Well, this is awkward… Mikel Arteta is… a… Xhaka fan.
“When I was going from Arsenal to City to start coaching and we were looking in that position, he was one of the players on my list,”
“This is how much I liked him. I was happy when Arsenal signed him because I thought he was going to be a terrific player.
“ He has done some really good things and now he has got stuck in a very difficult situation that, I think, was growing and growing and growing and one day it exploded. But I have been amazed as well by how this relationship is starting to come back a little bit and I think the fans have been very, very positive about him. Obviously it is difficult to change completely the scenario from where he was to a magnificent one. But I think we are in the right direction with him.”
This certainly appears to be the dead body under the patio the entire exec team missed when they interviewed him late at night when it was clearly too dark to see!
I mean, there’s only one thing to do here, look for the light that shines on this turd the best.
There’s no one else in the squad that can play the better bits of Xhaka’s game like he does, so unless there’s a spare £50m in the pocket of the Kroenke’s, it’s very likely this is as good as we can do right now. Just to double down on the claim that we spent next summers money last summer, Raul said this to the press.
‘It is in general. The strategic window by definition is the summer window that’s when you plan the season ahead. ‘Last summer we did an incredible effort where we were very grateful to the support we got from our ownership.
‘We went really one step further and made a real investment that increased our expectations for the season.’
Doesn’t sound like he’s keen to splurge. I’m also not sure I trust the club to do good work in January, so unless there’s a player we can loan, I’d rather us save what little powder we have for sharp moves in 5 months time.
Back to Granit.
You either build him up, or you cut his throat right away. If we’re in the hearts and minds phase at the moment, there’s no one that needs as much heart as the player who told us to fuck off in a shit fit the other week. It’s also clear to anyone that’s been paying attention that Xhaka is a big personality behind the scenes… he managed to bulldoze his way to the most undeserving captaincy of all time. It makes sense that anyone who is feeling out the squad would give him a chance to make good on his ‘potential’ because he really does have to show some of the players his words mean something (they didn’t under Emery who flip-flopped).
I really do think we have to take a lot of the press talk with a pinch of salt over the next few weeks. Arteta has to win over big names in the squad and he has to make the best of the mess he picked up from Emery. I would imagine he’ll also fancy himself as a proper coach, he needs to have case study signed off over the next 6 months, no bigger player to take on than one of the most misunderstood (as in, WHAT DOES HE DO?) and mistake-ridden players of the decade.
This following quote kind of confirms my thinking, but as it’s Boxing Day, I’ll be honest, I read the below quote and built my blog around it to make it seem like I’m insightful.
“I don’t want to change everything drastically in two days,”
“I want to put my feelings slowly, I want to see what is going around, and in the right moment I will make the decisions for the benefit of the team and the club. At the moment I don’t think it is the right time, with the amount of games coming up and the amount of things that have to be done, to change too many things.”
The most important thing for today is the win (also insightful). Bournemouth is in a mess, they’ve won 2 games in 8 and lost the rest. Sure, they beat United and Chelsea in that time, but they’ve been awful. Their confidence is shot to pieces, they’ve conceded 10 in their last 6. Literally the worst team in the league right now… but remember, we are normally a gift for struggling managers, and it’s not a given that we’ll get a new manager bounce.
That said, we are still only 4 points off 5th – if we beat Chelsea, we’ll be 3 points away from top 4 at the start of January, which is unreal. There is certainly a very real chance we could make a power play for the Champions League this season if Areta gets things to click. Again, it feels unrealistic considering the drama, the contracts and the confidence… but hey, crazier things have occurred. Spurs are going to be up and down, Jose struggling to impact them like you’d have thought. Chelsea boasts a young squad with a young manager that will be inconsistent, and United are shite.
I still think the brief to Mikel is simple… find out who is worth keeping, deliver a quick appraisal of the kids, and lay the foundations for next season.
“The context is very important, and the context right now, here, is not Manchester City. It is completely different. So I can’t demand the players to do some things because I will expose them and that is the last thing I want to do. I want to give them confidence, reassurance and guidance. But slowly, slowly, slowly, hopefully we will get to where I want.”
Today is a huge first step and it’s exciting. However, I want to stress over and over, the next 6 weeks are going to be very difficult. We could well be replacing 7 first-team players this summer, he has to find out if the kids have the mustard he needs, and he has to win over the fans. Arteta has to somehow build a culture, lay technical foundations, and make brutal decisions all without a preseason.
