We’re nearly there people, the Arteta stories have moved from…
‘NEGOTIATIONS HIT SENSITIVE PHASE OVER OFFICE FURNISHINGS’
‘VIEIRA IS THE FAVE’
‘WENGER SPOTTED AT COLNEY’
… towards, who will he sign and who will he steal from Manchester City.
It’s being reported that Arteta will pick up £5m p/a on a 3.5 year deal.
There are lots of suggestions about who his potential assistant could be, perhaps Domènec Torrent, Pep’s 57 year ex-assistant from Barca B, Barca, Bayern and City. Or 48-year-old Rodolfo Borrell, a 13 year tenured youth coach from Barca (Pique, Pep, Messi), who worked his magic with Liverpool (Sterling) and later as a Global Tech Director with Manchester City. There’s even a story that we’re stealing one of their top youth scouts, Sam Fagbemi. According to his LinkedIn, he’s a massive Gary V fan, and specifically the Manchester City youth team scout for the South of England. He actually appears to have officially spent 15 months at Arsenal, he’s also listed 6 years prior to that with us, which might have been part-time while he studied.
Here’s how he describes himself (edited to reduce words).
I hold a strong enthusiasm and passion for the industry of sports, part of this passion and drive is identifying talents in relevant sporting areas; and a contribution in terms of development. One area of this contribution involves scouting and recruiting for ages 5-16, in specific areas in London, for football. Many who know me know my passion is scouting and recruitment. I’m an out and out scout! I also follow up on every lead given!
I am always striving to improve my performance and my knowledge, whatever you put into your work, in most cases, is what you get out of it. I aim to put in a 100% at all times.
I have very unique methods of scouting and a strong determination and hunger. I’m blessed to be part of a very good team of experienced staff, which I learn from on a day to day basis.
“THE FUTURE OF ANY BIG CLUB HAPPENS IN THE ACADEMY”.
Sam, any man that uses block capitals to power home a message is a friend of Le Grove. Me, you, Donald Trump… what a team.
Here’s some of the stuff from his Arsenal job he rocked prior to moving up north in 2017.
Key Responsibilities
- Identifying players at the required level through the use of video and numerical analysis.
- Researching identified players in-depth using rigorous methods.
- Building a video scouting capability, liaising with the Chief Scout but also the Player analytics team and the scouts in the field.
- Identifying Players with whom his Club may wish to enter into negotiations with a view to securing their
- Working with PROZONE and/or SPORTSCODE, Microsoft Excel and Sony Vegas and/or Final Cut Pro.
- Working as part of a recruitment department at First Team/Academy Level.
- Leading the storage, maintenance and collection of data regarding Player performance in training and matches.
- Managing and overseeing an online scouting data resource.
- Interfacing with some of the football analysis software vendors contracted by the Club.
- Developing new and insightful initiatives and practices for evaluating Player and team performance.
- Initiating and conducting ad-hoc research projects for the benefit of team and individual performance.
Sam seems to be up to lots of things, he reads like an innovative. Scouts, coaches, has dark arts. I’m sold. This guy definitely drinks oat milk lattes, has an opinion on how you pronounce trequartista, and he reads Mundial.
I think I’d be slightly worried if I were a City fan, not because Arteta is going to snatch the league this year, more because it seems like the staff are making moves before something drastic happens this summer to the main man Pep G.
Back to Arsenal. This move, when it happens, is a huge step forward for the club. They could have taken the easy option that’d placate the ‘safety’ crowd, but they didn’t. Carlo was passed by, Martinez was rightly told where to go, Raul gave up on Nuno, and we dodged anything Kia J could throw at us.
We moved for the hottest young coach in the world. We opted for the moon-shot. Arsenal has positioned itself as a forward thinking football club and they should be applauded for the boldness of this decision.
Rumor has it Arteta will be in dugout for the Everton game this weekend, fitting, wouldn’t you say? One club has opted for the future, the other has anchored itself to the past.
So what should we expect?
