Arsenal leadership keeping the powder dry

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Arsenal drop points. Fans get depressed. Everything is shit.

Not at Le Grove, where it’s sunshine and praise for our Dear Leader.

Just kidding, but not.

It’s amazing how quickly some fans fall back into misery and rant about their high expectations not being met.

This season was tanked by Unai Emery, 18 months in the making, the worst start in 38 years. 4 weeks ago, we were bemoaning uncoachable players, now people are angry we’re not destroying teams in every game.

Arteta was hired into a mess, that mess is not going to be solved by this current squad of players right now, but the manager is making solid inroads and we have to take the small positives that will come game to game. This is what happened with Liverpool when Klopp took over, huge highs, some miserable lows, but all levelled out because the scousers had a path that was clear.

Arsenal didn’t put on a great show against Crystal Palace, but there were positives none the less.

Defensive resilience is something we’ve been absolutely begging for, we’re already making inroads there. I’ve read numerous fans state that we folded yesterday, which is simply not the case. Our level dropped for sure, Palace came back into the game, no doubt. But we didn’t fold. In fact, we created far more in the second half than we did in the first half when we dominated (6 attempts to 1).

Also, it’s important to remember the state of their goal. A ricochet over the top of Bernd Leno. It was very lucky. That’s reflected in the xG for yesterday. Arsenal were 1.08, which is not bad for an away game against a tough team, Palace were 0.31. They came back into the game but had nothing to show for it.

If you want to go back to last season when we played them away and drew, Palace had an xG of 2.38. In the home leg, when we were still in the hunt for top 4, they beasted us and recorded an xG of 2.54.

Point here, xG is working in our favour, the goal was unlucky and the numbers point out that the bad luck was the narrative of the game. We didn’t give them much to work with yesterday, we were harder to attack, and we kept their best player quiet using a right-back that hates the position so much he forced a red card under Emery so he didn’t have to play there. We also dealt with a very average referee.

Factor in the side played a brutal game against Leeds in the week with a full stack of seniors, on top of the reality of our new far more intense training regime, and well, you get the picture, it wasn’t that bad a day in the office.

Things aren’t looking very exciting in the transfer window.

“At the moment there is nothing coming up. The club is working on a few things but you know how difficult this window is and I’m not expecting many things.”

Poor Mikel, used to double our normal transfer budget for squad filler in January, he’s now being faced down with real-world economics… if you don’t sell players, you can’t buy them.

It’s a tough scenario here because most of us would have had a few players in mind to shift on, but Mikel has other plans. My guess is the market isn’t flush with talent and he’s likely weighing the bother of bringing in names that either aren’t playing right now, or will have to spend 3 months adapting to a league that is way faster than any of the others. I also wonder if part of the ‘coach them out of mediocrity’ is a sales pitch for summer signings. I’d go to a club that could make Xhaka a functioning player in the Premier League, that’s miracles right there.

Arsenal are not really chasing anything, so working with what we have isn’t the worst idea. I’m not sure there are many instances where panic buys in January work out. I’d be quite happy to see what a fully fit squad can do from now until the end of the season, then make aggressive moves in the summer, very, very early on. A Euros year isn’t exactly ideal, but hopefully, Edu and Cagigao can formulate ideas with Mikel early so we don’t end up going on a mad one with Don Raul taking reccos from the football mafia on who might or might not be a worldy.

I forgot to talk about the players leaving on loan. We have John-Jules heading out to Lincoln City, they sit 16th in the table in League One, so a huge job for him there, and hopefully some minutes. ESR has joined Huddersfield, who dropped from the Premier League, and now sit 20th in the Championship. Quite the fall from grace, you have to say, but again, far more chance ESR will land minutes. Eddie still hasn’t found a club, but there are rumours Villa and Norwich might be interested. I’d be fine with either, as long as he actually lands playing time. No point in warming someone else’s bench.

Right, that’s my lot for today, if you want the match report, it’s here.

Have a good one, see you in the comments!

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  1. Freddie Ljungberg

    Jamie

    That’s what the AKBs can’t admit, they think our downfall started 18 months ago and that Emery broke the club when all he did was fail to put the broken pieces together. That’s why all of the mental gymnastics and shooting down the reality that our squad is still poor even after 2 relatively successful transfer windows. There’s a lot more potential there now though so it still looks brighter than 18 months ago.

    They’re still on here defending the last of Wengers babies, the Xhakas, the Ozils, can’t have them being shit reflect badly on their master can we? No no, they’ve just been mismanaged, honest.
    So boring and it won’t stop until all the babies are purged, can’t fucking wait.

  2. Brooklyn

    Very bad tackle by Auba. Red card no doubt, but that wasn’t challenge with any malice. Unfortunately caught Meyer on his standing foot, but neither Meyer nor Auba were lunging(running at pace) for Auba to have being careful before going in for tackle.

    So maybe we can appeal to FA to shorten 3 match ban??

    Anyway, we controlled the game defensively, which has been consistent since Arteta arrived bar Leeds match.

    Why was Torreira subbed?? Injury?? But I think he would have been substituted anyway due to his inability to find Ozil by passing between the lines despite having plenty of time on the ball.

    Just check from about 5 minutes before we scored, it was frustrating to watch. Luiz took matters in his own hand getting in front of Torreira due to Palace’s lack of pressing and managed to pick out Ozil first time he attempted it. Result we score.

  3. Un na naai

    The league was less competitive the last time Wenger managed to get top 4, there’s far more money in quality in the mid and lower table teams now so we can’t just bully our way to the CL places anymore.

    Is that right Freddie?

    Liverpool and city are wiping the floor with them and racking up record points totals never seen in the league before

  4. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    You’re continuing your tour of stupidity I see.

    Liverpool and Man C are obviously a level above everyone else, I didn’t think I would have to write that out even for you.

    Doesn’t change the fact that the teams that used to be below us have a far higher quality of player and more money to spend than they used to.
    Most of them are also far more athletic than us so even when they can’t beat us in skill they just run over our sorry midfield.

  5. Nelson

    I think Nigel Pearson is a good coach. He may have problems dealing with the management. But his team is hard to beat on the pitch.

  6. Un na naai

    at least 20 of the 24 players in that squad needed replacing, that’s 10m per player, not exactly a recipe for success. That’s why we have so many unproven kids getting so much playing time. We might benefit from it in the long term but it’s not doing us any favours right now.

    This is what you wrote Freddy

    So let me ask again

    Wenger still had us in the top 6 with players you label as dross so either Raul and emery signed worse players than Wenger or Wenger is the better coach and tactician.Which is it?

    If your answer is the league has improved

    Why are the top teams winning more points than ever and are you saying it improved that much in just 18months if wenger leaving and emery nearing his end?

    Because wenger out performed emery in such a short time period. Emery also had a white Chelsea and untied to compete with and a CL distracted spurs

    Your arguments don’t stack up

  7. Bob N16

    Brooklyn, ‘Torreira would have been substituted anyway’.

    It’s amazing how people’s views can vary so greatly. I cannot be alone in thinking Torreira is, by a street, our most effective midfielder( at least when he’s allowed to plat to his strengths). He may have eventually been substituted in the last 10 minutes but the idea he was not playing well in the first half is a surprising view at best!

