You gotta love Arsenal.
Vinnai: ‘Yoooo, where shall we meet?’
Arteta: ‘Come to mine, but please, be discreet’
For fuck’s sake, Vinny. What are you playing at? You look like you’ve just performed a tactical chunder after Jaeger Bomb number 6 – the concerned look of a man worried he’s just soiled the tyre of a local gangster.
There are conspiracy theories doing the rounds that the above etiquette was so outrageously amateur, it might have been a ploy to flush out Pochettino.
Don’t be ridiculous. This is just a mistake. Top execs never want to be perceived as sloppy.
Also, let’s square this noise with Poch. The man wasted the last two years of his Spurs career so he could be the first manager in the new stadium. Do we really think that this summer, when he can freely move, he’s going to turn down City, Bayern and PSG to pick up our shit show for half his market value? I very much doubt it.
… but, back to the main story. All the winds are blowing in the direction of Arteta. He had Huss and Vinnai over to his house. I hear he laid on homemade sangria to set the tone… left Shakespeare, Orwell, and Amis on the coffee table to denote the sophistication of his British prose, and he had the Gervais series of The Office running in the background as a subtle dig at some of the goings-on of Unai Emery. The man gets it, he truly does, he even rocked a Savile Row 3 piece, the boy knows what the fans want. Taking the meeting in a home location as well, stunning, the man clearly rolling hard on the 3 free articles a month on HBR, Mikel, may I suggest Team of Rivals; Doris Kearns, a leadership classic, it blew my fucking mind. What a man Big Abe was, could he organise a back four on a cold night in Stoke, no doubt, no doubt.
This appears to be the 2nd or 3rd round of interviews according to reports. We are shifting into 5th gear heading into the final straight, Carlo Ancelloti has just swerved off the road into an Everton shaped puddle, this could be the real deal.
Never underestimate a gigantic fuck up, but this time, it looks like we could see Mikel Arteta at The Arsenal.
Rumours have it that City are upset about how Arsenal conducted themselves, so we’ll be paying out a fee to release the Spaniard, but they’re going to play ball. I would guess there might also be some conversations about when the start date needs to be as well. Does he step into the flames considering the next two weeks worth of fixtures? Or do the club start him in the new year? My guess, the sooner they can get him into the club, the better. We’re a complete mess.
I also suspect he’ll fancy his chances at making the top 4 this season.
This move is absolutely huge for Arsenal. It’d be a step in the right direction. We’re at a low ebb as a club, we’re not going to be able to buy our way out this summer, our only chance of a bright future is to rely on a coach that can develop our exciting young players and see out the senior dross in a Game of Thrones blood bath.
If Arteta signs, which I hope he does, he basically has a 7 month preseason (similar to Klopp). He’ll have to survey the wreckage of what he’s inherited, begin to implement a vision, and partner with the powers that be on what the rebuild will look like.
The OUT list:
- Mustafi
- Sokratis
- Luiz
- Ozil
- Auba
All the above players are in the final year of their deal this summer and all bar Mustafi will be in their 30s by next summer. That makes them easier to move on, see Koscielny’s shit-fit last summer for confirmation that older men worry they are one injury away from having their future value halved. I would also suspect we’ll see exits for Xhaka (shite) and Lacazette (2 years left on deal). There could be £150m in fees up for grabs and £1m a week in wages.
With all that in mind, it is absolutely essential Edu and Cagigao know exactly what they are recruiting for. It’s also important they know the sort of staff they should be building around the new coach.
Mikel Arteta needs to be the real deal. We’ve had the fall guy post-Wenger in Emery. Freddie doesn’t really count. We’ve pushed all our chips onto someone that we hope embodies everything we want out of the game. Possession based attacking football of the future. This could be incredibly exciting if it works out.
The great news is the fans have been primed for the job Arteta has to do. There are no illusions about how hard things are going to be. It’s going to take some time, we’re going to see some bad results, we’re not going to have a title-winning side by March. I’m ok with that because at least we’ll be safe in the knowledge we’re building towards something exciting. No more bums at Arsenal, no more frauds that don’t love the club, it’s all about building a modern superclub with a young, innovative coach.