Hearts and minds
Wenger (Merson), Emery (Cech) and Freddie (Xhaka) all did it. You have to play the hearts and mind game with the squad to start with, that means the unsuitable big names will likely feature. Go in dick swinging early, the senior players will down tools on you, and you’ll have a miserable start to your career. I have personally made the mistake. I started a big job, disliked the talent and the process, so I tried to make changes early. My intuitions were right, but my early actions made me the enemy of a lot of people. Always give people a chance to fail. Everyone will likely have the opportunity to prove themselves to Arteta, and so they should. This is not a caretaker situation, so hopefully we’ll see performances move up a level, if not, then the action will be taken.
Statement of Intent
I would suspect a huge part of interview process would have centered around the type of football we’re likely to see. The fans want to see excitement, it’s a simple as that, we are not about pragmatism, never will be. Mikel Arteta will have been hired to bring back Wengerball with a modern twist. He will go on the charm offensive with the fans early on and rectify all the wrongs of Unai Emery’s inane jabbering. Expect him to wax lyrical about style and vision when he sits in that first press conference, be assured that he’ll play up his Arsenal DNA, and let’s hope he can articulate a sniff of what the future holds. Maybe he’ll shed a tear? I’d like that.
No one ever cared about Emery, he couldn’t speak to us in English, let alone in authentic terms. Arteta will be different, he’s a trophy winning excaptain with a formula we want. He’ll hopefully have a ‘Mourinho walking through Chelsea in a Spurs tracksuit’ like moment that we can all get behind. Maybe a knuckle duster in his pocket at The Toilet Bowl? Too far?
A shift in style
Freddie is a fan and a solid coach. He wanted to move our football to the next level, but he lacked the resource, time, and backing to do it. Arteta is a different beast. He’s the man that controls the future, players that want to stay will know this. He’ll be confident he can move the club to another level this season. Expect a rough 3 months, but don’t be surprised to see glimpses of very exciting football well before the 3 years most of you were willing to give Emery to change things up. He’ll want to prove to the fans and the board he is a coach, first and foremost. Good coaches make magic happen with whatever tools they are handed. Jurgen Klopp had Liverpool in beast mode early on, though intermittently, with a far worse squad. Nagelsmann saved Hoffenheim from relegation in his first season, then took a team with a sub £40m wage bill to the Champions League with elite coaching. I don’t think it’s unfair to expect to see the makings of a footballing identity early on. Just don’t expect consistency this year.
Focus on Youth
Part of the hearts and minds offensive strategy will be to woo the fans with his approach to youth. I see there being two key initiatives. Firstly, like peak-Game of Thrones, there will be some senior heads that will roll. Not immediately, but rest assured, he’s taking someone big down. The solve for the molten-steel-on-the-head slaying will be bringing a kid into the mixer that we didn’t expect, or one that we didn’t expect because they’ve been average. He needs a poster child for his elite coaching to prove the fans he was worth the hype and to show the best kids in world football that they should give their early careers to us. We need to be the Ajax, Atleti or Dortmund of the Premier League. There will be a huge clear out of senior players this summer, we have to bring in replacements like Brandt, Haaland and Aouar if we’re going to push on next year. You only do that if those names are convinced by the coach.
A brutal summer
There are some great people at the club and there is some real shite. I fully expect the club to use this next 5 months to reshape the way we operate. Expect exits from the backroom team, be sure that there will be a very busy summer of players on the cards, and understand that there will likely be a lot of ‘who the fuck?’ people signing on for Arsenal.
Raul needs to make this work, he’s under pressure. Edu needs to show the fans he’s more than a well dressed, beautifully groomed, elitely (word?) fragranced man. Arsenal need some wins.
We do not have time to fuck around. The next 3 years will be the difference between us being a super club like Liverpool, or falling into complete irrelevance like Spurs in the 90s.
If Arteta is the man to take us forward, the vision is clear, the Arsenal way is about high intensity pressing, attacking football, geared around exciting young players. Now we know that, the technical team has to work their magic and make sure there are no excuses for failure.
This is it. It’s the future we’ve been waiting for. This is the most exciting move we could have made. Back it, because if it works, this really could be the next level Wenger was talking about.
I am absolutely thrilled, I hope you are too.
See you in the comments x
CC, agreed entirely my friend.
Highbury legend
Stop moving the goal posts. Pedro didn’t want Emery moving even a lamp post in the dressing room because it wasn’t his job.
Arteta’s job description as head coach is to manage players provided to him by the technical director. He does not have the authority to tell half the squad to f**k off. He can choose to to play them.
