Players and staff rally for the journey

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WELCOME TO THURSDAY.

Let’s jump right into some more stories about our wonderful club.

The Sun wrote a piece about players that could be exited this summer. A real non-story likely not fueled by any intel… more likely someone just looked at when players deals are being signed off and mashed that with things Raul has said in the past.

LACAZETTE, AUBA, OZIL COULD BE SOLD

Yes, absolutely. Not really news. I suspect the fact that Auba and Lacazette have not signed deals is a pretty good indicator of that and I would imagine that Ozil wants to land a big deal with more than a year for a safety net (probably also sick of being threatened by gangsters in London).

There is no doubt the club is going to enact some aggressive surgery this summer.

Here’s how we stand for clarity:

5 players enter the final year of their deal (Mustafi, Luiz, Ozil, Auba, Sok)

3 loan players deals expire (Mari, Soares, Ceballos)

6 players are down to 2 years (Kola, Chambers, Matteo, Eddie, Martinez, Lacazette)

There’s 14 players that have their futures up in the air. Raul explicitly said players with 18 months on their deals will be sold. No chance of that in January, so we either tie the above down to new deals or move them on sharpish. There’s a good £130m to be had in that pack and a lot of money.

Arteta needs those players to have value this summer. He also needs to see who is worth keeping. What I highly doubt is that anyone in the backroom team is leaking that the manager is unhappy with his players. I just don’t buy it, that would be a suicidal leak 6 weeks into a job and it just doesn’t jibe with anything Mikel has been trying to implement.

You can piece that together from additional stories.

David Ornstein said on his podcast that the players are totally bought into the philosophy of the new manager. Mikel has been working on behavior on and off the pitch, apparently showing players when they throw their hands up in disgust at something – asking them to curb the behavior to bring more unity.

He also has the wider club behind his ideas, everyone is absolutely sure he has what it takes to succeed at Arsenal, people feeding back that this could be a special journey.

… but if that wasn’t enough, David Luiz, a player notorious for his ability to split a dressing room, went on a PR push for his new coach.

“He knows football, he knows inside the pitch,”

“He loves football, he loves to work, so this enthusiasm is contagious for everybody.

“What Mikel is trying to build is something big and I really believe in his philosophy, I really believe we can do something big this year and in the future, so I’m really, really happy because we have our way to go. This way, is it going to be a hard way? Yes. Is it going to be difficult to achieve? Yes, but it’s possible. Yes, it’s possible.

“The first thing is to believe. If you don’t dream, and you don’t believe, then your dream is impossible. To do something, I think the first thing is you have to dream, and then you believe you can do it, then after to study how to do it, and then to understand during this process you’re going to have some good moments and some difficult moments but you can never change your mind, you can never change your mentality and you will always have to come back to the beginning and understand.”

You could write this off as a puff piece, I normally would, but this feels a little more from the heart than Auba telling the cameras with a sullen face that he was happy under Emery. This is a 6 minute video that goes well beyond basic platitudes and it’s coming from a guy that has won a Champions League, 2 Europas, league titles in 3 countries, and countless cups. He doesn’t need to say the above words, but he’s out there trying to get the fans onboard with the journey.

… and that’s what it is. What we’re undergoing isn’t a quick managerial bump from a table-thumping ‘experienced’ leader. It’s something more thoughtful, something more ambitious, something more exciting.

It’s going to be a process. Results need to come. They will. We just need to trust that this is the correct direction for the club.

If Ornstein is hearing great things and David Luiz is prepared to back a ‘novice’ manager with such aggressive positivity, then we should too.

I also liked hearing that Arteta blew everyone away with an incredible speech before the United.

It was also interesting to hear that Kia, super-agent extraordinaire is also a massive Gooner. I’m sure he’s not giving us mates rates, but maybe, just maybe, he’s going to unlock something special for Arsenal this summer. I feel gross saying that, but when you’re in bed with these people, you’d best hope the rogering you are about to receive is a memorable one… amirite? Yeah, I’m right.

Key thing for me about all of these interviews is that the energy is ticking upwards. There’s a different vibe with the staff, the players and the fans. That positive energy takes you places. That comes from knowing where you’re going combined with strong leadership. It’s the sort of thing that allows you to outperform your talent and move to a higher level.

Fingers crossed it starts to translate into results.