Bear with it… it’ll come good. I’m certain. See you in the comments and listen to my podcast if you were rude enough not to have already.
Paulinho – most football is done on the counter, that’s why transitions are so important. Only elite elite elite teams carve open teams who are parked. Fergie didn’t even play like that, he was a counter specialist.
The bare facts show improvements, 61 percent possession. I don’t know the xg figures, that will be interesting. I’d be surprised if it’s not materially higher than under emery
We are at the peak of a trough.
Stuck in the mire and today we had a chance to push on.
But heh ho no cigar.
No sauce just shite instead. Arteta please show some balls , ruthless what a laugh.!
Some very negative comments on here.
The know nothings have exceeded themselves today with their ignorance of the game.
Luiz, Xhaka, Ozil and Torreira were our best players on the day but looking at the dumb comments you would think they was watching a different game.
Lots to be positive about , just a shame that we were poor from wide positions with the final ball.
DUIFGD “bar the result you saw nothing Improved? So performance means nothing.You were probably with bamford last year screaming over 22 unveated when in reality we had no cohesion or discernable style. “But don’t worry we are getting resukts” haha. Let’s get pulis in to get a new manager bounce is it? Get a win playing route 1 probably. Get real” No I wasn’t screaming about the unbeaten run last season. There are new manager bounces from the off in terms of results. Arteta didn’t have that today. Arsenal needed a win today and didn’t get one. It’s a disappointing… Read more »
I do like the Xhaka- Toreira axis, a lot more solid base out of what we’ve got but I’d rather Guendozi gets the game time Willock is at the moment, lad is just not up to scratch
Not a bad start..
We need Aubameyang at the centre.
Ancelotti dominated Dyche today.
68%possession 21 shots. Burnley had 6 and 0 on target.
P.S- Everton have been the poorest team this season from set pieces and Burnley are arguably the best.
Ozil duly delivered
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You’re having a laugh mate, he was complete bollocks.
Pierre
Fans are allowed to criticize yea? If so then let people see what they want to see….Better in parts than previous games but still fundamentally poor at the basic stuff
Pierre
Accurate
FactChecker
Bournemouth 1 Arsenal 1
11th.
6 points of bottom 3.
Counter attacking specialists Chelsea and Man Utd on the horizon
X 2 Goals against Bournemouth this season
Ugly goals & Ugly performances the norm
Club in peril with FFP.
And Arsenal have not played well in one game since Ramsey left.
Raul and Edu now in the locker room
Players disgusted by their two- faced antics.
Danny
Ozil was our best attacking player without doubt.
What game were you watching. Without the ball not good but we had 60% possession and didn’t have to do a lot of off the ball work which was better for him and the team.
DFUIG – Of course it’s better than late Emery fare, but in Emery’s second game we should’ve scored five in the first half against Chelsea. Bournemouth gave us similar space today. Second half in both games it’s the usual scrappy play and any semblance of sustained patterns of play disintegrates.
You can control a game, be cohesive, and still get done on the counter. Judging us as equals to Bournemouth collectively is not the benchmark, so the end to end thing nature of the game is not something we should use to excuse our performance or take comfort from.
Auba much better today.
Laca well just get as much as you can for him.
Pierre. Spot on
Does someone know where to get the detailed stats like XG and chances created, etc.
If yes please share link
Batistuta
“I do like the Xhaka- Toreira axis, a lot more solid base out of what we’ve got ”
Agreed, they actually play like a partnership,
Just saw Bamfords comment. Correct me if wrong but I’m sure we drew with S’oton 2-2 no?
Cg
What you mean by your last line ?
“Of course it’s better than late Emery fare, but in Emery’s second game we should’ve scored five in the first half against Chelsea. Bournemouth gave us similar space today.“
He had a full pre-season and we started the campaign with peak optimism/confidence for the new era – we also never scored the 5.
Arteta is working with a deflated squad on-the-fly and has had 3 days. Asking a bit much no?
