Hey, did you hear? Roy Keane has had a thought.
‘When I was watching it I thought they were 10 points clear in the league the way they were celebrating. ‘No, forget Arsenal. Way over the top celebration for beating Newcastle 4-0. Ridiculous.’
Well I’ll be damned, if there’s ever a person in the world of sport ready with a hot take about joy, it’s gotta be the Irishman. That this sort of commentary still interests people is staggering. It’s so boring.
For me, the best part about the celebration was seeing the players happy again. Lacazette is obviously very highly thought after by the players and it was great to see them all launch at him after 7900 minutes without a goal. Good for them, enjoy life, fuck Roy.
In ‘two drunk uncles fighting’ news, Unai Emery and Arsene Wenger are at it in the press. It’s like two reimagination titans duking it out to see who can fool those lying eyes harder.
This was Emery: “Arsenal was a club on a downward slope for two years before I arrived.
This was Arsene: “In 2017 we made 75 points and won the FA Cup so you cannot say that [Arsenal were in decline] and the year before [2016] we finished second in the league,”
“2018 was my last year but it is very difficult to come out on that.
“Arsenal is a club that is in a very strong position financially. It has good players, after that when you are a manager you have to stand up for what you do and your result and not look around you.
Oof… Arsene, just stop.
I liked that Arteta just pretended he’d not read Emery’s comments. Classy.
Pablo Mari played his first 45 in an Arsenal shirt for the U23 team, dropping a very solid performance according to the nerds that watch those games. It’ll be interesting to see whether he actually starts on Thursday, quite the risk this early, even if it is light opposition.
Robbie Burton, hot prospect from last season, has been shipped off to Dinamo. I cant see what the fee is, but one would assume he must have been told he was surplus to requirements to move to a fairly obscure league. Good luck to him, I love to see British kids moving abroad to land the game time they need in their formative years. Interesting to see that Marcus Mcguane was being touted with a move back to Forest after failing to break into the Barca B team on a consistent basis.
Manchester United kept the race for top four nice and alive, OGS putting Frank Lampard’s team to the sword 2-0 in a VAR controversy fest for the ages. I think the win was ideal for us, the pack is now very tight, just 7 points separate 10th and 4th. I still think it’s a huge ask for Arsenal, but it’s not beyond the pale to suggest a team that dropped a 22 game unbeaten run 18 months ago could do the same again… still feels unlikely though, but we’ll see.
I also think glorious failure of both clubs works for us. United won’t fire OGS if he finishes a close 5th, Chelsea won’t fire Frank if he’s there or thereabouts. Last thing we need is Poch at either of our rivals.
The game on Sunday will be a major test, the ‘SHOULD HAVE BEEN CARLO’ fanboys will be waiting with bated breath to see if he can turn us over. It’ll be a tough home game, no doubt, but it’s one we simply have to win if we want to stand a chance in the league this season.
Right, short post today, I’m off to Virginia… my first time. Make sure you listen to the podcast though, the sound is so spot on it brought a tear to my eye.
Pablo Mari played with the U23s yesterday, did anyone watch the game?
CG
2020?!!?
😂😂😂
Go back another 10 years(at least) and you’ll know how I and many others feel.
Bob
No contradiction. I said that that’s the “optimistic” realist view. I’m realist through and through, though — maybe even something of a pessimist — so I don’t see that happening. But if I were one of these wishful-thinker thinkers, that’s the finish I would have my eyes on.
Bamford you say Chelsea and utd are much better than us but the table doesn’t lie.
Both have been pissing away points for fun all season because the reality is that neither are especially good. We’ve just been a bit worse
If only a couple of our trash results had gone differently, or indeed if we hadn’t been robbed by the ref last time against Chelsea, we’d be right up their asses right now
We’ve been awful and had our worst season since forever and we’re still not far behind. How can they be ‘good’ with that in mind?
Arsenal will win the EL, im saying this not for the 1st or last time, we will be in the CL next season. Tierney will be at LB and Saka left wing in the final.
You heard it here 1st!
Pedro
Nice Post.
The Carlo Fan boys are already here. Just ignore them. Lacazette had a good goal against Everton the last time we played them at the Emirates .