I think the Bundesliga is a great place to look when it comes to up and coming coaching trends. Klopp was my hipster favourite before Thomas Tuchel, now he’s blowing shit up at Liverpool. The top two teams in Germany are RB Leipzig, who have a sub-35 Nagelsmann at the wheel, and Gladbach, who hired in my RB Salzburg fave, Marco Rose. Both managers, total unknowns 3 years ago, now toppling the mighty Bayern. RB doing it with a squad with an average age of sub 24.
Hiring in Carlo would have been a disaster, the game has passed him by. You need modern thinkers that can see football from a different viewpoint, not Galactico relics. Arsenal needs a coach that work effectively with technology, scientists and analysts to gain a critical edge over their opponents. People that don’t subscribe to old fashioned notions, like ‘making more tackles wins you games.’ The sort of talent that’s moist at the concept of cognition in football. Someone that really pisses off Paul Merson and Matt Le Tissier.
Arteta loves the club.
Ahh man, Arteta loves Arsenal, watch this video. https://t.co/wrII14HU6j
— Le Grove (@LeGrove) December 16, 2019
He understands the culture. He’ll know all the things that are right and he’ll have an idea on how to fix those that are wrong. One thing you’ll never be able to accuse him of is doing things that work just for him. Emery chasing Europa League instead of top 4? Felt like he was doing that for the record books. I’m hoping we have a manager that has the right amount of Arsenal DNA. Remember, he took a pay cut to join and won trophies with us. He cried because he loves us.
Look at that video again, right now.
You back… all welled-up? Wonderful.
As for the players leaking their concerns to The Mirror (supposedly). Fuck em’ if they are real. Pep G took over at Barcelona and shipped out the problem children in his first major job at 38 years old. He told Eto’o, Deco and Ronaldinho to leave, then he built a team for the ages around Messi, utilising exciting young players to make him great. Who cares what our senior players think, they’ve been awful, we need a refresh.
A few people have mentioned that I’ve put my neck on the line for this coach. No doubt, because I believe in the idea. I’d rather shoot for the moon than settle on something that’ll ‘might’ move us a few percentage points forward if we’re lucky. Fuck that. We’ve spent 14 years playing it safe. Our meek fanbase has celebrated ‘influencers’ that warned us to ‘be careful what you wish for.’ How did that pan out? Settling for Wenger’s ‘top 4 trophy’ didn’t move us forward. We let him sink our club into mediocrity under the guise of class, he wasted disgraceful amounts of money, built a soft boy culture, and allowed elite players to leave for nothing because his ego couldn’t handle that top names would earn more money than him. Falling into Emery’s Europa League safety blanket didn’t make things better, his Europa experience wasn’t a benefit, it was a low benchmark our players happily sank below. Freddie is a dreamboat, but we knew he wasn’t right. So let’s try something bold, let’s push the needle, let’s see what all the fuss is about with the most hyped assistant manager in world football.
Could it be any worse than what we have now? No chance… and the upside could be incredible.
… before any of that can happen, let’s see if Arsenal can seal the deal. I was asked on Love Sport yesterday what Josh K would be looking for in a new coach. My guess? Someone that can deliver on ‘be excited’, hopefully, he feels that vibe from Mikel. Let’s see what happens, a young coach with vision took LA to the Super Bowl.
P.S. I’m back in London this week… get in! Now listen to my damn podcast and rate it 5*.
Pedro Imperative Arteta comes in with a bit of his own sort though I feel like. Only helps anchor him amongst the group as alpha given the lack of managerial clout he’s working with. Be stacking it against him to hire a bunch more club guys and just say ‘you’re in charge’, needs 2/3 already embedded on his side imo. Gutted for the coach driver long term though…. Imagine how he conducts himself and the professionalism he delivers will go along way to tackling large personalities. This ‘big players wanted Carlo’ murmur is something I hope he pisses on right… Read more »
Arsenal have not criticised Ozil for making the comments, instead posting on their page on the Chinese social media site Weibo that the club ‘always adheres to the principles’ of not getting involved in politics.
…………..
Unless
1. Your name is Mesut Ozil and have a view on China
2. Your name is Bellend and feel the need to tweet ‘f*ck Boris’
or
3. Your name is Arsenal and Paul Kagame offers you £30mil to clean up his name
All hail Arteta, our new Messi 😉
Let’s hope he can get this bunch to start playing again.
Still think Carlo would have been a better choice – tried and tested, 3 CL trophies. Knows how to manage big egos.
