Arteta signing imminent, here’s what to expect + new scout details (Long Read)

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We’re nearly there people, the Arteta stories have moved from…

‘NEGOTIATIONS HIT SENSITIVE PHASE OVER OFFICE FURNISHINGS’

‘VIEIRA IS THE FAVE’

‘WENGER SPOTTED AT COLNEY’

… towards, who will he sign and who will he steal from Manchester City.

It’s being reported that Arteta will pick up £5m p/a on a 3.5 year deal.

There are lots of suggestions about who his potential assistant could be, perhaps Domènec Torrent, Pep’s 57 year ex-assistant from Barca B, Barca, Bayern and City. Or 48-year-old Rodolfo Borrell, a 13 year tenured youth coach from Barca (Pique, Pep, Messi), who worked his magic with Liverpool (Sterling) and later as a Global Tech Director with Manchester City. There’s even a story that we’re stealing one of their top youth scouts, Sam Fagbemi. According to his LinkedIn, he’s a massive Gary V fan, and specifically the Manchester City youth team scout for the South of England. He actually appears to have officially spent 15 months at Arsenal, he’s also listed 6 years prior to that with us, which might have been part-time while he studied.

Here’s how he describes himself (edited to reduce words).

I hold a strong enthusiasm and passion for the industry of sports, part of this passion and drive is identifying talents in relevant sporting areas; and a contribution in terms of development. One area of this contribution involves scouting and recruiting for ages 5-16, in specific areas in London, for football. Many who know me know my passion is scouting and recruitment. I’m an out and out scout! I also follow up on every lead given!

I am always striving to improve my performance and my knowledge, whatever you put into your work, in most cases, is what you get out of it. I aim to put in a 100% at all times.

I have very unique methods of scouting and a strong determination and hunger. I’m blessed to be part of a very good team of experienced staff, which I learn from on a day to day basis.

“THE FUTURE OF ANY BIG CLUB HAPPENS IN THE ACADEMY”. 

Sam, any man that uses block capitals to power home a message is a friend of Le Grove. Me, you, Donald Trump… what a team.

Here’s some of the stuff from his Arsenal job he rocked prior to moving up north in 2017.

Key Responsibilities

  • Identifying players at the required level through the use of video and numerical analysis.
  • Researching identified players in-depth using rigorous methods.
  • Building a video scouting capability, liaising with the Chief Scout but also the Player analytics team and the scouts in the field.
  • Identifying Players with whom his Club may wish to enter into negotiations with a view to securing their
  • Working with PROZONE and/or SPORTSCODE, Microsoft Excel and Sony Vegas and/or Final Cut Pro.
  • Working as part of a recruitment department at First Team/Academy Level.
  • Leading the storage, maintenance and collection of data regarding Player performance in training and matches.
  • Managing and overseeing an online scouting data resource.
  • Interfacing with some of the football analysis software vendors contracted by the Club.
  • Developing new and insightful initiatives and practices for evaluating Player and team performance.
  • Initiating and conducting ad-hoc research projects for the benefit of team and individual performance.

Sam seems to be up to lots of things, he reads like an innovative. Scouts, coaches, has dark arts. I’m sold. This guy definitely drinks oat milk lattes, has an opinion on how you pronounce trequartista, and he reads Mundial.

I think I’d be slightly worried if I were a City fan, not because Arteta is going to snatch the league this year, more because it seems like the staff are making moves before something drastic happens this summer to the main man Pep G.

Back to Arsenal. This move, when it happens, is a huge step forward for the club. They could have taken the easy option that’d placate the ‘safety’ crowd, but they didn’t. Carlo was passed by, Martinez was rightly told where to go, Raul gave up on Nuno, and we dodged anything Kia J could throw at us.

We moved for the hottest young coach in the world. We opted for the moon-shot. Arsenal has positioned itself as a forward thinking football club and they should be applauded for the boldness of this decision.

Rumor has it Arteta will be in dugout for the Everton game this weekend, fitting, wouldn’t you say? One club has opted for the future, the other has anchored itself to the past.

So what should we expect?

Hearts and minds

Wenger (Merson), Emery (Cech) and Freddie (Xhaka) all did it. You have to play the hearts and mind game with the squad to start with, that means the unsuitable big names will likely feature. Go in dick swinging early, the senior players will down tools on you, and you’ll have a miserable start to your career. I have personally made the mistake. I started a big job, disliked the talent and the process, so I tried to make changes early. My intuitions were right, but my early actions made me the enemy of a lot of people. Always give people a chance to fail. Everyone will likely have the opportunity to prove themselves to Arteta, and so they should. This is not a caretaker situation, so hopefully we’ll see performances move up a level, if not, then the action will be taken.

Statement of Intent

I would suspect a huge part of interview process would have centered around the type of football we’re likely to see. The fans want to see excitement, it’s a simple as that, we are not about pragmatism, never will be. Mikel Arteta will have been hired to bring back Wengerball with a modern twist. He will go on the charm offensive with the fans early on and rectify all the wrongs of Unai Emery’s inane jabbering. Expect him to wax lyrical about style and vision when he sits in that first press conference, be assured that he’ll play up his Arsenal DNA, and let’s hope he can articulate a sniff of what the future holds. Maybe he’ll shed a tear? I’d like that.

No one ever cared about Emery, he couldn’t speak to us in English, let alone in authentic terms. Arteta will be different, he’s a trophy winning excaptain with a formula we want. He’ll hopefully have a ‘Mourinho walking through Chelsea in a Spurs tracksuit’ like moment that we can all get behind. Maybe a knuckle duster in his pocket at The Toilet Bowl? Too far?

A shift in style

Freddie is a fan and a solid coach. He wanted to move our football to the next level, but he lacked the resource, time, and backing to do it. Arteta is a different beast. He’s the man that controls the future, players that want to stay will know this. He’ll be confident he can move the club to another level this season. Expect a rough 3 months, but don’t be surprised to see glimpses of very exciting football well before the 3 years most of you were willing to give Emery to change things up. He’ll want to prove to the fans and the board he is a coach, first and foremost. Good coaches make magic happen with whatever tools they are handed. Jurgen Klopp had Liverpool in beast mode early on, though intermittently, with a far worse squad. Nagelsmann saved Hoffenheim from relegation in his first season, then took a team with a sub £40m wage bill to the Champions League with elite coaching. I don’t think it’s unfair to expect to see the makings of a footballing identity early on. Just don’t expect consistency this year.