  8. Valentin

    Jamie,

    No the main problem was not getting rid of Wenger early enough it was to replace him by incompetent and inferior group of people.
    When David Dein left, we hired Gazidis who was supposed to be that great organiser on top of a commercial genius. It turned out that the guy was a cretin who could not organise a pissing contest in a brewery. We know it was not just an accident or bad luck, because He is repeating the same mistakes at Milan.
    Its biggest mistake was and is to surround himself with parasites who pretend to know football. At Arsenal and at Milan that has been exposed as his method of managing, surround yourself with advisors who know even less than him. After leaving a disastrous trail at Arsenal, that will be his downfall at Milan.
    Any good manager know that you may not live by your hiring, but you sure can die from hiring bad people.
    There is a say: A hires A, when B hires C.
    Gazidis hired Vinay and Raul. Hardly stellar individuals who could have outshine him.
    In a repeat of that proverb, Raul first big call was to hire Emery. Again hardly a stellar appointment nor a progressive one. Raul then went in a power play fight with Sven.
    After messing the recruitment of the coach and the players, he now hides behind Edu for all football decision.

    Anybody competent CEO would have confronted Wenger and imposed a better structure. That person would also have hired people with track record of success in that job, not track record of being hired because they are mate of the company director and then jumping from that position before they are sacked.

  9. Un na naai

    DonYou’re continuing your tour of stupidity I see.Liverpool and Man C are obviously a level above everyone else, I didn’t think I would have to write that out even for you.

    Fred
    There’s a level above.
    Then there’s record points totals. Which points to the league getting easier.
    Points totals have been getting higher and higher in the premier league since we won the title so if you’re claiming that indicates that the league is getting harder (it doesn’t) then wenger has been struggling in a league that he couldn’t financially compete in.

    Or did it only get really really hard the day wenger left and emery arrived?

    Or

  10. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    Do I have to fucking spell it out for you again dimwit, my god you’re dense.

    AGING and DECLINING players needed to be shifted out because of THEIR HIGH WAGES.

    Yes many of them were dross but there was a wealth of PL experience there that we have replaced with unproven kids. Still had to be done to lower the wage bill and rejuvenate the squad.

    Still making it about Emery I see, how predictable.

  11. Un na naai

    Remember Freddy

    You were calling those players dross THEN. Not in hindsight but right in the middle of a time you claimed the league was weaker yet we were still finishing in the top 4

  12. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    I started commenting here when it was announced Wenger was leaving, wanna prove that statement?

    The squad got progressively older and weaker the longer he stayed and yes, the teams below us have been getting stronger for a couple of years too.

    Do you need me to explain something else to you?

  13. Jamie

    Freddie –

    Agreed.

    Valentin –

    I should’ve put that previous comment in quotes. Those are Pedro’s words, not mine. You think he’s got it totally wrong with Wenger. Interesting. I don’t.

    I’m worried about drinking French beer now too. Didn’t know that’s where you boys hold your pissing contests.

  14. Freddie Ljungberg

    Some of the promoted teams spend more than we do on players and are not full of slow, old weaklings. Simple really.

    Are you actually arguing that teams like Leicester, Wolves etc doesn’t have at least a couple of players each that would walk into our first 11m? I would say it’s more than a couple.

  15. Pedro

    We always get back to squad poverty on here.

    I know CC and a group of others have done a good job in correcting the disgusting manipulation of the narrative, but here we go again.

    > This current squad is where it is because Unai Emery butchered it with bad coaching and bad man-management
    >> If Arteta had taken over this squad that was apparently poverty post Wenger, we’d have been a top 4 team last season… and we’d have signed better players in the summer.
    >> If Arteta had taken over at the start of this season, we’d be a top 4 side.

    He didn’t, we supported a manager a lot of the squad poverty merchants adored which led to the Great Season Opening Crisis of 2019.

    This squad is Unai Emery’s. It was not built for Mikel.

    Arteta came into real poverty, not your champagne socialist type of poverty Unai was dealing with, yet still, he’s flipped a whole load of bad narratives on their head in a month.

    LT is now a beast of a DM
    Mesut Ozil can and does run and works in a modern system
    Granit Xhaka is reinvigorated, a limited player, but at least he looks functional
    Kola is playing well
    AMN looks like he’ll keep his place at RB over Hector
    The whole squad that people said couldn’t be coached, is running through walls for the new manager
    We can now defend.
    The identity that we now have, which folks said should wait 18 months for, is in place in under a month

    No manager is going to turn a broken squad of players into title challengers over night, that doesn’t mean this squad wasn’t capable of top 4.

    Presenting ‘people are realising our squad needs work’ as a new idea that will one day spread to the masses really is laughable because no one, and I mean no one, has ever said, ‘my argument today is that we have reached squad perfection’

  16. Un na naai

    Freddie LjungbergJanuary 12, 2020 15:16:27
    DonDo I have to fucking spell it out for you again dimwit, my god you’re dense.AGING and DECLINING players needed to be shifted out because of THEIR HIGH WAGES.Yes many of them were dross but there was a wealth of PL experience there that we have replaced with unproven kids. Still had to be done to lower the wage bill and rejuvenate the squad.Still making it about Emery I see, how predictable.

    Freddie

    Yes you have to explain to me. So if it’s about premier league experience then they shouldn’t have signed players like licht, Suarez, Ceballos and Guendouzi?

    Also, are the youngsters like martinelli, Saka and willock not out performing the senior players with premier league experience in this league that’s got oh so tough in two years that newly promoted teams are beating large portions of them?

    This is fascinating
    Please
    Go on

  17. The backpass

    Batistuta

    “Roma are inconsistent and that’s why i don’t see top4 for them but who knows, looking like it’s a 3 horse race which is actually brilliant for us over here, better than whatever is being served up in England this season that’s for sure”

    Roma are very inconsistent, against Torino, they were actually lucky to lose 2-0 at home that day ( poor smalling), only Atalanta can make roma get into top 4.

    Definitely competitive than the Prem this season where we all just hoping Liverpool lose, so that our unbeaten record would remain intact.

    PS. Mhikitaryan really is a poor player, too many misplaced passes, scuffed shots and so.. Under no circumstances should he be back here next season.

  18. Freddie Ljungberg

    Pedro

    Seems like you wasted 10 years of your life chanting Wenger out if he left the squad in such a good shape and it was all Emerys fault after 18 months and limited input on transfers.

    I’m sure CC, Pierre and Don and the rest of the remaining AKBs are happy that you’ve totally changed your viewpoint and are absolving Wenger from all fuckups that are still holding us back to this day.

  19. Un na naai

    UnYour argument doesn’t make sense are you saying the league is or isn’t stronger now?

    Marc
    I’m not saying either way
    I’m just picking holes in Freddie L’s squad poverty argument. His attempts to wriggle out of it have lead us here

  20. Pedro

    Valentin, whatever you want to say about Ivan G, he had a good plan on paper.

    He originally wanted Arteta
    He hired in the football guy from Barca to make us more relevant with agents and clubs
    He hired diamond eyes to unearth top talent

    He didn’t see it through, bottled the coach, then didn’t set a succession plan which left a power vacuum we filled with muck.

    Jamie is right, we should have fired Wenger when Klopp and Pep were looking at us as potential clubs to join.

    The post-Wenger clean up should have started with an innovative coach, not a bum that couldn’t speak English.