Ishola I-I get your expectations point but I’d rather die a 100 times this season trying to improve looking down the road to season 2 and 3 than cry over not picking up 3.points in Brighton on arteta FIRST game in charge. We need to get a shape and a plan for next year , this one is gone . Klopp finished 7th or so in yr 1, bossing the manager for not winning is so incredibly short sighted. If this was some guy starting a normal.job le grove basically expects on 1.week the guy has dominated his team and… Read more »
Ozil had a great opportunity to settle matters and completely wobbled like his wonky eyes.
57 league games after our Wenger has left us and a quarter of billion has been spent on mostly garbage players – Arsenal are 6 points of the Relegation Zone.
Going Well Post Wenger.
But the Head of Football Operations is still in his job.
Paulinho – not sure what to say there, rederwncjng one vague game 18m ago when each side carved each other open. Sari was new to the league and so.was emery. It was basically a free for all and you are using that as a barometer to whack arteta with .
Look if you don’t want to see an improvement fine. I believe stats have already proven me out. You do you though.
Cabellos in the Ozil role probably gives us more attack and defence wise, laca has not been the same since his ankle injury early in the season and pepeneeds to watch out, seems opponents want to do his cruciates . That’s three matches they have scissors tackled him, twisting his knee. Arteta has also got to address the fitness levels at the club , sometimes it just seems they lack energy.
Encouraging performance, disappointing result. That’s what comes with a slower burn project we’ve embarked on.
It’s the same project I’m afraid. The new guy doesn’t more time to impress simply because you like him more than the last one
For me this season is a write off. All I am interested in is seeing us improve. If by the end of season, we have improved our passing, pattern of play and defensive shape, I will be more than happy.
That performance lacked killer instinct and the final ball. It is promising If we can press a little better and do more we the space we get. Saka had a blip. Lacazette had a poor performance. Xhaka and torriera had a good game. Bottom line is we need better players.
Tr7 exactly – if we wanted new manager bounce we would have got Allardyce in not arteta. This is a long term play and its looked kore positive already
DUIFG New manager bounce is a thing. It happens quite regularly. We didn’t get a new manager bounce today in terms of result. If Arsenal were on a good run of form and real close or in top four then a draw today is not necessarily seen as a disappointing result. But Arsenal are not in good form. The opposite. So Arsenal need to win football matches at this time. It’s all about circumstance when we talk about whether a result is disappointing or not when you play a team like Bournemouth. As said previously hopefully Arteta improves on this… Read more »
Xhaka to Hertha Berlin is apparently done.
Pretty sad train of thought Marko, but if you need to score opinion points fair enough.
Can’t blame Arteta here, threadbare squad and only 3 days to improve it, unrealistic to expect much.
The fact there have been improvements says a lot, particularly as it was a bad habit from Emerys reign that cost us the match.
“It’s the same project I’m afraid. The new guy doesn’t more time to impress simply because you like him more than the last one“
The projects of Emery and Arteta are not the same. The paths of each differ greatly given their respective profiles, Arteta and Ancelotti were two different projects and we chose less experienced and more of a developmental route to the same/similar destination.
I’m not going to bother saying anything else on that front, everyone who reads the blog knows what you’re waiting in the wings for.
We need results at this stage. Yes improvement today. But you can only take that on a game to game basis.
Chelsea will probably beat us.
Man U game is going to be a bore.
TR7
“Xhaka to Hertha Berlin is apparently done.”
Seems so according to his agent.
Arsenal really should be in the market for a CM/DM of good standard in the next few weeks.
Tr7
We do need to win games though, style of play e.t.c is great and all but that’s 1 win in 13 now… We have to start winning games
Marko
‘It’s the same project I’m afraid.’
Yes it is. Project youth and arsenal ‘values’. The brief will be get us back to where wenger had us for most of his tenure- top four on a budget.
Tbh the only results which are important is in the Europa league. Unless you genuinely think we are relegation contenders, which with a team of however you characterise them are or have been international class players would then point to me to a rotten individuals team dynamic than a managerial issue. We toyed then have to do a Newcastle and come back ul clensed of the bad apples. I don’t think this outcome is likely.
TR7
Don’t you say that if it’s not true!
I’ll take that over 3 points any day.
If Elneny to Milan is true as well, (reported 12m?) We have more than enough cash to buy a replacement for Xhaka. Hope we have someone lined up already.
TR7
December 26, 2019 17:26:03
Xhaka to Hertha Berlin is apparently done.
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Thank fcking god!!! Finally a positive!