Don’t get me wrong. Arteta probably is a good coach and future successful manager. But Arsenal right now is a different beast. Its the naughty kids in the classroom scenario. Mikel won’t be tested on his tactics, he’ll be tested on his man management skills. He’ll make enemies in the dressing room. It’s really the battle of the dressing room. Emery lost. Freddie is losing.
We should’ve kept the yoga guys.
LT, Danny I dont think its fair to judge Bellerin on the few poor performances he’s put in since coming back from the injury. I agree he was not so good during Wenger’s final year but He improved a lot under Emery and offensively he had become a good outlet until the injury hit him. We should bring a Young backup option for Bellerin who can possibly challenge him in the future. Someone like Youcef Atal or Max Aarons. Pedro I think Ornstein recently said that the lack of backroom was not the reason Arteta wad overlooked. It was just… Read more »
A big question is how Auba will respond.
His lead will influence the others.
I dont care about Luiz or Xhaka or Ozil they will all be gone.
However, Auba needs to stay and be committed.
If Arteta can make him a better striker without stepping on his ego, I think Auba will buy into that… after all… another Golden Boot in EPL and maybe Madrid come sniffing…
Arteta needs time and support. One would assume he is on the same page as Edu with regards how to play and player recruitment.. I would hope and expect him to be ruthless.
Our deficiencies are obvious, player turnover is inevitable. He must have had assurances that he can do it his way. He doesn’t need to be popular with his inherited squad, but he does need to gain their respect. They are footballers but that doesn’t make them imbeciles; they know changes have to happen after the shitfest of this season.
I am excited by what’s ahead.
Guns, it might make sense to offload PEA and reinvest the cash on defensive spine.
Versus, this team can play for a EL spot. It’s a question of man management as you say. These big players have big egos – they have to be nurtured like babies, not sure Arteta can do that.
Carlo will put Everton in top 4 contention if he gets a budget – See how fast they moved there, no mucking around. Compare that to us making 3 interviews apparently, its a joke. AFC HR had apparently lined up 12 potential candidates – they think they are running an admin office or something.
Where’s the AKB guide?
Arteta Knows Best
Jamie, the yoga guys in the West usually have some whacky version of the original.
Better get rid of them as they are fakes.
I hope they do the hire fast and announce it.
Get it over with.
January cannot come fast enough…if Arteta is in now, he can identify targets…
I certainly hope that he demanded he has a say in transfers unlike Emery
I’ll take my oat milk Latte with Arteta on it.
Who writes this? Weird.
Pedro genuine question but what do you have against managers bringing their own staff?
The thing is offloading Aubameyang to reinvest in midfield is a good idea on paper, but it means Lacazette has to step up…not convinced he can do that. Personally think he’s very overrated.
Would much rather see Lacazette sold.
Mgooner
Nagelsmann, Rose are bossing the Bundesliga with young squads with no big egos.
Brendan is doing the same in the PL.
If the Players dont jive with Arteta they have to be shown the door. The board needs to back Arteta 100% and give him all the tools to succeed. A team doesn’t need big egos for that.
CA
Laca’s full potential has still not been tapped in at Arsenal+ He has always played second fiddle to Auba bar the first 6 months when we was still acclimating to the league. We’ve seen his talent and he also always turns up against the big guys. His goalscoring record at Lyon is very good and also adds a lot in the build-up play.
He is not overrated imo possibly even underrated by neutral supporters.
When you sit 10th in the prem you have no right to express your ego.
Anyone who doesn’t understand the current situation should be ostracised from the squad.
Wasi
He should have no problem stepping up and carrying the team as Aubameyang has then if Aubameyang gets his wish and leaves.
Very overrated player in my opinion. Average goal scorer, dawdles on the ball and blows very hot and cold. Very Anelka like attitude as well I think.
CA accept your concerns about keeping Laca and selling PEA but feel if the price is right, we sell the older player and try and get value with the cash. Lacazette may benefit from being the first choice CF and have two widemen either side.
Let”s see what Arteta thinks!
Pedro and Mike Arthur sitting on a tree K I S S I N G🎤
If we can get 100m for both Laca and Auba we should take it.
Another 50m from around the squad we have a proper rebuild on our hands.
150m would see us a new CF and change for either CDM or CB.
We should of hired Sam Allardyce.
He says he can fix our defence, has done it everywhere he has been. Remember Bolton?
Why was Sam Allardyce ignored? He has the track record.
