Mikel Arteta has players rocking in stunning victory

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Mikel Arteta and his players launched 2020 by rocking The Emirates to its foundations with a brilliant evening of intense football. Arsenal kept a clean sheet, locked United out of the game for 90 minutes, and scored two brilliant goals to gift us a vitally important 3 points.

The game was so good, I don’t actually know where to start, but the line-up would be handy. We really weren’t in good shape with our starting 11. Kola had to be drafted back lacking fitness, we started Pepe who has been under a lot of criticism, and we had to roll with a group of players that have slugged it out hard over the past 3 games. One thing was for sure, there wasn’t much conservatism, Arteta went for it.

It didn’t make a difference, most considered the Chelsea game a great performance with a poor result. The football was at the right level of intensity, and so it continued. The main difference in this game was United didn’t have the same quality in midfield, so it was a little easier for Arsenal to control the game. I was interested to see how Kola would operate, we know he often leaves the defence exposed with his runs, last night, Granit Xhaka would regularly drop into the left-back role to cover him defensively, or to drop him to give him freedom offensively / allow him time to pick out passes.

Our first goal came from his run. He had a one-two with Auba, pushed into the box, his low cross squirmed out of a melee of 6 United players falling to Pepe who swept home. The lid blew off the stadium, everyone in the ground is so desperate for Pepe to be a thing, that was a great start to the night for him.

The half was dominated by great Arsenal chances. Pepe found Auba at the back post, his bicycle kick was skewed over. Torreira danced through the United defence to squeeze a shot just wide. Lacazette outmuscled Maguire and uncharacteristically pushed his shot wide from 6 yards. The closest came after we’d forced De Gea into an error, Pepe picked up the loose ball on the edge of the area and rattled the post.

We did make the pressure count. Pepe rattled a corner at the front post, Lacazette wasn’t tracked, he nodded the ball on, Sokratis bullied his way to the ball and roofed it.

The pace in the game did start to dip a fraction on 40 minutes again, but I still felt we were in control. My worry was that United had planned for us to start strong and fade, with the hope of picking us off in the second half. We did drop physically in the second half, but it felt like we had more of a plan to absorb the pressure. We sat a little more deep, forcing United to try and play football, and we attempted to pick them off on the counter.

What I loved to see was the compactness of the defence. We were nice and narrow, there was aways two midfielders protecting the back four, and we were aggressive. The players wanted the result, and they wanted the clean sheet.

We had some chances in the second half, Mesut Ozil played a defence-splitting pass that was stunning over to Auba who couldn’t link up well enough with Lacazette. We closed the game out well, limiting United to long shots and diving for penalties. Saka, Nelson and MG gave us some more energy late on to see the game out.

It ended 2-0. The fans stayed behind the congratulate the players who’d gathered in the centre spot with the manager. A brilliant show of unity. The last 18 months have been forgotten, a new decade, a new coach, and a new benchmark for how we play the beautiful game.

So what did we learn?

Coaching

Arteta has lived up to the coaching hype even after 2 weeks. I don’t think there’s any doubt that he was more than the cone boy at Manchester City now. He’s taken players that most fans had totally written off and turned them into beasts. The squad is a long way from Liverpool’s, no doubt, but too many people let Emery off the hook by stating the players we have at the club couldn’t be moved forward.

David Luiz was an absolute monster, he looked a £50m centre back out there last night. He was everywhere, strong in the challenge, he was coaching the kids, he was actually celebrating good passes between players during the game with fist bumps. He was immense versus Chelsea, even better last night.

Granit Xhaka was right up there with man of the match plaudits. His game was impeccable. He was measured, thoughtful, and disciplined all night. For a man that had one foot out the exit door, he sure didn’t play like it, a total professional.

Mesut Ozil has rightly rubbed a lot of fans the wrong way, but here we are, game 3, and he’s still putting in a dirty shift at the office. He worked like a dog, he ran further than any Arsenal player, and he made a huge difference. He made a 10 ball recoveries, which shows he’s paying attention and engaged. That’s all we ask for, it’s great to see him back enjoying a type of football many said he couldn’t play.

Lacazette didn’t land a goal, but he put in a workman like shift upfront. Auba, considering he’s looking to move, looked very much into the game. Nicolas Pepe showed us a glimpse of his talent. He had an incredibly productive day and banged out a shift. It was a pleasure to watch him.

Identity

There was so much debate about how long it’d take a good coach to give a club an identity when Emery was here, but look where we are now, 3 games in and we’re an aggressive possession-based football team that loves to attack. It’s not perfect, but we’re well on our way to unlocking a lethal front line of talented players. The Arsenal way we thought we lost is here, and we didn’t need to spend £400m to get there.

Defence

Defence is always about the collective. For too long we’ve focused on it being about individual greatness because there’s never been a collective system. That’s all changed now. Arteta looks to have focused on creating a solid foundation more than anything. Everyone had clear roles and responsibilities, the positioning is absolutely clear, and the whole team works to get the ball back.

The pressing is unbelievable. I can’t believe what I’m seeing. Everyone aggressively hunting the ball down in packs. Lucas Torriera was a machine last night, the guy was literally everywhere. Why? Because he has a system that allows him to be that player.

The Stadium

I’ve not been as much as I used to over the past few years, but I’ve been to big games and felt the misery. That atmosphere last night was something else. The players created a reason for the fans to care. They were brutal, intense and they wanted to win. We reacted to it. We sang all game, stayed until the end, and made The Emirates the sort of place you’d want to sit in on a cold night in January. We finally have something to believe in, and it’s exciting.

Moving forward

I didn’t expect a win, so we’re ahead of schedule in my head. Now we have a bit of breathing space. Unfit players can get some energy back in their legs, injured players can return to stock the bench, and Arteta and his coaching staff can continue to develop their ideas. The next two months are about laying the foundations for an attack on the Europa League, but interestingly, if we can find some form in the Premier League, we might be able to have a crack at the top 4. We’re 9 points off Chelsea who are desperately inconsistent, we’re within 4 points of United, and 3 points of Spurs. I’d rather not be in Europa, but Champions League would give us a tremendous financial opportunity this summer. All very exciting.

The road ahead will be bumpy, there is lots to do, but we can rest assured the club has made a stunning decision to hire Mikel Arteta. Next season is going to be special, but first, let’s see where this one takes us.

