Arteta signing imminent, here’s what to expect + new scout details (Long Read)

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We’re nearly there people, the Arteta stories have moved from…

‘NEGOTIATIONS HIT SENSITIVE PHASE OVER OFFICE FURNISHINGS’

‘VIEIRA IS THE FAVE’

‘WENGER SPOTTED AT COLNEY’

… towards, who will he sign and who will he steal from Manchester City.

It’s being reported that Arteta will pick up £5m p/a on a 3.5 year deal.

There are lots of suggestions about who his potential assistant could be, perhaps Domènec Torrent, Pep’s 57 year ex-assistant from Barca B, Barca, Bayern and City. Or 48-year-old Rodolfo Borrell, a 13 year tenured youth coach from Barca (Pique, Pep, Messi), who worked his magic with Liverpool (Sterling) and later as a Global Tech Director with Manchester City. There’s even a story that we’re stealing one of their top youth scouts, Sam Fagbemi. According to his LinkedIn, he’s a massive Gary V fan, and specifically the Manchester City youth team scout for the South of England. He actually appears to have officially spent 15 months at Arsenal, he’s also listed 6 years prior to that with us, which might have been part-time while he studied.

Here’s how he describes himself (edited to reduce words).

I hold a strong enthusiasm and passion for the industry of sports, part of this passion and drive is identifying talents in relevant sporting areas; and a contribution in terms of development. One area of this contribution involves scouting and recruiting for ages 5-16, in specific areas in London, for football. Many who know me know my passion is scouting and recruitment. I’m an out and out scout! I also follow up on every lead given!

I am always striving to improve my performance and my knowledge, whatever you put into your work, in most cases, is what you get out of it. I aim to put in a 100% at all times.

I have very unique methods of scouting and a strong determination and hunger. I’m blessed to be part of a very good team of experienced staff, which I learn from on a day to day basis.

“THE FUTURE OF ANY BIG CLUB HAPPENS IN THE ACADEMY”. 

Sam, any man that uses block capitals to power home a message is a friend of Le Grove. Me, you, Donald Trump… what a team.

Here’s some of the stuff from his Arsenal job he rocked prior to moving up north in 2017.

Key Responsibilities

  • Identifying players at the required level through the use of video and numerical analysis.
  • Researching identified players in-depth using rigorous methods.
  • Building a video scouting capability, liaising with the Chief Scout but also the Player analytics team and the scouts in the field.
  • Identifying Players with whom his Club may wish to enter into negotiations with a view to securing their
  • Working with PROZONE and/or SPORTSCODE, Microsoft Excel and Sony Vegas and/or Final Cut Pro.
  • Working as part of a recruitment department at First Team/Academy Level.
  • Leading the storage, maintenance and collection of data regarding Player performance in training and matches.
  • Managing and overseeing an online scouting data resource.
  • Interfacing with some of the football analysis software vendors contracted by the Club.
  • Developing new and insightful initiatives and practices for evaluating Player and team performance.
  • Initiating and conducting ad-hoc research projects for the benefit of team and individual performance.

Sam seems to be up to lots of things, he reads like an innovative. Scouts, coaches, has dark arts. I’m sold. This guy definitely drinks oat milk lattes, has an opinion on how you pronounce trequartista, and he reads Mundial.

I think I’d be slightly worried if I were a City fan, not because Arteta is going to snatch the league this year, more because it seems like the staff are making moves before something drastic happens this summer to the main man Pep G.

Back to Arsenal. This move, when it happens, is a huge step forward for the club. They could have taken the easy option that’d placate the ‘safety’ crowd, but they didn’t. Carlo was passed by, Martinez was rightly told where to go, Raul gave up on Nuno, and we dodged anything Kia J could throw at us.

We moved for the hottest young coach in the world. We opted for the moon-shot. Arsenal has positioned itself as a forward thinking football club and they should be applauded for the boldness of this decision.

Rumor has it Arteta will be in dugout for the Everton game this weekend, fitting, wouldn’t you say? One club has opted for the future, the other has anchored itself to the past.

So what should we expect?

Hearts and minds

Wenger (Merson), Emery (Cech) and Freddie (Xhaka) all did it. You have to play the hearts and mind game with the squad to start with, that means the unsuitable big names will likely feature. Go in dick swinging early, the senior players will down tools on you, and you’ll have a miserable start to your career. I have personally made the mistake. I started a big job, disliked the talent and the process, so I tried to make changes early. My intuitions were right, but my early actions made me the enemy of a lot of people. Always give people a chance to fail. Everyone will likely have the opportunity to prove themselves to Arteta, and so they should. This is not a caretaker situation, so hopefully we’ll see performances move up a level, if not, then the action will be taken.

Statement of Intent

I would suspect a huge part of interview process would have centered around the type of football we’re likely to see. The fans want to see excitement, it’s a simple as that, we are not about pragmatism, never will be. Mikel Arteta will have been hired to bring back Wengerball with a modern twist. He will go on the charm offensive with the fans early on and rectify all the wrongs of Unai Emery’s inane jabbering. Expect him to wax lyrical about style and vision when he sits in that first press conference, be assured that he’ll play up his Arsenal DNA, and let’s hope he can articulate a sniff of what the future holds. Maybe he’ll shed a tear? I’d like that.

No one ever cared about Emery, he couldn’t speak to us in English, let alone in authentic terms. Arteta will be different, he’s a trophy winning excaptain with a formula we want. He’ll hopefully have a ‘Mourinho walking through Chelsea in a Spurs tracksuit’ like moment that we can all get behind. Maybe a knuckle duster in his pocket at The Toilet Bowl? Too far?