RSPCA
“””Cg What you mean by your last line ?””””
Put it this way- the players know what Raul is all about.
Money men- should never be in The Locker Room.
Never,never, never.
Out of interest: Why do you think our morale is so Low.?
TR7 Emery isn’t my idol….nice try though And the weaknesses of lampards Chelsea is clear for all to see. They struggle at home against teams they are supposed to beat, like Ole with united. Not really the traits of a very good manager. You are the one who looks for avenues to shit on Emery while blowing air up the ass of managers who have won very little and in one case nothing at all. I have already said Arteta gets this season as a pass as some in this squad are beyond useless, the radical jibe at the resident… Read more »
“Granit Xhaka v Bournemouth
•108 Touches
•90 Acc Passes (94.7%!!!!)
•3 Key Passes
•1/1 Crosses
•11/12 Long Balls
•1/1 Dribbles
•6 Duels Won, 8 Poss Lost
•2 Clearances
•2 Blocks
•2 Tackles”
From Twitter.
One of the “shit” players we wouldn’t miss and could be replaced by a manikin. Similar stats from the last game too.
No issue with us replacing Xhaka, I think we should because he’s become a lightening rod of negativity, but complete nonsense to suggest his output doesn’t need replacing within the side.
Tr7 let’s hope so, he had one of his better games today but a weak mentality infects the wider group.
Have any valuations been touted? Get soumerre now please
Charlie – It’s the old-age new manager bounce versus progression due to coaching question. At what point does the new manager bounce baton get passed to the coaching one and does it actually lead to improvement once it does.
Anyway, I’m babbling, I didn’t expect anything different today and that in itself is a continuing frustration; watching the same infuriating things again and again.
“Out of interest: Why do you think our morale is so Low.?”
It’s because of you isn’t it?
I agree with DUIG @ 17:17:49
For me this season is totally written off. All I am hoping to see is some gradual improvements regardless of whether we win or lose over the course of this season. Arteta has a shit ton of work to do with this team and I feel that he’ll have realised this after today’s game.
I can envisage what may happen here.
Xhaka does a runner and Arsenal continue to falter without him.
Then there will be posters telling us that Xhaka was under-rated.
It’s been said before though that the midfield options as a whole are limited.
Arsenal should look to get in a midfielder of requirement in any event of Xhaka leaving.
Now would be the opportune time to do it.
Bati
We won 22 games in a row under Emery and yet we were regressing. That’s why I am not fussing over results. We won’t be relegated and we won’t get CL come end of the season. If we improve our game, results will follow. And it is not like the team did not try for a win today. In the 2nd half we were the better team and should have won the game.
“All I am interested in is seeing us improve. If by the end of season, we have improved our passing, pattern of play and defensive shape, I will be more than happy.”
And some people think the board are a bunch of buffoons.
Pretty soon they’ll have Arsenal fans ‘happy’ to be part of the Premier League.
Charles it’s the same project. Literally everything is the same expectations the same. Mikel is expected to improve us and get us back into the Champions League. He probably gets a pass for the first few months having come into the club midseason but if a year into the project there’s no signs of a Champions League potential then there’ll be doubts of him. I don’t know why you brought up Ancellotti btw. We’re talking expectations at Arsenal.
DFUIG – Where am I whacking Arteta?
I’m just repeating the same old stuff about our crap squad. Guilty as charged in that respect.
I’m referring to the Chelsea match because similar guff was spouted about chances created/performance in that game and what did it lead to? Nothing really. This Bournemouth game will probably be looked back by you in 18 months with similar insignificance as the Chelsea game is now by most.
Its a results game
Fuss over results or not at the end of the day this is a results business. And we need wins now more than ever.
Great style of play and wins aren’t mutually exclusive
Rambo, are you seriously expecting us to go from a terrible run of form, serious injury issues and an incoherent team to world beaters in a week?
Paulinho New manager bounce is a work rate/result based thing. I wasn’t watching the game fixated on any of that frankly, I was looking at the structural changes, the positional cues, the shape of the side etc to see if/what Arteta was demanding from them off the rip. It was encouraging from that aspect, a few notable quirks that seem like a platform for future performances whatever they may be. It’s a hard judge this season, I’d put little stock in it until March time tbh. I’m fine with the remainder being a learning process and “starting” next season, line… Read more »
I hope people realise that this Xhaka to Berlin possible move is most probably Xhaka forcing the move now and not the club.