 

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  1. Pierre

    Marko
    “Arsène Wenger: “In time, the danger, for me, is that football develops into a sport where players run like crazy people to win the ball back as quickly as possible, but who don’t know what to do when they actually have it in their possession.””

    Do you think he is referring to the last 18 months at Arsenal.

  2. Jim Lahey

    @Bamford –

    “but I do think some people are getting a little carried away in terms of what it means”

    Meaning no offense but come on… We can all see the immense improvement throughout the entire team over the last three games. The passing is faster and more direct, some of the one touch football we have been playing is the best we have seen in years. You can see players creating space to recieve a pass, always looking to get on the ball. Without the ball we are much better, its day and night stuff. The giant gap between defence and midfield is gone. Our pressing actually makes sense now. All within the space of two weeks.. Whats not to get carried away about?!

  3. Jim Lahey

    @Bamford –

    Also, out of interest. Could you select a combined first 11 using both Arsenal and United’s squad?

  4. Romford Pele

    Who is getting carried away and how are they getting carried away? Are we not allowed to praise good performances now or should we only be critical when the team doesn’t play well.

    Also the praise is less about the result, it’s more about the process. You’re seeing an identity take shape. And while it’s not perfect and won’t be for a while, you’re already seeing green shoots of recovery. We can see the team we’re trying to be. Had no idea what that was supposed to be under Emery.

  5. Champagne charlie

    Banford

    What would you posting on here longer than anyone mean? It’s completely unrelated to the fact you’re a United fanboy.

    Yea you continue to think OGS is excellent, and that their squad is superior, only you’ve little-to-no evidence or reasoning that supports either statement.

  6. Marko

    Good to see all the optimism and positive vibes back at the club it’s been a long long time. My only concern is that one positive result might get the club into thinking that we don’t need any signings this month and that’s a mistake. Another concern is that it looks like yet another coach will be aligning themselves up yet again with a player who’s constantly let us down the last 3+ years and someone who really shouldn’t still be at the club.

  7. Un na naai

    Bam

    1) if the table doesn’t lie then if Leicester finish higher than city, spurs, united and Chelsea does that mean they have a better squad?

    2) I remember clearly you throwing an a it wenger hissy fit and declaring you were going to support Real Madrid until he’s gone so let’s drop the holier than though, one club man persona

  8. Chris

    With the momentum we are building if also like to see a strong line up vs Leeds but with some tweaks.

    Arteta knows from the Chelsea and Man Utd games how the players who played in those matches are reacting to his coaching. The weekend may be a good opportunity to see how the likes of Ceballos (if fit to play) can thrive under his management.

    I’d like to see Ceballos, Holding, Saka and Willock start against Leeds. Keep Pepe in to maintain his newly gained momentum.

  9. Bamford10

    Habesha

    What is it that you think I’m wrong about?
    That Solskjaer is excellent? Sorry, but everything I’ve seen from him supports this view and I am not budging from that opinion one inch. That United are better overall than we are at present? Yeah, I’m still of that opinion as well.

    You tell me what I’ve gotten wrong, and I’ll gladly admit to it.

    Better, though, why do you guys care so much about what one (often contrarian) poster has to say on this or that point? Are there not other topics to discuss?

  10. Bamford10

    Un Na

    That never happened. You have been saying that for years, but it never happened. You are either confusing me with someone else or you have made it up whole cloth. Please stop repeating falsehoods.

  11. Edu me a favour

    “” Better, though, why do you guys care so much about what one (often contrarian) poster has to say on this or that point? Are there not other topics to discuss?””

    LOL

    you post things that will obviously stir the pot then post this corker 😂

  12. Un na naai

    Better, though, why do you guys care so much about what one (often contrarian) poster has to say on this or that point? Are there not other topics to discuss?

    Bam
    Why make the comment then? You clearly abhor being ignored

  13. DUIFG

    A lot of talk around granite leaving, I’m.not really bothered if he does.for me a bigger issue is guendouzi. How he responds to arteta is very important for him to have a career. I think a lot of people have pushed praise on him way too far.

    Since he has come into the side we ha e progressively got increasingly out of shape. This was not purely guens problem but he is like a moth to a flame around the ball which for a centre mid is an issue. And I haven’t seen enough talent to offset this characteristic. Tbh from a pure footballing standpoint I’d take a 6 out of 10 ability cm rather than some rogue player who is good but you cant plan around him.

    Next season don’t be surprised if granit is around in September and not guen.

  14. Un na naai

    you post things that will obviously stir the pot then post this corker 😂

    Edu
    Exactly what I was thinking
    I clearly remember his threat that he was off to support Madrid

    “A proper team” he called them.

  15. Jamie

    It takes a special kind of asshole to come in here the day after a desperately-needed and hard-fought victory under a new manager and try to temper the expectations of the supporters by downplaying the quality of one of our fiercest rivals.

    Enjoy the win, negative Nancy.

  16. Champagne charlie

    “Let’s just agree to disagree, and let’s see where things stand at season end. The table doesn’t lie after all.”

    Table lied last year according to you, 10th best squad in the league you claimed and Emery overachieved. So which is it?

    “(If our squad is just as good as theirs, though, I look forward to us beating City, beating Tottenham and scaring the shit out of Liverpoo“

    Ahhh is this the apparent yardstick for measuring a sides quality? Replicating 3 results.

    Is it just the three results you personally select? Like, if Arsenal lose to Watford, Bournemouth, and Newcastle can the same argument be made? Just want to know how it works….

  17. Jim Lahey

    “That Solskjaer is excellent? Sorry, but everything I’ve seen from him supports this view and I am not budging from that opinion one inch. That United are better overall than we are at present? Yeah, I’m still of that opinion as well.”

    This is such an odd hill to die on!

  18. InsideRight

    I asked a rhetorical question a couple of weeks ago about whether Kola would make a better left sided midfielder than a defender. Seems Arteta thought the same thing. Not a full on midfielder but a player freed to do what I think he does best, attack. It was a pleasure to watch last night. With improvements to the current players and new blood being drip fed into the squad, this is a side that feels like it can go places. I’m a very content Gooner today and proud with it.