Remember Mustafi is still here after being told he wasn’t in the previous manager’s plans.
Another new dawn.
Arteta has balls aright he’s taken on us and the dickheads in our squad.
I hope the management backs him and let him get on with the job.
As long as we can see a structure to his management we should feel a lot better.
Our off the ball movement is school boy stuff so the coaching should improve that aspect quite quickly.
Good luck to him, Have the board woken up yet!
Don’t make so much noise
“But we also need to be more intelligent. Take a yellow and stop the counter before it forms. Hope Arteta implements some of that.”
Freddie already noted this in his post game interview.
I wonder how all others are saying what’s wrong with this team and all CC is saying is that this squad is good for top 4. Anyways, your opinions are yours so…
Cc
As you say we lack the basic “dark arts”.
I would imagine after coming close in 2018 to the job Arteta would’ve sort assurances on stuff like transfers. players in/out and his demands etc. Klopp when he joined Liverpool came halfway through the season. They reached the final of the EL and CC. They didn’t win anything but anybody who saw the,m and the players playing could see the positive trajectory they were on. As long as we start seeing green shoots of improvement i’ll be happy. It will take a few transfer windows to get it all right. Some players will get a new slate under Arteta for… Read more »
Jamie
“Top quality commentary from Romford Pele this morning ”
I agree
Though you are obviously being sarcastic again as Romford Pele is partly mirroring your sarcastic comments from yesterday.
So what is it jamie ,good quality coaching can improve us or not.
If Arteta can bring some structure to our press and limit the space we afford teams infront of our CBs, particularly when we lose the ball he will be an upgrade on Emery from the get go. The problem for me is our 2 most experienced CBs lack pace and are easily pulled out of formation and the supporting cast (Xhaka/Tor) aren’t offering the required support either, Xhaka particularly is woeful in the CDM role. I expect to see Arteta make us better positionally and quicker in transition in both defensive and offensive situations however I don’t think our current… Read more »
@Dissenter : it was a “manner of speaking”.
Don’t pretend you don’t know what I mean.
Just on the previous comments re: chase top 4 this season against the seasons a write off and we should focus on the future.
The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
Romford Pelé Some very good points. Interesting how the squad will be overhauled. Most over 30 players will go. Can see someone like Sokratis being the fourth CB long term. Getting of the rid of the seniors is the easy part. Players in their prime like Xhaka, Torreira, Lacazette, Bellerín (50/50 on him), Holding, Chambers, Ceballos, Kolasinac, Mustafi are not the ones we should be building around. The majority of them are small space players who can’t cope when the game gets stretched. The fact that someone like Holding (before injury) is considered a key building block shows a misjudgment… Read more »
“Arteta was someone that understood the art of fouling and blocking channels, underrated player when with us imo. We won a few FA cups and were top 4 with him anchoring the side, all despite his advancing years.” Yea CC, I have seen people lambast Arteta’s Arsenal playing career but I always thought he did (almost) a marvelous job for us. Had some really wonderful games for us (and obviously some bad ones). And was a leader on the pitch and off it. He was ultimated limited by his lesser skill set but all in all he did very well… Read more »
Hope reigns eternal at Arsenal.
Banter club extraordinaire
Bring in the sauce. Let’s see how he stacks up against the old spice Saturday morning.. The rest of the season will be interesting times.
Dissenter
The only thing I’ll guarantee you about Saturday is that for the first time in his career Iwobi will find his shooting boots!
@ dissenter and highbury legend. agree
Football management is much more than fancy tactics on a board.
Emery proved he couldn’t communicate any plans onto the pitch. The end product is whats accountable.
Duncan fergusen is a total novice manager, but look at his effect on the pitch.
Can Arteta deliver a spirited performance from the players on the pitch? big question for me..
And would some of our players respond to a tough manager anyway???
ARteta —> ARsenal
ARsene —>ARsenal
🤔
Its all coming together. ..
Or Ford,
‘Some players will get a new slate under Arteta for me as it’s been hard to assess their true level due to mismanagement. Ozil, Xhaka, Mustafi, Luiz, Sokratis, Elneny, Mkhi should all go within the next two windows regardless though.’