Focus on Youth

Part of the hearts and minds offensive strategy will be to woo the fans with his approach to youth. I see there being two key initiatives. Firstly, like peak-Game of Thrones, there will be some senior heads that will roll. Not immediately, but rest assured, he’s taking someone big down. The solve for the molten-steel-on-the-head slaying will be bringing a kid into the mixer that we didn’t expect, or one that we didn’t expect because they’ve been average. He needs a poster child for his elite coaching to prove the fans he was worth the hype and to show the best kids in world football that they should give their early careers to us. We need to be the Ajax, Atleti or Dortmund of the Premier League. There will be a huge clear out of senior players this summer, we have to bring in replacements like Brandt, Haaland and Aouar if we’re going to push on next year. You only do that if those names are convinced by the coach.

A brutal summer

There are some great people at the club and there is some real shite. I fully expect the club to use this next 5 months to reshape the way we operate. Expect exits from the backroom team, be sure that there will be a very busy summer of players on the cards, and understand that there will likely be a lot of ‘who the fuck?’ people signing on for Arsenal.

Raul needs to make this work, he’s under pressure. Edu needs to show the fans he’s more than a well dressed, beautifully groomed, elitely (word?) fragranced man. Arsenal need some wins.

We do not have time to fuck around. The next 3 years will be the difference between us being a super club like Liverpool, or falling into complete irrelevance like Spurs in the 90s.

If Arteta is the man to take us forward, the vision is clear, the Arsenal way is about high intensity pressing, attacking football, geared around exciting young players. Now we know that, the technical team has to work their magic and make sure there are no excuses for failure.

This is it. It’s the future we’ve been waiting for. This is the most exciting move we could have made. Back it, because if it works, this really could be the next level Wenger was talking about.

I am absolutely thrilled, I hope you are too.

See you in the comments x

578 Responses to “Arteta signing imminent, here’s what to expect + new scout details (Long Read)”

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  1. Un na naai

    Hairline

    What does that prove? In Wenger’s last 50 games we won more games, lost fewer, scored more, conceded less, had better possession, created more chances and conceded far fewer shots

    Emery downgrades us across the board
    The stats were circulating for weeks. The man flopped hard
    Worst form for over 40 years after spending £200m in 18 months on a squad that came 5th and 6th the previous two seasons.
    Let that sink in.

  2. Northbanker

    Arteta – it’s his time and despite what other posters on here think the diversion to appoint Emery may well work in our and his favour
    It takes some of the post Wenger pressure off- also our most promising youngsters have more game time now than then

    If we stops the shit show in defence as his first priority and maybe sign an elite CB and DM then we can get fast results

  3. Tee

    From last post

    Receding hairline

    Nothing is silly about my comment. It’s you who is feeling uneasy, reading it.

    You don’t need to get riled up.It’s my opinion.
    Take it or leave it

    Besides you seem uncomfortable whenever Emery goons are mentioned.

  4. Freddie Ljungberg

    “Freddie

    You’re dreaming
    This lot aren’t spending money until the summer.”

    Then you better hope Arteta is the love child of Klopp and Jesus and has the motivational skills of Adolf H.

    Would be typical Arsenal to hire in a rookie manager and tie one hand behind his back. There’s going to be little improvement with these senior players, hope the kids and new signings can step up then.

  5. tenerife gooner

    Pedro,sorry for the Language,one of my favourite quotes.I used it myself.You have to give people a chance to make a Cunt of themselves.

  6. Dissenter

    This Fagbemi [youth scout] is totally unrelated to Arteta. The timing is entirely coincidental. This is Mertesacker head hunting the city youth scout for the south of London, the guy who’s out-scouting us in our neck of the woods. This is a scout tasked with feeding the academy FFS.

    Pedro
    You’re the one who takes pride in knowing the ins and outs of Arsenal.
    You ought to have known better than to think a manager who’s tasked with finding talent aged from 5-16 years is connected with Arteta… unless of course Arteta intends to field 7 year old talent in February 2020.

  7. Chika

    We definitely should try to get a CM and CB in January. Are there interesting loan signings we could consider?

    At this point, it’s in the interest of everyone that Ozil moves on

  8. Chika

    Upamecano is the sort of defender that might interest Arteta. Strong, mobile and impressive ball playing skills. However, he needs to really step up with his defensive actions. Still very young though, so there’s clearly a wide scope for improvement.

  9. Dissenter

    *** inconsistency alert
    Emery was the Spanish serpent for bringing his own physio yet Arteta is innovative for the entry of the academy/youth scout? [this is more of an academy scout by the way]

    Whatever happened to the concept of managers coming in with only their portmanteau?
    Pedro’s beliefs are like jello is seems, ready to be smashed when his man is in.

    *** Aren’t we paying this novice manager TOO MUCH money by the way
    £5 million when this is his first head coach gig?
    Nothing has changed at Arsenal, it seems, same old wasteful wage system.

  10. Freddie Ljungberg

    “He doesn’t need to be klopp to get this lot into top4
    We were 1 point off last year and spent £140m in the summer. We shouldn’t have gone backwards.”

    It looks like we’re maybe about to find out.

    Tierney is injured and has barely played – 30m
    Saliba isn’t our player yet – 26m
    Pepe hasn’t settled yet, also been disrupted by injuries – 72m
    Luiz isn’t exactly pulling up trees is he. – 8m
    Martinelli is very promising but still only 18 – 6m

    Go on about the numbers as much as you want and ignore the reality of the situation.

    Our midfield and defence is still crap.

    We had holes all over the squad after Wenger left, yes, we have spent money but nowhere near enough to fix everything and not one club has ever gotten every single transfer right.

  11. Chika

    Tee, true talk.

    It’s not working at all. I expect Arteta to adopt a high intensity game; something Ozil is incapable of doing.

    There are lots of young dynamic midfielders we should be looking at.

  12. Mcbright is Wright

    Pedro is surely Artetained?Are you? I always get behind whoever is in charge. But if it does’nt workout, we move-on.S&S

  13. JDavey

    Nice Pedro, a bit of positivity! He is a bright, young and driven coach that will bring new and fresh ideas. Too many neggy fans wanting to go for the easy option, when wouldn’t it be a risk to go for a young coach!

  14. HighburyLegend

    That photograph of Mikel “SauceMan” with Arsène is priceless, thanks a lot Pedro.

    #prayforMikel
    #prayforPedro

  15. Wasi

    He needs a poster child for his elite coaching to prove the fans he was worth the hype and to show the best kids in world football that they should give their early careers to us.

