Arteta deal clogged up over politics and PR narrative

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Predictably, things are taking a little bit of time. As fans, we’re being whipped into a frenzy by newspapers and journalists trying to maximize their share of the attention carcass.

The latest odd story doing the rounds states Arsenal are yet to make formal contact with Manchester City about a release. I find this one a little weird. Arteta let Guardiola know what was happening last week, per Pep in his press conference… so it’s hard to believe Arsenal’s leadership didn’t speak with the City top dogs despite sharing a box with them at the 0-3 defeat, or after spending the night in Manchester after a botched stealth job at the assistants home.

… but let’s be honest, it’s exactly the sort of weird oversight you wouldn’t put past our leadership team.

I suspect what we’re seeing is a bit of hardball. No one wants to seem like they’re getting fisted in front of the world of football via a hidden camera. No club wants to lose a top coaching talent everyone is raving about. I imagine the posturing is about making a go of it to their own fans who might be wondering why he’s moving. They have to be seen to do something. The release fee is ranging from £500k to £2m. I am sure we can handle that sort of payment and I’m sure City don’t really care about the compensation, it’s more about the PR perception. City don’t often lose.

There are more positive stories elsewhere. Great news that the club is going to keep Freddie onboard. He’s done a fantastic job under very grim circumstances. He’s not thrown anyone under the bus, he’s largely protected the kids, and he’s spoken with eloquence and love in the media. He’s a very, very impressive guy, I hope he’s looked after.

I doubt he’ll be given the assistant job. I think that needs to go to someone with experience, so there’s a counter-balance to Arteta’s relative youth. Torrent and Rodolfo Borrell seem like very obvious candidates, but it’s not clear what positions they’d take up. There might be other names under consideration, still can’t get my mind off the idea of Xabi Alonso in the dugout, it’d be far too saucy, it might even be a distraction.

One person that isn’t happy with the move is Willy Aubameyang. The brother of our captain complained on the internet that Arteta lacked experience. Quite the opinion the drop considering the prestige position his brother holds in the team and in the hearts of the fans. I don’t think it’ll come as a surprise to many, but there are a lot of bad eggs at Arsenal, young and old, that will find their way out of the club this summer. You can’t pin this on Pierre, but really, can you imagine Harry Kane’s family slagging off ‘past it’ Jose on Insta before he started? No chance. There’s just a level of professionalism Arsenal have lacked since Wenger left. Hopefully the new regime will bring a bit of discipline and pride back to the Arsenal operation. Huss, Edu and Raul need to gain a bit of control of the squad. Arteta will need to be given time and a huge amount of visible support. If the players sense they can overpower him, his tenure is dead. I think the 3.5 year deal is important, it says we’re committed to the project. I can’t help but think Emery’s break clause dogged him, particularly in year 2 when the players knew they could end him.

Word has it that Carlo will sit out the game at the weekend, opting to take a seat in the stands and let Ferguson run the game. I’m really struggling to see the benefit of Arteta leading the team out if he’s had no time to work with the players… maybe just having him in the stands will be enough to see a performance from the players? Maybe it doesn’t matter. He’ll only have 5 days with the players before the Bournemouth game, then it’s 3 days before we host a struggling Chelsea, then we have United on the first day of the decade. Quite the baptism of fire, but at least the run is fairly breezy until we go to City at the end of February after that.

It’s great to see the fans are behind this move. I even saw some people retract statements of disgust around Arteta because of the backlash. This move is a smart one for Arsenal. Fan expectation is very low. We’ve hired in a world-class coach, that part can’t be denied, he has the reciepts to prove it. We’ve hired in someone that can speak the language of the country and the league. We have someone with Arsenal DNA in the dugout. We hope the coaching credentials will translate onto the pitch. There is lots of work to do, there are going to be rough patches, but at least there’s some direction now. The rest can be worked out over our 7 month preseason.

I’m keeping this short today, I need to keep some powder dry for the actual announcement of the coach. Fingers crossed he lands today, if he doesn’t, don’t panic… I think it’s too far down the line for even Arsenal to balls it up.

See you in the comments.

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Bergkamp63

Marko,

Where did you get that from ?

DigitalBob

Marko – Are they paying his wages?

Romford Pele

“Pepe/Luiz/Cebollas/Tierney/Saliba- only £150 million.!”