Assuming we don’t need to be net positive this TW after the recent loss report.
Laca brings a difference to the box attack. He is a fighter and how many time have we seen him power through one or 2 defenders to get a shot off… and score.? Auba? Nah… he is more a clean shot finisher… not physical in the box whatsoever. If Arteta can get them to play well together we might be fine. My issue is with Pepe. This guys is pathetic… plays for himself… gives the ball away constantly. His moves are easy to read… He is not worth the price tag but more importantly, his skills levels need to improve.… Read more »
I don’t understand how certain players get rightfully criticized for their performances and attitude during our current struggles but players like Lacazette get a pass. It’s a joke. Excuses for his poor goalscoring return and his mythical hold up play still gets mentioned regularly despite him playing poorly for the last couple months. He’s a stroppy midget as well. Bit of fairness wouldn’t go amiss Ozil and Xhaka get criticized for taking being subbed badly while Lacazette gets a pass. Can we just sell him to Sevilla and be done with it
@ Wasi
Can disagree – we had no big egos for 10 years and were on top for on each occasion. 🙂
Mgooner, because he’s a grade A dinosaur with a walrus head.
We’re shit right now but not that shit, Sami Allardici Jeez! We really would be a laughing stock.
‘What can he really say to Ozil. Smh. Intl.Caps, cups, trophies, medals, leagues, elite clubs. What the fuck can Arteta tell him? This is a disastrous appointment’ Arteta: Hey Mesut, I think you should work more for the team so we could win some major titles. Ozil: You remember my work in Brazil 2014? That reminds me, you were still an active footballer back then, why weren’t you in Brazil? Your country didn’t trust you? Your country never trusted you anyway. ****Ozil walks off frog eyed, croaking happily like a toad. Arteta cries after him…….’But Ozil you no longer have… Read more »
So it’s a ‘no’ from Marko for Lacazette.Let”s see if our next coach agrees with you.
The board should back him with all the tools…
And some money for a change – We are talking about a major chnage in squad here. Our only forte is the forward line and that too seems shaky as players want out.
If Laca and Auba leave, we will need at least half a billion to become top 4 contenders again. Unless we can find Wenger’s younger brother.
SamesongDecember 17, 2019 16:41:05
Joe Please stick around for awhile this time your sin bins like Diaby footballing career 😆
I’ve actually been a free man. Pedro pardoned me ages ago. Just haven’t been on here
Is Wenger’s brother lost?
Marko
Agreed, Lacazette has been off colour of late but to compare him to Ozil is just plain crazy.
How have all Fergie‘S assistant’s made out?
Or Jose’s
Or pep’s other #2s??
Serious question
CA Laca very much looks like a confidence player. When he is firing his overall play is also very good as compared to when he is having a drought. And knowing that he will always be second fiddle to Auba surely affects his confidence even if they are bros. If Madrid come in for Auba with 30mil + Jovic I would be happy with the deal. Give Laca the center stage and let him show what he can do. Guns of SF If Arteta is any similar to Pep, I doubt he would ever move Auba out wide which means… Read more »
With the pussies we have in the team, we need more fighters. Laca is a stay for me unless he is pining for a move.
Auba does need to develop his game more. Not physical enough in the box… hardly wins headers on the long ball. Hell even TH was more physical than he. RVP, too.
Ade, Giroud etc.
Need to have him get stronger and better at challenging defenders. Better at having at least one or 2 moves in the box.
So it’s a ‘no’ from Marko for Lacazette.Let”s see if our next coach agrees with you.
Bob do any of the senior players deserve to be at the club? After they way they’ve performed? It’s only fair if we’re criticizing this and that player for downing tools you can’t come along and make a case for someone like Lacazette who’s been as bad as anyone. Ideally we should look at replacing all of those players who have let us down not just the ones we dislike.
Bob N16 I think you’re right. If Madrid come in with a straight £80 Million offer or £40 Million and Jovic or whatever I think we sell and I wouldn’t blame the club if we did and then landed a £40 Million or more CDM/CM. I just have reservations about Lacazette. The thing is, I suppose, if the deal was £40 Million and Jovic then Lacazette might be sold anyway to fund a CB purchase or another midfielder. He’s got one year left on his deal in the summer and the club haven’t really made noises about extending. Ljungberg bowed… Read more »
Would not be surprised is there were no changes made to the squad in January. Saying they’d like to see how the new manager does with the players we have sounds very, very Arsenal.