  19. Habesha Gooner

    Bamford I have a friend who supports United and he says everyone is just waiting for the club to fire OGS and hire pochettino. He has lost as many games as moyes but he has played around 11 games less. They have no creativity and are going to be around 6th for the remainder of his contract if they keep him. And I think they are going to fire him. before this season ends. If not the next. So if that is your definition of excellent I will stop debating this point.

  20. PhD2020

    Bamford10January 2, 2020 14:02:42
    Are there not other topics to discuss?
    ——–
    Yeah,sure is..Like having a wager,on when you are likely to be sin- binned again?

    Alright lads,I say Perez Hilton lasts till Feb before het gets shit-canned..I’ll stake a few mars bars on it… 🙂

  21. Bamford10

    Un Na

    “ if the table doesn’t lie then if Leicester finish higher than city, spurs, united and Chelsea does that mean they have a better squad?”

    No, because squad quality is only one of four key factors that determine the season a team has. The other three are (i) how well the team is managed, (ii) what the mentality/attitude/spirit in the team is, and (iii) what injuries the team deals with.

    The table tells you something about squad quality, of course, but it reflects other factors as well.

  22. Dissenter

    Mourhino has not changed. I wonder if Daniel Levy is regretting his decision already.
    What was the need to call the Southampton goalkeeping coach and idiot before an international audience. He admitted he was wrong so why didn’t he let go.
    Now he has to deal with Kane’s injury and Eriksen will probably announce that he’s signed a contract with a foreign club pretty soon.

  23. Un na naai

    Champagne charlieJanuary 2, 2020 14:08:27
    “Let’s just agree to disagree, and let’s see where things stand at season end. The table doesn’t lie after all.” Table lied last year according to you, 10th best squad in the league you claimed and Emery overachieved. So which is it?

    Charlie
    Well remembered!!! Nice one.

  24. Marko

    I’ve been accused of being a City fan, among other things, in the past.

    You’ve been accused of not being an Arsenal fan before? Well I for one am shocked. To my core sir

  25. Edu me a favour

    To every poster that’s told us to calm down

    If you were in the ground last night would you Start going round the stands or wait for fans after the match and tell them to calm down to their faces or is it just an online thing ?

    If you had the chance Would you have gone to the centre circle with the team and arteta and told them to calm down also ? Because they looked really Happy with the result ..

  26. Bamford10

    Habesha

    I am well aware of the criticisms of Solskjaer. I think they are misplaced. I don’t know that we need to spend a whole day talking about this, though.

  27. Batistuta

    Biggest improvement for me was how the players managed themselves better in the second half unlike against Chelsea… They obviously had watched that game and saw that they had to conserve their energy more and that was a very big improvement…

    Defensively since the Everton game, there’s been improvements and less shots at out goal and that’s very great to see, clearly they are more confident…

    Just like i kept alluding to last year, the Europa league is our best route back to the champions league and we have to prioritize that competition, very important and there isn’t a team there that we can’t beat over two legs on our day….

    Very important though that the club don’t think for a second that we don’t need reinforcements…

    CB
    RB
    LB(if Kola leaves)
    CDM

    Very important to start to gut the squad slowly, can’t be deluded into thinking we have good enough players for the levels we aim to climb back to. A CB this January would be excellent, maybe a loan deal to be done for an Emre Can type of player…. Do that and then prepare the ground for the summer, absolutely important we upgrade on a lot of positions in this squad.

  28. Champagne charlie

    “No, because squad quality is only one of four key factors that determine the season a team has. The other three are (i) how well the team is managed, (ii) what the mentality/attitude/spirit in the team is, and (iii) what injuries the team deals with.“

    So by that logic your wager with Weagle and TR7 is dead in the water following the Emery implosion and change of manager, you couldn’t sensibly hold up our finishing position when you consider your own claims….

    But you do… so what does that say about you…

  29. Batistuta

    Dissenter

    Erkisen is operated, doubt they’d miss him much if he leaves, like Le Celso yesterday for them… Don’t think Levy is gonna panick, there must have been assurances that he’d get funds in the summer to get his own players so they’d just trudge along till then

  30. Habesha Gooner

    Alright Let’s leave this OGS crap behind. We have a new and improved arsenal to talk about. I still think we need a good Central defender Upamecano preferably. David Luiz and Sokratis have tanked for half the season and leaving ot to them on the basis of three good games scares me. We need to look forward not stay still.

  31. Bamford10

    Jim

    No, because that sounds like a supreme waste of my time. If you would like to do that, though, please go ahead.

  32. Romford Pele

    Mourinho said he’s trying to reinvent himself for the modern game. Not sure what that means specifically but my Spurs mates haven’t been happy with him even though they’ve been picking up points.

  33. Spanishdave

    Big moral booster last night to give the team a pat on the back.
    They have been miserable and so have we.
    Confidence is a big factor in football it keeps them going.
    Further good results in the next few games will help to build the momentum again.
    We haven’t had much to cheer about this season.

  34. China1

    But bam if OGS is excellent and their squad is better than ours why are they only a handful of points above us during our worst league start for a few decades?

    Something has to give surely

  35. Un na naai

    No, because squad quality is only one of four key factors that determine the season a team has. The other three are (i) how well the team is managed, (ii) what the mentality/attitude/spirit in the team is, and (iii) what injuries the team deals with.

    Oh
    So the fact we had 8 players out last night against a superior team with an excellent manager means what exactly?

    That only our “spirit” won us the game?

  36. Just Another Customer

    the attention whore needs to go back to tw@ter where the likes of him belong

    rubbish opinions and rubbish uptake all day long

    I can take it if he’s arguing for the team but most of the time it’s against the team

    reading his drivel during the match some wonder why he’s so adamant about being right in spite of the team

  37. Bamford10

    Champagne

    Yeah, once again you’ve misremembered or misunderstood something that has been said here. Our wager is not about squad quality, it’s about where the two teams finish in the table. I took United two months ago, when they were 8 points below us. If United finish above us, I win the bet; if we finish above United, they win the bet. That’s the wager.

  38. Jim Lahey

    @Bamford –

    “No, because that sounds like a supreme waste of my time. If you would like to do that, though, please go ahead.”

    I am not the one making claims that I can’t back up. Its simple, you have said that United have a better sqaud than Arsenal, therefore your first 11 + subs will be predominantly United. But… the thing is.. when you stop and think about it, you know you’re wrong, but you’re too deep into this now to admit it.

