Scouting Report: Centre midfielders assessed

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My word, another scouting report from Mike McDonald. I’m flying today, so likely not back online until tomorrow. Have a good one!

A new midfielder for Arsenal

This next transfer blog is about locating a Central Midfielder, not necessarily finding another Granit Xhaka.
Honestly, I think that would give Xhaka too much credit as his career would’ve been better served going to Serie A when he left BM.

You also need to know that this is not about finding a modern day, athletic DM as that blog is here…
Scouting Report: Where we are, where we should buy

It includes Partey, N’didi, Soumare, Danilo, William Carvalho, Witzel, Javi Martinez, Szoboszlai, Busquets, Sangare, Zakaria and Bruno Fernandez.

Modern day football has a midfield three in many forms. Either in a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1/3-5-2 or 3-4-3 with an Attacking Mid/False Nine.

Modern day midfields are made up of …..
a) A destroyer
b) A play maker
c) A line breaker (with and/or without the ball)

Arsenal actually have all three already. Torreira is a destroyer. Ceballos, Guendouzi and Xhaka are all different types of play makers. Willock and Maitlind-Niles are line breakers. Smith Rowe could be a play maker or line breaker.

A few teams are still using an Attacking Midfielder. Often they move from wide areas as Ceballos does for Spain, Nelson could do, Ozil is currently doing, ESR and Willock have been tried and Pepe could actually find himself as.

In my opinion, as a coach myself, it is hard to say how good these options are as Mikel Arteta’s biggest asset is his coaching skills. In his first game alone Torreira, Ozil and Xhaka had their best games of the season so perhaps the answer is local?

What Arsenal might then do is buy based on profile rather than replacing.

The profile we lack is height, mobility, athleticism, speed, penetration and positional sense.

Again, I say that Arteta could change some of this eg; Willock playing as a ‘line breaking #8.’
Ceballos has the ability to be a ‘play making #6.’ I’ve even wondered if Guendouzi could be an ‘energetic pressing #10?’

Most likely

Name: Adrien Rabiot
Position: CM
Age: 24
Height: 6ft 2
Club: Juventus
Nationality: France
Potential fee: Loan or 35M

https://youtu.be/p7ot593dhn8

About: I’m going to keep this profile simple. If the goal is to find a better version of Granit Xhaka as a player, Adrien Rabiot is that.
Has better dribbling ability, mobility, defensive ability, agility, speed and and an ego to play at the highest level. His mother, who is also his agent, has been a hindrance to him as she has placed unrealistic demands on his career. Hence why after half a season at Juve, he is wanting to move on.
If we can get Rabiot for a five month loan, I cannot see this being an initial problem.

Others in same category: Dominik Szoboszlai (RB Salzburg), Thomas Lemar (A.Madrid), Emre Can (Juventus), Kessie (AC Milan)

Generational talent

Not all in this category are CM’s. Again, there is an argument that AFC already have a play maker/regista or two. Some of these could be AM’s or ‘line breaking 8’s’ in a 3 man midfield

Name: Eduardo Camavinga
Position: CM
Age: 17
Height: 6ft
Club: Rennes
Nationality: France
Potential fee: 50M

About: One day you might remember that you read about Camavinga. One day very soon. You remembered his name as you thought he was a Bond villain but now you feel silly because he’s now the most talented midfielder in Europe.
Unless he falls off the track, Eduardo Camavinga is destined for superstardom.
A regular for Rennes at 16 and dominating at 17, Camavinga has everything. Statistically he is the best ball winner AND passer in French football. Is best as a line breaking 8, but plays as a deep lying playmaker with the dribbling ability of a winger. Got spider legs that seem to time tackles like only Kante can, yet the passing range of DeBruyne.
Part of me thinks he should go to a club like Lyon, then to an Arsenal before he has his pick of the elite. The other part of me thinks PSG will snap him up and he will struggle to play and regret the move. Then I watch him again and remind myself that once in a generation there is a player that can play for and start for an elite club as the play maker at the age of 17/18.
The biggest compliment I can pay him is to write a list of every quality that you’d want a midfielder to have. I’d say Camavinga at the age of 17, already ranks as an 8/10 or higher in every area.
If you haven’t yet seen Eduardo Camavinga bless your day and click above.

