Sh*thousing West Ham at home. What a time to be alive.

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Wooooooah, the less said about that performance, the better.

Arsenal took 3 very undeserved points at home against West Ham, the game was won with a VAR decision that overturned an incorrectly flagged offside, but the 1-0 victory didn’t disguise a ‘revert to type’ performance from a group of players that didn’t show up.

It’s easy to criticise every single line-up Arteta puts out because there’s not really an ideal starting 11. We’re a mess whatever we do and you can argue every player and their role. The one that seems to irk people the most is Auba out wide, especially when we have options on the left like Martinelli. I also think we debate the midfield over and over, but the reality is, we just don’t have a lot of good choices.

We were awful today, that was the most important thing to note. The midfield struggled to keep to West Ham at bay, the spacing between midfield and defence was off, and there were a lot of very poor lapses in defence. We are not a creative team, there’s no spark, no magic, no nothing. It’s painful to watch. It’s also interesting that the heavy pressing has gone, with the penny dropping for another manager that the squad aren’t fit enough to deliver on that without dramatically poor second-half performances (or injuries).

It is telling that we’re back to Bernd Leno being the MOTM again. He made some crucial saves, commanded his area well and took high-risk chances in tough situations. He was very quick off his line. It’s simply not good enough that we’re battered at home by West Ham.

More worrying is that moving forward, we just weren’t at the races. No one seemed to find their range when it mattered. We took too many touches, made the wrong choice, or just fucked up the momentum in attack.

Dani Ceballos had a great game from a numbers perspective. He made the most successful tackles, he had the most interceptions, his passing was fairly accurate, but to my earlier point, we didn’t make it count for anything. Our front three managed 2 shots on target. That’s miserable, especially when you look at the players we have at our disposal.

Still, when it comes down to it, the thing that matters most at the moment is the 3 points. We took them. Auba fired a speculative ball into legs, the ball looped up, Mesut Ozil was sharpest, he nodded a header to Lacazette who swept home a clinical shot. The players thought it was offside, the lino did too, but after 37.5 minutes of painfully nerdish deliberation, VAR called it a goal.

It was a bit embarrassing to win that game, but we kept up the pressure in the league and now we find ourselves right in the hunt for top 4. At the time of writing, there are 5 points between Arsenal in 9th and 4th (6 points if you go to 10th). Win our game in hand and there will be two points. It is staggering that this season has been so terrible to us, yet we’re a fluke win at City from being deeply in the top 4 hunt.

On the players, bar a bit of an iffy attempt at a clearance in the first half, Pablo Mari looked pretty solid. The worry in the league is always that you’ll be beasted by hulking thug forwards. He dealt with West Ham’s aerial threat pretty well today, he also won 3 out of his 5 aerial duels. He’s a good passer, he has a bit more pace than we thought, and he’s very composed. A solid Premier League start and his second clean sheet in 2 games. Let’s see how he copes on Wednesday.

Mesut Ozil was the decisive factor in the game, his quick thinking and cushioned header turned the game. He worked really hard, watching him lead the press in the final 20 was a sight to behold. He’s lost a lot of edge with his game-changing passing. He just hasn’t looked very confident of late… it seems odd that a player can lose the sparkle, with him, you do wonder if he’ll ever return to what he was.

Overall, our midfield was poor. We lack power and a tempo setter. Ceballos had good moments, but it didn’t feel synced to the wider team. We created next to nothing, Arteta has to find a way of addressing that in the coming games if we’re to stand a chance of making the most of this top 4 race.

Reality is that we’re still shit and I have little hope that we’ll surprise anyone on Wednesday, but it’s nice to hope, and it’s nice to know that everyone else around us is just as capable of failing as us. The mighty Nuno dropped points, United will have a tough game against City tomorrow and Spurs just went a goal down at Burnley.

Who knows what will happen… but it’d be very funny if we shithoused to top 5.

 

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alex cutter

“A little bit of me died that day…”

Your anus?

