Arsenal leadership keeping the powder dry

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Arsenal drop points. Fans get depressed. Everything is shit.

Not at Le Grove, where it’s sunshine and praise for our Dear Leader.

Just kidding, but not.

It’s amazing how quickly some fans fall back into misery and rant about their high expectations not being met.

This season was tanked by Unai Emery, 18 months in the making, the worst start in 38 years. 4 weeks ago, we were bemoaning uncoachable players, now people are angry we’re not destroying teams in every game.

Arteta was hired into a mess, that mess is not going to be solved by this current squad of players right now, but the manager is making solid inroads and we have to take the small positives that will come game to game. This is what happened with Liverpool when Klopp took over, huge highs, some miserable lows, but all levelled out because the scousers had a path that was clear.

Arsenal didn’t put on a great show against Crystal Palace, but there were positives none the less.

Defensive resilience is something we’ve been absolutely begging for, we’re already making inroads there. I’ve read numerous fans state that we folded yesterday, which is simply not the case. Our level dropped for sure, Palace came back into the game, no doubt. But we didn’t fold. In fact, we created far more in the second half than we did in the first half when we dominated (6 attempts to 1).

Also, it’s important to remember the state of their goal. A ricochet over the top of Bernd Leno. It was very lucky. That’s reflected in the xG for yesterday. Arsenal were 1.08, which is not bad for an away game against a tough team, Palace were 0.31. They came back into the game but had nothing to show for it.

If you want to go back to last season when we played them away and drew, Palace had an xG of 2.38. In the home leg, when we were still in the hunt for top 4, they beasted us and recorded an xG of 2.54.

Point here, xG is working in our favour, the goal was unlucky and the numbers point out that the bad luck was the narrative of the game. We didn’t give them much to work with yesterday, we were harder to attack, and we kept their best player quiet using a right-back that hates the position so much he forced a red card under Emery so he didn’t have to play there. We also dealt with a very average referee.

Factor in the side played a brutal game against Leeds in the week with a full stack of seniors, on top of the reality of our new far more intense training regime, and well, you get the picture, it wasn’t that bad a day in the office.

Things aren’t looking very exciting in the transfer window.

“At the moment there is nothing coming up. The club is working on a few things but you know how difficult this window is and I’m not expecting many things.”

Poor Mikel, used to double our normal transfer budget for squad filler in January, he’s now being faced down with real-world economics… if you don’t sell players, you can’t buy them.

It’s a tough scenario here because most of us would have had a few players in mind to shift on, but Mikel has other plans. My guess is the market isn’t flush with talent and he’s likely weighing the bother of bringing in names that either aren’t playing right now, or will have to spend 3 months adapting to a league that is way faster than any of the others. I also wonder if part of the ‘coach them out of mediocrity’ is a sales pitch for summer signings. I’d go to a club that could make Xhaka a functioning player in the Premier League, that’s miracles right there.

Arsenal are not really chasing anything, so working with what we have isn’t the worst idea. I’m not sure there are many instances where panic buys in January work out. I’d be quite happy to see what a fully fit squad can do from now until the end of the season, then make aggressive moves in the summer, very, very early on. A Euros year isn’t exactly ideal, but hopefully, Edu and Cagigao can formulate ideas with Mikel early so we don’t end up going on a mad one with Don Raul taking reccos from the football mafia on who might or might not be a worldy.

I forgot to talk about the players leaving on loan. We have John-Jules heading out to Lincoln City, they sit 16th in the table in League One, so a huge job for him there, and hopefully some minutes. ESR has joined Huddersfield, who dropped from the Premier League, and now sit 20th in the Championship. Quite the fall from grace, you have to say, but again, far more chance ESR will land minutes. Eddie still hasn’t found a club, but there are rumours Villa and Norwich might be interested. I’d be fine with either, as long as he actually lands playing time. No point in warming someone else’s bench.

Right, that’s my lot for today, if you want the match report, it’s here.

Have a good one, see you in the comments!

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  1. Ethangunner

    I said long ago it wasn’t Wenger , the ethos of the club right down to substitutions hasn’t even changed …. and our team had been continually sold off and bought , in a form of selling club mentality to keep this cash cow profits up …. good management,NOT good football ethos , talking managers don’t change anything , they are hired help , nothing more … follow the cash flow to your problem!

  2. Valentin

    I wonder if Nkethia will stay with us for January to play in the games that Aubameyang and Lacazette are suspended for.
    Nkethia would really help Aston Villa, but Norwich I am not so sure. He is too similar to Pukki and I can’t see Norwich playing both of them together unless shifting Eddie to the wing.

    However reading the criteria of loan, Arsenal has wised up and would rather send a player to a lower league in exchange for guarantee on his playing position. Tyreece John-Jules was sent to Lincoln a league 1 club because they agreed to play him as a striker in preference to championship clubs who wanted to play him as a 10 or even a winger.

  3. TheLegendaryDB10

    Good post Pedro.

    As much as the game was really messy, we ended up drawing in what turned out to he really tough circumstances (Torr out, Auba red etc).

    And the CP goal ended up being a bit lucky for them. Had that not gone in, we would have won the game. Yes, it’s all if’s and buts but the point is, we didn’t lose and under all that messy football there is something in there that it starting to shape up.

    It will take time for everything to click as the players get gradually used to the new system.

  4. The backpass

    From last post

    How can someone really say that we can’t get players better than xhaka for under £30 million.

    Ndidi went to leicester for less, sangare if he moves, will certainly go for less. So this notion that we cant get players is very wrong, and what is the point of scouts if we cant get bargains. We simply need to start spending wisely.

    I refuse to believe that we cant see better players than xhaka without spending much.

  5. Valentin

    Backpass,

    Stop dreaming that the Ligue 1 is an untaped and unknown market in which Arsenal will find very cheap players. Ligue 1 clubs have wised up that they quite often have gems. Decent midfielders do not leave Ligue 1 for less than £25 millions. Young ones need time to adapt to the EPL. Experienced ones are more expensive.

    Sangaré is unlikely to leave Toulouse for less than £30 millions paid upfront or £35 millions in instalments. Most of the big clubs are after him.

    Soumaré situation is different in that it looks like he has not signed an extension so Lille is willing to sell him, but after their big clash with PSG. The price will therefore reflect that next summer Bosman possibility. However getting Champion’s League football can bring Lille an extra £25 millions, so they may decide that at lower it is better to gamble on him. They stand a better change to get Champion’s League football again with him rather than without.

  6. Wasi

    Eddie Nketiah to Villa could be a smart move .
    Wesley their first choice striker has unfortunately suffered a long term injury and this can be the perfect moment of One’s loss is someone else’s gain . Eddie is clearly too good for the Under-23s and he has shown his efficiency in the Championship whenever he has played. I think we should definitely be looking to loan him to Villa where I beleive he will get the chances he needs.

    We are linked with Hakan Calhonoglu AGAIN !.
    Another creative light weight midfielder we definitely dont need right now.

  7. The backpass

    What ever said ligue 1 is an untaped and unknown market?

    And what makes you so sure that Sangare will not leave less than £30 million. Are you the Toulouse president ( even though he threatened the players none would be sold if they go down).