    And IMO we have a player to do just that. No, its not Martinelli or Saka or Guendouzi. Its Emile Smith Rowe. Pep loves a free 8 who can dribble , pass , score and defend. And the Free #8s are very important in Pep’s system at city. That is why Kdb is their most important player. That is why Bernardo was their most important player last season (Though he rotate between midfield and right wing). They can do everything. And i think ESR can be moulded to be the next KDB . He’s definitely got the talent , He’s got a good physique, he has been unlucky with injuries this year but it seems like he is finally getting back on track. And lets not forget he steam rolls opponents in the U23s game. He is ready for the step up. He spun Rodri and Gundogan in the same move a few minutes after coming on the way KDB har been doing to Guendouzi the whole night. Smith Rowe is an elite talent and probably our best. Some might say its Martinelli and the argument holds water. Id say both of them. If Arteta does go with a Pep style 3 man midfield it’ll interesting to see who be goes with for the free 8 roles. He might choose Guendouzi on the right side i think. Torreira/Xhaka at the base. Still leaves one spot open and I hope ESR can step up. Willock will also have a shout but i think ESR is the better of the two.
    Also If he can Transform Ozil like Pep did with Silva would be wonderful. Though Its hard to imagine Ozil running around putting tackles, blocking passing lanes and committing tactical fouls lets hope Arteta can bring out the Real player in him.

  16. siddharth14

    Dissenter
    December 18, 2019 09:46:40
    *** Aren’t we paying this novice manager TOO MUCH money by the way
    £5 million when this is his first head coach gig? Nothing has changed at Arsenal, it seems, same old wasteful wage system.
    —————————-

    You forgot to mention 3 and half year deal. Whereas Emery an experienced manager got a 2 year deal. It seems to me that Arsenal have gone in for Arteta after being rejected by our primary and probably second choice target. Arsenal might literally have had no other option. Arteta has used this knowledge to get a very generous deal. He is literally set for life after this.

  17. Chika

    Wasi

    I was also impressed with ESR’s cameo against City. If he stays injury free, he’s gonna improve a lot under Arteta.

    Any idea when Ceballos is set to return?

  18. Romford Pele

    Let’s get this Arteta project underway!

    Will need a lot of patience but confidence by all the stuff eschewed by players and staff alike. Low risk, high reward appointment. Needs to be backed by the board though.

  19. Romford Pele

    This season is a write-off imo but things i’d like to see Arteta establish over the next six months:

    Discernible style of play * (will be hard with some of the players we have not being equipped for modern footie)
    Evidence of coaching (compactness on and off the ball)
    Signs of improvement from individual players (particularly young ones)
    Good positional play

  20. Chika

    Wasi

    Thanks. He has not been exactly brilliant but he should be very useful over the course of the season. Another that might benefit from the Arteta magic. Haha

  21. Romford Pele

    Ha, thanks Chika. So busy these days but post when i can. Naturally get the concerns around Arteta due to his lack of experience but at the same time, outside of Pep/Klopp, don’t think there’s such a thing as sure fire success. Every coach is a risk, experienced or not. We went with experience with Emery and it bombed horrendously for so many reasons. Honestly looking back I don’t see how they ever thought he was a good fit with Arsenal.

    Arteta himself comes with many risks but at the same time, he has a great footballing mind and is heavily respected in footballing circles. Being a coach is different to being the face of the club though so hope he’s up to the challenge. More important though, he needs to be backed. Both by the board and fans who will have to have patience with the project.

  22. Mcbright is Wright

    Success man! We now know we are a scum of a club. Our expectations have now being lowered. You have my support mr mikel

  23. Dream10

    Chika

    Upamecano reminds me of big Vinny Kompany. Fast, strong, authoritative and aggressive, but he’s got errors and red cards on him. Not sure he’ll have the charisma and communication of Kompany to put a large mask over his shortcomings.
    He won’t be overrated by the media because if he ever joins us though.

  24. Chika

    RP

    I totally agree with your take on the Arteta appointment and I’m fully behind the project. Like you, I also hope he gets a strong backing from the board.

    I believe Arsenal fans would accept it’s a rebuild process, however, there must be visible signs of progress after a certain period.

  25. guest man aka WW

    OH DEAR,,,OH DEAR,,,
    Wenger appears on the scene with arteta…..seen at London Colney!!!!
    Are we looking at Wenger Mk 2?
    i sincerely hope not…
    I’m thinking surely not….
    will the advice be just peripheral? I hope so.
    Im always optimistic for the future, but realistic not to hope for a change by using previously failed components.(wenger)
    If arteta is the new manager…..i say good luck to him and to do it “his way”.

  26. Romford Pele

    “I believe Arsenal fans would accept it’s a rebuild process, however, there must be visible signs of progress after a certain period.”

    Of course. There’ll be debates about how long this period should be. But i think we need a lot of changes tbh. We have some bad apples in this squad. Because these players liked Ljungberg and their efforts against Man City were pathetic.

    As i said hopefully we see evidence of a new style of play, improved intensity on and off the ball, compact in how we press/or don’t press. Just can’t be leaving too many gaps on the pitch.

  27. Chika

    Dream10

    Same worries I have with him. There’s a fear he might not be able to outgrow his lapses and errors.

    I’d really like for us to get a CB like Sol to play next to Saliba. Awesome if we managed to get this defender in January.

  28. habesha gooner

    “Rumor has it Arteta will be in dugout for the Everton game this weekend, fitting, wouldn’t you say? One club has opted for the future, the other has anchored itself to the past. ”

    Man pedro’s smugness is as if we have already succeeded. If Ancelotti becomes a better hire and if the results are laid bare in a year or two, Remember this line.

    I don’t know how someone can judge a coach this much without actually watching them coach. Things you hear in the background may be good but they aren’t the end all. Paul Clement was a wonderful assistant to Ancelotti and he tanked at Swansea. I hope to God your judgement is correct and we aren’t victims of this decision.

  29. Romford Pele

    I think ‘coaching’ is the most important thing for me. It’s so evident we’re badly coached and have been for years. From elementary mistakes to spacing and positioning it’s been poor. You have teams with much worse quality than us giving Man City better games because they’re better coached. This can’t go on. Those who aren’t looking to back the new regime. That starts with Ozil.