How ironic.
Xhaka himself breaking out.
CC
Yeah, that’s the thing with Ozil and Xhaka, when they have time and space on the ball they can look decent, good even. How many times in a season do teams in the PL afford us this much space? Not many.
This is like last year when Xhaka bossed a couple of EL games against teams that just sat back and he was suddenly the second coming of Pirlo. No, just no.
No one is saying we don’t have to replace him, that’s the whole point of selling him, getting cash in so we can buy a replacement…
I have absolutely no idea why people keep talking about the season being a write off it’s absolutely stupid as fuck we’re 8 points off 4 if Lacazette wasn’t a deceptive turd we’d be 6 points off Chelsea in 4th and playing them next. We still have a chance of top 4 shockingly if we can just get enough points till January and strengthen.
The bottom line is dung heap.football will continue until Wenger’s turds are flushed down the toilet.
Fred
“””It’s because of you isn’t it?””””
Yes , I totally forgot.
CG employed The Clown.
And broke our transfer record on Pepe and bought David Luiz, Tierney and Cebola
And off course , it’s my fault that at the halfway stage off the season – we are 6 points of The Relegation Zone.
My Fault Entirely.
Nothing to do with Raul and Co whatsoever.
Loose the next 2- and we actually hit the bottom 3- that will be my fault too.
We won 22 games in a row under Emery
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Not quite. We went 22 games unbeaten, that’s a bit different!
As bad as Xhaka is, hes a senior player and unfortunately one of better options.
If he goes we have to buy.
Ozil was behind most of our good play. That says it all in terms of it being anything to build on.
Moving Auba to the flank to accommodate Laca in the middle, has go to be the dumbest decision that now what? 3rd or 4th manager has taken???? You can call Auba uninterested or whatever you want but he brings you goals. One of the best strikers in Europe to accommodate a lesser player. Gotta let the guy score goals. Imagine if we were a proper team and we actually created some for him… Gotta start Auba in the middle when it matters and use Laca as a sub. If you want to play them both from the start it has… Read more »
Best goal of the day has to be Jordan Ayew. Son like.
Tr7
Winning football matches breeds confidence, doesn’t matter how it’s painted, we absolutely need to win games, with that will come more confidence and a belief to implement what the manager wants with confidence… Good performances without results is not what football is all about
Xhaka still had lapses today. He decided to give out a lazy flick in the first few minutes of the match giving away possession in his own half in front of the Arsenal penalty area. He was awful defensively in a play in the last 15 minutes or so on the left hand side when he completely failed to deal with a high ball coming down and let a Bournemouth player rob him that led to a dangerous cross from the opponent. But overall he was ok today and he was afforded plenty of time today on the ball which… Read more »
I don’t think if Martinelli had been fit enough Laca would have started. He’s not in form, is ineffective away from home and doesn’t merit starting games at present.
I want Matty Longstaff in Arsenal! What a kid!
Rabiot will be my choice if we are looking for a like for like upgrade in the outcome we sell Xhaka.
Raptora
Hear hear regarding Auba, we’ve been shit all season and he’s onto double figures already, may be limited in the whole hold up play talk, but he’s the superior striker
Incase Xhakalson leaves We need a Xhaka replacement and one more midfielder otherwise we will be 1 injury away from disaster.
Hojberg of Southampton has been very decent for them this season, not the flashiest but a solid defensive midfielder
Longstaff must wish he could play Utd every other week.
Gonsterous
“Leno
The only one worth keeping. Sell the lot
Great start but rubbish how we concede on the first real threat.”
To me , the goal was Leno’s fault …sokratis pass to him was a little slow so he should have just put his foot through the ball instead of giving it Luiz by the corner flag.
CG I will blame Raul and Edu for the low morale only if they read your inane comments as good night stories to the players. Peep and Tierney will come good, Martinelli and Saliba are hugely exciting. Luiz a last gasp stop gap signing and Ceballos a loan. We also haven’t spent 250m since Wenger left as you keep repeating even though you know it’s not true. It’s 200m and 26m (Saliba) of that is for next season. That on a squad that needed closer to 400m in players after the many years of inept transfer dealings and putting average… Read more »
Cg
Low morale probably caused by big over paid stars throwing hissy fits..