Ok, I’ll see you in the comments. x

 

 

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James wood

Real Madrid doing good business.

Zacharse

John Cross basically talked to wenger on the phone for 5 mins and wrote an article

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Zac

John dross is totally unreliable
Making out he’s one of the lads but realistically he’s a journo up there with plod not to be trusted.

Ahmeducrazy

Mustafi- £7-10M (4.6M Annual wage)
Sok- 5-7M (4.7M Annual wage)
Mkhi- 10-13M (9M Annual wage)
Ozil- Loan Fee 1-2M (18M Annual Wage)
Kola- 15-20M (5M Annual Wage)
Auba 50-60M (10M Annual Wage)

Aussie Gooner

I think there are quite a few typos on this blog at the moment. Start with the decimal point for some of the absurd valuations of our surplus players! Ozil – 0 will see out his contract and then move to USA for a large sign on fee Laca – 20m well past his prime no top flight club will take him, Championship? Sok – 3m can barely move Kola – 10m if we are lucky Chamber – 0m crock no resale value Elneny – 5m not to EPL standard Miki – 10m on name alone, off the radar Xhaka… Read more »

Ahmeducrazy

Approximately £80M in wages (if they ran down their contracts) above
88M in Transfers above

Ahmeducrazy

Alexandre Lacazette selling for 20M and valued as a 2nd divisioned player

You alright mate? think before you post

Ahmeducrazy

Still around 130M there aussie

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Ahmed

That’s more closer to reality prices.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Except kola

Ahmeducrazy

Most of its alright but only 25M for Guen? Hes pretty young and has played in the prem consistently, for me personally hes 35M. Laca around 40-45

Daniel Altos

i have been watching arsenal u/23 and u/18(and women) matches for a while(the only arsenals that give me joy these days😁)and my word we look so stocked in the attacking department.Sam Greenwood looks like the real deal,very calm and composed for his age and he has that ‘arrogance’ factor that great forwards have,I can see it in him.Miguel Azeez looks a proper baller,can pick a pass that guy,best talent in the academy for me.Quality ball control and knows how to dictate play from deep.The one player that gets me excited whenever I watch the young guns.Hopefully they will kick on

Ahmeducrazy

Maybe 40M for Guen seeing as Iwobi is valuated at 35M

Ahmeducrazy

Ight imma head out

Receding Hairline

It was casually dropped that we could shift Guendouzi to PSG for 50-60m and only Marc bat an eyelid.

But Ceballos, a starter for the Spanish national team and contracted to Real Madrid is called a 75m player and we have a debate.

Getting weirder on here daily. Seems Ceballos is now some sort of enemy because Arteta doesn’t fancy him.

Freddie Ljungberg

Kai Havertz worth less than Guen?

Think you have to take that list with a pinch of salt Pedro.

He’s probably the second most valuable teenager at the club atm after the rise of Martinelli.
Not that I want us to sell him anyway, him, Torreira, Willock and ESR are the only midfielders worth keeping at the club.

Champagne Charlie

Guendouzi is a french international teen playing in England, his stock is high in France and the best team in France pisses money.

Ceballos is a Spain international not good enough to get games for Real Madrid whom he’s already owned by.

Who could sniff for Guendouzi? PSG, as has been previously mooted, ergo the dopey fee.

Who is sniffing for Ceballos? Answers on a postcard……ahh that’s right, Valencia wanted him on loan. I’m surely they’ll drop 65 mil in no time at all.

Rich

The price you receive for a player, is linked to the size of the contract. If Ozil is on £15mill a year? And he goes for free? You’ve lost a player for free, but you’ve just given yourself £75million to invest in a player over the next 5 years. If you sell Aubameyang for £55mill at 30? Instead of giving him a 3 year deal on £15mill a year? You’ve not only got £55million, you’ve just saved £45million in wages over 3 years, but over 5 years you’ve got £130million. Because as long as your revenue doesn’t decrease, when you… Read more »

Rich

Lacazette’s value is linked to his contract.

If he’s earning £200k a week?

He’ll be reluctant to take a pay cut.