    Our lack of structure, intensity on and off the ball is beyond mediocre. It’s really amateurish. Need to stress the importance of our compactness with and without the ball. Whether we choose to press or sit off, it needs to be done coherently and as a unit. Get that right and you already see improvements, no matter how incremental. Obviously we need to address a lot of our issues in the transfer market too but on the base surface it’s hard to assess some of our players because of how they’ve been used and the work they’ve had to do due to the lack of athleticism from other players in the squad.

  30. Champagne charlie

    “Also would also like to point out that Emery has done wonders and actually overachieved in almost every club he has been in since he started management. Only blips are Arsenal and Moscow who are institutionally unstable. Psg was per the course.“

    Think numerous will disagree, he didn’t get near the top 2 in Spain with Valencia, and finished 5/6th in the league with a side he won the EL win thrice. No improvement. These things were cited as concern early on and they proved true.

    Emery is a decent manager, but clearly not suited or capable to deliver at the top end of a competitive league. The hope now is Arteta fills the void he left.

  31. Chika

    RP

    “As i said hopefully we see evidence of a new style of play, improved intensity on and off the ball, compact in how we press/or don’t press. Just can’t be leaving too many gaps on the pitch.”

    Very well said!

    There’s a consensus that we need to sign at least a CM and CB in January. Any idea which players you’d consider gettable and of good quality considering it’s the winter window.

  32. Romford Pele

    Tbh Ancelotti was never a good fit for Arsenal. Was available in 2018 when Wenger left and we never interviewed him. Again, available and we haven’t touched him. Got to ask yourself why. One of the most impressive CVs in world football and yet the best he can get is Everton. What does that tell you?

    Have to look closer to home. Look at what the Bayern players said about him, look at what happened at Napoli despite spending money. He’s been on a downward trajectory for about 4 odd years. Very similar to Wenger in that his best days are behind him. Plus he’s in his 60s and has never done a rebuild job so why would we give it to him? Makes absolutely no sense. Whilst experience can defo be a positive factor, i don’t think we should just go for anyone based off their CV. that’s how we made the mistake with Emery. Gotta look at their style of play, what they’ll bring in terms of tactics, player development etc.

  33. Champagne charlie

    “Romford PeleDecember 18, 2019 10:36:28”

    Thisssss!!!!!

    Cannot stress the coaching element enough with this club in the last 5 years, it should be the first topic Arteta tackles and will make a huge difference if done correctly imo.

  34. Romford Pele

    Chika, gonna be hard I think. Teams don’t do as much business in Jan and we blew a lot in the summer so i don’t know.

    CB’s i”d like though (Todibo, Upamecano, Ndicka)
    CM (Soumare, Sangare Guimares)

    These all improve our athletic profile. Whether it’s actually feasible or not remains to be seen.

  35. Ishola70

    The club will become an irrelevance Pedro if you keep ignoring how shit this team have been off the ball for years and years.

    Arteta must bring aspects that were missing from Wenger sides and not just in his last two seasons if he is to truly succeed.

    To state that Arteta will bring just entertainment . It has to be consistent winning entertainment if that what it is to be.

    Many are wary of Wenger mk II but this is what you are peddling at this time.

    So the club doesn’t move on from Wenger after all.

    All it was about was to wait for someone who could maybe emulate him.

    Well if that is the case I hope he emulates Wenger in his first period at Arsenal rather than his second period. His first period had strong players his second period while being more technical than the first period then became weak off the ball.

  36. Romford Pele

    “Discernible style of play.
    that is all we can ask for now by arsenal fans. Wow we’ve really fallen”

    We have fallen but discernible style of play is important because hoistory shows us that most successful teams have a defined method of playing that yields success long-term. Pep/Klopp have always been known for their styles and even when they weren’t successful when they first joined Liverpool and City you already saw signs of improvement straight away that you knew would get better with improved personnel.

    Emery was a liar. Spoke about being protagonists but he was the most cautious-minded manager i’ve seen in my life. A guy who let Arsenal get outshot by every team it played. Defensive set up but still shit defensively and took away any flair we had going forward. What exactly was his plan? What was he doing tactically that was gonna yield success? And he can’t moan about not being backed. We spent money this summer and last.

  37. habesha gooner

    Romford pele it is not even me advocating that we should hire Ancelotti, it is more about pedro’s partisan writing that only acknowledges the benefits of an arteta hire. He could also tank and We should lower our expectations. He has already set the bar too high for me regarding arteta.

  38. Mysticleaves

    “Think numerous will disagree, he didn’t get near the top 2 in Spain with Valencia, and finished 5/6th in the league with a side he won the EL win thrice. No improvement. These things were cited as concern early on and they proved true.”

    CC I think you know better. That he didn’t get near the top 2 doesn’t mean he didn’t overachieve based on his KPIs, working conditions and environment. He’d be alright after us.

    On to the future hope Arteta delivers. Emery has already exposed the flaws in our team. His work should be easier

  39. Romford Pele

    Agreed CC!

    Also would implore people to watch that City Amazon Prime documentary which yields some good background info on Arteta. He was even coaching the Arsenal kids in his retirement year at Arsenal. Obviously will be different being head coach but I don’t think it’s as simple as saying that this guy doesn’t know what he’s doing.

  40. Chika

    Sometimes Arsenal players mark their opponent like football is not a contact sports.

    You find yourself screaming at the TV “get close” “stop moving backwards” “no, no don’t allow him make the cross”

    The manner we conceded the first goal against City was just so dreadful, we made Fernadinho look like Ronaldinho.

  41. Un na naai

    Our midfield and defence is still crap.We had holes all over the squad after Wenger left, yes, we have spent money but nowhere near enough to fix everything and not one club has ever gotten every single transfer right.

    Freddy
    Yet we have internationals all over those positions many of whom have won titles cups and world cups.
    Why is it Brighton and Sheffield United concede less goals with a lower Claire of player? Coaching.
    Pure and simple
    We don’t need to buy a single player to improve this season. We don’t even need to buy a single player to finish in the top four

    What we need is someone to actually coach this team. Something which we have lacked for at least 18 months and as far as defence goes, an awful lot longer.

  42. Nelson

    When Kloop first started, he had Benteke and Sturridge as the forwards, Emre Can, Lucas Leiva, Millner as midfielders and Sakho, Squirtle, Nathaniel Clyne and Alberto Moreno as defenders. It took Kloop more than two years to rebuild the squad. It can be done. I can’t wait to see that we change the culture of the team and replace all those dead woods.

  43. CG

    Wonderful , wonderful , wonderful post……..Many many thanks.
    Outstanding – where PedRo now leads – The Arsenal now follow.