Ishola70

Pepe is very raw isn’t he for a 75m signing and a 24yo.

The way he plays reminds me of a teenager.

Sure he can be a match winner and exciting to watch but I was expecting a more mature player for his transfer price and age.

Thorough

I’ll rather be here bemoaning a lackluster performance after a win than another glorious failure. Long may it continue.

Champagne Charlie

Habesha

Can you let me know what Torreira brings to the table over Xhaka?

Guendouzi is in the doghouse because of his attitude, he might be talented but it appears he’s doing his level best to burn his bridges here with petulance.

You don’t pander to that unless you’re a weak character, which probably explains his 50 appearances last season ay.

Marc

Nice post Pedro and good to see you taking a sensible view of how we did today.

One piece of information that wasn’t available to fans at the time – the VAR guy didn’t take an age to make the decision on the goal – he’d got bored and gone to the gents, once he was back it only took him 15 seconds to call the goal.

Marc

“Can you let me know what Torreira brings to the table over Xhaka? ”

Well he doesn’t give me a near heart attack every time he goes near the ball but I don’t think CC cares about that!

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Saying on radio that auba has seldom scored on a Saturday.

Also sok at rb on weds is a deffo no go
Amn or Soares
I would go amn

Ishola70

Don “How many players can you name that can dribble through entire premier league defences before then dribbling back through them again and keep the ball?” This is his problem Don. There is no need to for double back dribbling. It might entertain but this is not a seal show at the water park. It’s about being effective in your play. Of course he will score an absolute wonder goal at some point with this style of play and people willl go potty but nine times out of ten it will be more about wrong decision making and moves breaking… Read more »

David Smith

Spurs have been sold a pup, a sickly pup who is going to be very costly to get rid of, and who might do untold damage to his home before he goes

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Again xhara under his 4th arsenal manager has failed to do the basics with any confidence

Think art bubbling him up is a way to get a decent price

He will be sold in June
Can guarantee that.

Also Zac medely an the boy Lopez should get run outs next season.

Mari n Lopez…our Spanish armada

jwl

I started supporting Arsenal in 1995 – Bruce rioch season – and singing ‘one nil to Arsenal’ was still a thing. I don’t mind one nil wins but that was dreadful today, we use to win 1-0 with style, panache, now not so much.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Mr Smith

Are you referring to the 63m man..

Marc

Pedro

I’ve been emailed a great piss take image of Mourinho but I can’t copy and paste it into a comment – what’s your email address so I can forward it and you can stick it in a post?

Marc

That’s so predictable!

David Smith

No RSPC, referring to the guy who is manages him and seems to be destroying what was once a decent player .
Penny for Levy’s thoughts , as you mention, that’s an expensive player

Danny

10 games to go but only 4 of those are at home therefore the players are going to have to make some real effort for all those away games.

Marc

Danny

Yeah but the away games include City, Wolves, Southampton and the Spud’s so that’s an easy 12 points to take. The other two might be more tricky!

Danny

Marc

Those final 10 games are all going to be hard, maybe we’ll get lucky like last season where those above us all messed up, of course we’ll have to take advantage of that unlike last seasons enormous cock up.

Marc

Danny

I know I was taking the piss on the away games!

The good news is the teams we are competing with have tough matches as well.

Thorough

Pedro.
Agreed.
I’m expecting nothing from City and Pool matches.
Wolves, Leicester and the other minnows are the must win games.
Then we’ll see where we are by then.

Nelson

These two games, against Olympiakos and West Ham were reality check. The strength of our team is closer to a mid_table team than a top 6 team. If luck is on our side (Auba finishing his chances and Leon playing our of his world), our team may come close to the fifth or sixth position. With this current squad, there is a limit of what a manager can do.

RockyRoe

I’ll lose my shit if we don’t try martenelli, auba and pepe against city.

It would be a perfect setup as we would be defending most of the game and would rely on fast counters to nick a goal or 2 and God willing 3.