If Lacazette is earning £80k a week? Then he’s a £45-£55million player

But on £200k a week, he’s a £35-£45million player

Bojangles

A good analysis of what Arteta’s trying to achieve in the Tim Stillman report on Arseblog this morning. Worth a read, especially for the Football Manager types here, may give you a few tips you can implement in your PS teams.

njwc

Agree with Pedro. Overhaul needed on those players. Would keep Eddie and Chambers will stay. Worth a new deal in my opinion. The rest can go. How long does Elneny have to go? Is he gone? Know he was loaned out but can surely get 12m for him. As a club we need to be investing in different markets. If we lose auba and lacca. I would be in for Morelos at Rangers off the bat. Need to be looking at u21s in lesser nations eg Romania are on fire right now. There is talent out there for good prices.… Read more »

Valentin

Rich, “You’ve lost a player for free, but you’ve just given yourself £75million to invest in a player over the next 5 years.” Don’t give up the day job, because clearly finance is not your strong point. The idea that because Özil’s wage is taken off the book we have suddenly an extra 75 millions to play is laughable. If you can’t afford a Ferrari and it is repossessed that does not mean that you can now spend that money you did not had in the first place on a new Bentley. Arsenal can’t afford Özil’s salary. For the second… Read more »

Tony

If this was April’s fool’s day I’d get it, but what could Wenger possibly advise Arteta with compared to Pep?

I wonder who had this moronic idea in the Arsenal hierarchy, especially when no other club wanted to hire Wenger post Arsenal firing Him?

Wonder what Graham42 thinks of this?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7976257/Arsenal-keen-Arsene-Wenger-return-club-bid-boost-new-boss-Mikel-Arteta.html

Tony

I meant Graham62*

Zacharse

This kike tweet…
Bit early to mention if isnt going to be leaked.

Goobergooner

I’m going to call Wenger a cunt, thanks to Rollen reminding me of his comments of players entering their last year of contracts being ideal. What a load of shit coming from a man with an economics degree.

The only way that is ideal is if it’s a top quality player at a lower level team.
Oh wait, that is what Wenger reduced us to.

Habesha Gooner

Pedro whether you think Kai has been shit, He is going to go for 65 mil+. And planning on selling Guendouzi is wrong. He is only 20. We should see If he has another gear in his locker. he certainly has the arrogance for it. If he was around 23 and 24 I would agree with you but not when he is 20 and has got balls the size of our entire squad combined.

Sid

So arsenal will managed to sell 11 players, who basically are not up to standards but other clubs are willing to buy.
Arsenal is the new Lehman Brothers

Im telling you this for free!

Receding Hairline

No one is paying 75m for Ceballos nor is anyone paying 50-60m for Guendouzi.

Stop plucking figures out of the air because he happens to be French and PSG are about, they are rich not stupid.

Graham62

Tony

Good morning.

No problems, 52 would do.

Highlighted this yesterday. If true, those that came up with this idea should be sent to the tower..

No logic in it whatsoever and goes to show the deeper problems within the club.

Arteta would learn nothing from Wenger and, significantly, a large proportion of the fan base would be livid if this were to happen.

“Unite the fan base” ………..are they frigging crazy?

It would divide us even further.

Pierre

“large proportion of the fan base would be livid if this were to happen.”

A minute proportion Graham , minute.

Cant see it happening anyway , it’s just another disruptive Arsenal story to destabilise the fans and question Arteta’s ability to unite the fans.

There are only a few who are questioning Arteta and the majority post on here.

Graham62

Goobergooner

Agree totally, although I will refrain from calling anyone a ####.

Have a nice day everyone.

Tony

Totally agree Graham.

If true it just amplifies the complete lack of insight and understanding from the club regarding the team and supporters.

Sid

Wenger(the mad king) and Arteta(john snow)
Is a non story

Im telling you this for free!

Graham62

Pierre

I’m sorry, you are wrong.

The vast majority of our fanbase would not want him back.

It would cause uproar.

Cheers.

Graham62

#NoFriggingWayShouldWengerComeBack.

On a brighter note, the third case of Coronavirus in UK is in……………………….Brighton.

Great!

Jamie

Guen more valuable than Haaland?! Guy who compiled that list is high.

French Giroud

Funny analysis all around by people who think Ozil can fetch a transfer fee lol.

Leedsgunner

We’re apparently eyeing up…wait for it, Lallana… when he comes on a free.

Perhaps Arteta will work his magic on them but I’ll need convincing.

I thought the move to the Emirates was suppose to herald a new era of Arsenal pushing on for the best stars out there and for titles.