A shift in style

Freddie is a fan and a solid coach. He wanted to move our football to the next level, but he lacked the resource, time, and backing to do it. Arteta is a different beast. He’s the man that controls the future, players that want to stay will know this. He’ll be confident he can move the club to another level this season. Expect a rough 3 months, but don’t be surprised to see glimpses of very exciting football well before the 3 years most of you were willing to give Emery to change things up. He’ll want to prove to the fans and the board he is a coach, first and foremost. Good coaches make magic happen with whatever tools they are handed. Jurgen Klopp had Liverpool in beast mode early on, though intermittently, with a far worse squad. Nagelsmann saved Hoffenheim from relegation in his first season, then took a team with a sub £40m wage bill to the Champions League with elite coaching. I don’t think it’s unfair to expect to see the makings of a footballing identity early on. Just don’t expect consistency this year.

Focus on Youth

Part of the hearts and minds offensive strategy will be to woo the fans with his approach to youth. I see there being two key initiatives. Firstly, like peak-Game of Thrones, there will be some senior heads that will roll. Not immediately, but rest assured, he’s taking someone big down. The solve for the molten-steel-on-the-head slaying will be bringing a kid into the mixer that we didn’t expect, or one that we didn’t expect because they’ve been average. He needs a poster child for his elite coaching to prove the fans he was worth the hype and to show the best kids in world football that they should give their early careers to us. We need to be the Ajax, Atleti or Dortmund of the Premier League. There will be a huge clear out of senior players this summer, we have to bring in replacements like Brandt, Haaland and Aouar if we’re going to push on next year. You only do that if those names are convinced by the coach.

A brutal summer

There are some great people at the club and there is some real shite. I fully expect the club to use this next 5 months to reshape the way we operate. Expect exits from the backroom team, be sure that there will be a very busy summer of players on the cards, and understand that there will likely be a lot of ‘who the fuck?’ people signing on for Arsenal.

Raul needs to make this work, he’s under pressure. Edu needs to show the fans he’s more than a well dressed, beautifully groomed, elitely (word?) fragranced man. Arsenal need some wins.

We do not have time to fuck around. The next 3 years will be the difference between us being a super club like Liverpool, or falling into complete irrelevance like Spurs in the 90s.

If Arteta is the man to take us forward, the vision is clear, the Arsenal way is about high intensity pressing, attacking football, geared around exciting young players. Now we know that, the technical team has to work their magic and make sure there are no excuses for failure.

This is it. It’s the future we’ve been waiting for. This is the most exciting move we could have made. Back it, because if it works, this really could be the next level Wenger was talking about.

I am absolutely thrilled, I hope you are too.

See you in the comments x

578 Responses to “Arteta signing imminent, here’s what to expect + new scout details (Long Read)”

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  1. Rambo

    Romford,

    High praise indeed.

    Latest quotes though have both Pep and Wenger doubting whether this was a good fit.

    Personally I think Arteta is in way over his head and has fvcked up by taking a career-killer job.

  2. Romford Pele

    Rambo, it’ll be interesting to see. Eventually you have to cut your cloth somewhere and the options aren’t great at the moment so I don’t mind taking it.

    Essentially it would’ve been easier for him to stay at City where they have a great team and better chance of success for the short term but he obviously backs himself and it requires balls to take on this role in our mess of a squad so good luck to him.

  3. shaun

    I think it is really important to define the new manger or coach’s role and especially when it comes to player purchasing .I see a manger as having more influence then a coach when purchasing players so lets hope Arteta is comming as manager and not just first team coach as that maybe part of the issue as well

  4. Dissenter

    Sky sports is one of the crappiest places to get information from. The same site that posts betting odds right under the ‘news’. They are probably trying to make money off bets about his soon Arteta is announced.
    The Arteta deal is done. Why else would the CEO and contract guy be at his house till 1am on Monday morning?
    I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a swinging expedition?
    He’s met Josh Kroenke was has since returned back to the states.

  5. Batistuta

    While I’d agree to an extent that good coaching might get us to be a bit more watchable with a discernible style of play, I’d sooner see the back of more than half this squad… We need better and there’s definitely better out there.

    For Arteta to be successful ( which i badly pray he is), he’d need to take a hammer to this squad and break if off between January and the summer

  6. Romford Pele

    It would be a huge surprise if it wasn’t Arteta at this stage. Like Dissenter said our contracts guy was at his house at 1am. All the sources point that way. Even pep still doesn’t want him to go but this opportunity might not come again for him

  7. Receding Hairline

    Sorry to be that guy but nowhere in that link you posted did it say two time champions league winner Joseph Guardiola called Arteta to ask him what was needed to succeed in England before taking the City job.

    Some of you are overselling this.

    Buvac was called the brain by Klopp, he is gone now and klopp is getting stronger. An assistant is an assistant.

    If Arteta tries to be Pep lite he has failed before he started. He has to be Mikel Arteta, have his own thing, his own way.

  8. Dissenter

    I agree with Rambo
    If Arteta is as good as his Pedro drooling then surely he should have waited for the right job like Brendan waiting till Leicester came calling.
    Until we clear out half the squad, any new manager is imperiled from the get-go.

    You have Auba’s brother saying publicly that the manger is ‘too inexperienced like the last guy’. He has his work cut out for him.

    The club didn’t back Emery when Ozil petulantly abused him in Baku after putting in a lousy performance. Hope they change tack and not let such blatant disrespect ruin a young manager’s career.

    When Carlos Tevez did less at city to Mancini, he was gone the next week.