…and what if they can’t be moved for obvious reasons, some of these players still have years in their contracts.
Isn’t elite coaching supposed to make them better?
That’s what we we were force fed on legrove while you were away.
Dream, I agree.
Like I said some players I’ll give a chance to see if they can adapt. We might also have to keep some of the English lads for the HG quota but anyone who can’t cope with the intensity demands of the league should go. We need higher octane players who can handle the athletic aspect first.
We have to disengage Arteta the player from Arteta the manager.
Freddie was a good player for us to, that didn’t translate into becoming an effective manager.
I hope he sheds light on what his footballing philosophy is from the introduction press conference. No one knows what Arteta the manager is all about.
The point about Özil is pertinent. We don’t have much creativity in the squad and Ceballos is more of an #8 than a 10. Not what you’d call a primary creator. Maybe in a 433 with more athletic players around him he could thrive because he’s no less athletic than David Silva for example. I think Arteta may like ESR who has a lot of similar qualities to KDB in terms of his intensity both on and off the ball but he’s a good ball carrier and shoots well as well. Arteta famed at City for his work with Sterling,… Read more »
Mystic I think a telling statement is that we’d be a much, much better outfit with 30 year old Arteta at the base of our current midfield. Oddly vilified player during his 5 year spell here for us imo, and wish he’d have joined us from Scotland and skipped Everton. I’m really excited by the potential he brings, and it would be fantastic to see all the possible food come to the fore as a result. Warms your heart to know that the manager of the club appreciates FA cup success, but sees it as par for the course at… Read more »
Dissenter – think they can all go bar maybe Özil and Luiz but all those ones are in their 30s now. Hard to teach an old dog new tricks at that age which is why most coaches and managers like working with younger players who are more receptive to ideas.
“I hope he sheds light on what his footballing philosophy is from the introduction press conference. No one knows what Arteta the manager is all about.“
He’s been on record for about 5 years as to his managerial vision, Pedro has quoted it as many times.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7800981/amp/How-interview-2014-revealed-Mikel-Artetas-vision-managing-Arsenal-years-advance.html
May the tea reading continue about Arteta until Arteta reveals what his footballing philosophy is all about.
I hope Arsenal aren’t waiting for Arteta to sit next to Pep one last time at Oxford city before making the announcement.
Announce the appointment and let the man tell us what he is about.
It will be interesting to see if aubamayang is sold.
If he is, I will be confident arteta is full on with rebuilding our rotting squad.
Keeping him?… maybe he thinks he can get a few seasons of real performance from him…not just the goals.
Sure goals win matches, but only if your defensive isn’t as leaky as a string vest. Our IS.
18 months ago it was all about intensity and pressing and now we are hearing exactly the same today. I said 18 months ago and I will say now, if we do not have high intensity players in the squad then we cant play high intensity football , it’s that simple. In the previous 18 months we have brought in possibly 10 or more players including luiz, Guendouzi, ceballos ,Suarez, lichsteiner, sokratis, tierney, Torreira, pepe , Martinelli. Martinelli is the only player who one would say is a high intensity player. Add those new players to Ozil, Aubameyang and the… Read more »
The reality is that Arteta is not until now a Head Coach but he is by all accounts an OUTSTANDING Coach who has worked under 2 successful managers. Sometimes in life you need to gamble [he who dares wins]. The key difference between Arteta and his predecessors is that he is NOT Club Manager. His responsibilities are confined to running the first team. What is essential is that Arsenal and Arteta put together a BALANCED coaching team. I am all for playing exciting and creative football but equally we need a confident and solid back defensive line. Over last three… Read more »
Could he do something with AMN?
CC
Thanks for the link to the Arsenal.com article
https://www.arsenal.com/news/features/20150325/-my-dream-was-to-play-for-arsenal-
It doesn’t answer the questions to be honest
We need to hear from Arteta the manager what his philosophy is. I don’t think he will be a like-for-like clone of Ped since he’s talked about being influenced by the likes of Poch as well.
I’ll be happy if he’s more pragmatic than invested in flair football.i hope he influences the club to change the types of players we sign. Pepe, for one has been disappointing because he is not interested in putting a tackle in.
Get him off the weed?
“We moved for the hottest young coach in the world.”