I’m disappointed and distinctly feeling shortchanged.

Anyone else wish we were back at Highbury?

Leedsgunner

*on him…

Dream10

Arteta is not going to able to add two or three more players if Arsenal don’t sell players in their prime ages. Özil, Aubameyang, Luiz, Sokratis are over 30 and past their prime age.

Club will have to make a decision on Lacazette, Torreira, Xhaka, Bellerin, Kolasinac, Holding, Chambers (injured), Leno.

Unless a number of those players btwn
22-29 are sold, club can’t make major changes.

Pierre

I’m surprised Saka is not on that list, in my opinion , he is our most talented kid coming through . I would put him at 30+ million now. If he cements a spot in the starting line up in his best position then his price will go through the roof. Martinelli could be our biggest asset if he continues his goalscoring exploits. I would put him at 50+ million today , that could easily double on a year or 2 time. Guendouzi, I would put at 30+ million , again that could double in a very short amount of… Read more »

Dream10

Pierre

Love Saka. He’s such an accomplished player as a teenager. He’ll be a top class player by the time he’s 21. Martinelli, Nketiah capable of making an impact at a high level because he can score goals at a youngster.
ESR, Willock, Nelson will need time to polish their game as they are following the traditional path of young players (High potential, up and down, then hopefully becoming more consistent at 22,23)

Bojangles

People discussing prime ages for strikers should maybe take a look at the top scorers in the top three European leagues. Those at the top are 30+.

Left testicle

Adam Lallana? Dipping in to the bargain bin again. I thought we moved to The Emirates to compete with the big boys.

Left testicle

By the time we kick off next season Lallana will be 32.

Graham62

I’m often left wandering if the powers that be at Arsenal ever consider looking into the varied and diverse “business related” opinions on the various supporters blogs.

You know. 1+1=2, 2+2=4 and all that.

You don’t need a degree in Economics to understand what is( has been) needed at the club to make things work.

Years and years of financial misdemeanors has meant that we are burdened with this huge weight on our shoulders, which could have clearly been avoided if our financial wizards knew what they were doing.

It is beyond a joke.

Luisjo

This used to be the best blog around. Read this blog for 12 years. Now it’s worse than that of Blackburn George. The most important thing in coaching or to English people football ‘management’ is team selection. If you look at any top coach in world football since 1890 they all pick the best team. In this aspect Arteta is a failure. Plays Lacazette every game, plays Auba on the wing and Martinelli in the wrong place. Are you fucking stupid not to see this?

Graham62

wondering

Graham62

Luisjo

I know, it’s so obvious. The thing is in today’s society(especially in this country) you have to balance out the politics of the game/players feelings/agents/the PC brigade etc etc.

Managers of today are not allowed to be managers.

Imagine what Ferguson would have done.

“Mesut, I need to see you in my office…………NOW!!”

Pierre

Graham ““Unite the fan base” ………..are they frigging crazy?It would divide us even further.” Would it, I’m not so sure, anyway I don’t believe the majority of the fan base is fractured. You are always going to get one or 2 who have a limited understanding of the game like Ruth, Receding ,Azed , Fred, Gentlebris etc who will argue black is white, but by and large the fans are with Arteta and will remain patient and supportive as they can see that he is addressing the right areas of the team and improving players in his short period at… Read more »

Pierre

Will add Luisjo to that list and Rich(joe)

Freddie Ljungberg

Pierre doing the only thing he knows how, trolling.

Arguing that black is white? Like saying Ozil is still a top player in 2019/20 despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

I’m fully behind Arteta, same as every Arsenal supporter should be behind a new manager, there’s a lesson in there for you mister super fan.
Dry your tears.

Marc

Pierre is right on the fan base being mostly united. People need to remember that “on line” is not the real world and people don’t behave the same way. Fan’s will disagree on things over a beer or in the stadium but everyone pulls the same way – you will never find someone in the stadium wishing the team lose matches to make a point – something that has happened on here more than once.

Pierre

I keep reading that results have been poor, and need to improve , we are not scoring goals and are lacking creativity.

I’m sorry, but I don’t see it that way …

This year , we have played 7
won 3
drawn 4 .
Lost 0
Scored 9
Conceded 5 .

3 games away .
4 games home
2 red cards against and still remained unbeaten .

I see nothing negative in these figures, nothing.