  9. Marko

    As for the dark arts stuff I kinda agree we don’t do tactical fouls enough probably don’t know how but fouls aren’t really the issue for me we’ve got plenty of braindead idiots who rack up yellows every season like Granite and Sokratis. The issue for me is not having players capable of tackling. We’re 18th in the league for tackle success that’s shocking we’re high on errors to goals as per usual. These are undeniable facts on individuals. Sure tactics and this and that can have an effect but it won’t matter ultimately if the players aren’t good enough.

  10. Batistuta

    Rambo

    That’s the thing isn’t it…There’s a lot of them petulant players at the club we need to be rid of and fast

  11. Dissenter

    The problem with novice managers is that they quickly lose the dressing room.
    Millionaire footballers on long term contracts, especially those who have no national team commitments don’t have that much motivation to listen to listen to a hot sauce manager with no experience.

    Hopefully Arteta gets a good bounce, at least let’s go unbeaten over the Christmas period.
    Is he gets a bad start from the first 3-5 games, , he may never recover from it.

  12. Batistuta

    If you’re going the route of young manager, you’d need the squad to be an average of a certain age, players who’d listen to whatever it is the manager is trying to say/implement and a board ready to quickly dispense of whoever is not part of their plans moving foward… No more lashing out the manager, no more agent leaking stupid stuff to the press, there needs to be a plan from the bottom down especially with regards recruitment

  13. Rambo Ramsey

    Batista,

    If we as fans raise our eyebrows at this appointment, why do you expect senior players who have to put their careers on line for managers to lay down and not express their concern?

  14. Dissenter

    The entire recruitment needs to change.
    We need to start getting battlers, players who love the physical aspects of the game like tackling.
    Pepe is lousy at tackling
    Auba is lousy at tackling
    Ozil is lousy at tackling
    Laca tackles but mostly from a position of losing the ball due to a lousy first touch and trying to recover.
    Martinelli is good at this but if they keep him around sloth, he too will become lazy.

    We complain about the midfield being easily overrun but they don’t get any help from the likes of Pepe who just lets people run past him. He needs to watch Raheem Sterling;]’s videos on a loop

  15. Valentin

    Dissenter,

    I agree that head-coaching a club is part coaching, making the tactical decisions but also part man managing the team.
    By man managing I am not saying pandering to the whim of the players, but adapting the communication style to each players so they deliver their maximum for the team. And if their best is not good enough or their attitude is toxic for the squad then ship them out. The problem is that we are skint and that we will therefore need to be smart and planned well in advanced to get the right “at the time” type of players.

    Linked to the recruitment problem is the fact the squad has no identity. There is not enough players good enough and willing to do the high press. So if Arteta decide to do the high press, out of our attackers only Martinelli, Lacazette are willing to do the hard shift.
    If he decide to defend low block, then he will need a lot of coaching because outside of Torreira and Willock none of our central midfielders are used to track their runners.

    Proof of that haphazard recruitment process is that we spent fortune on attacking talent but did not buy a single talented ready made defenders. Sokratis is a wrestler. David Luiz can’t defend on 1v1. Holding and Chambers are still learning the position. Tierney and Bellerin are converted winger. Mustafi is our best pure defender and that say a lot that nobody rates him.

    He won’t find help in our academy, as it has not produce a single CB or defensive midfielder good enough for Arsenal. The only defensive midfielder of premiership quality coming from the Arsenal academy is Isaac Hayden. Coquelin was brought as a youngsters. Frimpong was never premiership quality. Robbie Burton is not yet ready.

  16. CG

    Spanish Dave

    “”””Arteta has balls aright he’s taken on us and the dickheads in our squad.
    I hope the management backs him and let him get on with the job.””””

    Correct Dave.
    He has passion and love for The Arsenal to take us on.

    Anyway You know how conniving and duplicitous these Spaniards can be.

    They are a strange bunch,

    Even Spaniards don’t like Spaniards ( note the Catalonia Shenanigans)

    Arteta ( He has been Anglicized in the UK – so he is ok) will have to have Eyes in the Back of His Head to watch out for The Spiv and his Box of Tricks.

    Raul needs Arteta to fail in order for him to keep his job.

    If Arteta works his magic immediately- the question will always be asked:

    Why was he not appointed in the first place?
    And why did you want your Clown?
    And why did you want to extend his contract in the summer?
    And why didnt we allow Arteta to spend £200 000 000

    Raul and Arteta will not last in tandem for too long.

    I give it 2 transfer windows maximum.
    This time The Spiv goes.

  17. shaun

    I think most Arsenal fans probably feel the same in that they would bin 3/4 of the first team without blinking an eye . I honestly enjoy watching Martinelli , saka and ESR more than i do watching Ozil Auba and Laca the latter three have reverted to moaning if the ball is not perfect to feet or have a meltdown with a miss placed pass or just can’t be bothered to make the effort to stretch and it’s now just a bit painful seeing xhaka and mustaffi still trying but getting no where ,soc past his best but still they keep playing him

  18. Rambo

    “Anyway You know how conniving and duplicitous these Spaniards can be.They are a strange bunch,Even Spaniards don’t like Spaniards ( note the Catalonia Shenanigans). Arteta ( He has been Anglicized in the UK – so he is ok)”

    Gotta love CG

  19. Malaysian gunner

    The next 5/6 matches will indicate how Arteta will fare. Lose and all will hell will be out.
    He could be the fresh air Arsenal need.
    Hopefully he will improve the defence or make the gunners harder to beat to steady the sbip

  20. Romford Pele

    “The next 5/6 matches will indicate how Arteta will fare.”