    Sangare’s contract expires 2021,(18 months left in his contract). Now why do you believe sangare will command more than £30 million in transfer fees. I also follow french football.

  8. Danny

    Valentin and Pedro pretty much nailing it. There is some talent around, it comes at a very January premium. Then there are various more troubled opportunities, who are not happy at their clubs and their clubs are happy to move them on. Plenty of clues there. Also £30 million in today’s market doesn’t necessarily buy you that much. Even to go and buy unfulfilled South American talent, that is not a princely sum.

    Arteta needs to a steadying and understanding role, prior to the end of the season, with a view to hatching transfer plans for the summer. With a little enterprising and making something of the potential within the younger members of the squad and even those established older players who have been mismanaged for quite some time.

    Great article Pedro!

  9. Un na naai

    From previous

    So weak, dissenter. I didn’t ‘whine about our style’, I said results over style matters most at this point.

    Jamie.

    I’d argue they are both important and by that I mean more our defensive shape before style going forward
    That’s what Arteta seems to be implementing and I’m more than happy with that. His first job was to pick the players up and the next was to improve our shape. Not only has he done that he he’s got these players working for each other as a team.
    A point at palace is better than we managed last season and while it’s disappointing not to carry on winning and to concede such a shitty goal we were still far more compact and energetic than we had been before Christmas.We are moving in the right direction. You can’t really expect more from Arteta at this stage. On another day Torreira and aubameyang stay on, that deflection lands I ti the keepers hands and we win.

  10. Pierre

    Wasi
    “Eddie Nketiah to Villa could be a smart move .”

    Not sure about that.

    Martinelli had a great start to his Arsenal career but the fact is he has only scored one goal in his last 15 appearances although many of those were coming on as sub.

    His season has taken a very similar path to Nketiah in that they both started well scoring goals , they both picked up an injury , the goals have dried up somewhat though as I said, they rarely get a full game.

    Martinelli is probably ahead of Nketiah in the pecking order and a decision needs to be made on Nketiah.

    There are 2 things that need to be assessed as to whether Nketiah goes on loan.
    Aubameyang’s suspension and Martinelli playing for Brazil.

    It would be foolhardy to let Nketiah go on loan at this present time as an injury to Lacazette would leave us short.

  11. Danny

    Rambo,

    1 win in 4.

    Naming a new manager who is probably only now reaching double figures on serious training sessions, with the full squad, when not in some kind of recovery warm down, is not an instant fix to winning every game.

    Pedro comparison to Klopp was right, there were actually some within the Liverpool support in his first 18 months who had become disgruntled.

    These things take time. Can we see improvement. Most definitely.

  12. NJ Gooner

    The common claim that Arsenal lack heart and fold didn’t happen yesterday. I feared the worse at 1-1 and a player short. But they didn’t give up any goals after that, and that’s progress, a view substantiated by Pedro’s statistics.

    My expectations may have lowered as a result of events pre-Arteta. But I think that we will all feel happier and see it as a symbolic sign of progress when we are above the Spuds in the table.

  13. Cesc Appeal

    ‘Arteta was hired into a mess, that mess is not going to be solved by this current squad of players right now’

    The slow turnaround keeps going, can’t be solved by this squad, naturally squad evolution in the summer…

    At least there’s honesty (sort of) about squad level now.

    Pretty dire display in terms of Arsenal functioning well, sort of fought fire with fire but you can’t fully blame Arteta because this midfield is absolute poverty.

    I sort of blame him for working hard to convince Xhaka to stay, but I will cut him slack until August and see what he does in the summer. If Xhaka is still being heralded as an important player in our midfield and Ozil is still floating about as well then we’ve got issues. I said when Emery gave Xhaka the armband that it was a decision that would cost him his job. It was symbolic of deeper poor decision making.

    For Pedro’s sake I hope Arteta doesn’t do the same.

  14. Edu me a favour

    Great post Pedro

    The way it descends into madness on here after we haven’t won 0-8 away from home is crazy –

    look at where we’ve come from this season , we were playing some of the worst football we’ve ever seen from an arsenal team and we were all crying for it to end – we now have a proper system , everyone knows what’s expected of them and we’ve got Ozil running and tackling ( unfortunately not yesterday , I thought he looked shattered ) and I’m the first person to slag Ozil off – we also have David luiz operating at peak levels – the goal yesterday was just downright bad luck , after he’s been looking like a £50 mill defender since arteta came in.

    We showed resilience yesterday and were unlucky not to win it with pepe’s shot and the laca follow up.

    Arteta is doing an unbelievable job so far

  15. NJ Gooner

    I think a target of 30 points in the remaining 16 games this season is a reasonably ambitious target and will take us to the low 60-point range. That may be nearly half as many as Liverpool but will position us well for a top-four spot next season.

    How many more points do you think we should regard as reasonable for the remainder of the season?

  16. Unai

    I’m with Jeff, being realistic, the changes required to get us competitive (in quality) aren’t likely to happen.

    Talking of ‘big summers’ at Arsenal? When has this ever happened?

    We’re only likely to bring in 1 possibly 2 major additions and this simply isn’t going to be enough.

    More mid table mediocrity next year I’m afraid, particularly as many of our senior players are entering the last stage of there careers.

    Not optimistic at all.

  17. Bob N16

    Completely agree with Pedro’s post. People who quote 1 win in 4 as somehow suggesting a bad start to Arteta’s reign are not worth listening to.

    Agree also that how our squad is looking at the close of the TW in August will indicate how soon we can expect to be properly competitive. Hope very much that new acquisitions will, if at all possible, get a full pre season. Saliba and Tiernay will obviously benefit too.

    Would be worried if Ozil, Xhaka and Mustafi are still with us.

  18. Jamie

    “‘Arteta was hired into a mess, that mess is not going to be solved by this current squad of players right now’”

    Not for nothing, but this sounds like a ‘player poverty’ claim.

  19. Unai

    Edu, gota be real here, 4 games, 1 win.

    Against Chelsea there was hope but I’m not seeing a huge upturn in form here, more a whimper.

    Not Arteta’s fault though.

  20. Un na naai

    RamboJanuary 12, 2020 10:13:39
    “You can’t really expect more from Arteta at this stage.”1 win in 4 PL games says otherwise.

    You’re a real fucking joy you Rambo. Like thrush.

  21. Un na naai

    JamieJanuary 12, 2020 10:20:24
    I agree, Un.Style is important (concede fewer chances against us, create more chances, quick passing, etc). We also need to win games to gain some confidence. Winning breeds winning and all that.No idea why dissenter has his nickers in a twist over me suggesting I’d take an ugly win at palace away.

    Jamie
    Me neither
    We very nearly did. We were unlucky and on another day the draw yesterday’s son the loss to Chelsea are wins

    Both highly unfortunate and both opponents very very lucky to come away with the results they did.

  22. Un na naai

    Not for nothing, but this sounds like a ‘player poverty’ claim.

    It certainly does!! Pedro, you aren’t suggesting that the squad we have isn’t capable of attaining a top four spot are you?