Name: Martin Ødegaard
Position: AM
Age: 21
Height: 5ft 9
Club: Real Madrid (on loan at Sociedad)
Nationality: Norway
Potential fee: 80M

https://youtu.be/Pc6frggNXF8

About: When Mesut Ozil was at Real Madrid he was at his peak. Raking up titles, both team and individual. The king of the assist that Arsenal have rarely seen on a consistent basis.
Martin Ødegaard has this ability but has arguably started excelling more consistently at a younger age. You may remember him touring Europe‘s biggest clubs picking where he wanted to go. Many feel that he has been the best player so far in La Liga and he’s at Real Sociedad. Much like Valverde (below), there is no common sense reason for Real to sell as he is their future. It’s Real though and so you never know. Ordinarily plays as a 10, but perfectly able to play as an 8, penetrating on the dribble or floating between the lines. What I wish Dani Ceballos was, who has this level of talent but prefers to simply maintain possession in his eternal rondo. Heerenveen to Vitesse to Sociedad to Arsenal then on to Real Madrid, perhaps?

Others in this category….. Dominik Szoboszlai (RB Salzburg), Boubacar Kamara (CB who has played FB and DM… Marseille), Dani Olmo (Dinamo Zagreb), Phil Foden (City), Kai Havertz, Dejan Kulusevski (Parma), Ryan Gravenberch (Ajax), Bruno Guimaraes (Athletico Paranese)

Established talents

Name: Fabian Ruiz
Position: CM
Age: 23
Height: 6ft 2
Club: Napoli
Nationality: Spain
Potential fee: 55M

https://youtu.be/wdDpxo8Jx9A

About: Much like Rabiot, see Xhaka, think upgrade. Faster feet than both and more likely to use all surfaces of his golden left foot. Fabian also excels in his ‘second touch,’ the one that accelerates you away.
His fine form has seen him as a staple in the Spanish national team. An achievement that Granit Xhaka would never touch (if he were Spanish), due to his lack of mobility.
Real Madrid have been sniffing around but Fabian must be careful if he were to move as he has established himself. Could return to being an after thought at RM.

Name: Houssem Aouar
Position: CM
Age: 21
Height: 5ft 9
Club: Lyon
Nationality: France
Potential fee: 50M

About: Smooth. Graceful. Makes the hectic look simplistic. Small of frame and light on his feet, Aouar is a natural footballer. Much like Weigel at Dortmund, he makes me a little insecure as he looks too lightweight but he seems to glide effortlessly away from physical pressure.
You may remember Mikel Arteta teaching the players the concept of ‘ball, opponent, space and teammate’ at the first session. Aouar plays this way.
I was trying to think of a comparison to a player we’d all know and then I watched the video again and saw Arteta himself in his Everton days. Interesting.

Others in this category ….. Doucoure (Watford), Pellegrini (Roma), Van De Beek (Ajax), Zielinski (Napoli), Koke (AM), Ruben Neves (Wolves), Isco (RM), Sami Khedira (Juventus), Merino ( Real Sociedad), Nandez (Cagliari), DePaul (Udinese), Sanson (Marseille), Cyprien (Nice), Pulgar (Fiorentina), Bentancur (Juventus), Weigel (Dortmund), Saul Niguez(AM)

Possible for different reasons

Name: Federico Valverde
Position: CM
Age: 21
Height: 5ft 10
Club: Real Madrid
Nationality: Uruguay
Potential fee: £50M

About: As hot as fire in the Spanish capital right now. Valverde has broken into a super competitive midfield with his all-action style.
Valverde is a supremely athletic box to box #8 who has recently been called a ‘jack of all trades and a master of ALL.’
So, why would they sell a youngster that has broken into the first team when they normally ship out youngsters on loan?
Aubameyang.