Freddie Ljungberg

You can also be fully behind a manager and think he makes mistakes at the same time, I know that’s hard to wrap your Wenger infested brain around but that’s how it works at most clubs, the manager doesn’t have to be either the devil or a god, just a manager.

If you want to join a cult there’s plenty of them out there, I’m sure they have forums too.

Danny S

Also 4pts against 2 ‘top 6’ teams which is a great improvement.

Marc

Pedro

“2nd most valuable teenager in Europe.

https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2018/261/en/

I’ll ask the question again if Guendozi is so good then why the fuck is the “high Priest of fuck ups” starting in front of him week in week out?

Jim Lahey

@Pierre –

“I see nothing negative in these figures, nothing.”

Thats because you are cherry picking figures to suit your argument.

Marc

“You can also be fully behind a manager and think he makes mistakes at the same time”

Comment of the day and it’s still early!

Pierre

Fred
“Arguing that black is white? Like saying Ozil is still a top player in 2019/20 despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?”

The very least you can do is be honest .

I have never said anything remotely close to that …don’t bother looking for evidence, you won’t find any.

To the contrary, you will find that I have said that Ozil has done nothing special this season, even when others were eulogising over his performance v United.

Freddie Ljungberg

Jim Lahey

9 goals in 7 games doesn’t look very good for the guy who is paid to create goals, of course he doesn’t see anything negative in it.

Pierre isn’t an Arsenal fan anymore, he’s just an Ozil acolyte. As long as he plays everything is great, regardless of results, and they will more often be negative with him in the team, doesn’t matter to good old Pierre though, he’ll defend him to his dying breath no matter how shite he is and no matter for how long he’s been shit.

Jim Lahey

@Danny S –

“Also 4pts against 2 ‘top 6’ teams which is a great improvement.”

Is that how far we have fallen… that we should look at taking points off “top 6” teams as an achievement? We are Arsenal not Crystal Palace.

Freddie Ljungberg

Pierre

You have never said that Ozil is a top player?

What the hell is it you base every single post on here on then? That he’s average? Why are you spending so much time defending an average player and want him to be played to the detriment of the team then? Getting addled in your dotage me thinks.

Freddie Ljungberg

“don’t bother looking for evidence, you won’t find any.”

the words of an innocent man…

Graham62

Pierre We could argue all day on this, we both know that. Your perceptions on Wenger make my heart bleed. “very trying circumstances in his last 5 years”. What a load of poppycock. Wenger left far too late. Should have been years before. You know that, I know that, the entire footballing world knows that. Wenger leaving was essential because, under him, we were not only regressing, we were becoming a non-viable product. Wengers true credibility only existed between 1996-2006, after that it deteriorated as he sucked us all in with his embarrassing rhetoric and excuses. When we left Highbury… Read more »

Jim Lahey

I think we can all agree that since we left Highbury things have not gone to plan. We were told we would be able to compete with the best in Europe, but since the move we have all been told that we are perpetually broke. I spoke with Gambon about this like a year or two ago, but early to mid 2000s we were competing with United not just on the field but off it also. Then they kicked on, we didn’t. We missed opportunity after opportunity to expand the club. Our deals were always years behind the others, getting… Read more »

Jim Lahey

If Wenger had left for Madrid in 2009 he would have been a god like figure to every Arsenal fan.

We look at post 2006 Arsenal as the major downturn. But we played beautiful football well into the 2010s. We reached a CL semi final in 09 and should have won the league 2 more time before Wenger left. What could have been I guess.

Marc

“Also 4pts against 2 ‘top 6’ teams which is a great improvement.”

On what precisely – Emery took 4 points off the Spud’s last season, 4 points off of ManU and 3 off of Chelsea.

If that is the measure then you need to reassess how you judge the team.

Pierre

Graham
“When we left Highbury we were promised expansion and growth. We were told we would be able to compete. That never materialised.”

And that would have happened if Chelsea and City hadn’t come along with their billions and poached any decent player in the world( including ours) whilst we had to pay back the stadium debt whilst also trying to compete against 3 clubs with limitless funds.

If you can’t understand that , then there is no hope for you.