  23. Wenker-wanger

    Like I’ve said before, we have good players but they aren’t that extra special players required to push into the top 4.
    Arteta seems to be a better manager than emery and Wenger in terms of addressing problems and raising team spirit..
    Looking at the palace game, we seem to have players that have less endurance. Physical strength and speed to pick up ,2nd balls. Its basic power…..we get bullied a lot and overpowered.
    One bright note is the performance for the much- maligned AMN. Impressed with his combat energy against zaha. He did very well against one of the hardest wingers to defend against.
    We got a draw….the fair result….we should’ve gone hard for a second goal in the first half rather than just defend and pass the ball back as much as possible.
    But hey that hindsight.

  24. Jamie

    Un –

    Agreed. Some [rightly] say 1 win in 4 PL games for Arteta, but that’s a ‘glass half-empty’ viewpoint. Glass half-full, if we’re looking for positives post-Emery, is only 1 loss in 4 PL games under Arteta.

    Not great, but something with which to work going forward. We’re conceding fewer chances already (albeit small sample size, I know).

    Now if Arteta can work on having the squad create (and put away) more chances, we’ll climb the table, gain some confidence, and hopefully go on a decent EL Cup run.

    It’s not all doom and gloom. We’re showing early signs of improvement, the rest will take time.

  25. Wenker-wanger

    VAR is actually ruining the game…it’s a bit like turning a passionate fast moving game into a game of snooker…it’s still sport but lots of deliberation of positions and judgement calls.
    It sickens me to see offsides of 1 centimetre…handballs totally accidental and goals scrubbed off.
    Football is being sanitised to a point where passion is getting squeezed away.

  26. Rich

    Didn’t Palace have like 10 injuries yesterday?

    Didn’t Pedro say our team should 100% be getting top4?

    Hy Does Arteta get the excuse for a 5 day gap between games?

    But Emery doesn’t for playing Thurs-Sunday, and then picking up big injuries himself?

    I really like Arteta, think it’s a good appointment, and agree Arteta will probably need a few years to get his house in order.

    But Pedro has more excuses than the Labour Party.

  27. Elmo

    “Arsenal are not really chasing anything, so working with what we have isn’t the worst idea.”

    The club really are chasing something, though: Europa League qualification (with a small hope of CL).

    Last year EL distributions (prize money / TV pool / co-efficient) brought the club EUR 40m of revenue. If you also lose the 5-7 home games from the EL, and the effects of any step-downs in commercial contracts, you’re easily talking about EUR 50m+ of lost revenue (so a further drop of somewhere from 10-15% of revenue, having already lost 10% of revenue since dropping out the CL, despite the bumper new kit / sponsorship deals).

    The club really needs the money and exposure from playing in Europe. We already knew costs had to be cut (the owners have talked of the unsustainability of being “a EL team with a CL wage bill”); if we’re going to lose a further 10%+ of revenue, the cost cutting and austerity will have to be deeper, unless the owners magically dip their hands into their pockets.

    As for this January, though: yeah, there’s likely little value available, so we focus on enabling the manager to restore the group to playing at a 70 points per season level, then Raul at least will be in a position to try and sell a justification for investment / flexibility to the owners in the summer.

  28. Thorough

    There’s absolutely no reason why we’re not bringing in a cb this window, preferably a cb that can play right or vice versa.
    Chambers is out.
    Mustafi is pony.
    And Mavropanos is at the verge of going on loan to Nuremberg.

  29. Wenker-wanger

    Arsenal top 4 ? Come on get real.
    We are a mid table team…I think arteta can elevate us to 6th this season…but I’m saying that in a kind of arsenal-,,fan- hope rather than pure football judgement.

  30. Rich

    When you develop an infatuation for someone you always find a reason to believe that this is exactly the person for you.

    It doesn’t need to be a good reason. Taking photographs of the night sky, for example.

    Now, in the long run, that’s just the kind of dumb, irritating habit that would cause you to split up.

    But in the haze of infatuation, it’s just what you’ve been searching for all these years.”

  31. Un na naai

    When you develop an infatuation for someone you always find a reason to believe that this is exactly the person for you. It doesn’t need to be a good reason. Taking photographs of the night sky, for example. Now, in the long run, that’s just the kind of dumb, irritating habit that would cause you to split up.

    Rich

    That’s how babies happen.
    Being infatuated doesn’t mean that this girl isn’t right for you, it’s just a chemical reaction caused by sexual chemistry with a partner, visual stimuli and scents she is emitting.

    Your brain automatically becomes attracted subconsciously before your conscious brain even realises it.

    Conclusion-Arteta has such lovely hair

  32. Rich

    Our summer set unrealistic expectations:

    Tierney £25mill, coming back for a double hernia, which usually involves realignment of the body, no pre-season, and who had giant red warning triangles all over him, after big problems with hips dating back over two years.

    Saliba £26mill, He might be a big talent? But expecting a 19yr old to fix our defensive issues in the immediate, is fanciful, and did nothing for us this season.

    Luis £7mill, It’s what you get when you sell an experienced centre half for £4mill, and need to replace him with a similar amount, I like Luiz, he seems like a decent egg, but you know he’s hit and miss.

    Martinelli £6mill, this signing might keep Raul in a job, it was said we’d over paid for Pepe, but if Pepe’s true value is more like £45mill? Then Martinelli would easily go onto the market for the same amount.

    Pepe £72mill, Pepe won’t be the first or last player to take a season to settle, he looks like he has end product, but he’s very much an unpolished diamond, but at 24 he’s going to need a steep curve before the start of next season, Eden Hazard never repeated the numbers he got in his last season at Lille.

    Ceballos loan, we’ve seen with Kovacic, Keita, Fabinho and many others, that it takes 6-12 months to settle, signing him without and option was pretty stupid, and expecting him to replicate what a fit Rambo would do in the immediate, was unrealistic.

    Emery was set up to fail, we lost a lot of experience out the squad, and a Pedro and his ilk we’re spouting anything less than too4 is failure…..

    Nice to see he’s re-adjusted his expectations, we’re a 8th-14th place squad, with a world class finisher, a few unpolished diamonds, and some young players with large ceilings, but are a good way off, where we need them to be.

    Great to see Pedroon bird with project reality, and isn’t going to be ramping up pressure on Arteta to be sacked, like he gradually turned the screw on Emery.

  33. Champagne charlie

    Cesc Appeal with his continued rebranding of what’s said because he so desperately wants his idea of player poverty to become mainstream.

    We had the talent for top 4 at the start of the season, the reason we ain’t getting it done now with the same lot is because the path they were led down needs to be scaled back up the way before progress is made the other side.

    At some point that’ll sink in, so will not bringing in 5 players this Jan as a strategy. Will continue to read about how squad evolution is apparently some coverup for admission of a failing squad, this coming despite every club changing players per summer window. Like City last time out, who won the league. Or in your language ‘didn’t have the players for a defence so had to buy’.

  34. Champagne charlie

    “Nice to see he’s re-adjusted his expectations, we’re a 8th-14th place squad, with a world class finisher, a few unpolished diamonds, and some young players with large ceilings, but are a good way off, where we need them to be.“

    Our worst finish in 20 odd years is 6th place and suddenly we have a 8-14th placed squad? Hahaha that’s just plucking numbers out your arse at this point.

    We’ve dealt with the overriding issue of the season (Emery), we’re in recovery from that.

  35. Valentin

    Backpass,

    The Toulouse president had been shafted by Barcelona and Todibo before. He is not in the mood to let players leave on the cheap again.