It’s not likely as I’m sure they’d offer players they don’t want, but if Arsenal have the upper hand in negotiations, never discount a Real Madrid president from doing something that the coach and fans oppose, just to get a star player he wants.

Name: Santi Cazorla
Position: CM
Age: 35
Height: 5ft 6
Club: Villarreal
Nationality: Spain
Potential fee: loan or £10M

About: I wasn’t going to profile Santi but I went on YouTube and I couldn’t resist!
I think that this is a very real possibility for a variety of reasons.
The long term fix is likely to not have PL experience. Cazorla would give us this. If you are concerned about his age and form then recognize that he was not in Spanish squad whilst in his latter years at Arsenal. At the age of 35, he is now.
Five goals and four assists in 15 LaLiga games. A goal against both Barca and Real too. On fire!
Is it coincidence that he has mentioned many times that he didn’t say goodbye? Just saying.

Others in this category….. Allan (Napoli), Alcantara (Bayern), Lallana (Liverpool), Vidal and Arthur (Barca), N’domble and LoCelso (Spurs), Paredes (PSG)

Upcoming midfielders

Name: Kalvin Phillips
Position: DM/CM
Age: 24
Height: 5ft10
Club: Leeds
Nationality: England
Potential fee: 35M

About: Wow! How is he not playing in the PL? How??
I understand that he’s not played at higher levels but to my eyes he is quite easily England’s most talented defensive midfielder. That’s England’s weak point. How is he not in the squad? Watched the video yet?
Kalvin Phillips should become a top player at a top team. Hard as whatever is harder than hard. Fantastic feet too. Converted from a CM to DM but so talented , he could play either. Not entirely sure what PL refs and those lovely VAR folk will make of his force of tackling but they say Arsenal are too soft so..?
The modern day argument is, do you want a deep lying play maker or a ball winner. Kalvin Phillips says, ‘do you want both?’

Others in this category…..

Sander Berge (Genk), Mwepu (RB Salzburg), Aribo (Rangers)

Potential Attacking Mids in a 4-3-3

Ziyech (Ajax), Maddison (Leicester), Fekir (Betis), Mooy (Brighton), Grealish (Villa), James Rodriguez (Real), Yazici (Lille)

My choice

Initially after researching, I had a list of 48 options. Amongst a list of supremely talented midfielders, there was one stand out choice for the circumstances Arsenal are in.

I’d choose Santi Cazorla.

Arsenal have a young group of midfielders made even younger if Xhaka leaves.
A PL experienced player on a short term deal, who clearly wants to play for Arsenal again AND here’s the big one…. we’ve had an awful season so far. You want to lift the fanbase?
Can you imagine the happiness?!?

I’d also attempt to buy N’didi to initially partner Cazorla and Szoboszlai and send him on loan to a PL team to understand the physicality. I’d also buy back Bielik as a very useful squad player.

What will Arsenal do?

I think we will sign Rabiot on loan and buy Szoboszlai. I think we will sign Fernandinho and Thiago Alcantara in the summer.

You?

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Habesha Gooner

If we get better at selling our fringe players for good fees our resurgence would be much quicker. Liverpool sold benteke for 32 mil, solanke for 18 mil, Ings (though he is looking like a steal now) 18 mil along with coutinho to fund their league title.

Dissenter

Marko
Raul stated in that joint interview with Edu, that Edu was the one that led the search.
Ultimately, it would have been decided by committee led by Josh Kroenke.

Marc

Cesc

If we can get Mustafi out on loan it’d be a great idea – of course we can only do that if we bring in another CB this window.

If we shift on some deadwood and bring in a good signing or two I wonder what certain people on here will find to slag of Sanllehi off for this time?

Chris

I’d have no issues seeing a mixture of youths and players who haven’t featured heavily under Arteta yet, to see how they take to the new system. This game would be the ideal opportunity to do that.

Leeds have bigger fish to fry themselves in the Championship and while they will be up for it, they may well play a weakened side themselves.