  39. Champagne charlie

    Romford

    Mourinho seemed to have a grumble at N’dombele this past week, saying he seems to pick up injuries often but in a manner that suggests he’s one of these guys that bins it if he’s not 100%.

    Mourinho loves a fissure in the squad, might be starting early there haha

  40. Dissenter

    Bamford
    Surely you had to know that the reaction to those comments of yours would be fierce.
    To your credit, you’ve been consistently very wrong about this OGS adoration. United have some promising young players, that’s about the only credit I can give them.

  41. Emiratesstroller

    Pedro

    After three games in charge Arteta has demonstrated that he is a competent
    coach.

    The team are now playing as a collective with a clear sense of purpose and a
    game plan. We are starting to defend as a collective with a “pack mentality”
    something noticeably absent over many years.

    The midfield and attack are also beginning to show some promise, balance and threat. Something which has not been apparent during the Emery era.

    You sense that the players “respect” the head coach and that is beginning to
    impact on their morale.

    In the 4 games since Arteta joined the club we have conceded 4 goals and
    produced two clean sheets. The Chelsea game was going well for 80 minutes
    and the defeat was down to human error and loss of physicality.

    The Manchester United game still showed some physical weaknesses in the last 20 minutes but the mentality had improved.

    Arsenal are still likely to be short of a top 4 finish in EPL, but with one or two new signings could still come close by end of season.

    It will be interesting to see what the club does in the January transfer window.
    The major concern is at the moment the long term injuries of both Tierney and Chambers. One suspects that the club will need to bring in at least one
    defender this month

    Frankly I don’t think that we can rely on either Mustafi or Mavropanos as back
    up in this department so our resources are now waifer thin.

    Midfield is at moment less problematic than it was with both Torreira and
    Ozil playing well. It seems that the head coach is also keeping Xhaka in his plans and Ceballos is nearing match fitness.

    I have still concerns about overuse of Guendouzi and Willock. They are frankly bench players and not to be used with any regularity.

  42. Ernest Reed

    “What is it that you think I’m wrong about?
    That Solskjaer is excellent? Sorry, but everything I’ve seen from him supports this view and I am not budging from that opinion one inch. That United are better overall than we are at present? Yeah, I’m still of that opinion as well.”

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Natural comedian you are, Bamford.

  43. Bamford10

    China

    They started the year with an injury crisis. That’s why they were 8+ points below us in the first part of the year. It was not because we have more quality than they do. We don’t.

  44. Jim Lahey

    Also the excellent OGS just got walked over by a guy with 3 professional games as a manger under his belt and with an apparently inferior squad.

  45. Marko

    Who exactly said that we need to calm down after last night? Struggling for a while now haven’t seen the players smile or the fans this excited for a long time and some prick wants us to calm it? What’s the point in following sports if you can’t get any enjoyment out of it. Whoever this person is he needs a word with himself

  46. Un na naai

    Bamford10January 2, 2020 14:16:25
    HabeshaI am well aware of the criticisms of Solskjaer. I think they are misplaced. I don’t know that we need to spend a whole day talking about this, though.

    Bamford
    Be a use we’ve just had a watershed moment. Devastating a team you claim is better and while everyone else is jubilant you’re on an arsenal blog telling arsenal fans that we were lucky

  47. Alex James

    I have not been an Arteta fan but good fir him yesterday. There is no doubt that this is the worst Utd team I have seen for many years but we ourselves started from an even deeper hole. One thing that puzzles me. Why is it that we are not deemed fit enough to compete effectively over the whole game? With all the sports science at our disposal, this seems odd. Can anyone explain please?

  48. Un na naai

    Who exactly said that we need to calm down after last night? Struggling for a while now haven’t seen the players smile or the fans this excited for a long time and some prick wants us to calm it? What’s the point in following sports if you can’t get any enjoyment out of it. Whoever this person is he needs a word with himself

    Even Marko gets it

  49. Champagne charlie

    “Yeah, once again you’ve misremembered or misunderstood something that has been said here. Our wager is not about squad quality, it’s about where the two teams finish in the table“

    The bet was made on the back of your supremely weird arrogance that the United squad was better than ours and that OGS was excellent so we’d finish behind them. You’re just now omitting that, but why else would a wager have been made you turnip? The grounds were that they were shit and we’d be above them.

    Just so happens your own foundational elements of what constitutes a season have been undermined here at Arsenal, with poor coaching and a change in manager, but you’re not going to acknowledge that because it would make your “win” moot. You’re very, very obvious.

  50. TR7

    Is it me or ES changes his opinion on every thing football every week ? I am sure he has argued both for and against Arteta, Emery, Ozil, Xhaka, Chambers, Holding , Torreira, Kosscielney, Bellerin, Lacazzete etc.

  51. Pierre

    There was a spell in the 2nd half when we were under increasing pressure from united.
    Torreira went down in agony with no one near him , had treatment for about 90 seconds and carried on .

    Was this planned, if it was it had the desired effect as the balance of the game immediately changed back into our favour.

    Game management is what they call it and it frustrates the hell out of the opposition and no one can do a thing about it.

  52. Bamford10

    Again, for people who put no stock in anything I say, you lot sure spend a lot of time reading and trying to rebut my commentary.

    The irony of some of your criticism of me is that I don’t “crave attention” at all. You lot simply give me a ton of attention. That’s on you. I have a POV, and I like to be read and heard, but trust me, I don’t crave attention. Indeed, please go ahead and ignore me. That won’t bother me in the slightest.

  53. Romford Pele

    “What’s the point in following sports if you can’t get any enjoyment out of it”

    This has always been my premise. If something makes you so miserable and you can’t derive any enjoyment what’s the point?

    It’d be interesting to know why people became fans in the first place

  54. Romford Pele

    CC, Mourinho is so weird man. I don’t know why he always has to pick a fight with someone in the squad. Craziest thing is Ndombele is arguably the most talented player in that squad. If spurs are gonna ascend he’ll be at the heart of it. But this is the same manager who has a problem with Pogba. Fair to say he’s the issue

  55. Jim Lahey

    @Bamford –

    Not looking to have a go at you. You like everyone else on here are perfectly entitled to hold any opinion you like.