    Every major clubs has had a look at Sangaré and they like what they have seen. NDombele went for £60 millions, both Soumaré and Sangaré are one level below and don’t have the France international premium, but they are worth more than a third of NDombele. An auction will take place this summer. The Toulouse club president has no incentive to sell him now on the cheap when he could help stave relegation.

  36. Un na naai

    Our worst finish in 20 odd years is 6th place and suddenly we have a 8-14th placed squad? Hahaha that’s just plucking numbers out your arse at this point.

    Cc
    Don’t come on here with your facts!!! This is le grove. Where supposed arsenal fans shut on our team and historical achievements all day every day.

    Most of them were not around to see the highs so shit on everything we achieved like some sort of jealous toddler

  37. Rich

    Champagne Charlie

    Not really…

    We lost the experience of:

    Cech and replaced him with Martinez.

    Rambo who was pretty much our only midfield goal threat, and replaced him with someone who might produce similar? Or better? But was highly unlikely to in the immediate.

    We lost Monreal, and replaced him with a guy with no pre-season, wouldn’t be back until late October, and came with a giant red triangle.

    We lost Elneny, and replaced him with Willock, Willock May have a much higher ceiling? But it left us with a 19yr old with virtually no first team experience.

    I think there’s a good chance Pepe will come good, but so far he’s offered little, and most pragmatists recognised that would likely be the case.

    We lost Mkhitaryan+ Welbeck + Iwobi, again we lost experience, we replaced with Saka+Nelson+ Martinelli,

    I think all 3 have high ceilings, but in the immediate it was likely to take us backwards, before it sent us forwards.

    We lost Koscielny again big experience.

    Ozil continues to decline, he’s completely spent, and it looks like it’s going to continue to get worse.

    We finished 1 point off last season, but I think that was a false position, and Emery actually overachieved to put us there, how many of us actually thought at the start of last season, we’d get top 4? I certainly wasn’t confident….

    We’ve made big changes, once you take Aubameyang’s goals out of this team, things look pretty frightening.

    Pepe + Ceballos settling might give us a little lift as the season progresses, but without Aubameyang’s goals? We’re pretty much dog sh*t, and we’re not much better with them.

  38. S Asoa

    AC Milan midfielder Canalaglu – looks like kite flying by his agent to boost his market. For a moment thought Xhaka would finally go. Does not do enough for his price

  39. Valentin

    Steveg87,

    I said the same thing before. Unless Edu or Cagigao can find a cheap gem a la Martinelli, otherwise Bring back Giroud on loan for 6 months. Then in the summer we can have a proper long term strategy.
    Regarding Leno, my opinion that he is an hindrance to the way Arteta wants to play has just been reinforced by Saturday’s display. His distribution is so poor and ponderous, he slows any restart to the point that the position is in place ready to press us before he even releases the ball.
    Also with his foot he can’t ping a ball to the full back near the half way line. Compare that to Martinez or to Leeds on loan second choice Meslier. Also time and time again, instead of being vocal and directing the back 4, he hesitate and change his mind adding to the confusion especially on high balls and crosses.

  40. Un na naai

    Rich

    You think emery over achieved? This man dropped Ramsey and ozil only to be forced to reinstate them
    Decided Torreira wasn’t what he wanted to pushed him upfield time be vindicated
    Dropped Lacazette or subbed him early despite him more often being our best attacking player
    Threw xakha under the bus after fucking up the captaincy
    Pulled our midfield apart and made us wide open
    Isolated our forwards
    Persisted with playing out from the back when it wasn’t working
    Tried new formations, systems, lineups on a weekly basis
    Gave the players confused and muddled instructions
    Took a team from 6th and run them down to 14th at one point

    Deceived to run the first team players into the ground in the EL rather than use them on prem games while we were third, 6 games to go and only mid table sides to play so he could use his glory
    Got roasted by an awful Chelsea side who were pissing all over their coach by then end of the season in a european final.

    This is him over achieving?

    We did everything despite him not because of him.

  41. The backpass

    Valentin

    You are missing a key point here..he has 18 months left on his contract. We might add a few pennies or installmental shit like you rightly said, but we could raise xhaka money and maybe part of that iwobi’s money into use.

    The way i see it, maybe Arteta doesn’t fancy him(sangare), because he really ticks all the boxes for what we need in midfield.

    Just checked transfermarkt value( I know, I know but…) It has a whopping £14 million as his transfer market value. So lets say x2 = £28 million which is still less than £30 million.

    Toulouse will sell for the right price, and I think £30 million would do the trick.

  42. Un na naai

    Val

    I’m with you on Leno
    He’s not vocal
    Doesn’t have the personality be truly commanding elite goal keeper:

    I’d like to see Martinez given a run
    Was saying this since last season. Great shot stopper but lacking in all other areas for me

  43. Pierre

    Rambo
    “1 win in 4 PL games says otherwise.”

    I’m sure if we had lost the cup tie to Leeds it would have been ” 2 defeats in 5 ” but as we beat them , unsurprisingly you have omitted the victory as it doesn’t suit your agenda.

  44. Batistuta

    Also, the underlying issue was always how Emery was always mismanaging the squad and that we had better players to be playing better, after all we finished just 1 point behind the top 4 places last season…Now Emery has been gone for quite a while now and Arteta has been in charge for what 4 matches now and I’m super glad that there seems to be a plan and a style of play of you will…

    Thing though is this, given that the general consensus and not just on Le grove to be fair was that we have a good enough squad and the fact that we finished just 1 point behind the champions league places last season points to that and with significant investment in the summer, how long really is Arteta meant to get to whip this lads into proper shape? Think it’s kinda contradictory to say the old manager should have been doing better cuz we had good enough resources to now claim the new gaffer should get the rest of the season as a write off or as preseason because they need to be “whipped into shape” ….

    Which is where the reality of the squad smacks you in the face, sure the old manager was daft and clueless but surely it must now be hitting close to home that the squad which was used to beat the previous manger just isn’t good enough, dance around it all you want, talk about systems and formations all you want, talk about giving the ball to your no 10 in spaces all you want, bottom line is when you watch other football teams, you realize especially our midfield and defence that as much as the last manager had his flaws, the new one even if given 2 years will struggle without gutting it and starting all over keeping just 5/6 if you will, that’s what the best managers do and no the transfer market isn’t a play station game but he’s the transfer market is meant to be used to upgrade what is quite clearly a not fit for purpose squad….

    You have a midfield with just one tackler in the she squad, a defence with just 1 maybe 2 good enough players, a non existent attacking midfield, our highest goal scorer shunted out wide because we have to accommodate a nonperforming striker, a bench that doesn’t inspire any confidence regarding anyone coming in and making a difference, you basically need things to fall in place for 5/6 of our starters for them to have a good game, that’s bad…

    In conclusion, the squad is giving as good as they can not because the manager is bad, have been quite impressed to be honest but because these guys can’t give more than they currently are because this is their level, sure there’ll be the odd game where they’d have blinders like we saw last season, but they are not built to sustain it, the talent and will just isn’t there for that

  45. Rich

    This season I think Emery lost the players, and struggled to cope with the amount of change that had been implemented.