Wasi

Arteta might want to play with a link-up striker ala Giroud but that doesn’t mean nkhetia or laca are any good at it, as such it makes more sense attacking wise to play your best players in there best positions until you find a quicker Giroud. Horses for courses n all that.

RockyRoe

On pepe the dude has to work a little on his right peg. He would beat 2 defenders around the box but never to go the byline to deliver a cross as he doesn’t trust his right foot to stand on. So inevitably he would then cut inside to either take a shit or put a cross in with his left. Every 2 bit defender would start showing him onto his right foot pretty soon, even a couple of misplaces crosses early on with his right might give the defense a little to think about because right now, I know… Read more »

Pierre

For a team that’s unbeaten away since November and unbeaten in the league this year and taking into consideration that we were regarded as relegation candidates back in November, one would think that the manager and players would receive some credit for turning our season around. If the players are as bad as what I keep reading from many on here, then I would presume those same people must think Arteta is some kind of genius for taking these “poor” players on such an impressive run. The thing is, they can’t have it all ways , either the players and… Read more »

Nelson

Going to City, I would try a 1-4-5 formation. I would have Pepe moving along the half way line getting ready to start a track meet. Once we intercept the ball, just kick the ball for Pepe to chase.

Brooklyn

Good on Laca scoring goal.

As soon as he came West Ham were all over us. No holdup play, no running in behind, no running in channel. West Ham just pushed higher up as Laca is no threat outside the penalty box.

Calypso

Well said Pierre., I’m with you 100%.
The manager is doing a fantastic job in making the gunners the new invincibles…

azed

Ndombele was supposed to dominate the EPL. Gambon and Marko were all over him but his first season has been poor.

Would anyone here take him for 40M?

PS: I know they’re not going to sell him to us.

Ernest Reed

Seriously Pierre, you saw a very different match than what as on display today. Truth is and was and will be, take the 3 points and run for the hills. If not for Leno today, the discussion is very different. Bottom line, you are so full of shit Pierre, there is a whole new meaning for what you describe as both reality and “reality”, run to the hills you false prophet. This Arsenal team, regardless of all that Arteta can provide and offer, is as bad as bad can be as slow as slow can be. In short, really are… Read more »

Ernest Reed

City is going to beat the living crap out of this slow bunch, end of.

RockyRoe

Pierre
zpersonally, I think we have found a way to win football matches and have become difficult to beat

What are on about? West ham could have had 3 if nit fot piss poor finishing

Ernest Reed

Honestly, today exposed an Arsenal squad that was horribly slow afoot, pretty much all of them minus but two (Pepe and Eddie). If this is what you have to offer versus City, oh jeez…

Pierre

My 2 bobs worth on Pepe is….. having no right foot is not a problem. Going back to probably our best left footed player ever Liam Brady, he had no right foot but it didn’t hinder him in the slightest. Brady did play in the middle so he could drop his shoulder and go pass players on the right side but he would always keep the ball glued to his left foot. Pepe would be a different player if he had someone of the calibre of Saka on his side overlapping to create space for Pepe to attack a defender… Read more »

Pierre

Ern
“Pierre, a fast walk off a short Pier does not even describe the crap you write day in and day out. Do everyone a favour, just do one you miserable sack of you-know-what.”

Nice one , I write positive things about the club I support and you class me as miserable.

Ernest Reed

“Wooooooah, the less said about that performance, the better.”

Ya think Pedro? That was about as good as Arsenal gets these days. Geez that was an escape that even Houdini might be decently proud of…only he wouldn’t.

Ernest Reed

Pierre you are miserable, every single day. You see an Arsenal that just does not exist.

Ernest Reed

“My 2 bobs worth on Pepe is….. having no right foot is not a problem.”

Your two bobs and sally’s should fricken drown you, Pierre. You are as daft as you are foolish. You know shit al, about football, you sad excuse of an old man. 1975 is…1975! Stop living in the past.

Ernest Reed

Every flipping day you post the same shit Pierre, the same SHIT! Enough already, the Arsenal you seek died an awful long time ago. Live in the now already!