    Its just a very odd one.. and one that people here will ask you to justify. I mean, United fans, who watch their games every week want him gone. He has been there 18 months now(?). Spent close to £150m and are still stuggling. How is he an excellent manager??

  56. Dissenter

    Guendouzi worries me though.
    For all the industriousness and willingness to throw himself around, is there a footballing brain.
    When he came on yesterday, he didn’t acquit himself well with some of the choices he made.

  57. Jim Lahey

    @TR7 –

    “Is it me or ES changes his opinion on every thing football every week ?”

    You’re allowed to change your views, its healthy.

  58. Un na naai

    Alex James

    Because Arteta wants us to play at high intensity for 90 mins and Emery prepared the team to predominantly play in our own half and back off so the squad isn’t fit enough to play the game Arteta wants to play

    Woeful mismanagement

  59. azed

    I’m with Un on Chambers.

    At the beginning of the season, I wanted him sold but he’s played well since the beginning of the season and he would not be a bad option.

    Definitely not a starter though. May be our very own John O’Shea

  60. Bamford10

    Un Na

    Except that I haven’t said we won because we were “lucky”. This is one of the things that weakens your commentary here: your inability to deal with others arguments in a fair and honest fashion.

  61. Un na naai

    Its just a very odd one.. and one that people here will ask you to justify. I mean, United fans, who watch their games every week want him gone. He has been there 18 months now(?). Spent close to £150m and are still stuggling. How is he an excellent

    Jim Lahey
    Bamford also thought quite highly of emery so it’s really not surprising. He seems to go for whatever is worst for arsenal at every available opportunity.

  62. Jim Lahey

    @Bamford –

    If you have an opinion you feel strongly about and believe to be correct then you shouldn’t have a hard time defending it. It should be simple. I just don’t see how you can justify United having a better sqaud than us at the moment.. I mean player for player I just can’t see it, sorry!

  63. Edu me a favour

    “” Bacary Sagna
    @Sagnaofficial
    ·
    17m
    @Arsenal is shinning again👏🏾👏🏾what did you make of that performance guys..Love that guy””

    Corrr calm down the pair of you will ya 😉 😜

  64. Bamford10

    Jim

    Two smart managers met up last night. Arteta came out on top. Are you somehow of the view that Arteta isn’t capable of out-thinking another smart manager? If so, you have a lower opinion of Arteta than I do. I think he’s super smart.

  65. Marko

    It’d be interesting to know why people became fans in the first place

    I liked their jersey in some FA Cup final against Sheffield Wednesday and was given a best of VHS when I was a kid and watched the absolute shit out of it. That’s my earliest memory. Anders Limpar and Ian Wright were my early favourites

  66. Jim Lahey

    Like I was highly sceptical about bringing Arteta in, just from the fear of the unknown. But it seems as though I was wrong, as I am often wrong.

    Its perfectly okay to be wrong.

  67. Edu me a favour

    Bamford “i will go against the whole blog but please don’t reply because I don’t want any attention “ 10

  68. Ernest Reed

    “I don’t “crave attention” at all.”

    Of course not, but its an odd coincidence that you seem to generate a lot of traffic – primarily because you are as combative as you are disrespectful of others. Never a day goes by where you aren’t into an argument or fight with someone. Why would that be?

    What you did to Pedro, was that an insecurity thing or you not “craving attention”. The words “you are a jerk “ apply aptly.

  69. Bamford10

    Marko

    No, it’s not. Everyone who posts here posts here in order to be read and heard. That doesn’t mean they all “crave attention”. If it does, then this criticism of me is meaningless, as it’s equally true of everyone who posts here.

  70. Graham62

    Pierre

    This is something Torreira is very good at doing.

    Is it gamesmanship?

    I think so.

    My son said the same thing.

    We both agreed though that Emery totally misused Torreira and that he is now, thanks to Arteta, showing us all what he’s all about.

  71. Jim Lahey

    @Bamford –

    Last night I saw a man (OGS) who is out of his depth managing one of the biggest clubs in the world. But to be honest, long may he reign.

  72. Just Another Customer

    yeah regarding Guen he’s need a lot more coaching to adjust to this new system

    we know he’s industrious and have that engine but he really need to improve his strength and awareness

    he knows to release the ball quickly now but most of the time it’s still imprecise and lacking purpose

  73. Champagne charlie

    Un
    I think it’s 3 months no posting if we finish above United, and vice-versa if they finish above us for Weagle and TR7.

    Romford
    Yea he’s weird dude, really old fashioned approach he takes to butt heads with a player and lay down the law. So combustible, and realistically its outdated. Rather than get everyone pulling the same direction he’s happy with a core of players pulling one way and factions all hating him. Weird.

  74. Bamford10

    Ernest

    Where have I been “disrespectful” to others? Please cite a handful of examples. After you do that, please compare the way I speak to people who disagree with me with the way that, say, Champagne speaks to people who disagree with him. I think you will find that I am actually quite a pleasant and respectful person; Champagne, not so much.

    Yeah, I offer views that cut across the grain, and yes, I will argue my views until the cows come home, but this notion that I’m rude or insulting to others is false. I’m just not.

  75. Dissenter

    I just read about the colossal money that Messi and CR10 have earned. They have earned a combined 1.1 billion USD.
    It’s just mind-bogging but certainly deserved.

  76. Just Another Customer

    your lack of intellect is an insult to others enough

    your lack of awareness of them insults them further

    if want to debate give your reasonings properly instead of sliming away when been confronted

  77. Edu me a favour

    “”” Mourinhois a relic of a bygone age. Modern football has passed him by.”””

    And thankfully he went to spurs

    If that goes bad it’ll be the funniest thing to happen this season

  78. Champagne charlie

    “After you do that, please compare the way I speak to people who disagree with me with the way that, say, Champagne speaks to people who disagree with him. I think you will find that I am actually quite a pleasant and respectful person; Champagne, not so much.“

    You have a real chip on your shoulder with me, makes me laugh. You put great stock into what’s said on here and I dont, therein lies the difference. The language I use here is colourful and 99% of the time not remotely serious.

    You, by contrast, invade social media and harangue associates of Pedro because you disagree with what’s said. You champion bans, talk about how long you’ve posted on here, and think yourself some founding father that gives you scope to lecture others.

  79. Un na naai

    Un NaExcept that I haven’t said we won because we were “lucky”. This is one of the things that weakens your commentary here: your inability to deal with others arguments in a fair and honest fashion.