Outside of Luiz i wanna see these guys under a new manager.

Romford Pele

Hope Ozil goes but those Turkish reports are never reliable man. Ozil is hamstringing us with those wages. Getting him off the wage bill gives us so much more to play with. 18 months left on his deal. Even if we subsidise part of it may be a good option.

SP

Turkey is the best place for Ozil. He can sit in Ergoden’s lap and discuss about Chinese atrocities against muslims.

I really hope this Fenerbache deal goes through.

Graham62

Marko

I feel better already.

Graham62

If the Fenerbache rumours are true, every Arsenal fan should rejoice.

Sorry Pierre.

Romford Pele

See Ceballos is interesting because outside of the Burnley game it’s fair to say he’s been underwhelming but this is someone who was highly rated in Spain at Betis that got him the move to Madrid. Best player at this year’s U21 tournament and already been capped a few times by the senior side. He’s still young enough for there to be loads of improvement. He has the technical quality that’s needed but hopefully as an #8 rather than a 10. He likes to touch the ball a lot like Cazorla did. That quality is better used deeper. I’d like… Read more »

Graham62

I don’t browse other Arsenal blogs but what’s the consensus of opinion on Arteta?

SP

Is Fenerbahce a rich club? How much out of the 350k can they really pay ?

Guns of Hackney

Ozil is not going to Fennerbache. They have less money than Redtruth…and he’s a broke left wing idealist.

Dream10

Romford

Really hope the hierarchy don’t make Ceballos a permanent transfer. He’s a tidy player but nothing special.

This Szoboszlai fella, any good? Haven’t watched Salzburg play at all,.but.a couple of comments I read on him say he talented but struggles when pressed and lacks stamina. Sekou Koita, one of Salzburg’s youngsters is the only one I watched. He was superb in the youth World Cup for Mali.

Guns of Hackney

Artetanal FC. c. GOH dec 2019.

Romford Pele

Dream10, yeah i’m torn on Ceballos cos he’s not very athletic but neither is David Silva. Nor was Santi. They had no problems in this league. Maybe it’s a case of system masking flaws and that’s the most important thing if we can’t keep splashing.

Szoboszlai looks decent from what i’ve seen. Tall, technical, quite rangy but haven’t watched him extensively. I’ll pay attention. I like Reinier Jesus, Grealish and even our own ESR who carry good physical qualities while retaining a nice technical base. I’m interested to see Arteta’s first midfield trio. It may tell us a lot.

Romford Pele

Un na naiii. There’s loads of clips about him dribbling away from pressure and probing in the final third too. Scored a couple long range crackers and free kicks as well. I might be wrong but don’t think it’s fair to leave these guys out to dry when they haven’t played in systems beneficial to them.

Left testicle

If Ceballos and Guendouzi would release the ball earlier it would help.

Marko

The demands have to be lowered because of where we are now. Context is important

I mean they weren’t for Emery despite going into a season with one RB who wasn’t fit, defensive players who weren’t fit for purpose, a poor group of midfielders and zero creativity.

Guns of Hackney

Ceballos looked fucking shit in THIS dumpster fire of a team! Imagine that!

This clown should not be in our team this or next season unless it’s a free transfer.

If Arteta does this deal, I’m going to burn my new Arteta doll.

InsideRight

Redtruth – better to elect a pygmy than a political pyromaniac. Better to sign a pygmy with potential than a giant coming to the end of his days.

Romford Pele

Marko, Emeery was backed with the best part of £200m investment since 2018 and has been poor. Even in Wenger’s last season which was awful he reached the CC final, EL semi (where we lost to Atletico who were better than Chelsea). It was also him who chose to stop playing Torreira at DM, start playing 3 DMs at home to teams like Huddersfield, getting outshot by anyone and everyone. The squad wasn’t complete but he did not help himself at all. There were good grounds for sacking him after the first year. There was no implementation of a philosophy,… Read more »

CG

Re: Pepe

Why is it Pepe has never played a CL game?
And Why is it no one else wanted him?