Pierre

Ernie
“Seriously Pierre, you saw a very different match than what as on display today”

Show me a line where I have said something about today’s match that you regard as so “very different” .

Pierre

Earn
“Your two bobs and sally’s should fricken drown you, Pierre. You are as daft as you are foolish. You know shit al, about football, you sad excuse of an old man. ”

I’ll leave the rest of Le Grove to read the above comment to decide who is ” daft and foolish”.

Ernest Reed

“The common consensus on le Grove is that these players are not capable of playing creative , attacking football…. I disagree.If wenger could get players like ozil, xhaka, mustafi , Lacazette, Aubameyang, bellerin etc playing entertaining football then i see no reason , with the addition of players like Pepe, saka and Ceballos, that we can’t play one and 2 touch football , one twos around the box and be more expansive.” This is the biggest pile of shit ever written, ever!!! You should be summarily slapped and pissed on for this and so many more crap laden nonsensical statements,… Read more »

Ernest Reed

You can never have a salient discussion without even the mere mention of Wenger, Pierre. And you want to seriously be taken as serious? Seriously?

Ernest Reed

“I’ll leave the rest of Le Grove to read the above comment to decide who is ” daft and foolish”.”

You are already behind the moment you write anything, Pierre. Its a natural digression with you.

Ernest Reed

Arsenal were slow afoot and horrible today, Pierre. If not for the fact that West Ham were West Ham…Take the 3 points and run today. Not much about their performance was worth 3 today. Only you would find something positive in the shitshow on display today. West Ham for crying out loud!

Pierre

Now I get it ern …you’re a wenger obsessive..

A mere mention of his name is enough set you off into this irrational behaviour .

Dissenter

azed
Ndombele, like Pepe is just having the typical adjustment struggles that Ligue un imports tend to have.
He will be on steroids next season…same as Pepe.

Dissenter

Pierre
Do you have a direct line to Ozil?
Tell him t6o shoot more often, he used to do that a lot when he was younger.
Otherwise, he’s stepping up bigly.
Your boy Nkettiah needs to go back to the sub bench though. He shouldn’t get starts so easily …he has to justify every start. He’s not doing it right now.

Pierre

Ern
I never mentioned today’s game in my comment .

You don’t have to tell me that we were shit today , I know.

Pierre

Dissenter
You need to stop flip flopping about Eddie.

A couple of days you agreed that with me me , now one performance where he doesn’t score and you change your tune.

Be consistent in your views and you will be more respected.

Just like earnie respects my views …

Pierre

We can get a result at city.

It’s a bit of a free hit for us as it’s our game on hand .and nobody is expecting us to win.

Arteta will go shit or bust with an attacking line up and will try and take the game to City …

Ernest Reed

“If people literally believe in squad poverty and that we genuinely are relegation fodder, the should be over the fucking moon that we’re a 4-0 win away from 5th.”

We were really shit today, Pedro. Take the 3 and run. Its not about “squad poverty” its about really being as bad as we were today. The fact that Arteta can get what he gets from this lot, amazing to be honest, they really are as bad as perceived and seen.

Ernest Reed

“We can get a result at city.”

You really think so?

Ernest Reed

I honestly see City taking this piss out of us. Flatter to deceive we have been pretty much all season. I love what Arteta brings, but a lame horse is always a lame horse. This team is as slow as slow gets, painfully so.

Ernest Reed

“Now I get it ern …you’re a wenger obsessive..”

No, actually you are Pierre, painfully so.

Ernest Reed

“Though I do feel Pep is coming with extra sauce for that game. If we defend like we did today, we’re toast.”

Benchmark statement of the season, Pedro. What shall it be? Arteta has a hand dealt to him from the get go. What shall it be?

Ernest Reed

“Arteta will go shit or bust with an attacking line up and will try and take the game to City …”

Pierre, if we bring today’s effort to the city match, they will eat us for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Arteta (bless the bugger) can do whatever he wishes, a shit Sandwich is still a shot Sandwich… and right now Arsenal are…a Shit Sandwich!