    Bamford
    You’re heavily implying it
    You’ve claimed that they were really poor
    That they have the superior team
    The superior coach

    You leave little else to conclude

  80. Romford Pele

    “I liked their jersey in some FA Cup final against Sheffield Wednesday and was given a best of VHS when I was a kid and watched the absolute shit out of it. That’s my earliest memory. Anders Limpar and Ian Wright were my early favourites”

    It’s good to know. Because I never started supported Arsenal because they were successful. I followed them because my dad did and it was linked to community and a sense of belonging. Loved the camaraderie. Obviously like all fans you want to win but i’ve always found it quite odd people saying I can’t enjoy or celebrate a win. So when do I celebrate?

  81. China1

    It hasn’t taken Mourinho long to let that nice guy facade slip has it

    It was all smiles and ‘happiness’ just a couple of short weeks ago. There was an interview with him where he used the word happy something like 14 times according to sky. A few days later he was digging out ndombele to the media for no obvious reason. A few days after that he’s getting cards in the match

    A leopard never changes its spots. He would’ve been doing the same shit at arsenal if he was here. Tho he’d probably get enough of a reaction to rally the team to a cup or two, but the wheels would come off early next season with infighting 100% nailed on

    He just wants a fight. It’s like he’s compensating for something. That guy in the pub who makes eye contact with you for all of one second and says ‘what?’

    Such a bellend. Long may he stay a spud

  82. Romford Pele

    Against Leeds we should heavily rotate please. Let the likes of Saka, Holding, Mustafi, Willock, Guendouzi, Ceballos, Martinelli, Nelson and ESR play.

    Maybe something like this:
    Martinez
    Bellerin Mustafi Holding Saka
    Guendouzi Ceballos
    Nelson Willock ESR
    Martinelli

    Could argue we could give Pepe more minutes. Maybe Nketiah if he’s back by then too.

  83. Bamford10

    Un Na

    “ Jim – Bamford also thought quite highly of Emery, so it’s really not surprising.”

    Yet another misrepresentation of fact. I never said a single thing indicating that I thought “highly” of Emery.

    The most I ever said of him is that he is/was smart, hard-working and competent. That is all, and that is a far cry from rating him highly.

    The difference between my view and your view was two-fold: one, I believed that the squad was the principal problem, whereas you believed that Emery was the principal problem. Two, you believed Emery was incompetent and that our results reflected this, whereas I believed Emery was competent and smart but that he was working with an inadequate squad.

    That’s the actual history here. And at some level, it’s all water under the bridge, but if you’re going to bring it up, you should at least be honest about it.

  84. China1

    I guess I was about 8 when I started liking arsenal. Born and raised to be a Chelsea and Bristol rovers fan but randomly found myself wanting arsenal to win and watching them more. I had a shirt in 98 so I guess I became a fan in 97. Good timing on my part in hindsight…

  85. Ernest Reed

    Your body of work on this blog and Arseblog tells the entire story of your behaviour, Bamford. Much to your dismay, you really are not as popular as you believe yourself to be. Truth be told, you always manage to piss off a lot of people with you just being you. The fact that you either don’t see or recognize it, thats your problem but it does become a problem for those on here who remain tolerant of your man child behaviour.

  86. Champagne charlie

    “It’d be interesting to know why people became fans in the first place“

    Henry.

    Grew up early without an affiliation and just loving ‘the best’, liked Man United and had the black/white kit bought for me, had the green Spurs goalkeeper top bought for me, Rangers and Celtic tops bought for me because I loved Larsson and Gio, went on holiday and had fake Inter Milan, Juve, Barcelona, AEK Athens, Ajax tops bought for me.

    Then matured a bit and loved Thierry, then Arsenal, then its been nothing but Arsenal. Haven’t owned a football shirt since I was about 12 mind you, still have the black Madrid top with Zidane 5 on the back I got from the Bernabeu after playing against Real Madrid under 18’s.

    Kind of like football I guess.

  87. PhD2020

    Second day into the New Year and the drivel and almost dire need for constant attention and validation continues unabated. It’s just incessant.
    This douchebag is beyond redemption…

  88. Emiratesstroller

    TR7

    You are wrong. I have been an advocate of Arteta following the departure of
    Wenger. I was in the minority of those who supported Pedro’s viewpoint.

    I am not a fan of recruiting Managers/Head Coaches just because they have
    held that role with major clubs. I was never a fan of Emery but if you refer to
    my posts last season I stated that I would give him time and space to prove
    himself and not make a hasty judgment.

    That judgment came at end of September when it became blindingly clear that the club was underperforming and a complete mess. As I wrote many times over last 6 months there was not a game that we played this season in EPL where we deserved to win and that included those we won.

    Yesterday’s game was in my view the first time this season where we DESERVED to win on merit.

    Insofar as players you list I have been in the minority of those who did not
    criticise incessantly Ozil. My opinions may not be as strong as Pierre on the
    subject, but at least I recognised his talent.

    I did criticise Xhaka after he walked off the pitch and gestured the crowd. I was
    at that game and did not approve of his response. However, beforehand I have
    never vociferously agitated for his departure albeit that I don’t regard him as
    a great player.

    Holding and Chambers are in my view squad players, but I don’t consider that
    players that I would choose to rely on in starting X1.

    I have made it clear many times that I considered Torreira to be an excellent
    DMF. What he is not is a CMF/AMF which were the positions where he seemed to play on the odd occasions when selected by Emery.

    Bellerin. Again I have made no negative comment about this player. On the
    contrary I was clear that following a very serious injury he would need time
    to recover, but at the age of 24 he is still young enough to do so. Moreover I made also the point that he is of a similar background to Arteta and therefore would be allowed time to recoup.

    I have not made any comments about Kolasinac. In the case of Laczette I
    expressed concern recently about his loss of form and poor finishing. What
    I did say is that I would prefer to hold onto Aubameyang if I had to make a
    decision on which of the two strikers should be retained.

    So overall I think that my viewpoint on the matters which you raise has been
    fairly consistent.

  89. Jim Lahey

    “It’d be interesting to know why people became fans in the first place”

    My dad is an Arsenal fan so there was no choice really!!