Pepe will never play a CL game in his career.

a good signing at £17.2 million not at £ 72.2 million

Has he scored more than 1 goal this season?

flop

Marc Faber

The other problem with Arteta is that he has been schooled in a style that will damage our DNA even further. There are (I think) two styles of football at elite level at the moment. The hard, pressing, counter-attacking from all angles as championed by Red Bull teams and Klopp at Dortmund, and now sadly at Liverpool. This style was the one and the same style as championed by Wenger in those distant, glory years. Campbell, Toure, Cole, Lauren, Silva, VIEIRA, Pires, Bergkamp, Ljungberg, Henry. Notice anything about those guys? Power, pace, technically smart. Unfortunately the competing elite style –… Read more »

Romford Pele

“Has he scored more than 1 goal this season?” I mean he’s got 4 goals and 5 assists and has barely played. Considering he’s in a brand new country, new culture, new language, doesn’t know his teammates and played in haphazard set ups where the manager has changed formation every game can you blame him for not being consistent? We’ve seen flashes to know the kid has talent. He’s on course for double figures in goals and assists despite the issues. We bought him not knowing how best to use him, play to his strengths. At Lille, he often played… Read more »

Romford Pele

“And then we have Arteta. Where was he schooled?– Barca – bastion of tikki-takka shite – Arsenal under Wenger in his latter, tikki-takka-shite years – Guardiola, the master of tikki-takka-shite…” You forget Arteta played for PSG, Rangers and Everton. Very robust sides. Everyone remembers how tough Moyes’ Everton were to play against. He played in the PL for over a decade. I’m sure he’s well aware of the rigours of the league. He’s also on record as saying Poch (who he played with at PSG) was an influencer for him. Stop projecting and wait and see what you’re served with… Read more »

Redtruth

I fear Arsenal are going down the tubes just like the Country.
Club and Country with it’s austeriy programme has resulted in both lagging behind it’s rivals.

Romford Pele

“I have said before that emery would have been hard on any attack minded or creative player”

Attacking players generally don’t thrive under him. Mbappe at Monaco in the title winning season scored over 20 goals. Next season at PSG he doesn’t score more than 13. Go back and look at all the quotes players made about Emery at PSG. He’s someone who stifles creativity first and foremost and doesn’t foster a culture of innovation. He’s made for underdog teams.

Pierre

Marko “I mean they weren’t for Emery despite going into a season with one RB who wasn’t fit, defensive players who weren’t fit for purpose, a poor group of midfielders and zero creativity.” So ,I presume you are saying that Raul, Vinai, Edu etc messed up …big time. They were the ones who were supposed to know what they were doing. They all sat in their little group evaluating what the team needs to make us successful. With the 200+ mill they had to spend over the last 18 months , why didn’t they buy “defensive players fit for purpose”,… Read more »

CG

Pele “”””£72m is overpaying, sure. But he didn’t ask for that. We’re in a market where nobody is worth the fees they go for but what should you do? Sit down and twiddle your thumbs? “””” no look elsewhere and/or observe what Liverpool and Leicester do? The European Champions front 3 cost less than Pepe. Or You could have bought x72 Vardys they are out there you know… And they have embellished their squad with another cracking signing today (£7 million) How comes Martinelli cost £ 6million and Pepe 12 times as much? he has settled in immediately and is… Read more »

Aasim

First off, Le-Grove I feel, was amazingly accurate in terms of how the emery reign would pan out. Also, it’s support for Arteta has been consistent for a long time, and again credit should be given for having the foresight to identify the underlying trends and having the depth of analysis to envisage that Arteta will soon be an arsenal manager. My only concern right now is, I believe in Arteta’s coaching credentials, his arsenal dna and his approach towards the game. However, his man management skills I feel are still unproven. Outwardly, Arteta appears not to have that dynamic… Read more »

InsideRight

Marc Faber Interesting thoughts. But here’s some more. Arteta has never been the boss. He has always had to follow the rules and directions of other people, some of them supremely talented. Now he has the chance to break out and set his own rules and do things his way, while applying knowledge and lessons he’s learned from working under other managers and assisting Pep. It’s no different to business. Just because someone is a loyal and faithful underling doesn’t mean they will replicate the same approach to things when they break out. Consider the founders of SAP who were… Read more »

Receding Hairline

“My only concern right now is, I believe in Arteta’s coaching credentials, his arsenal dna and his approach towards the game.”

This belief is based on?

Gentlebris

The media sure love a drama, especially one involving Arsenal. They are all pushing hard for Arteta.