Nelson

I want the team to play even slower at City. I want the game to come to a halt and we’ll leave with a 0 – 0 score.

Ernest Reed

BTW, I’m now pretty much forced to stay at home these days – COVID-19 has drawn its stance in my neighbourhood with 3 people diagnosed. Having Police and ambulances at your doorstep telling you to stay indoors is as real as it gets.

LeGrove may be my solace and distraction for the foreseeable. Never thought to see the day that i could not leave my own home..,

Cheney10

The key issue we have is a lack of runners in the middle of the park. I do not think you need a Xhaka type player if you have Ceballos. Far too often, Xhaka would pull left, or get ahead of Ceballos and do nothing, no runs etc. due to his lack of recovery pace. Not once did he give and go, burst past Ozil or any other advanced player who had the ball. This creates issues as other than Saka down the left, we have no one running past the player with the ball. Therefore, the ball goes backwards… Read more »

Aussie Gooner

Many years ago my family were on a boating holiday on the river Thames. We were moored by the bank for lunch when a hire cruiser started turning in circles in the middle of the river at full throttle. The idiot at the helm was swinging the wheel round and round. It was obvious that the cable to the rudder had snapped. My dad shouted out to the idiot “Would you like us to tow you to the shore?” Just then a combination of the flow of the river and the wind set the boat in the desired direction. The… Read more »

Ernest Reed

“Don’t think it’ll be a mauling whatever happens. Nothing points towards that, we’re a lot more solid and hard to beat than we were under Big Unai”

Agreed, we are tougher to concede against these days, but geez are we slow afoot, obviously so. This is what concerns me moving forward.

Ernest Reed

Yep Pedro, the play by play today were non-stop,about our obvious lack of movement in our midfield. Neglect is neglect and has been for some time now.

Ernest Reed

The Kids are great, Pedro. No worries there, but the core is troubling as was obvious today. Question, would you take up the option on Dani, based on what you’ve seen so far?

peanuts&monkeys

Watched only first 10 mins after breather. Cant comment on the game except Xhaka is as jackass as he can be. He is the biggest drag. Thank you boys for not losing. Boys, with Arteta around I won’t be expecting interesting stuff from you. The world will always to know which was more boring: arteta as manager OR Arteta as a player. No wonder Arteta is a Xhaka fan.

Leno is a hero.

Ernest Reed

“This weird idea people have that Arteta loves this squad is so off the mark… he’s just trying to get to the summer in the best shape possible.”

Bingo, bango, bongo! Arteta is indeed working within his means. Given a summer of “adjustments “ he will have more or less the gest of what he dan work with.n as i have stated enough times, Arteta is the least of Arsenal’s challenges. He represents the future, one of hope and progress… love the way he approaches the Game!

peanuts&monkeys

Not for the goal he scored tonight. But this RB malaise at Arsenal can be most effectively cured by Achraf Hakimi.

Ernest Reed

Geez is the keyboard a weird thing…”he will have more or less the best of what he can work with”

Ernest Reed

Pedro, you and i are pretty much of the same with respects to Arteta- he needs time and more than that, he deserves time to bring out the best of an otherwise pretty mediocre squad. Anything less would be grossly unfair.

Cheney10

Pedro… Zakaria would be an excellent addition and in my mind would replace Ceballos or free Ceballos (if he stays) to go and play further up field to make those bursts past players holding the ball that would make us more dynamic going forward. However, Ceballos also lacks pace and will leave massive holes behind. I’m not sure who is out there on our budget, who would come without, realistically, CL football or if there is a kid who could fill the teams need. Maybe another scouting post could answer this question?

Ernest Reed

“However, Ceballos also lacks pace and will leave massive holes behind. ”

He may lack pace Cheney, but his vision on the pitch somewhat makes up for it. Yes he is slow afoot, but his sense of awareness makes up for it. Not ideal, but the midfield somewhat needs him these days as creativity is lacking beyond Ozil.