  90. Marko

    What age are you Charles? Henry got you hooked? You missed out on Limpar, Merson, Smith and a few others bub. Missed out on a certain Stefan Schwarz back in the day too. Gorgeous footballer

  91. Ernest Reed

    It does require tolerance, PhD. Always enjoy reading the opinions of others and even the healthy bantering back and forth, quite funny often. Then there is Bamford, seemingly unable to get along with others and drags down pretty much everyone with a behaviour that can best be described as petulance personified.

  92. PhD2020

    “It’d be interesting to know why people became fans in the first place”
    —-
    Dad was an Arsenal fan…Used to take me to the games.Also,used to play tennis indoors at the Arsenal.They used to invite me over..

  93. Pierre

    I’ll quite happily watch Bamford take all the stick ( deserved) as it used to be me who was in the firing line( undeserved) due to my defence of Mesut Ozil .

    I’m pleased to say that due to the arrival of Mikel Arteta , Ozil is proving a lot of doubters wrong ( and myself right) , so forgive me if occasionally I allow myself to gloat on here as I know there are many who can’t stand Ozil.

    There are also many ( not me) ,who allowed their judgement to be clouded by the criminal misuse of Ozil’s talent in the last 18 months by Emery.

    I always find it’s always better to trust your own judgement than get easily swayed by others opinions.

    We now have proper manager, the nightmare is over.

  94. Marko

    I know how Bam became an Arsenal “fan”. It was his mid 20’s and he came across a blog shit talking Wenger and in a drunken stupor he knew there and then after many months of searching for a club that he had found that club

  95. Romford Pele

    Telegraph linking us with Rugani, Ake and Upamecano. Yes to the latter two, no to the first. I’m a bit wary of the English media though. Hard to decipher what’s real and what’s not.

    Upamecano still my first choice but I like Ake’s profile a lot. Proper modern CB. And he’s a leftie too.

  96. Ernest Reed

    Pierre, you have always remained consistent and true to yourself. Your persistence to stay on message is admirable, even if at times i may not agree with you.

  97. Graham62

    It always riles me when people say players are past it when they reach the age of 30.

    Look at Zlatan. 38 years of age and about to showcase his immense talents in Serie A once again.

    Project youth is all well and good but, come on, today’s 30 is yesteryears 22-25.

    We all know that Zlatan is a beast but who’s to say he can’t keep going for another few years.

    I, for one, look forward to Ibra causing havoc in Italy.

  98. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    30, I dined on Scottish football until I had a go with the remote control and saw Football Italia and started raiding Ceefax for news about the Premier League.

    And you’re wrong, it took the lad 20 years to carefully select Arsenal, which makes it all the more bizarre he barely resembles a fan at times. Must’ve been a United fan for a decade before switching allegiance, ugh he’s not one of those sorts is he?

  99. Pierre

    started watching the Arsenal , Joe baker and George Eastham in the mid 60’s up the clock end with my grandad who lived in McKenzie Road , just off Liverpool road….

    we were a mid table team for years until Bertie Mee took over and then had some fantastic times in my mid teens travelling the country watching the Arsenal , culminating in winning the double in 71 , what a week that was , won the league at the lane on the Monday and beat Liverpool on the Saturday to lift the FA cup.

  100. Bill

    Where’s Bamford?

    Anyone want to wager that we’ll see a changing of goalposts by our resident Emery / KSE apologist to “prove” that he’s right about Arsenal achieving 10th place “at best” and the club being wrong about sacking the “genius” Emery.

    Can we get an unequivocal apology from JM Bapple / Bamford / Mrs Emery?

    ——————–

    Point proved

  101. Bob N16

    I can’t pinpoint the exact moment I became an Arsenal fan but as a 7 year old in 1972, I remember being incredulous when my grandfather came around our house after the FA cup final and said it had been a good game. I responded by saying ‘ how could it be a ‘good game’ when Arsenal lost ?’.

    I’ve worn Arsenal-tinted glasses ever since!

  102. Bill

    Bamford
    The irony of some of your criticism of me is that I don’t “crave attention” at all. You lot simply give me a ton of attention. That’s on you. I have a POV, and I like to be read and heard, but trust me, I don’t crave attention. Indeed, please go ahead and ignore me. That won’t bother me in the slightest.

    ——————
    Is that why you begged Pedro to let you back in?

    Is that why you spend every waking minute here?

    Man up and be honest. You crave attention here because you don’t get it anywhere else.

  103. Danny S

    Pierre

    No one has ever doubted Ozils talent. He is a very useful player and good at what he does, when he does it.
    My beef with him has always been his demeanour and attitude.
    Personally, if I was unhappy at my work place and what my bosses were doing, I would move for my own personal pride.

    If for the last 3 years (yes his last season with Wenger was pretty crap) he has been unhappy, instead of sulking and going sick etc, he should have actively looked for a new club. The fact that clubs were not vying for his signature says a lot.
    Had it been known Ronaldo, messi and other players were unhappy at their clubs there would be a massive queu if clubs chasing them.

    Ozil has perked up. He’s not quite the lynchpin you want him to be but he’s 100% better in this system.
    Let’s give him some actual time before you fully puff your chest out. Still don’t think he’s made an assist last 3 games? He’s just actually joining in. Which is a good start.

    He’s also doing a lot of pressing and running around which is what emery tired to get him to do, which disgusted you if I remember rightly. 😉

  104. Bill

    I supported Arsenal when five. No one in family liked football. School was full of West Ham, Liverpool and Man Utd supporters.

  105. Bob N16

    My dad’s boss was Denis Hill Wood so I got pukka tickets in the Director’s box a few times a season until I was around 14 at which time I realised I’d prefer to go on the terraces with my mates.

  106. Leftside

    Shouldn’t even give that clown Bam any mention, he’s not an Arsenal fan. He repeats the same boring rhetoric and it’s only a matter of time before he’s banned again and crying on twitter slandering Pedro.

  107. Romford Pele

    “My dad’s boss was Denis Hill Wood so I got pukka tickets in the Director’s box a few times a season until I was around 14 at which time I realised I’d prefer to go on the terraces with my mates.”

    Honestly I don’t know why anyone would ever wanna sit in those boxes at games. The experience is nowhere near the same. Once you’ve sat in the stands/terraces, it all pales in comparison.

    It’s even better at away games although the atmosphere was cracking last night.