Such a cringeworthy line
Yes left
Honestly there’s no senior player I would keep- all the five captains and Mustafi need to be shifted on.
I suspect Arteta will raid Spain for younger players so CG’s head is about to explode.
Arteta has had a weird mix of upbringing. La Masia mixed with his experiences at PSG (pre investment), Rangers, Everton and Arsenal.
When Pep was interested in the City role he said he called Arteta to ask him about what was needed to succeed in the league. Arteta spoke about the importance of winning second balls and transitions so he’ll know what’s needed. He also played with Poch when he was younger so is quite combative and acknowledges the physical aspect. Might marry a mix of them together. We’ll see
Pierre –
“Though you are obviously being sarcastic again as Romford Pele is partly mirroring your sarcastic comments from yesterday.
So what is it jamie ,good quality coaching can improve us or not.”
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What is this mess
“When Pep was interested in the City role he said he called Arteta to ask him about what was needed to succeed in the league.”
This is surely a load of waffle
Pierre, pressing, intensity and positioning are not all mutually exclusive.
Singling out Pep for example, his teams press but are always well positioned too, makes the press easier and lowers the intensity required.
Modern premier league requires some form of press imo.
Sky reporting Arteta yet to make decision on the job….. oh fuck….
WAFFLES!!
Miam!!
“This is surely a load of waffle”
Why? I’ll try find the quote as I was paraphrasing but considering Arteta played in the PL for over w decade it’s not a shock that his countryman would seek advice
Quick reality check for Peter. Pep Guardolia was successful before Arteta. Arteta has no record of shaking up the organisation at a football club. The club have not targeted Arteta to be considered forward thinkers. They’re targeting him to get more out of what is there as money is limited The idea that Everton have hired the past is laughable. His Bayern retained the Bundesliga in 2017; in 2018, he maintained Napoli’s status as the second best team in 2018. So he’s consolidated clubs in competitive leagues. People can point to Napoli’s position this year but this would 1. ignore… Read more »
Rambo, https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/09/20/pep-guardiola-praises-smart-mikel-arteta-admitting-spaniard/amp/
We moved for the hottest young coach in the world.
😔
Romford,
High praise indeed.
Latest quotes though have both Pep and Wenger doubting whether this was a good fit.
Personally I think Arteta is in way over his head and has fvcked up by taking a career-killer job.
Rambo, it’ll be interesting to see. Eventually you have to cut your cloth somewhere and the options aren’t great at the moment so I don’t mind taking it.
Essentially it would’ve been easier for him to stay at City where they have a great team and better chance of success for the short term but he obviously backs himself and it requires balls to take on this role in our mess of a squad so good luck to him.
I think it is really important to define the new manger or coach’s role and especially when it comes to player purchasing .I see a manger as having more influence then a coach when purchasing players so lets hope Arteta is comming as manager and not just first team coach as that maybe part of the issue as well
Sky sports is one of the crappiest places to get information from. The same site that posts betting odds right under the ‘news’. They are probably trying to make money off bets about his soon Arteta is announced.
The Arteta deal is done. Why else would the CEO and contract guy be at his house till 1am on Monday morning?
I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a swinging expedition?
He’s met Josh Kroenke was has since returned back to the states.
Its already begun
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang’s brother hits out at Arsenal’s Mikel Arteta decision
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/pierre-emerick-aubameyangs-brother-hits-21119565
While I’d agree to an extent that good coaching might get us to be a bit more watchable with a discernible style of play, I’d sooner see the back of more than half this squad… We need better and there’s definitely better out there.
For Arteta to be successful ( which i badly pray he is), he’d need to take a hammer to this squad and break if off between January and the summer
It would be a huge surprise if it wasn’t Arteta at this stage. Like Dissenter said our contracts guy was at his house at 1am. All the sources point that way. Even pep still doesn’t want him to go but this opportunity might not come again for him
Auba is going end of the season anyway so I don’t think it makes much difference
Sorry to be that guy but nowhere in that link you posted did it say two time champions league winner Joseph Guardiola called Arteta to ask him what was needed to succeed in England before taking the City job.
Some of you are overselling this.
Buvac was called the brain by Klopp, he is gone now and klopp is getting stronger. An assistant is an assistant.
If Arteta tries to be Pep lite he has failed before he started. He has to be Mikel Arteta, have his own thing, his own way.