It will be tough but arsenal will triumph.
I am telling you this for free.
You can’t knock what Roy Keane achieved as a player and as a captain. Plus he played under Clough and Ferguson, which is no mean feat. However his comments show why he couldn’t be a captain or a manager in these days. Players wouldn’t put up with it and, generationally, need a very different treatment. He’s a pundit because controversy ultimately results in more viewers. It also explains why Piers Morgan is still on tv. Hence his thoughts are irrelevant. After the season we’ve had, a 4-0 victory is something to be heralded and represents for us far more than… Read more »
Despite my persistent anti-Wenger comments over the last three years, I have always been an optimist and have always countered anyone who says “that can’t be done”. In this respect, I do believe that we are capable of climbing the league and pushing for top 4. To be honest, I’m looking forward to the games ahead far more than I ever did under Emery( and Wenger post 2009), mainly because Arteta is creating something new which all the players are buying into. As a fan, I try not to over complicate matters. The players look far more focused than they… Read more »
Everton vs Arsenal will be another draw, the usual suspects loose ze mental strength as soon as they face a team that doesnt sit back.
Im telling you this for free!
China Yes, but all of that is because the PL is super, super competitive this season. Teams 10 – 7 are a lot closer to Teams 6 – 4 than in years past, and Teams 14 – 11 are a lot closer to 10 – 4 than in years past. We are somewhere between 8 and 10, IMO. Some people have misunderstood much of the above. These folks think, for example, that we are still something like 4-6, and they think United and Chelsea’s stumbles suggest that we are more or less equal to them, if not better. This is… Read more »
Leftside
I hear you, but I need to say what I think, and everyone should be free to give his opinion. This is Le Grove after all, no?
Jamie “””””CG –If you aren’t happy with a 4-0 win at home, football isn’t for you.”””” It was not about the fans. They are entitled to be happy. They have been fed footballing excrement for 2 seasons. Keane was making comment on the fact that Arsenal players celebrations were excessive. (It was in essence a meaningless fixture 10th v 11th.) And although he is undoubtedly one of lifes curmudgeons- I think he made a valid point . They were excessive. After all – the same criticisms about our OTT celebrations were made when we used to celebrate our annual top… Read more »
“We have the 8th to 10th best squad in the league.”
Can’t stop laughing. Shite gets funnier by the day.
Bam,
Matt Scott may or may not be right when he says we have the fifteenth best midfield.
Even if he is right, it’s no biggie, and we still have a decent (low) chance of getting top 5.
This season the difference between fifth and fifteenth place in the league is pretty marginal.
Bamford I disagree I think what we’re actually seeing is the weakest PL season in yonks with the exception of the Leicester title winning season Arsenal have been absolutely dismal and we are where we are – there’s no two ways about that. We have been nothing short of wank. The smaller teams around us have been made to look better than they are because allnof the big teams bar Liverpool and to a lesser extent city have all gone off a cliff (I don’t count Leicester as a big team but they’re Genuinely a good team. The rest of… Read more »
“ Last thing we need is Poch at either of our rivals.“
Why should that worry sauce laden Arteta, Pedro?
Rumours Saks playing hard ball
And wants out for the monies.
Sell.
Moray, spot on. Superb player, but simply not cut out to handle personalities. The generatiaonl point is accurate, but he wasn’t even able to stfu to save a space at Ireland’s World Cup.
Banford You really need to rein in your impulses to shout your usual diatribe from the rooftops, you’ve been wide of the mark for nearly 2 years and you’d think you’d afford some restraint/measurement in what you say. The United side you’re fawning over again is a meagre 4 points ahead of the worst Arsenal season for a century, one that has overseen 3 faces in the dugout over 26 games. Any reasonably balanced observer would admit that had we a competent head coach from day one we’d be miles better off this season in any and all criteria for… Read more »
Tony, Poch is a top, top coach. Give him unlimited funds and he will do a lot of damage.
Arteta has sauce, not sure it’s a hypothetical now. Great with the media, players seem to like him, fans are into him.