    I’m happy Arteta got the job, but I think he’ll need at least 18-30 months to get his house in order, and wait for young players to mature.

    I think 3rd with a few games to go was a false position.

    Dropping Ozil was the right thing to do, and Emery fu*ked up caving to fans demands to bring him back, when Emery has quite rightly realised Ozil was finished at the top level.

    We had injuries to Welbeck, Bellerin and Holding, Rambo then broke down again, and Emery wasn’t backed in the January, Suarez is what you get, when you’re only allowed loan signings.

    Lichtstiner is what you get when your budget for a back up right back is £0.

    Arteta is still trying to play from the back, it worked for 20 minutes yesterday, but once Palace started pressing, it stopped working, are you suggesting we start humping 40 metre balls to Lacazette?

    Arteta will have the same problems as Emery, he might manage them differently, he might get slightly better results, but ultimately we’re really not a very good team, our squad is unbalanced from years of mismanagement, our wage bill is a joke, and will mean we’ll struggle to move players on.

    Emery leaving was the right choice, his position untenable, but you’re assuming this will just get better.

    Those below us have improved, and we’ve gone backwards, and the big changes that are needed to the squad, will mean more instability in the immediate-medium term.

    Get ready for a period of mid-table mediocrity.

  46. Cesc Appeal

    Bob N16

    Agreed.

    By the start of the season we will know a lot about Arteta. He’s stated to be ruthless etc well let’s see. Because right now his fight to keep hold of Xhaka is worrying me, he’s continued talking up of Ozil is a worry…however, this could just be pragmatism given it’s January and he can’t see a way out of the current situation so it’s best to just try to get a little more out of these players.

    But if we arrive into the new season and Xhaka is still taking up a CM spot and Ozil is still in the side…I’m going to start to seriously worry. This is the worst midfield we’ve had in recent memory, the options are absolute poverty.

    Saliba is already coming in so for me midfield is the area that needs most money spent on it. If there’s a limit budget that is where the money should go.

    At least squad poverty is in vogue now. Disputed for months now suddenly everyone is on board with the wholesale squad changes idea.

  47. HighburyLegend

    “but Mikel has other plans”
    Hum, let’s see, Pedders… give you a blow job, for all the love letters you write about him ??

    Xhaka is shite, but it’s not Lego Hair fault.
    Ozil is back on fortnite mode, but it’s not the Chosen One’s fault.

    If we lose vs the chavs or the spuds, it will NOT be you best pal’s fault.
    Granité disaster will finally stay at the club, but it probably have nothing to do with Handsome Mikel.

    I’m glad we have finally get rid of Emery, but don’t you think that a bit of objectivity would be welcomed, especially from the blog’s author ?
    But nevermind, keep up the good work in praising your idol.

  48. Champagne charlie

    Rich

    “Cech and replaced him with Martinez.“ we replaced Cech with Leno and he’s been arguably our best player this season.

    Ramsey with Ceballos: this was cited at the time as not adequate, but because Ceballos came from Real Madrid all were to surmise he was the dogs. He’s a different type to Ramsey but, and one I’m curious to see under proper management in Arteta.

    Elneny with Willock: not sure how you say this weakens us with any kind of a straight face. Elneny is a nothing player and Willock offers far, far more to the point of aiding with the offset of losing Ramsey.

    “We lost Mkhitaryan+ Welbeck + Iwobi, again we lost experience, we replaced with Saka+Nelson+ Martinelli,” : Welbeck barely kicked a ball for us, he hasn’t for Watford since either. And both Mkhi and Iwobi have been relaxed by Saka/Martinelli and Pepe. That’s a huge upgrade whatever manner you want to slice it be it profile, output etc.

    Koscielny for David Luiz: not a weakening at all, I liked Kos but at worst this is a push. Old head for old head.

    Monreal for Tierney: Monreal was awful last season, and I say that as a huge fan of his during his time here. Tierney hasn’t played enough but to claim Monreal moving on a real slight to our quality is a stretch. Even more so with Saka emerging as an option.

    All in all your comparison can be reduced to us losing quality through Ramsey, but being improved upon in all other departs if anything. I can’t take the “Emery overachieved” commentary seriously at all, I think if that’s a genuine assessment you’re wildly off-piste with your analysis. We were 3rd with 6 games to go and played teams below us to finish 5th. Overachieved we did not……not even close.

  49. Wenker-wanger

    Emery wasn’t really here long enough for us to judge him in a completely factual manner. I’m glad he has been sacked, but I don’t agree he is dogshit.
    He kind of over achieved when you consider what this squad is doing since.
    He wasn’t a communicator or motivator…the prem requires a style of management that’s akin to klopp charisma and pure man-motivation…..emery is nowhere near that.
    The real culprit is the manager that pissed millions away on french duds and lost talents like RVP, Sanchez,etc and started the demise.
    Devoid of tactics and cleverly deflected by saying “,, t hey are professionals. Let them express themselves”…….absolute fraud.
    However to compound our calamitous transfer deals, we buy Pepe….
    If ever a guy was unsuited to the prem. It’s Pepe…..
    Like putting a sheep in a lion’s den.
    A good footballer? Yes… But……….any end product??

  50. kristoman

    Thank you so much bastituta for that clerification. But whether these lots will get it i dont know. Oh well, you did try your best. Cheers man

  51. Valentin

    Backpass,

    I think that Sangaré signed an extension until 2022.
    Last summer Everton’s bid of £22 millions for Sangaré was rejected. Toulouse refused offers in the region of €28 millions so I can’t see them accepting less or the same one year later, when the caliber of suitors has improved.
    The fact that he is an African international is not necessarily a premium. Because it means lot of travels and tiredness for in most case few benefit in term of commercial exposure. Contrarily to European and France international in particular players who generate a premium due to their overall commercial appeal.

  52. Champagne charlie

    Bati

    You seem to be back on the player poverty juice you were giving it all last season before the Emery penny dropped.

    Quick recap: top 4 quality isn’t Liverpool and City levels in case there’s confusion. Top 4 quality is the ability to finish top 4, which doesn’t take a wildly impressive side if folk aren’t aware – just a good one.

  53. Champagne charlie

    Kristoman

    You’re part of the ‘we don’t have the players to beat Brighton’ sect from last season. You’re in no position to talk about “getting” anything frankly.

    Except a taxi, old school soccer AM style.

  54. The backpass

    Valentin

    Fair enough, didnt know sangare extended till 2022, following up transfermarkt that says 2021. And like you said Toulouse asked for £24.5 million ( converted ) this past summer. I just dont think they will reject £30 million if offered in the right way.

    Besides, this argument was based on the fact that we can’t get a competent midfielder with Xhaka money or £30 million like you said. This however isn’t true with Sangare as an example, besides what is the work of these scouts if they cant find someone better than xhaka.

  55. Rambo

    “Hardly awful is it Rambo you plum”

    You said “Can’t expect anything more from Arteta”. And I pointed at the league form which is 1 win in 4.

    Pretty low expectations that, coming from a fvckwit who endlessly banged on about Emery. And who endlessly bangs on about how average Auba is and how much better Lacazette is.

  56. Champagne charlie

    Kristoman

    Emery, a couple of weeks ago, had been in the job for 18 months, Arteta has been in charge 18 days.