    Judging him on that would be harsh and ridiculously unfair considering the run of fixtures we’re on. This is a project. You need to give it time to come to fruition

  21. Dissenter

    Valentin
    I don’t disagree
    It’s just that regardless of all those communication strategies you mentioned, the new young manager will be challenged at some point by senior players.
    Will the club back the novice manager fully when that challenge of his authority happens?
    I ask because the club didn’t back Emery when Otil publicly lashed out at him. That should have been Ozil’s last game, instead they let the economics overrule the manager’s authority.
    They first time Ozil does that sock-kicking tantrum right in front of the manager because he was substituted, the rest of the squad will be waiting to see what happens.

  22. Romford Pele

    Dream, Once we get some confidence up again we’ll pick up points, i’m not worried. We’ll probably finish around midtable I reckon. Need to start the groundwork for next season

  23. Dissenter

    CG
    Good to see that your brain is being fuc*ed up by the invasion of the Spanish conquistadors.
    Director of footballing operations – Spaniard
    Edu – Brazilian
    Head coach – Spaniard
    Assistants to head coach- Spaniards

    You’re in trouble man. You need to run for the hills of Cape Town. Seek shelter very quickly

  24. HighburyLegend

    “He has passion and love for The Arsenal”
    Anyone who read this quote… Then thinking “who the hell they’re talking about ??”

    Henry ?? Vieira ?? Bergkamp ??
    Wrong!! Please try again. lol

  25. Batistuta

    If the need the new guy to be in charge at Everton, why hasn’t he been announced yet? What’s with Arsenal and turning every signing and announcement into an entire circus?

  26. Gentlebris

    ‘Always give people a chance to fail. Everyone will likely have the opportunity to prove themselves to Arteta, and so they should.’

    The man is telling you he would not breathe a word if Arteta starts Ozil, Xhaka, Mustafi and neither should you.

    ‘don’t be surprised to see glimpses of very exciting football well before the 3 years most of you were willing to give Emery to change things up.’

    Nobody proposed giving Emery 3 years to play good football and eventually nobody actually did. Cold feet already?
    You gave Emery barely 3 months before you turned on him, you will do the same with Arteta or you will be rightly accused of double standard, whether that would bother you is a topic for another time.

  27. Dissenter

    Romford
    There won’t be a long term project if Arteta doesn’t get any type of new manager bounce.
    The problem with young inexperienced managers is that they don’t have a well spring of bounce back-ability . When it goes belly up….it’s belly up.
    He has to get results to get players on board.

    We have to remember that this is first gig. In most progressions, you still have a mentor in your initial years of practice. In footballing management, your supposed mentor is probably being lined up to replace you. It’s brutal, I remember SAF told Steve Mclaren they were rivals the moment he was appointed at Boro.

    Arteta needs to get some type of new manger bounce to give himself some breathing room.

  28. Guns of Brixton

    Best part of any rebuild process like this is when u see the dross u hate so much get cleared out 😂😂

    Best part about the early parts of these rebuilds.

    I recall my LFC friends celebrating so hard when the likes of allen and moreno where shipped out.

  29. Dissenter

    Spanish Dave
    I know Brazil is Portuguese, just added that to mount pressure on him since Portuguese some Iberian similarities.
    Over here, we lump every thing into an amorphous Latino/Hispanic grouping.

  30. Romford Pele

    Dissenter, yes to an extent. They’re both intrinsically linked. At the same time, there’s an acknowledgment that things are completely broken at the club and we’re in need for an overhaul. Expecting him to get results and good ones at that in and among the brokenness and unrealistic. You’re setting him up to fail. They’re giving him a 3.5 year deal. and he’s sort assurances that he’ll be backed. Most of these players you allude to are going to be sold, at least they’ll have to be if you expect to see long-term improvement.

  31. guest man aka WW

    Left test,
    I actually think AMN has some real potential. He is quick and direct .Gets to the bye-line
    Obviously he has made howling mistakes,,,,but that is correctable, (unless he is thick).

  32. Moray

    It’s typical of Arsenal’s failed generations to think they have the right to comment on how the club is run. They can all fuck off, Auba included.

    I’m all in for Arteta now. Only slightly put off by the image of Pedro knocking one out while he wrote this post.

    It’s actually a good time for a new manager to come in – He doesn’t have to pander to the supposedly more experienced players: if they don’t play ball or start to cause problems then he can simply offload them.

  33. Romford Pele

    AMN has good physical and technical qualities but he has the concentration levels of a goldfish. Seems to switch off at any given moment. One of the players that needs to be proper;y coached.

  34. Edu me a favour

    “” The next 5/6 matches will indicate how Arteta will fare. Lose and all will hell will be out.””

    Have to disagree- Arsenal is clearly a project now , everything is pointing to the future, Raul said as much. We can’t expect Arteta to come in and rectify our shortcomings in 5/6 games – I’m not really expecting to see any major progress until we move towards the end of the season , especially with our fair weather players.

    If arteta already has his doubters in the squad , then I say get rid of them and sharpish. They clearly want the easy ride and don’t want to be part of the new breed of manager and what that involves. I don’t know who voiced their opinion in the squad but i do know that Not one of our players would get into the city squad right now , so for any of them to turn there noses up at arteta who has helped pep put 12/13 goals past us in the last 4 games , is a fucking joke.

    Can’t wait for Arteta to come in and give the egos the chance to fail AGAIN , because they will absolutely fail , and then get rid of them.

    Really looking forward to some forward thinking innovative football being brought to the club 😀

  35. Romford Pele

    “It’s typical of Arsenal’s failed generations to think they have the right to comment on how the club is run. They can all fuck off, Auba included.”