@Bob 16
Don’t know if he is lost but we badly need one like him atm.
Re, Sam – it depends what type of players we will have in the coming years – if we have no money and have average players, we will need an average manager who can overachieve with a limited budget – hence Sam. Pity he did not get a longer run with the England team.
@ Joe, there was that Portugese chap who went on to manage Real Madrid – he was highly rated by Fergie.
Wow ! knives out against Arteta from some even before his appointment.
Jose was Bobby Robson’s assistant …he didn’t do too bad did he.
Would not be surprised is there were no changes made to the squad in January. Saying they’d like to see how the new manager does with the players we have sounds very, very Arsenal.
Well that’d be stupid considering everything that’s gone on despite people thinking it’s top 4 quality we need signings in January.
TR7
Do t worry, that’s a good sign , it’s only the know nothing’s and they have got it wrong time and time again and will probably get it wrong again.
Because that is what they do.
TR7
As their should be.
options based on what is in front of us.
Arsenal are at absolute mess. And to expect Arteta to fix it in the hardest league on the world is laughable
We are meant to be a top team. We need a top level manager to right this ship.
It’ll be interesting to see what Pedro says after 15 matches
Remember he was ripping emery even as he went 21 undefeated.
And says the players are there for a top 4 finish.
Arteta should win is Europa as well I’m assuming. Because he’s so special sauce
Pierre.
How many times did you get it wrong about wenger.
Glass houses and all that
Well that’d be stupid considering everything that’s gone on
Something being stupid has never stopped us before. It was stupid to leave Freddie in the lurch with no coaches but it happened. It was stupid to carry two strikers that can’t really play with each other for two seasons but it happened. Pinning your hopes on the club doing something because it would be stupid otherwise is an easy path toward disappointment.
*there
The PR machine at AFC just beggars belief.
What exactly are the perceptions of these people? Do they not realise the consequences of their inept decision making and their total lack of business acumen when it comes to promoting the clubs image.
Ever since we left Highbury this problem has intensified. The total lack of transparency is frustrating enough but the neglect and patronising treatment of the fanbase goes beyond a joke.
As I’ve said on here before, it’s as if we’ve got the Abbeyfield Care Home committee overseeing the clubs operations.
The worst run club in Football.
I hope Arteta succeeds or this place will be a ghost town due to posters not wanting to admit they were wrong.
Graham
Agreed. We are a banter club.
Joe Which top managers are available or willing to take over at Arsenal ? Ancellotti is a past his sell by date manager who needs a well settled team to perform. Allegri plays dour football, can’t speak English and is perhaps not even interested in the Arsenal job. Poch was and still is my first choice but looks like he is holding out for Bayern/United/Real. There are some exciting names such as Rodgers, Wilder, Ten Hag, Rose etc. Rodgers has signed a big contract at Leicester. Ten Hag is already working at a historically big club. Rose probably doesn’t know… Read more »
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Arteta prefers Laca ahead of Auba and ESR ahead of Ozil.
No get rid of Auba And Laca/ Ozil / Bellerin there lies your trouble 100%
There is a quick fix, it’s called spending a shitload of money. But since that’s not an option, we prop up the guy with nice hair.
I don’t see how it gets worse under Arteta though. Could be wrong of course but hard to see how it gets worse than this.
Don’t forget Graham Potter.
Has got Brighton playing really great football in just a few months.
Of course, he’s not saucy enough for Arsenal.
I’m intrigued how Arteta is going to tackle our defending, which when you consider Man City are the ‘least tackling side’ in the league it could be a real cultural shift for the club.
Confident he’ll be much better versed in teaching us how to defend territories and work space than anything we’ve seen for half a decade. Could be a really exciting thing to witness the evolution of the club from the ground up.
What’s the rush having a Sunday night meeting and then taking days to appoint him.
Somethings not right.