They must be congratulating themselves for the feast ahead.

Romford Pele

“The European Champions front 3 cost less than Pepe.” How long ago were they bought? The market has massively inflated in that time. You’re really not applying context to the situation. “How comes Martinelli cost £ 6million and Pepe 12 times as much? he has settled in immediately and is 6 years younger.” Because Pepe is a more established player obviously and has scored 40 goals over the last two seasons in a top 5 European league. Martinelli was bought from the Brazilian 4th division. What’s so hard to understand? Henry, Pires, Bergkamp all struggled initially. Chamakh scored like 10… Read more »

CG

There is an old Chinese Proverb:

“You pay the big bucks for the proven performers and the little bucks for potential.”

Eg
Genduzi= tick
Martinelli= tick
PEA = tick

WHAT YOU NEVER DO! ( unless you have imbeciles running your business)

Is pay the big bucks for UNPROVEN talent.

because if you do that too often – you will go bust!

eg. Pepe and Tierney

we could have bought Ronaldo for that amount.( PROVEN)

Quite simple really.

Marc Faber

@InsideRight, I hope you are right and I accept Arteta will be his own man in some regard. However, the circumstantial evidence seems to point to Arsenal trying to adopt the Barca/Guadriola/possesion-based system which is very hard to execute on a budget. The Arsenal structure seems to suggest this (to me at least)… Sanlehi (ex-Barca), Wenger’s last decade, Sven leaving and now the hiring of Arteta. To me this suggests Arteta has pitched what ‘they’ wanted to hear : “I can build you a new Barcelona, right here in North London.” But, lets see how it goes…. and watch for… Read more »

CG

“””Ideally it would be better if we let Arteta decide who comes and who goes as this lot are clueless.”””

Well said Pierre

And I think you are being generous.

Marko

Have you not noticed we have burned through £250 million post Wenger

We haven’t. Don’t listen to the crack pot he’s painfully stupid and wrong all the time

azed

RP

Save yourself the stress.

CG was cut from the same cloth as RedTruth.

Receding Hairline

Lots of excitement with very little substance to back it up We did not hire one of the best coaches in the world, no one else seems to think so apart from certain parts of the Arsenal support. Read around and no opposition fan is trembling in his boots. Tone down the excitement a bit, this is a really tricky gamble and lets hope it pays off. You can praise or express doubts over a hire based on his antecedents, in this case we don’t even have that luxury. Every praise or criticism is based on hunches and hearsay. How… Read more »

Marko

Ideally it would be better if we let Arteta decide who comes and who goes as this lot are clueless

Nope. No experience whatsoever with signings and post Wenger/Sven we’ve signed Tierney, Saliba and Martinelli and been linked with some other good young prospects. It should be by committee and not by one individual we don’t want to get back to the days of Arsene pissing away 100’s of millions. Let Edu and Cagigao earn their paper

Marc

CG Sorry but this slagging off of Pepe is unfair. As has already been said he’s come in to a new country, new language and a new team that’s been severely dysfunctional. It took Pires and Henry a while to settle and they were in a far more accomplished team than the current Arsenal. You don’t like him – fine but don’t use bullshit stats like he’s never played a CL match when you were calling for us to sign Zaha who would have cost more, is older and hasn’t played a CL match either even though he spent time… Read more »

Marc

Marko

No one’s going to have a problem with Arteta having input into transfers but as you say it’s not how modern clubs operate.

Isn’t it widely reported that Klopp favoured another players over Salah but was overruled?

Marc

“new country, new language and a new team that’s been severely dysfunctional.”

Just in case anyone was confused I meant the team has been dysfunctional not the language or the country despite what some would tell you!

Moray

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/19/freddie-ljungberg-warns-arsenal-chiefs-poor-attitude-players-wont-change-mikel-arteta-appointment-11934471/?ito=newsnow-feed

Apologies if anyone has linked this article before.

What a weird situation if This is true. Freddie’s hardly new to the club. Has he just realised there is a serious attitude and application problem?

Chris

Well said Romford Pele regarding Pepe.

Guns of Hackney

Arghh…the new country thing again when a player turns out to be garbage. Nonsense.

Does a heart surgeon forget to heart surgeon if say they moved from England to France? Are French hearts in a different location or are there 24 of them in there? Fucking no.