Jim Lahey

2006 CL – Beyond hard to take, we were the better team and I fully believe we would have won that final if Jens had just allowed Eto to score. 11 vs 11, we win. Although… 2004 is the big let down when you look back, best team we ever had, probably the weakest final over the last 20+ years. We should have walked it that year. 2009 – Lost in the semi final to United, that Gibbs slip and Almunia getting beat at his near post to a Ronaldo free kick that was so far out he was nearly… Read more »

Pierre

Jim
“but early to mid 2000s we were competing with United not just on the field but off it also. Then they kicked on, we didn’t. We missed opportunity after opportunity to expand the club. Our deals were always years behind the others, getting £35m a year when teams around us were getting £60m+. The club was so poorly run during those years that we missed our opportunity to become one of Europes elite”

Do you think , as Graham does , that the reason for this was Wenger .

Thomas

“This year , we have played 7”

___

Lol nice try Pierre. How about you count the games since Arteta took over instead of just picking and choosing? So disengenious.

Jim Lahey

@Pierre –

To be honest, I just don’t know. I have no idea how much pull he had within the club during this time so I can’t point the figure.

For me, personally. I never blamed him for our financial situation. He was responsible however for everything that went on on the pitch, the constant bottling the horrendous defence, the odd substitute policy, the continuous playing of players that would cost us game after game, playing players out of position and so on. That was on him.

Pierre

Thomas
You being an Arsenal supporter , should alway focus on the positives .

raptora

People are right to ask Arteta questions.

Why do you pick your starting CF to be a player that hasn’t scored in over 700-800 minutes?

Why do you move your superstar goal machine CF on the wings?

Why do you keep insisting in playing a once-upon-a-time footballer while you bench and disappoint a real class CAM desperate to prove himself?

Begging Xhaka and Mustafi to stay could be another alarm ringing.

3 managers have watched this movie. Wenger, Emery, Ljungberg.

How hard is it to learn from other people’s mistakes?!

Marc

“You being an Arsenal supporter , should alway focus on the positives .”

No – as an Arsenal supporter he should want the team to do well but he should also be able to see where the club has issues or should be doing better.

Blind support with problems being overlooked is just being part of a cult.

Marc

raptora

The problem is certain people most notably Pedro can’t distinguish between asking questions as you have and forming a lynch mob.

Emiratesstroller

Pierre Our results this season including since Arteta arrived are not particularly impressive. We are still struggling to win games primarily because even when we are leading in games by one or two goal margin there is no certainty that we will be able to hold onto to the end of games. Nevertheless I do think that with exception of Burnley game there has been an improvement in performance level, the balance in the team and improving levels of communication and fitness level of a number of players. As I posted several times the level of expectation this season is… Read more »

Davey

Pierre

I mostly read the post on here and occasionally post but sure to correct if I’m wrong (sure you will) most of your time and posts on here seem to be centered on bumming Ozil up do they not?

Graham62

Oops!! There you go again Pierre, making excuses for the guy.

Roman Abramovich took over at Chelski in 2003. Three years before we moved to the Emirates.

We didn’t need to go out and purchase the best players. We just needed to purchase the right players and implement simple and achievable methods.

I’ll never understand one thing though, it’s all those supporters who bought into all the excuses.

You know, folk like you.

raptora

Marc, I’m behind Arteta 100%. But if we want to progress, he has to learn quicker. Doing great work in the training ground is obviously great and the base of doing well in games basically. But he has start picking the correct starting lineups, and to manage the game FAR better than he has. Literally in every game we’ve played, we’ve mostly played really well in the first halves and then allowed the opposition to dictate the second halves. And Mikel so far has shown some really bad ingame management. 0 idea of how to help his team from the… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Reverting back to original post of Pedro I think that most people like myself who are season ticket holders and watch games on go to games on regular basis are more “tolerant” than those who are posting on Le Grove. When both Emery and Arteta were appointed Head Coach there was a very short time frame before many posters started criticising and/or slagging these guys. When Emery arrived I had personal misgivings about this appointment primarily because of his poor communication skills. Nevertheless I said on many occasions that I would give him the benefit of the doubt for at… Read more »

Micheal

Good post ES. Being reasonable and sensible on here could get you marked out as subservise !