    Now we’re in a good place. High-performance culture starts now.

  21. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    “licht, Suarez, Ceballos and Guendouzi?”

    what did those 4 players cost us and ehy didn’t we have money for more than 3 loans and a 19 year old from ligue 2 in important positions?

    Saka is doing ok as a makeshift LB, is he better than Monreal was the last time we got top 4? No, doesn’t mean we keep Monreal when he’s too old to perform for us anymore.

    So far in the league Martinelli has not reached Iwobis numbers or consistency no, I’m sure he will soon enough though.

    Willock is a bit part player that hasn’t really done much in the league thus far, hopefully he can step it up a level or 2.

    You do realise that the 7 players you mentioned cost us a combined transfer fee of 13m, that’s kind of the problem.

  22. Pedro

    Freddie, Emery worked in a brain trust, he didn’t have limited input.

    You wasted 18 months telling everyone it takes 18 months to implement an identity, that Emery can’t be blamed for bad coaching, and that English wasn’t important,

    We’re seeing an instant reaction to what a modern innovative coach can bring. If we’d brought that in 18 months ago, we’d be in the Champions League progressing with a better squad that would be built for the future.

  23. Lego Hair

    Freddie

    ‘ Seems like you wasted 10 years of your life chanting Wenger out if he left the squad in such a good shape and it was all Emerys fault after 18 months and limited input on transfers.’

    Are you really this dense?
    The squad wasn’t good enough for a title challenge but it was easily good enough to challenge for top 4. It’s that simple.

  24. Un na naai

    I’m sure CC, Pierre and Don and the rest of the remaining AKBs are happy that you’ve totally changed your viewpoint and are absolving Wenger from all fuckups that are still holding us back to this day.

    Nobody is absolving anything but while we acknowledge wenger needed to go we are also aware that his replacement was WORSE. That Arteta or anyone for that matter would have been better than emery and we are now so low in the table because of him.

    Yes emery is being brought up. Why do you think dummy? How can you with a straight face say claim that it’s legitimately wenger’s fault when we’ve changed 20/24 of the squad as you wanted and the new manager made us worse

    You said wenger’s squad was ageing yet now it’s filled with young and hungry athletes and had a coach you claim to be superior and a transfer team who knew what they were doing.
    Yet we went on the worst run of form in 40 years

    Your answer to all of this is that the league got really super super haaaard in the summer of 2018???

    Please keep going Freddie
    This is the best entertainment I’ve had on here in months and months

  25. Brooklyn

    Bob Marc,
    Re: Torreira

    Defensively sure, he is our best midfielder by mile. My comment was regarding the fact that Palace for first 30 min did nothing offensively gave tons of space for us till half way line, he was very weak in this instance.

    All the time in the world, bring ball forward couple of yard pass the ball back to CB’s or AMN. Couple of time he lost control of ball just turning in circle without any pressure, thankfully managed to win foul before Ayew was able to Nick it.

    Anyway unlike you guys I am not talking overall picture/their career as CDM, just this game. Palace didn’t really attack, he had decent game defensively. Palace gave him all the time with ball but he didn’t manage anything with it.

    That for me is poor. Overall sure looking at Arsenal’s weak midfield defensively, he is our most valuable midfielder currently.

  26. The backpass

    Benfica made and offer for Bruno guimaeres for €20 million +10 % of future sale.

    I haven’t watched him apart from youtube but it is said that he is currently the best player or midfielder in brazil.

    Martinelli made quite a jump, so can Bruno, we should be all over this deal imo.

  27. Pedro

    ‘The squad wasn’t good enough for a title challenge but it was easily good enough to challenge for top 4. It’s that simple.’

    Yes.

  28. Champagne charlie

    “I’m sure CC, Pierre and Don and the rest of the remaining AKBs are happy that you’ve totally changed your viewpoint and are absolving Wenger from all fuckups that are still holding us back to this day.“

    It’s 2020 and “AKB” is still a thing, what a marvel.

    What is ‘holding us back to this day’ thanks to Wenger exactly?

    And what are we being back from doing?

  29. Un na naai

    The squad got progressively older and weaker the longer he stayed and yes, the teams below us have been getting stronger for a couple of years too.

    Freddy
    So why are newly promoted teams earning more points now than they used to?
    In the day they were usually straight into a relegation scrap for at least the first year
    Not any more

  30. Rich

    More nonsense from Pedro.

    We drew 1-1 with injury ravaged Bournemouth.

    We played well for 30 minutes against Chelsea, Lampard reacted, Arteta failed to react, and we got dominated for 60 minutes, and rightly got beaten.

    We played well for 40 minutes against United, then fought well, but United aren’t a side who do well chasing a game, first goal was crucial.

    We got dominated with a strong team, at home to a Chanpionship club for 45 minutes, where Leeds should have been out of sight.

    We played well for 30 minutes against Palace, who had 12 injuries, and reacted pretty well to going down to 10.

    Ozil is finished, Arteta is just giving him enough rope to hang himself with.

    According to Ornstein only Guendouzi was a Emery signing in 2018, the rest were Mislintat.

    And also the signings this summer, weren’t Emery’s top targets either, this summer was on Raul.

    Emery wanted Zaha, he got Pepe.
    He wanted Partey, he didn’t get a centre mid.
    He wanted a right back, didn’t get one…..
    Wanted money spent on a centre back, got Luiz for £7 mill

    Ornstein seems the most connected, and never puts on click bait, these were not Emery signings.

    Just more nonsense from Pedro….

  31. Freddie Ljungberg

    Pedro.

    Did he have limited input compared to Wenger or not? Very much so no, that was the whole point of the new structure you have been advocating.

    I haven’t said a word about identity, that would be you.

    Never said Emery can’t be blamed for bad coaching either, he can’t be blamed for bad players though. If you think Xhaka and Ozil are going to keep this up you haven’t watched them the last 3p years. They can’t hack it as soon as they’re pressed and that won’t change with coaching.

    Still strange that you pivoted so hard from Wenger is the root of all our problems and our recruiting, contracts and fitness was a mess ( which was all correct) to 18 months later state that Emery broke the wonderful squad.

    Inconsistency at it’s finest.

    I back any manager coming in at the club equally btw until they have proven they can’t hack it. I don’t care about their hair, or their teeth or their language skills. If they can’t do the job kick them out, just don’t see the need to exaggerate about someone who was here for a measly 18 months and failed.

  32. The backpass

    Lego hair

    “Are you really this dense?
    The squad wasn’t good enough for a title challenge but it was easily good enough to challenge for top 4. It’s that simple.”

    What of this present squad?. I honestly need your opinion. Is it a top 4 squad?

  33. Marc

    Brooklyn

    If we’re dominating possession and Palace are sitting back why are you highlighting Torreira as the weak link? What was Xhaka doing? Why wasn’t Ozil demanding the ball more? Why weren’t the other 10 players passing to Ozil?

  34. Nelson

    Sarr was not happy being subbed out. Nigel Pearson held him with both hands and gave him a lecture before letting him go to his seat. I like this coach. He acts like a general.