Football is football everywhere. If you can’t play a basic game like football anywhere you go, you’re a complete fanny.

goonerjay

Some people on Le-Grove these days are some of the most whiny, prissy little bitches in our fanbase. Cheer up, back the new coach or f*ck off. Most of you are paid peanuts to do jobs that require little brain power but go on like you should be running professional football clubs. If only your football knowledge actually matched up to your supreme arrogance and negativity you’d all be millionaires.

Chris

Moray If that article is anywhere near the truth I’d be happy to see the unhappy players turfed out unceremoniously. They probably wanted Ancelotti as they have heard about his lax training sessions and fancied a bit more of that, not a coach such as Arteta who is said to demand 100%. Emery clearly wanted the players to work hard but didn’t gain their respect as well as their being communication difficulties. Arteta is unlike to suffer from not getting his message across and hopefully the club back him rather than some players who quite frankly shouldn’t even be here… Read more »

Receding Hairline

😂
Says the man spunking in his shorts all summer over Ceballos and Emery. How humiliating. And now he’s here nailing his colours again firmly. If Arteta outperforms emery you’re going to look and even bigger cunt than you already do with your bobby charlton special.

The resident toddler cries again

Marko

Isn’t it widely reported that Klopp favoured another players over Salah but was overruled?

It was Brandt. Also reportedly wanted a different CB when their initial approach for VVD failed but higher ups decided to wait the extra 6 months. Even now with Minamino that seems like such a club signing whereas Klopp probably wanted Werner. Like the signings he wants aren’t bad either but if it ain’t broke don’t fix it

Marc

Moray

I’d take a big chunk of that article as either bullshit or click bait.

To “interim boss” Ljungberg has been shocked by poor attitude etc? He’s been Ass Manager since the summer if he hadn’t noticed before he should be kicked out of the club ASAP.

Guns of Hackney

Ass Manager lolz

Some funny shit today.

Keep up the good work guys.

Receding Hairline

So we are all meant to go Yay this is wonderful, we have one of the best head coaches in football (despite him never having held that position in his life)no room for doubts, no room for differing opinions, we are all going to scream the future is bright based on no evidence at all. What is wrong with saying “i understand why he is appointed and i am excited to see what he has in his locker while still admitting it may not actually work out? So because you backed the previous gaffer, with an actual body of work… Read more »

Marc

jay

“Some people on Le-Grove these days are some of the most whiny, prissy little bitches in our fanbase”

I’ve never met an Arsenal fan in the real world who comes close to some on here for what you claim!

Guns of Hackney

Marko

Why? Don’t just say something without grounding. Why am I stupid?

Person says footballers needs time to play football in foreign country. I retort with an example that is spot on. A doctor doesn’t forget how to be a fucking doctor if they moved country or had to perform a medical emergency while on holiday somewhere…so why does a footballer need all this time to acclimate to a game they have been playing for, probably 20 years?

Now, why am I stupid?

Romford Pele

Do you know the mad thing? In real life everyone is nice and polite so I don’t know why people try and put on an image on the internet, especially social media it’s mad.

Social media is great because everyone can have a voice but i’m not sure everyone deserves it. And some people talk with no remorse because there’s nobody to punch them in the face.

Marc

Guns

If you don’t know that it sometimes takes overseas players time to adapt to the PL then trying to explain it to you is a waste of time.

Guns of Hackney

I give up.

Gentlebris

‘Ideally it would be better if we let Arteta decide who comes and who goes as this lot are clueless.’

Exactly the opposite of what they intend.
They are so incompetent that they know it themselves, and it scares them that an elite coach would expose them in six months flat.

They spent £200m and only managed to bring the team rock bottom technically.

The wastrels.

Marko

Why? Don’t just say something without grounding. Why am I stupid?

Because the analogy you used is stupid. A heart surgeon doesn’t forget how to surgeon in a different country. They’re not easily comparable you dummy. Especially given the physical aspects. How about a heart surgeon from a nice clinic with the best equipment and one in a war torn country using plastic utensils. Should be fine according to you right? Things don’t always go seamlessly especially in sports especially in a team based environment.

Marko

I give up.

Smartest thing you’ve said all year

Romford Pele

“Things don’t always go seamlessly especially in sports especially in a team based environment.”

This really.