    Oh the inability to tell an orange from an apple.

  57. Rambo

    “Am doing to arteta what they were doing to emery some couple of weeks ago. Oh the irony and hipocracy.”

    Well its Un nai naai and his clown brother Charlie. Oh and Pierre.

    Interestingly the last ones to stop sucking on Wenger’s balls. They have always had the tendency to judge a man and not the job he does.

    Wenger was God, Emery was Devil and now there’s another God.

  58. Thomas

    @Un na naai

    “. This fixture last year we were beaten by palace so it’s an improvement on emery”

    ___

    Not true. The game ended 2-2 last year.

  59. Batistuta

    Charlie

    Of course we don’t have the Liverpool/City level of players, but this is our 3rd/4th season out of the top4 with certain types still knocking about… We’ve still not fixed the defence or attempted to by penny pinching… Our midfield is probably the worst of the traditional top6, we’ve literary got no runners from midfield…We’ve finally got 2 wingers one which is still a kid and the other trying his best to settle in the league but the holes in the squad have been clear for all to see.. It’s a drum that’s been beat because it’s true, the squad is/has been poor for a while now which is why I’ve bemoaned some of our transfer activity for the past 3/4 years, it’s felt like we’ve spent for the sake of it rather than to fit the purpose of whatever manager we had in charge, hopefully it’s different for Arteta

  60. The backpass

    Another player I like is ronaldo viera from sampdoria..I think he would also count has homegrown, not sure.

    He is certainly one to watch for, the last match i watched him was against genoa or cagliari, he can play as a box to box or DM. Maybe Bastituta can say more about him.

    And he certainly wouldn’t cost £30 million. Players like this can be gotten.

  61. Valentin

    Backpass,

    Sorry if my original point came across as aggressive that was not my intention.
    I thought that like the previous posters you were arguing that replacing Xhaka for a ready made player for less than £20 millions would be easy.
    Replacing Xhaka is possible and finding better players is possible, however the big questions are at what price and will they be immediately ready.
    Replacing him with an inferior £20 millions player would be ridiculous. So would be replacing mid season by a player who would need at least 6 months to adapt.
    Tanguy NDombele who I was advocating we go after instead of Pepe is struggling. So even if we went after a quality player, he may not be able to help this team for the remaining part of the season.
    I am pretty sure that Arteta has agreed to let Xhaka leave this summer for that very same reason. He knows that he can upgrade in the summer, but he is not convinced that he can do it immediately at a reasonable price.

  62. Wasi

    Pierre
    I share your concerns but theres no point in keeping Nketiah here if he is gonna be the 4th choice player in his position in his most important years of development. If Villa can guarantee him even 10 starts Edu should be dropping Nketiah to Villa park himself.
    This season is very much a write off in terms of league finish. Although its still possible to nick 4th its very difficult . We’ll have to make the league our priority and hope that Chelsea drop off in terms of their results. Very slim chance of so many things going our way .
    Europa league will probably be our priority . I Hope.
    And even in the worst case scenario that all our 3 strikers are unavailable. We still have Pepe who can at least provide cover there. Or maybe even Balogun. Very least is expected of Arteta this season and doesnt merit stunting the development of a player just so he can provide cover while we try to pull off a miraculous run all the while hoping things which are out of control fall in our favour.

  63. Batistuta

    With certain type of players, you know what you’ll get 8 times out of 10 which is that they’re going to be inconsistent but we allow ourselves build some type of following with these lads that we don’t know when to hold up our hands and say look, he’s not going to prove us so best to part ways…You see it on twitter with Arsenal fans and certain types who’ve been here while we’ve plummeted down the table, it’s no coincidence to be honest…

    Also criticism of the squad shouldn’t be seen as criticism of the manager, he has the support of a very large number of fans including myself, just needs to not go the way of the last guy and try and fix broken stuff rather than getting new ones

  64. kristoman

    You held emery for accountability from the third week of its reign telling us though he is getting result but the football is drab. So yes i dont care how fancy we look i want results. He wasn’t hired for fancy style football but to improve on our result you told us this team is capable of having since emery is not achieving it7 set goals. Arteta will do better with the same you said.

  65. Batistuta

    Backpass

    I don’t watch a lot of Sampdoria to be fair but haven’t been impressed the few times I’ve seen him but like i sajd, haven’t watched him consistently enough to make any definite judgements

  66. Graham62

    Sky really pushing the Women’s game.

    Unfortunately, that will always be the case.

    I know it’s all based on equality and promoting the game but let’s not pretend that it will always play second fiddle to the men’s game.

    Shoot me.

  67. Rambo

    Next 5 PL fixtures

    Arse vs Sheffield
    Chelsea vs Arse
    Burnley vs Arse
    Arse vs Newcastle
    Arse vs Everton

    Un na naai, go on then bruh, what do you predict? How many wins? What would be acceptable?

  68. The backpass

    I actually think if we are giving Arteta till the season then,it is better to get players that he can work with. There is no helping Xhaka and if he continues with xhaka past this summer then, Arteta would deserve anything he gets.

  69. Valentin

    Graham62,

    Matt Macey was a top prospect for 6 months, then reality set-in. For a tall goalkeeper he is not very good under the high ball. I thought that he had been let go this summer, but it looks like he is still at Arsenal.
    Martinez is clearly the No2, so at his age Macey may be better off going to a club where he has a chance to play. Other he may have a career a la Stuart Taylor who stay at big clubs because of his HG status without actually ever play. 3 full years at Manchester City between 2009 and 2012 without a single appearance to show for it.

  70. Champagne charlie

    Rambo
    Second time you’ve claimed it about the man vs the job, despite Emery being criticised quite literally because of the failure to outline what job he was implementing – and Arteta praised for just that.

    Go have a lie down.

    Bati
    Again, if you’re going to dismiss the significance of the head coach quite so much then it’s a totally fruitless argument.You’re clamouring for a type of player we’ve had at the club and who Emery oversaw their sale without coming to any conclusion he ought to replace them.

    The proverbial drum is being beat because it originated as a get out clause for Emery post-Wenger as the usual sorts looked to claim us plunged into despair following his sacking. It’s been carried on to preserve that ridiculous hysteria as they got their lashes into Wenger for the last time.

    Make no mistake about that.

  71. The backpass

    Bastituta

    Same here, just watch them occasionally, prefer watching Atalanta…fantastic side to watch, not just because of yesterday’s match. I think they have been playing the best football in seria A for 2 years now.

  72. Valentin

    Rambo,

    7 PTS would be the minimum.
    Realistically 3 victories and a draw would be my top expectation.
    At this stage anything above 10 PTS would be a bonus.

  73. Rich

    Mike Tyson famously said:

    “Every fighter has a plan until they get punched in the mouth”

    Arteta can try to install a philosophy, but if the tools at his disposal aren’t good enough to perform the jobs he needs?

    Then ultimately he’ll revert to pragmatism and self preservation.

    Our defenders aren’t good enough to play out of the back, our midfield lacks dynamism, Ozil is a spent force, who is like a squatter refusing to be evicted.

    We’re haemorrhaging money, our one saving grace is 30, has 18 months on his deal, and will probably leave in the summer.