    (We are finally bringing art and class back to The Arsenal.)

    And even better foto.

    Mr. Arteta aint he delicious?
    That jaw -line: that tan??

    CG can see a romance blossoming with that new attractive doctor we have on the bench too.
    Two beauties there together.
    Just hope it dont distract from the job in hand…….
    The soccer.

    Anyway -Lets hope he can out do Wengers 22 years.

    Ill be giving him tips throughout the campaign- to help him survive what will be a torrid first 9 months for him.

    get through that- and he will be fine.

  44. Romford Pele

    Habesha, Yes definitely agree. We shouldn’t expect Arteta to be an immediate success I agree. From the sounds of it he’ll have quite an expertienced backroom staff which should hopefully provide good counsel for him.

    But I do think this is quite a low risk appointment. If he bombs we can get rid easily. I don’t think we can afford to give another high-profile experienced coach with communication issues who aren’t adept in squad building.

  45. Champagne charlie

    Mystic

    No I’ll have to disagree on that one, I had an in depth look way back when and he never got witching 19 or 21 points of the top two. Simeone did that in his first season (after Atletico had finished 7th or 9th) then won the league with his second if I remember.

    If you rattled off the squad he had at Valencia it put his “achievements” into context. It was solid, but not what I’d note for a second as overachieving.

    “On to the future hope Arteta delivers. Emery has already exposed the flaws in our team. His work should be easier”

    Why on earth should Arteta’s job be easier following Emery? That sounds like a trap door being laid if ever there was one.

    We’ve just witnessed the side muddled to its lowest ebb in 40 years. That’ll take some clearing up, and the soft side of management is delicate as fuck with the total absence of confidence. Behave yourself with this easier talk.

  46. Romford Pele

    Don’t think anyone in their right mind expected us to beat City or even get a point but we made it so easy for them which is why it’s annoying. KDB even said Arsenal don’t press as a unit so it’s so easy to exploit the gaps we leave. Every other side is so much more compact off the ball, even the relegation sides. Yes we need players, we all know that but we need to be coached. Anyone who isn’t willing to buy into that should be sold imo.

  47. Un na naai

    I do t agree that the season is a write off
    We are 7 points off top 4 and up against a shaky Chelsea and United.

    It’s probably going to be

    Liverpool
    Leicester
    City
    Spurs in the top 4 this year but it’s not unthinkable that Arteta might have some thing in mind to tighten at the back and get this lot winning games again.

    There we be some serious egg to wipe off certain faces if he does
    Can’t wait. It’s very telling that certain posters are almost willing him to fail

    As I said before, it’s more about being right than being honest with yourselves

  48. Graham62

    I harp back to what Graham Potter has been doing down at Brighton these past few months.

    All the players have bought into his methods and philosophies and clearly enjoy playing for him.

    They have become one of the most attractive teams to watch in the EPL. The new players have integrated well into the system, whilst those that played under Chris Houghton have upped their game considerably.

    At Arsenal, we’ve had four years or more now of players not believing in what they are doing(longer if you include the gradual regression under Wenger).

    If Arteta can get them to understand his, hopefully, positive and proactive methods, I’m still convinced you’ll see an upturn in our fortunes.

  49. Left testicle

    Always good to see your comments RP. You’re certainly one of the 5 captains of Le Grove. 😀
    …………
    I thought we had to vote on it? But you would be one of my five RP, along with Cesc Appeal, Un na naai and Marc – plus one.

  50. HighburyLegend

    The first thing Arteta must do is to privately talk to Mustardi, Ozil, Granité, Luiz and some others…
    “You don’t want to fight for the shirt ? You don’t respect the club and the fans ?
    Then please, feel free to get the fuck out the AFC.”

    The big question is… will he have enough balls to do it ?

  51. Chika

    RP

    “Emery is liar”

    Ouch. Careful with such. His goons are lurking in the shadows. 😂

    ________________________

    Interesting names there. I just hope we make the best of a difficult window.

  52. Romford Pele

    “I do t agree that the season is a write off
    We are 7 points off top 4 and up against a shaky Chelsea and United.”

    We have a lot of teams to climb over and our confidence is in hell. It really isn’t possible tbh. You’d be expecting too many teams to bomb while expecting us to be almost flawless until season end. 99% unlikely. Had our board sacked Emery when they should’ve at least 6 weeks prior then maybe because our fixture list was kinder. We have nightmare fixtures until the end of Jan with a broken squad that needs coaching and new players. Unfair to ask Arteta to change all of that in such a short timeframe.

  53. Romford Pele

    “I harp back to what Graham Potter has been doing down at Brighton these past few months.”

    Agreed. Virtually the same squad that survived relegation by their skin of their teeth playing a better, more efficient brand of football which is yielding good results. Shows the value of coaching.

  54. Champagne charlie

    Romford

    Idk about you mate but ever since Emery was put in place my focus has shifted to the balance in the side given it was “the” thing promised and promised upon arrival.

    I’ve watched football with a defensive eye since then and it’s been a chore to witness us I have to say. Under Wenger the silky football at times would mask it, or make it seem less apparent, but when we got a bit sterile for me it then suddenly sobered my view of the attitude to defending at this club.

    My one slither of comfort comes in the fact we have a lotttt of scope for improvement in that department, so perhaps we can reap the benefits and become relevant again in good time.

  55. Mysticleaves

    “No I’ll have to disagree on that one, I had an in depth look way back when and he never got witching 19 or 21 points of the top two. Simeone did that in his first season (after Atletico had finished 7th or 9th) then won the league with his second if I remember.”

    You were always coming here. Points within top 2 are semantics. Atletico had a plan to challenge for the league. They got in players that matched ambitions of where they were and where they wanted to go, stage by stage. They were buying players of 30m at that time. Even now, Valencia’s record signing might shock you (compared to ATM).

    We can easily say Diego overachieved with ATM and Emery overachieved with Valencia and Sevilla. It doesn’t have to be “either or” situations.

    “Why on earth should Arteta’s job be easier following Emery? That sounds like a trap door being laid if ever there was one.”

    It’s not really a trap door. Like I said earlier we all underestimated the ability of players Wenger left over to play modern football and the work needed to be done both in terms of coaching and culture. Emery exposed a lot of it. He took the fall for it. Ultimately he wasn’t a strong enough character and the fans had no affinity to him.

    That alone makes Arteta’s work easier. He doesn’t really need experiment to know what and what to change. He already knows what he’s up against. I honestly wish him to succeed. Arsenal is my club and my first thoughts are towards its success. However the coach.