I agree with Rambo If Arteta is as good as his Pedro drooling then surely he should have waited for the right job like Brendan waiting till Leicester came calling. Until we clear out half the squad, any new manager is imperiled from the get-go. You have Auba’s brother saying publicly that the manger is ‘too inexperienced like the last guy’. He has his work cut out for him. The club didn’t back Emery when Ozil petulantly abused him in Baku after putting in a lousy performance. Hope they change tack and not let such blatant disrespect ruin a young… Read more »
As for the dark arts stuff I kinda agree we don’t do tactical fouls enough probably don’t know how but fouls aren’t really the issue for me we’ve got plenty of braindead idiots who rack up yellows every season like Granite and Sokratis. The issue for me is not having players capable of tackling. We’re 18th in the league for tackle success that’s shocking we’re high on errors to goals as per usual. These are undeniable facts on individuals. Sure tactics and this and that can have an effect but it won’t matter ultimately if the players aren’t good enough.
Rambo
That’s the thing isn’t it…There’s a lot of them petulant players at the club we need to be rid of and fast
The problem with novice managers is that they quickly lose the dressing room.
Millionaire footballers on long term contracts, especially those who have no national team commitments don’t have that much motivation to listen to listen to a hot sauce manager with no experience.
Hopefully Arteta gets a good bounce, at least let’s go unbeaten over the Christmas period.
Is he gets a bad start from the first 3-5 games, , he may never recover from it.
If you’re going the route of young manager, you’d need the squad to be an average of a certain age, players who’d listen to whatever it is the manager is trying to say/implement and a board ready to quickly dispense of whoever is not part of their plans moving foward… No more lashing out the manager, no more agent leaking stupid stuff to the press, there needs to be a plan from the bottom down especially with regards recruitment
Mate some of the players are part of the problem, especially the bad apples. I’ll back the manager first and foremost now.
Batista,
If we as fans raise our eyebrows at this appointment, why do you expect senior players who have to put their careers on line for managers to lay down and not express their concern?
The entire recruitment needs to change. We need to start getting battlers, players who love the physical aspects of the game like tackling. Pepe is lousy at tackling Auba is lousy at tackling Ozil is lousy at tackling Laca tackles but mostly from a position of losing the ball due to a lousy first touch and trying to recover. Martinelli is good at this but if they keep him around sloth, he too will become lazy. We complain about the midfield being easily overrun but they don’t get any help from the likes of Pepe who just lets people run… Read more »
Dissenter, I agree that head-coaching a club is part coaching, making the tactical decisions but also part man managing the team. By man managing I am not saying pandering to the whim of the players, but adapting the communication style to each players so they deliver their maximum for the team. And if their best is not good enough or their attitude is toxic for the squad then ship them out. The problem is that we are skint and that we will therefore need to be smart and planned well in advanced to get the right “at the time” type… Read more »
Spanish Dave “”””Arteta has balls aright he’s taken on us and the dickheads in our squad. I hope the management backs him and let him get on with the job.”””” Correct Dave. He has passion and love for The Arsenal to take us on. Anyway You know how conniving and duplicitous these Spaniards can be. They are a strange bunch, Even Spaniards don’t like Spaniards ( note the Catalonia Shenanigans) Arteta ( He has been Anglicized in the UK – so he is ok) will have to have Eyes in the Back of His Head to watch out for The… Read more »
I think most Arsenal fans probably feel the same in that they would bin 3/4 of the first team without blinking an eye . I honestly enjoy watching Martinelli , saka and ESR more than i do watching Ozil Auba and Laca the latter three have reverted to moaning if the ball is not perfect to feet or have a meltdown with a miss placed pass or just can’t be bothered to make the effort to stretch and it’s now just a bit painful seeing xhaka and mustaffi still trying but getting no where ,soc past his best but still… Read more »
“Anyway You know how conniving and duplicitous these Spaniards can be.They are a strange bunch,Even Spaniards don’t like Spaniards ( note the Catalonia Shenanigans). Arteta ( He has been Anglicized in the UK – so he is ok)”
Gotta love CG
The next 5/6 matches will indicate how Arteta will fare. Lose and all will hell will be out.
He could be the fresh air Arsenal need.