I think one of the things that has convinced people that the league is better than it is is that even small teams tend to be very physically fit, often good at pressing etc which historically they weren’t In the old days small teams tended to sit deep and defend in numbers against big teams for the most part. Nowadays that setup has gone out of fashion. But the only reason small clubs are looking good is because they’re playing these high intensity styles and the big teams regularly play poorly and give up results. It’s easier on the eyes… Read more »
CC, to add to that, I love Matt Scott… but he was wide of the mark on our squad and its coachability.
LT can be a DM, Xhaka is functional, the players can be organised and worked into a team. Could we do with better players? Yes. But Arteta in last summer, we are making a far better run at the top 4.
Keane is right. But then again he has a completely different mentality than these losers assembled by the specialist in failure. Celebrating like they won the Champions League after beating Newcastle at home, a team that always loses at the Emirates. Ridiculous really.
I just read that Son is out with a fractured arm for a few weeks.
I know we shouldn’t obsess too much about our rivals but this must present a good opportunity to catch up ground on the Spuds?
CC,
“Unlikely as that ground is to recover, the aforementioned sides are most certainly not “much better than us” as you proclaim”
I’m not trying to get involved in you and Bamford affair, but Chelsea and Man United have better players/squad than Arsenal. Both teams are handicapped by their managers. That is Facts! If both teams sack OG and Fat Frank today and hire Poch and Allegri they would instantly get better. While at Arsenal we need at least 5 starters to even be considered decent.
We don’t need 5 starters to be decent.
We need a beast CB and a beast AM/B2B
The rest just needs a good setup and good management.
Ofc this alone won’t win us the league but if we do that in the summer and aren’t hit by terrible injuries next season you’ll see a significant jump from us
carlo fan boys?
reality check it seems you’ve touch a nerve there with that post
Moray I hope so. Son is one of the most underrated players in the league imo. If he was English or Brazilian he’d be talked about as an insane talent but he’s Asian so his ridiculous ability never quite gets the credit he deserves
Very much glad he’s out even tho I don’t wish physical harm on him
“I’m not trying to get involved in you and Bamford affair, but Chelsea and Man United have better players/squad than Arsenal. “
Sure they do, and Wolves, Sheffield United, Everton, Leicester etc etc.
We’re 8-10th best in the league and Emery overachieved last season to finish 2 points off 3rd. Heard it all before mate, was absolute nonsense then and would you believe it? It’s still absolute nonsense.
I really don’t see Chelsea and Utd as having a better squad than us either. Think they’re quite overrated.
Reality check
i remmeber when wenger won his first game against mourinho. It was epic. The celebration was out of this world. expect the same on sunday . It is not every day you win against legends
China,
“We don’t need 5 starters to be decent”
“We need a beast CB and a beast AM/B2B”
42 points behind the league leaders in Feb
Agreed with China. I think the big teams have been really terrible this year, and I’m not on the opinion that the smaller teams have did all that well. On a standard season all of Everton, Wolves, Sheffield will finish behind the big teams. And Leicester would be competing for a top 6 place till the end and possible finish between 5th and 7th. Different problems in the bigger teams lead to the standings at the moment, which still are not all that weird if you don’t look at the points but just at the standings. With us the exception.… Read more »
Tbh I agree with Bamford, I think United, Spurs and Chelsea have better squads than us. The only thing i’d say is that I don’t think any of them are particularly well coached at this stage. They’ve all encountered their struggles. United and Spurs tend to struggle against the smaller sides. Maybe because their coaches are primarily counterattacking guys and don’t know how to set up against deep blocks. Chelsea are just wildly inconsistent and despite having a great midfield probably struggle with chance creation and chance conversion. I don’t think Arsenal will get top 5 if we’re being totally… Read more »
Gunnersdna
1) I just said we won’t win the league unless you think we only need to be ‘decent’ to win the league? You obviously need better than decent
2) yes compare us with first place when Liverpool are have an almost impossibly good season. Very reasonable barometer eh
GunnerDNA,
And City are 25 pts behind league leaders in Feb.
Think they need a new team as well?