    I like Arteta, but for those who think Emery was the reason we’re in this mess? You’re dreaming….

    This mess was years in the making thanks to Gazidis, Wenger and poor ownership who presided over this sh*t show.

    This is going to take years of much better scouting, recruitment, contract renewals, knowing when to allow a player to leave, and all round better decision making to fix.

    Pedro saying we we’re a top 4 team, was way off the mark, we’ve gone backwards, others have gone forwards.

  74. Champagne charlie

    Kristoman

    I held Emery accountable for not changing the failings of the side that had been seen for numerous years, for not having a discernible style etc. The results were secondary then but championed above all else and quite evidently to our detriment longer term.

    Same applies to Arteta so forgive me for not harping on about results in the immediate and being more concerned with the failings of the sides being addressed and the inevitable important that will bring in results. Of course you expect all of that to change like a light switch, so little need to exhaust the point.

  75. The backpass

    “Also criticism of the squad shouldn’t be seen as criticism of the manager, he has the support of a very large number of fans including myself, just needs to not go the way of the last guy and try and fix broken stuff rather than getting new ones”

    So very true, i just hope this Xhaka stuff ends in the summer.

  76. Un na naai

    Somebody give Rambo a pack of crayons. Needs to channel his nervous energy into something productive.

    You got a hard on for me dont you Ramsey?
    Think this fella needs to get a girlfriend
    He’s lonely

  77. Un na naai

    If player poverty excuses emery then why did wenger, with a worse squad manage to get top 4 with giroud, flamini, podolski and Walcott and why were the same excuses not made for him?

    Why did we not clamour for a TD and DOF and keep him as coach?
    Please let’s not forget that Emery’s first 50 games in charge produced a worse record than wenger’s last and worst 50game period.

    This man who you berated so much still outperformed this over achieving coach.

    So why lose someone who outperforms the over achiever?

  78. Paulinho

    Rich – Yep. There are probably quite a few experienced managers rolling their eyes at Arteta’s idealism of what he wants and is demanding. They know over time the mental scar tissue will set in, the bar will get lowered(already is) when what Arteta wants and what he gets get become increasingly misaligned when certain players are simply not capable of producing what we need.

  79. Batistuta

    Back pass

    Yea, Atlanta have been playing some amazing football the last 2 years, probably before that even when they played in the Europa league, a true definition of an attacking team, look on course for 2 consecutive years in the UCL too at the rate they’re going… Josip Illicic has been brilliant but so has Papu Gomez and Zapata last season, Muriel is a bit shit these days and Gosens in midfield is quite brilliant

  80. Un na naai

    “Also criticism of the squad shouldn’t be seen as criticism of the manager, he has the support of a very large number of fans including myself, just needs to not go the way of the last guy and try and fix broken stuff rather than getting new ones”

    The issue isn’t criticism of the squad. I’m critical of certain members too but to claim it is not capable of finishing in the top 4 is not true and I’ll challenge anyone who says different

  81. Freddie Ljungberg

    “If player poverty excuses emery then why did wenger, with a worse squad manage to get top 4 with giroud, flamini, podolski and Walcott and why were the same excuses not made for him?”

    Is this a serious question Don?

    Maybe because Wenger was 100% responsible for assembling that squad, putting them on wages way above their skill level so we can’t get rid of them for any decent transfer fees.

    He was solely responsible for all the footballing decisions for the club for 23 years and was appalling at transfers both in and out in the later half of his tenure.

    Not only did we have to decrease the ridiculously high wage bill we also had to take the average age profile of the squad down a couple of notches because Wenger didn’t replace aging players in time he just gave them fatter contracts and then let them run them down.

    All issues that we have had to deal with in the last 18 months and are still dealing with now.

    Blabla 200m spent blabla. Yeah, that was never close to enough to untangle that mess.

    at least 20 of the 24 players in that squad needed replacing, that’s 10m per player, not exactly a recipe for success. That’s why we have so many unproven kids getting so much playing time. We might benefit from it in the long term but it’s not doing us any favours right now.

  82. Pierre

    Rich
    “Get ready for a period of mid-table mediocrity”

    I take it that you was an admirer of Wenger, do you think the club would be in better shape with Wengerstill as boss as your prediction is slightly negative.

  83. Spanishdave

    We desperately need a creative goal scoring midfielders, currently none of our minds contribute to our scoring, that’s why we are struggling to win.
    Grealish would fit the bill, Cellabos is not going to do it for us.

  84. Un na naai

    Maybe because Wenger was 100% responsible for assembling that squad, putting them on wages way above their skill level so we can’t get rid of them for any decent transfer fees.

    Freddie
    So should we bin Raul for assembling a squad so bad that emery was over achieving with it by losing to Sheffield, wolves, palace, Leicester et all?

    And if Wenger was so bad at making signings, Emery was worse, then why not just leave him in his post and surround him with guys who can do what David Dein did for him?

    I mean say what you want but Wenger still had us in the top 6 with players you label as dross so either Raul and emery signed worse players than Wenger or Wenger is the better coach and tactician.

    Which is it?

  85. Un na naai

    He was solely responsible for all the footballing decisions for the club for 23 years and was appalling at transfers both in and out in the later half of his tenure.

    Freddie
    And yet he still out performed emery
    Hahaha

  86. Nelson

    Watching Watford’s midfield, they are a collection of bullies. I can imagine that they’ll bully our midfield out of the park.

  87. Un na naai

    at least 20 of the 24 players in that squad needed replacing, that’s 10m per player, not exactly a recipe for success. That’s why we have so many unproven kids getting so much playing time. We might benefit from it in the long term but it’s not doing us any favours right now.

    Freddie

    And yet wenger still outperformed emery with those 24 players
    Hahaha
    What a legend
    Keep digging you tool we can still see you!!

  88. Champagne charlie

    “I mean say what you want but Wenger still had us in the top 6 with players you label as dross so either Raul and emery signed worse players than Wenger or Wenger is the better coach and tactician.Which is it?“

    Squirm, squirm, squirm…

  89. Un na naai

    PierreJanuary 12, 2020 14:10:50
    Rich
    “Get ready for a period of mid-table mediocrity”I take it that you was an admirer of Wenger, do you think the club would be in better shape with Wengerstill as boss as your prediction is slightly negative.

    Pierre
    Somehow I don’t expect the answer to that question to be yes

  90. Pierre

    Fred
    “Blabla 200m spent blabla. Yeah, that was never close to enough to untangle that mess.”

    How about if the money was spent on areas of the team that needed addressing, maybe that would untangle the so called mess.

  91. Un na naai

    “Blabla 200m spent blabla. Yeah, that was never close to enough to untangle that mess.”

    Pierre

    What did Leicester spend time take them from 10th to second? This should put him to bed for the rest of the day

  92. The backpass

    Batistuta

    “Atlanta have been playing some amazing football the last 2 years, probably before that even when they played in the Europa league, a true definition of an attacking team, look on course for 2 consecutive years in the UCL too at the rate they’re going…”

    Definitely, i actually dont see Roma edging them out.
    Top 4 in italy is 80% settled, roma have to get something against Juve today.

    Lazio has just being outstanding so far, they are actually in the title race alongside Inter, would be very difficult to dispose Juve at the latter stages though. Lovely from the Italian teams this season.