Marc

Pedro has a point about Leeds – their absolute priority will be promotion so you’d assume that they’d look to rotate as well.

We’ll find out in a couple of days.

Champagne charlie

Can it finally dawn on some people that we don’t have £2.50 players in the squad?

….and actually whether you personally dislike a player or not does fuck all to their transfer value or perception to other clubs/leagues?

Just a thought, bored rigid of this constant pissing on our players like they’re League one standard. Some can be both unsuitable to us, and retain value. Wake up, smell the dark roast, it’s about time.

Dissenter

Pedro
Are you sitting in a nice cushy first class cabin sit, enjoying complimentary wifi?
I always avoided airline wifi because it was expensive and very slow. I guess it’s improved.

Marc

Pedro

Fuck me £100 odd million riding on one player staying fit for half a season.

Pierre

Pedro
I can’t see him picking anymore than 4 from Nelson, Willock, , Saka, Martinelli, Nketiah and Guendouzi …Burton maybe in with a shout.

Champagne charlie

“Edu led the Arteta hire. It is on him if it fails or succeeds.“

Why is this contentious? Edu and Raul sat and said as much in an interview on Arsenal.com

Cesc Appeal

‘If we shift on some deadwood and bring in a good signing or two I wonder what certain people on here will find to slag of Sanllehi off for this time?’

Marc, you’re not keeping up.

Anything good is Edu. Anything bad is Sanllehi.

I honestly don’t want to have to tell you again.

Marko

You do this over and over and you are always wrong. Always getting banned too. What’s specifically am j wrong about? Not dismissing Raul having a say in the decision to hire Arteta? Him being Head of football operations one would assume that he had a say. That Emery was a Raul hire? Again I’m just stating stuff that has been written in the past that Ivan got cold feet and went safe with Emery. Pedro the attitude that you’re infallible because you have “contacts” and can’t be questioned is ridiculous in this day and age and on the internet.… Read more »

Marc

Pedro

“CC, #SquadPoverty is so 2019.”

Let’s just hope no one’s saying “Arteta’s sauce is so 2020” in a years time!

Habesha Gooner

CC no ody argued they don’t have value if they played like their better selves. But the Miki, Elneny, and still mustafi played/play for arsenal weren’t of enough value in the transfer market.

robel yonas from addis

More english lads at Arsenal, when I started watching Arsenal tony Adams and dixion, ray paulor, were as important as the foreigner stars like vieria, once Thierry henry said Adams apwas vocal in the dressing room telling henry what it means to play for Arsenal…..the current problem we had with many of the players playing below par is because they are their for the huge money Arsenal offer, the english lad be raised in The english premier league culture the know what it means to the fans. Jack wilshere, Ramsey, ox chamberlin this are players we should try to bring… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Pedro

Agreed.

2019 was #squadpoverty
2020 about to be #coachingactuallyworks

Marc

Cesc

Actually Cesc you’re wrong – anything bad is both Sanllehi and Edu anything good is still down to Sven.

We’re about 6 months off Sven not getting credit for good signings! It’ll then be all down to Arteta.

Chris

For entertainments sake hopefully this Leeds tie is more akin to the 1992-93 games rather than the drab defeat we suffered in 1997.

Also remembering the Henry game in 2012 and didn’t we have a last minute escape against them in 2011 I think? We seem to get them a lot in the cup!

And my dad always used to say don’t mention the 72 final

Vladdy P

Would like to see how Burton does.

Did well in pre season and we have no back up for toreira.

Cesc Appeal

Marc

I didn’t even know Mislintat was still a thing?

I just thought he was a bloke who was here for a while, bought some ex players of his, threw a strop, got sacked, ended up at a Division 2 side.

I didn’t know he’s still getting credit for things…must be the hair.

Marc

Cc

“Pedro

Agreed.

2019 was #squadpoverty
2020 about to be #coachingactuallyworks”

And there was me hoping 2020 was going to be about beer and women.

Marc

Cesc

He has a sauce that you don’t appreciate until years after the event.