Ernest Reed

I only hope that management can match his ambition Pedro, otherwise Arteta will sadly be a wasted prodigy.

Gonsterous

We are a point behind spuds with a game in hand. Sadly that game in hand is against city.

Last night’s result was great but judging by the way we played, we won’t make top 4 this season. We were terrible, and west ham should have been 2-0 in the first up, if it wasn’t for dodgy finishing.

Don’t expect city to miss those chances.

Guns of SF

Take any player from wolves or Leicester or palace.

Technical and work horses

Epl tested and fighters

Ernest Reed

Maybe its just me, but geez does VAR take the piss out of the game. The goal today should have been so much more, but one could hardly celebrate as it took agonizingly long to decide the obvious. Its got to improve?

Gonsterous

Also can we put the debate to bed that aubas best role is on the wings?
He can’t dribble, can’t cross, can’t cut in and shoot.

Why put the tap in merchant as far away from goal as possible?
Should have bought on mArti ( I know laca got the goal) for nketiah and put him on the wings and auba centrally.

The guy was a gassed by the 75th min.

Dissenter

Pierr4 Do you think Eddie played well today? Do you think he should continue to start over Lacazette in perpetuity? Unlike you, I’m not irreversibly bound to one opinion. Every player should get minutes based on their performance and Eddie isn’t exactly justifying these starts now. He needs to take the opportunities that come his way because there are Lacazette and Martinelli waiting on that opportunity too. I didn’t even bash his quality in the post that seem to get you fired up. By the way I’m not seeking any type of respect or validation here so I don’t really… Read more »

Dissenter

Ernest
I think you should distinguish between VAR and the premier league abuse of the process.
It is killing the game. I don’t think we would have those iconic footballing moments that are seared into our memories if these lot of officials had been in charge.
The referee ninth Southampton vs Newcastle game used the VAR monitor and it was so refreshingly straight forward.

Ernest Reed

The fact that officials on the pitch appear paralyzed towards making decisive decisions is reason enough to be more than concerned, Dissenter. We are now left watching even the most basic of decisions being left for VAR to decide. I could always live with a referee making a questionable call, but now they wont even try – thats not football any longer and begs the obvious, why even have on field officials?

Ernest Reed

“We saw him run with the ball for thirty yards and score the other week.”

And we saw him a couple of seasons ago get caught up by, of all people, Vincent Kompany at the Emirates on an otherwise clear breakaway. Point is, he is not ideal but you are right – thats just how it is, take the t or leave it.

Ernest Reed

Take it or leave it…damn keyboard

Emiratesstroller

Last season I described our defence as poor and the midfield as unbalanced. This season I relegated our midfield as weak. That was apparent in yesterday’s game and in many other games this season against teams we would could consider to be inferior to ourselves. Ozil is still an intelligent and technically gifted player, but unfortunately he lacks the commitment and energy levels or for that matter the end product, which made him in the past a very fine player. Apart from him there is nothing in this department of our squad, which is remotely of the standard to compete… Read more »

Wasi

Rockyroe ‘Arteta might want to play with a link-up striker ala Giroud but that doesn’t mean nkhetia or laca are any good at it, as such it makes more sense attacking wise to play your best players in there best positions until you find a quicker Giroud. Horses for courses n all that.’ Laca’s link up play is very good. Last season we were comparing him to Firmino due to his build up play. Its obviously not that good but its good enough for a top 4 team. This season he has been poor all around , agree to that… Read more »

Zimmie2652

“Ernest, really struggling to see why anyone needs to piss on Pierre for stating the obvious.If our players are total shit and Arteta is getting a win today, then we should be happy. That’s the positive. If people literally believe in squad poverty and that we genuinely are relegation fodder, the should be over the fucking moon that we’re a 4-0 win away from 5th.”

Pedro, I’m sure it is not needed to be pointed out but kinda tough to get a 4-0 win when you can only muster 2 shots on goal.