavirus-china-bioweapon-experiment-lab-leak-wuhan-seafood-market-spt/amp
Man made – Chinese Man made to be specific and we didn’t learn from SARS and China does what it wants
GoH dropping truth bombs
‘China should have been locked down immediately
No travel in or out. All airlines on board with it. All nations refusing entry from China apart from their own citizens who then should be quarantined.’
Un,
Almost exactly what I was saying this morning.
I think the world reacted too late.
The political leaders goofed big time on this.
@ Guns
Meat is murder – So is eating leaves. A plant dies when we eat it, it’s just that we do not hear it scream.
The very process of breathing causes us to kill living creatures. 🙂
Someone ate stuff which transmitted a bacteria for which we have no cure. It was the same for many of the stuff we ate in the past until a cure was developed.
It does cause an inconvenience to many. Hopefully they will understand on their own that their behaviour should be different as it is happening too often.
@Batistuta –
I am very sorry to hear about your loss.
Apparently the PL is holding an emergency meeting later today. Can’t see anything other than matches being called off in the short term – what they decide to do in the long term is anyone’s guess, not only de we have the remaining fixtures for this season but this will most likely run into what would be the start of next season.
Gentlebris
Not if you’re an atheist. Do spare the merciful lord stuff, it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
MGooner
Just a small point this is a virus not a bacterial infection – important to point out as antibiotics will not help against Corona.
Secondary infections are another matter.
“Just a small point this is a virus not a bacterial infection”
This is one of the issues with being stuck in hospital. I’m assuming viral pneumonia with covid-19 and yet they seem to just give antibiotics as standard.
It’s in no small part an education issue
My dad used to work in a warehouse where they would take the labels off supermarket chicken nearing its expiry and put new labels on with later expiration dates
In England we had mad cow disease from farmers feeding cows fucking meat lol
Hair
I hate to nick pick but I have issues taking an article too seriously when it describes the “source” as a seafood market where “wild animals including bats and snakes are sold” if the writer doesn’t have the sense to realise that bats and snakes are not seafood therefore it was just a market. It’s a mishmash of a story designed to scare people.
That article has come off of the Daily Expresses weird news section where they publish nut job stories about alien abductions and life after death etc.
Paulinho
That’s why I mentioned secondary infections – my point was the last thing the NHS needs is half the population turning up at the doctors demanding antibiotics because they have a cough.
Thanks Marc. I am frustrated with the fact that this happened again in China. And also frustrated by the lack of preparedness in Europe and the US. The Chinese have been significantly more efficient in dealing with the situation than any other country. The Korean are a distant second with how they carried testing, kept people isolated in their homes with monitoring using apps and telephone until hospital beds became available. And most services are free. In the US, testing costs a fortune. The healthcare system is not accessible to many. My real fear is what happens when the crisis… Read more »
Outbreaks like this are an inevitability, they happen in all animal populations and will continue to do so in humans no matter how good our responses are.
Like us, viruses evolve to suit their surroundings and every once in a while they evolve into highly contagious, virile strains.
Blaiming this on somebody’s diet or trying to say this is a bio weapon gone wrong is completely unhelpful and only serves to create division and fear. Totally unnecessary.
MGooner
Apparently Trump has cut the funding of the CDC by about 80% over the last couple of years – precisely the organisation the US needs at the moment to advise.
Marc
This is just one report, but ironic that where it all started there is a Bio Lab that has this strain within it.
It could explain how this got in to the food chain. Have you seen pics of the mkt?! 3rd world hygiene does not even come close as been in nicer underground toilets with used syringes.
Could be coincidence and was just throwing it in, not saying it’s correct.
China seems to be a law to themselves and at least 2 viruses have emanated from China to date!
Unai
Strangely viruses don’t want to kill their hosts, a dead host just kills the virus.
They actually evolve to live within them without causing too much harm, you get a bad situation when a virus encounters a population that has no level of immunity ie when European’s first arrived in South American (not as common or likely in todays world) or when a virus jumps species.
Hair
I wouldn’t be in the slightest bit surprised if the “source” was this market, unusual animals kept closely together etc. My cynicism is when it starts being linked to bio warfare labs etc.
At that point it starts to turn into an episode of the X Files and people start to panic.
Marc, absolutely.
As much as I’m uncomfortable with the herd immunity approach on a personal level I think on a practical level it’s a reasonable approach, at least until a suitable vaccine is developed.