If you’re going to compare us with Liverpool to determine whether or not we’re decent, you might as well also start comparing our trophy haul with pep’s early Barca teams etc. pick the strongest teams in history quite literally for your comparisons init lol Also in case you didn’t notice we’ve under achieved this year horrifically. If 10th was where we are based on where we should be, emery wouldn’t have been hounded out the Emirates just a few months into the season. Unless arteta walks in the press briefing room in August for the first game of the season… Read more »
Raptora,
“GunnerDNA,
And City are 25 pts behind league leaders in Feb.
Think they need a new team as well”
City struggles are understandable:
They’re defending champions
Have critical injuries at CB, no many noticed it because they’re that good
MA joining Arsenal mid season bringing all the sauce with him (Pedro)
Arsenal haven’t challenged for the league since 09
Saka
“I just leave all that stuff to my agent and my parents,” the winger said.
“I just enjoy my football and play my football.
“Do I want to stay? Like I said it’s for my agent. They’re sorting it out.
“Of course I’m enjoying my football, enjoying playing under the new coach so we’ll see what happens.”
China
I know you disagree; I read Le Grove while I was away.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree and see what the remainder of the season tells us about our respective assessments. If I am right, Arsenal will find it difficult to move up from 10th and they will probably not finish above 8th. If you are right, Arsenal should not only move up from 10th, they should probably finish 7th or higher.
We will see.
“Do I want to stay? Like I said it’s for my agent”
Wow… not exactly endearing himself to the fans is he?
GunnerDNA,
City stats 18/19 – 32 wins, 98 pts in 38 games
City stats 19/20 – 16 wins, 51 pts in 25 games
They are on course to achieve 20+ points less than in their previous season.
I guess it’s only normal and perfectly logical.
Roy Keane won 19 major trophies and some of his best performances in CL were against some of the biggest clubs in Europe. He also captained the best PL club of his era under the most demanding manager the PL has ever seen. He may be a massive cnut but to call him a fake hard man who wouldn’t last in the real world makes me think some posters never watched him play. I suppose Veira and Keown are also huge pussies who just acted tough. Whatever Keane achieved as a player is easily topped by his managerial achievement though.… Read more »
Jim yeah those quotes kinda suck tho tbf I’m not sure we can expect a mature/thoughtfully worded comment from a teenager. He’s probably just blurred out the first thing that’s come into his head
Arsenal should be giving him a 5 year deal on 50k and see if he bites. We can have a clause to revisit his contract in a couple of years so he can be confident of another pay rise if he kicks on or meets certain performance criteria
Jim, in a perfect world Saka would come across more positively about staying long term at Arsenal. As an 18 year old, who has no doubt been told what to say by his agent I can accept it as long as he signs up!
His performances are definitely endearing him to the fans though.
It’s also kinda refreshing when a player is honest
Football fans always have to suffer endless player/manger/agent/club double speak. It’s nice to at least know the way to saka is through his parents and agents
5 year deal on 40 to 50k pw would be what I would consider a sensible offer as well.
It should be an easy deal unless the agent is a dipshit.
Saka is a beast of a talent
Some kids start brightly but amount to nothing but other times you can just see a kid is going to do things. He is certainly the latter.
Son is out for the season, according to Morinho.
Chelsea and United are not WAY better than Arsenal……that smirks of an agenda.
This United team is fucking garbage.
Spuds chances of top 4 have taken a nosedive.
Yippee!!
raptora “5 year deal on 40 to 50k pw would be what I would consider a sensible offer as well.It should be an easy deal unless the agent is a dipshit.” Unfortunately the market speaks different especially for a player in high demand. We paid Bellerin more even though his talent was less. Chelsea paid Hudson-Odoi 180k weekly once Bayern got involved. He’s no better than Saka. Once other clubs start to make transfer bids, the player will use the value of the bids to determine what he should ask for in wages. His agent would be derelict in his… Read more »
Time will tell, though, I guess. But I’m pretty confident that I’m right. We’ll see.
say no more fam
that’s all you’ve been seeking and care about your whole life even with repeat vacations
not if Arsenal achieve their season objectives
not all opinions are created equal sad to say
Have to respect Son
The lad suffers a fracture in the first minute against Villa then goes on to complete the full game…and score two goals.