Marko

Why is this contentious? Edu and Raul sat and said as much in an interview on Arsenal.com It’s not contentious at all. What is contentious is Pedro’s initial statement “nothing delights me more than Raul having very little to do with this move.”. The head of football whatever having little to do with the hiring of the manager despite being involved in the interviewing process both times around? Doesn’t seem likely does it. It just another case of Raul being incapable of doing anything right. They even get the manager they wanted and it’s because of Edu and despite Raul.… Read more »

Marc

Pedro

Banter mate – I’d like nothing more than to tell you to fuck off you’re boring me repeating how you knew Arteta was going to do the Quadruple (CL, PL, FA Cup and League Cup) in his first full season!

Pierre

Pedro
Forgot about ESR, could come in for Ozil..

I suppose when you look at it , a lot of the kids are quite experienced now and it’s not like throwing them in the deep end.

Habesha Gooner

Pedro why don’t you like Raul? is there something we aren’t seeing behind the scenes? Gut feeling mustn’t be an answer.

Marko

Marko, again, you don’t know the half about Raul

Do tell mate.

Oh by the way did you get that info on the Mhikitaryan bid from a “contact” or was it arseblog citing a source in Italy? Or was it a Twitter source? Cause if it was one of those and not a direct “contact” at the club then same

Ernest Reed

Why reject any offer for Mikki? He’s a busted flush and to rid yourself of his ridiculous wages, take what you can get and be thankful you can hit the reset button with that money.

As for why Pedro is not fond of Raul? Likely the same reason as me, he’s a shifty eyed bloated weasel who know jack shit about talent and keeps his hand behind his back, concealing that knife he’d put into anyone’s back.

Habesha Gooner

Ernest, that made everything clear, thanks.

Lego Hair

Marko

‘ Marko, your googling isn’t better than my information. You do this over and over and you are always wrong.’

OUCH.

Try get off that string he’s got you on kid.

Ernest Reed

“The backpass, this blog thrives on free-flowing opinion on football. Bamford makes it about himself. He’s condescending, he’s rude and he can’t move on from being hideously wrong about Unai Emery. I can’t have the same argument dragging on into month 3, pissing every single commenter off.He’s been warned. He ignored it again. He is in the sin-bin, again.” Id say in roughly two hours time Bamford DM Bapple will be on the TwitterVerse slamming Pedro again for the horrible treatment. You got to feel for the Arseblog folks, the return of the Slapnuts Bapple is upon them, and they… Read more »

Ernest Reed

Habesha, call it a gut feeling. I just dont like Raul, there is something sleazy about him

Habesha Gooner

Hahaha Ernest that was Sarcastic by the way.

Ernest Reed

I know Habesha. 🙂

Habesha Gooner

hahaha But I really wanted to know why pedro has this view on Raul.

Ernest Reed

Sincere hope that Santi dies not come back to the EPL. I loved his spark plug play and great attitude, but for the greater of his health, he’s not cut out for the EPL style of play. Stay in Spain and play a little more and enjoy it, he’s earned it and deserves it.

James wood

Oh come Un na nails
Blow that fog away the man is demented.?

James wood

Naai

Bill

Not sure about Boateng. Great, physical player in his time. Now slower, older and more injury prone. Can’t see him being bullied, but I can see faster players simply running past him.
Not the right decision but we do need strengthening – but not with someone in the twilight of his career.
I suppose the real question is what are the achievable alternatives.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Strong links of Auba to real m

Talking bout 70m deal cash n player,
Do we get to pick the player…?

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Un..
Cheers will avoid…

Started to watch the Irishman, good story but de Niro trying to act hard… in slo mo.

Plus cgi put me off couldn’t take seriously.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Is there an6 player who had come back from serious injury ?

Ox no
Eduardo no
Diary no
Jack no

Chambers …?
Holding………?
Bellerin………?
Tiernay……?

Maybe there is a case to sell chambers, holding, Bellerin…

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Un

No the deal is worth 70m

There valuation..