  56. Romford Pele

    Well CC Emery spoke about being good defensively but if you look historically his teams have never been. They always concede a huge amount of shots on goals. Considering we never had the players to play that way anyway it was always a bit of a wild one for me.

    Also i don’t really understand the concept that you either have to be a defensive team or an attacking one. The best teams marry both. Liverpool and City are both attacking teams but both have the best defensive records. Why? Liverpool have elite athletes so they can afford to push everyone back and leave Matip/VVD alone with opposition attackers knowing they have the level of athleticism to deal with whatever in transition. City’s game is much more positional based. They station the FBs on the inside to help prevent counters. They also rely a lot on rotational/tactical fouling so they stop a lot of counters before they even take shape. Not to mention they all hunt aggressively the moment the ball turns over. So they all have defensive strategies. What is ours? We need both. We need better athletes at the back. Sokratis is our quickest CB. That tells you all you need to know. But we also need to be more intelligent. Take a yellow and stop the counter before it forms. Hope Arteta implements some of that.

  57. Dissenter

    Arteta is going to have budding problems like any new manager, that’s obvious.’

    Some of those problems won’t be became of a shitty squad or uncommitted player, some of these problems will also be because of missteps due to his lack of experience.

    We have to give him time not just because we don’t have the right players but also because he has to garner managerial experience on the job.

    Hopefully he identifies leaders in the squad to help him because he’s going nowhere until he wins over the leaders. One way to assess him will be how fast it takes to get Ozil trying to press properly when we lose the ball.

  58. Romford Pele

    Mad thing is I still think we would’ve won most of our home games under Wenger because we had better combinations under him. Away from home it would’ve been more of the same though. I don’t get why Emery was so reactive in home games. It was crazy annoying.

  59. Champagne charlie

    “We can easily say Diego overachieved with ATM and Emery overachieved with Valencia and Sevilla. It doesn’t have to be “either or” situations.“

    If that’s what you want to claim then be my guest, it’s not how I see it. That much is based on the relative quality of the squad’s, and you don’t seem aware of the calibre of player Valencia has at that time. Atletico weren’t as gifted that end, hence my view.

    “Like I said earlier we all underestimated the ability of players Wenger left over to play modern football and the work needed to be done both in terms of coaching and culture”

    This is a real fluff statement, the players were good enough for top 4, which would’ve been step one of the new era, but it was horribly managed at the business end which since led a sect to claim poverty of squad.

    If we had appointed a more competent manager we’d have seen the improvements we all crave, we’d have more than likely made top 4, and we’d have preened the squad in the summer to match the elevated ambitions. Little to no chat of poverty players. Now? Now apparently we’re 12 players shy of a top 4 side, imagine that.

  60. Romford Pele

    Ozil won’t press. He’s finished. Gotta go. All the unathletic players have to go. Need more higher intensity players both on and off the ball. If you aren’t willing to play at that intensity you shouldn’t play.

  61. Cesc Appeal

    Certainly there needs to be a discernible style of play before the end of the season.

    But again, it depends on what he wants to do because this squad is so limited. You cannot field 11 players who all fit a system. There will always be 2 or more who break it.

    If Arteta, as rumours suggest, really is someone who demands a massive amount of work from his players then he’s pretty fucked already. At least before the club make massive squad changes.

    Aubameyang seems like he’s gone…shame but need to make sure we get good money for him.

  62. Mysticleaves

    “I do t agree that the season is a write off
    We are 7 points off top 4 and up against a shaky Chelsea and United.”

    There in lies the problem. People still think we should concentrate on making top 4 this season. It will be more of the season. IMO that shouldn’t be our target. We should build towards the future with people that can buy into Arteta and the new thing he wants to do, just like Graham said.

    A lot of shedding need to be done January and summer. It would be silly to get hopes high at this point

  63. Romford Pele

    “Aubameyang seems like he’s gone…shame but need to make sure we get good money for him.”

    Unless we get CL he was always like;ly to leave anyway. If we get £60m it’s good business. Need to use the money we get from player sales to invest in athletic types who fit the modern profile and improve the squad.

  64. Cesc Appeal

    ‘Ozil won’t press. He’s finished. Gotta go. All the unathletic players have to go. Need more higher intensity players both on and off the ball. If you aren’t willing to play at that intensity you shouldn’t play.’

    100%

  65. Dissenter

    ‘He will have to deal with the fact he has no experience at that level’: Arsene Wenger warns Mikel Arteta that he will need support at Arsenal as his former player prepares to take over as boss
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7804941/Arsene-Wenger-says-Mikel-Arteta-Arsenal-manager.html

    Wenger staying the obvious.
    Pep is no longer the mentor, he’s now competition so all these tips are gone now.
    Senior players can smell bull shit when it comes from a novice manager.
    Let’s see if ‘good coaching ‘can undo ingrained bad habits or lack of athleticism in certain players.

  66. HighburyLegend

    The first thing SauceMan must do is to privately talk to Mustardi, Ozil, Granité, Luiz and some others…
    “You don’t want to fight for the shirt ? You don’t respect the club and the fans ?
    Then please, feel free to get the fuck out the AFC.”

    The big question is… will he have enough balls to do it ?

  67. Romford Pele

    “There in lies the problem. People still think we should concentrate on making top 4 this season. It will be more of the season. IMO that shouldn’t be our target. We should build towards the future with people that can buy into Arteta and the new thing he wants to do, just like Graham said.”

    Agreed

  68. Champagne charlie

    Romford

    Totally agree, I did a dive into Emery’s previous roles myself to learn a bit more about him as I was really only up to speed with the buzz pieces being released around his inception. It wasn’t the best reading lol and the rest is history.

    Arteta was someone that understood the art of fouling and blocking channels, underrated player when with us imo. We won a few FA cups and were top 4 with him anchoring the side, all despite his advancing years.

    Have a level of confidence that he will transmit this view of the game onto his players, namely Torreira, Matteo, Xhaka, Pepe, Auba who often can be dribbled past with consummate ease in the first phase. Pepe vs Man City for that first goal still gets me foaming at the mouth. Those guys should be making fouls, the defenders should be cleaning up, in a simplistic way.

  69. RGG

    Hope Arteta doesnt allow players to fail too much or we might get relegated!

    Understand the point though. He has no presence and no experience so he’s going to have to prove himself to the players in order to get any respect whatsoever. All this on the backdrop of the teams worst run for most of our lifetimes.