Jim Lahey

@Graham – “We just needed to purchase the right players and implement simple and achievable methods.” I agree that you don’t need to drop crazy money to be successful. But its never as easy as that. Every new player in is a gamble, some more of a gamble than others but none are ever guaranteed success stories. When you are Chelsea, United or City you’re less worried about getting it right each time as you can take the hit (United have done this for years..). We can’t really take that hit over and over. Its never as simple as just… Read more »

Pierre

Jim “. He was responsible however for everything that went on on the pitch, the constant bottling the horrendous defence, the odd substitute policy, the continuous playing of players that would cost us game after game, playing players out of position and so on. That was on him.” If you believe it has been ” horrendous ” in his last 10 years , what would you regard the last 18 months . During this 18 months we have competed financially with the other top clubs but failed abysmally. Whilst during the relocation to the emirates we literally spent nothing for… Read more »

S Asoa

Damning
All that https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/07/bernd-leno-makes-shocking-admission-arsenal-unai-emery-12198193/

This is a sack able deriliction by Raul allowing this state of affairs to fester. Not forgetting that Raul is solely responsible of parachuting The Fraud into the Club.

Jim Lahey

@Pierre –

“If you believe it has been ” horrendous ” in his last 10 years , what would you regard the last 18 months .”

It has been every bit as bad.

Pierre, Wenger did waste a lot of money on poor players, but so do most managers, we just didn’t have the financial power to cover it, when we make a mistake we seem to be stuck with it for a long time. United, City and Chelsea can write it off as bad debt and move on.

Freddie Ljungberg

“During this 18 months we have competed financially with the other top clubs but failed abysmally.” We spent 7th most in the league the summer after Wenger left, mostly because of low resale value of existing player and our inability to move players on vastly inflated wages on. There’s only so far you can stretch a band aid on a festering sore and we needed it to stretch much farther than it did. Anyway, most reasonable fans agreed that it would take 3-4 years to clean up Wengers and Gazidis mess, we’re halfway through and if we have another window… Read more »

GunnerDNA

Pierre, “If you believe it has been ” horrendous ” in his last 10 years , what would you regard the last 18 months . During this 18 months we have competed financially with the other top clubs but failed abysmally. Whilst during the relocation to the emirates we literally spent nothing for a number of years and competed whilst still playing quality football.” It wasn’t just about spending big money. Some of the decisions AW made in his last 10 yrs was borderline insanity. Virgil van Dijk, Antoine Griezmann, and Serge Gnabry (just to name a few) should all… Read more »

Aussie Gooner

“Also 4pts against 2 ‘top 6’ teams which is a great improvement.”

OK so what about losing a shit load of points at home to teams in the bottom half of the table then? What does that constitute? Gross negligence?

GunnerDNA

S Asoa, “This is a sack able deriliction by Raul allowing this state of affairs to fester. Not forgetting that Raul is solely responsible of parachuting The Fraud into the Club” It was obvious that the squad wasn’t united under UE. Their behavior is affecting them now. Ozil’s group who was unhappy he wasn’t playing is now realizing he’s trash. Lacazette group now witnessing that he’s a average player and Mustafi group witness his assist to TA at SB and realize why UE didn’t fancy him. Mr. Leno himself was also a master of basic goalkeeping errors, so he probably… Read more »

China1

Pierre what was so especially trying about wingers last 5 years? He had more money to spend than ever in his career before (and did so). And unlike in his early years where the fans saw us competing and had high expectations, half the fan base thought top 4 was now a trophy and we didn’t need to do better. It wasn’t until he lost the fans and the dressing room in his last 18 months that the hole he had dug himself became increasingly hard to get out of Even if you look at the trophies we won. Hey… Read more »

Nelson

As an Arsenal fan, I like Wenger Arsenal although Ivan and Wenger have screwed up the finance. The Arsenal DNA was still there. Emery destroyed the Arsenal DNA. Lots of fans were blinded by the dream that Emery could win the EL. Thank god that he is gone. We may have our Arsenal back.

Ernest Reed

Anyone that thinks, even for one millisecond, that todays state of affairs on the pitch and off are not a direct result of both Wenger and Gazidis systemic poor management, is full-on delusional. Hard Stop!

raptora

Hard agreed with Ernest.

Globalgunner

Pierre needs help. Wenger turned Arsenal into a laughing stock in Europe and a basket case at home. Yet he still yearns for him. Sad if not so pathetic.

Wenger was always trying to hard to make himself all knowing and indispensable. Buy Van Dyke, even when he was cheap as chips at Celtic……No I already have better players and all kinds of crap like that.