  108. PhD2020

    Ernest ReedJanuary 2, 2020 15:08:27
    It does require tolerance, PhD. Always enjoy reading the opinions of others and even the healthy bantering back and forth, quite funny often. Then there is Bamford, seemingly unable to get along with others and drags down pretty much everyone with a behaviour that can best be described as petulance personified.
    ——-
    I know..Well,he’s done me a favour inadvertently.As,I’ll be tuning out soon,back to focusing on work.

    The New Year holidays is pretty much over and I’m certainly not going to spend 2020 having to be tolerant of a manchild suffering from arrested development..

    It’s beyond crazy..

    PS
    Happy New Year Ernest and the very best for 2020.

  109. Marko

    Also this Arsenal team needs a run in the FA Cup like it needs a hole in the head. Avoid it.

    Romford from what I’ve seen of him he’s not that slow but I give him an edge over what we have because he looks like he’s a much smarter CB than what we currently have

  110. Bill

    Bam, you were kicked out of here, you were chased out of Arseblog with your tail between your legs when you were destroyed by their crowd. They ripped you a new one laughing at your lack of understanding of politics, history, current affairs and football.
    You were pretty much publicly castrated. You then run here playing the big man from Harvard and are proved wrong time after time but continue to say you are right.

    You have the front to say you are right about Man Itd having better players and better manager after we comprehensively beat them.
    You say you won’t change your mind. That proves you’re a troll.

    You say there’s nothing you’ve seen that has changed your mind. So, why not teach us and tell us WHAT you have seen AND GIVE US EVIDENCE rather than inflated opinion of why Itd have a better team, squad and manager.

    You won’t will you.

    I’m with PhD on this one. You are a slimy troll and you won’t last here.

    Best to admit your mistakes and bow at Pedro’s feet and beg for forgiveness. He was right. You have just continued to be wrong. On everything. All the time.

  111. Samesong

    Someone bought me a Liverpool kit as a kid and tried but I just didn’t like them.

    Started supporting Arsenal after watching my mates cousin David Rocastle. I think around 85/86. Never looked back!

  112. Romford Pele

    Marko, honestly couldn’t care about the FA Cup this season. Rest of the season is about building on the style and hopefully challenging in the Europa.

    RE Rugani, I think it’s quite telling that he couldn’t dislodge an old Chiellini or Bonucci. He’s not exactly young either and now De Ligt and Demiral are ahead of him. Don’t think it reflects well. Decent reader of the game but I don’t think he brings the level of improvement to take us up a notch, especially physically.

  113. Jamie

    Jesus, Chambers ACL.

    How many of those have our players suffered in the last few years?

    Wally
    Welbeck
    Holding
    Bellerin
    Chambers

    Any others? So fucking unlucky. Defensive reinforcement(s) needed in Jan without question.

  114. Romford Pele

    Italian football in the 90s was untouchable. Elite teams with elite players. Classic fixtures every week and moments of magic from so many different players. Loved Batistuta, Totti, Del Piero. Ronaldo at inter was a phenom but I think Alvaro Recoba was probably my favourite player of that era man. Too much talent.

  115. Romford Pele

    “Romford the Europa League and improving our league form is of more importance and the FA Cup does fuck all for the current Arsenal team”

    Spot on. Maybe next year when we’re hopefully in a better position we can take it more seriously but for now play the young lads and fringe players who need minutes.

  116. Bamford10

    Marko

    No, that’s not correct. I had always liked Arsenal — as I’d always liked Henry and Bergkamp and Arsenal’s lovely kit — but it was in 07-08 that I decided to make Arsenal my team.

    There were a number of factors behind this, but the principal ones were (i) how beautifully that team played, and (ii) players like Eduardo, Fabregas, Van Persie, Adebayor, Clichy, Sagna, Hleb, Rosicky. (In some ways, despite his short tenure, Eduardo remains my favorite Arsenal player.)

    I fell out with Wenger in 2009 or so and posted my criticisms of him elsewhere. I found Le Grove in 2012 or 2013 and I have enjoyed this place ever since.

    I’m sure certain types will now have a go at me for what they regard as an inadequate “Arsenal supporter story,” but I couldn’t care less. Different people come to support this or that club for different reasons, and everyone must start somewhere and at some time. I may not have the same history with the club that others do, but I believe that I see the club (and the team) and what is going on with the club (and the team) as well as anyone. That is, in part, why I comment here.

  117. Bob N16

    Romford, agree about the atmosphere on the terraces but on the half way line you get a brilliant view of the game particularly of the midfield. Having this perspective allowed me to appreciate Liam Brady’s brilliance even more.

  118. Pierre

    Personally, I think Arteta will extract the maximum out of the players but ultimately this group of players will not be good enough to win the league.

    I wouldn’t imagine that Arteta will settle for 2nd best ( top 4) so I would expect the team to have a completely different look to it in 18 months of so.

    As some have already touched on,the squad is lacking in pace and power throughout , so although Arteta recognises the importance of technique in a player , I’m sure he recognises that in certain positions pace and power are vital components that we need.

    I trust the board back him and allow him to have the final say on comings and goings.

  119. Jim Lahey

    @James Wood –

    Also I was one of two Arsenal supporters growning up in a school of 700 people! The others were 50% Liverpool 50% United, was a fucking nightmare!

  120. Romford Pele

    Bob, that’s fair mate. I’m sat in the North Bank most of the time so maybe i don’t appreciate it as much. You do get a good view in the upper stand of the East/West stand though you’re right.

  121. Marko

    but it was in 07-08 that I decided to make Arsenal my team.

    And they’ve been lucky ever since. At what exact point did you become a United fan though? When Ole got the job permanently or when he was caretaker?

  122. Bamford10

    Bill

    I have no idea who you are, but I’ve been commenting here for nearly seven years. You can follow me around, you can misrepresent what has occurred here or elsewhere, and you can insult me all you like, but I am not a troll. I am an Arsenal fan and I am a Le Grover. You might not like what I have to say about this or that Arsenal player, or about this or that Arsenal squad, or about this or that opposing team, but that doesn’t make me “not an Arsenal fan” or “a troll”. Sorry.

  123. Jim Lahey

    @Bamford –

    In all honesty it is a shame you missed out on the glory years. I definetly did not appricate it enough when it was happening as I was a bit too young!