    Agreed. These guys should have no leverage to say/dictate how they want things run.

  36. Receding Hairline

    We have to see positive signs before the end of the season. It’s all well and good saying he has a three year contract but we will need to see hints here and there that with time something worthwhile will emerge.

    I am cautiously optimistic.

    But make no mistake most of the battles are from within. Some players don’t like this appointment and they will show it. Most of you sided with them last time out. You said they were all coach able. Arteta is coming from a team who play with high intensity, that will not be possible at Arsenal this season or even next because they just don’t have the physical attributes nor desire for it.

    He will need to find some workaround for the meantime. Go out and play with joy has failed with Freddie

  37. Romford Pele

    “We have to see positive signs before the end of the season. It’s all well and good saying he has a three year contract but we will need to see hints here and there that with time something worthwhile will emerge.”

    Of course and that was my first post today. There have to be green shoots. Visible style of play (despite the poor profile of some of our players, improved player performances, better set-up in and out of possession.

  38. Edu me a favour

    “” Arteta needs to get some type of new manger bounce to give himself some breathing room.””

    Do you really think this group of players have ‘new manager bounce ‘ in them

    Players who actually care about the club have the ability to harness some new manger bounce , this group or the large majority of them don’t give 2 fucks about arsenal and they also don’t realise they are part of the problem. Hence some of them voicing their doubts about arteta which is a fucking cheek considering how bad they’ve all
    Been

  39. Moray

    “However, Wenger, 70, who left Arsenal in 2018, said the club needed to be smarter in their recruitment and that it was not necessarily the case that they needed a lengthy period to get back to their best.

    “When I left the club was in a very strong financial position and they bought many players in-between, they have not all worked out,” he said.

    “I believe that it’s not a question of time. The change can be very efficient very quickly, it’s just about the right decision-making and that’s all that it’s about in football, it’s about good players.

    “We speak about the success of Liverpool, of course they have a great manager, but you have to say as well that in the last three-four years, they bought the right players.”

    The brass neck of the guy.

  40. Dissenter

    Highbury
    How many did we get rid of the last time
    The only one sellable was Iwobi, based in the market anywhat.
    The ones that were sent off on loan aren’t pulling up trees in their new assignments.
    Mustafi loves the club. Xhaka loves Arsenal. Ozil loves Arsenal.
    Arsenal is for lovers, don’t you get it. It’s not that easy to get rid of shitty players.

  41. guest man aka WW

    @RP.
    glad you agree…AMN is worth trying to re-coach. He is twice as fast as half the squad…just the focus needs programming!

  42. Romford Pele

    “guest man aka WWDecember 18, 2019 13:23:22”

    I like his physical and technical qualities but his mentality irks me because he plays like he smokes weed 24/7. No urgency to anything he does. Seems spoilt. Compare that to Martinelli. You can coach improved mentality but sometimes it’s about your innate hunger/will to want to get there and i’m doubtful about that with AMN.

  43. Dissenter

    Edu
    A new manager need some breathing s-ace to be able to actually pass on his message without the air of desperation.
    That’s why he needs to get off the a good start. I’m not even implying a winning run, just not to lose so,many games over the holiday and start the new year battling relegation.

    It’s hard to get good GPS reception when you’re in the underground parking lot.

  44. guest man aka WW

    everyone that’s been with arsenal loves arsenal…simple as.
    It is a great club….an institution…..a name that is totally world-wide.
    We treat players extremely well…we have a loyalty package….we make it comfortable for them.
    Ozil will still be here in some capacity till 2100…haha

  45. Marko

    Still need 15 points from 21 matches to avoid relegation. That’s all that matters

    7 points off top 4 and you’re talking relegation. Arsenal fans I swear

  46. guest man aka WW

    @ Romford..
    I hear what you say….the weed thing applies more to PEPE…but maybe theyre sharing the same spliff?
    Well martinelli for me is a sensation.
    the lad is 18, and already regularly scoring. He has that hunger and desire…a bit like the ruthless wrighty in front of goal.

  47. Nelson

    The first thing I expect Arteta to do is established a clear plan for all the players to follow. The system should be much more compact. The defense, midfield and attack should stay closer together. He’ll try to improve the chemistry between the players. That’s Barca’s DNA. It’ll take time to develop the culture of the team. We’ll also need to replace some dead woods. At least, the players won’t be at a loss like under Emery.

  48. Edu me a favour

    Yeh I know what you’re saying dissenter , but I just don’t trust some of this lot to afford him the breathing space. I think we have a lot of hungry youth players that would be more suited and are more coachable. But it’s a dangerous time to be handing the responsibility over to the kids and obviously that wouldn’t be MASSIVE gamble

    I genuinely thought that we would up our level just a tiny bit after emery left – what with all the stories about the players not understanding him and being lost on what they were supposed to be doing – but they’ve had some clear instructions in fluent English from Freddy and they still play like they don’t give a fuck , except when the kids come on and start actually running and closing down (Bar AMN who clearly smokes the sticky icky icky )

  49. Marko

    He’s an adult right? Between calves this handsome that he writes like a really immature dumbass. Earlier he wrote:

    Mr. Arteta aint he delicious?
    That jaw -line: that tan?? CG can see a romance blossoming with that new attractive doctor we have on the bench too.
    Two beauties there together.
    Just hope it dont distract from the job in hand…….
    The soccer.

    Like who would think to write such a stupid thing.

  50. Gentlebris

    I laugh when people judge AMN on his supposed body language, I don’t argue, I just laugh.