Auba 30m
Callebos 20m

Plus another 20 m player..

I’m guessing

Freddie Ljungberg

A supposed rejected bid of 8.5m of our 200k a week attacking mid/winger is proof that squad poverty is not a thing or that the wage bill/recruiting wasn’t shite the last many years?

I mean that would probably get us one leg of a replacement but not much more. If you have to sell on average 4 players to buy 1 it doesn’t prove you have a good thing going, smh.

Nelson

Arsenal U23s XI played today: Hein, Olowu, McGuinness, Medley, Bola, Smith, Olayinka, McEneff, Tormey, John-Jules, Balogun

Obviously, none of them will feature against Leeds next Monday.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

FReddie
Why they turning it down for mikahteren.

10m

Good offer imo

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Un…

Good reposte sir.

Henry Root

John- Jules could start on the bench

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Nelson…

Maybe art putting out strong team Monday ?

PhD2020

Actually looking forward to our next EPL matches under Arteta.

It’s been a while since I’ve felt galvanised to bring myself to watch an Arsenal match.

Certainly,looking forward to seeing more of Pepe being included in the starting line up..And also of Ozil doing what he does best..

Onwards and upwards for 2020..

Marc

“Is there an6 player who had come back from serious injury ?”

Well plenty on here think we should have given Ramsey whatever he wanted to stay.

Double compound fracture of the Fibula and Tibia that was set in an open cast sounds pretty serious to me.

Pierre

Thinking about it, Arsenal could almost put a team out of 20 year olds (AMN the exception though homegrown)

Centre backs experience the rest all kids.

AMN saka..fullbacks
Guendouzi, willock, ESR….. midfield
Nelson, Nketiah, Martinelli…..strikers

Marc

Pierre

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Holding and Ceballos get a run out.

Redtruth

Pierre

Arsenal could probably put a team of 5 year olds out as Leeds won’t be taking it seriously.

Chris

Un

There was a good article with Michael Bridges concerning the Leeds team from 99-00 I read the other day, brought back some memories. They were top of the league on Boxing Day that season, then they came to us and lost and it was the beginning of their downfall. They had a hard time after the Galatasaray incident also later that season.

Their team was young and exciting for sure. When you think they had Kewell, Bridges, Bowyer, Smith and later added Ferdinand, Keane and Viduka. It was harder not to win the league with them on Champ Manager!

Graham62

The FA Cup is a great opportunity to showcase the youngsters and gauge Arteta’s influence on their games at such an early stage.

Nketiah should be chomping at the bit.

London gunner

This blog is full of nancies anging up against bamford like a bunch of high school girls.

Grow a pair ffs.

He is entitled to his opinion as much as anyone, or is all we want is to hear our own opinion reflected back at us?

Valentin

I would love if Nkethia were to play on Monday evening against Leeds and get MOTM after scoring a hat trick.
Seems like that Nkethia may be involved even if it just to spare Aubameyang and Lacazette. 5 games in 16 days may be too much for those. Better to keep them away from injuries.

Marc

Pedro

Still flying?

bennydevito

Bamford never learns does he. Tbf I never thought he was condescending, rude, arrogant at all, and definitely wasn’t insulting, unlike many of the others replying to him who were incredibly rude and insulting and seem to always escape punishment. Bamford’s problem was going over and over the same argument and never letting it go, making it worse by repeating the argument and reposting war and peace into the next post, it was a bit tedious it has to be said. It was only a matter of time before Pedro had to act. Saying Emery overachieved though even had my… Read more »

Marc

Pedro

You didn’t get that extra special prostate exam I paid for?

You just can’t get the staff these days!

Marc

benny

Bamford was a bit bonkers but generally polite with it. Guy just couldn’t stop repeating what he’d already been banned for.

bennydevito

I think with Kane’s injury and Mourinho reverting to type, we could see Spurs starting to drop a bit. Chelsea will continue to be hit and miss and will lose at least 3 more games and draw a few too. Utd will continue to struggle away from home against the lower teams with the low defensive block and it’s only a matter of time before results get worse because of pressure ramping up among their fans in the stadium and especially online who want Ole out because they are desperate for Pochettino. I actually think that if we can put… Read more »

Marc

benny

I agree – it won’t be easy or a forgone conclusion but we have a chance.