  35. Un na naai

    Freddie LjungbergJanuary 12, 2020 15:44:16
    Pedro.Did he have limited input compared to Wenger or not? Very much so no, that was the whole point of the new structure you have been advocating.I haven’t said a word about identity, that would be you.Never said Emery can’t be blamed for bad coaching either, he can’t be blamed for bad players though. If you think Xhaka and Ozil are going to keep this up you haven’t watched them the last 3p years. They can’t hack it as soon as they’re pressed and that won’t change with coaching.

    Freddie
    So the players that emery had signed for him are worse than the players wenger had or Wenger was the superior coach working with a shite squad that he put together?

    Glad we’ve cleared that up

  36. Marc

    Pedro

    “He didn’t see it through, bottled the coach”

    Hang on mate that doesn’t go with your anti Sanllehi agenda. I thought it was Sanllehi who was single handedly responsible for picking Emery.

  37. Pedro

    Freddie, no inconsistency at all.

    Unai Emery had a say on the squad. The model I advocated for is the modern structure that doesn’t focus too much power in one persons hands. The idea that Emery didn’t have a say on what he needed is absurd and incorrect. Where do you think Denis Suarez came from?

    The Emery era saw 200m of investment. 18 months on, Wenger isn’t relevant.

    As many people keep pointing out. We weren’t title ready, we were top 4 ready. We blew it with a collapse for the ages.

    Arteta in at the start of either season, we’re in the top 4, with the same players.

  38. Pedro

    Marc, Ivan bottled the decision, Raul came in with the recco of Emery. Raul might have been the person in the ear of Ivan in the first place if the Athletic is to be believed.

  39. Brooklyn

    Oh and caught an article regarding that CM from Lille.

    Sounds like Pogba, without his offensive contribution. Article mentioned that he was 44th rank for defensive actions for player with more than 1000 minutes in Ligue 1.

    Now, I have not watched him extensively, and don’t mind him if Arteta thinks he is required for team balance, because he seems to have good technical ability and physique and decent work rate. But like Pogba, he doesn’t seem too enthusiastic about doing dirty defensive work for the team, you know marking, tracking runners from midfield, covering ground horizontally etc.

  40. Valentin

    Marc,

    Thanks for the correction.
    I am a Rhum man myself, most beer tastes like piss to me. English beer being the worst as warm piss.
    I was told that I was gluten intolerant by my GP. So stop drinking whisky and bourbon. 10 years later, a consultant told me that I was not gluten intolerant, I just had a gut bacterial infection that had the same symptom: reaction to bread and gluten. So I may go start drinking whisky again, still no beer.

  41. Freddie Ljungberg

    Aubergine

    “The squad wasn’t good enough for a title challenge but it was easily good enough to challenge for top 4. It’s that simple”

    We challenged for top 4 last season dummy, look at the table. And then we lowered the wage bill by 45m…

    Don

    We haven’t replaced 20/24 players yet and even when we will most by necessity will be kids, because for some strange reason we don’t have that much money, guess the 45m we cut off the wage bill and the further 18m a year we’ll lose when we can finally ship Ozil will help a little with that though.

    CC

    Yes, shockingly the term AKB still exists 18 months after the cult leader left, especially when some of the remaining members are still driven by the need to whitewash the great ones legacy.

  42. CG

    Another Great post PedRo – many thanks.

    Arsenal have won 3 games in 17.

    Quite simply( leaving aside Arteta) it means the following.

    The Head of Footballing is failing
    The Teck Deck is failing
    The scouts are failing
    The players ( mostly ) are not good enough
    The owners are failing.

    And we have no money left.
    (Injudisciouly wasted by Raul on a concoction of assorted players from Europe)

    Eg. Cebollas.

    British Press stating that Arteta sees ‘onions’ playing in a different position than what the Clown did.

    But we allow The Spiv( who has never coached of kick a ball) to select the players for the coaches to build their teams around….

    How bloody ludicrous is it?
    That is GUARANTEED FAILURE- right there.

    Arteta might be brilliant- its actually irrelevant who is in charge.

    This is club is going absolutely nowhere….( unless we return the old Arsenal way of a proper Board of Directors and omnipotent manager( eg Mee/Graham/Wenger)

    Level with the likes of Saints and below promoted Sheff Utd illustrate that

    It may be negative and uninspiring…..but unfortunately it’s The Truth.

  43. The backpass

    “Hang on mate that doesn’t go with your anti Sanllehi agenda. I thought it was Sanllehi who was single handedly responsible for picking Emery”.

    LOL..

    These things do get mixed up, tomorrow we are going to be told another thing.

  44. Lego Hair

    Backpass

    ‘ What of this present squad?. I honestly need your opinion. Is it a top 4 squad?’

    Read what has been written. Yes. This squad is good enough to compete for top 4.

    Emery made sure we didn’t achieve that. Killed the confidence of the squad and gave us an inferiority complex.

  45. Marc

    Valentin

    It was an amusing mis-speak.

    Fucking doctors are a menace – I’m sure that they spend half their lives pushing whatever is the latest fad in medicine rather than actually looking at what the problem actually is.

  46. Valentin

    Brooklyn,

    Are you talking about Boubakary Soumaré?
    He is different from Pogba in that he can play defensive midfielder. Also he lacks the long killer pass. What he is very good at is small spaces and at breaking lines.
    Imagine Vieira with the feet of Cazorla. He is closer to what Diaby was than Pogba.

  47. Un na naai

    We haven’t replaced 20/24 players yet and even when we will most by necessity will be kids, because for some strange reason we don’t have that much money, guess the 45m we cut off the wage bill and the further 18m a year we’ll lose when we can finally ship Ozil will help a little with that though.

    Freddie

    We’ve let 18 players go and brought in 19 since wenger left
    We also let theo sanchez ox and Giroud go before he left and brought in Mkhitaryan, Lacazette, Kolasinac and Aubameyang.

    That’s a complete squad overhaul with only ozil, xakha, Mustafi and holding remaining.

    And you were just complaining about that squad being too old. Now it’s too young. Which is it?
    And if 20-21 is too young why are you whining for soumare and upamencano who are both kids too?

  48. Jamie

    CG –

    “Arteta might be brilliant- its actually irrelevant who is in charge.

    This is club is going absolutely nowhere….( unless we return the old Arsenal way of a proper Board of Directors and omnipotent manager( eg Mee/Graham/Wenger)”

    Going nowhere under Arteta? Need a return of the omnipotent Wenger?

    What is that fermented piss they brew in the townships outside JoBurg? Some kind of rank milky shit. Whatever it is, lay off it CG. You’re a hot mess.

  49. robel yonas from addis

    Arsenal need to give young english kids a chance and buy more english stars until that changes we won’t win the league. Look at Liverpool they had five to six english and British players contributing to their success. We are not united nation, we are an English club. I amnot a UK citzien , I am Ethiopian. But that’s what I feel. Identity is the key to build successful foundations.

  50. The backpass

    Pedro

    “The idea that Emery didn’t have a say on what he needed is absurd and incorrect. Where do you think Denis Suarez came from?”

    If i remebered correctly, he actually wanted Perisic but due to no money mantra, he was actually given suarez

  51. Freddie Ljungberg

    “The Emery era saw 200m of investment. 18 months on, Wenger isn’t relevant.”

    Ok, so the fact that he didn’t replace aging players in time, didn’t sell when he had the chance and instead let myriad players run down their contracts, inflated our wage bill to ridiculous levels and emptied our piggy bank on shite like Xhaka, Mustafi and the likes has no bearing on what we are trying to achieve now?