    Seen some Inter fans say Conte struggles against teams that are very technical and that he drains the players and signs are starting to show.

  93. Un na naai

    UnaiJanuary 12, 2020 14:26:32
    Next season we will be 4 seasons out of CL bar a EL mirical. How it can be considered a top 4 squad us beyond me.

    Unai

    Maybe we should have kept all that dross we sold off keeping us in the top 4 after all

    Theo, Giroud, Ox, Gabriel

    All is forgiven. Come back. We spent £300m on worse
    We are sorry

  94. Freddie Ljungberg

    Don

    You really are an idiot.

    The league was less competitive the last time Wenger managed to get top 4, there’s far more money in quality in the mid and lower table teams now so we can’t just bully our way to the CL places anymore.

    What about having to replace AGING players on inflated contracts with little to no money is it you don’t understand?

    I think we’ve done well in the last 2 summer windows, some mistakes but overall much better than what we’ve seen for a long time. We still had to do it with a low budget compared to all the positions we had to fill.

    We lowered the wage bill by 45m last summer because your lord Wenger fucked up our cash reserves by wasting it on overpaying mediocrity.

    Also why are you making this about Emery? Who cares about him, he didn’t perform and he’s gone, no one cares except you and your AKB pals. There was no cult of Emery.

    Was always going to be a 3-4 year job to fix the mess Wenger left behind regardless of manager though. Feel free to go back 18 months and check my comments back then if you want, they’ll say the same.

    That we have fans that resist change and are actually advocating us holding on to many of our crap players is just retarded. Not surprising that it’s the same posters that still haven’t let go of Wenger that does it though.

  95. Rich

    Pierre
    On a human level I’m a huge AW fan, but he should have gone after the FA cup win in 2014, some people argue before, but that was the point I felt it was time.

    I don’t think my prediction is negative, I just think our problems go way beyond coaching issues.

    Paulinho
    I agree, Wenger was castigated for sending his troops into battle gung-ho, in battles he was equipped to win.

    Emery’s pragmatism was first lauded, but then ripped to shreds by our fan base.

    Arteta taking us back to an ideologue philosophy, but that is unlikely to work, as we have quality, and squad balance issues.

    And self preservation and pragmatism will either kick in? Or Arteta will go down with his ship?

    Either way,…. whilst I’m happy to give Arteta a 18 months free hit, you can guarantee the majority of natives won’t be considering 2 wins in 5, and playing well in 20-30 minute patches to be successful, for very long.

    Soon they’ll be screaming for his head, apart from Pedro, who I think is more interested in another part of Arteta’s anatomy 😂

  96. Freddie Ljungberg

    Pierre

    “How about if the money was spent on areas of the team that needed addressing, maybe that would untangle the so called mess.”

    Great plan. Unless all areas of the squad bar striker needed addressing at the same time. Hence a 3-4 years rebuild.

  97. Henry Root

    Rambo
    ‘1 win in 4 PL games says otherwise.’

    I guess you’re a glass half-full sort of guy.
    We were coming off a long winless run, have had two awkward away games which we drew , beat United comfortably , lost very unluckily to Chelsea and also beat in Leeds a decent quality side . Bearing in mind Arteta took over from an appalling coach I think he has done very reasonably . The team looks like i5 has been properly coached for the first time in years

  98. Pierre

    After watching Palace( and the ref) turn yesterday’s game into a kicking match, I am now sitting here trying to watch another physical battle between Bournemouth and Watford.

    At least we have Liverpool and city who believe the way to win football matches is by using skill and technique.

    Thank God Emery has gone as skill and technique were the bottom of his list.

    Arteta will want to play football the Arsenal way , it may take time after the Emery debacle but at least he will try.

  99. alex cutter

    “I know it’s all based on equality and promoting the game but let’s not pretend that it will always play second fiddle to the men’s game.

    Shoot me.”

    Fortunately, old age will sort out most of your ilk before too long, so I’d imagine very few worry much about what creepy old men like you think.

  100. izzo

    As much as I want to enjoy Arsenal again I just can’t with the likes of Xhaka and Ozil still stinking out the place. Arteta is just going to end up getting sacked if he continues championing this lot at the expense of buying in better players. We need to move forward and these are the types that will prevent us from doing that. The season is toast so I don’t care but I will begin judging Arteta from the summer if he keeps these leeches at the club. No person in their right mind would want to keep Xhaka or classify him as important. That’s clown territory.

  101. Rambo

    Un na naai,

    Looks more like you need a boyfriend, seeing that you are an absolute pussy. You can’t even lay out your expectations from the next five games.

    Can’t have your God failing you.

  102. Batistuta

    Backpass

    I’m all for Lazio winning the league, been sacred they’ll drop off but thankfully that hasn’t been the case…. Conte has tried to get players who normally wouldn’t run a lot to run even more so yea that was always going to tell but they’ve now got Sanchez and Godin back from injury… Roma are inconsistent and that’s why i don’t see top4 for them but who knows, looking like it’s a 3 horse race which is actually brilliant for us over here, better than whatever is being served up in England this season that’s for sure

  103. Jamie

    We are paying the direct consequence of not firing Arsene Wenger 8 years ago when it was clear we were on the slide. We let everything fail, from top to bottom. We let good people rot, we passed on innovation, we didn’t bring in great players and we failed to maintain a grip on an elite mentality.

  104. DigitalBob

    Un – I like Stones, agreed he’s over priced but technically a sound footballer. Unfortunately he’s another one that can’t stay fit and will probably never have an injury free season for however long his career lasts.

  105. DaveTheRave

    Well said Pedro, anyone expecting a smooth end to the season are being unrealistic. Guardiola and Klopp both had bumps in the road before building the team’s they wanted. I have faith that we are heading in the right direction under Arteta. We already seem a lot more solid which is a big change considering how crap we have been defensively. The fans need to back Arteta as his job is gonna be difficult enough and I hope my fellow gunners will.

  106. Un na naai

    Fortunately, old age will sort out most of your ilk before too long, so I’d imagine very few worry much about what creepy old men like you think.

    Cutter
    Ha! No wonder your body is producing mutated cells with poison like that inside your body. You’d think with you being so close you’d have left behind your pathetic spite.

    You really are a waste of a human being

  107. Nelson

    “Arteta taking us back to an ideologue philosophy, but that is unlikely to work, as we have quality, and squad balance issues.”

    That is a step in the right direction, n’est par? Any reasonable fan will know that the squad requires upgrade. In 18 months, most of our high priced players will be replaced. Arteta was given a 3 1/2 years contract. I think Josh has decided to stay with Arteta and will ignore those noisy fans.

  108. Rambo

    Un na naai is that sort of a saddo that wrote ‘Pleeeeeasssseeeee’ (Yep, spelled like that) to beg Pedro to let him back on a fvcking football blog.

    Pedro deleted that but not before some of us saw it.

  109. Un na naai

    Un na naai,Looks more like you need a boyfriend, seeing that you are an absolute pussy. You can’t even lay out your expectations from the next five games.Can’t have your God failing you.

    Haha
    So pussies have boyfriends? Is this across the board? Are all women pussies? All gays? Are there some pussies who swing both ways?
    Take it you’re not a sociology professor.