The most interesting thing will be how the Spud’s deal with Kane’s injury. He was out with a bad injury last season and they coped really well.

Will Mourinho manage that?

Valentin

Benny, I can see us getting into a run, however I worry that ultimately dithering on Emery’s backing cost us the few points to get into top 4 at the end of the season. I also would not be surprised if the top 4 ended up being Liverpool, ManCity, Leicester, and Chelsea by a whisker. Last season when Kane was injured, Son stepped up. I think the same will happen this year, however I think that Mourinho negative approach against top 6 teams may be their undoing this year. With the grumpy one trying to get draws and ending up… Read more »

Luteo Guenreira

Saying Le-Grove ganged up on Bamford is kinda like saying humankind ganged up on polio.

PhD2020

bennydevitoJanuary 3, 2020 23:32:29 Bamford never learns does he.Tbf I never thought he was condescending, rude, arrogant at all, and definitely wasn’t insulting, ———- LOL So,I guess when you are engaging in discussions with strangers in person,and are dismissive of their views..You usually reply with-“nonsense” ,”bogus”, “you’re a dishonest individual”,you are dumb or a dipshit” to paraphrase his words.. Don’t know about how it is down in the West Country on a tractor- ‘Farmer Giles’, but down in the South East(London and the surrounding regions) -usually such talk would land you in the A&E ward, with your legs and arms… Read more »

PhD2020

PedroJanuary 3, 2020 23:28:35
Back in NYC
—-
Which city do you prefer-NYC or London?

Valentin

I just concur with PhD, that in South London I have seen people like Bamford getting the Panda look after trying to explain to local how stupid and ignorant they were.

PhD2020

PedroJanuary 4, 2020 00:16:41
PHD, Benny was being sarcastic.
—-
He was? Are you sure??Don’t think so..Either way..

Wow,in Brooklyn cool..
Been there before..Actually was based in Manhattan for a while.But visited Fulton More (or Mare) not sure in Brooklyn..On a shopping expedition…

Cool,would you live there long term?
Or London is where the heart is?

Great to hear,career wise things are working out on a level…

bennydevito

PhD, I didn’t see him make any of those remarks in his debate with Bill that’s for sure. He may occasionally when ganged up on and insulted retaliate but nothing near the manner he gets thrown at him or as often. Here you are now trying to throw a stereotype derogatory insult at me, was that necessary? Like I’ve never heard that before. You don’t have farms or tractors in the rural parts of south east London? And what’s with the ott oversensive reaction of violence towards a few supposed insults? Sounds like you’ve got a serious steroid and cocaine… Read more »

bennydevito

Pedro,

I wasn’t being sarcastic, I genuinely don’t see Bamford being rude or condescending at all, just a guy rightly or wrongly belligerently and stubbornly sticking to his opinion.

The Emery overachieving thing though was quite the stretch.

Anyway, fuck all that, how good is it to see Arsenal playing positively and with a clear plan again? It must have been great for you to be there and even though it’s very early days, you must feel pretty vindicated.

Well done and fair play is all I can say.

#LeGroveKnows
#PedroKnowsBest

PhD2020

bennydevitoJanuary 4, 2020 00:30:45 PhD, I didn’t see him make any of those remarks in his debate with Bill that’s for sure. He may occasionally when ganged up on and insulted retaliate but nothing near the manner he gets thrown at him or as often.Here you are now trying to throw a stereotype derogatory insult at me, was that necessary? Like I’ve never heard that before. You don’t have farms or tractors in the rural parts of south east London?And what’s with the ott oversensive reaction of violence towards a few supposed insults? Sounds like you’ve got a serious steroid… Read more »

Nelson

Benny
“Chelsea will continue to be hit and miss and will lose at least 3 more games and draw a few too.”