    We lowered the wage bill out of sheer fun instead of necessity then. We had to sell 4 players on average to afford 1 replacement because we felt charitable I guess.

    Interesting…

  52. Un na naai

    Perisic but due to no money mantra, he was actually given suarez

    Yeah
    Perisic, Suarez, Ceballos, Nzonzi, Banega.

    Emery had a real eye for a premier league player.

  53. Brooklyn

    Marc,
    You should re:watch number of times Ozil had hand up in air asking for ball when Torreira and Sok had possession.

    Ozil is tasked to play in right half space to connect with Pepe, Xhaka was playing as virtual LB, played numerous ball into Kola and Auba in his side far deeper than Torreira managed. Xhaka and Luiz also were given less freedom by opposition to move upfield than Torreira and Sok.

    Not asking Torreira to pinge ball like prime Fabregas, he should be able to atleast be able to pick out passes in-between lines when given so much time.

    So, what if opposition marks our left side(Luiz, Xhaka and Kola) tightly, should it be acceptable that the likes of Torreira and AMN(supposed midfielder) being unable to play the ball forward with so much time and space??

  54. Lego Hair

    Freddie

    ‘ We challenged for top 4 last season dummy, look at the table. And then we lowered the wage bill by 45m…’

    And emery’s arse dropped from being 3 to the biggest collapse we’ve suffered as a club in years. The players had this but the manager decided to prioritise the EL like a daft cunt.

    So yes last year we had a top 4 squad and last summer, according to the guys that love shiny new toys…we won the summer transfer window. Would that not mean we would improve on where we finished last season? Yes is the answer you’re looking for you fucking moron.

    Thanks emery.

  55. CG

    As the season drags and the injuries bite.

    My assessment that Watford have a better array and depth of forward players than AFC once again show why CG sustains a quite remarkable 87.4% accuracy in the FFM

    Deeney, Gray, Sarr,Defolulu,Success ,our Danny…..we have only PEA/laca and a 19 year Brazilian -people rank far too highly

    And we still have this ridiculous notion to loan out Eddie !!!!

    We have 2 centre forward on our books!

    Absolutely clueless this club.

  56. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    Playing kids from the academy and buying players that are proven at a high, senior level, and has played in Europe isn’t the same. Even you should grasp that.

    Kos, Monreal, Cech, Per, Santi, etc all too old and had to leave, or retire. Some where too broken to keep, like your favorite Wilshere who you still think should be at the club hoovering up 100k+ in wages playing xbox.

  57. Batistuta

    Back pass

    Mikhitryan started quite well to be fair but he’s reverted back to type which is just about his level, same can be said for about half our squad, but shush though, Pierre should be around soon to tell you how it was a mistake we let him go

  58. Pedro

    Freddie,

    Not sure what you are arguing here.

    Have we been perfect in our execution? No

    Have we had enough to be top 4? Yes

    Would Arteta in at the start have made a huge difference? Yes

    You hire a coach to extract the best from what they have, that wasn’t Emery, he compounded the errors of Wenger and made people like you believe coaching wasn’t important and players/systems can’t improve output.

  59. Un na naai

    Freddie

    Why are you avoiding the question?

    I’ll repeat
    If the league suddenly got tougher the moment emery took over then why are newly promoted teams earning more points than at any stage before?

  60. robel yonas from addis

    Right now let’s play saka, AMN, willock, holding, and build on that give them a chance, look at rashford he is not great but he is getting a chance now 200 games he will be like Rooney when he matures, we need to build an english identity in an english league and in an English club, pedro what is your take on these, British youth project two under a good young coach. What do think?

  61. Valentin

    Marc,

    To be fair to my GP, he did offer me to take the coeliac test to be sure. However in order to take the test, I would have had to go back on a Gluten diet for 3 month and get sick.
    As there is no cure for coeliac disease I passed on the offer. The only benefit of passing the test would have been to have the official coeliac intolerant card and get gluten free pasta as prescription on the NHS.
    I told him, I could rather buy gluten free pasta at supermarket price instead of asking the NHS to pay for marked-up pasta.

  62. Champagne charlie

    I’ll be really clear with this top 4 quality stuff that’s getting twisted beyond belief….

    Here is a decades worth of data concerned with the points total needed to land 4th spanning 2010-2019:

    *4th place average of 71.3 points (high of 76, low of 66)*

    Please spare the nonsense about us not having enough in the squad to get top 4 last season given we were able to return 70 points.

    Your anecdotes about how much you hate so and so, or them not being suited doesn’t stand up to the data that explains precisely what performance threshold is ‘top 4 quality’. 70+ points is very much in that category no matter whose feelings are hurt as a result.

    The question of last season is then turned to whether Emery got the most out of the season, and the answer to that is pretty impossible to argue. Plain and simple.

  63. Freddie Ljungberg

    Aubergine

    I think you’re confusing me with someone who cares about Emery. Yes we collapsed at the end.

    Not sure it was because we prioritised the EL though, we had a bare bones squad at that point due to injuries and the rest ran out of steam. Yes, Emery didn’t make things better with his chopping and changing and muddled tactics but surely a top 4 squad should be able to get 1 win in 5 against lower placed teams?
    I’m not absolving the manager from the collapse and I’m sure as hell not going to do it with the squad.

  64. The backpass

    I actually think we have a top 6 squad and not a top 4 squad presently, its left to the manager to lift it up to top 4 in which Emery failed.

    This season we actually dont have a top 4 squad..

    Liverpool, leicester, man.city, chelsea, tottenham ( they have been above us for 3 seasons now) have better squad than arsenal.

    So forgive me for not understanding that having the 6th best squad makes it magically a top 4 squad.

  65. Bob N16

    Brooklyn , as Marc rightly points out, the target for your frustration at our lack of creativity shouldn’t be targetted at our most effective midfielder, whose defensive role is vital.

    Torreira is quick-witted and technically proficient and that allows him to successfully play 1/2 touch football. Ozil, Xhaka, Pepe Lacazette are the four main outlets from his side of the pitch ( AMN was sticking to Zaha). If he couldn’t find a progressive pass it was much more to do with the running and movement of the players I’ve highlighted.

  66. Un na naai

    Freddie LjungbergJanuary 12, 2020 16:04:07
    DonPlaying kids from the academy and buying players that are proven at a high, senior level, and has played in Europe isn’t the same. Even you should grasp that.Kos, Monreal, Cech, Per, Santi, etc all too old and had to leave, or retire. Some where too broken to keep, like your favorite Wilshere who you still think should be at the club hoovering up 100k+ in wages playing xbox.

    Freddie

    Leno
    Martinez
    Cech
    Koscielney
    Monreal
    Chambers
    Licht
    Kolasinac
    Torreira
    Holding
    Luiz
    Sokratis
    Mustafi
    Bellerin
    Tierney
    Xakha
    Torreira
    Ramsey
    Ozil
    Suarez
    Ceballos
    Cazorla
    Pepe
    Iwobi
    Mkhitaryan
    Welbeck
    Aubameyang
    Lacazette

    27 senior players with experience that emery has had access to in his 18 months says you’re chatting shit mate.

    Only AMN willock martinelli Saka and nelson have got near the first team and only occasionally outside of AMN.