Interesting reading to say the least Gentlebris is pissed off and disgusted Marko is Marko Jamie wants fairness (kind of with you on that) will be amusing to read the excuses though now the saucy one is in charge Joe is angry for angry sake Imagine getting yourself all worked up over something that’s meant to bring you joy. I for one am excited. We will know the true snakes in the squad soon enough, the wasters and idlers who are just here because Arsenal boosts their sorry profiles and have an avalanche of fans willing to blame anyone but… Read more »
As Ishola said if Arteta or for that matter any manager can improve our off the ball play, it will significantly improve us. Against City in the first half, except Martinelli not a single Arsenal player was working hard off the ball. Bar a few games, our off the ball play was poor even under Emery. One of the reasons behind demise of Arsene was our poor off the ball play. When Wenger had great attacking teams, poor off the ball play was compensated for by great ballers in attack but as quality of our attack worsened over the years,… Read more »
Marko is Marko
What’s that supposed to mean. I’m not waxing his pole and sceptical as hell big whoop. He comes in and actually does a good job that’s one thing he replaces Ozil and Xhaka in the team I’ll be firmly on board but as of now I have absolutely nothing to get excited about he’s done fuck all to get excited about.
TR7 It’s difficult to press as a team if your centre backs are too deep as Arsenal have gee this season. A good pressing side defend on the front foot and take risks, we don’t. It has been even more noticable this season with Luiz at the back, we have defended deeper and deeper. This will of course leave too big an area for the midfield to cover and gaps will appear all over the pitch. I’m hoping Arteta will implement a positive way of playing instead of this negative style we have been watching for the last 18 months.… Read more »
Sam Fagbemi is apparently joining Arsenal as well.
A scout from City.
That, if true, suggests Arteta has his own players lined up to sign.
Pierre
Liverpool and City lead the league in fouling to stop counter attacks.
When they lose the ball high up, they foul to avoid the fast counter.
What do we do?
Watch the player dribble 50 yards into our box and send 3 players to chase him.
He passes to the runner and then its over!
He’s only 25 and is their leading recruitment specialist. City do not want to see him go.
Sounds a good move.
This is the kind of thing Arsenal need to do in terms of PR. Now we need the ‘war chest’ leak and ‘squad overhaul’ leak to calm some nerves.
City going to ask a lot of $$$ for both coach and scout to join us
Pierre,
The tactical fouling from Man C to stop counterattacks early was a very, very effective tactic.
You do need disciplined players who will take a yellow card for the team but not follow it up with another stupid yellow for nothing in particular or after a sudden rush of blood to the head.
Sam Fagbemi is 25 and a youth scout though. Guarantee of more power/influence is how we’re getting him apparently. Christ if Emery pulled something like that you can imagine the headline. Not necessarily a bad thing though he looks like a Morrow replacement
‘Jose was Bobby Robson’s assistant …he didn’t do too bad did he.’
If Jose had been thrown into a big chaos in a big club for his first gig, you would have had to google Jose Mourinho today to discover he once worked in football.
“For me off the ball play is mostly a tactical and managerial thing, not overly reliant on player’s quality. ” I was saying that for a few days. Manure did that very well against MC. You need a team structure and every player knows exactly where he is supposed to be. I remember a few posters defended the high press. We don’t have the players to do it effectively. The result is, our midfield became an open book. Players were scattered all over the place. The defense was over powered. The team needs to defend with 10 men. All forwards… Read more »
Phil Antwi of wolves is also being linked. Not sure these are connected to Arteta though these are names that have popped up when Morrow and a few others got binned back in October November
Apparently, Sam Fagbemi used to work at Arsenal before he moved to City.
Marko
‘ Christ if Emery pulled something like that you can imagine the headline. Not necessarily a bad thing though he looks like a Morrow replacement’
What would it be? Why would improving the back room staff be viewed as a bad thing?
CA
‘ This is the kind of thing Arsenal need to do in terms of PR. Now we need the ‘war chest’ leak and ‘squad overhaul’ leak to calm some nerves.’
What a big baby. You’ll only be calm once you get the promise of some shiny new toys?
I wanted Arteta to replace Arsene and my desire for us to get him as not waned.
Btw people who believe certain senior players at the club would give him a hard time are in for a rude shock.
Lol Martine.
“people who believe certain senior players at the club would give him a hard time are in for a rude shock.”
Amazing, he has a cristal ball, he can see the future!!
Every name we are linked with has a A or a I on the end.
Fag bemi up.
Dortmund Leipzig on
Any other information about the team Arteta is planning to assemble for Arsenal? This can give us a bit of an insight on how things will be done during the new manager’s term.
Pedro any news from your sources.?
Although Raul must give him autonomy to operate.
Pedro, how dare you destroy our dreams lol!
You said it was just sauce less manager.