I expect that Chelsea will buy during this TW. They’ll get stronger. They will be knocked out by Bayern in the CL and will focus only on the EPL.

Ernest Reed

“Pedro,I wasn’t being sarcastic, I genuinely don’t see Bamford being rude or condescending at all, just a guy rightly or wrongly belligerently and stubbornly sticking to his opinion.”

And you don’t think that being rude and condescending are properties of being belligerent and stubborn, Benny?

No offence, but your statement regarding Bamford makes absolutely no sense – actually its downright insulting to ones intelligence. Trying to defend the indefensible is an all time low, even for you.

Ernest Reed

And lets make absolutely no mistake, Bamford is an asshole for his atrocious behaviour towards others, and its been going on for a long time.

Ernest Reed

“Emery overachieving was a real last gasp argument based on the premise that the players were uncoachable. Think we’ve seen that’s a nonsense in 3 games. We’re not winning the league, but at least we know these athletes have some value in them.” It is a very odd thing though Pedro, that they up and forgot the basics of the game. Agreed that Arteta has obviously been a good communicator of expectations and to your point previously, Emery was indeed very poor in this area. One thing is for certain, they are playing with purpose and whatever he has or… Read more »

Bill

I’m feeling good about Arsenal and actually more positive than I have done in 3-4 years. I’m hoping the trajectory of improvement continues, if so this could be the most positive I’ve felt about this wonderful club in nearly a decade. Have we won anything? No. Are we going to be Premiership champions this year? No. Next year? No. What I’m hoping we’ll be is a team that plays with verve, passion and athleticism. That this is transmitted to loyal and passionate supporters and that the coaching is supplemented by smart buys of young, top-of-the-class young players. Maybe in 2022… Read more »

Leedsgunner

Roma trying to purchase €10m… if it was me, I would have said yes and moved him on. I suspect if Roma offer a bit more we would take it.

Here’s a thought. On transfermarkt, one of their top centre backs Gianluca Mancini is listed as worth the same as Mkhitaryan (€25m).

Would they be open to a straight swap?

Leedsgunner

Sure we need to, in an ideal world, try to get better prices for our fringe players but at this point in time we need to start moving players like Mkhitaryan and Elneny on. As I said earlier on, if we get €10m for them each we should sell them on… it all adds up!

Going forward buy quality going forward and we won’t have any problems selling players on.

Bill

Bamford isn’t here spouting the same nonsense with his interminable repetitive and circular arguments. He polluted this site. There is, however, no gag on free speech and I don’t believe Pedro tries to inhibit different opinions. It’s more a case of someone not being allowed to constantly metaphorically poke and prod to get a response, then claim to be a victim, or to distort what has been said to serve an agenda or to, basically, lie. I think he can reflect on his behaviour in his banishment. I’d like to think he will change but I can’t see any prospect… Read more »

Ernest Reed

“I think he can reflect on his behaviour in his banishment. I’d like to think he will change but I can’t see any prospect of this.”

Reflect? Slam Pedro on Twitter and cry incessantly on how hard he had been done by, thats the reflection. Then i read your final sentence Bill, thanks for the smile it brought on.

PhD2020

Ernest ReedJanuary 4, 2020 01:02:24

Let’s be honest-Benny is an apologist and an enabler of Bumford.Has been for a while along with Gertrude..
So,don’t be surprised by his unequivocal defense of him..

I mean,if you are ‘Farmer Giles on a tractor’ from the West Country,you are used to rolling around in pig muck..So,it’s normal -to be associated with pig muck-non? 🙂

Ernest Reed

Must admit, i’m scratching my head as to why they may have rejected any bid for Mikki? To rid yourselves of that salary, i think, would be the only objective. Thats just me, but if someone is crazy enough to take the habitual underachiever off your hands – hey take it and ask no further questions.

bennydevito

PhD,

Chill your beans, I was actually jesting with you too. My steroid and cocaine quip was meant with humour.