    You’re talking bollocks

  67. Wenker-wanger

    Agree with Freddy….Emery was an upgrade on the absolutely piss poor Wenger….another 2 seasons of Wenger and we would’ve plummeted down to the bottom half of the league.
    Emery went on a 20+ unbeaten run…..that looks an impossibility now…or when Wenger was in charge.
    Hey but wait….that does not ,DOES NOT translate into meaning that I think emery was a good manager….clearly he wasn’t…he lost the dressing room…a situation impossible to fix.
    He took over a bunch of players used to having Mr soft-touch Wenger pandering around them….emery couldn’t follow that. Tactically I saw a plan…pressing up top..and playing out from the back…not appropriate with heavy footed slower centre backs and midfield players unable to receive the ball and hold off the opposition…but there was a tactic that was attempted.
    Arteta looks an upgrade on Wenger,,,+emery combined….but the squad isn’t any better than wolves Chelsea Leicester and Tottenham…. That puts as probably as a team in the 7th-10,th bracket.
    We should all acknowledge our current limitations…but any comment that shows Wenger in a good light just shocks me…..Mr Magoo was a nightmare at the end.
    No one seems to want him managing their club do they,????

  68. James wood

    Marc 15.55
    Consultants are worse the so called specialists.
    My previous early Dec ear infection worsened
    After 4 days on an anti biotic drip and a CT scan
    I was discharged in extreme pain.
    18 days later I was re admitted the scan had been read wrongly
    I had necrosis of the skull from the inner ear infection .
    The wrong type of anti biotic tablet had been given.
    I have since been treated from home daily by a nurse who changes
    the pump giving me 24 hour cover of Anti biotic.infusion.
    How can something be missed by one consultant and picked up straight away by another.?
    My visit Friday I had the pump my friend removed the consultant did not have my notes so he was completely in the dark as to what has been going on.?
    I am over my infection but have been left completely deaf in my left ear so I
    don’t have to listen to you stunts.😳.
    NHS not for me anymore

  69. Brooklyn

    Valentin,
    Yeah him. Yeah seems to have good ability to beat a man and play line breaking passes. Positionally seems to be DM(DLP??) but not very good defensively.

    That article mentioned another 29(can’t remember his name) year old midfielder who would do dirty work for the team. Point is statistically as well as by eye test he seems to be poor midfielder defensively(like Pogba) but without Pogba’s final ball(long balls, assist, goals).

    Soumare seems like by virtue of playing in deeper midfield role won’t be caught upfield(unlike Pogba), but like Xhaka and Pogba let’s his man slip by due to him being disinterested/lacking awareness defensively despite being in good position to take a defensive action.

  70. Un na naai

    Freddie says the squad was too old before
    But now it’s too young.
    Except emery has had access to 27 senior players (excluding 21 year olds and under) over the course of his 18 months

    He says that wenger ruined the club by making woeful signings but they are all but gone and he achieved better than emery with an inferior team

    Nothing you argue stands up to the slightest scrutiny Freddie. It’s round 6 and you’re against the ropes with no teeth and a couple of black eyes. Throw in the towel before you humiliate yourself further

  71. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    Go bother someone else with your juvenile bullshit. What has our squad and the teams around us got to do with the newly promoted teams and how many points they get?

    Could it be that the newly promoted teams have more money and better quality players then they used to have too? I can’t be bothered to check back again but I’m sure there was 1 or 2 newly promoted teams that outspent us before last season, they don’t have to make do on a song and a prayer anymore.

    Before it was 4 teams that could get top 4, Leicester was an anomaly, it was pretty much the same team every year except that one. Now there’s a lot more teams capable of a top 4 finish. Do you get it now?

    We are one of those teams btw, if all the stars align and our new signings adapt and the kids improve, still hardly favourites for a top 4 spot. I would like us to have that as a minimum requirement, with this squad it’s the most we can accomplish, excuse me if I don’t live in fairy land where coaching is going to change that anytime soon.
    3-4 top quality signings would though after the work that has already been done on the squad.

  72. CG

    PedRo

    “”””CG, your doom mongering had us being relegated 3 weeks ago.
    Now Watford have a better attack””

    They have a better pool of forwards yes.
    Individually our 2 are better, clearly

    As for relegation- its looking a lot less unlikely since MA arrived- it was looking a certainty before.

    One thing- I have been persistent though.

    If you think we are bad this year – wait till next year.

    The money has gone…..and when MA lustre goes with it……..we will be back in midtable at best.

  73. Un na naai

    Go bother someone else with your juvenile bullshit. What has our squad and the teams around us got to do with the newly promoted teams and how many points they get?

    Freddie

    You mean you’ve made a prick of yourself and you’re embarrassed?
    I’m merely reflecting your own inept points back at you.

    “Before it was 4 teams that could get top 4, Leicester was an anomaly, it was pretty much the same team every year except that one. Now there’s a lot more teams capable of a top 4 finish. Do you get it now?“

    Freddie
    Aah
    So it’s the top 6 that’s got tougher? Not the league? You not knackered? Keep moving those goal posts all day!! 😂

  74. Valentin

    CC,

    Monreal looked awful in his last season, because he kept getting exposed against speedy wingers. Our setup under Emery was so poor that our fullback were asked to provide width and overlapping runs while nobody was there to provide cover on the space they had vacated. No wonder out fullback always like they were caught upfield. Under Arteta the team slides to the left. Xhaka takes Kolasinac position, AMN move slightly up to block passes.
    Monreal was not agitating for a move like Koscielny was. We could have keep him an extra year. It is not like Tierney had played a lot since his arrival.
    The problem was a mix of bad coaching (see how AMN looks half decent under proper instructions) and bad planning (see how both Monreal and Mhkitaryan left against Emery’s wishes).

  75. Un na naai

    Could it be that the newly promoted teams have more money and better quality players then they used to have too? I can’t be bothered to check back again but I’m sure there was 1 or 2 newly promoted teams that outspent us before last season, they don’t have to make do on a song and a prayer anymore.

    Freddie
    But the teams already in the league would have far more money than they did previously with already established and highly paid squads.

    Surely that makes it harder to break into?
    😂 😂 😂

  76. The backpass

    “He says that wenger ruined the club by making woeful signings but they are all but gone and he achieved better than emery with an inferior team”

    They are all gone..the chief culprits are still in the building.

    Mustafi, xhaka, kolasinac and now Ozil is done at the highest level and lacazette that cant score 15 league goals?

  77. Sid

    Re: the CM from lille, he’s weak in the defensive side of things,
    its better to get a player who is strong defensively like Sangare and encourage him to improve his attacking side.

  78. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    Keep on believing that this is an Emery argument if you like, I couldn’t give less of a shit honestly. I’m not here to defend anything he did or didn’t do, although the rewriting of reality is a bit tedious.

    Leno
    Martinez
    Cech
    Koscielney
    Monreal
    Chambers
    Licht
    Kolasinac
    Torreira
    Holding
    Luiz
    Sokratis
    Mustafi
    Bellerin
    Tierney
    Xakha
    Torreira
    Ramsey
    Ozil
    Suarez
    Ceballos
    Cazorla
    Pepe
    Iwobi
    Mkhitaryan
    Welbeck
    Aubameyang
    Lacazette

    Yeah, that’s a cracking group of players alright. Can we keep on upgrading so we can improve more than incrementally? its not like the other teams in the league are standing around with their thumb up their arse watching us trying to coach Xhaka into not needing a hip replacement.