He was still going for tackles same as before all game.
How many players in our squad can do that. I know Mustafi’s pain tolerance is high, so was Koschielny’s [when he was here].
Who else? . .. certainly not Mesut Ozil [solely written for Piere’s pleasure]
whatever it is about Keane’s comment it’s undeniable the punditry is absolute putrid shite
I long for Wenger vs Mourinho showdown again like they did on BeIN once
Dissenter
I feel you’re being unfair to Ozil.
He played the whole of last and half of this season with a fractured ego.
Raptora,
“They are on course to achieve 20+ points less than in their previous season.
I guess it’s only normal and perfectly logical”
City are on another level guy, without injuries they would be challenging Liverpool. Playing Fernandinho at CB and injuries to Sane and SA prevents them from challenging, that’s not Arsenal case. Arsenal squad is just not good enough, that’s why we sit comfortably in mid table.
JAC
Right about what?
I know Mustafi’s pain tolerance is high, so was Koschielny’s [when he was here].
………
Yeah, Koscielny just used to cry like a baby in the dressing room and Mustafi loses his smile on social media.
How did we allow saka’s contract extension become a topic?
Dissenter
These top athletes have operations to counter future problems.
He could probably have lived his entire life without having an op, if he wasn’t a professional footballer and an exceptionally valuable commodity.
I speak from experience.
I am not a professional footballer or a valuable commodity, hence I have many parts of my body that haven’t been operated on.
I won’t trust what Jose said.
North banker “”””Roy Keane is a total irrelevance The man was always a weirdo and will remain so””””” Keane uniquely played under Brian Clough and Sir Alec Ferguson. He uniquely won also the treble. I would say he is far from an irrelevance- he is a pundit worth listening too, If anyone knows how to succeed in sport he does, Not one Arsenal fan would object if we signed a player of his calibre and had his winning mentality permeate through the club. Nowdays we have Genduzi who has never scored a club goal ( he dont create them either)… Read more »
“Nowdays we have Genduzi who has never scored a club goal ( he dont create them either) with his stinking attitude.”
Both lies but don’t let agenda get in the way.
I’m worried Saka’s agent is going to ask for an enormous bump in wages. Hudson-Odoi is on what almost 200K a week based on less than Saka’s produced. I’m not saying Saka will ask for that but what’s to stop him asking for half of that as his basic pay?
Do we bite the bullet and pay him that much?
Anything above 50k pw is insane. Doesn’t matter what Chelsea pay Odoi.
Keep playing him and let his value increase and sell in the summer if he doesn’t commit.
15m and add clauses like right of first refusal AND 50% of future sale price.
Give in now and you run the risk of paying 100k plus to unmotivated kids you cant shift
Romford Pepe “””””Nowdays we have Genduzi who has never scored a club goal ( he dont create them either) with his stinking attitude.””””” On his wikipedia page it states: Orient B 24 games ( o) Orient 26 (o) Arsenal 53 (o) o= Goals I stand by comments and have no agenda- just the Truth. Genduzi dont score goals, make goals or stop goals, And if you aint proficient in at least one of those categories- it basically means you are pretty useless as a pro soccer player, Genduzi duped me. I thought he could play. He cant. He is a… Read more »
Coutry biy
You think it’s insane, his agent may differ and I’m certain you’ve never represented a professional footballer at contract negotiations before.
If it’s true that Bayern, Dortmund, Liverpool and United are interested then the agent will be wise to drag on negotiations. You’re just throwing out random numbers like you dictate the market.
He has the most assists on the team playing out of position. We will have to be ready to go all the way.
CB, we kept MG on 40k a week. Feel fairly confident we’re not going to get into an Odoi lime issue. He’s getting games, he’s being well coached, he’s only 18.
Pedro – I hope so but I use Hudson-Odoi as an example as I’m sure he will be referred to in the negotiations.
So when you have Hudson-Odoi who got payed based on potential and then you have Sancho who will get paid this summer based on potential being realised week in week out where does our boy Saka fit in? I would say right in the middle and that is probably over £50K per week.
He scored in the Europa League last year and got an assist in the NLD this year so you’re wrong on both counts.