    Because I expect any intelligent adult to understand that football is a sport that demands high technique, which means you have to understand as a player how you get out the best from your brain. If you have to act calm and seemingly nonchalant to get your brain firing accurately, then you have to. It does not mean bad attitude or being absent-minded or being high on weed or anything, it’s just doing your job the best way you know how.

  51. David Smith

    Thanks Pedro, you have convinced me over time, this could be a very exciting appointment and one I look forward to.
    Hope the club back him in so far as is realistic for their model, I get the impression they will or he perhaps wouldnt be signing

  52. Romford Pele

    It has nothing to do with AMN’s body language. i think we’re all intelligent enough to know that we act and perceive things in different manners plus the body language is not reflective of what the player may actually be feeling.

    We can only judge objectively. My criticism are about his lack of intensity both on and off the ball. Being slow to react to stuff is nothing to do with body language.

  53. Wasi

    Important thing right now is for the fans to get behind Arteta. He will need time to sort this mess out. We might still play drab football till the end of season. Its going to take a lot of coaching to get the players s playing beautiful football again. We have to support him no matter the results we produce .
    This is a project and it will probably take 3 or more seasons before we can challenge the elite again (considering Arteta is the real deal and recruitment is good in the coming transfer windows).

  54. Romford Pele

    Even though I don’t rate Joe Willock highly i would say his level of application is good in terms of work rate and he has what you’d also perceive to be relaxed body as well.

  55. Ishola70

    Wasi

    “We might still play drab football till the end of season.”

    It’s results at the end of the day.

    The team can play pretty patterns all day long and still get hit by sucker punch goals and lose too many games or draw too many games and he will be questioned simple as that.

    It’s all about results.

  56. Marc

    I’ve just heard some devastating news. Arteta wears a wig and is completely bald – there’s no sauce people Pedro’s deceived us all.

    The end is nigh!

  57. CG

    Marko

    “”””CG can see a romance blossoming with that new attractive doctor we have on the bench too.
    Two beauties there together.
    Just hope it don’t distract from the job in hand…….
    The soccer.Like who would think to write such a stupid thing”””

    Ill have you know Tommy Docherty was sacked by Manchester United for having an affair with the physios wife in the 1970’s

    My point was Mr Arteta is a very handsome young man and our club physio/ doctor is a very attractive young lady.

    They will be working long hours together, staying in hotels, mingling, talking about body parts etc…
    these things can catch you out.

    I should Know.
    You should see my monthly alimony payments.
    Ouch!

  58. Gentlebris

    ‘We can only judge objectively. My criticism are about his lack of intensity both on and off the ball. Being slow to react to stuff is nothing to do with body language.’

    Not just you Romford,

    People have repeatedly accused AMN of nonchalance. I bet you a 22 year old who is on less than £40,000 a week and who plays with monied rogues like Ozil and Auba in same team is not thinking he has arrived yet.

    People say AMN doesn’t care but he does, you don’t have to be like Sok or Mustafi before you help your team.

    Then again, how many players do we have who can take on a man one on one in an attacking situation? AMN can, I think we should begin to see the good in our young guys. Willock is piss poor right now but I’m hoping for him to turn it around. Why? Because he’s a kid, if he had been 27 I might not see it that way.

  59. CG

    Walt

    “”It’s strange we appoint an attractive female doctor and the number of groin injuries have quadrupled””

    Well Observed,

    Page 3 Of Soccer management

    Always Get an ugly physio with big cold hands.

    Never get what we have got. She is far too attractive.

    Players minds will waver.

    I wonder why none of our lot can press properly ( whatever that is)

  60. Rambo

    “It’s strange we appoint an attractive female doctor and the number of groin injuries have quadrupled.”

    What sort of aspersions are you directing towards our good doctor?

    That’s it, I’m calling the FemiNazis

  61. Gentlebris

    ‘It’s strange we appoint an attractive female doctor and the number of groin injuries have quadrupled.’

    Just shut up already Marc.

    They complain about groin injury whereas you would request a scrotum massage had you been in their shoes.

    What is the benefit of playing for a club if you can’t get some special medical service from a beautiful lady doctor in the house?
    I’m sure Emery still comes to say ‘hi’ to her in Spanish English from time to time.

    Not that the lady doctor pays any of them any attention though.

    I hear she goes to bed with a dagger under her pillow, and that she has eyes only for Josh.

    Enough about that anyway, how about that lady you told me you wanna marry, Marc?

  62. Gentlebris

    ‘It’s strange we appoint an attractive female doctor and the number of groin injuries have quadrupled.’

    Just shut up already Marc.

    They complain about groin injury whereas you would request a scrotum massage had you been in their shoes.

    What is the benefit of playing for a club if you can’t get some special medical service from a beautiful lady doctor in the house?
    I’m sure Emery still comes to say ‘hi’ to her in Spanish English from time to time.

    Not that the lady doctor pays any of them any attention though.

    I hear she goes to bed with a dagger under her pillow, and that she has eyes only for Josh.

    Enough about that anyway, how about that lady you told me you wanna marry, Marc?

  63. Victorious

    Just want to see Arsenal play exciting and swashbuckling football again.

    All for Arteta if he could deliver a bit of Wengaball sprinkled with some Pep sauce, would be fun

  64. Batistuta

    Nah, don’t need to have an IQ of a super computer to know or see that AMN plays like he’s on holidays or like he was forced to be out there, it’s an attitude thing which he has cultivated over time, he looks like he’s sleep walking because most of the time he can’t believe he’s actually on the pitch, like his body is there on the pitch but his mind is somewhere in Cuba smoking cigars…. Plus his footballing ability isn’t exactly great, he’s a squad player and he looks like he’d be glad being just that till he retires

  65. Nelson

    You think Pep will let Arteta coach today’s game against Oxford. MC will field a lot of youngsters. It would be a good practice for Arteta. I’ll find out what system Arteta will use.