    You do understand though that if you replace settled, PL experienced players in masse, with kids and new signings that needs time to adapt we’re unlikely to see immediate results but it will still benefit us in the long run? That’s why most top teams doesn’t change out too many starters at once, would be nice to be in that position again, been a while.

    Maybe not, but I’m sure Arteta is grateful that most of the spring cleaning is already done.

  79. Lego Hair

    Freddy

    ‘ I think you’re confusing me with someone who cares about Emery. Yes we collapsed at the end.Not sure it was because we prioritised the EL though, we had a bare bones squad at that point due to injuries and the rest ran out of steam. Yes, Emery didn’t make things better with his chopping and changing and muddled tactics but surely a top 4 squad should be able to get 1 win in 5 against lower placed teams?’

    Give it up you’re having a mare here son.
    Emery prioritised the Europa to the detriment of the league no ifs and buts that was evident with his line ups. A top 4 squad wasn’t utilised to its potential in the league as the manager at the time didn’t view the final 6 leagues as important as EL quarters and semis.

    To say you don’t care about emery you’ve certainly got enough excuses for him.

  80. Un na naai

    now?We are one of those teams btw, if all the stars align and our new signings adapt and the kids improve, still hardly favourites for a top 4 spot. I would like us to have that as a minimum requirement, with this squad it’s the most we can accomplish, excuse me if I don’t live in fairy land where coaching is going to change that anytime soon.
    3-4 top quality signings would though after the work that has already been done on the squad.

    Freddie
    So the top 6 is tougher in the last two years because there is so much money coming into those clubs but emery and Raul went backwards despite the money pouring in and 3 transfer windows to iron wenger out and 18 players leaving?

    The squad was too old and now it’s too young even though we have only 5 players in the first team of 21 and below and Wenger outperformed emery with a worse squad of old or incompetent players?

    You’re pretty much winning my argument for me
    Nice one
    😂 😂 😂

  81. CG

    Rambo v Mikky tonight
    Juventus v Roma.

    Great that Raul gives top experience professionals ( not including the likes of Monreal and Kos)
    Away for nothing to Champions League clubs.
    Something we wont be entering for a minimum of 4-6 seasons

    With no PEA or Laca next week- been invaluable to have some further options.

    Clueless club going absolutely nowhere as it is currently structured.

    I’ll state the truth- the rest can keep posting fairy tales.

  82. Freddie Ljungberg

    Aah
    “So it’s the top 6 that’s got tougher? Not the league? You not knackered? Keep moving those goal posts all day!! 😂”

    What positions are we fighting for dumbshit? Seriously, when I thought you couldn’t get any dumber you just keep outdoing yourself well done little Donski.

  83. Un na naai

    Yeah, that’s a cracking group of players alright.

    Freddie
    And yet wenger did more with less
    You just keep making my arguments for me.
    Feeling generous today? 😂

  84. Sid

    Another day on le grove, the boys competing about which crush has better boobies, (emery) who got a better behind (Mikel) and offcourse Wenger got the best poonani

    You heard it here 1st

  85. Marko

    Top 4 quality going on 4 seasons in the Europa League. Doesn’t seem right does it. I think now I might be wrong but I think it’s one of those examples of the Arsenal fanbase overrating and glorifying their squad because they got the blinkers on. Anyway if it’s top 4 quality there’s no need to add anything this month and there should be very little movement in the summer. Just as well as it’ll likely be a season without European football and with the most meager of budgets. Not to worry we’ll add to it by selling the Champions League quality players we’ve got on champions league wages. What am I talking about it’s top 4 quality as is we don’t need to do that don’t need to do much. Mikel has the tools at his disposal.

  86. Un na naai

    Emery prioritised the Europa to the detriment of the league no ifs and buts that was evident with his line ups.

    Lego
    This is exactly it. He also sabotaged Torreira and our midfield to deliberately prove a point

    Both are examples of how emery put himself and his reputation before the welfare of the club.

  87. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    18 plyers that we got very little money for. That’s the main point here. It’s not like we could replace everyone that left with top quality players was it? For every 4 players leaving we could buy 1 proper replacement and then take chances on youth signings, promotions and stop gaps. God your dense as fuck. No point going through this any more, you have the mental capacity of a slow 5 year old.

    Aubergine

    Most of the line ups at the end was forced by injuries and suspensions, see what I said about rewriting reality.

    We still should have done better and Emery rightly got sacked, no big deal.

  88. Un na naai

    MarkoJanuary 12, 2020 16:36:17
    Top 4 quality going on 4 seasons in the Europa League. Doesn’t seem right does it. I think

    Marko
    Same with Leicester
    Now they are second without a £200m outlay in 18 months
    How on earth did that happen?

  89. Graham62

    CG

    What does it feel like CG?

    You’ve managed to control all your frustrations and anger for a decade or more and now you’re letting it all out with these daily rants.

    I suppose when you’ve accepted regression for as long as you have, these past eighteen months have at least enabled you to unleash your true feelings.

    Just let it all out.

  90. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    Never said I haven’t been here for longer, been reading for about 13 years now. Only been commenting since the day Wenger got fired though.

  91. Brooklyn

    Valentin,
    Re: Soumare,
    Although I don’t post much, I enjoy visiting Le Grove.

    Just pointing out that some posters here like defensively astute players in base of our midfield. They would be on him within few match if said article, probably by someone who watches Ligue 1 regularly, is on point.

    Now, can’t fault some who are frustrated at our defensive record by virtue of trying to play fluid football.

    We have not seen fluid football at Arsenal with right tactics/players. It can be as effective defensively with DLP or pure DM if team is in sync and there is right balance in the team.

    Now, I don’t really care if we play peak Mourinho/Conte ball or Guardiola/Tuchel ball, as long as team achieves/overachieves relative to our squad strength. As such I don’t have choice relatively to a player at base of midfield with 8-9/10 defensive ability and 6-7/10 technical ability or vice versa.

  92. CG

    Jamie

    “””Shut the fuck up, CG. No one wants to read your constant negativity.”””

    Sorry ,Not my fault Jamie that :

    We are broke,midtable, unable to beat Palace in 4 games, have no centre forwards for next week, no chance of winning the title again for a decade and are level with a team that lost 9 zero at home.

    I am annoyed as much as you.

    But I’ll take it on board.

  93. Un na naai

    Freddie

    There go those goal posts again

    He got very little money for?? Yet he spent more money in 3 windows than any arsenal manager in history to add to two £50m strikers.

    He managed to add 19 new players to the team in that time while losing 18
    So are you saying that the old and shit dross players he sold for pittance are/were better than their replacements now? If so why sell?
    Why did they not make money on Ramsey and welbz as soon as emery came in? They were fit with a year left.
    Why did they let Cazorla leave for free?
    We managed to nab £45m for bielik and Iwobi. Surely they could have made something similar on welbz and Ramsey?

    And even so none of it matters because in your eyes we have improved the squad anyway right?
    As you said in the summer and the early games of the season

    So why did emery fail?