In sports like Tennis/Boxing/Golf etc everything is on your own individual performance. In team-based sports, your ability to perform well can be influenced by a number of actors. It’s not hard to understand.

Guns of Hackney

Marko

Doctors in war torn countries don’t use plastic utensils.

Grow up.

Romford Pele

factors*

Marko

Worth pointing out that Eden Hazard one of the best players in the premier league in his last 8/9 years in England has really struggled in Spain since joining Real.

Guns of Brixton

Antonio Zarzana

Guns of Hackney

As RP just said…you can hide in a team.

Guns of Hackney

Eden Hazard is a fanny.

CG

Walt I wish you would not make excuses for these Dopes. Whats the rationale with the Pepe signing for the preposterous £72 million? A) to get us immediately back into top 4 ( to help recoup some money for the deal)? B) to sell him on for a profit ( difficult to make profit on £72 million as only a handful of clubs have that sort of money) C) so he scores some goals in The Loosers on a Thursday night? D) Make Raul look good and grease some palms? No logic or basic business strategy whatsoever to shell out… Read more »

jwl

Hiring Arteta is desperate, he going to be next René Meulensteen, we will be eighteenth in March and looking to hire our third manager of season. I seriously have no idea where the hype for Arteta comes from, if he had any talent at all he would already be managing somewhere and proving himself, not sat beside Pep for four years.

And why does Arteta deserve time to fix squad but Emery did better than Wenger in his first season but it was claimed he had no idea what he was doing?

Marko

Doctors in war torn countries don’t use plastic utensils.Grow up.

They don’t work in the same conditions as some cunt in Beverly hills though do they? But according to you the results should be the same.

Edu me a favour

“” if he had any talent at all he would already be managing somewhere and proving himself, not sat beside Pep for four years.””

He had offers and turned them down

Ffs just do a simple google search

Marko

In team-based sports, your ability to perform well can be influenced by a number of actors. It’s not hard to understand

Exactly. Pepe coming in and struggling in a team that has shown itself to be utterly incompetent these last few years is no way an appraisal of his ability or what he’s capable of. Despite those struggles he’s still having a better statistical season than Zaha who would have apparently hit the ground running and seamlessly fitted in at Arsenal

Guns of Hackney

Marko

Are you seriously comparing Pepe at Lille being akin to Beverly Hills and at Arsenal to Aleppo?

Christ. The only difference is his salary. Which at Arsenal is much fucking bigger.

Anyone that can’t perform under pressure is a wet winkle.

Guns of Hackney

Stop it Peter. You’re going to wind a few people up so much they will start reading Untold.

Marko is a disaffected Arsenal fan who needs a hug from a great white shark’s mouth, that’s all.

Marko

You need to start respecting GOH and his elite opinions. Any more bullying and you’ll find the sin bin.

At the risk of a ban what elite opinions? Bullying? Relax man I don’t think it’d be possible to bully someone who threatened someone else’s family on here before (without being banned by the way). He can take it

CG

GoonerJay

“”actually matched up to your supreme arrogance and negativity you’d all be millionaires.”””

I am though.
I own 1/4 of the Eastern Cape
1/3 of Namibia coastal.

And most of Pretoria ( but that’s not worth too much)…..flatlined on me badly.

I invest in the Footballing Futures markets – and its very lucrative.

Buy them Everton Goals.

Gentlebris

What is happening to Arsenal? What has happened to these few supporters that are of the opinion that a man who has never done the job before is the best we could hire to solve these deep problems on the pitch? Emery has lots and lots of experience and has actually done smart work before and we saw with our eyes how he wrestled with the problems and failed. Now you think a zero-experienced rookie who is being rejected by the players themselves is the best we could do? And you are actually urging the club on to do it?… Read more »

Marko

Anyone that can’t perform under pressure is a wet winkle.

Elite thinking that. Hazard at Madrid, Fabregas at Barcelona, Kaka at Madrid come to mind instantly. Ramsey at Juve, Keita at Liverpool, draxler at PSG are some more.

azed

“Marko,You need to start respecting GOH and his elite opinions. Any more bullying and you’ll find the sin bin.”

Pedro

Does GOH have pictures of you cheating on your oat milk with Peroni 😮😮😮

Guns of Hackney

Marko

I’ve told you and everyone else on here a hundred times, there was a rogue GOH who had an umlaut over the O who gave me a bad rap sheet. Small detail, but easily missed.