Easy top four squad. What happened?
Jokes aside Arteta must be successful and given absolute power over players. No way Ozil Luiz etc will respect him othervise.
I hope people aren’t expecting Arteta to come in and have the exact same style as Guardiola. The dark haired man is entitled to have his own style as long as it’s effective and progressive
Arteta age is not good.
37
Luiz and others are early 30’s
its like having your older brother as your boss. You want to tell them fuck off and kick their ass.
Liverpool youngsters playing with no fear at all
As much as I’ve beaten on Ozil I’d love it if Arteta comes in and makes something of him.
As things stand, hes our best (only?) true creative midfielder.
The Pool no 68 looks to have something about him, so does this Hyland fella
Guns, I’ve managed people twice my age.
Difficult but not impossible if you have the right personality, show results and help them improve they get on board.
Age is only an issue if you have no authority.
I don’t understand where all the BS about city demanding money from Arsenal to release Arteta or a 25 year old scout.
Contracts have exits, mostly give your employer a month or so notice and you walk away. It’s no indentured servitude or something. Employees have rights too, one of which is a right to change jobs.
Can we stop trying to change the goal posts.
Arteta should not have “absolute authority” . He should own the dressing room and training ground, nothing else. He’s the head coach….remember, not the manager.
Pedro used to argue that the technical director be present everywhere and should be the one making all the big decisions off the field. It shouldn’t be any different with Arteta.
He should be allowed in with only a portmanteau. He shouldn’t be allowed to bring in a single scout, physio or assistant…that’s what Pedro argued for ages under Emery.
@ TR7 18.53
Indeed off the ball footvall is of utmist importance. I am really looking forward to witnessing MA’s approach rectifying our defence and midfield crisis. As Pep has said for attck you need innate talent, for defence you need to work your socks off.. and everything starta from defence!
And dont fall into trap guys. MA is not Pep. He has his own ideas and ambitions. He will try to implement his philosophy.
I mean it would be stupid trying to imitate Citys Pep football with these units/tools at disposal anyway.
‘As much as I’ve beaten on Ozil I’d love it if Arteta comes in and makes something of him.As things stand, hes our best (only?) true creative midfielder.’
I think this argument is over, isn’t it?
He’s a spineless pussy who doesn’t want to do any work at all.
Look at what Arteta is coming from in terms of CAMs. Players like De Bruyne and Bernardo Silva who get through massive amounts of work…to Ozil.
No more indulgence of the flange.
Diss, employers can contractually state who you join next, I’ve had clauses similar in my employment. I took a bit of advice on it when I first joined a competitor.
If City so wished they could seek compensation directly from Arteta or seek to prevent him from actually working for us for a period of time. The fee to Arsenal would effectively be a fee to release them from their contracts.
My understanding of the law is they cant stop him signing a contract with us but can make it messy.
Dissenter – Players and backroom staff usually sign fixed-term contracts, which means they can’t turn in their notice and walk away when something better comes along. They need to be released from the club, and can demand their wages for the remainder of their contract. That’s why it’s so hard to shift players/backroom staff who don’t want to be there any longer without paying up. Reciprocally, players can’t just hand in a month’s notice and walk away, or you’d have players walking withing the first 6 months of their transfer for free. In the States, players can be ‘traded’ to… Read more »
Unfortunately I think your spot on Cesc!
Unai
“Diss, employers can contractually state who you join next”
They can state that you can’t join a competitor within a timescale but under European Law there are restrictions that it has to be reasonable otherwise it’s restraint of trade. The normal course of action is for someone to be put on gardening leave.
Where this is an unusual one is I’ve never heard of this happening with an Ass Manager.
I think playing and backroom contracts are different.
Could be totally wrong but sure with a player the club owns effectively the rights for the player to play.
Wasnt that what all the Tevez fuss was about?
Unai –
Yeah, probably. At a minimum, I don’t think backroom staff can hand it any sort of notice and leave for another club without the new club compensating the old club with the remainder of the staff member’s salary.
I assume clubs can protect themselves from having their best coaches/scouts poached by offering long-term, well-paid contracts. Perhaps the staff can buy themselves out of their contracts? X annual salary times Y remaining years of their contract and they can leave?
Again, not sure this is how it works..
Anyone watching Dortmund vs Leipzig? Insane match, and the young talent on show is amazing.
Sancho is a worldie