  94. Un na naai

    Freddie LjungbergJanuary 12, 2020 16:39:46
    DonNever said I haven’t been here for longer, been reading for about 13 years now. Only been commenting since the day Wenger got fired though.

    Freddie
    Likely story
    Maybe you’re Don???

  95. Lego Hair

    Marko

    You keep on with the sarcasm it’s on par with your big whoop analysis.

    You haven’t a clue. About anything. Go ask Alexa for response you muppet.

  96. Chika

    Can’t really believe people are still claiming player poverty. Do we need to improve the squad? Definitely. Is the present squad good enough for top 4? Absolutely.

    No matter how difficult it is for some of you to admit, the reality is, Emery drained and shattered our players, and the fraud should have been kicked out at the end of last season.

  97. Marko

    Not Normski or Aubergine pipe down before you have to change name again you retard you literally don’t debate you latch on to whatever dumbass contrarian is on at the time. Don in this case has a nice fluffer.

  98. Freddie Ljungberg

    “Maybe he’s aubergine?”

    Nah
    I’m not nasty or stupid enough.

    “Maybe you’re Don???”

    Nah

    I’m not nasty or stupid or racist enough.

  99. Marko

    Quickly Charles dogpile dogpile it’s how you win arguments lad. I’ve seen the light and I’m agreeing with you we don’t need signings and we don’t need much in the summer. Top 4 quality squad and a preseason under Mikel we should be all guns blazing next season and get top 4. Then we’ll have to spend some though not least because some players will be out of contract but because year two is the title tilt and he’ll need to turn a top 4 quality squad into a title challenging/winning squad. Can’t wait

  100. Un na naai

    Ok let’s take a look at Wenger last squad vs squad we have now

    Keepers

    Cech
    Ospina
    V
    Leno
    Martinez ??

    Mustafi kos holding per
    Vs
    Luiz sok chambers holding Mustafi?

    Bellerin jenks Monreal kolasinac
    Vs
    Bellerin AMN Tierney kolasinac

    Elneny, Cazorla, Wilshere, Ramsey, Xakha, coq (half season) Ozil
    Vs
    Guendouzi, Ceballos, Xakha, Torreira, willock, Ozil

    Walcott (half season) Giroud (half season) Lacazette(half season) sanchez (half season)

    Vs
    Aubameyang, Pepe, Lacazette, martinelli, Saka, nelson, ESR.

    Freddie
    The only position we were stronger was midfield. And emery/Raul let 3 of those walk for nothing

  101. Lego Hair

    Marko

    I don’t debate with morons it brings me down their level. Case in point…you.

    I’ll debate with arsenal supporters that have a clue about the game and can discuss things objectively without having a hard on for certain players than renders any conversation impossible. Case in point….you.

    Now fucking jog on.

  102. Un na naai

    Lego HairJanuary 12, 2020 16:45:03
    MarkoYou keep on with the sarcasm it’s on par with your big whoop analysis.You haven’t a clue. About anything. Go ask Alexa for response you muppet

    😂 😂

  103. Freddie Ljungberg

    “He managed to add 19 new players to the team in that time while losing 18”

    Sigh.

    How much did we get for those 18 players Don?

    Not much was it. So not much money to replace them with, I’ve already explained this multiple times.

    Are we better equipped for the future, yes, I think so. I’m optimistic for the first time in a long time that we are heading in the right direction, doesn’t mean we’re better off right now suad wise. Still need 3-4 top quality players though the spine or it’s all pointless.

    I don’t get the whole comparing points, or this or that between Wenger and Emery, we needed a complete rebuild after he left and we’re maybe half way through it, anyone that thought all we needed after that shitshow was a few tweaks and a new manager is deluded.

    Most sensible posters said from the start that it was going to take 3-4 years to get us back to the top, no one said it was going to be linear or easy or that we would definitely make it at the first attempt.

    Trying to hide from the reality of how poor our squad is and has been doesn’t progress us much and I hope Arteta and the club are smart enough to realise that.

  104. Sanmi

    Aguero is like Auba, the very reason pep is not a big fan. He is not good with hold up play, his one touch passes are hit and miss.

  105. Marko

    You don’t debate with anyone Normski you come on act the hard/stupid man eventually get binned for going overboard and saying something that you shouldn’t then scuttle off to the nearest rock to hide under thinking of the next great moniker you can come up with. Rinse and repeat I’m guessing till the day you forget how to log in to the prison computers. Debate…Pfffttt I don’t think you’ve ever engaged with anyone on a human level outside of Don and that’s because he’s on the same level as you. You know really thick and really loud

  106. Freddie Ljungberg

    Since we don’t get any shiny new signings to improve the squad I’m hoping for a shiny new mobility scooter for Xhaka, and the license to use it during games so he can keep up, doesn’t have to one of the really fast ones either.

    A new set of lungs and a backbone for Ozil would be nice too.

  107. Nelson

    It is a pleasure to watch how the city team plays. One trick both Xhaka and Ozil should learn from the city team is how they pass the ball back to the supplier. Both Xhaka and Ozil are too slow to turn under pressure. They should just pass the ball straight back where it comes from. Then move to a different position to receive the pass again. Currently, Ozil would lose the ball by a slight tackle. Xhaka would try to protect the ball with his body thereby slowing down the attack.

  108. Un na naai

    How much did we get for those 18 players Don?

    Freddie
    What’s that got to do with anything? He got a significantly improved squad with £200m spent on upgrades and stunk out the stadium with the most insipid, anti football you’ve ever seen

  109. Dream10

    Mahrez most aesthetically pleasing playing style in the PL.

    Title still within reach. Liverpool have been unreal, but still feel they will have a couple of consecutive poor results. Other than the occasional resting of Salah, their main men have been available over the past 12 months. Fantastic fitness.

  110. Un na naai

    Don and that’s because he’s on the same level as you. You know really thick and really loud

    Marko
    So stupid I put you on the big with a coffee every time you get out of your pram.
    Don’t make me do it again.

  111. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    So we let go of 19 players and replaced with 18 but it doesn’t matter how much we got for them? Straight out of the transfer book for dummies by Arsene Wenger that.

    200m to replace 19 players is peanuts btw. Do the math or ask someone mentally capable to do it for you.

  112. Champagne charlie

    Can’t agree about Aguero vs Auba.

    There’s a couple of levels between them, and Aguero does it against everyone and no matter the stakes.

    …Also, Grealish ordinary? He’s playing as a false 9 vs City who are toying with Villa. Not sure he’s had even a kick to judge as ordinary.

  113. Marko

    Freddie don’t need them mate. We’re seeing inside 4/5 games with the likes of AMN, Luiz, Torreira and Özil what Arteta is capable of. Could you imagine how the rest of them are going to react to a whole preseason under Mikel? Can see no reason why we’d need to do much with the squad it’s good enough and I can’t wait to see what he’s capable of doing as he continues with the good work he’s showing. Which is just as well because there’s going to be little available for the summer anyway so just as well we don’t need much.

  114. Un na naai

    Trying to hide from the reality of how poor our squad is and has been doesn’t progress us much and I hope Arteta and the club are smart enough to realise that.

    Freddie
    Not trying to hide anything
    Just pointing out that Wenger achieved top 4 with Giroud, podolski, Theo, ox and wilshere while emery has same players, adds £200m worth off talent and goes in the opposite direction all while being superior

    😂
    Laughable