I’m a peace loving war machine who just wants to see Arteta do wonderful good looking things at Arsenal.

Peter is winding you up and you’re biting. Stop being silly.

Marko

Marko, you’ve been name calling for three days.

A bit lose with the stupid name calling I’ll admit but I ain’t never said anything “offensive” and I ain’t threatened someone’s family though. But do as you will.

Guns of Hackney

Azed

Le Grove and Pedro are actually GOH, and vice versa. Hasn’t anyone worked this out yet?

Marko

To be fair I get the feeling I’ll be banned more than ever when Arteta comes in. Even though I’ll be honest I’m not going to act like some of the previous twats on here the last 18 months I’m actually going to give him time and two transfer windows before I totally condemn him. Not two games like Pierre gave Emery or 13 games like TR7 gave Emery or 5 minutes that Pedro gave Emery. Unless he’s woefully bad he gets 12-18 months and at least two windows in.

jwl

Edu me a favour – so what you’re saying is we are hiring novice prima donna that thinks anything below Arsenal is a waste of his time?

Pedro – there are very good reasons why top clubs don’t hire inexperienced managers. Only middling clubs think we should roll the dice and see what happens, best clubs hire people with experience. Hiring Arteta shows how desperate Arsenal are, we can’t even attract top tier managers, we have to hire assistant with no experience other than putting out cones.

Micheal

Reading all the negativity about Arteta on here set me thinking. Thank goodness Le Grove did not exist when Wenger signed – Arsene Who would have been polite.

Gentlebris

‘Hiring Arteta is the opposite of desperate. It’s visionary. Almost spoilt.’ Visionary? Visionary is having the sense of what the future holds BASED ON THE ACTUAL DATA you have today and acting accordingly. Taking an action aimed at having an advantage in the future without having any data with which you make your decision is totally daft, not visionary. Hiring Arteta is like signing a smart looking dude who has never kicked a ball before to top strike for us just because you felt he could be a good footballer based on the sentiments of his friends. It is extremely… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Marko

That just shows you up as a poor judge, it’s not a grand statement to make at all despite the weird pride you’re trying to display in your convictions.

You couldn’t see the forest for the trees with Emery, ignored the tells, we suffered for not being rid in the summer, yet you’re still sticking to your inane guns of giving someone 18 months before judging them vs recognising issues when they occur.

Nelson

I am sure that those who are opposing Arteta, have never met him and talked to him before. I read that he has many good ideas of the game. He’ll have a plan already how his team supposed to play. He’ll need 100% support from the board to manage the players. The three players who may be difficult to manage are Auba, Laca and Luiz. All others will play for the shirt.

WrightIsGod

I used to come on here and argue with Pedro and his bum chums that Gazidis could not be trusted to do anything right. I was right. I would argue post Wenger (I was always WengerOut) due to the mess he left behind that things would get worse before they got better. I was right. Pedro does tend to dress his personal attachments as well informed opinions, the Arteta loving is no different. However, I think this decision to appoint Arteta is the best one we could have taken at this time. We have nothing to lose this season. If… Read more »

Distant legrover

The real surprise is that Arteta still wants the Arsenal job after seeing how bad we were this weekend against City.

For a petite man, he got some Godzilla balls on him.

WrightIsGod

Nelson

“ The three players who may be difficult to manage are Auba, Laca and Luiz. All others will play for the shirt.”

You’ve clearly never met Ozil, Xhaka and Mustafi.

jwl

Michael – Wenger was experienced coach, he won league at Monaco, he was not some random fella with no experience that people said nice things about.

Redtruth

Michael
“Reading all the negativity about Arteta on here set me thinking. Thank goodness Le Grove did not exist when Wenger signed – Arsene Who would have been polite.”

The difference being the bland Spaniard has lived in England for over 10 years and not an unknown quantity.

Guns of Hackney

At this time of the early evening, the real creeps come out…so I’m checking out.

Arteta will tear the PL a new one.

Bob N16

Agree Nelson, I’d be amazed if at least one of the three you’ve mentioned doesn’t find themselves driven out after ‘taking on’ Arteta’s authority. My money’s on PEA if his brother’s wittering should be taken seriously.