Hopefully he will improve the defence or make the gunners harder to beat to steady the sbip
“The next 5/6 matches will indicate how Arteta will fare.”
Judging him on that would be harsh and ridiculously unfair considering the run of fixtures we’re on. This is a project. You need to give it time to come to fruition
Valentin I don’t disagree It’s just that regardless of all those communication strategies you mentioned, the new young manager will be challenged at some point by senior players. Will the club back the novice manager fully when that challenge of his authority happens? I ask because the club didn’t back Emery when Otil publicly lashed out at him. That should have been Ozil’s last game, instead they let the economics overrule the manager’s authority. They first time Ozil does that sock-kicking tantrum right in front of the manager because he was substituted, the rest of the squad will be waiting… Read more »
Romford Pelé
Still need 15 points from 21 matches to avoid relegation. That’s all that matters
Dream, Once we get some confidence up again we’ll pick up points, i’m not worried. We’ll probably finish around midtable I reckon. Need to start the groundwork for next season
CG
Good to see that your brain is being fuc*ed up by the invasion of the Spanish conquistadors.
Director of footballing operations – Spaniard
Edu – Brazilian
Head coach – Spaniard
Assistants to head coach- Spaniards
You’re in trouble man. You need to run for the hills of Cape Town. Seek shelter very quickly
“He has passion and love for The Arsenal”
Anyone who read this quote… Then thinking “who the hell they’re talking about ??”
Henry ?? Vieira ?? Bergkamp ??
Wrong!! Please try again. lol
Reading that paragraph from CG and I’m not sure who to be more disappointed at, him or me.
If the need the new guy to be in charge at Everton, why hasn’t he been announced yet? What’s with Arsenal and turning every signing and announcement into an entire circus?
‘Always give people a chance to fail. Everyone will likely have the opportunity to prove themselves to Arteta, and so they should.’ The man is telling you he would not breathe a word if Arteta starts Ozil, Xhaka, Mustafi and neither should you. ‘don’t be surprised to see glimpses of very exciting football well before the 3 years most of you were willing to give Emery to change things up.’ Nobody proposed giving Emery 3 years to play good football and eventually nobody actually did. Cold feet already? You gave Emery barely 3 months before you turned on him, you… Read more »
Nice one CG
Dissenter
Brazil is Portuguese, otherwise spot on.
Romford There won’t be a long term project if Arteta doesn’t get any type of new manager bounce. The problem with young inexperienced managers is that they don’t have a well spring of bounce back-ability . When it goes belly up….it’s belly up. He has to get results to get players on board. We have to remember that this is first gig. In most progressions, you still have a mentor in your initial years of practice. In footballing management, your supposed mentor is probably being lined up to replace you. It’s brutal, I remember SAF told Steve Mclaren they were… Read more »
@Batistuta : please… you can’t fuck with the tradition, you know that.
Best part of any rebuild process like this is when u see the dross u hate so much get cleared out 😂😂
Best part about the early parts of these rebuilds.
I recall my LFC friends celebrating so hard when the likes of allen and moreno where shipped out.
Spanish Dave
I know Brazil is Portuguese, just added that to mount pressure on him since Portuguese some Iberian similarities.
Over here, we lump every thing into an amorphous Latino/Hispanic grouping.
Dissenter, yes to an extent. They’re both intrinsically linked. At the same time, there’s an acknowledgment that things are completely broken at the club and we’re in need for an overhaul. Expecting him to get results and good ones at that in and among the brokenness and unrealistic. You’re setting him up to fail. They’re giving him a 3.5 year deal. and he’s sort assurances that he’ll be backed. Most of these players you allude to are going to be sold, at least they’ll have to be if you expect to see long-term improvement.
Left test,
I actually think AMN has some real potential. He is quick and direct .Gets to the bye-line
Obviously he has made howling mistakes,,,,but that is correctable, (unless he is thick).
It’s typical of Arsenal’s failed generations to think they have the right to comment on how the club is run. They can all fuck off, Auba included.
I’m all in for Arteta now. Only slightly put off by the image of Pedro knocking one out while he wrote this post.
It’s actually a good time for a new manager to come in – He doesn’t have to pander to the supposedly more experienced players: if they don’t play ball or start to cause problems then he can simply offload them.