I’m not even that big on the kid but he’s 20 and hasn’t been coached properly in his career. At 20 it’s silly to right him off. He might not become a star but you can’t say with any assurance yet.
Even if you wanted to sell him now you’re gonna at least double your money so it’s been a worthwhile exercise regardless.
Pedro
Guendouzi was plucked from the French 2nd division so it’s a bit different.
I’m pretty sure no one else was vying for his signature when we signed him. He was a long punt of a signing.
Saka has already proven his mettle, playing out of position We better hope those rumors of Bayern being involved aren’t true.
We have to keep hold of Saka and Martinelli .
That’s the only way we can rebuild the team. They have cost little in fees so the wages to keep them can be higher than normal for their age.
Or we become Southampton and struggle in the lower part of the league.
Players also want success and we have to get back to the top of the table.
Stan doesn’t understand this at all otherwise he would put his hand in his pocket.
Holy shit some of y’all are some demoralizing wankers .. They were celebrating Lacazette’s goal.. because he hadn’t scored in forever and they had just gone through a 2 week team building exercise. Having personally gone through these types of exercises almost every single one they tell you to have fun whilst playing and play loose. Because that’s how you get better… Not playing like a death march and every mistake is going to end your life… with all the joy sucked out of it.. Football is an entertainment business… Fuck sakes. And we needed a win… I absolutely loved… Read more »
Guendouzi was always going to plateau from the dizzying heights of his first games for us. That’s what happens to most young players. That’s why Alan Hansen’s famous quote rings true- “you don’t won anything with kids”
He’s also playing with his 3rd manager in one season. He needs very good management and coaching but will definitely come through.
CG spot on he runs around like a headless chicken ,then falls over.
It looks impressive but just watch him for ten minutes and it’s clear that he achieves little in his overall play.
Passes back nicely though!
Middy,
Thomas is a big fan of Roy Keane.
Say no more.
Diss I certainly have not negotiated player contracts in my life. You are quite right about that. What I am certain of is that there is something like market value. While Saka is talented, he is still a prospect. He has not played half a season of first team football. And you cant use Choi as an example. His 200k pw is an aberration. Chelsea were in the middle of a ban we are not. They could not transfer in, it would have been disastrous to lose him. And Odoi’s situation reinforces my point. He played a handful of games… Read more »
Diss
Saka hasn’t proven any mettle
Seems “not been coached properly” is the go to phrase to make excuses for any player these days on here.
Words-
I honestly skip over Thomas’s posts because I already know what he is going to say.. Has been a sky is falling Chelsea/ Mourinho fanboy troll since forever.
He will continue in that vain until we are the second coming of the Invincibles and he has to shutup. The odds of that happening are very low. So he will always have an audience.
CG guendouzi has scored before and he has assists so…..
Countryboy
Highest number of assists in the team in a very difficult season = mettle
He’s good enough to bench two established LBs, even though he is being played out of position and is virtually learning the role as he plays.
He was the go-to-guy in the first half when we were struggling. His teams mates depend on him already.
Don’t remember where i read it/heard it but the new youth director said that the academy was in disrepair when he arrived, specifically that the youth teams apart from not being trained in the ‘arsenal way’ were full of central mids and lacking in wingers, perhaps burton sale was a step towards remedying this…
R.P “””””Even if you wanted to sell him now you’re gonna at least double your money so it’s been a worthwhile exercise regardless.”””””” Unlike most on here – I live in the real world. We paid £ 7 million for him. Which clubs do you know that are daft enough to play £14 million for him? What does he actually offer ? Goals? Assists? Pressing? Add in to the mix : his indiscipline ( note Zaha rugby tackle) very slow and unathletic waves imaginary yellow cards to the referees & now he is giving Fred and Mikel Arteta grief. And… Read more »
Receding
“not been coached properly” is an apt description of Guendouzi.
Emery played him a lot last season, in retrospect maybe he played him way too much. He didn’t seem to be improving tbh.