Ozil
Auba
Laca
Xhara
Can all do one if you ask me.
No Europe for next season is what we need,
Give art time to build his team to challenge.
Paulinho – I’m really not sure people were loving that game against Chelsea. We basically had 3 chances and scored 3 goals as mikki had a crazy efficient game. We looked horrendous at the back. Outside of that 15 m period we barely created anything which was a constant thought emerys reign when we basically knew we would create about 2 chanced and needs our strikers to be efficient as hell. Which they were for about 22 games but then we saw the reality when teams were our creating us by multiples and our luck ran out. 1 is a… Read more »
“Hojberg of Southampton has been very decent for them this season”
Mentioned him at the start of the summer. Good athlete, good engine, clean technically, and good mentality.
I wonder if salibea regrets joining now.
Lucas Torreira vs Bournemouth (A):
Duels won 100%
Pass accuracy 88%
Passes attempted 77
Ball recoveries 11
Tackles made 2
Interceptions 2
Blocks 1
Chance created 1
Shot attempted 1
Total touches 94
Why persist with the tried and tested losers.
The players are rudderless and are playing like Wenger is still ‘coach’.
Raptora
“Moving Auba to the flank to accommodate Laca in the middle, has go to be the dumbest decision that now what? 3rd or 4th manager has taken????”
It wasn’t that dumb was it , because he scored.
1-1 at OT
Xhaka said to be angry that while Arteta publicly professed his admiration for the player, he told him in private he could leave in the summer.
Hertha believed to have submitted a bid of €25 million, but Arsenal are holding out for more.
So Mikel isn’t a Xhaka fanboy. Phew
Those Torreira stats show how clueless Emery was.
Batistuta they know what you are saying
Tottenham were below us but are now knocking on the door for top four
But we are supposed to look out for team shape etc rather than look to win football matches. I don’t accept that. Winning breeds confidence then you can implement what you want to implement.
But this is just the first game so let’s see how it goes.
Not just Emery per. There were a few that swore we were better off without Torreira after Emerys horrible management of him.
Torreira is a little animal, he scraps and wins a lot, tidy on the ball. Hasn’t go tbf long range of xacka but mentality and attitude is elite in comparison. Can be mocked as a soft skill but when you’re captain (or.was) is basically a cry baby it’s not going to end well
DFUIG – Let’s see if those ‘tangible’ differences are still there in a few months.
Bournemouth paid Ozil no respect and he ran the game early on, as soon as Gosling stopped pressing and sat deep to block the space, Ozil disappeared and it was the usual scrappy stuff with both teams looking open and there for the taking.
If you want to take hope from it go for it, but you’ll see how little it means with time.
Pierre
Aubameyang through the centre and we’d have won that game.
Azed
Or lost it .
Torriera also had man of the man performances under Emery Pierre.
Scored the winning goal in one of those games.
You guys really need to move on from Emery, the culture of this football club was wrong before Emery, wrong under him and remains wrong.
If HB is offering 25m euros for Xhaka take it and run before they change their mind, don’t even risk haggling about the price, just sign the paper and run away laughing maniacally.
Left
Torriera isn’t built for the EPL.
Bournemouth gave us time and space on the ball
This appointment could be shorter than Brian Clough’z tenure with Leeds.
Marko
“Xhaka said to be angry that while Arteta publicly professed his admiration for the player, he told him in private he could leave in the summer.”
I think deep down Xhaka is still simmering because of being stripped of the captaincy. Think he is a proud player.
Of course we are going to hear different stories if he indeed does leave to Berlin in the next few weeks. Club getting rid or Xhaka forcing move. Take your pick.
Saka was exposed for the Bournemouth goal.
Xhaka stood like a bollard par the course thereafter and Gosling got the run on Torreira to net.
Torreira overall had a good game but again in one key moment he let Gosling get the run on him.
Receding,
“You guys really need to move on from Emery, the culture of this football club was wrong before Emery, wrong under him and remains wrong.”
That wont change unless we allow a manager to change it, as much as I wanted Emery to succeed it was pretty clear last spring he was wrong for us.
Comparing Spurs recent upturn to us is a little unfair, spurs have a better squad, less injury issues and while Jose has been getting to grips with his team we have been in turmoil.
Has the manager been sacked yet.