  66. Gentlebris

    ‘Nah, don’t need to have an IQ of a super computer to know or see that AMN plays like he’s on holidays or like he was forced to be out there, it’s an attitude thing which he has cultivated over time, he looks like he’s sleep walking because most of the time he can’t believe he’s actually on the pitch, like his body is there on the pitch but his mind is somewhere in Cuba smoking cigars…. Plus his footballing ability isn’t exactly great, he’s a squad player and he looks like he’d be glad being just that till he retires’

    All of that attitude and he still managed to get hold of his dream out of millions of kids with such dream? All of that attitude and he was actually promoted from the Arsenal academy to the first team? All of that attitude and three different head coaches who have been in charge trusted him enough to play for them?

    You think you know but you don’t know.

  67. Victorious

    Emery made us played the worse football I’ve ever witnessed as a fan

    A mate actually told me he used our games to cure his sufferings of insomania

    It was painfully bad.

  68. kristoman

    some morons on here where adamant that the reason we are not in top4 is because of emery that this team is good for top 4. Why are we making so many excuses already for arteta. Alot of posters especially marko and hairline where highlighting these facts that emery might be out of its depth but these players are so bad that it will take a miracle for these set of players to get top 4 even with the best coach around but no, the know it all on le grove tag emery a total fraud. So what has change for arteta that he wouldn’t achieve the same target set for emery. Ask yourself would arteta get top 4 with these lots if he started the season with us? If yes you are a moron

  69. Gentlebris

    ‘Just want to see Arsenal play exciting and swashbuckling football again.’

    And get countered with a goal in our net for our troubles?

    The first work to be done with this team is to manufacture an actual defence.

    Wouldn’t it be refreshing to see that after 10 years of active service, we have retired from the noble duty of goal gifting?

  70. CG

    Vic

    “”””A mate actually told me he used our games to cure his sufferings of insomania”””

    I did state that Vic:

    I warned everybody about The Season from Hell and maybe a Decade in the Doldrums too- they didnt want to know.

    Emery and Raul have Killed us.

    Well pleased that Arteta is coming back home.

    But he has the hardest job in club management to Stop The Rot.

  71. Left testicle

    There has got to be a bit of an atmosphere at City with Arteta expected to leave and the rumours surrounding other coaching staff and scouts.

  72. Champagne charlie

    “Ask yourself would arteta get top 4 with these lots if he started the season with us? If yes you are a moron“

    Impossible to say, what’s probable to say is that a competent manager would’ve had us in the top 4 last season… hence us having the requisite quality.

    But alas… there’s no discussion at all from you, it’s ‘agree with my premise you’re a moron’ literally.

    Obviously you’re another with elevated thinking, but you do a grand impression of mong in the shadows. Kudos.

  73. Graham62

    I find it quite amusing that Mr Wenger has advised Arteta to go back and follow the Arsenal “VALUES”.

    Thanks Arsene for your pearls of wisdom.

  74. Dissenter

    Left testcle
    “There has got to be a bit of an atmosphere at City with Arteta expected to leave and the rumours surrounding other coaching staff and scouts.

    Ha ..[sigh]…gooners are really special creartures
    Because one of Pep’s assistant and a youth scout that feeds the academy is leaving the club?

    You people are really hyping this Arteta thing, are’nt ya?

  75. Victorious

    CG

    Yea,obviously you have been vindicated in your strong disapproval of both Mr bland and Raul.. The pair was on a mission to sink us into oblivion

    Arteta has daunting task to stem our worrying tide,he would provide a big improvement on Emery already if he has us playing decent football once again,results will follow swiftly

  76. Joe

    Charlie

    Have to agree with you. Emery should have got us into top 4 last season. That’s where I lost faith in him and knew he was a bottler like wenger

    When we dropped points in our last 4-5 matches and blew top 4. Against Sub standard opposition. as well.

    That’s when I knew emery wasn’t the one for The Arsenal

  77. Graham62

    I believe that a good coach could have got “top 4 with this lot”, both last season and this.

    Oh well, that makes me both a “moron” and a “vile supporter”.

    So be it.

  78. Nelson

    Marc
    You have a point. I read that the club doctor was doing part of the warm-up against City. No wonder the players have forgotten how to play football at the start of the game. Arteta better comes with his team of assistants.

  79. Romford Pele

    Results are the most important thing in football of course. And you’re more likely to achieve these results by playing well. How do you play well? By having a discernible style of play. Whether it’s proactive or reactive it’s important to have similar patterns of play. How often for example have you seen City/Liverpool score the same type of goal? Often. Any why is that? Cos they’re a well drilled outfit. naturally it’ll take time but hopefully by the end of the season we’ll be able to identify repeated patterns which we’ve seen. Too often Emery chopped and changed in the hope for success but it’s hard to achieve consistency of results when you don’t have consistency of performance and personnel.

  80. Romford Pele

    All we needed was one win vs Palace/Brighton at home last season and we’d have CL footie. Emery is a war criminal for that. Was given funds in the summer and has completely bombed it leaving us in a dreadful position.

  81. Victorious

    Good to have you back Joe!

    Was wondering if you stayed away too long because of the outbursts coming your way for throwing all credibility out the window and going to bats for Emery when it became painfully obvious he was a dud and a painful mistake
    The mere fact Arteta can clearly communicate his ideas to the squad is an improvement on Emery already

    Give the guy some support

  82. Marc

    Nelson

    My comment was a daft joke that comes off a mate who knew someone who played semi pro where there was a female doctor. The manager genuinely used to fine players who went to the club doctor claiming a groin injury.