    Wonder how he will play under him. How he will address our defensive problems….how he will address players attitude problems…..all you can do is wonder since he has never managed a football team at any age or any level in his fucking life.

  70. Dissenter

    Highbury legend
    Stop moving the goal posts. Pedro didn’t want Emery moving even a lamp post in the dressing room because it wasn’t his job.
    Arteta’s job description as head coach is to manage players provided to him by the technical director. He does not have the authority to tell half the squad to f**k off. He can choose to to play them.
    Remember Mustafi is still here after being told he wasn’t in the previous manager’s plans.

  71. Spanishdave

    Another new dawn.
    Arteta has balls aright he’s taken on us and the dickheads in our squad.
    I hope the management backs him and let him get on with the job.
    As long as we can see a structure to his management we should feel a lot better.
    Our off the ball movement is school boy stuff so the coaching should improve that aspect quite quickly.
    Good luck to him, Have the board woken up yet!
    Don’t make so much noise

  72. Mysticleaves

    “But we also need to be more intelligent. Take a yellow and stop the counter before it forms. Hope Arteta implements some of that.”

    Freddie already noted this in his post game interview.

    I wonder how all others are saying what’s wrong with this team and all CC is saying is that this squad is good for top 4. Anyways, your opinions are yours so…

  73. Romford Pele

    I would imagine after coming close in 2018 to the job Arteta would’ve sort assurances on stuff like transfers. players in/out and his demands etc. Klopp when he joined Liverpool came halfway through the season. They reached the final of the EL and CC. They didn’t win anything but anybody who saw the,m and the players playing could see the positive trajectory they were on. As long as we start seeing green shoots of improvement i’ll be happy. It will take a few transfer windows to get it all right.

    Some players will get a new slate under Arteta for me as it’s been hard to assess their true level due to mismanagement. Ozil, Xhaka, Mustafi, Luiz, Sokratis, Elneny, Mkhi should all go within the next two windows regardless though.

  74. Pierre

    Jamie
    “Top quality commentary from Romford Pele this morning ”

    I agree

    Though you are obviously being sarcastic again as Romford Pele is partly mirroring your sarcastic comments from yesterday.

    So what is it jamie ,good quality coaching can improve us or not.

  75. Unai

    If Arteta can bring some structure to our press and limit the space we afford teams infront of our CBs, particularly when we lose the ball he will be an upgrade on Emery from the get go.

    The problem for me is our 2 most experienced CBs lack pace and are easily pulled out of formation and the supporting cast (Xhaka/Tor) aren’t offering the required support either, Xhaka particularly is woeful in the CDM role.

    I expect to see Arteta make us better positionally and quicker in transition in both defensive and offensive situations however I don’t think our current squad are good enough to make real strides forward.

    Again, for the rest of the season hes going to be stuck with Ozil as our creative outlet and as KDB showed, hes simply not good enough for our needs.

    If we don’t back him and find buyers for our problem players I fear only marginal improvements can be made.

  76. Marc

    Just on the previous comments re: chase top 4 this season against the seasons a write off and we should focus on the future.

    The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

  77. Dream10

    Romford Pelé

    Some very good points.

    Interesting how the squad will be overhauled. Most over 30 players will go. Can see someone like Sokratis being the fourth CB long term. Getting of the rid of the seniors is the easy part.

    Players in their prime like Xhaka, Torreira, Lacazette, Bellerín (50/50 on him), Holding, Chambers, Ceballos, Kolasinac, Mustafi are not the ones we should be building around. The majority of them are small space players who can’t cope when the game gets stretched. The fact that someone like Holding (before injury) is considered a key building block shows a misjudgment in recruitment.

  78. Mysticleaves

    “Arteta was someone that understood the art of fouling and blocking channels, underrated player when with us imo. We won a few FA cups and were top 4 with him anchoring the side, all despite his advancing years.”

    Yea CC, I have seen people lambast Arteta’s Arsenal playing career but I always thought he did (almost) a marvelous job for us. Had some really wonderful games for us (and obviously some bad ones). And was a leader on the pitch and off it. He was ultimated limited by his lesser skill set but all in all he did very well for us

  79. Dissenter

    Hope reigns eternal at Arsenal.
    Banter club extraordinaire
    Bring in the sauce. Let’s see how he stacks up against the old spice Saturday morning.. The rest of the season will be interesting times.

  80. guest man aka WW

    @ dissenter and highbury legend. agree
    Football management is much more than fancy tactics on a board.
    Emery proved he couldn’t communicate any plans onto the pitch. The end product is whats accountable.
    Duncan fergusen is a total novice manager, but look at his effect on the pitch.
    Can Arteta deliver a spirited performance from the players on the pitch? big question for me..
    And would some of our players respond to a tough manager anyway???

  81. Dissenter

    Or Ford,
    ‘Some players will get a new slate under Arteta for me as it’s been hard to assess their true level due to mismanagement. Ozil, Xhaka, Mustafi, Luiz, Sokratis, Elneny, Mkhi should all go within the next two windows regardless though.’

    …and what if they can’t be moved for obvious reasons, some of these players still have years in their contracts.
    Isn’t elite coaching supposed to make them better?
    That’s what we we were force fed on legrove while you were away.

  82. Romford Pele

    Dream, I agree.

    Like I said some players I’ll give a chance to see if they can adapt. We might also have to keep some of the English lads for the HG quota but anyone who can’t cope with the intensity demands of the league should go. We need higher octane players who can handle the athletic aspect first.

  83. Dissenter

    We have to disengage Arteta the player from Arteta the manager.
    Freddie was a good player for us to, that didn’t translate into becoming an effective manager.
    I hope he sheds light on what his footballing philosophy is from the introduction press conference. No one knows what Arteta the manager is all about.

  84. Romford Pele

    The point about Özil is pertinent. We don’t have much creativity in the squad and Ceballos is more of an #8 than a 10. Not what you’d call a primary creator. Maybe in a 433 with more athletic players around him he could thrive because he’s no less athletic than David Silva for example.

    I think Arteta may like ESR who has a lot of similar qualities to KDB in terms of his intensity both on and off the ball but he’s a good ball carrier and shoots well as well.

    Arteta famed at City for his work with Sterling, Sane, Delph and Jesus so interesting to see if he takes a liking to any of our young players

  85. Champagne charlie

    Mystic

    I think a telling statement is that we’d be a much, much better outfit with 30 year old Arteta at the base of our current midfield.