I’m curious about how we would do next season if we sold auba and laca for 100m, put tierney LB, saka left, martinelli up front, pepe right. That’s a proper work in progress front three but could extremely potent with pace, technique and threat all over the shop Then with the 100m hit the CB and AM positions hard with 2 50m level players. Then other signings could just be low price gambles, bargain basement options, free transfers and sell to buy types It could backfire but if arsenal did go this route I would be pretty excited to see… Read more »
player)George Graham should have bought him when he was at Forest
If I remember correctly, Blackburn and ourselves were in competition to sign him. Then MU came in for him, and he said he would only go there. That was that!
CG you do realize guen plays DM, not AN, right?
Countryboy “Highest number of assists in the team in a very difficult season = mettle” Keyword – difficult season. In a season where virtually everyone has been below par, you want to offer the best of an average bunch 200k? “He’s good enough to bench two established LBs, even though he is being played out of position and is virtually learning the role as he plays.“ Keyword: learning. He’s still learning. And he hasnt exactly benched the established players yet. They haven’t all been fit. Arteta didn’t start his best 11 on Sunday. Just turned out to be our best… Read more »
“He didn’t seem to be improving tbh.” Maybe he just isn’t very good I found it hilarious when i read on here he was the type of player we should build the team around, he was an okay player with lots of confidence and little else, he can pick a pass on a good day but isn’t particularly good at anything. Yes Emery overplayed him, probably made him feel better than he really is, but at least with him you know what you get. No one was calling him “not properly coached” when he dragged the team to a win… Read more »
“””” I would say he is far from an irrelevance- he is a pundit worth listening too,
If anyone knows how to succeed in sport he does,””””
What’s keanes managerial portfolio like ?
Has Robbie Burton been sold to Dinamo Kiev, because if he has the poor bastard has been sold to team in Ukraine which is experiencing low key war with Russia now. Ukraine is last country where I would want to play in Europe, very unstable.
Northern Virginia has a few awesome civil war battlefields to visit if that your thing and have free time, Pedro. And have some bbq, Virginia is where south starts and you can get delicious brisket and whatnot.
“Seems “not been coached properly” is the go to phrase to make excuses for any player these days on here.”
Lol how do you expect a young player to improve if they’re not coached?
Countryboy
I never said Saka was wort 200k. I didn’t even sugest we pay him anywhere near that.
My point is that once a credible bid comes for him, the agent will use that to calibrate what wages to demand for. Chelsea had to pay Husdon Odoi that because Bayern were ready to spurge out 45 million on him.
I’m not going to be throwing out numbers like you but his agent will be daft to jump at a 50k weekly wage without seeing what else is out there.
People need to remember that player performance is massively influenced by team-set up, position, managerial approach etc. It’s not as straight forward as plonking them on the pitch and expecting a performance. They need guidance and tactical instruction.
“Has Robbie Burton been sold to Dinamo Kiev, because if he has the poor bastard has been sold to team in Ukraine which is experiencing low key war with Russia now. Ukraine is last country where I would want to play in Europe, very unstable.”
You do know a player can’t be sold without his agreement right?
I think if we’re all honest with one another here, it’s perfectly clear that Guendouzi, at this stage of his development, lacks certain skills that we all feel he should have. Firstly, creativity. Does he possess that ability to find a pass that most good players in his position do naturally? The answer to this is no, he doesn’t. Secondly, is he a secondary goal threat? Again, no he isn’t. On the few occasions he has been a position to score, he’s fluffed his lines miserably. Thirdly, is he a natural athlete? No, not in my opinion. He’s one paced… Read more »
For reference
(current) £5k pw = £260,000 a year
£25k pw = £1,300,000 a year
5 yr deal = £6,500,000
£50k pw = £2,600,000 a year
5 yr deal = £13,000,000
£100k pw = £5,200,000 a year
5 yr deal = £26,000,000
£150k pw = £7,800,000 a year
5 yr deal = £39,000,000
£200k pw = £10,400,000 a year
A 5 yr deal = £52,000,000
Receding
I think there’s some x-factor in Guendouzi, he would’t be knocking on the doors of the French national team set-up if it was just fluff.
It’s extracting that talent and refining into consistency that’s the problem right now. At least we can sell him if he doesn’t react well to being called out by the manager.