    There’s a huge amount of banter that goes with football – Bris will maybe learn that one day.

  83. Joe

    That haunts me to this day Marc

    I was willing to use that as an excuse to defend emery last season but the way this season started you have to say emery wasn’t the one

    Now I don’t think Arteta is the one either

  84. Marc

    It’ll be interesting to see Bris explain how wrong Arteta is when AMN is sold this summer or next. Of course he might go down the route of Arteta wanted to keep him but was overruled.

  85. China1

    Yes let’s hope arteta brings back the values…. great old values like…. you know… VALUES GUYS CMON WE MUST HAVE SOME VALUES

  86. kristoman

    That is point charlie
    that we bombed at ending of last season tells you the coach was not fit purpose while for me it was the players and not actually emery.

  87. Marc

    Joe

    I don’t remember anyone calling for Emery to be manager prior to his appointment. Some on here including me were prepared to give him some time and judge him on the season. He painfully fucked up the end of the season and failed his primary KPI of getting CL football. He was then given several new players and things went from not great to fucking awful.

    He didn’t work out – it happens, Daniel Levy his praised on here by some on here as some kind of genius because he appointed the Poch – it did take him 12 attempts.

    Arteta is a risk but we’ll see – I’m just waiting for the knee jerk reactions on here that’ll go both ways.

  88. Romford Pele

    Marc, for sure he should’ve scored that pen but that was in Feb. We played Palace and Brighton in May. Crunch time at home and we couldn’t beat either. Poor. To compound that we got slapped in the EL final. Trash. There were even grounds for sacking him there tbh.

  89. Marc

    Romford

    My point was about how fine the margins were between us getting CL football and not. If you look at the Spud’s record after Christmas it shouldn’t have even been in doubt.

  90. kristoman

    It was Valentin or victorious who said that the most important area of the team that need strenghten was shunned for a winger all of le grove was demanding for. He was right after all. Instead buying a proper CDM in tomas partey emery asked for and proper central DF, we went and waste 70m on area that secondary to the team’s need. There i know it would a mountain to achieve top 4

  91. Romford Pele

    Marc, it shouldn’t have but the warning signs were there for us. When we went 22-games unbeaten last season everyone thought it was a new era (despite the fact we didn’t play well in many of those games and in fact should’ve lost a lot). A lot of fans urged caution. Eventually our luck ran out. That’s why it’s important to play well because performances are an indicator of future results. You can play bad and win but it’s not sustainable long-term.

  92. Luteo Guenreira

    The Arteta thing has been talked to death form over a year now but being certain he will fail at this juncture is just as bad as being certain he would succeed twelve months ago. It’s all conjecture at that point anyway. The fact that certain players don’t want him is a good sign if you ask me.

  93. kristoman

    Fans trying hard to rewrite history here FYI we didnt miss top 4 last by a late collapse but rather other top teams almost lost it to us due to their own failure to solidify their top 4 position

  94. Marc

    kristoman

    There was a reasonable argument that we lacked a wide player who could help us break especially in away matches. As for lacking a proper DM – well Emery had Torreira and with the exception of the first half of last season either didn’t play him or played him out of position.

    It’s like your kid asking for another bike for Christmas when he never rides the new one he got last year.

  95. Marc

    “we didnt miss top 4 last by a late collapse but rather other top teams almost lost it to us due to their own failure to solidify their top 4 position”

    That’s very much 6 of one half a dozen on the other.

  96. Edu me a favour

    “” Fans trying hard to rewrite history here FYI we didnt miss top 4 last by a late collapse but rather other top teams almost lost it to us due to their own failure to solidify their top 4 position””

    What ?

    It was in our hands

  97. kristoman

    Torreira was no good at the tail end of last season. In fact we all made an excuse for him that he is tired due to world cup duties.

  98. kristoman

    Pedro
    i remmeber chelsea where 4th with totteham far away in 3rd. Then chelsea hand it to us by losing a lot. That is called giving, we where never in hunt for 4th until the free meal fell on our lap of cause we fcked it up but it was never ours in the first place

  99. Edu me a favour

    “” All of that attitude and he still managed to get hold of his dream out of millions of kids with such dream? All of that attitude and he was actually promoted from the Arsenal academy to the first team? All of that attitude and three different head coaches who have been in charge trusted him enough to play for them?””

    Now Apply this same logic to sayyyy , yaya sanogo and realise that sometimes players find themselves in positions in life that they just shouldn’t be in – then think about how many academy players at arsenal have been talked up and are now nowhere to be seen …..

  100. Edu me a favour

    “” no it was not in our hands they gave it to us and we fcked it up””

    What logic is this ?? Do you apply this same logic to winning the league ? So we only ever won the league because other teams fucked yo and gave it to us ?

  101. Champagne charlie

    Kristoman

    We failed to get 1 win from 6 remaining games when we needed to. That’s always going to land at the feet of the manager, and even more so when you consider the nature of the defeats/performances at hand.

    *9 goals conceded in 3 games, an embarrassment in a European final, failure to score from open play against the 17th place team in the league at home.*

    You claim squad issues and therefore wasn’t expecting anything this season despite yet more spending that was overseen by Emery.

    So we didn’t have the players last season, had a summer of spending via the manager, and still didn’t have the players, but you want to blame….the players because we didn’t recruit a CM?

    Seems a bit eager to dismiss the fault Emery had if you don’t mind me saying. And on the subject of a winger, that was heralded by many as a vital component to unlocking Emeryball. Something we later saw to be foolish at best.