    Oddly vilified player during his 5 year spell here for us imo, and wish he’d have joined us from Scotland and skipped Everton. I’m really excited by the potential he brings, and it would be fantastic to see all the possible food come to the fore as a result.

    Warms your heart to know that the manager of the club appreciates FA cup success, but sees it as par for the course at Arsenal and noted that league titles are where we belong. Immediate bar raised, and hoping that his drive to achieve that lights a fire under relevant influential fortunes around the club.

  86. Romford Pele

    Dissenter – think they can all go bar maybe Özil and Luiz but all those ones are in their 30s now. Hard to teach an old dog new tricks at that age which is why most coaches and managers like working with younger players who are more receptive to ideas.

  87. Dissenter

    May the tea reading continue about Arteta until Arteta reveals what his footballing philosophy is all about.
    I hope Arsenal aren’t waiting for Arteta to sit next to Pep one last time at Oxford city before making the announcement.
    Announce the appointment and let the man tell us what he is about.

  88. guest man aka WW

    It will be interesting to see if aubamayang is sold.
    If he is, I will be confident arteta is full on with rebuilding our rotting squad.
    Keeping him?… maybe he thinks he can get a few seasons of real performance from him…not just the goals.
    Sure goals win matches, but only if your defensive isn’t as leaky as a string vest. Our IS.

  89. Pierre

    18 months ago it was all about intensity and pressing and now we are hearing exactly the same today.

    I said 18 months ago and I will say now, if we do not have high intensity players in the squad then we cant play high intensity football , it’s that simple.

    In the previous 18 months we have brought in possibly 10 or more players including luiz, Guendouzi, ceballos ,Suarez, lichsteiner, sokratis, tierney, Torreira, pepe , Martinelli.

    Martinelli is the only player who one would say is a high intensity player.

    Add those new players to Ozil, Aubameyang and the rest and one can see why high intensity cant work .

    We have wasted 18 months due to bad planning.
    First, the Ozil contract making him unsellable and then employing a manager who never wanted to work with him..bad planning.

    Second, we have brought in so many players who were not suited to Emery’s style of play…bad planning.

    Now, It has to be all about player positioning on and off the ball which pep is a master at , so let’s hope arteta has learnt from the master. .

    I’m confident that Arteta can turn it round.

  90. Emiratesstroller

    The reality is that Arteta is not until now a Head Coach but he is by all accounts an OUTSTANDING Coach who has worked under 2 successful managers.

    Sometimes in life you need to gamble [he who dares wins]. The key difference
    between Arteta and his predecessors is that he is NOT Club Manager. His responsibilities are confined to running the first team.

    What is essential is that Arsenal and Arteta put together a BALANCED coaching team. I am all for playing exciting and creative football but equally
    we need a confident and solid back defensive line.

    Over last three seasons our defence leaks like a sieve and that has impacted on the overall performance of team. The football played this season in particular has been garbage and as I have suggested many times before there
    has not been a single game played in EPL which we deserved to win.

    The club needs to employ at least two to three additional coaches and at least
    one of these needs to be charged with focussing on the defensive side of the
    team. Playing gungho or brittle football is not going to solve our problems.

    There are reports that Arteta may bring with him some youth scouts from Man City. That would not surprise me in view of reports I received over last
    three years that our Academy Programme was not fit for purpose and well below the standards of both Chelsea and Spurs.

    One final point those who criticise the club for employing Arteta at age of 37
    on basis of lack of experience should take a look at trends in other walks of
    life.Many leading Independent Schools appoint former Deputy Heads aged
    37-39 to be their next Heads and it is not uncommon to recruit people in
    City or Industry with similar background or age grouping to get promoted
    at that level.

    Key to success is the overall quality of the management and playing personnel at the club. At the moment we know that there needs to be significant changes
    in both cases.

  91. Dissenter

    CC
    Thanks for the link to the Arsenal.com article
    https://www.arsenal.com/news/features/20150325/-my-dream-was-to-play-for-arsenal-

    It doesn’t answer the questions to be honest
    We need to hear from Arteta the manager what his philosophy is. I don’t think he will be a like-for-like clone of Ped since he’s talked about being influenced by the likes of Poch as well.
    I’ll be happy if he’s more pragmatic than invested in flair football.i hope he influences the club to change the types of players we sign. Pepe, for one has been disappointing because he is not interested in putting a tackle in.

  92. Dissenter

    Honestly there’s no senior player I would keep- all the five captains and Mustafi need to be shifted on.
    I suspect Arteta will raid Spain for younger players so CG’s head is about to explode.

  93. Romford Pele

    Arteta has had a weird mix of upbringing. La Masia mixed with his experiences at PSG (pre investment), Rangers, Everton and Arsenal.

    When Pep was interested in the City role he said he called Arteta to ask him about what was needed to succeed in the league. Arteta spoke about the importance of winning second balls and transitions so he’ll know what’s needed. He also played with Poch when he was younger so is quite combative and acknowledges the physical aspect. Might marry a mix of them together. We’ll see

  94. Jamie

    Pierre –

    “Though you are obviously being sarcastic again as Romford Pele is partly mirroring your sarcastic comments from yesterday.

    So what is it jamie ,good quality coaching can improve us or not.”

    What is this mess

  95. Rambo

    “When Pep was interested in the City role he said he called Arteta to ask him about what was needed to succeed in the league.”

    This is surely a load of waffle

  96. Unai

    Pierre, pressing, intensity and positioning are not all mutually exclusive.

    Singling out Pep for example, his teams press but are always well positioned too, makes the press easier and lowers the intensity required.

    Modern premier league requires some form of press imo.

  97. Romford Pele

    “This is surely a load of waffle”

    Why? I’ll try find the quote as I was paraphrasing but considering Arteta played in the PL for over w decade it’s not a shock that his countryman would seek advice

  98. Alan

    Quick reality check for Peter.

    Pep Guardolia was successful before Arteta.
    Arteta has no record of shaking up the organisation at a football club.
    The club have not targeted Arteta to be considered forward thinkers. They’re targeting him to get more out of what is there as money is limited
    The idea that Everton have hired the past is laughable. His Bayern retained the Bundesliga in 2017; in 2018, he maintained Napoli’s status as the second best team in 2018. So he’s consolidated clubs in competitive leagues. People can point to Napoli’s position this year but this would 1. ignore the presidential interference on that squad and 2. ignore that Arteta’s City have totally failed to cope with the injuries to their team. Not exactly great coaching on show there.