AMN has good physical and technical qualities but he has the concentration levels of a goldfish. Seems to switch off at any given moment. One of the players that needs to be proper;y coached.
“” The next 5/6 matches will indicate how Arteta will fare. Lose and all will hell will be out.”” Have to disagree- Arsenal is clearly a project now , everything is pointing to the future, Raul said as much. We can’t expect Arteta to come in and rectify our shortcomings in 5/6 games – I’m not really expecting to see any major progress until we move towards the end of the season , especially with our fair weather players. If arteta already has his doubters in the squad , then I say get rid of them and sharpish. They clearly… Read more »
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“It’s typical of Arsenal’s failed generations to think they have the right to comment on how the club is run. They can all fuck off, Auba included.”
Agreed. These guys should have no leverage to say/dictate how they want things run.
Spot on, Edu!
“and then get rid of them. ”
According to Dissenter, this is not gonna happens. lol
We have to see positive signs before the end of the season. It’s all well and good saying he has a three year contract but we will need to see hints here and there that with time something worthwhile will emerge. I am cautiously optimistic. But make no mistake most of the battles are from within. Some players don’t like this appointment and they will show it. Most of you sided with them last time out. You said they were all coach able. Arteta is coming from a team who play with high intensity, that will not be possible at… Read more »
“We have to see positive signs before the end of the season. It’s all well and good saying he has a three year contract but we will need to see hints here and there that with time something worthwhile will emerge.”
Of course and that was my first post today. There have to be green shoots. Visible style of play (despite the poor profile of some of our players, improved player performances, better set-up in and out of possession.
“” Arteta needs to get some type of new manger bounce to give himself some breathing room.””
Do you really think this group of players have ‘new manager bounce ‘ in them
Players who actually care about the club have the ability to harness some new manger bounce , this group or the large majority of them don’t give 2 fucks about arsenal and they also don’t realise they are part of the problem. Hence some of them voicing their doubts about arteta which is a fucking cheek considering how bad they’ve all
Been
“However, Wenger, 70, who left Arsenal in 2018, said the club needed to be smarter in their recruitment and that it was not necessarily the case that they needed a lengthy period to get back to their best. “When I left the club was in a very strong financial position and they bought many players in-between, they have not all worked out,” he said. “I believe that it’s not a question of time. The change can be very efficient very quickly, it’s just about the right decision-making and that’s all that it’s about in football, it’s about good players. “We… Read more »
Highbury
How many did we get rid of the last time
The only one sellable was Iwobi, based in the market anywhat.
The ones that were sent off on loan aren’t pulling up trees in their new assignments.
Mustafi loves the club. Xhaka loves Arsenal. Ozil loves Arsenal.
Arsenal is for lovers, don’t you get it. It’s not that easy to get rid of shitty players.
@RP.
glad you agree…AMN is worth trying to re-coach. He is twice as fast as half the squad…just the focus needs programming!
“guest man aka WWDecember 18, 2019 13:23:22”
I like his physical and technical qualities but his mentality irks me because he plays like he smokes weed 24/7. No urgency to anything he does. Seems spoilt. Compare that to Martinelli. You can coach improved mentality but sometimes it’s about your innate hunger/will to want to get there and i’m doubtful about that with AMN.
Edu
A new manager need some breathing s-ace to be able to actually pass on his message without the air of desperation.
That’s why he needs to get off the a good start. I’m not even implying a winning run, just not to lose so,many games over the holiday and start the new year battling relegation.
It’s hard to get good GPS reception when you’re in the underground parking lot.
everyone that’s been with arsenal loves arsenal…simple as.
It is a great club….an institution…..a name that is totally world-wide.
We treat players extremely well…we have a loyalty package….we make it comfortable for them.
Ozil will still be here in some capacity till 2100…haha
Swoon. That’s all.
Still need 15 points from 21 matches to avoid relegation. That’s all that matters
7 points off top 4 and you’re talking relegation. Arsenal fans I swear
@ Romford..
I hear what you say….the weed thing applies more to PEPE…but maybe theyre sharing the same spliff?
Well martinelli for me is a sensation.
the lad is 18, and already regularly scoring. He has that hunger and desire…a bit like the ruthless wrighty in front of goal.